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Roskosmos will change the look of a super-heavy rocket for flights to the Moon

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Roskosmos will change the look of a super-heavy rocket for flights to the Moon

Roskosmos has decided to change the face of the new Russian super-heavy carrier rocket Yenisei. This was reported by the press service of the state corporation.


As explained, a change in the appearance of the rocket will be made this year, the results of the technical project will complement the preliminary design of the rocket, developed last year. In particular, a possible change in appearance will affect the central block of the rocket, which is proposed to be lengthened.

According to the results of the technical project in terms of the appearance of the super-heavy class space rocket complex, its ground space infrastructure and production facilities for its components, adjustments will be made to the tactical and technical tasks for the creation of a super-heavy class space rocket complex

- said in a statement.

As Rogozin previously said, the new rocket will be assembled according to the principle of a designer from ready-made elements that are independent products. The start of flight design tests of the Russian superheavy rocket is scheduled for 2028, and a launch pad will be built for the rocket at the Vostochny spaceport.

The declared missile carrying capacity is 88 tons, it will be able to provide the launch of a manned transport ship weighing 20 tons into the polar near-moon orbit. It is supposed to use the Yenisei for flights to the moon, including for the delivery of astronauts to the earth's satellite.
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  1. hrych
    hrych 18 September 2020 09: 55
    0
    Everything is already clear, under the atomic planetary craft will now be customized. In general, the Union will probably lengthen the last step and hello.

    At least Proton can clearly handle it. To know, of course, the mass of the planetary spacecraft. And rightly so, it makes no sense to fence a gigantic booster on earth when the apparatus itself will accelerate to the second space and beyond.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 18 September 2020 09: 58
      +1
      I do not understand.
      Now they bury the lunar program, then new movements.
      Is there any officially approved and published program?
      1. venik
        venik 18 September 2020 10: 06
        14
        Quote: Livonetc
        Is there any officially approved and published program?

        =========
        There is no program ..... But there is another chatter of Rogozin!
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 18 September 2020 12: 08
          +2
          Quote: venik
          Quote: Livonetc
          Is there any officially approved and published program?

          =========
          There is no program ..... But there is another chatter of Rogozin!

          Rogozin has been gushing all sorts of plans and ideas lately. Apparently the money is running out.
          1. venik
            venik 18 September 2020 13: 51
            -3
            Quote: Piramidon
            Rogozin has been gushing all sorts of plans and ideas lately. Apparently the money is running out.

            =========
            What else can you expect from journalist (by education) and philosopher (by academic degree)? And those and others (in the sense of both journalists and philosophers) - such a service! As with political officers: Order "Clean workplace!" - means "shut your mouth"!!! drinks
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 18 September 2020 16: 29
              0
              Quote: venik
              And what else can you expect from a journalist (by education) and a philosopher (by an academic degree)?

              I could argue with you about education (Stalin was a half-educated priest, Peter I was engaged in self-education in general ...) But this does not prevent talented people from occupying high positions and influencing processes within the country
              1. Dimy4
                Dimy4 18 September 2020 20: 01
                +1
                But this does not prevent talented people from holding high positions and influencing processes within the country.

                The key word is talented!
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 18 September 2020 20: 15
                  +3
                  Quote: Dimy4
                  But this does not prevent talented people from holding high positions and influencing processes within the country.

                  The key word is talented!

                  I do not think that in Russia with talents "FSE". She was always rich in them. But how to get them into the upper echelons is an open question.
                  1. mlad
                    mlad 19 September 2020 08: 43
                    0
                    All talents have gone into business, you won't earn a lot of money in state structures
                2. Filxnumx
                  Filxnumx 18 September 2020 21: 08
                  +1
                  Your confidence suggests that you know a lot of talented people endowed with state power. So, talent in the studio! (already warm my palms for applause) fellow
              2. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 22 September 2020 11: 03
                0
                But this does not prevent talented people from holding high positions and influencing processes within the country.
                Alas, colleague. This is not the case. In general, I agree with the previous speaker, all this for the sake of drinking. And we can dream better than Rogozin!
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 18 September 2020 14: 37
          +1
          Quote: venik
          There is no program ..... But there is another chatter of Rogozin!

          Quote: Piramidon
          Rogozin has been gushing all sorts of plans and ideas lately. Apparently the money is running out.

