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"We knew in advance what and where to get it" - political scientist Markov about the actions of Navalny's associates in a hotel room

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The version of the attempt by the Russian special services on the opposition leader Alexei Navalny with the help of the Novichok chemical warfare agent has been falsified. It falls apart before our eyes, if you start to reason logically.


Russian political scientist and public figure Sergei Markov wrote about this on his Facebook page last night.

He believes that the picture described by Navalny's supporters contradicts basic common sense and raises many questions. Particularly suspicious is the fact that the oppositionist's comrades-in-arms managed to take things from the oppositionist's room with traces of poison.

It is not clear how the professionals from the Russian special services, who allegedly poisoned Navalny, could leave all the evidence against themselves in place, although there was enough time to destroy the traces.

Even if the "special agents" were negligent, the maid should have thrown the bottle with traces of the poison, or the police would have taken it. But for some reason they didn't.

Navalny's associates took a bottle from the room containing the most dangerous poison, but none of them suffered from poisoning. It also looks extremely strange. At the same time, they took the evidence in order to pass it on to German doctors even when there was no talk of transporting him to Germany, and there was still no information about his state of health. And for some reason they decided to take the bottle from the room as evidence, and not the things from the oppositionist's car or from the place where he bathed. As if they knew in advance what and where to take.

Based on the above facts, Sergey Markov concludes that the evidence was taken by people involved in the poisoning in order to falsify the guilt of the Russian authorities:

It is clear from all this that the version of the poisoning of Navalny by "Novichok" by the Russian special services is an outright lie. It can only be supported by those who hate Putin and the Russian government so much that they are ready to support any lie and any falsification, only to harm the Kremlin.
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  1. Alvis07
    Alvis07 18 September 2020 10: 06
    +7
    Indeed, there are many questions in this case. After all, no one thinks that not a single special service would risk so much on the territory of its country as to endanger ordinary, uninvolved citizens. And even if it were such an attack, the special services would be able to do everything so that it was secret. Just don't mention Ryazan sugar with a hexogen flavor, then it was just a civil defense exercise.
    1. dauria
      dauria 18 September 2020 10: 16
      13
      After all, no one thinks that not a single special service would take such a risk on the territory of their country,


      What are the special services? It's absurd if there are such special services in the country. Calculation only for information noise. "Russians are animals" will remain in the head of the average man. And what a small number of thinking people will shrug their shoulders - do not care.
      Special services - I will sell a cheap jar of pickled honey agarics with the addition of pale toadstool. Death is guaranteed. Stop disgracing Soviet chemists with the Novichok air freshener. wassat
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 18 September 2020 10: 51
        16
        When will someone at a high official level make a clear and clear statement that Navalny was poisoned by the German special services? Or that the Skripals were poisoned by British special services? Or that the Boeing was shot down by the Ukrainian military? Or that WADA is acting on behalf of the United States? Why don't they do this at a high official level, but only complain about the lack of evidence and unanswered questions?
        1. Fungus
          Fungus 18 September 2020 11: 00
          +4
          Let them provide evidence and answer questions. Ours are correct.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 18 September 2020 11: 23
            +3
            They will not provide and will not answer. Not for the first time already.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 18 September 2020 11: 50
              +3
              A bit of conspiracy. What if Navalny is a double agent? What if ours recruited him, or was it a project of the Russian special services from the very beginning? Then I understand why he is free all the time and everything is like water off a duck's back from him. Could it be that the case with Navalny's poisoning was specially orchestrated by our special services (of course, they did not persecute him)? If so, then I understand Navalny's desire to return to Russia. Upon returning to his homeland, he could tell a lot of interesting things. It is up to our media to spread these revelations around the world.
              This is my timid hope for justice in this matter. But what if?!
              I ask you not to judge strictly: everyone goes crazy in their own way! yes
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 18 September 2020 20: 47
                +2
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                Could it be that the case with Navalny's poisoning was specially orchestrated by our special services (of course, they did not hunt him)? If so, then I understand Navalny's desire to return to Russia. Upon returning to his homeland, he could tell a lot of interesting things.

                He will tell you. Only not for our special services or the media, but, as always, for the Western ones. Not because he's a double agent or whatever. But because he knows that he will get nothing for it. In a similar situation in the same "most democratic of all democracies" he would have been sitting for a long time. And there would be a long time to sit. And here - "express concern", at best .... I got this toothlessness!
          2. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 14
            +2
            Quote: Fungus
            Let them provide evidence and answer questions.

            Nobody will provide anything and will not answer any questions. Not for this they staged a provocation
            Small-shavens answered a lot on the squeaks?
        2. ohka
          ohka 18 September 2020 11: 39
          +7
          To say so, you need to have testicles and not real estate over the hill ...
        3. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 18 September 2020 13: 30
          +1
          The MoD has clearly stated several times that the US sponsors, coordinates the actions of ISIS controls the barmaley drones with Poseidon-8 and what?
        4. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 18 September 2020 21: 36
          +2
          When the capital of all (I will not name the names, they are all known) will be returned to Russia from abroad.
          Those. not during our lifetime.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 18 September 2020 10: 21
      +3
      Quote: Alvis07
      And even if it were such an attack, the special services would be able to do everything so that it was secret.

      And they would not give it to Germany
      1. Kamarada
        Kamarada 18 September 2020 10: 53
        0
        And who is this clever, took and allowed Lyokha to fly to Germany. And that he did not know the next step of the West? Then you can logically justify yourself, give facts, but this is no longer important. Another tub of shit has already been poured out. And there you can be 1000 times right but doused, smelly and streamlined. Well, we’ll still come around.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 18 September 2020 11: 52
          0
          Quote: Kamarada
          And who is this smart, took and allowed Lyokha to fly to Germany

          Moreover, for some reason the Germans already knew and were ready.
          And we had all the legal reasons not to release it
          1. Kamarada
            Kamarada 18 September 2020 12: 05
            +1
            If there was no provocation with Lyokha, they would have found or prepared another option. They always have a plan B there. Now the Western mongrels have grabbed the ass of Belarus. And having felt the smell of blood, the jaws are not going to open. Someone believes that they will leave Belarusians alone? Someone doubts who will come next? Someone knows how to change the situation. Someone will be able to apply the ingenious strategy "the best defense is attack." Will the authorities have enough eggs?
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 09
              -1
              Quote: Kamarada
              If there was no provocation with Lyokha, they would have found or prepared another option

              It is with the basement that they would have done another, third, fourth.
              It was the basement they needed
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 18 September 2020 21: 02
                +2
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Quote: Kamarada
                If there was no provocation with Lyokha, they would have found or prepared another option

                It is with the basement that they would have done another, third, fourth.
                It was the basement they needed

                For the past decades, we have traditionally considered America a master and world leader of provocations. And against this background, the "attack" on the radio station in Gleiwitz (Operation Canned) has been forgotten. They, the Germans, themselves with a mustache. Only, judging by the style of performance of the comedy with Podvalny, either they have forgotten how to do it, or the whole world thinks that it’s ridiculous.

                And Podvalny ... Why Podvalny is not him, so the Horse, for example, can be poisoned. Or Khodorkovsky right in London. And if Kasparov is at the opposition sabbath in Lithuania, then Russia has nothing sacred at all ... Podvalny just turned up - they "poisoned" him. And not the best choice for Western intelligence services, by the way. I can imagine what laughter will stand over Russia if the European Parliament, for example, announces Podvalny as Tikhanovskaya Lithuania as president of Russia.
                1. for
                  for 19 September 2020 11: 34
                  0
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  so the Horse, for example, can be poisoned.

