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Sell ​​Lenin, or Return to the 1990s

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The world has entered a decisive stage of global changes. Many well-established dogmas and views on some things are questioned today. For example, the stability and inviolability of countries that declare democracy as a system of their own state structure. In the context of global changes in the world, it turned out that everything that was spoken of as the achievements of mankind is just another way to establish the power of one group of people over another.


In the same way, the legend of the omnipotence of the market and market relations as a guarantee of the rapid development of the economy and science collapsed. At the first serious challenge, I mean the coronavirus, it turned out that “the best in the world”, “the standard for everyone else” and other beautiful slogans that are full of advertising brochures of Western companies are just a well-conducted PR campaign. And the countries that rushed headlong to build these very relations at home are not Eden today.

Even the myth of the most powerful army in the world, which consists of the most trained soldiers and officers, has been questioned. Not so long ago, even the youngest readers remembered the main argument in the debate about the strength of the armies of the world was the argument about the cost of equipping, arming and maintaining the army. They say, where is everyone else, when the Americans spend only on the maintenance of army dry closets ...

Remember how the most powerful army in the world behaved in the conflict with the DPRK? Do you remember the attacks by the famous and unsurpassed Tomahawks at the positions of the Syrian army? Once the essence of the "most powerful army in the world" was outlined by a German general (Nikolai Gritsenko) in a dialogue with Stirlitz (Vyacheslav Tikhonov), which took place on a train to Bern.

These boobs will be destroyed by their own equipment, they think that the war can be won only by bombing. They will build up their technical power and choke on it. She will decompose them like rust. They will decide that they can do anything.

And "This is for you guys!" from Major Roman Filippov, remember? Do you remember the machine gunner Tasbolat Ibrashev, who stopped the Georgian army convoy in South Ossetia? We are quite calm about such feats. It's kind of like the norm for a soldier. Meanwhile, it is this factor, the dedication and courage of the soldiers and officers of the Russian Federation, is considered in the United States as one of the main ones.

Russia's stability must be undermined at any cost


Russia today is an enemy for the United States. An enemy to fight! Not yet open, in other ways, but to fight and win. Moreover, the Americans do not hide this and quite openly call us this way in official documents. Hence the events that take place at our borders. Ukraine, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Belarus, the Caspian and Black seas ...

You don't have to be an expert not to understand that all these hotbeds of tension have the same purpose. It is necessary to force the Russians to transfer military units and formations from one dangerous sector to another, and ultimately force them to act “according to the old patterns”, to follow the same path as the USSR. The goal is an arms race and the decline of the Russian economy.

In theory, everything looks quite achievable. We are bound by agreements with our neighbors and simply cannot but react to changes in the situation in their countries. Even the severance of relations with the Kremlin, as was done in Ukraine, did not change the situation in any way from the point of view of Washington.

Ukraine was supposed to become a detonator of a public explosion in Russia and Belarus, but, on the contrary, became a factor in strengthening the unity of the people in both states. That is why the operation in Belarus failed. Therefore, in the situation with Alexei Navalny, a completely opposite effect is observed. Instead of "general outrage" by the government's actions, the Russians rallied. And instead of supporting Navalny, there is an outflow of his supporters in society.

I get the impression that the experts on contemporary Russia in the United States have stopped in time. Somewhere in the late 80s - early 90s of the last century. Simply because such operations might well have worked just then. Much has changed today. The country's stability has been achieved not so much by slogans and propaganda, but by the fact that most people have something that they do not want to lose. That is why they do not understand in the West why only young people and a few “old people” on the salary discuss their stuffing.

Hence the return to the old plans for the collapse of the USSR. Returning to old problems. Russia needs to be shaken, it needs to be shaken, society needs to be destabilized. At any cost.

Let's return to the problem of Lenin's body ...


Remember the discussions that tore up our society in the 90s? One of the topics then was the burial of the body of the leader of the world proletariat. Almost all prominent politicians were noted in the debates on this issue then. Moreover, an attempt was even made to replace the "banner". Lenin was replaced by Emperor Nicholas II. Even the church took part in this struggle.

It all ended quite simply. For those who continued and continues to believe in the communist ideal society, and the communist ideas are a means of achieving heaven on earth, Lenin remained, there was a mausoleum, there was a necropolis near the Kremlin wall and in the wall. Those who hated communism began to revere a new martyr - the sacrifice of the communists of Emperor Nicholas. For the majority, however, this issue was closed by itself when the media stopped artificially supporting it.

And now the same idea has been abandoned again, but in a slightly new package. American artist David Datuna offered to buy out Lenin's body and transport it to the United States. Moreover, Datuna even suggested that American technology could "revive" the leader. In principle, for all the idiocy of this assumption, the idea was supposed to stir up Russian society.

It should be because, according to opinion polls, for example, by the Levada Center, Russian society today treats the burial of the body “in no way”. The number of those who are for burial and those who are against is approximately equal. At the same time, a fairly significant number of respondents do not care about this question.

If you think about it, then this idea is from the same series, from the 90s. Yesterday, in conversations with neighbors and acquaintances, I specifically asked a simple question: how old would Lenin be today? The results are most revealing. From “yes go with that Lenin” from your neighbor in the garage to “who is Lenin” from a schoolboy in the yard.

It is clear that these people will not argue among themselves, grab each other by the breasts and spit saliva. It is also clear that there are those that will be. Their number is decreasing, but they are. And there are those who even now will run to dig Lenin's grave. But the question itself is not interesting to society. It is impossible to split society with this.

The air smells ...


More and more often in the speeches of politicians from different countries the theme of a future war is heard. Moreover, the Americans are actively developing the theme of "arrogant Putin who ...", we are talking about NATO and some European countries that are crawling to our borders. Europeans generally change their rhetoric all the time. From "peace, friendship, chewing gum" to "Russians are already coming." And only China makes a smart face and keeps quiet. At the same time he actively plays “under the carpet”.

It's time to write a classic song "the air smells like a thunderstorm." But for some reason I don't want to. I can smell a completely different smell in the air. The air smells like ... excrement. The very waste of human life. Believe me, in my life I have learned to distinguish between the smell of ozone and the smell of a public toilet.

There is a danger of the outbreak of hostilities. The human factor has not been canceled and will not be canceled. Fear has big eyes. Someone somewhere can press the wrong button. According to the generally accepted norms that are instilled in us by our media, Americans - American, Europeans - European and so on, in the event of a strike on a country, there will be a response not only from that country, but also from its allies.

Axiom? Not at all. We quickly forget facts. Let me remind you of a Russian plane shot down by the Turks. And ... How did all these agreements and commitments work? No way! Today, in connection with some changes in the doctrine of Russia, the situation will be somewhat different. Attack, response with the destruction of the army and infrastructure of the attackers and diplomatic "showdown" with all its allies. Well, and lamentations about the victims ... Fear perfectly sobering up any aggressor.

Why all this and when will ebb tide follow


I will try to be "original". America is to blame for everything! I really think so. Americans are well aware of the crisis in their own society. And they act with proven methods. Nothing unites a nation like an external enemy. Donald Trump is also solving his own task of being re-elected for a second term. Wants to be the new Roosevelt.

Europe? Here, too, everything is clear. Any herd, flock, herd goes where the shepherd, shepherd or herder drives it. Even when there is a cow with a temper in the herd. The Europeans themselves are already beginning to ask their governments about the expediency of certain actions. I don't even want to write about the effectiveness of the sanctions.

In theory, the ebb tide should begin immediately after the US presidential election. This is the line beyond which must come peace from victory or defeat. But this is only in theory. In practice, the situation is somewhat different.

Many politicians and experts remember Vladimir Putin's speech in Munich on February 10, 2007. Its "continuation" at the Valdai Forum on October 24, 2014 is also remembered. I see no sense in repeating the essence of the thoughts expressed by the Russian president. Just to remind you of the reaction of world leaders. Almost everyone then really thought about many of the things mentioned.

Today, when European and world politics are in full swing, the leaders of most countries are hiding for some reason. There are no loud statements, no serious decisions, there are not even any more or less noticeable actions. Everyone suddenly became concerned about the internal problems of their countries. And why?

The answer was given by the Russian Foreign Ministry. Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova commented on the situation. From 22 to 29 September, the 75th session of the UN General Assembly will be held in New York. Due to the situation with the coronavirus in the United States, the leaders of the countries will not go in person. But they will speak at the session via videoconference. Among 119 leaders of countries and 54 heads of government, there is also Putin's speech.

It seems to me that today the world is waiting for this very speech. What will the Russian president say about the situation in the world? What ways out of the crisis will he suggest? Ultimately, it will be either surrender to the mercy of the winners, which even the most ardent opponents of Russia do not expect from Putin, or it will be a warning to "hooligans" about responsibility in the event of a hot phase of relations.

Very few people know the answer to this question. And that is only because this speech has already been recorded and sent to the organizers of the UN General Assembly session. It won't be long to wait. Vladimir Putin's speech will be delivered on the first day of the session, September 22.
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  1. Comrade
    Comrade 20 September 2020 05: 30
    13
    American artist David Datuna offered to buy out Lenin's body and transport it to the United States.

    I remember that Yeltsin took it out of museums and for a penny sold the Americans Yuri Gagarin's spacesuit and the La-5 fighter, on which the most effective fighter pilot of the anti-Hitler coalition I. Kozhedub fought.
    Probably, the Yankees think that Russia remained forever in the 90s ..
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 20 September 2020 06: 42
      22
      Quote: Comrade

      I remember that Yeltsin took it out of museums and for a penny sold the Americans Yuri Gagarin's spacesuit and the La-5 fighter, on which the most effective fighter pilot of the anti-Hitler coalition I. Kozhedub fought.

      The fact that Yeltsin was in many ways not smarter than Khrushchev, and not more principled than Gorbachev, I do not even dispute.

      And his actions were simply shocking and incomparable with the activities of the head of state.

      But La-7 Kozheduba ... This is too much your lies, Comrade.

      The exhibited La-7 fighter is kept in the Central Aviation Museum in Monin; at the front it belonged to I.N. Kozhedub, who shot down 62 enemy planes, namely on it he shot down the last 17 planes. V. Frunze in July 1960.
      According to the guides, everything is native to him, except for the chassis.






      1. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 20 September 2020 08: 46
        10
        Quote: Insurgent
        This is an overkill of your lies, Comrade

        So then La-7, and then La-5 ... Or do you think Kozhedub flew the whole war on the same plane ...
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 20 September 2020 08: 55
          13
          Quote: AllXVahhaB
          So then La-7, and then La-5 ... Or do you think Kozhedub flew the whole war on the same plane ...

          No, of course not one.

          But nuance in the fact that the CMA Monino was, and is kept exclusively the last La-7 on which the ace flew.
          AND NO OTHER (others simply have not survived).
          1. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 20 September 2020 09: 39
            -2
            Quote: Insurgent
            No, of course not one.

            But the nuance is that Monino was stored in the TsMA, and only the last La-7 on which the ace flew is kept.
            AND NO OTHER (others simply have not survived).