          You shouldn't be like that. Here's a cool idea:
          As Rogozin said earlier, the new rocket will be assembled according to the principle of a designer from ready-made elements that are independent products.

          I copied it from myself. The head of Roscosmos is assembled according to the type of constructor: journalism education + economics on the basis of the University of Marxism-Leninism + PhD in Philosophy + Doctor of Technical Sciences (specifics not specified) + statesman + organizer of the defense industry and military science + diplomat = head of Roscosmos !!! In this constructor, it was not possible to put the head in place and put your hands in the right place ... So they grow from ...
          And so it is everywhere in Russia. Wherever you stick, either you will run into a doctor of technical sciences, or a lawyer with a diploma, or some HSE graduate.
          And they are not accustomed to work. They plan and plot everything. And we wonder why weeds and thistles grow on such a messy soil.
          Today, you can take some well-known in small circles "EDRA" (or a party close in spirit ... even the opposition) leader and say:
          "HERE IS HE - THE SAVIOR, THE HOPE AND THE FUTURE OF RUSSIA"?
      2. hrych
        hrych 18 September 2020 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Livonetc
        then new movements

        A megawatt class nuclear power plant appeared compact, so interplanetary flights became a reality, ion engines became efficient. Therefore, we are talking about installation in orbit, a trailer to the planetary spacecraft of satellites and descent vehicles in orbit. And then the donkey himself to the Moon, Venus and Jupiter. And of course the Moon is first in line. There, hanging ... and mocking. laughing
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      3. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 18 September 2020 11: 01
        +1
        Is there any officially approved and published program?

        There is. Already the third in the post-Soviet period.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 18 September 2020 11: 22
          +4
          Quote: Jurkovs
          Already the third in the post-Soviet period.

          I wonder if you managed to master the money for each of the three?
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 12
            +2
            I wonder if you managed to master the money for each of the three?

            Colleague, welcome! hi
            How can you doubt the capabilities of Raspilkosmos and its main contractor?

            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 18 September 2020 17: 28
              +3
              Quote: lexus
              How can you doubt the capabilities of Raspilkosmos and its main contractor?

              Hello Kamrad. Some kind of sad cartoons come out. At this rate, we will soon unsuccessfully try to catch up and overtake Guinea-Bissau.
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 32
                +5
                Yes, in general, sane and sober-minded people are not funny for a long time.
      4. slipped
        slipped 18 September 2020 11: 49
        +2
        Quote: Livonetc
        I do not understand.
        Now they bury the lunar program, then new movements.
        Is there any officially approved and published program?


        Of course, the Federal Space Program https://www.roscosmos.ru/22347/
    2. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 18 September 2020 10: 05
      -6
      under the atomic planetary spacecraft will now be adjusted

      In fact, the planetary spacecraft will look like this.
      1. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 18 September 2020 12: 39
        +3
        And fly to Jupiter. Why waste your time on little things like the Moon? No.
        The state corporation "Roscosmos" considers the natural satellite of the planet Jupiter Callisto as the most promising place for the third inhabited base after the Moon and Mars. fellow

        "Callisto is the third place in the solar system, where, in the opinion of the scientific community, it is most expedient to organize a base for humans after the Moon and Mars," said Alexander Bloshenko, executive director of Roscosmos for promising programs and science, to TASS.
    3. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 18 September 2020 10: 06
      -4
      You have not seen the Ukrainian lunar program yet. Infographics with the stages of the exploration of the Moon by Ukraine at the link below.
      Ukrainian lunar program

      Let's build a lunar station and then fly to Mars. Ukrainian designers announced the possibility of launching a manned space flight program. In the near future - the creation of a lunar station, and in the long term - flights to the fiery Mars.

      https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5f425851e69d47622e41e4fe/ukrainskaia-lunnaia-programma-5f47cd8ce0f8444dc74a45bf
      1. Roman13579
        Roman13579 18 September 2020 12: 12
        +1
        You can immediately see that we are brothers ..))
    4. astepanov
      astepanov 18 September 2020 11: 12
      -3
      Quote: hrych
      Everything is already clear, under the atomic planetary craft will now be customized.