                  Try it.
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 19 September 2020 14: 46
                    0
                    Quote: for
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    so the Horse, for example, can be poisoned.

                    TryTHOSE.

                    Who needs it? Like Skripali, like Podvalny, like the rest of this rag-tag. It's only the West that fills them with a price - "oppositionists", damn it ...
                2. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 20 September 2020 09: 42
                  0
                  Are you talking about the daughter of a former chief, to whom one politician owes everything, and whose mother sits on the Federation Council? The horse, which recently squeezed a large piece of the "crab" business in the Far East .. is it the oppositionist? Do you really believe it? the same oppositionist as Oval ..
    3. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 18 September 2020 10: 25
      +3
      Indeed, there are a lot of questions about this case ....... yes, what kind of questions there might be .... if you need a balo, they would have knocked down tightly ... like a bender and others. .... and so the circus ...... neighing and only ..... we stock up on fried seeds (pop-feed is not in the entrance) and follow this comedy further
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 18 September 2020 21: 35
        0
        if you need a balo, then they would knock it tight

        You are mistaken, something Skripal didn’t succeed, those specialists have been gone for a long time, they ended together with the USSR. And now some boobies in the authorities, the proof is the capture of 4 of our GRU agents in the Netherlands, in the pocket of one agent, they found a receipt for paying for a taxi, which indicates the route from the address where the GRU military unit is located in Moscow to Sheremetyevo. This is what a fool you have to be to carry such a receipt with you on a mission. And all the greed, they wanted to account for the trip and save the money of 850 rubles for a taxi. There is also a continuation of this story even more shameful: one of our agent had the rights to a car, the special services of the Netherlands established the rights at which address in Russia his car was registered and it turned out that another 305 cars were registered at this address for different owners and this address turned out to be -the same military unit. As a result, 305 GRU agents were burnt at once, and all penny greed, in order not to pay tax on cars, they registered cars for the organization, well, not boots? All of Europe laughed at such agents.
        And you think that such boots can normally poison someone?
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 19 September 2020 15: 54
          0
          You are wrong, something Skripal didn’t manage to deafen ......... but what should have happened? this is also a circus. but he left ....
          the special services of the Netherlands have established on the rights .... these IT first will finish with MH17 and only then they laugh. in the meantime, everyone laughs about this, like lackeys of striped tulipists with cancer ...
          and when it is necessary to specifically knock it down. without felt boots ..... well, for example, Berezovsky ... why would he hang himself !!!!! and the case on him was not resonant ... hinting at nothing?
        2. K9_SWAT
          K9_SWAT 20 September 2020 06: 57
          +1
          Fairy.....!!!! Do you believe yourself can you put your car on the balance of the organization? In general, do you know that there is a norm of status and nothing more than a certain official transport is allowed? Yes, and KRU will come and ask what is it you pay tax for other people's cars. And then how to re-register the rights back? There you can only write off the car. What a job!
          And where did you see the taxi bill? And where is the taxi paid? They only pay for the flight. And I don't think our agents provide reports on spending.
          They gave out cash and spin.
    4. kit88
      kit88 18 September 2020 10: 28
      28
      The UN session is coming soon. It seems like GDP, Trump should act.
      Remember K. Powell with a test tube?
      So go to the podium Lavrov with a container:
      "Here, gentlemen, here is A-232: N- (O-Methylfluorophosphonyl) -N ', N'-diethyl-acetamidine, your newcomer. Navalny is alive, the Skripals are alive, so he is not as dangerous as you say. There is those who want to experience it, drink a bottle, or even touch it with their hand? "
      1. Hto tama
        Hto tama 18 September 2020 10: 40
        +2
        Quote: kit88
        The UN session is coming soon. It seems like GDP, Trump should act.
        Remember K. Powell with a test tube?
        So go to the podium Lavrov with a container:
        "Here, gentlemen, here is A-232: N- (O-Methylfluorophosphonyl) -N ', N'-diethyl-acetamidine, your newcomer. Navalny is alive, the Skripals are alive, so he is not as dangerous as you say. There is those who want to experience it, drink a bottle, or even touch it with their hand? "

        They took it straight from the tongue, it's high time for our authorities to propose to conduct an open experiment to test this miracle of a means on volunteers to stop hysteria once and for all wassat at least let the old woman Mackerel with the terrible Shapoklyak Mei be signed up as a volunteer, they don't want to, but he doesn't finish it off, so hysteria that. yes hi
        1. kit88
          kit88 18 September 2020 12: 46
          12
          You can, of course, and the old woman ...
          But I would like to see there the faces of those who are primarily concerned. Those who sit with water in their mouths typing, but without looking at the papers that are sent to them from Washington-Brussels.
          OPCW - Schnikov.
          Do not you speak poisonously? Come here victim of the Spanish exam. am
      2. Kamarada
        Kamarada 18 September 2020 11: 06
        +6
        It is not possible to seriously butt with the "partners" holding the loot in their countries and in their fifth column. I don't want to advertise Solovyov's show, but yesterday's release explains a lot. And who will defend the interests of the Russians if the resource elite together with the "partners" rob the country. Pipes in all directions are a shame and banal robbery of every citizen of Russia.
        1. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
          evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 18 September 2020 12: 00
          -1
          That's right, Kamarada. They are happy to embrace the West. To put it mildly. The West serves Satanists - "globalists"? And who are Russian-speaking operators who serve Russia? God or Satan? Good or bad?
          Where are their relatives and property? For three decades Russia has been successfully milked. Who, besides them, needs it? Does Russia need this? Is it necessary for the Russian people and other indigenous peoples?
          Bulk ,, bad ,,? And, good, who? Who promised to increase the salary of state employees by 1000 (in common parlance - ,, ruble ,,) rubles before the ELECTION promised? Mockery of the people of Russia, mockery of Meaning, of Truth ... Parody everywhere and in everything ...
          Did the special services of ,, Russia Capitalist ,, (,, RK ,,) have worked? Only then could you?
          Only TWO KINDS, for centuries ... Intelligence and counterintelligence. Who taxed N.? Who taxed S.? Itself? Level - ,, gods ,,?
          Why pay tribute to the West, gods? Why, for a green candy wrapper, not backed by gold, Russians pay more than 70 rubles, if we have an allegedly independent state? For a pound sterling - 100 .. It's okay ,, black raincoats ,,? If during the Second World War, nemchura demanded ,, only ,, 10 (!) Rubles for the occupation mark. How so ,, raincoats ,,? Itself? It's funny?
          Is Russia an occupied territory? All is well, let's move on, don't we bother?
      3. Snail N9
        Snail N9 18 September 2020 11: 07
        +6
        Our Foreign Ministry is not capable of such a thing - it tries, with the stubbornness of the name of Dostoevsky's famous novel, calling these characters "partners" (who officially put Russia on the list of enemies, or opponents, or as the main threat), God forbid them! not to offend, not upset, not put in an uncomfortable position and so on. All the so-called "formidable attacks" of the toothless Russian Foreign Ministry will only appear in Russian-speaking media or Twitter for the Russian-speaking audience, in the international arena they have their languages ​​stuck in the back .... tsu - with the expression of eternal "concern" and "regret."
      4. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 18 September 2020 11: 53
        -1
        Quote: kit88
        even touch it with your hand? "

        At least brush your teeth
      5. Shkworen
        Shkworen 18 September 2020 19: 23
        0
        if you want proof, he opens the canister and puts on a gas mask wassat
    5. vkl.47
      vkl.47 18 September 2020 10: 33
      -1
      He said everything right
    6. cost
      cost 18 September 2020 11: 00
      0
      Navalny's associates took a bottle from the room containing the most dangerous poison, but none of them suffered from poisoning. It also looks extremely strange. At the same time, they took the evidence in order to pass it on to German doctors even when there was no talk of transporting him to Germany, and there was still no information about his state of health. And for some reason they decided to take the bottle from the room as evidence, and not the things from the oppositionist's car or from the place where he bathed. As if they knew in advance what and where to take.