            Well, it means they sold some kind of La-5, which was issued for Kozhedubovsky ...
            1. Civil
              Civil 20 September 2020 16: 30
              -8
              In principle, this is so, until the Great Leader is in power and the army with the National Guard has not disintegrated, cause protests and drown them in blood, disperse and show the entire population who has power and to whom it belongs by right of power. It is quite logical, I would do that too.
              1. bk0010
                bk0010 20 September 2020 17: 01
                +5
                And where did you get the idea that the National Guard will win? Imagine that a full-fledged city guerrilla has begun in Moscow. Officials and deputies will be exterminated within a couple of months (this is not the 19th century, when Narodnaya Volya exterminated the governors one by one, now they will immediately burn them out with barvihs). And the Rosguards will protect themselves and their families. And he will not be able to do anything: the usual tactics of neutralizing the leaders are not suitable, the network structures are not very susceptible to it. Blood is such a thing, both sides can pour it.
                1. Civil
                  Civil 21 September 2020 08: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: bk0010
                  And where did you get the idea that the National Guard will win? Imagine that a full-fledged city guerrilla has begun in Moscow. Officials and deputies will be exterminated within a couple of months (this is not the 19th century, when Narodnaya Volya exterminated the governors one by one, now they will immediately burn them out with barvihs). And the Rosguards will protect themselves and their families. And he will not be able to do anything: the usual tactics of neutralizing the leaders are not suitable, the network structures are not very susceptible to it. Blood is such a thing, both sides can pour it.

                  There are also Taman and Kantemirovsk Guards divisions, they will wind their guts on the trucks, and they have new trucks, since the divisions are financed in the first category, as well as the personnel.
                  In Russia, only the army decides the issue of changing the political system.
                  1. bk0010
                    bk0010 21 September 2020 19: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Civil
                    In Russia, only the army decides the issue of changing the political system.
                    Yes? When was the last time? Under Catherine? And besides, how will the Kantemirovsk division find whose guts to shake? Moreover, where did you get the idea that she will shake the guts of the one she is pointed at? Rosgvardia was created precisely because they are not sure that the army will be on the side of the government.
                  2. antivirus
                    antivirus 24 September 2020 09: 47
                    0
                    The army influences as a political force, not as a military force for assassination and suppression.
                    EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THE WORDS WITH WHICH THE MOTHER-DOYARKA OR THE BLOGER SEND THE SONS TO TAMAN-KANTEMIROVSKAYA.
                    Follow the order passively (leave the boxes) and show initiative - different worldviews and other education (see it is necessary 15-20 years ago)
                2. AllXVahhaB
                  AllXVahhaB 22 September 2020 14: 51
                  0
                  Quote: bk0010
                  And where did you get the idea that the National Guard will win? Imagine that a full-fledged city guerrilla has begun in Moscow. Officials and deputies will be exterminated within a couple of months (this is not the 19th century, when Narodnaya Volya exterminated the governors one by one, now they will immediately burn them out with barvihs). And the Rosguards will protect themselves and their families. And he will not be able to do anything: the usual tactics of neutralizing the leaders are not suitable, the network structures are not very susceptible to it. Blood is such a thing, both sides can pour it.

                  The fact of the matter is that now is not the 19th century, when, in principle, both the army and the rebels were armed in the same way ...
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 20 September 2020 07: 27
      51
      The article is a set of horror stories of a fearful zaputinets. The whole set of their phobias. Here you are in the 90s, as in Ukraine, and the almighty Navalny (which I don’t understand so much about him!), And evil America (only which, for some reason, our elite loves very much). And the conclusion is that it is necessary to unite with zero!

      ... Let me remind you of a Russian plane shot down by the Turks. And ... How did all these agreements and commitments work? No way!

      And what, did Russia answer the Turks for the downed plane? The NATO bloc, according to the author, should have started a war with Russia for the refusal of Turkish tomatoes?

      . today the world is waiting for this very speech... What will the Russian president say about the situation in the world? What ways out of the crisis will he suggest?

      Yah?! So straight and waiting?
      The Russian president would have brought his country out of the crisis, and not distributed advice to others!
      Although he loves advice, it's not like raising the economy and paying normal (by world standards) salaries and pensions to people.
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 20 September 2020 09: 32
        28
        our main enemy is not the United States or Navalny, but corruption and yelling about the United States and so on distract from the main enemy .. why? that's the question ..
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 20 September 2020 14: 27
          +8
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          while corruption and yelling

          correct "All to fight corruption!" the main thing is the struggle and not the victory! have you ever thought about the deep meaning of the expression? If there were political will, there would be no corruption as a concept, just as there was no unemployment in the USSR.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 20 September 2020 12: 21
        14
        Quote: Stas157
        The Russian president would have brought his country out of the crisis, and not distributed advice to others!

        We have, it seems to me, two countries, one country for officials and oligarchs, and another country for everyone else. His country is always developing, there was no crisis there and there is no one who doubts let them look at the Forbes list, it is constantly replenished with the "best people" of his country.
      3. depressant
        depressant 20 September 2020 14: 21
        10
        I think we need to rally not, as you put it, "with zero", but around the milestones of our history. One of such milestones is the Lenin Mausoleum.
        I have never been a communist, and I was dragged into the Komsomol at the institute - a regime one, otherwise it is impossible. Indifferent to ideology as an active factor of my being, at the same time I was in love with the idea of ​​communism as the bright future of all mankind and remain so to this day. The image of "developed capitalism" is not attractive. Whatever it is, the word "bright" does not apply to it. Never!
        And in this regard, I want to say the following. If you want the light of a distant star to still reach us from the future, so that we hope to turn at least someday from a race of consumers into a race of people, the Mausoleum - do not destroy it! It is a monument to our impulse to a higher order future. We were the first on this path, and we will return to it!
        And they ... Let them destroy their monuments, as they just did in the cities and towns of the United States. Our Mausoleum is a border milestone that separates us from them. And let the youth now do not know who Lenin is, and the elders dismiss the question. The time will come - they will recognize, remember, and be filled with pride: this, it turns out, was where we were the first - in choosing the right path.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 20 September 2020 18: 54
          +1
          Quote: depressant
          I think we need to rally not, as you put it, "with zero", but around the milestones of our history. One of such milestones is the Lenin Mausoleum.
          I have never been a communist, and I was dragged into the Komsomol at the institute - a regime one, otherwise it is impossible. Indifferent to ideology as an active factor of my being, at the same time I was in love with the idea of ​​communism as the bright future of all mankind and remain so to this day. The image of "developed capitalism" is not attractive. Whatever it is, the word "bright" does not apply to it. Never!
          And in this regard, I want to say the following. If you want the light of a distant star to still reach us from the future, so that we hope to turn at least someday from a race of consumers into a race of people, the Mausoleum - do not destroy it! It is a monument to our impulse to a higher order future. We were the first on this path, and we will return to it!
          And they ... Let them destroy their monuments, as they just did in the cities and towns of the United States. Our Mausoleum is a border milestone that separates us from them. And let the youth now do not know who Lenin is, and the elders dismiss the question. The time will come - they will recognize, remember, and be filled with pride: this, it turns out, was where we were the first - in choosing the right path.

          "It’s a pity only - to live in this wonderful time
          You won't have to - neither me, nor you. "(C)
          1. DPN
            DPN 24 September 2020 22: 42
            0
            So YOU, have already lived and broke firewood before and more, more than one generation will disentangle.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 25 September 2020 20: 54
              0
              Quote: DPN
              So YOU, have already lived and broke firewood before and more, more than one generation will disentangle.

              We didn't build, yes. But they did not break anything either. I, like my ancestors, was a career soldier, I quit pretty much before the "events", so your diarrhea is past the cash register, as they say. hi
      4. Lexus
        Lexus 20 September 2020 14: 30
        +3
        a set of fearful zaputinets horror stories. The whole set of their phobias

        Bravo, Stas! hi Half-pots only in their own "kitchen" are such brave "fighters" that "in one fell swoop seven beats" (C). And there, "visiting a fairy tale" (C), where they are slowly dumping, "the tongue in the master's firebox" or on the "microphone" tirelessly "polishes the trust" and "the tail is tucked in" so that the "trousers" from the surging stream of "courage" did not part at the seams.

        Yah?! So straight and waiting?

        "Everyone loves the circus." (C) In the West - "especially". In the "rainbow" light of the "blue screen".


        Vladimir Vysotsky - "Dialogue on the TV".
        Art show. Performed by A. Krasko and N. Akimova (1984)
        1. Kart
          Kart 23 September 2020 12: 15
          -1
          Quote: lexus
          Half-pots only in their own "kitchen" are such brave "fighters" that "in one fell swoop seven beats" (C).

          Everything is exactly the opposite.
          You are so brave here on the anonymous Internet. Fighters against the regime for a brighter future.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 23 September 2020 15: 46
            0
            I will answer once and for all to all "six-provocateurs". At a breakthrough pace, the shop is approaching its closing. When it happens, it is already inevitable, your saving "cap" will be removed. The gang will scatter, but the "schnyrs" will remain. The "roof" that has not completely left will compete in the speed of giving testimony on their own kind and ... their "wards". Then you will emit "liquid courage" ... In the hands of the People's Court.
      5. nekromonger
        nekromonger 20 September 2020 22: 13
        +2
        and in terms of living standards, indeed, the 90s, grandmothers fight in the garbage dump of pyaterochek, and where the reset is leading the country, even he does not understand.
      6. CSKA
        CSKA 21 September 2020 17: 18
        -1
        Quote: Stas157
        and evil America (only which for some reason our elite really loves)

        What are you? And how is this expressed?
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 20 September 2020 07: 29
      +8
      Quote: Comrade

      I remember that Yeltsin took it out of museums and sold Yuri Gagarin's spacesuit to the Americans for a penny

      And about the spacesuit, to put it mildly, you did not tell the whole truth.

      In 1993, Sotheby's was already auctioning off lots, among which were Gagarin's flight report, his military uniform, and Korolev's slide rule. Then the American millionaire Richard Garriott bought for 68,5 thousand dollars ... "Lunokhod-2". If anyone does not know, this "machine" is tightly parked on a natural satellite of the Earth - just as the device stopped at the edge of the lunar crater in 1973, it still stands there. But the American was not embarrassed, and he acquired the rights to the "toy", which he is unlikely to ever see with his own eyes.

      According to rumors, the original Gagarin's spacesuit was also sold at the same auction - an orange SK-1 suit with a spherical helmet, so well known to us from photo and newsreels. Reports of this leapt into the Russian media. They say that now the famous spacesuit flaunts at the National Museum of Aviation and Astronautics in Washington. Next to the corresponding inscription: "Gagarin's space suit" ("Gagarin's space suit"). Is it true?

      - The newspapers even wrote how much we sold it for - for 30 thousand dollars. But this is all complete nonsense! - says Boris Ivanov, "curator of the museum" NPP "Zvezda", which produces life support systems for pilots and cosmonauts. - The real Gagarin SK-1, the one in which he flew on April 12, 1961, is in our exposition, although we were repeatedly asked to sell it.

      https://aif.ru/society/science/24215
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 20 September 2020 20: 47
        +5
        According to rumors, the original Gagarin's spacesuit was also sold at the same auction - an orange SK-1 suit with a spherical helmet, so well known to us from photo and newsreels. Reports of this leapt into the Russian media. They say that now the famous spacesuit flaunts at the National Museum of Aviation and Astronautics in Washington.
        In the National Museum of Aeronautics and Astronautics, the SK-1 spacesuit of Yuri Gagarin is indeed on display. Nearby is the suit of the first US astronaut to travel to space - John Glenn.

