The eighth serial RTO of the Buyan-M project went to sea trials

Small rocket ship "Graivoron" of project 21631 "Buyan-M" has begun factory sea trials, having entered the Black Sea for the first time. The press service of the Black Sea fleet.

RTO "Grayvoron" arrived from Zelenodolsk to Novorossiysk at the delivery base in early August this year to undergo running and state tests. According to their results, the ship will join the 41st Sevastopol Order of Nakhimov brigade of missile boats by the end of this year. The brigade includes an MRK division and a tactical group of missile boats. The crew for the ship has already been prepared.

During the implementation of the plan of factory sea trials on the ship, the operation of power plants, steering gear, auxiliary mechanisms, communications, navigation and other systems of ship equipment is checked, as well as the seaworthiness of the ship.

- said in a statement.

The ninth in the series and the eighth serial after the lead ship, the Graivoron MRK was laid down in Zelenodolsk by order of the Russian Navy on April 10, 2015, named after the city of Graivoron in the Belgorod region of Russia.

RTOs of project 21631 "Buyan-M" are multipurpose ships of the "river-sea" type, equipped with modern weapons, including eight high-precision cruise missiles "Caliber". Displacement - 949 tons with a length of 75 meters and a width of 11 meters. The maximum speed is 25 knots. Cruising range - 2500 miles, autonomy - 10 days. The crew is 52 people. Installed jet propulsion.

Comments

[Doccor18]

Happy and long service to the ship!

[silverwolf88]

seven feet under the keel and good service to the ship and its crew ...

[maktub]

Disposable launch pad

[Observer2014]

Quote: maktub

Disposable launch pad

Well, if you philosophize, and in terms of the Third World War, then yes. And what will not be disposable?

[Doccor18]

Let the Buyans and Karakurt build at least, otherwise the pennant composition of the fleet in 15 years will "dry up" to 1 squadron ...

[Observer2014]

Quote: Doccor18

Let the Buyans and Karakurt build at least, otherwise the pennant composition of the fleet in 15 years will "dry up" to 1 squadron ...

And don't talk. For example, I don't want to talk about this anymore.

[Escobar]

Karakurt is cheaper, they have normal air defense (which have "shell") + the weapon control system allows you to strike at ships. Conclusion, do not lay more brawlers as a product with a lower price / performance ratio

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Eskobar

Karakurt is cheaper, they have normal air defense (which have a "shell") + weapons control system allows you to strike at ships

Sure. Do not forget, Buyans are a river-sea ... Well, if something happens - the Baltic and the Caspian ... He has his own tasks. With the range of Calibers, he doesn't care where to shoot from. Maybe shoot from the Volga and Ladoga. And what kind of air defense does he have from these areas?

[Escobar]

What are his tasks, to smack on ISIS?

[Cottodraton]

It is also possible in the countries of Eastern and Western Europe included in the block ...

[alexmach]

He has his own tasks

No, comrade is right. Their production would be worth curtailing, where are so many of them on the Volga and the Caspian? And concentrating on Karakurt .. Preferably on the "fat" version with PLO.

[maktub]

Do you think that MANPADS are enough to protect against aircraft or anti-aircraft missiles?
Karakurt seems more reliable in this regard

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: maktub

Do you think that MANPADS are enough to protect against aircraft or anti-aircraft missiles?
Karakurt seems more reliable in this regard

The ship's air defense is of course not about anything, but in fairness I must say that besides MANPADS there is one more Duet

[tralflot1832]

Which duet is under 10 thousand rounds per minute?

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: tralflot1832

Which duet is under 10 thousand rounds per minute?

I don't remember exactly, but a lot ... metal cutting, in short

[Pechkin]

Yes, this is a duet.

