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"Mysterious helicopters": the coloring of the Mi-171Sh attack helicopters for China raised questions in the US press

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An article was released in the American media, which tells about the supply of helicopters from Russia to China. Specifically, we are talking about the supply of Mi-171Sh rotorcraft from the Ulan-Ude plant for the People's Liberation Army of China.


In The Drive edition, Mi-171SH helicopters are called "mysterious". What did the American author see as “mysterious” in the assault modification of the Mi-8AMTSh helicopter, which has been in operation for more than 10 years?

As it turned out, the American journalist was "concerned" about the coloring of Russian helicopters for China, it was she who raised questions. He explains his focus on this technique as follows:

Subtle markings and a "tactical" light gray color scheme suggest that a new batch of helicopters may have been acquired to fulfill any role in support of the PLA's special operations forces or Combat Search and Rescue (CSAR) operations. Army helicopters aviation PLA are usually painted dark green or green with a yellowish brown disguise.

At the same time, it is suggested that a new batch of helicopters could be purchased for the PLA Navy (PLA Marine Corps), but it is added that "there are no signs of a naval modification of these helicopters."

From the material:

Earlier it was assumed that the Type 071 amphibious transport ship and the new Type 075 UDC will be equipped with Chinese-made helicopters.

In the same material, another assumption is made. In particular, it is said that the coloring of helicopters for China may be due to the fact that the command is going to send the rotary-wing aircraft to the disputed region of Ladakh - to the border with India. There, in high altitude conditions, it is believed that a gray coloration might be suitable for camouflage reasons.

TV report of China from the plant in Ulan-Ude:

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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 19 September 2020 08: 44
    -1
    Well, judging by the title of the article and the photo, the Americans thought that our stealth helicopter was made for China. lol In the southern latitudes, over the sea, it's not very much to fly without toning if that wink
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 19 September 2020 08: 44
    45
    People are racking their heads over this garbage. And for me, such a factory paint is something like a primer or base, and the customer himself will paint each side as he needs.
    1. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 19 September 2020 08: 57
      +9
      Why didn't they report? Why didn't you ask Trump? Why are they headstrong?
    2. Reviews
      Reviews 19 September 2020 09: 49
      +7
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      for me, such a factory paint is something like a primer or base

      I have never seen a gray primer in aviation. Either yellow (with us) or green (in most cases around the world).
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 19 September 2020 10: 05
        +6
        Quote: Avis
        I have never seen a gray primer in aviation. Either yellow (with us) or green (in most cases around the world).

        Sergey, I will not argue with you in matters of aircraft painting, as well as in general on many issues .. knowledge is not enough. But from the experience of a builder in the civilian part of my life I will say. For high-quality painting of metal surfaces, it is necessary to carry the soil on the metal cleaned of oxides, then a base layer of paint of neutral tones (gray, by the way, is one of the most neutral) and composition of the same or compatible with the final paint, and then apply the front layer. Then the painted surface will last a long time and reliably. I repeat, I didn't paint planes, but I think the main points of the technology are similar. hi
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 19 September 2020 10: 56
          0
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          Quote: Avis
          I have never seen a gray primer in aviation. Either yellow (with us) or green (in most cases around the world).

          then a base coat of neutral paint

          I think the main points of the technology are similar. hi

          There's no such thing. There is no point in such a layer other than the aesthetic one. Primer + base paint. All. Well, another applique, but it's completely different already.
        2. dauria
          dauria 19 September 2020 22: 05
          +1
          I repeat, I didn't paint planes, but I think the main points of the technology are similar

          I saw how the Mi-24 was painted. In Arseniev. Shop next to LIS. School gym size, tiled floor with water grooves. The hood is powerful. A pair of women in raincoats, respirators and glasses. Conventional hand-held spray guns. The inside is already painted and completely stuffed. Usually we were only asked for the tail number and its color. Once (on New Year's Eve) they had to close the plan - they were asked to accept and fly around the primed one. The color is yellowish, the seams stood out.
          Usually nitro enamel shines like a mirror for a couple of weeks. Once I got an "experimental" one with rough matte paint. It absorbed dirt and dust like a sponge. We were not particularly educated why.
    3. Lelik76
      Lelik76 19 September 2020 12: 46
      +3
      The factory painting is the same as the scheme given by the Customer of the equipment. We agree on a paint scheme for all foreign customers and paint in accordance with it. There was a moment, the caps on the wheels were standardly painted with green paint, they did not like it when they were handed over to the representatives of one Muslim country (well, there the color of the flag coincided with you - the wheels were in this color). They repainted urgently (just in the color scheme of the entire product, this detail was not particularly noted).
  3. Finches
    Finches 19 September 2020 08: 45
    +9
    Surprisingly, against the background of articles and comments, all-footed people, it turns out that Russia even produces helicopters and supplies them to China ... But we have no industry, total devastation and zeroing! Really strange! laughing
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    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 19 September 2020 08: 57
      +3
      Russia even produces helicopters and supplies them to China ...