      Apparently the bottle was labeled "Novichek, YAD" laughing
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 18 September 2020 11: 54
        0
        Quote: Rich
        Apparently the bottle was labeled "Novichek, YAD"

        "Newbie. Transfer to the Germans"
    7. iouris
      iouris 18 September 2020 13: 22
      0
      Quote: Alvis07
      After all, no one thinks that

      No one will think anymore - everyone is watching CNN and "the process is underway." And you have to think. It is necessary to analyze not only signals from the outside ("from partners and colleagues"), but also who and how reacts to these signals "inside".
      I will express my (expert) opinion that on September 17, 2020, the war with the aim of "establishing in the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation (" union state ") was officially declared. (Please highlight this fact.)
      Trump said that the United States has such a terrible weapon that even China and the Russian Federation do not have. (And if these are toxic substances? Then "incidents" involving "Russians" (they are pathological killers! - everyone knows) and their clients acquire a very specific meaning. And Trump's statement actually contains a threat of its use and blackmail (a strong negotiating position).
      Now about how the Russian Federation enters the war.
      Since the Russian Federation has instrumental (objective) data on researching the body of a "leading opposition politician," the statements of the presidency and the Foreign Ministry to their "colleagues" about their readiness to cooperate in the investigation (what?) Look not just strange. They can be viewed as the absence of a consolidated position in Moscow and the readiness of certain circles to "negotiate with partners (in common business)." The question is: at whose expense? - purely rhetorical.
      It is not hard to guess that the "leading opposition politician of the Russian Federation" (a good "Russian nationalist", and bad Russian nationalists, as a rule, commit suicide in prison) is destined to function as a "good Russian president" (temporary residence will be located, for example, in Berlin) , a kind of "Alexei Guaidov-III".
      An invitation to "Alexei" ("the leading opposition politician of the Russian Federation") to return to Moscow (in what capacity?) "After restoration" (from what?) Looks like an invitation (from the opposition). Obviously, the return in a different capacity is hindered by the explicit participation in the organization of the provocation (most likely in the commission of a crime: the initiation of the "multi-step" process of changing the state system of the Russian Federation) of the wife of the "leading opposition politician of the Russian Federation" and his closest circle, who, by the way, were also taken away some "bottles" that are used to falsify poisoning (evidence).
      Thus, SP-2 is a distraction of attention to an unusable object. The main goal of the FRG and the recipients of transfers from the EU that joined it is to plunder Eurasia (ie the FSU) to "support the pants." The Trump administration leaves them no other choice. Trump has a bigger goal.
  2. Skay
    Skay 18 September 2020 10: 07
    +7
    Quotes from Topkor:
    Any preschooler in the West knows that Novichok is a chemical warfare agent with a high degree of toxicity. So high that the horses around him die, birds fall dead on the fly, flies stack in a row. My question is - where are the bodies?


    In the case of Navalny, we had to have an S7 airline plane, which our hero flew from Tomsk, full of corpses, not counting the deceased ambulance doctors, which urgently delivered him to the Omsk emergency hospital No.1, not counting the corpses in the emergency hospital No.1 in Omsk ... All "suicide bombers" worked without chemical protection suits! Video available. About his late press secretary Kira Yarmysh, who personally accompanied him on the flight and on delivery to the hospital, I am already silent. She was the first to bend! An, no, she's alive, thank God. How so, I can't put my mind to it ?! The "newcomer" got caught up in some kind of selective - here it acts, here it "wraps up the fish".

    smile
  3. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 18 September 2020 10: 08
    0
    How was the bottle transported? Stuck in Xisian?
    That's what Lyokha has a dumbfounded look after waking up in Charite. It hurts great, but does not remember anything.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 18 September 2020 11: 03
      +3
      Quote: 7,62x54
      How was the bottle transported? Stuck in Xisian?
      That's what Lyokha has a dumbfounded look after waking up in Charite. It hurts great, but does not remember anything.

      The Germans, in fact, CONSCIOUSLY smuggled and illegally, hid the most important evidence, absolutely illegally confiscated by the bulk.

      Navalnyata and the Germans HAVE CONSIDERED them from the pre-investigation investigation carried out by the transport prosecutor's office of Russia.

      And the illegal procedure of their "removal" from the place and their smuggling turned them into NOTHING, not evidence. Those who committed illegal actions that interfered with the investigation should be punished.

      For now it is not clear WHERE the bottle is soiled by a newcomer: in a German plane, in the Charite, in the Bundeswehr, most likely.

      transport prosecutor's office:
      employees examined the hotel room, in which Navalny stopped, as well as various sections along the route of his movement. Also, the police seized more than 100 itemsthat may have evidentiary value, and studied the footage from the security cameras. experts conduct more than 20 different forensic studies. At the moment, no strong or narcotic substances have been found, ”
  4. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 18 September 2020 10: 11
    +1
    At the same time, one comrade-in-arms in London He ran away ... It's time to interrogate comrades-in-arms.
    1. novel66
      novel66 18 September 2020 10: 15
      +2
      and beat a little, so, for prevention! Ruslan hi
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 18 September 2020 10: 22
        +1
        a little? well, if with feet, then okay.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 18 September 2020 10: 26
        0
        Kicking on the kidneys and face. For the long memory
      3. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 18 September 2020 12: 41
        0
        Novel, hi With a mop, as in the Dalny ATS ...
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 18 September 2020 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Time to interrogate companions

      Yes, who will give it
    3. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 11: 22
      -2
      Quote: Tank jacket
      It's time to interrogate comrades.


      This is yes. I would even say more - it's time to conduct your own, open and honest investigation! Only now no one conducts it. I wonder why?
      1. ultra
        ultra 18 September 2020 11: 53
        +3
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        Only now no one conducts it.

        There must be reasons for such an investigation, our doctors did not find signs of poisoning, the victim or relatives did not write a statement to the investigative committee or the prosecutor's office. No information was received from Germany about the possible poisoning. On what basis to initiate a case?
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 11: 56
          +1
          Quote: ultra
          What are the grounds for initiating a case?


          Ask Lipchanin. He says it's time to interrogate!
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 05
            -1
            Quote: Eye of the Crying
            Ask Lipchanin. He says it's time to interrogate!

            Blind, where did I say that?
            Provocateur!
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 12
              0
              Quote: Lipchanin

              Blind, where did I say that?


              Sorry, you didn't say that. You just agreed. However, if you _do not think_ that it is "time to interrogate associates," say it directly.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 17
                -1
                Quote: Eye of the Crying
                ... You just agreed.

                Where did I agree?
                1. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 19
                  +1
                  When they said "yes who will give that." And when they ignored the sentence "if you _don't think_ that" it's time to interrogate your comrades-in-arms, "say it directly."
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 23
                    -1
                    Quote: Eye of the Crying
                    When they said "yes who will give that"

                    Is this consent?
                    And when ignored the suggestions
                    1. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 24
                      0
                      These are two consents. But, of course, it’s not too late to clearly disagree and prove that I’m wrong.
                      1. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 39
                        -2
                        Quote: Eye of the Crying
                        These are two consents.