Caliber guns - 30 mm

Installation weight:
- without ammunition and spare parts - 2500 kg (including AK-630M-2)
- with 1000 rounds of ammunition, without spare parts - 3307 kg
- with full ammunition (4000 wipes) - 6519 kg
- with full ammunition (4000 wedges) with radar - 11819 kg

Vertical guidance angles - from -25 to +90 degrees
Horizontal pointing angles - + -180 degrees

Target range:
- for sea targets - 5000 m
- for air targets - 4000 m
Initial speed - 880-900 m / s
Rate of fire:
- one machine gun - 4000-5000 rds / min
- two machines - 8000-10000 rds / min

Installation ammunition - 4000 rounds

[tralflot1832]

I saw AK 630 in action on Kildin, it was terribly beautiful, but this is something unimaginable, just fantastic.

[smart ass]

Ie ammunition should be enough for a minute of battle?

[Pechkin]

For example, I have ak-74 rate of fire
600-rounds / min. One magazine in it and 8 spare, 270 rounds. According to yours, I have a bk for 30 seconds of combat. But this is not the case here either. And this is the ammunition load of the installation. Here is a diagram of the ak-630.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Clever man

Ie ammunition should be enough for a minute of battle?

Do you think that when firing, they will press the trigger and will not release it until all the ammunition runs out?

[Brylevsky]

Ie ammunition should be enough for a minute of battle?

No.
1) One AO-18 assault rifle shoots, the ammunition load is 2000 rounds, the technical rate of fire is about 5000 rds / min, => 2000/5000 = 0,4 minutes, => 0,4 minutes. X 60 = 24 s. => that in 24 seconds one machine gun will fire its ammunition load of 2000 rounds;
2) Two machine guns are firing simultaneously ("duet", after all), from this it follows that after 24 seconds both will empty their cellars;
3) Shoot alternately, => 24 s. + 24 p. = 48 s.
Total, longest firing time = 48 s.
But!
There is such a thing as "firing mode". For the AO-18 assault rifle, it is as follows: "long" burst (1 second of firing), then 15 seconds for cooling the barrel block; "short" burst (0,5 seconds), then cooling for 7 seconds. The duration of firing is set with a toggle switch in the central firing station. From the above, it follows that the commander of the BCH-2, based on the tactical situation, can combine the rate of fire as needed, + to this there are guidelines - "Rules of Service", which directly prescribe the required mode of fire for a specific purpose. But I am not an artilleryman, so I cannot say, for example, what mode of fire will be for a typical target, such as "Anti-ship missile". Simultaneous shooting, I suppose. To increase the likelihood ...

[Escobar]

And what about fire control with this very duo?

[Pechkin]

There is the OMS Bagheera.

[Ros 56]

You probably can imagine that the poor fellow MRK is walking or standing alone and fights off the foe with the last of his strength. Well, not the times of the Second World War, now on the street, as they say, a network-centric war is planned, but these are completely different possibilities.

[strannik1985]

Of course not, but objectively, at the moment neither the one nor the other fleet is needed. The INF Treaty has been canceled, and now missile brigades with 9M729 can be deployed.

[Pechkin]

Well, at the back, the duo is flexible in front. This is a reusable launcher for the caliber and with the seaworthiness of the river-sea. And the air defense, respectively, for minimal self-defense for inexpensive. Like a lattice screen on armored vehicles, it seems there is, and it seems, and the effectiveness is small. But let it be.

[Escobar]

Only these vessels are expensive

[maktub]

Question; -Recently read that Buyan is highly dependent on external target designation?

[Pechkin]

Well, for the use of artillery (A-190) and anti-aircraft (duet) weapons, you do not need any external target designation. For bending too. If you use calibers on the ground, then load the target coordinates into missiles is not a problem. for example, a corvette of the type Ada among the Turks) then yes. It will not interfere)

[Grits]

Quote: maktub

Karakurt in this regard seems more reliable

I think we should stop producing Buyans and focus on Karakurt. After the US left the INF Treaty, they lost their relevance. Namely - as a platform for strike with cruise missiles for 2 and a half thousand km. from the safe Caspian Sea or the river network within the country. Now Calibers are cheaper and easier to install on Kamaz, BAZs and ride around the country, threatening the enemy more covertly and more quickly. But the Karakurt with its increased seaworthiness and air defense for the protection of coastal zones are more suitable than Buyany.