        The American's spacesuit is the one in which he flew. Gagarin's spacesuit is a training one, one of those that were used in preparation for the flight.
    4. lelik613
      lelik613 20 September 2020 07: 46
      37
      Sell ​​them Yeltsin.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 20 September 2020 08: 24
        29
        Quote: lelik613
        Sell ​​them Yeltsin.

        Putin will be against. Yes, and lay wreaths to the drunkard will have to travel far. Putin would rather sell Lenin than a saint for himself.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 20 September 2020 16: 28
          10
          "Blue" can be divided "like brothers". "Top" set in some American "drink" near the Washington Capitol - let the local "pilgrims", after libations, "kiss". And leave the "bottom" to its local followers. Enough for them. It is "there" that these should "lay warm gratitude" for their worthless, but comfortable and "rainbow" life. "Founding father of a close-knit family", after all.
        2. Lexus
          Lexus 20 September 2020 20: 24
          +7
          It is not even required to embalm it - it is "naturally" so alcoholized that it is necessary to post a corresponding warning for the "sniffers" lol

          "Alcohol is contraindicated in children and adolescents under 18 years of age, pregnant and lactating women, persons with diseases of the central nervous system, kidneys, liver and other digestive organs."
      2. Pilot
        Pilot 20 September 2020 08: 28
        14
        Quote: lelik613
        Sell ​​them Yeltsin.

        ,, Announce the entire list of pzhaluysta ,, (c) Such a liberal-crap ,, goods ,, in bulk in Russia, practically the second oil, alive and dead. Who would buy? what
      3. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 20 September 2020 09: 54
        +8
        I would even just give it.
      4. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 20 September 2020 10: 26
        26
        Quote: lelik613
        Sell ​​them Yeltsin.

        And Chubais.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 20 September 2020 12: 23
          +2
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          And Chubais.

          Chubais in what form?
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 20 September 2020 16: 32
            +4
            hi For the sake of such a case, we will fold and mummify the whole "family" (OCG). "Hom give."
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 20 September 2020 16: 40
              +3
              Quote: lexus
              For the sake of such a case, we will fold and mummify the whole "family" (OCG). Alive.

              Hello Kamrad. And look, the minus came to you almost immediately, the red-haired has secret admirers on the website, they are not asleep.
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 20 September 2020 16: 42
                +6
                "Prigozhinskaya Ku-khnya" works around the clock, in asral mode.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 20 September 2020 18: 50
            +5
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Chubais in what form?

            Mummify for life, and with honors. laughing
          3. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 21 September 2020 08: 18
            +1
            In formalin, you can.
      5. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 20 September 2020 14: 29
        +5
        Quote: lelik613
        Sell ​​them Yeltsin.

        Yeltsin Center is better, and its state funding is turned off.
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 20 September 2020 05: 31
    22
    It won't be long to wait. Vladimir Putin's speech will be delivered on the first day of the session, September 22.
    the farce called "UN" is not interesting for a long time, and the speeches of the "darkest" are also not interesting, 20 years of verbiage, and the decline in the living standards of the population ... the meaning of HIS speeches?
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 20 September 2020 06: 33
      +9
      what can you do ... well, our sun-faced loves to talk ... to dream ... to promise ...
      so the author, in a state of cognitive dissonance, is trying to work out the nice pieces of silver ... again about "stability" and "the states are to blame for everything" ... he even pulled the problem with the restless Ilyich by the ears ...
      and the photo is just transcript ... Lenin, sheep and k ... ly ... very symbolic and relevant ...
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 20 September 2020 16: 53
        +4
        Lenin, sheep and k ... ly ... very symbolic and relevant ...

        good They are also afraid of Ilyich, therefore they look around and shit. As well as their "colleagues" among the "sapiens".
    2. Alexy
      Alexy 20 September 2020 06: 37
      -1
      Is it that from 2000 to 2020 the standard of living of the population in Russia fell ???
      This is an outright lie.
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 20 September 2020 06: 51
        13
        well, somehow since the days of "krymnash" and the visit of the banker "bjukhgalter" for some reason steadily strives for the plinth ...
        not all of course ...
        who is a stigma in a budget trough, so it seems nothing ... and only the Kremlin-Ozerkovsky with the near-bell ones, in general, the whole life of the laf is continuous ...
        1. nnm
          nnm 20 September 2020 07: 58
          -3
          Quote: kepmor
          "bjukhgaltera"

          What kind of animal is this? I could not understand who you mean.
          1. lelik613
            lelik613 20 September 2020 12: 42
            +4
            Didier Burkhalter
            1. nnm
              nnm 20 September 2020 12: 45
              -7
              Yes, Strelkov is a source for all sources)))) Little, apparently, Borodai and others told about him.
        2. Prisoner
          Prisoner 20 September 2020 09: 44
          -7
          Maybe your ability to work has decreased from frustration because of Crimea? By the way, my only budget is my pension and what kind of payments. And so on free bread. By old age I got carried away with metalwork and still do not starve. hi
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 12
            +8
            Well done. How much I like these kitchen philosophers who are trying to pull their little luck in life like an owl on a globe to the whole world.
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 20 September 2020 18: 56
              -14 qualifying.
              And how much I like the mother's whiners who are trying to pull their failures onto the globe. hi
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 19: 53
                +3
                So far, only you are whining. I give an adequate assessment of your behavior.
          2. 72jora72
            72jora72 21 September 2020 07: 07
            0
            By the way, my only budget is my pension and what payments. And so on free bread. By old age I got carried away with metalwork and still do not starve.
            You can sell drugs, the same you will not starve ........
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 21 September 2020 11: 51
              0
              My hands are in order, my head is normal and the leaven is male. I prefer to build. Leave your projects to yourself.
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 20 September 2020 08: 19
        21
        Quote: Alexy
        Is it that from 2000 to 2020 the standard of living of the population in Russia fell ???
        It grew from about 1999 to 2008, then intermittently in 2010-2014. And it is largely due to the rise in oil prices, which reached $ 150 a barrel in the mid-90s. Here, even under Yeltsin, the standard of living would have increased. After all, in the neighboring republics of the CIS, where the tsars have not changed all these years, in the same way the standard of living (which was even lower than the Russian in the XNUMXs) has grown significantly.
      3. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 20 September 2020 14: 37
        11
        Quote: Alexy
        Is it that from 2000 to 2020 the standard of living of the population in Russia fell ???

        during the period indicated by you, among my personal acquaintances there were 4 suicides, 3 deaths from alcoholism, and several people closed their trading business and travel to the North ... Not a single child of my acquaintances works as an engineer, although they received the appropriate education. Three familiar taxi drivers have TWO !!! higher education, candidate of sciences works as a librarian ...... All through one lawyers and economists ... and specialists in European-quality repair. Something is wrong here IMHO
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 20 September 2020 16: 36
          -8
          "Among my personal acquaintances there were 4 suicides, 3 deaths from alcoholism." You had to help with everything you could and not let the problems take their course, but apparently you didn't care about them, since these problems of your friends developed for a long period of time.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 20 September 2020 16: 54
            16
            Quote: Vadim237
            It was necessary to help with everything that was possible and not let the problems take their course

            these are acquaintances and not friends, however, one of them lived at my house for a month, I dragged him in, pulled him out of the binge, treated him, dug in ... had problems with his wife and children. Don't blame me on the systemic problems of the socio-economic structure of the state. Are you ready to help a drunken friend so that you drag him to your home and control so that he does not find a drink ??? laughing
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 20 September 2020 20: 16
              -7
              I didn’t drag home - I sent them for treatment from the appropriate place.
    3. Tatyana Pershina
      Tatyana Pershina 20 September 2020 09: 46
      -13 qualifying.
      Quote: Dead Day
      falling living standards of the population.

      Take a look in your wallet, in your refrigerator, in your garage and compare what was in them 20 years ago with what is now.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 10
        +9
        And for those who do not have a garage where to look? In particular, 20 million of the middle class with an income of 17 sput.
        1. Tatyana Pershina
          Tatyana Pershina 20 September 2020 14: 31
          -4
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          And for those who do not have a garage where to look?

          So it did not exist 20 years ago. Or was it and had to be sold?
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 48
            +9
            And at the beginning of the century, horror, the peasants did not have iPhones. So our bright capitalist present is not for everyone? Well, OK. Then why all these screams and snot about rallying?
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 21 September 2020 07: 16
            +3
            Quote: Tatyana Pershina
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And for those who do not have a garage where to look?

            So it did not exist 20 years ago. Or was it and had to be sold?

            I sold my garage last year. AND?

            The annual fees, exorbitant, are growing steadily every year. Many were simply taken away from their garages for non-payment of these extortionate fees.
            1. Tatyana Pershina
              Tatyana Pershina 21 September 2020 11: 14
              -2
              The empty garage should probably be sold.
  3. Dimy4
    Dimy4 20 September 2020 05: 34
    17
    In the 90s, the entire liberal-perestroika shushara even released something like a slogan, they say, we will bury Lenin, demolish the mausoleum and then we will soooo live that everything will jump into our mouths and pockets without any effort. And the most interesting thing is that there were those who believed this.
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 20 September 2020 08: 34
      12
      Quote: Dimy4
      they say we will bury Lenin, demolish the mausoleum and then we will live soooo that everything will jump into our mouths and pockets without any effort. And the most interesting thing is that there were those who believed this.

      Tyk "Shirley-Myrli" is our everything! laughing Particularly noteworthy is the ending, when the whole country flies to a resort, while someone has to build a "bright future like in the West" on this territory for the sold diamond. And they built this bright future for some, others - according to Chubais, simply did not fit into the "budget."
      Have you made a bargain with the "diamond"? fellow
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 20 September 2020 08: 34
      +6
      Well yes! Especially the slogan that the market will put everything in its place.
      Quote: Dimy4
      In the 90s, the entire liberal-perestroika shushara even released something like a slogan, they say, we will bury Lenin, demolish the mausoleum and then we will soooo live that everything will jump into our mouths and pockets without any effort. And the most interesting thing is that there were those who believed this.