                        We have a different view of consent.
                        Consent is when "YES"
                        not too late

                        And when will it be late and what will happen next?
                        express your disagreement

                        Already expressed
                        and prove

                        I read a good phrase yesterday in the internet.
                        "If you were told by a pig, you don't need to say," What are your proofs, "you need to hit right away."
                      2. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 45
                        0
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        express your disagreement

                        Already expressed


                        Still no.

                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        I read a good phrase yesterday in the internet.
                        "If you were told by a pig, you don't need to say," What are your proofs, "you need to hit right away."


                        You're also a perp boxer.
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 18 September 2020 12: 55
          +3
          Quote: Eye of the Crying
          Ask Lipchanin. He says it's time to interrogate!

          I confirm. Spoke. Here's a quote:
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Kicking on the kidneys and face.
          laughing
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 18 September 2020 13: 48
            -1
            Quote: Polite Elk
            I confirm. Spoke. Here is a quote

            Tell me more you interrogated laughing
    4. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 18 September 2020 11: 56
      -2
      Quote: Eye of the Crying
      I wonder why?

      Because the Germans refuse. And they have all the evidence
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 11: 58
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        the Germans refuse. And they have all the evidence


        Well, what a helplessness ... at least Navalny has analyzes in Russia. Where is the statement "We checked them for Newbie and found nothing"? It would be great if they were also provided to some independent third party.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 06
          -3
          Quote: Eye of the Crying
          Well, what a helplessness ... at least Navalny's analyzes are also available in Russia.

          No. There is no "Novice" in the latest analyzes. Germans don't show theirs
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 11
            +3
            Quote: Lipchanin
            There is no "Novice" in the latest analyzes.


            Do you have a link to an official statement by Russian experts, or was it just told on TV?
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 19
              -2
              Quote: Eye of the Crying
              Do you have a link to an official statement by Russian experts, or was it just told on TV?

              They said on TV. Or is the internet the last resort? Are you sure that you posted it?
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 22
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                They said on TV.


                I thought so.

                Quote: Lipchanin
                Or is the internet the last resort?


                The last resort is the government. And it publishes its official statements, including on the Internet.

                Quote: Lipchanin
                Are you sure that you posted it?


                I am sure that no official statement has been posted. Because he was not there.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 40
                  -2
                  Quote: Eye of the Crying
                  I am sure that no official statement has been posted. Because he was not there.

                  Look below
            2. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 18 September 2020 12: 28
              -3
              Get
              https://zona.media/chronicle/navalny_omsk
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 33
                +1
                And where is the official statement by the Russian government that no Noviche was found in Navalny's analyzes? There is no such statement.
        2. MMX
          MMX 18 September 2020 17: 08
          -1
          Where is the statement "We checked them for Newbie and found nothing"?


          There has been a statement for a long time.

          It would be great if they were also provided to some independent third party.


          Why third independent? Investigation of a criminal case on the territory of the Russian Federation is the exclusive competence of the Russian authorities.

          And what is this "third independent party"?
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 20: 44
            +2
            Quote: MMX
            There has been a statement for a long time.


            Link please.

            Quote: MMX
            Investigation of a criminal case on the territory of the Russian Federation is the exclusive competence of the bodies of the Russian Federation.


            Did I talk about a criminal case? No, it seemed to you. I was talking about chemical analysis.

            Quote: MMX
            And what is this "third independent party"?


            Let them choose the one they deem necessary.
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 18 September 2020 21: 50
              -1
              I think the Kremlin will choose Belarus and send materials to the Old Man, who will accurately and well do an "independent" analysis and confirm the absence of poison. Well, you can also send to North Korea, they will also confirm, but sending the rest is dangerous.
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 21: 52
                +2
                Both options are great. Everything is clear at once.
            2. MMX
              MMX 19 September 2020 18: 44
              0
              Link please.


              Please welcome. There is a complete set.
              https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5f61068d9a79470b7b9f207a

              Did I talk about a criminal case? No, it seemed to you. I was talking about chemical analysis.


              And on what basis should I transfer something somewhere ??????????????????????????????????? Are you out of your mind?

              Let them choose the one they deem necessary.


              We considered it necessary not to transfer, because the competence is exclusive, Russian.
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 19 September 2020 19: 43
                0
                Quote: MMX
                Please welcome. There is a complete set.
                https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5f61068d9a79470b7b9f207a


                There is a complete set of indistinct mumbling. And the statement "we have carried out an analysis, no newcomer has been found" is not there.

                Quote: MMX
                Are you out of your mind?


                I - yes, and you?

                Quote: MMX
                We considered it necessary not to transfer, because the competence is exclusive, Russian.


                Competence in chemical analysis has not been demonstrated.
                1. MMX
                  MMX 20 September 2020 19: 32
                  0
                  There is a complete set of indistinct mumbling. And the statement "we have carried out an analysis, no newcomer has been found" is not there.


                  Read carefully. Everything is there.
                  But Germany for some reason does not show its expertise ...

                  I - yes, and you?


                  Oh, well, if you are so sure, then indicate the reasons for the examination by a "third party". Procedural grounds.

                  Competence in chemical analysis has not been demonstrated.


                  And here there are already doubts about the adequacy. To whom and what should the Russian Federation demonstrate ??? I suppose you? wassat
                  1. The eye of the crying
                    The eye of the crying 20 September 2020 19: 33
                    0
                    Quote: MMX
                    Read carefully. Everything is there.


                    If it was there, you would give a direct link. And so you have to wag "read carefully".

                    Quote: MMX
                    To whom and what should the Russian Federation demonstrate ???


                    Have you seen a statement somewhere that she should? Not. You came up with it. What, in general, is typical for guardians - they always come up with non-existent grievances and take offense at them with pleasure.
                    1. MMX
                      MMX 20 September 2020 19: 44
                      0
                      If it was there, you would give a direct link. And so you have to wag "look for yourself."


                      Presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov and SVR head Sergei Naryshkin stated that the results of a comprehensive analysis made by Navalny in Omsk before leaving for Germany did not show the presence of any poisons in his body.

                      Read more at RBC:
                      https://www.rbc.ru/society/20/09/2020/5f66744d9a79479286a17f6f


                      Well, there it is written in Russian in white. Questions? Or indistinct too? lol

                      Have you seen a statement somewhere that she should? Not. You came up with it. What, in general, is typical for guardians - they always come up with non-existent grievances and take offense at them with pleasure.


                      Well, that is, you do not find grounds for an examination by a third party. Right? It is good that we have found certainty in this issue.
                    2. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 20 September 2020 19: 51
                      0
                      Quote: MMX
                      Well, there it is written in Russian in white.


                      The linked document is not an official statement by anyone. It's just a collection of RBC publications.

                      Quote: MMX
                      Well, that is, you do not find grounds for an examination by a third party. Right?


                      Wrong.
                    3. MMX
                      MMX 20 September 2020 20: 02
                      0
                      The linked document is not an official statement by anyone. It's just a collection of RBC publications.

                      I'm sorry, what? And where are the documents about the poisoning by the Novice from Germany? lol

                      Wrong.


                      Are the arguments over? laughing
                    4. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 20 September 2020 20: 07
                      0
                      Quote: MMX
                      And where are the documents about the poisoning by the Novice from Germany?


                      I asked for a link to the statement of Russian officials that the analysis of Navalny's samples was carried out and no poison was found. Instead, you demand some kind of documents from the German side. Are you out of your mind?

                      Quote: MMX
                      Are the arguments over? laughing


                      You asked a question, I answered. I did not try to convince you of anything and did not give any arguments.
                    5. MMX
                      MMX 20 September 2020 20: 16
                      0
                      I asked for a link to the statement of Russian officials that the analysis of Navalny's samples was carried out and no poison was found.