      To be honest, the idea of ​​an atomic planetary spacecraft begins to cause me doubts from the moment I began to count. In any case, it seems to take longer to reach planets than chemical-fueled rockets, and many times longer. And as a carrier of a manned spacecraft, he seems completely absurd. I'm preparing an article for discussion - maybe I'm wrong and there will be more savvy people who will dispel doubts.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 18 September 2020 11: 47
        -3
        Here is a link to a document that will help you in the article
        http://engjournal.ru/articles/1889/1889.pdf
        1. Alexey Sommer
          Alexey Sommer 18 September 2020 14: 23
          +1
          Of course, the authors of this report are apparently venerable and prominent engineers, but the mass of the payload and the speed of its delivery contradict everything that I previously knew about the essence of ion engines. Those. the speed of delivery in the first place does not seem to be a big advantage of ion engines over today's chemical ones, judging by the table given in the article.
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 18 September 2020 14: 54
            -3
            The flight speed of ion thrusters can only be advantageous on very very very long flights. For example between the stars.
            Ion engines, and in general all EJEs, are distinguished by very low thrust, very high energy consumption and low fuel consumption. Ie high UI
            Thus, to get the same acceleration that a chemical jet engine gives in seconds of operation, they need many days.
            Also, even though ion engines consume little fuel, they need a very powerful source of energy, which means he needs to carry a very massive device with him, which greatly neglects the decrease in the mass of the fuel tank.
    5. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 18 September 2020 12: 11
      -1
      > To know of course the mass of the planetary spacecraft

      two 0.5 each, take care of the liver
    6. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 12: 55
      +2
      Quote: hrych
      In general, the Union will probably lengthen the last step and hello.


      No. At Soyuz-2, on the contrary, for launching into a sun-synchronous orbit, the currently used upper stage Fregat will be removed by throttling the third stage engine, thereby reducing the cost of launching a commercial payload several times.

      Quote: hrych
      At least Proton can clearly handle it.


      All new payloads, except for several vehicles in a high degree of factory readiness, are already being created under the Angara launch vehicle.

      Quote: hrych
      And rightly so, it makes no sense to fence a gigantic booster on earth when the apparatus itself will accelerate to the second space and beyond.


      The nuclear tug is an unmanned truck. KRK STK will be created for a manned program
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 18 September 2020 13: 43
        +3
        Roskosmos will change the look of a super-heavy rocket for flights to the Moon
        change the journalist to the Scientist, and everything will fall into place.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 18 September 2020 09: 58
    +6
    All the news related to Roscosmos is surprising. Maybe it's time for them to present something material, and not plans?
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 18 September 2020 10: 37
      +5
      Corrections based on the results of draft and technical designs routine working procedure
      1. 210ox
        210ox 18 September 2020 16: 29
        0
        Routine is related to work. But here it is just a voice of what may not yet happen. Roscosmos, you know.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 18 September 2020 09: 58
    +2
    Roskosmos has decided to change the face of the new Russian super-heavy carrier rocket Yenisei. This was reported by the press service of the state corporation.

    Are they talking about WHAT? The rocket does not look like feng shui?
    As Rogozin said earlier, the new rocket will be assembled according to

    Well, a storyteller, a great friend of trampoline sports ... what else to say about him ???
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 18 September 2020 10: 41
      +1
      "Change appearance"? Well, will it really look like a big trampoline? Finally! And you say the dude does not hold his words. wink
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 20
        +4
        Well, will it really look like a big trampoline?

        hi Don't even dream! "These" always get what their "hands are sharpened" for.
  4. SAG
    SAG 18 September 2020 10: 00
    +2

    The declared payload of the rocket is 88 tons

    They want when they can fellow
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 September 2020 10: 03
      +7
      But can only when they want?
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 24
        +3
        They always want, but they can only bring money "into new orbits".
    2. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 11: 57
      +4
      Quote: SAG

      The declared payload of the rocket is 88 tons

      They want when they can fellow


      This is incorrect data. KRK STK has a lifting capacity of 103 tons.