      And then there are Russian folk tales about the Samobranka Tablecloth, the Airplane Carpet, the Self-Propelled Boots. ... And you can also wave your magic wand ... laughing
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 20 September 2020 16: 59
        +2
        Dmitry welcomehi , there is also an anecdote about "squatting self-satisfaction."lol
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 20 September 2020 21: 37
          +5
          I read a while ago, but it was awkward to write. Now I look --- all the minuses are complete. Those who are against Lenin are minus. It is evident that such fool fool ... Little
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 20 September 2020 23: 25
            +6
            My colleagues and I on other branches have already found out that the pathological menopause is. When they can no longer “give” anything intelligible, they only deny. "Minus" is their frigid "no".
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 20 September 2020 23: 46
              +3
              Well, I do not know. .... they can take on various forms. ... laughing It's just that everything is clear here without options, in my opinion.
              Mironov said that in his opinion, this is a matter for the future.
              Round dates are coming from the date of death of I.V. Stalin, V.I.Lenin. Apparently the liberals decided to prepare in advance.
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 20 September 2020 23: 58
                +6
                I am sure that no "chopiks" and "patches" will save them.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 21 September 2020 00: 08
                  +3
                  There was always an effort to somehow spoil various important dates ...
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 21 September 2020 00: 20
                    +4
                    In case of diarrhea, however, no one has yet "cheated" his wallet.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 21 September 2020 01: 02
                      +3
                      Quote: lexus
                      In case of diarrhea, however, no one has yet "cheated" his wallet.

                      On the contrary, they profited to one degree or another negative negative
                      1. Lexus
                        Lexus 21 September 2020 01: 11
                        +8
                        The key to the "success of a drug dealer" is not to consume the "crap" that you "push".
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 21 September 2020 07: 11
        -1
        And then there are Russian folk tales about the Samobranka Tablecloth, the Airplane Carpet, the Self-Propelled Boots. ... And you can also wave your magic wand ...
        Here's the problem, again you got the "wrong" people .......
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 21 September 2020 13: 14
          0
          I’m just that people. But the fact that with the help of superstitions and unrealizable fantasies ---- life will not improve, as some teach ---- this is 100%.
          Quote: 72jora72
          And then there are Russian folk tales ...
          Here's the problem, again you got the "wrong" people .......

          Fairy tales are not invented for superstition, but because the tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it ...
    3. krops777
      krops777 20 September 2020 14: 32
      +1
      In the 90s, the entire liberal-perestroika shushara even released something like a slogan, they say, we will bury Lenin, demolish the mausoleum and then we will soooo live that everything will jump into our mouths and pockets without any effort.


      The whole liberal perestroika shushara, as you just noticed yesterday, were ardent communists and glorified Ilyich, what happened then suddenly?
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 52
        +3
        In words, many were communists. But in fact, the majority only cut the loot on stupid slogans. And many things happened and did not happen.
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 20 September 2020 21: 45
        +3
        Quote: krops777
        ..... All liberal perestroika shushara, as you just noticed yesterday, were ardent communists and glorified Ilyich, what happened then suddenly?
        it is not suddenly. The rebirth of the nomenclature has always happened. Stalin knew about this and fought the purges. I knew that the nomenclature, for its own benefit, could go to the service of the bourgeoisie. What happened after his death faster and faster
      3. Nikolai Korovin
        Nikolai Korovin 21 September 2020 22: 59
        0
        We must distinguish between communists and commies. Some people think that they are one and the same thing, but they are completely different things.
  4. apro
    apro 20 September 2020 05: 35
    12
    Russia's stability must be undermined at any cost
    Russia today is an enemy for the United States. 

    A very controversial statement ... that the first ... what the second ... stability in Russia is not needed in the first place by the leading class of Russia. In an unstable situation it is easier to stuff in your pockets ... and from here comes the second ... but where are they honestly earned pull ???? not under the control of damned merikos ??? In tallers, in securities, in real estate, in an enterprise ...
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 20 September 2020 07: 50
      0
      Quote: apro
      A very controversial statement ... that the first ... what the second ... stability in Russia is not needed in the first place by the leading class of Russia. In an unstable situation it is easier to stuff in your pockets ... and from here comes the second ... but where are they honestly earned pull ???? not under the control of damned merikos ??? In tallers, in securities, in real estate, in an enterprise ...

      Oh, how exactly did you put it, we are kalonka, but rather a needle. Only here is the dilemma, who is worse from the needle to the pricker or the patient? The world is huge and diverse, and certainly it is not ruled by the Masons of the State Department. Moreover, the enemy is not the United States. And is there anyway? Do you think the author of the article knows?
      1. nnm
        nnm 20 September 2020 08: 01
        +4
        Quote: Senka Mad
        And the more the enemy is not the USA

        Eh, nostalgia! Since the 90s, I have already begun to forget this slogan, which then rushed from every iron.
        With friends like that, no enemies are needed.
        1. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 20 September 2020 08: 35
          +2
          When the memory is good, that's okay. But the fact that the United States is our enemy even during the union was a slogan, let's be honest .. After all, they did not "hit", but in fact they did not fall apart, and as some believe, they chose a different course. There is wisdom somewhere that the most dangerous enemy is pretending to be a friend, and not waving his fists.
          1. nnm
            nnm 20 September 2020 08: 37
            +5
            The fact that the enemy is inside does not in any way negate its presence from outside. For me, the question looks different - for whom the inner enemy works. Whether he is independent, or just works for the outside.
            1. Senka naughty
              Senka naughty 20 September 2020 08: 52
              0
              If I knew the buy-in, I would live in Sochi. Inner husk, these are all illusions singing about the great collapse of countries from within. Without long bloody wars, no one ever gave up. Even those fry whom the "hygemon" democratized for half a century and then kicked, after which all these attempts were suddenly called "terrorism". It does not seem to me that the destruction / disappearance of empires is a fact, but rather a transformation or evolution. Although I can't really see from here.
              1. nnm
                nnm 20 September 2020 08: 58
                +4
                There is one nuance that I will try to describe in a banal analogy.
                - Kindergarten. An adult educator comes, whom they believe a priori, and says that the kids, before that I taught you incorrectly. I made you go to the pots, I made you sleep and dress warmly before the walk. But in the neighboring kindergarten, this is not and all the children there are happy. Now we will do that too. And in the end, everything rolls like a snowball.
                So, Soviet society was so naive that even having voted for the preservation of the union in a referendum, they believed that someone would take this into account. It was ready to repel external aggression, but not internal. And, remember, it was said that there will be the CIS - and this is the same, just the name is slightly different.
                1. Senka naughty
                  Senka naughty 20 September 2020 09: 14
                  -1
                  On a thin one. It's clear about the kindergarten, but they are different (black, white, red), this is important, but not the point.
                  About naivety I absolutely agree, WWII - devastation - all from scratch - Gaidai's films of the same type, and roughly speaking the total, 300 million inhabitants of the same quarters. You can't leave everything like that, it's a dead end and the result is a global war. And I don’t know what anyone thinks now, but after the collapse, the population still received a "vaccine" against internal aggression, and only from external developments remained. Isn't this evolution?
                  Finished reading about "CIS" .. I really want to believe, but there are doubts that old friends of the zakadygi, in 30-40 years, will understand each other perfectly. hi
                  1. nnm
                    nnm 20 September 2020 09: 19
                    +1
                    Of course not. Now the restoration of the union or its analogy is impossible. Even due to the absence of other centripetal drivers besides economic cooperation. Any form of relationship will do for her. Even without a union.
                    1. Senka naughty
                      Senka naughty 20 September 2020 11: 44
                      +1
                      Quote: nnm
                      Any form of relationship will do for her. Even without a union.

                      Integrity. As soon as we did not go on this term, who is not too lazy. But personally, I believe some smart guys that the country as a world "partner" economically and much more ideologically, can survive in our realities, with a population of at least 300 million. So the integrity is the USSR, the CIS, the USA, China with its billion, etc. etc. Therefore, without a union as a whole, they are usually rasped in parts, visually ..
                      1. nnm
                        nnm 20 September 2020 11: 56
                        0
                        How to say. If you do not take politics, then where do you go to Germany, Austria, Spain, for example ...
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 20 September 2020 10: 48
            +2
            There is wisdom somewhere that the most dangerous enemy is pretending to be a friend, and not waving his fists.
            good
      2. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 20 September 2020 09: 59
        -1
        There is the USA. I know for sure.
    2. nikvic46
      nikvic46 20 September 2020 10: 00
      +1
      "Russia is an enemy for the USA today." For the United States, Russia was even an enemy during the Second World War, and the late opening of the second front speaks of this. I'm not even talking about the post-war period. We didn't eat gingerbread together.
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 20 September 2020 11: 34
        +1
        Quote: nikvic46
        "Russia is an enemy for the USA today." For the United States, Russia was even an enemy during the Second World War, and the late opening of the second front speaks of this. I'm not even talking about the post-war period. We didn't eat gingerbread together.

        And as a well-fed pit bull, you do not consider the United States? if you break the mirrors, you can see the leash.
      2. apro
        apro 20 September 2020 14: 44
        +2
        Quote: nikvic46
        For the United States, Russia was even an enemy during the Second World War, and the late opening of the second front speaks about this

        Looking at the kin of their america.interesting conclusions.the Germans in them look more dangerous opponents than the Russians ... insane professors, brutal terrorists, prudent businessmen ... the Russians look more comical.
  5. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 20 September 2020 05: 52
    +8
    Therefore, they correctly do that the old armored vehicles of which there are thousands of units are modernized, and the new one is carefully prepared for the series, they buy gold and prepare for possible options.
  6. Coconut
    Coconut 20 September 2020 05: 57
    -20 qualifying.
    Lenin, in one of his first decrees, allowed abortion and homosexuality ... so think about it
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 20 September 2020 06: 40
      10
      Quote: Coco
      Lenin, in one of his first decrees, allowed abortion and homosexuality ... so think about it


      Insanity comes to many with age. Don't push it out so openly.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 20 September 2020 06: 56
        +6
        Quote: sergo1914
        Insanity comes to many with age. Don't push it out so openly.

        good
        The decree "On the destruction of estates and civilian ranks" 11 (24) November 1917 destroyed (canceled) all estates, titles and ranks of the Russian Empire, replacing them with a single "name" - "citizen of the Russian Republic"

        And today there are calls to return ... Some will be "gentlemen", and others - "rogue" ...
        1. nnm
          nnm 20 September 2020 08: 03
          -8
          Excuse me, but where are the calls for the return of the estates? And for example? I just want to read the original source.
          Why are you not talking about the actual stratification, but deign to lie about some calls?
          After all, there is a real problem, but for some reason you turn it into a farce with such statements and thereby drape
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 20 September 2020 09: 09
            +2
            Quote: nnm
            Excuse me, but where are the calls for the return of the estates? And for example? I just want to read the original source.

            What can I tell you so as not to offend? The bird can be seen from the flight, the good fellow for the snot, the hurray-patriot in the hand outstretched for the spoon (that is, he gave shit, give a spoon) ... Sorry, I didn't want to offend, but I have to. Apparently that saying that "once they are deaf they do not serve mass - they serve one, and that one more quickly" was not brought to you ...
            Then listen, seeker of truth:
            3. Civil service posts are divided into the following groups:
            1) top civil service posts;
            2) the main posts of the civil service;
            3) leading civil service positions;
            4) senior civil service posts;
            5) junior civil service posts.
            4. Positions of the categories "managers" and "assistants (advisers)" are divided into the highest, main and leading groups of positions in the civil service.
            5. Positions of the "specialists" category are subdivided into the highest, main, leading and senior groups of civil service positions.
            6. Positions in the category of "support specialists" are divided into main, leading, senior and junior groups of civil service positions.