                      I gave you a link to the statement of Peskov and the head of the RF IC Bastrykin.
                      Peskov is a press secretary, it is his job to answer questions from journalists. In this case, RBC. The answer has been received. There is a statement.

                      You asked a question, I answered. I didn’t try to run away from you and didn’t give any reasons.


                      Of course, no arguments were given. Since there are none. There are no facts.
                      Russia has nothing to justify. Actually, Lavrov said this on this occasion. No poisons were found, no documents were provided by the German side (upon request). Consequently, there are no grounds for a "third party" examination.
                      As required.
                    6. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 20 September 2020 20: 34
                      0
                      Quote: MMX
                      Peskov is a press secretary, it is his job to answer questions from journalists.


                      "He sometimes carries such a blizzard" (c) Vladimir Putin

                      Quote: MMX
                      Russia has nothing to justify.


                      Whether it is or not will be revealed only during the investigation.

                      Quote: MMX
                      No poisons detected


                      For the second day you will not give a link to an official statement about this.
                    7. MMX
                      MMX 21 September 2020 11: 59
                      0
                      "He sometimes carries such a blizzard" (c) Vladimir Putin


                      For the second day you will not give a link to an official statement about this.


                      Gave it for a long time. You don't like it because there is nothing to argue, so you come up with it.

                      Whether it is or not will be revealed only during the investigation.


                      Well, only the Russian Federation can find out.
                      Here, after all, the point is, Germany does not have the ability and competence to identify this kind of poisons. And RF / USSR is a developer. After all, it is no coincidence that Merkel asks the Russian Federation for help to figure it out, since only the Russian Federation has the competence (!) And powers to investigate this case and check whether the Germans conducted the examination correctly and point out to them the shortcomings. After all, there are many questions: was there a poisoning? Now they know that our traces of poison were not found in Navalny's body while he was on the territory of the Russian Federation. So the poisoning, if it happened, happened on the territory of another state (probably, Germany or on the way to it). So it is necessary to establish who poisoned the citizen of the Russian Federation in Germany. And you do not even doubt that our investigation will determine the names of those accompanying or those who did it.
                      Or they will establish that all this is falsification. wink
                    8. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 21 September 2020 12: 17
                      0
                      Quote: MMX
                      For the second day you will not give a link to an official statement about this.

                      Gave for a long time


                      You have provided a link to the collection of RBC publications. You did not give any references to official statements.

                      Quote: MMX
                      Well, only the Russian Federation can find out.


                      Captain Obvious has never been so obvious.

                      Quote: MMX
                      So it is necessary to establish who poisoned the citizen of the Russian Federation in Germany. And you do not even doubt that our investigation will determine the names of those accompanying or those who did it.
                      Or they will establish that all this is falsification


                      When it installs, then come. Although no, you can come when the investigation officially begins.
                    9. MMX
                      MMX 22 September 2020 13: 26
                      0
                      You have provided a link to the collection of RBC publications. You did not give any references to official statements.


                      The media exist for that, to publish. Including official statements. Have you thought about it? laughing

                      Captain Obvious has never been so obvious.


                      Yeah, then your conclusions are all the more incomprehensible that you need to give a third party samples for research ... lol

                      When it installs, then come. Although no, you can come when the investigation officially begins.


                      Where should I go? wassat
                    10. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 22 September 2020 13: 29
                      0
                      Quote: MMX
                      The media exist for that, to publish. Including official statements.


                      Yes. But there is no official statement that the Russian laboratory carried out an analysis and found no poison. Therefore, you cannot link to it.

                      Quote: MMX
                      Where should I go? wassat


                      Here. With a report.
                    11. MMX
                      MMX 22 September 2020 20: 17
                      0
                      Yes. But there is no official statement that the Russian laboratory carried out an analysis and found no poison. Therefore, you cannot link to it.


                      Pardon me, my dear, well, you can't treat the Russian language so casually. Well, everything is written there. I'm not going to poke my nose at every schoolchild on the Internet.
                      If you are experiencing difficulties with translation from Russian, do not hesitate, tell me, then I will be glad to help. wink

                      Here. With a report.


                      Are you from your own experience, about the reports? Who are you reporting to? lol
                    12. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 22 September 2020 20: 28
                      0
                      Quote: MMX
                      I'm not going to poke my nose at every schoolchild on the Internet.


                      Of course you won't. Because you can't. You have nothing to poke at.

                      Quote: MMX

                      Quote: Eye of the Crying

                      Quote: MMX

                      Where should I go? wassat

                      Here. With a report.

                      Are you from your own experience, about the reports?


                      You have serious problems understanding the text. So be it, I will explain: after everything that you said in this thread, you must come here with a report when some official Russian statement on the analysis for poison is published. Of course you won't come.
                    13. MMX
                      MMX 23 September 2020 16: 09
                      0
                      Of course you won't. Because you can't. You have nothing to poke at.


                      Yeah, you didn't know there were such statements. And when, to your surprise, they poked you with your nose, they decided to play with words and make a good face in a bad game.

                      You have serious problems understanding the text. So be it, I will explain: after everything that you said in this thread, you must come here with a report when some official Russian statement on the analysis for poison is published. Of course you won't come.


                      I report: after the research of Navalny, the statements of the heads were made. doctor of the Omsk hospital, the Ministry of Health of the Omsk region, the head of the RF IC Bastrykin, the press secretary of the RF President Peskov.
                      Since no poisons were found, there are no grounds for initiating a criminal case due to the circumstances of Navalny's illness.


                      P.S. And here's another funny thing:




                      So transfer to a third party or is it only the Russian Federation that can find out ??? lol
                    14. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 23 September 2020 16: 16
                      0
                      If you don't have a report, don't bother me.
                    15. MMX
                      MMX 24 September 2020 11: 31
                      0
                      Quote: Eye of the Crying
                      If you don't have a report, don't bother me.


                      I report: A. Navalny has recovered! There is no BOV in his body, he is completely healthy!
                      Source: https://www.charite.de/service/pressemitteilung/artikel/detail/siebtes_statement_der_charite_stationaere_behandlung_von_alexei_nawalny_abgeschlossen/

                      wassat

                      So what's up with the third party? Should Navalner be transferred there or not? laughing
                    16. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 24 September 2020 11: 41
                      0
                      Look, you know how to give direct links. True, out of habit you lie about their content.
                    17. MMX
                      MMX 27 September 2020 13: 09
                      0
                      Quote: Eye of the Crying
                      Look, you know how to give direct links. True, out of habit you lie about their content.


                      That is not, only you are lying here. Actually, you registered here for a lie. Not a single truthful word has been written by you in VO.
                      On the contrary, everything I say and write is true. My position is based solely on facts and reflects the true picture of the world.
                    18. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 27 September 2020 13: 27
                      0
                      Quote: MMX
                      Not a single truthful word has been written by you in VO.


                      I'm flattered that you read every word I say in VO. The only pity is that you did not understand everything. Do not run after me with assurances of your perfect veracity. When you have a report on what interests me - write.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 18 September 2020 12: 42
    0
    From London she is not given ...
  • MMX
    MMX 18 September 2020 17: 02
    -1
    I would even say more - it's time to spend


    Carry out.

    open and honest, investigation!


    What kind of beast is this, "open and honest"? And if it is not open, then it is not honest?
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 21: 56
      0
      Quote: MMX
      Carry out.


      Whether they conduct it or not, they don't say.

      Quote: MMX
      And if it is not open, then it is not honest?