    3. Curt
      Curt 18 September 2020 12: 12
      +3
      Better return the energy. There was 100 tons of carrying capacity
    4. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 18 September 2020 12: 53
      -1
      What can they do? Draw sketches? Their art is expensive.
  5. Avior
    Avior 18 September 2020 10: 01
    -1
    As Rogozin said earlier, the new rocket will be assembled

    will be assembled for five years longer, because it was extended.
    And there they will also add with a shift of the dates to the right.
    1. Roman13579
      Roman13579 18 September 2020 12: 14
      0
      There, then, it will be necessary to shorten it ..))
  6. Beringovsky
    Beringovsky 18 September 2020 10: 01
    +4
    The start of flight design tests of the Russian super-heavy rocket is scheduled for 2028; a launch pad will be built for the rocket at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

    In general, as always, promises of great victories. But in the distant future. And then how to do it, but to do it as always - the deadline will be postponed.
    But money ahead!
  7. Alvis07
    Alvis07 18 September 2020 10: 01
    -4
    If there is a lengthening of the rocket, most likely, it will already be necessary to paint it with Khokhloma, because Gzhel looks more organic on compact structures.
    1. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 18 September 2020 10: 07
      -1
      it will already be necessary to paint it with Khokhloma, because Gzhel looks more organic on compact structures

      I don't think it matters. The most important thing is to consecrate with holy water.
      1. Alvis07
        Alvis07 18 September 2020 10: 08
        -6
        I agree, how could I have missed this important point!
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 18 September 2020 12: 03
          +1
          Quote: Alvis07
          how could I have missed this important point!
          Now sprinkling for each start will be very relevant (even better, a prayer service), against the background of general reductions, optimizations and deflection in education and science in the country.
          1. Pashhenko Nikolay
            Pashhenko Nikolay 18 September 2020 12: 56
            -1
            I wonder if they sprinkle Roscosmos for free? And then a relative just got married to six mowers. A stupid person, what can I say. Another word does not let the filter.
            1. Per se.
              Per se. 18 September 2020 13: 34
              0
              Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
              here a relative just got married to six mowers
              The priests now have a dachshund for everything. Probably, soon "cognac" stars on the "holy water" will start to be put, depending on the amount of consecration. Also, I wonder, these mercantile money-grubbers in robes, do they themselves believe in God? ...
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 29
                +8
                The priests now have a dachshund for everything. Probably, soon "cognac" stars on the "holy water" will start to be put, depending on the amount of consecration.

                hi Somewhere I saw data that painting one rocket costs "Sawpilkosmos" 170 thousand rubles. According to the price list. With such success it was possible to fill it with "Kahor".
  8. Maxim364364
    Maxim364364 18 September 2020 10: 03
    -3
    With the arrival of Rogozin, the expression earth has the form of a chumadan sparkled with new colors.
  9. SOVIET UNION 2
    SOVIET UNION 2 18 September 2020 10: 03
    -2
    Musk's trampolines are actually flying today. And what is flying at Roscosmos today? Well stern fantasies! Are our rockets already flying to the Moon and plowing its expanses? And tomorrow they will easily send a team of astronauts to the moon ?!
    1. Petrograd
      Petrograd 18 September 2020 10: 12
      -2
      Yeah, but where will they take the brigade or the Russian land has not become scarce even for Dzhamshuts and Ravshans No.
    2. ultra
      ultra 18 September 2020 11: 16
      0
      In fact, Soviet developments are flying and let them fly further, this is normal, one should not scatter already small resources, but concentrate on really breakthrough areas.
      1. SOVIET UNION 2
        SOVIET UNION 2 18 September 2020 14: 11
        +2
        concentrate on really breakthrough directions
        And where did you break through in 30 years?
    3. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 12: 09
      +2
      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      Musk's trampolines are actually flying today. And what is flying at Roscosmos today?


      Well, this astronaut was launched with a trampoline, he has been flying there for several months laughing



      and another trampoline is being prepared for another lol



      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      Well stern fantasies! Are our rockets already flying to the Moon and plowing its expanses?


      Our rockets have been flying for a long time behind The moon laughing



      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      And tomorrow they will easily send a team of astronauts to the moon ?!