            Here's the law:
            http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_48601/13935f8c409f17f399cf2cddcf5da0638c9e6fe4/
            Here's an explanation:
            https://www.kem.kp.ru/daily/23337/31141/
            Do you want to look for the name of the party leader who suggested "washing boots in the Indian Ocean" and introducing a table of ranks? belay
            1. nnm
              nnm 20 September 2020 09: 15
              -1
              Are you seriously???!!!
              So it has always been!
              So just cite article 46 of the Law on Military Duty and Military Service at once - there is also a gradation there - senior, senior officers, etc.
              And so it was even in the days of the USSR!
              So let's stop developing this topic ...
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      3. Coconut
        Coconut 20 September 2020 09: 47
        -10 qualifying.
        You need to learn and not poke your fingers into the chat ..
      4. tatra
        tatra 20 September 2020 11: 12
        -2
        Yes, it's all perestroika nonsense. And one more fact - the enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR are people who are very easily manipulated by their puppeteers, who inspire them with what they want, set them against whoever they want, make them praise whoever they want. And thus, the puppeteers of the Russian enemies of the Communists, starting with Gorbachev and Perestroika, instilled in them adoration of the strictly last Russian monarch, a delusional myth that under him Russia fed the whole world, and Ukrainian puppeteers instilled in the enemies of the Communists adoration of the citizen of Austria-Hungary and Poland Bandera.
    2. olegactor
      olegactor 20 September 2020 06: 59
      16
      Lenin, in one of his first decrees, allowed abortion and homosexuality ... so think about it

      hey, smart guy for sodomy in the USSR, the article was criminal ... and fagots were not heard on the streets ... so you think ... but don't suck it off your finger
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 20 September 2020 07: 53
        -7
        Quote: olegactor

        hear the smart guy for sodomy in the USSR the article was criminal.

        real "smart guys" need to know that in 1917 the Bolsheviks CANCELED article for sodomy (i.e. allowed gomosyatinu), which existed in Russian legislation before the thief. They were the FIRST in the world to do this.

        At the congress of the Institute for Sexual Sciences, held in Copenhagen in In 1928, the USSR was declared by the participants to be a model of sexual tolerance.

        In 1922, the marriage of two lesbians was legalized in Leningrad.

        Gays were banned only in 1934

        The Bolsheviks were the FIRST in the world to allow abortion. The number of victims of this is 200.

        For decades, more abortions were carried out in the USSR than in all countries of the world combined.
        1. nnm
          nnm 20 September 2020 08: 20
          +3
          I was always amazed at people who, basically, state real facts, but either out of intent, or out of ignorance, they shuffle them so that the original meaning changes to the opposite.
          Yes, after the revolution, homosexuality was decriminalized. But this was not an independent decree, as well as an end in itself. It was truly a revolution, the goal of which was to free oneself from all the foundations of the old society. I will just cite excerpts from the correspondence between Trotsky and Lenin (1911)
          Trotsky wrote "Undoubtedly, sexual oppression is the main means of enslaving man. As long as such oppression exists, there can be no talk of real freedom. The family, as a bourgeois institution, has completely outlived its usefulness. It is necessary to talk more about this to the workers ..." Lenin answered him: " ... And not only the family. All prohibitions related to sexuality must be lifted ... We have a lot to learn from the suffragists: even the ban on same-sex love must be lifted. "
          At that time they understood this precisely as a struggle against oppression. And they certainly did not put homosexuality at the forefront.
          And they also canceled banknotes - well, that's how they saw at that time the direction of change in a colossally inert society. And you took, pulled out of the historical context, one fact and skimp on it.

          The Bolsheviks were the FIRST in the world to allow abortion. The number of victims of this is 200.

          Why not billions? And why do you decide for women how they should act?

          For decades, more abortions were carried out in the USSR than in all countries of the world combined

          I have already written about the reliability of your statistics. And here's another question for you - how did you calculate the number of illegal abortions in the world? Or do you think that if they were banned, then charlatans simply did not make them on the gateways in the entire "civilized world"? Well, you, colleague, are pretty much mistaken.

          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 20 September 2020 09: 52
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: nnm
            At that time they understood this precisely as a struggle against oppression.

            Those. ANY ways are good and therefore - .... hello and homosexual? Do you realize WHAT you are talking about ?!
            And yes today your homosexuals same are fighting "against oppression."

            And you, of course, again approve, yes ... yes .
            Quote: nnm
            Why not billions? And why do you decide for women how they should act?

            Because a woman decides 200 million at another stage and by other methods, only you could not provide them even with these simple objects and elementary knowledge.

            Quote: nnm
            I have already written about the reliability of your statistics.

            Shouldn't I sneeze?
            Quote: nnm
            And here's another question for you - how did you calculate the number of illegal abortions in the world? Or do you think that if they were banned, then charlatans simply did not make them on the gateways in the entire "civilized world"? Well, you, colleague, are pretty much wrong.

            Why would I count them?
            There are official statistics, and speculation and gossip are the least that interests. ...
            NORMAL countries allowed abortion 40, 50, 70 years after 1920, taking care of women's health, offspring and country.

            The abortion culture created by yours, where an abortion is done, as if to go to the store, crippled women both morally and physically ..
            1. nnm
              nnm 20 September 2020 10: 04
              +2
              All clear...
              1. Even after quotes from Trotsky's correspondence with Lenin, you still did not understand the essence of their thoughts. For them, homosexuality was a billion-dollar issue in the abolition of the home-building structure of relations. You just stumbled upon the fact that it was he who was allowed by almost the first decree, although there was never a direct decree on it.
              2.
              Quote: Olgovich
              Because 200 million.

              Quote: Olgovich
              Why would I count them?

              Why cite figures of cosmic scale and cosmic questionable reliability? It is necessary to operate on extremely reliable facts and it is necessary to compare them with similar indicators. Otherwise, how do you understand - is it a lot or a little. Why take numbers out of thin air? And what will this figure give, without comparison with the same indicators in other countries?
              3.
              Quote: Olgovich
              A woman decides at a different stage and by other methods

              Let them decide for themselves when and what to do. Or think that they do abortions from a good life and they are for them

              Quote: Olgovich
              how to go to the store

              Seriously?!
              And not the standard of living, or the drinking and beating men is the reason, but just how did you get out for bread?
              What nonsense are you talking about!
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 20 September 2020 10: 38
                -10 qualifying.
                Quote: nnm
                Even after quotes from Trotsky's correspondence with Lenin, you still do not understand the essence of their thoughts. For them, homosexuality was a billion-dollar issue in the abolition of the home-building structure of relations.

                I do not care about their "thoughts" about all the good, if they led to such ugliness.
                Quote: nnm
                Why cite figures of cosmic scale and cosmic questionable reliability? It is necessary to operate on extremely reliable facts and it is necessary to compare them with similar indicators. Otherwise, how do you understand - is it a lot or a little. Why take numbers out of thin air? And what will this figure give, without comparison with the same indicators in other countries?

                Find out that your mode of statistics on abortion is SECRETARY (it was a shame, yes), like everything else, about alcoholics, divorces, etc.
                But this data is there: The history of abortion statistics in Russia and the USSR from 1900 to 1991.
                Count and apologize
                Quote: nnm
                Let them decide for themselves when and what to do. Or think that they do abortions from a good life and they are for them

                Of course, they themselves had to decide.

                But for this they had to be taught basic knowledge and provided with contraception so as not to lead to abortions. ...

                Quote: nnm
                Seriously?!
                And not the standard of living, or the drinking and beating men is the reason, but just how did you get out for bread?

                Of course, in communal apartments and basements with a poor salary and drunken men, they did not want to give birth.

                The largest number of abortions per woman was in the USSR (WHO)
                1. nnm
                  nnm 20 September 2020 11: 18
                  +6
                  And you don’t care if from the 60s to 1993 the number of abortions has dropped by two or three times. Everything here is classified, women were not trained, and only homosexuals were wandering around, yeah ... that's how it was.
                  1. nnm
                    nnm 20 September 2020 11: 21
                    +4
                    And now compare with the dynamics in the USA:
                2. tatra
                  tatra 20 September 2020 11: 20
                  +3
                  The enemies of the communists constantly, with your hypocritical "righteous anger", expose what you do YOURSELF for the crimes of the communists. It was you who, after your seizure of the USSR, abolished criminal punishment for homosexuality, and there was a huge number of homosexuals among you. It was you who staged the genocide of peoples on the territory of the USSR you captured, and with you the population of the former USSR is not increasing, but is dying out.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 20 September 2020 12: 22
                    -8
                    Quote: tatra
                    The enemies of the communists constantly, with your hypocritical "righteous anger", expose what you do YOURSELF for the crimes of the communists

                    You don't understand Russian at all, huh?

                    Then ONCE AGAIN and again, until it comes: in 1917 the Bolsheviks canceled the article for sodomy (i.e. allowed gomosyatin), which existed in Russian legislation before the thief. They were the FIRST in the world to do this.

                    Remember, finally!
                    Quote: tatra
                    and there were a huge number of homosexuals among you.

                    YOUR steel Commissar of the USSR Secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party (b) (1935-1939), candidate for members of the Politburo Central Committee of the CPSU (b) Yezhov, which made your favorite 1937 and 38 yy-turned out an ordinary bugger -active and passive - with their eminent famous Bolsheviks Goloshchekin, etc.
                    Quote: tatra
                    It was you who staged the genocide of peoples on the territory of the USSR you captured, and with you the population of the former USSR is not increasing, but dying out.

                    By 1992, the Russian cross, with a huge old population and a small number of young people, was built exclusively by yours. And old people cannot give birth

                    Chop it on your nose.
                    1. tatra
                      tatra 20 September 2020 12: 41
                      +1
                      Well, as always, everything is in strict accordance with the 30-year-old ideology of the enemies of the communists who have seized Russia - malice against the communists, and cowardly blaming those who are guilty and responsible for what the enemies of the communists have done themselves. Because they have nothing for themselves, for what they themselves have done, there is nothing in defense of themselves. And no matter how they portray themselves as "great philanthropists" in their slander against the communists - when they have no benefit to lie and hypocrite - in relation to the people in the Russian Empire and their "independence" on the territory of the captured USSR - they all proved their true essence and the fact that for them their personal enrichment is much more precious than the millions of lives of their fellow citizens.
        2. krops777
          krops777 20 September 2020 09: 28
          -10 qualifying.
          real "smart people" need to know that in 1917 the Bolsheviks CANCELED the article for sodomy (ie, they allowed homosexual), which existed in Russian legislation before the thief. They were the FIRST in the world to do this.

          At the Congress of the Institute for Sexual Sciences, held in Copenhagen in 1928, the USSR was declared by the participants a model of sexual tolerance.

          In 1922, the marriage of two lesbians was legalized in Leningrad.

          Gays were banned only in 1934

          The Bolsheviks were the FIRST in the world to allow abortion. The number of victims of this is 200.

          For decades, more abortions were carried out in the USSR than in all countries of the world combined.