      And if not open, then any statements about honesty are an empty phrase.
      1. MMX
        MMX 19 September 2020 19: 02
        0
        Whether they conduct it or not, they don't say.


        A pre-investigation check is underway. In strict accordance with Russian law. Requests made as expected. If you are not aware, these are your problems.

        And if not open, then any statements about honesty are an empty phrase.


        Apparently the level does not allow you to understand the situation. The Germans, by the way, understand everything perfectly and therefore make such statements.
        Lavrov's last statement diplomatically explains the situation, but you, apparently, are not able to understand.
        I am translating into a simple common language (understandable to you):
        1. Everything that happened to a citizen of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Russian Federation is the EXCLUSIVE competence of Russia and its state. organs.
        2. By virtue of paragraph 1, any checks, investigations, studies, expertises, etc., are carried out ONLY by the Russian Federation and by no one else.
        3. By virtue of points 1 and 2, there are only two opinions on the situation with Navalny: the first is the Russian official position and the second is incorrect.
        4. The Germans know this very well, and therefore they ask the Russian Federation to conduct an audit, everything else has no legal force.

        Lavrov pointed out, give the data (as you understand, no, except for political statements), we will consider them and only then decide whether they are correct or not. I repeat, only and exclusively the RF can decide whether these data are correct and take appropriate measures (initiation of a case or other procedural actions).
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 September 2020 10: 13
    +3
    "We knew in advance what and where to get it" - political scientist Markov about the actions of Navalny's associates in a hotel room
    It is not necessary to make excuses, not to present versions - to a normal person, and so everything is clear that it is a setup - but to be ready to repulse the ENEMY, and to fight him like an ENEMY - to destroy.
    1. Kamarada
      Kamarada 18 September 2020 11: 35
      -3
      Who will fight Markov or what? The authorities and elites of the Russian Federation have already surrendered everything they can and cannot. The last alarm bell is Belarus, followed by Moscow. It looks like 41g.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 18 September 2020 11: 58
        -1
        Quote: Kamarada
        The last alarm call is Belarus

        Have you surrendered Belarus? When is that?
        I must have overslept recourse
        1. Kamarada
          Kamarada 18 September 2020 12: 43
          +2
          Thank God, they did not surrender, but they surrendered Ukraine. It was mediocre. And the fault is largely on the "galley" team.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 18 September 2020 10: 20
    -1
    Only those who hate Putin and the Russian government can support it

    And not only.
    ALL Russia
  • Oleg123219307
    Oleg123219307 18 September 2020 10: 21
    +1
    How much can you wipe off when doused with shit? The fact that we are here reasoning logically, presenting arguments and proofs, in the eyes of the whole world, we only look even more guilty. It is not clear why it is needed in the end. And this cowardly policy has been traced in all directions in recent years. Skripali, LDNR, Belarus, now Navalny. Maybe it's time to fight the enemies who openly call for the destruction of our country and not cajole them? Maybe it's time to stop flirting with fraternal Ukraine, and pile on it in full and take away the entire southeast so that it began to stink? Maybe it is necessary to respond to such poisonings by breaking diplomatic relations and physically destroying all the "partners" residency on our territory? Maybe liberalism, openly calling for the surrender of the Crimea, to destroy the country and to arrange the American crap here is time to shoot for betraying the motherland? Otherwise, they will soon cease to consider us a threat, but then it will really be close to the war, because our resources have been obscuring their eyes for many centuries ...
    1. Kamarada
      Kamarada 18 September 2020 10: 34
      -5
      Bravo. It is high time to give the presumptuous "partners" in the face. But who will do it ???. Are they not the very same rowing on golers that have been rowing in the wrong direction for many years? This team discredited itself with a toothless and mediocre politics. We all remember how many intrigues were done in relation to Russia. How many tubs of slop are poured. But it's hard to remember even one worthy answer.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 18 September 2020 11: 59
      -4
      Quote: oleg123219307
      Maybe it's time to fight your enemies

      "Topols" or "Iskander"
      1. Kamarada
        Kamarada 18 September 2020 12: 50
        +2
        Neither one nor the other. Nobody wants a kernel apocplipsas. But you need to move from defense to attack. Create problems for them on their territory. Blame them for all mortal sins. Let them get away with it. For example, Merkel stupidly poisons the Turks as a newcomer to kebabs. With news, casualties and sanctions. Or something else similar. Act in their own way. Or that we are not like that, we are noble. ?
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 18 September 2020 21: 53
          0
          Indeed, if they poisoned the main oppositionist here, why don't we poison the oppositionists there. An eye for an eye.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 18 September 2020 10: 25
    +3
    "We knew in advance what and where to get it" - political scientist Markov about the actions of Navalny's associates in a hotel room

    In general, it is the task of the servicemen to pinch everyone, different, who know in advance where and what to TAKE !!!
    Question - And what were they DOING all this time, when all sorts of different rustling, climbing wherever they wanted?
    They were not given a command or were you engaged in other things?
    If there was no command, WHY?
    If you were "busy", then WHAT?
    There are many questions, but the answers ........
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 18 September 2020 21: 57
      +2
      So I have a question - if dozens of FSB agents herded Lyokha, then how did they admit that someone else poisoned him, and even took traces of the poison on the bottle to Germany? What kind of agents are they, complete incompetence. With such FSB agents, we will disgrace the whole world.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 September 2020 11: 50
        0
        Poaching is not a problem, one person is enough to approach the body!
        The "mouth" is really tight, why? For those who give commands, this face is safe, even somewhat useful, inside his party he shits more than them.
        The fact that they have been outplayed will not do them much harm, but for the rest they do not care about everything, in general.
        In short, they won't tell us anything, there will be passive butting and nothing more.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 September 2020 10: 25
    +1
    The "courage" is striking, who were so free to handle the bottle, on the neck of which traces of "combat OV" were later found. The further, the more insanity and completely stupid, illiterate statements. And this is taken for granted in Europe and with a bang.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 18 September 2020 10: 37
      +1

      rotmistr60 (Gennady)
      Today, 10: 25
      +1
      The "courage" is striking,
      They are marking their share in the Nobel Prize! wink
  • paul3390
    paul3390 18 September 2020 10: 28
    +7
    When the commerce was trashed in the early 90s, in addition to him, the secretary died, and even the pathologist who did the autopsy! And a bunch of operas doing a search ended up in a hospital .. That's what the real OV is. Now the question is - have we abruptly forgotten how to do Newbie? And anyway - what dumbass would use such crap in crowded places? And even knowing that the object has already taken plane tickets? Are ordinary poisons not enough? In addition, the same Nemtsov was vulgarly shot without all these culinary delights .. And then - what an assassination attempt with the use of military weapons - and there are no corpses! How do you order this to be understood?
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 11: 24
      0
      Quote: paul3390
      ... That's what real OB is.


      This is what real OV is when used by illiterate bandits.
      1. ultra
        ultra 18 September 2020 11: 55
        0
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        This is what real OV is when used by illiterate bandits.