      No, in October next year, the launch of the automatic station "Luna-25".
    4. Disant
      Disant 18 September 2020 12: 21
      +2
      SovetskiySoyuz2, where will your American trampoline from Musk rise above 400 km then?
      Nowhere.
      And the Americans spent 10 years on development to once again learn to lift a person into orbit, and even in beautiful rubber boots. Moreover, there is only one launch, at the end of the landing, the poisonous vapors went off, the cosmonauts were barely pulled out.
      You can't land on solid ground and it's scary - there is no admission. Only into the water.
      So the Americans still have to work and work. The trampoline is not ready.
  10. Legionista
    Legionista 18 September 2020 10: 04
    -1
    The start of flight design tests of the Russian super-heavy rocket is scheduled for 2028; a launch pad will be built for the rocket at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

    in 2028 Rogozin will be 65 years old. Hope he retires laughing
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 18 September 2020 10: 41
      -1
      Do you think this will save the space industry?
  11. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 18 September 2020 10: 05
    0
    Recently, only a nerve rises from all the news from Roscosmos
    1. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 12: 23
      0
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Recently, only a nerve rises from all the news from Roscosmos


      Drink pills, validolchik laughing and do not read RIA news, it all turned yellow there
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 18 September 2020 12: 30
        0
        Quote: slipped
        Drink pills, validolchik

        Better than a home product, a hundred and a half grams.
  12. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 18 September 2020 10: 06
    -1
    Rogozin is like an artist. He gets smoked, goes away for a smoke, thinks. Will return to the easel, and the shadows have moved, it is necessary to redraw. And even the trouble is when you can't draw.
    But it is expensive to maintain this montage.
  13. al3x
    al3x 18 September 2020 10: 13
    -3
    Seeing the name of science fiction writer R. in the article, you can finish reading.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 18 September 2020 10: 43
      -2
      Something quiet about the previously promoted, wherever possible and impossible, such as "Leonov's engine" ...
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 34
        +4
        Something silence about the previously promoted

        According to the established tradition, it has lost its relevance due to the fact that it was "successfully sawn".
  14. Glenni
    Glenni 18 September 2020 10: 17
    +1
    Isn't it cheaper to catch a UFO and ask to throw it up to the moon? Look how many of them fly, even during the day!
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 18 September 2020 11: 12
      +1
      "Even during the day" do you have UFOs flying? You this .... tie up with the "Newbie" ... yes
    2. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 18 September 2020 12: 33
      -1
      Quote: Glenni
      Isn't it cheaper to catch a UFO and ask to throw it up to the moon? Look how many of them fly, even during the day!

      If you ask them to throw Rogozin there, then I’m behind two hands. fellow
  15. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 18 September 2020 10: 17
    +6
    Forgive us Marty
  16. gridasov
    gridasov 18 September 2020 10: 29
    -1
    The creation of effective heavy missiles is possible only on the basis of working with the principles of increasing the energy density in the engines, but no matter how in changing the appearance of the rocket.
    1. ultra
      ultra 18 September 2020 11: 20
      +2
      Quote: gridasov
      principles of increasing energy density

      What energy density (ideal gas, elastic body, photon gas ...) are you going to increase? laughing
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 18 September 2020 13: 59
        0
        Irony is in vain! The fact is that a dipole material structure as an elementary particle consists of dynamic magnetic fluxes, including rotating magnetic fluxes, etc. But energy as a concept and essence of the phenomenon is nothing more than the space formed between these magnetic dipole fluxes. Therefore, any movable systems, including plasma, have an analogy that is exactly comparable to the dipole structure of matter. By the way, a natural series of numbers is also tied to this, so that the information description corresponds to the possibility of an optimal description of the process. And therefore the energy density is nothing more than that elementary geometric space as an effect between always dynamic magnetic fluxes and this space itself is always a derivative. In general, in simple terms, the more intense the binary processes of magnetic interacting flows, the higher the energy density, which means there are several methods for increasing these parameters of the fuel as an energy source. Therefore, the search for a finished material with a high energy density is a search for a completely unstable substance. This means that you need to organize the process in such a way that the transformation rate of this substance is as high as possible. And this is not a very difficult task.
  17. Diviz
    Diviz 18 September 2020 10: 52
    -2
    Do not sculpt the main flag of mattress mats on the rocket.
  18. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 18 September 2020 11: 09
    -3
    Roskosmos will change the look of a super-heavy rocket for flights to the Moon

    And this is not the first time, and I think it will not be the last.
    ... the new rocket will be assembled according to the principle of a constructor from ready-made elements that are independent products

    Big greetings from the Khruniks. First, it became known about the non-interchangeability of the central and lateral URMs. Now we know. that side URMs cannot be used separately. That is, the side block cannot be used as a light Hangara-A1.2. The same is in store for Yenisei, because the idea either has not matured or is fundamentally flawed.
    1. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: Jurkovs
      That is, the side block cannot be used as a light Hangara-A1.2.