          That komunyaki is an inconvenient truth huh? Immediately minus the opponent to mold, facts are stubborn things. Thanks to Stalin, where would your USSR be now with such laws.
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 20 September 2020 10: 21
            +7
            Quote: krops777
            That komunyaki is an inconvenient truth huh? Immediately minus the opponent to mold, facts are stubborn things. Thanks to Stalin, where would your USSR be now with such laws.


            Isn't Stalin a communist? Not a follower and disciple of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin?
            1. krops777
              krops777 20 September 2020 14: 23
              -2
              Isn't Stalin a communist?


              You are not careful, did I write that Stalin belongs to some class or affiliation? Of course Stalin was a follower of communist ideas, but far from everything that Ilyich bequeathed.
        3. Terrible GMO
          Terrible GMO 20 September 2020 12: 44
          -1
          Quote: Olgovich
          The Bolsheviks were the FIRST in the world to allow abortion. The number of victims of this is 200.

          Read the book "Criminal Abortion". There, in all colors, it is written what happened in the USSR after the ban on abortion. smile
          Written by a pathologist.
        4. olegactor
          olegactor 22 September 2020 06: 05
          0
          At the Congress of the Institute for Sexual Sciences, held in Copenhagen in 1928, the USSR was declared by the participants a model of sexual tolerance.

          In 1922, the marriage of two lesbians was legalized in Leningrad.
          [/ b
          The Bolsheviks were the FIRST in the world to allow abortion. The number of victims of this is 200.

          For decades, more abortions were carried out in the USSR than in all countries of the world combined. [B]


          from where all this nonsense ... sucked ... radio freedom ... echo of Moscow ... al more sources of information are ..
          and now take a look at gay Europe ... or watch any movie / TV series made in pen ... dosiya..omik on fagot and fagot drives
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 22 September 2020 06: 52
            +2
            Quote: olegactor
            from where all this nonsense ... sucked ... radio freedom ... echo of Moscow ... al more sources of information are ..

            To school, ignorant.
            Quote: olegactor
            and now take a look at gay Europe ... or watch any movie / TV series made in pen ... dosiya..omik on fagot and fagot drives

            How does this override the facts above?
            1. olegactor
              olegactor 22 September 2020 15: 43
              -1
              To school, ignorant. [B] [/ b]

              yes, I have behind me not only a school ... but also a military school with an academy ... and you didn't even finish school ... or did you study on the internet ... or are you a liberal campaign ...
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 22 September 2020 16: 04
                +2
                Quote: olegactor
                To school, ignorant. [B] [/ b]

                yes, I have behind me not only a school ... but also a military school with an academy ... and you didn't even finish school ... or did you study on the internet ... or are you a liberal campaign ...

                You can refute the FACTS, can you?

                Not.... lol can lol ?

                Then I will not detain you ....
                1. olegactor
                  olegactor 22 September 2020 17: 57
                  -1
                  You can refute the FACTS, can you?

                  Don't .... lol can you lol?

                  Then I will not detain you.



                  the facts are confirmation by documents from the archives ... and not nonsense ... and not empty phrases taken out of context ... I still lived in the USSR ... and the fagots were not sweet there ... and the population growth was positive .... more than in the same Western Europe .... these are the facts ...
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 23 September 2020 05: 51
                    0
                    Quote: olegactor
                    facts are confirmation by documents from the archives ... not nonsense ... and not empty phrases taken out of context

                    Documents are available and NOBODY, except you, the given facts, DOES NOT deny
                    Quote: olegactor
                    ... yes, and the population growth was positive ... more than in the same Western Europe ... these are the facts ...

                    In the USSR, there was a WILD drop in the birth rate: in just 70 unhappy years, the Russian people from fastest growing in the world your turned into DIE-OUT. Yours built the Russian Cross

                    Hack this next FACT on your nose.
                    1. olegactor
                      olegactor 23 September 2020 06: 58
                      -1
                      In the USSR, there was a WILD drop in the birth rate: in just 70 years of unhappiness, the Russian people from the fastest growing in the world were turned into the Dying Out. Yours built the Russian Cross

                      CHO FOR RANGE .... DATA OF THE POPULATION OF THE USSR LOOK ... ESPECIALLY 50S - 70S ... AND PRE-WAR 20-30S ...
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 23 September 2020 07: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: olegactor

                        CHO FOR RANGE .... DATA OF THE POPULATION OF THE USSR LOOK ... ESPECIALLY 50S - 70S ... AND PRE-WAR 20-30S ...

                        TO SCHOOL, ignoramus!
                        For knowledge.

                        The demographic catastrophe took place already in the 1930s.

                        Read WHAT Stalin said then about the size and growth rate of the population and what scary The truth was shown by the 1937-39 census.

                        Depopulation - since 1964 years
                      2. olegactor
                        olegactor 25 September 2020 14: 44
                        -1
                        The demographic catastrophe took place already in the 1930s.

                        Read what Stalin said then about the size and growth rate of the population and what a terrible TRUTH the census of 1937-39 showed.

                        Depopulation - since 1964



                        well you de..bill
                        What a depopulation ... I was born and studied at a school in the south of the Ukrainian SSR ... Kherson ... and count up he was Russian in the 80s and not some depopulation ... I advise you to read fewer literature ... but then generally say goodbye to the bowler hat
                      3. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 25 September 2020 15: 03
                        +2
                        Quote: olegactor
                        you de..bill

                        Quote: olegactor
                        What a depopulation ... I was born and studied at a school in the south of the Ukrainian SSR ... Kherson ... and count up he was Russian in the 80s and not some depopulation ... I advise you to read fewer literature ... but then generally say goodbye to the bowler hat


                        This is not an educational program, t,: go and learn WHAT is DEPOPULATION and HOW it turns out that, supposedly, an increase today will give a MINUS tomorrow.

                        IN SCHOOL, ignorance-fight!

                        Shame ... negative
            2. olegactor
              olegactor 23 September 2020 06: 54
              -1
              You can refute the FACTS, can you?

              Don't .... lol can you lol?


              WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS .. A COPY OF THE DOCUMENT TO WHICH YOU REFER TO ... AND SO IT'S JUST Pshik
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 23 September 2020 08: 15
                +1
                Quote: olegactor
                WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS .. A COPY OF THE DOCUMENT TO WHICH YOU REFER TO ... AND SO IT'S JUST Pshik

                What can you imagine?

                Someone in the .... academy studied, and ..... not able to look for information?

                Academy clowns was, apparently.

                You have a monograph on abortion, with all the references, etc. "The history of abortion statistics in Russia and the USSR from 1900 to 1991"

                WHAT else do you not know from the History of YOUR country, knowing nothing?
                1. olegactor
                  olegactor 25 September 2020 14: 40
                  -1
                  You have a monograph on abortion, with all references, etc.: "The history of abortion statistics in Russia and the USSR from 1900 to 1991"

                  your source ... from the pin ... dossii .... well then everything is clear .... don't go to their grandmother
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 25 September 2020 14: 59
                    +2
                    Quote: olegactor
                    your source ... from the pin ... dossii .... well then everything is clear .... don't go to their grandmother

                    fool lol
                    ... Avdeev gives links - go and see, ignoramus.
  7. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 September 2020 09: 13
    +3
    Quote: olegactor
    hey, smart guy for sodomy in the USSR, the article was criminal

    So right there is their choir - the choir of boys and Bubenchikov (leader) ... laughing
    Decree "On the destruction of estates and civil ranks"
    Main article: Decree on the destruction of estates and civil ranks
    The decree "On the destruction of estates and civilian ranks" 11 (24) November 1917 destroyed (canceled) all estates, titles and ranks of the Russian Empire, replacing them with a single "name" - "Citizen of the Russian Republic"
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 20 September 2020 06: 00
    +4
    That is, Zhirinovsky, who, if I’m not mistaken, several times made a proposal to get rid of Ilyich’s body, is also undermining the situation and “pouring water on the mill of imperialism”?
    Well, in the light of recent events and her controversial statements, I would not refer to Maria Zakharova at all.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 20 September 2020 06: 12
    0
    I remember wrinkled suits ...
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 20 September 2020 06: 12
    +1
    We look forward to September 22 and the President's speech at the UN General Assembly. Preparing for provocations.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 20 September 2020 06: 51
      11
      Quote: Tank jacket
      We look forward to September 22 and the President's speech at the UN General Assembly. Preparing for provocations.
      It is better to find yourself a young woman, you will spend your time with much greater benefit and much more interesting. laughing Or is everything already so neglected that it remains only to listen to empty speeches? lol
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 20 September 2020 07: 03
        -5
        On September 22, I will see how you will discuss this speech, thereby confirming that it is not empty wassat
        1. Revival
          Revival 20 September 2020 13: 52
          +2
          We and ........ discussed the pension reform and what
    2. lucul
      lucul 20 September 2020 08: 34
      -5
      We look forward to September 22 and the President's speech at the UN General Assembly. Preparing for provocations.

      It may well be an epoch-making speech.
      According to the article - definitely a plus.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 20 September 2020 06: 42
    11
    Vladimir Putin's speech will be delivered on the first day of the session, September 22.

    Was an article written for this announcement?
    1. lucul
      lucul 20 September 2020 08: 36
      -8
      Was an article written for this announcement?