        If there was a real OV, then the orchestra would have played Leliku. laughing
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 18 September 2020 12: 00
          +2
          Quote: ultra
          If there was a real OV, then the orchestra would have played Leliku. laughing


          You will probably be surprised, but OV is not a sentence. Have you heard about the sarin attack on the Tokyo subway? Combat agent of nerve-paralytic action. There are dozens of survivors (or even hundreds - too lazy to watch).
          1. Avior
            Avior 18 September 2020 13: 40
            +4
            In the Tokyo subway, there are about 5 thousand victims.
            Of these, no more than thirty people died.
            BOV does not imply rapid medical care.
    2. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 18 September 2020 22: 03
      +1
      The effectiveness of the poison depends on the dose, the larger the dose, the better the effect, but then the poison is also excreted from the body for a long time, and the poisoners had to be poisoned so that the poison quickly decomposed itself, for this they used a small dose.
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 18 September 2020 10: 29
    +1
    "A bottle from Navalny's number" is an elementary tossing of pseudo-evidence from the side.
    In addition, an open bottle means that anyone could spit there during transportation to Germany.
    1. Kamarada
      Kamarada 18 September 2020 11: 45
      -1
      Well, what kind of bottle? If there was no bottle, they would say what they put in the panties. Any nonsense canal. The fact is that it does not matter who and how, and in general whether he hounded. It is important that the information slops that have already been poured. Why now the details?
    2. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 18 September 2020 22: 07
      -1
      If you do not know, then do not speak. Newbie's footprints were found on the bottle, not in the bottle. Navalny's people took the bottle in rubber gloves and packed it in an airtight bag.
  • Lester7777
    Lester7777 18 September 2020 10: 35
    +1
    This mythical bottle is worth nothing, it is clear and a hedgehog. No court in the world will consider such "evidence". But if Russia is to be blamed, anything will do. Witnesses whom we will not show you, but we will publish their testimonies now. Indisputable evidence, only we will not present them, they are secret. This is a circus that has nothing to do with legal norms. And I'm beginning to lean towards the opinion that you need to start fighting nits with their own weapons. All the same, the sanctions will be introduced. Tomorrow they will be accused of occupying the Novgorod Republic and the Kazan Khanate.
  • Fregate
    Fregate 18 September 2020 10: 36
    +4
    Why don't we really harass someone from this pro-Western shushira as a "newbie"? Shoot on video to show that after it they die in minutes. And hound it until the West recognizes that all Skripals and Navalny are poisoned by a "newcomer" of their choreographed clownery. I hope I'm not too bloodthirsty.
  • Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 18 September 2020 10: 37
    -1
    Quote: Alvis07
    Indeed, there are many questions in this case

    What questions? There is only one question - who ordered the whole circus? Merkel, Trump or someone else?
  • Alex Belostockij
    Alex Belostockij 18 September 2020 10: 50
    +2
    If they wanted to crash, then, most likely, they would have done it without the "newbie" who has already set everyone on edge
  • Avior
    Avior 18 September 2020 10: 52
    +2
    The most logical thing now is to organize the analysis of samples from Omsk in an independent laboratory as soon as possible and confirm in it that in Omsk Navalny has no "newcomer" in samples.
    And how they got there is a problem for the Germans after that. Until this is done, the damage to Russia's reputation will continue for a long time. It is unclear why this has not been done so far.
    Markov surprises. It turns out that he, in principle, does not mind the version of poisoning?
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 18 September 2020 22: 12
      0
      So I have a question - why won't ours give samples to an independent laboratory? Why are our "mooing" something inarticulate and not taking concrete actions? They just deny everything, like that ostrich with its head in the sand.
    2. borberd
      borberd 18 September 2020 22: 52
      0
      As an option, Russia does not have highly sensitive equipment, which, as it turned out, the Germans have. Therefore, no one can say whether or not there is poison in the analyzes in Russia. And if the poison is found in an independent laboratory, it will be evidence against Russia.
      1. Avior
        Avior 19 September 2020 07: 51
        0
        Eats two laboratories certified by the OPCW. But I'm not sure if this means their high sensitivity
        In any case, until there is confirmation from an independent laboratory, accusations of poisoning with arguments in the style of "why do we need this?" you will not refute
  • Lester7777
    Lester7777 18 September 2020 11: 06
    +2
    Quote: Fregate
    Why don't we really harass someone from this pro-Western shushira as a "newbie"? Shoot on video to show that after it they die in minutes. And hound it until the West recognizes that all Skripals and Navalny are poisoned by a "newcomer" of their choreographed clownery. I hope I'm not too bloodthirsty.

    Why poison someone right away? So in fact, in fact, they will decide that someone has been poisoned. I am not an evil person, so I propose a completely humane option. As a miracle survivor, on a blue eye promises that he will return to Russia and show everyone here that the procedure is as follows. Miraculously, the survivor is arrested right at the plane. File charges under Article 135 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Solder seven years. To any demands for evidence from Europe and other clowns, tirelessly repeat - there is evidence, evidence is reinforced concrete, but we cannot present it, so as not to cause additional psychological trauma to the victim. If they are completely worried, let them read the Council of Europe Convention on the Protection of Children against Sexual Exploitation and Sexual Abuse. After six months unforgettable for those who have returned from the afterlife, offer to exchange them for any nits that have been dumped from Russia and feel completely safe.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 18 September 2020 11: 15
    +1
    This Newcomer will now constantly climb out when it is convenient for the West. Until we give them some tinsel and break their record, this will continue. repeat
    1. Kamarada
      Kamarada 18 September 2020 11: 46
      -1
      Who will give them? Our partners will mutuz theirs?
  • K-50
    K-50 18 September 2020 11: 19
    0
    If weapons of mass destruction were used, which includes BOV, then ALL guests of the hotel, plane and wherever it was still worn would take a break. At least they would have received severe poisoning !!!
    But we have such specialists that they can use weapons of mass destruction strictly individually and dosed. God forbid the "client" will glue the flippers, it is necessary that he does not just climb off the toilet! fellow fellow lol lol lol
  • Horon
    Horon 18 September 2020 11: 34
    +1
    If they wanted to remove the piled-up, then on their territory they organized a car accident without any frills, to discredit it it was enough to put a youngster in bed. In reality, what threatened him from those whom he hooked on is the maximum, a broken muzzle-face. To poison and kill this opposition scarecrow, beneficial to the Kremlin, makes sense only to those who oppose the Kremlin's policies.
  • Mykola Kovach
    Mykola Kovach 18 September 2020 11: 34
    +2
    Professional, salaried fuck Markov once said on TV: "The greatest event of the 21st century is that we have Putin!" I would like to add: the most amazing discovery of zoologists and psychiatrists of the 21st century is Markov!
  • Dikson
    Dikson 18 September 2020 11: 47
    +1
    Here, Navalny will be awarded the Nobel Prize, then he will assemble a government in exile, all for Tikhanovskaya .. Following the idiotic accusations of the use of military agents, new sanctions will fall on the country .. Again, this is a pretext for an invasion and numerous international commissions and checks .. and in all these situations, Russia stands with cancer and babbles something in its own justification .. Several times I wrote here already - once from Navalny (I am convinced that this is a project not so much of the West, but of a certain Kremlin group) ALREADY blinded the fighter and the victim - let's bring the matter to logical end! For many years of attempts to overthrow the constitutional system, incitement to popular unrest and economic crimes - well, you will deprive him of his citizenship while he is abroad and all his affairs ... And let him sit there without permission to enter the country. Russia has long been known for its professional revolutionaries .. - I always wondered, but at what means did the same Ilyich happily squint his clever eyes at the spring sun in Switzerland and Germany .. and how many of them were there? And let Mr. Navalny write books and articles, sitting in the terminal of a German airport ... you see, they will immediately give him citizenship as a victim ... What's the problem with that? What, in the USSR they could do this, but in Russia they cannot? If they can't, then Navalny is VERY NECESSARY for someone in Russia .. It's very direct .. So you don't need to give such an opportunity .. And all this fuss with poisoning is just an excuse .. wait, this bottle from the hotel will pop up at the UN Assembly, like an unforgettable test tube of Powell ... And then all the bleating of our authorities will become completely ridiculous .. - because the script has already been written, the actors have repeated the roles ... - they will play like clockwork ..
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 18 September 2020 11: 51
    0
    An experiment is needed! We spray "Newbie" in the European Parliament, in the US Senate, in the House of Lords, if they remain alive, then Putin (not personally) hounded him, and if not, then not Putin.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 18 September 2020 11: 59
    0
    They found what they were looking for! And given the toxicity of the "Novichok" and the fact that no one was hurt, a fair question arises ..................... was there a boy? what
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 18 September 2020 12: 07
    0
    Yes, initially, large ears are also visible from behind.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 18 September 2020 12: 19
    0
    what nonsense is it to poison a BOV of a certain person, when any BOV is developed with the expectation of mass destruction. If the special services were working, he would have been laid down instantly in a thousand other ways, such as an accidental fight with a fatal outcome, an accident, a brick falling on his head ... but no, in the West, nothing smarter than the methods of Maria Medici using BOV can not come up with wassat
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 18 September 2020 12: 28
    -1
    Yes, out of habit, they stole water bottles, towels, a bathrobe and slippers from the hotel.)))
  • Hog
    Hog 18 September 2020 12: 36
    0
    The fact that this performance was clear from the very beginning.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 18 September 2020 14: 29
    -2
    Quote: kit88
    The UN session is coming soon. It seems like GDP, Trump should act.
    Remember K. Powell with a test tube?
    So go to the podium Lavrov with a container:
    "Here, gentlemen, here is A-232: N- (O-Methylfluorophosphonyl) -N ', N'-diethyl-acetamidine, your newcomer. Navalny is alive, the Skripals are alive, so he is not as dangerous as you say. There is those who want to experience it, drink a bottle, or even touch it with their hand? "