[kit88]

To listen to you, the navy doesn't need anything at all.
Strictly aircraft carrier battleships probably need to be built - eight in one so that bulo. And the air defense, and the PLO, there are about fifty Volcanoes and the Tsar cannon on the forecastle.

[maktub]

Or maybe instead of two "scooters" one "bike" with normal air defense is better?

[Interlocutor]

Or maybe instead of two "scooters" one "bike" with normal air defense is better?

Or maybe two scooters and a bicycle?

[maktub]

At will, how long lave will be enough

[maktub]

Wow minuses poured! Maktub

[Pavel57]

Quote: maktub

Disposable launch pad

We have fired back more than once, so it’s definitely not a one-off.

[maktub]

So no one answered
According to the forecasts of futurologists in the 21st of WW3

[Pavel57]

Quote: strannik1985

Of course not, but objectively, at the moment neither the one nor the other fleet is needed. The INF Treaty has been canceled, and now missile brigades with 9M729 can be deployed.

The missile brigades still need to be deployed. And here everything is already adjusted. And the enemy is not very annoying. And if you unleash the INF Treaty, there will be a sea of ​​screams.

[strannik1985]

The missile brigades still need to be deployed.

The brigades have long been deployed, in one RBR - 24 missile launchers, 24 on TZM, one "Buyan-M" or "Karakurt" - 8 missiles. The agreement has already been terminated, and on the initiative of the United States (they are not satisfied with the Chinese MRBM).
Objectively, the fleet needs minesweepers, corvettes / helicopters / PLO aircraft, missile-carrying aircraft, and many other things, but not MRKs with missiles for strikes against land targets.

[tralflot1832]

We have a lot of rivers in the European part of Russia connected by canals under Stalin. I don’t want to drive ships from north to south. Cool we bypassed the ban on the RMSD, this infuriates partners. shifts must be riveted at the factory.

[iouris]

Kazan will become the main base of the fleet.

[tralflot1832]

There are still adversaries, not a single thing worried about the Petrel, as if Kazan will be there.

[DrEng527]

would increase by 300t, put GAS and TA for PLO, Dagger / Armor - it would turn out to be a normal corvette ...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

It was founded when the INF Treaty was in operation. So what now? Throw it out? On pins and needles? Let him serve. And it is now necessary to build corvettes and frigates.

[NF68]

It seems like a trifle, but a pleasant trifle.

[Alvis07]

If again with Chinese engines, it will be a hassle.

[Whirlwind]

Due to the shallow draft and water cannons, it can cross the inland waterways without risk to all the inland seas of Russia, strengthening operational connections, at the right time, in the right place.
Seven feet under the keel !

[cat Rusich]

Eugene,

Quote: Whirlwind

at the right time, in the right place.

Volga in summer ... in the Gorodets area you can stand for days and wait in line - because of the low level of the river.

Volga in winter ...

[Whirlwind]

If there is no water in the Volga, then they drank ... they.
You should drink less.
Actually, there was a reason to clean the Volga and remove all the exposed driftwood and trash from the riverbed.
And "Buyan" only brawl in big water.

[Scharnhorst]

The Europeans themselves will ask for the return of the INF Treaty. Under Gorbachev, the country had to destroy about 2000 missiles and ground launchers against about 900 American ones. Now, if the missiles are banned (which I personally doubt), the karakurt and brawlers will remain with a different ammunition load. The Americans will not agree to cut their destroyers! Though...

[seregin-s1]

Great ship! Long and fruitful service! And that everyone rested in calibers? Universal launcher. The Black Sea upstarts are enough to enforce peace. 1234 and 1241 are not eternal.

[lvov_aleksey]

7 feet under keel

[Jacket in stock]

It took five years to build the boat.
Five years!!!
During this time, it no longer became relevant, because it was just a launcher for calibers, no longer suitable for anything like a ship ..
There could be at least some benefit from Karakurt, but on the contrary, the construction program is being cut.
Unclear.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Oh, what a handsome this Buyan-M turned out, Karakurt does not look that way, although of course his seaworthiness is better, but somehow there is no severity in the contours of Buyan.