      Pffff ....
      Putin there may well announce the USSR 2.0 ...
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 September 2020 07: 22
    -8
    I and Putin's reign VV 2000, my dollar lafa ended. The office in which I went to sea switched to payment in rubles. Even sacred, the unloading was transferred to rubles and, accordingly, under taxes. The state needs to live. In 20 years all dreams have come true True, there are no new McLaren and Ferrari. There is where to live, the Black Sea is still wet, the sky is blue. I look at my friends Moremans, they buy apartments for children, they give education. Turkey is like a home before quarantine. The most important thing is not whine. The development of fish has grown. Yes. For me this is a sore subject. But recently everything has started to improve. The fleet is not being built abroad, but in Russia. And by the way, not a bad fleet, some countries will be jealous. It remains to resolve organizational issues in the ports. I mean the checking kites. There is already progress in this matter. Of course, the fish will never be as cheap as in the USSR. All costs are on producers. The main achievement of Putin VV is stability. There are no more people who want to get into Russia. The issue with the receiver is now acute I would not ruin what I have achieved. Maybe someone will correct that Kiriyenko was suspiciously removed from Rosatom. So consider me a loyal Putinets, although I always had questions for him. I'm waiting for September 22, it should be a bomb. hi drinks You have a day off, and I, as the Spaniards say, Mucho trobakho. Children, future champions, ice skaters need ice, and this is in the subtropics in Sochi. Thank you, who finished reading. By the way, children are from all over the former USSR and far abroad. good
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 20 September 2020 08: 24
      16
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The main achievement of Putin VV is stability.
      That's noticeable. A dollar in 2007 cost 25 rubles, now it is 75. I think it is not even worth mentioning how much the prices for gasoline and all other products have increased. And you mean some kind of stability ...
      Quote: tralflot1832
      There were no more people wishing to get involved in Russia.
      There are plenty of people willing to change the government in Russia, including me.
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The issue with the receiver is now acute
      We shouldn't have any successor. We are not in tsarist times. There must be elections in which all participants must have equal rights. As it happens in normal countries.
      Quote: tralflot1832
      so as not to ruin the achieved
      And what have we achieved? A corrupt authoritarian state with the power of capital, big business and the siloviki controlled by them?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 September 2020 08: 56
        -11 qualifying.
        This is your vision of life. I have something fundamentally different. Let someone steer from the bulk? Only the receiver, we are not Europe. We have our own world. hi
        1. Firelake
          Firelake 20 September 2020 11: 07
          +6
          You have your own world in your apartment. This stability has already been brought to the handle. Since 2014, the wife of a doctor receives the same amount after each increase in salary. How so? It's simple: we raise the salary and cut the allowances (harmfulness, night, vacations, etc.)
          Poo thinks that he can sit with his friends forever, but he himself is eternal. And most importantly: the longer he sits, the worse it will be.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 20 September 2020 13: 28
            -5
            Over each head doctor, put Putin We had an increase due to inflation, it was noticeable that there was an increase!
            1. Firelake
              Firelake 20 September 2020 13: 31
              0
              And there will be a massive theft.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 20 September 2020 14: 37
                -5
                In hospitals, it is easy to be treated, letters of dismissal are written on request and in the media. Everything !!!
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 20 September 2020 17: 09
                  +2
                  So they do (search in a search engine "all the doctors quit"), after which they are poisoned, declared traitors and promised that they will not be able to get a job.
          2. 72jora72
            72jora72 21 September 2020 07: 25
            +1
            Since 2014, the wife of a doctor receives the same amount after each increase in salary. How so? It's simple: we increase the salary and cut the allowances (harmfulness, night, vacations, etc.)
            My wife's (music school) salary steadily decreases with an increase in salary, which is a paradox, right?
            1. Firelake
              Firelake 22 September 2020 16: 27
              0
              Stable guaranteed poverty. Apparently this is understood by the word stability.
        2. Revival
          Revival 20 September 2020 15: 34
          +1
          World of subjects !?
          No thanks
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 September 2020 10: 31
        +5
        And you mean some kind of stability ...
        Here you are wrong wink gasoline prices are growing steadily. For the import of gaster, laws are consistently adopted to facilitate their residence. though recently these "traitors" of the Kremlin are beginning to return to their Ozbekistons and Tojikistons
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 September 2020 09: 28
      +4
      Mucho trobajo
      will be glad for you. but for many, after the April pandemics, not only the trabaho finale, but also little dineroes. And there is stability ahead when everything is only small
    3. tatra
      tatra 20 September 2020 11: 29
      0
      Yes, after the seizure of Russia by the enemies of the communists and with your Yeltsin-Putin regime imposed by you on Russia and its people, under which the enemies of the communists boast about how much you got, such "stability" - like on a roller coaster - in the 90s everything collapsed Compared to the 80s, in the 2012s, it became a little better exclusively due to high world prices for oil and gas. But already in XNUMX, Putin himself, in his "fiery speech" about galoshes, admitted that there is an economic crisis in Russia, and since then everything has only gotten worse for Russia and most of its people.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 20 September 2020 16: 58
        +1
        "Exclusively due to high world oil and gas prices." Now the share of oil and gas in the total GDP of Russia is 19%, but the share in the budget this year will be 30 percent. Russia is a country living within our means, we have one of the smallest public debts in the world compared with the same USA and Japan, which have more than two annual debts GDP and reserves do not cover even half, and for a country that, from the devastation of the 90s and 69 years of lack of a market and life in the planned economic system, indicators of living standards and everything else are more than worthy of the HDI and IBSC according to the World Bank, Russia has very high among 200 countries and this is all in spite of the crisis, collapse of sanctions, and so on. Life in Russia cannot be called good - but its language will not turn out to be a blockhead either.
  • north 2
    north 2 20 September 2020 07: 35
    -3
    for me, the army and navy are strong and no one will trample against Russia with weapons. Here we must pay tribute to Putin and Shoigu who did not waste time in vain and did not eat bread for nothing. But with the fifth column in the media, on television, in the theater, in the cinema, literary, pop music environment, everything is neglected so that there is a soroncha
    the fifth column multiplies faster than and devours the Russian spirit more gluttonous than the locust invasion in
    nature. And the authorities are silent. It got to the point of absurdity that, according to the Constitution, the borders of Russia are limited, and according to the Criminal Code, those who oppose the integrity of the Russian state, they must be sentenced
    court to sit in jail. But such as the Makarevichs, Akhedzhakovs, Bulls Efremovs, Pugachevs .akunins, and so on
    constantly speaks out stating that the part of Russia Crimea is not the territory of the Russian state.
    And how many of these are still in universities, in all sorts of VES. Why are they not in jail for being against
    the integrity of the Russian state, I cannot understand. So there are still such in some quantity and in all parties and in all departments and in all structures of regional, republican and regional authorities. And what, those governors and officials and bribe-takers who were stealing, that they were not yet stealing
    reserve of the fifth column, so that they can always be pressed by blackmail and so that they harm Russia
    from within regions, cities and republics.
    If Russia fails and has not yet managed to neutralize the fifth column within the state, then it
    the hybrid war will lose. And the USSR would have lost the Second World War
    1. north 2
      north 2 20 September 2020 07: 41
      +5
      The end of my commentary above ... And the USSR would have lost the Second World War, if Stalin had not neutralized the fifth column in the USSR before the Second World War.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 September 2020 10: 24
        +3
        if Stalin had not neutralized the fifth column in the USSR before the Second World War.
        What or who prevents Putin from neutralizing those whom you consider the fifth column?
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 20 September 2020 14: 00
          +1
          A constitution where there are no ideologies or at least a hint of an idea common to all and prompting for achievements. Plus, formally, the state does not control the private media, and ort and so on, there are private traders, in fact, where the state is only 15 minutes away for news from the authorities.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 20 September 2020 08: 27
      10
      Quote: north 2
      If Russia fails and has not yet managed to neutralize the fifth column within the state
      The fifth column, which destroyed the USSR, is now sitting in the Kremlin and adopting anti-popular laws. You are not looking for the enemy there. It is not overseas or in Europe, it is much closer than you think. Look less propaganda from federal channels.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 September 2020 09: 10
        -10 qualifying.
        I will give you advice, listen to the Hodor and his team of their hangers less. I set myself a goal in my life to move from sunny Murmansk, by the way, excellent people of Murmansk, to their historical homeland. Now I enjoy the results of my work and I look like the "fifth column" by hook and by hook wants To get into the Kremlin to steer. Belarus is an example of this. This is how Western technologies are being tested to change power. You will not succeed in anything. hi
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 23 September 2020 07: 59
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          listen to Hodor and his team of hangers-on
          In general, I have never watched it. I can similarly advise you not to watch propaganda programs from federal channels.
          Quote: tralflot1832
          the goal in life is to move from sunny Murmansk, by the way, excellent people of Murmansk, to their historical homeland.
          Why did you write this?
          Quote: tralflot1832
          "the fifth column" by hook and by hook wants to get into the Kremlin to steer
          Want to get into the Kremlin? Already climbed in 1991 (or even a little earlier). And now he smears the Soviet period with might and main and builds Yeltsin centers. Will you argue? Forward.
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Belarus is an example of this. This is how Western technologies are being tested to change power.
          The change of power took place in the early 90s. Everything that is now is a continuation of that policy in one form or another.
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Nothing will come of it.
          "Nothing" is spelled together. And who has it with "us"?
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 20 September 2020 09: 11
    +6
    Uh ... Again, we are waiting for the next interim speech of the president, what will change everything?

    The rest is all familiar for a long time. The State Department is to blame for all the problems, and in the country everyone is for Putin and Only enemy agents are unhappy with everything ...

    Not a word about the rest ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 September 2020 10: 22
      +7
      another interim speech of the president
      from the rostrum of the UN, this person has already spit on the history of our country, it turns out that the USSR is to blame for all the troubles of the whole World

    2. tatra
      tatra 20 September 2020 11: 33
      0
      The communists were forgotten. It is on them that the enemies of the Communists have been blaming and responsible for the capture of Russia for 30 years and for what they did to the country and the people after the capture.
  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 20 September 2020 09: 15
    13
    Let's return to the problem of Lenin's body ...
    Alexander Staver: “Yesterday, in conversations with neighbors and acquaintances, I asked a simple question: how old would Lenin be today? The results are the most revealing. From“ yes go with that Lenin ”from a neighbor in the garage to“ who is Lenin ”from a boy - a schoolboy in the yard. At the same time, a fairly significant number of respondents do not care about this question. "

    Interestingly, what result did the Author expect among the respondents, after massive pouring of slops during 35 years of the Soviet system, from school programs to brainwashing by the Russian media? Even at the level of the Guarantor, the sufferers were poured into the ears of the worthlessness of the Soviet economy, which produced nothing but galoshes. belay This is the result of "universal efforts". Collage with V.I. Lenin, laid out by the author of the article, is indicative of this process. lol

    Whoever did this, huh? Indeed, before the arrival of the Tagged One, we just had stability and unity in the country. So what kind of stability and unity the author wanted to say in the conditions of state. building the exploitation of man by man? Unity on the terms of the war of 1812? Have you misguided the times, storytellers, of the idea of ​​"returning to the origins"?
    1. tatra
      tatra 20 September 2020 11: 38
      +2
      But all is not yet lost. These days, the patriots of their country and people repulsed another attack from the enemies of the history of Russia - after a wave of indignation arose against the moronic competition for the Mausoleum with the removal of Lenin's body, the organizers were afraid of general indignation and canceled the competition.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 20 September 2020 11: 49
        +4
        Quote: tatra
        and canceled the competition

        The competition was canceled, but not the very idea of ​​removing V. I. Lenin. That was immediately voiced by the court jester Zhirik.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 September 2020 17: 04
      -4
      Lenin is no longer interesting to anyone in fact, his era in our country has now passed the 21st century in the yard and the era of another society has changed priorities have changed and everything has changed in general. Symbols of past eras will never work in the present and the future - look for new ones.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 20 September 2020 17: 17
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Symbols of past eras will never work in the present and the future - look for new ones.