      Russia has been doing this for 30 years. The Mi-8/17 to this day is the backbone of the PLA army aviation.
    3. Reviews
      Reviews 19 September 2020 08: 58
      +6
      Quote: Finches
      Surprisingly, against the background of articles and comments, all-footed people, it turns out that Russia even produces helicopters and supplies them to China ... But we have no industry, total devastation and zeroing! Really strange! laughing



      We still have industry, we do not have an industry. Post-sale is some kind of enchanted concept for our aircraft dealers regardless of generation. We ourselves drove the same sous-jet due to the fact that, for example, the Mexicans had them idle for weeks for spare parts. Tu-204 (inside the Russian Federation!) Could stand for months. Mainly because of the PS-90. This is from observations of the Red Wings from the period 2009-14.
    4. donavi49
      donavi49 19 September 2020 10: 32
      +4
      Ulan-Ude has been producing 70-90 helicopters a year for a very long time. Everything is bad in Kazan. They brought their version of the Mi-8 to a non-competitive state. As a result, there are no buyers - the output dropped to 10-20 per year.

      In general, for BP, the downtrend is clear in terms of the number - 169 helicopters are now against 303 in 2013.
      Russian Helicopters holding (a subsidiary of Oboronprom, a subsidiary of Rostec State Corporation) manufactured 2013 helicopters for Russian and foreign customers in 303.
  4. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 19 September 2020 09: 34
    +4
    an ordinary blogger sits (here every hemp of sandalwood is called an expert) and reflects on the artistic delights of painting ... and all this is now news for VO ... well, that's why ???
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 September 2020 09: 37
    0
    How long will it take to repaint? Sucking the news out of thin air ... specs (and color) were probably approved years ago ...
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 19 September 2020 10: 27
    +1

    Yes, it looks like an American one. So they come up with a headache, why would China need it?
  7. eleronn
    eleronn 19 September 2020 11: 52
    0
    Already got to the bottom of the color! Soon the font with which the Mi-171Sh is written on board will become the subject of a "serious" investigation.
  8. Evil 55
    Evil 55 19 September 2020 12: 46
    +1
    It is foolish to photograph a helicopter in a dirt coat and try to build versions and assumptions around it.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 19 September 2020 19: 42
      +2
      Quote: Evil 55
      It is foolish to photograph a helicopter in a dirt coat and try to build versions and assumptions around it.

      Since when has the type designation been applied to the ground?
  9. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 19 September 2020 14: 40
    0
    This is called "presex @ tsya" ... The scared crow is afraid of the bush ...
  10. Vitas
    Vitas 19 September 2020 15: 33
    0
    But I noticed something else. The interview with the director of the plant was conducted without dubbing, only subtitles. Looks like they learn the language of the probable well about ... companion.
  11. Thecubel21
    Thecubel21 19 September 2020 19: 16
    0
    What a difficult Chinese language, however. I'm listening to listening to what she says. I don't understand the speech. The same monotonous sounds. As if repeating three words.
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 19 September 2020 19: 43
      -1
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B8_%D0%A8%D0%B8_%D1%88%D0%B8_%D1%88%D0%B8_%D1%88%D0%B8
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 September 2020 20: 34
    -1
    Why should he be painted like a red dragon?
  13. u123uuu
    u123uuu 19 September 2020 22: 58
    0
    It's just a primer, go for painting))
  14. And why do you need
    And why do you need 20 September 2020 03: 47
    -1
    The usual color, at KnAAPO in this color Su 30mkk for China was painted.
  15. Alien From
    Alien From 20 September 2020 15: 02
    0
    Their long noses poke into all the cracks.
  16. Livonetc
    Livonetc 20 September 2020 15: 39
    0
    Another tension around Taiwan.
    So they pay attention.
  17. Ramadan
    Ramadan 20 September 2020 19: 16
    0
    Plain American paranoia