      This will be possible in a serial product with unification. A1.2 apart from the URM also has an aggregate module.
      1. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 19 September 2020 12: 24
        -1
        Quote: slipped
        This will be possible in a serial product with unification.

        Will be gone.
        1. slipped
          slipped 19 September 2020 13: 26
          0
          Will be. Serialized since 2023.
  19. Alien From
    Alien From 18 September 2020 11: 10
    -1
    What a week Rogozin ... ... and pours out phrases of a science fiction writer ...
  20. for
    for 18 September 2020 11: 11
    +1
    Rockets from Yudashkin and Zverev.
  21. K-50
    K-50 18 September 2020 11: 15
    0
    When you, damn it, decide on something !!! And you will not constantly "improve" !!!!!!
    Do something good at last !! How much can you experiment for our money !!!
  22. Dikson
    Dikson 18 September 2020 11: 26
    -2
    ... Phew ... I felt relieved straight from my heart after reading the article .. I, as a sinful thing, thought that they would start building something similar to Elon Musk's rocket ..., from the illustrations for the book "Dunno on the Moon" ... according to the old Soviet scheme, it turns out: "let's reduce the apparatus - lengthen the coil!" ...
  23. yfast
    yfast 18 September 2020 11: 27
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    All the news related to Roscosmos is surprising. Maybe it's time for them to present something material, and not plans?

    Accusations?
  24. strelokmira
    strelokmira 18 September 2020 11: 43
    +1
    As Rogozin said earlier, the new rocket will be assembled according to the principle of a designer from ready-made elements that are independent products. A launch pad will be built for the rocket at the Vostochny cosmodrome.

    I have already heard something similar, a super-heavy launch vehicle, a modular design, will be launched from Vostochny. Deja vu
    1. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 12: 17
      +2
      Quote: strelokmira
      I have already heard something similar, a super-heavy launch vehicle, a modular design, will be launched from Vostochny. Deja vu


      This was the plant's proposal for a large line of Angara missiles. Ultimately, contracts were concluded for the production of A1.2, A5, A5M (P), A5V
  25. Undecim
    Undecim 18 September 2020 11: 49
    +4
    Roscosmos decided to change its appearance
    One can immediately feel the handwriting of a modern amateur cracker, removed from the understanding of the described issues for light years.
    Why should a rocket change its "appearance", that is, appearance? The appearance of a rocket is a derivative of its design, created according to certain criteria. Therefore, a woman's appearance can be changed with the help of Botox, while the design of technical products changes.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 41
      +5
      hi So "Raspilkosmos" does not go further than appearances on "propaganda" - money "evaporates".
  26. nnm
    nnm 18 September 2020 12: 06
    +4
    I propose not to waste time on trifles with statements, but to move on to large-scale wishes:
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 18 September 2020 17: 48
      +5
      I propose not to waste time on trifles with statements, but to move on to large-scale wishes:


  27. Roman13579
    Roman13579 18 September 2020 12: 10
    -1
    There is no rocket, but we change the look ..))
    1. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 12: 25
      +1
      Quote: Roman13579
      There is no rocket, but we change the look ..))


      The design work is in progress. The hydrogen stage can be increased in size for the new payload.
  28. Hog
    Hog 18 September 2020 12: 42
    0
    They decided to redraw the picture, well done, you can see the work is in full swing.
    1. slipped
      slipped 18 September 2020 12: 59
      +3
      Quote: Hog
      They decided to redraw the picture, well done, you can see the work is in full swing.


      Yes, they also buy new domestic welding machines, just for friction welding of STK modules

  29. Diviz
    Diviz 18 September 2020 13: 30
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    Meanwhile, in China ... The city of Kitomars appeared. And everything is there for people. Well that is people are Chinese because there is no one on Mars except Chinese people.
  30. O. Bender
    O. Bender 18 September 2020 15: 24
    +1
    I thought there would be new bumpers and spoilers ... but that's what it is!
  31. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 18 September 2020 21: 19
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    Quote: Piramidon
    how to get them to the upper echelons,

    The question is not HOW to get through. Here, everything is more or less worked out: gather a team for yourself and blow into power. The whole difficulty is how to gather talented and gifted and unite them into a team of like-minded people (not to be confused with a team of loyal subjects). Because this process is long, complex and largely relies only on chance ..