        If they do not work for you, you are looking for. For me, the works of V.I. Lenin are very relevant, as amended, for today.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 21 September 2020 00: 49
          -4
          And I don't need them to look for them - they are needed by people like you who live in yesterday and who are trying to drag the past into the future telling everyone tales about a socialist communist utopia - which never was and never will be because human egoism and greed move mountains and it was they who ultimately turned the USSR's neck because it is impossible to comb everyone under the same comb, all are different and will always be different, but everyone strives for a better life and everyone will have to fight for a place in the sun, since the resources and territory for this very rays of life will not be enough for the strongest the weak will be left behind and such an alignment will always be because the laws and structure of nature cannot be deceived and cannot be avoided.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 20 September 2020 09: 19
    -3
    Quote: lelik613
    Sell ​​them Yeltsin

    wassat good drinks yes
    As for Lenin, the remaining distant relatives of the Ulyanovs must decide. If they want to bury it, it will be right.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 September 2020 17: 06
      -1
      Considering that in the West they want to raise a billion to buy his body, his relatives will sell his body without hesitation.
  • Coconut
    Coconut 20 September 2020 09: 22
    -7
    Lenin's reaction to the demonstration of naked people: "Keep it up, comrades!"
    The first anniversary of the decrees was celebrated on a grand scale. On December 19, 1918, in support of the laws, a lesbian procession was organized in Petrograd. And in Moscow, absolutely naked demonstrators dared to walk right through Red Square, agitating passers-by to join them. Instead of clothes, they wore scarlet ribbons tied over their shoulders with provocative slogans "Down with shame!" Later, recalling these events, Leon Trotsky will tell about Lenin's positive reaction to what is happening at the walls of the Kremlin, which, upon the news of the rally, said approvingly: “Keep it up, comrades!
    For what I bought ...
  • Coconut
    Coconut 20 September 2020 09: 26
    -5
    At the III Congress of the RSDLP, held in 1905 in London, Leon Trotsky (the future organizer of the Red Army and one of the organizers of the October Revolution in Russia in 1917) was instructed to develop a new theory of gender relations in the event of a Bolshevik victory. Another organizer of the October Revolution of 1917 in Russia, Vladimir Lenin, wrote back in 1904 that "the emancipation of the spirit of sensuality, energy directed not at pseudo-family values, will help to throw out this clot on the cause of the victory of socialism."
    Che ran over ... hi
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 20 September 2020 13: 16
      +1
      Women in any society are a special question because they also think in terms of envy and rivalry at any cost. For example, an average official has a little wife, and she saw cute clothes on a passer-by (and she doesn’t care that it can be a foreigner and in her country it’s not possible to find such a thing), and she starts to endure her husband's brain, like you are in power and I wear rags , but Vasya quietly takes bribes and his wife is painted out of herself and the upper class contains a mistress, and you got it from salary to salary and got it with your future for people, you pay attention to me today. (At the same time, the lady herself, in terms of status and income, lives very well.) And what will this average honest, decent official do? -A-Hang, B.-How to take bribes. And everything, in fact, rests on the education of moderate material needs in the population. These problems are described very well in the novel by A. Khozin. Education and upbringing in the right way is the future of the state. What we educate today, we have such a country or have tomorrow.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 September 2020 09: 43
    +5
    They say, where is everyone else, when the Americans spend only on the maintenance of army dry closets ...

    Indeed, this is a horror-horror and "breaking the template" for a resident of a country in which 50 million people, in the absence of a centralized sewage system, poop into a hole in the floor, drag water in a bucket from a pump and drown with deadwood, which can already manifesto. Even though he doesn't know how much these stupid Americans are spending on toilet paper for their army!
  • DPN
    DPN 20 September 2020 09: 52
    +7
    It all depends on the native Muscovites, they must remember that thanks to LENIN, their city was not given to the Nazis in 1941. Another question ? and whether there are Muscovites, there are probably more people from the Caucasus and others, but they don't care.
    1. Andrey Stavropolsky
      Andrey Stavropolsky 20 September 2020 12: 04
      0
      What kind of shitty nonsense? Lenin did not give Moscow away, what kind of drugs are you smoking? Or will it not move away from the communist propaganda, which has been rubbed in since the 1st grade?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 20 September 2020 17: 29
      0
      "It all depends on the native Muscovites, they must remember that thanks to LENIN, their city was not given to the Nazis in 1941". Thanks to him and all these Bolshevik populist usurpers, Kaiser's Germany escaped with a slight fright in the war with the Russian Empire, which then allowed Hitler to come to power, who then - 41st arranged for our and not only people hell on earth for five years and Moscow was defended not thanks to Ulyanov in spite of us it was lucky that Japan did not attack the Far East, and if it attacked, the German troops would have taken Moscow with huge losses, but they would have taken it because there was almost nothing to defend it in a similar situation and all the reserve armies would have fought with the Japanese troops.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 20 September 2020 10: 06
    +8
    Lenin once warned - "Party arrogance will destroy the proletarian state." I think it will destroy any state. When party representatives turn into ordinary officials. Even if Lenin is buried, his works will live. Now work is underway to separate the personalities of Stalin and Lenin. Although Stalin was largely guided by the works of Lenin. There would have been no Lenin, there would have been no Stalin. Everything was determined by the Revolution of 1917. of the year.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 September 2020 10: 10
    +6
    The victory of socialism is inevitable as demobilization is inevitable. laughing
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 20 September 2020 10: 13
    +3
    The author is more careful with slogans.
    Nothing holds a nation together like an external enemy
    Isn't that the case in Russia?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 20 September 2020 10: 36
      -3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Isn't that the case in Russia?

      Why only in Russia? Look at how the people in the West were buzzed with the "Russian threat".
      I am interested in another question, what they, proposing to take out Lenin, started this noise ...
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 20 September 2020 10: 54
        +3
        Why only in Russia?
        I just wanted to say. that all rulers use this method.
        that they, proposing to take out Lenin, started under this noise ...
        Here I completely agree. lately, there has been so much fog ...
  • AleBors
    AleBors 20 September 2020 10: 25
    +2
    Nobody expects any speech. And what will he say? Whatever I say, no one will really listen. Is it not clear that we have long been no longer feared and respected?
    I don’t share the author’s opinion about something terrible in response to our downed plane. They just threatened with a finger under the table .. And then, what could threaten a country in which there has been no sovereignty for a long time?
    1. tatra
      tatra 20 September 2020 11: 44
      +8
      A state that does not respect its history, squeals to the whole world that it was ruled by criminals, cannibals and ghouls - no one in the world will respect it.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 20 September 2020 10: 39
    +1
    I understand that it is necessary to build a new ideology. But why we need to isolate ourselves, I don’t understand. Now that the country has become more powerful, voices are heard, they say we ourselves have a mustache. But to shave off this mustache, we use the usual "Vest". All budgets have been accumulated as a result of export. This is not a reproach. This is how many countries do. “We will not get away from the human factor.” This is the most important thing.
    1. Firelake
      Firelake 20 September 2020 11: 14
      +2
      The results of import substitution are deplorable. Why is that? Yes, everything is simple: did the honey reform fail? Go to the economy. At least one official answered yes to failures and failures? Rogozin alone is worth something ...
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 September 2020 12: 49
    +2
    The author's passage is about (stability), aha, like a cemetery, caused by the fact that many have something to lose is slightly incorrect. My clarification from the province of the deaf, yes now there is something to lose, it is true, but not a few, but a significant part of the population could have much more today if it were not for the irresponsibility of the authorities, the lack of control on the ground and the toothlessness of the federals in punishment for fully proven cases (this is me I judge in my town, where the documents with the mayor's swindles in Barnaul were brought to TV and highlighted and our mayor finally made debts for another year and left on a certificate that he was crazy). The population would have a lot more in material terms if the government did not deal with double standards - overlapping the export of capital, natural resource rent and much more. Questions to the authorities are simply above the roof for many, because people are not stupid and see that if the authorities allow themselves this, then this can and should be done, with general mistrust and allergy to any actions of our authorities. Because the authorities themselves are promoting the walk with their actions, with the words of the TV-set, and what are they counting on then? Yes, only to leave the room, and get out of the country on time, the money is first withdrawn there a priori. What to expect for the population - extinction, dumping from the country, collapse to the district cemeteries. Because it will be so stable in our cemetery as never before!
  • Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 20 September 2020 12: 55
    -8
    Putin plays for a long time, that he once said that "we will outplay them for a long time." And so it turns out - in November, the US civil war and disintegration. It is now March 1945, and there are 4 months left before the victory in World War 2

    Of course, all sorts of red-nosed scum and other sorts of liberals will scream about "fsёpropalo", but this is predictable. Fortunately, the peasants, traumatized for life, are dying out, and Russian society is becoming healthier.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 40
      +5
      Quote: Imperial Technocrat
      And so it turns out - in November, the US civil war and disintegration.

      Well, if so, the Anonymous Dubocrat himself said that undoubtedly it will be so. What else did the imperial dubocrats predict? They all have a dollar for 20 years, Russia is flourishing with an average salary of one hundred thousand rubles, pensions allow you to travel around the world. The union state with Belarus has been built. Have I forgotten anything?
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 35
    +5
    Staver for a small price is once again trying to hang noodles on his ears. But what is that ?? !! Again does not roll.
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 20 September 2020 17: 59
    +2
    Quote: AllXVahhaB
    Well, it means they sold some kind of La-5, which was issued for Kozhedubovsky ...

    The Americans are not very picky. In 1968, an American businessman bought the old London Bridge, thinking he was buying the Tower Bridge.
  • MBRSS
    MBRSS 20 September 2020 19: 17
    +2
    It won't be long to wait. Vladimir Putin's speech will be delivered ...

    Wait? Personally, I don't give a damn that it says yap, especially on international topics
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 20 September 2020 19: 40
    +2
    the world has not been waiting for speeches for a long time ... but for actions, and a guarantor, guarantees stability, but not dynamics, for it is weak. Kremlin inmates are well aware of their own impotence .... the question of burying Lenin's body is a political question, moreover, a sacred question. The acceptance of the concept of the 3rd Rome is still understandable ... but the return to the symbols of two lost empires is stupidity and idiocy. RFii needs to save itself, and let the world save itself ... if it can.
  • Nikza
    Nikza 21 September 2020 18: 09
    0
    Stability, you say, to shatter? Such stability?
    1. CSKA
      CSKA 22 September 2020 14: 42
      +1
      Quote: Nikza
      Stability, you say, to shatter? Such stability?

      )))) Do you know what "from" means? Is it hard with your brains to figure out that this is not the salary limit? And how much should they receive according to you? Million? In which country does a locksmith, turner or milling machine operator earn a lot? For your information, highly qualified specialists receive large salaries all over the world.
      1. lelik613
        lelik613 23 September 2020 20: 12
        0
        This plant is within 5 minutes walk and works from order to order. And in between, a simple ...
        So don't be jealous.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 September 2020 18: 33
      0
      This is the official salary - and no one will write to you unofficially, since it is unprofitable for the offices to pay increased taxes, so they indicate the minimum wage.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 22 September 2020 10: 55
    -1
    It seems from your bell tower that he is laughing. I am at the bottom and the picture is a little different. While the Russian bear is crying, but soon he will shut up and wipe the snot, and it is not clear what will do, or rather, the bear knows exactly what he will do, oh I don’t envy those who offended the bear!
  • YasenPen
    YasenPen 26 September 2020 12: 16
    +2
    [quote] The stability of the country has been achieved not so much with slogans and propaganda / quote] ...
    But this is exactly what, aftorr!
    [quote] ... how many by the fact that most people have something that they don't want to lose. / quote]
    ... well, straight from the Kremlin manual "Eating Russia - benefactors and protectors of the people's expression".
    I will not stop arguing that there is no people as such in Russia, the majority (> 80%) is the biomass of the Kremlin propaganda, a servile zombie electorate.
    "The hand does not rise" to call the population of the Russian Federation a people ...
  • zontov79
    zontov79 26 September 2020 20: 56
    +1
    We will not be raised by the fucking Anglo-Saxons, but by the enemies of the people in power !! How do you like the increase in electricity tariffs ?? Zero again, nothing to do with?