    You can mock as much as you like over poison, but he's the best in the world and there are no better analogues for special services. It's just that everyone is trying to use the minimum dose so as not to poison the whole city. Mixed so that the poisoning only caused a complete consumption of water.
  • rotfuks
    rotfuks 18 September 2020 14: 49
    -2
    There is another oddity in this story. Navalny's analyzes were transferred from a regular clinic to the Bundeswehr laboratory. Although, to establish the truth, they could transfer the analyzes to neutral Switzerland. But they transferred it to the Bundeswehr, which has nothing to do with healthcare. Why the analyzes of the foreigner Navalny were transferred there is a big mystery. And this is the common man being told about the Bundeswehr laboratory. But the Bundeswehr is a full member of NATO. And the Bundeswehr laboratories are certainly in common with other NATO members. Overall, the situation is unique. On the territory of Germany there are occupation troops, but the German army is in the same military bloc with the occupiers. Surely the Bundeswehr and the invaders have a common laboratory. It is not surprising that the invaders found something in Navalny's analyzes that could stop Nord Stream 2. After all, the invaders are very interested in stopping this gas pipeline.
  • awesom3-lutsevich
    awesom3-lutsevich 18 September 2020 15: 03
    0
    Didn't expect the Germans to take this bullshit
  • yfast
    yfast 18 September 2020 16: 32
    0
    The bottle said "Energy drink for beginners."
  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 18 September 2020 17: 04
    0
    Better to tell me why a pack of coronavirus pills costs 12000 rubles. Yes, with such "comrades" from the United Russia you will vote at least for Navalny, but only you will not allow anyone to come to power except your loved ones, 80% is good at recruiting in elections, the people just love the United Russia ...
    1. tatarin1972
      tatarin1972 18 September 2020 17: 14
      +1
      Do they exist ?! Or "unobtrusive network marketing" again ?!
  • tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 18 September 2020 17: 12
    +1
    There is no need to look for logic where it cannot be. Everything was decided long ago, we will be to blame for everything "in life". We ourselves are to blame for this. We are silent at the international level, our citizens are arrested abroad, we are charged with cases to which we are not involved. While we are timidly "otgavkivatsya", not to work with their own methods and will always.
  • Lontus
    Lontus 18 September 2020 20: 32
    +3
    real oppositionists to Putin are killed, and Putin's ministers of the informal opposition are taken to health tours abroad
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 18 September 2020 21: 12
    +1
    I can not understand. Was he hounded or where ?!
    If they were hounded, then why? Badly persecuted means.
    If they didn’t persecute, then it turns out, they didn’t persecute in vain ...
    Some miracles are happening to Comrade Tikhanovskaya ... To a certain extent, I would marry her. But my dear friend, only after leaving some dark games. Let's call it gloom and obscurantism.
    Where are the thoughts on the new sanctions? Related to these events. How will we react?
    RB now, as an honest person, is simply obliged to marry legally with the Russian Federation. Or how?!..
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  • Orrin
    Orrin 18 September 2020 22: 44
    +2
    evidence was taken by people involved in the poisoning in order to falsify the guilt of the Russian authorities

    These pro-Western liberals have nothing sacred. They don't care at all. If only Russia was under the heel of the West.
    1. Jaromir
      Jaromir 19 September 2020 22: 32
      +2
      Quote: Orrin
      These pro-Western liberals have nothing sacred

      Well, there is nothing sacred. Is it American money? This is sacred for them!
  • AML
    AML 18 September 2020 23: 28
    0
    Quote: Kamarada
    And who is this clever, took and allowed Lyokha to fly to Germany. And that he did not know the next step of the West?


    We did everything right. On the territory of Russia he would definitely be "bent" and the accusations were much more serious and it would be much more difficult to get out. And so they left themselves a very non-acidic field for maneuver. For example, it is quite officially possible to accuse the German authorities of poisoning. England can be accused of harboring a suspect. And so, the "poisoning" even among their citizens raises questions, and some can add 2 + 2 and the understanding comes that in England there was the same fake.

    Ours would like to do. Pfff, they would find some petty scumbag to whom Leshenka squeezed 10 haymakers and ruined his whole life, and that's all. And Leshenka would have been lying with a broken skull and 28 knives. And there would have been 100500 witnesses. And even a video was found, but not one.
  • AML
    AML 18 September 2020 23: 35
    0
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    If you do not know, then do not speak. Newbie's footprints were found on the bottle, not in the bottle. Navalny's people took the bottle in rubber gloves and packed it in an airtight bag.

    Ie, you assume that the one who poured the newcomer into the bottle had his hands shaking and he already spilled a couple of drops on the bottle? And after that he played on foot?
    1. Jaromir
      Jaromir 19 September 2020 22: 30
      +2
      Quote: AML
      And after that he played on foot?

      In Hollywood films, and not that happens. laughing
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 19 September 2020 06: 43
    0
    Markov followed the correct trail, but did not touch the most important thing. Leaving the room, a person hands over the keys. That is, the room is closed. And given the high demand for housing at this time of year, the room shouldn't have been empty.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 19 September 2020 18: 38
    +1
    Fakes will breed from any reason or no reason - this is the time.
  • Dmitry Zhuravlev
    Dmitry Zhuravlev 20 September 2020 09: 41
    0
    political scientist - this diagnosis is similar
  • AML
    AML 20 September 2020 16: 11
    0
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    [And now some boobies in the authorities, the proof is the capture of 4 of our GRU agents in the Netherlands, in the pocket of one agent, they found a receipt for paying for a taxi, which indicates the route from the address where the GRU military unit is located in Moscow to Sheremetyevo. This is what a goof one must be to carry such a receipt with you on a mission. And all the greed, they wanted to account for the trip and save the money of 850 rubles for a taxi.


    Excuse me? Military unit of the GRU? If the taxi fare from the airport is 850 rubles, then I assume that from the planes taking off you can see all the tanks and planes of the GRU, as well as the parked GRU submarines.