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Why should I love Belarusians?

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Should I love Belarusians? Interest Ask. Debt is generally such a concept ... So, most likely, it should not and should not, if there is no good reason for this.


And there is actually a reason. And not only weighty, it’s very weighty. Weighing one and a half billion. Dollars.

Today many people say out loud that this handout to Mr. Lukashenko from our president causes, to put it mildly, displeasure.

Indeed, $ 1,5 billion, which is “only” 112,5 billion rubles, is a lot. It's almost a thousand tanks T-90. These are three Yasen-class nuclear-powered submarines or 5 (!) Borei-class strategic missile carriers. These are 80 Su-35 fighters. This is a lot and useful.

And if translated into simpler, but no less significant projects, such as playgrounds, roads, gasified villages and other pleasures, then even more.

But we won't have all this. Because Putin will give the budget money to Lukashenka. In response to the next sweet-voiced songs about "brotherhood", the union state and other motives, which we have already heard quite a lot from Alexander Grigorievich.

But it is worth recalling that we have also heard a lot of various attacks from Mr. Lukashenka. About the same as the curtsies to Europe and the United States.

Considering that the stories about the “European” path of Belarus were voiced no less than about the fraternal path of the three peoples, then the price of the next conversations of the Belarusian president on the topic of the union state and other things is nothing more than just an attempt to get money.

And Lukashenka needs money. You have to pay the security officials who disperse the demonstrations and beat the people. It is necessary to pay judges who will pass sentences to those caught in the "embrace" of the system. It is necessary to pay officials who will continue to organize "fair" elections. You have to pay the media to cover all this.


In general, there is something to spend money on.

And Putin made it clear that Lukashenka still belongs to the cohort that "his own people do not abandon." At first, he promised help within the framework of the CSTO, since the President of Belarus hysterically broadcast about some stirrings of NATO forces near the country's borders, and some of us zealously supported this song.

Evidence, however, was never found. So the CSTO armies remained at the points of deployment, but urgently began to carry out maneuvers. To show the enemies who do not move that it is not worth moving.

But the above points still require money. And it was always tense with them in Belarus, and now, when strikes have become a common thing, even more so.

And Lukashenka asked for a little dollars to “bring Belarus out of the crisis”. From the crisis, into which he himself drove the country with his rule. Where to go? Don't give? So then Alexander Grigorievich will go crying for dollars to another place.

Many will object: what now, to take and release? Yes, probably. Buying another "brother" is becoming more and more expensive. Moreover, these "brothers" prefer not to give money.

Let me remind you how "brother" Yanukovych was given three billion for about the same. On the "brotherhood" of Ukraine. And where is Yanukovych now? Well, yes, the remnants of these billions live well near Moscow. And how much did they, billions, help in overcoming the political crisis in Ukraine? That's just it.


And who said that it would be different in Belarus?

Even if there really, as they say on TV, all the speakers, as one, are paid by the US State Department, from Poland and so on, even if Lukashenka fills the whole country in blood with our money, we still won't see them.

Simply because it is not customary for smaller brothers to repay debts. Taking is easy, but giving away - a hackneyed disc with a song about the "age-old union of fraternal peoples" is immediately turned on, and simultaneously with the song, the expectation of a new handout turns on.


So, alas, Lukashenka simply begged us for 1000 tanks or 80 aircraft. And one and a half billion dollars is the price we pay for him to still sit on the Belarusian throne. Perhaps raised the heir to the throne.

Not expensive?

Strange alignment. I was kind of asked about gays. About zeroing the terms of Putin's rule - too. But they did not talk about the pension reform. And about the financing of Lukashenko's rule at the expense of Russia - too.

But you also want to be a brother and someone who is not abandoned. So that I get something too. But it turns out that the money that I contribute to the budget goes to help the "brothers". And they stay there. "Brothers" all over the world are forgiven for debts, but for some reason I am not.

Good. Let's go back to the beginning. Should I love Belarusians or not?

Must.

In fact, I think that I am very, very obliged to the Belarusians. Belarus today in the state it is in is our future.

Why should I love Belarusians?




And I perfectly understand that everything starts small. Forged results of voting on the Constitution (whoever wants to, let him believe, I don’t believe), a bunch of ballot stuffings and forgeries in the elections that just took place, the authorities' absolutely disregard for this topic - we already have all this.

The past elections have shown that the gentlemen from the United Russia will go to any meanness and violations, just to stay in power. And Mrs. Pamfilova will make her eyes wide open and declare that all three and a half thousand of the presented violations are fakes and provocations.


Okay, what's the difference then? In Belarus, you can and should vote only for Lukashenko, in Russia - for Putin and United Russia. Everything else is from the evil one, because there is no one else for anyone else. Yes and no need. Everything is like in the USSR, which we love to remember so much, in the subject and without it. There is one contender - so stick your vote for him.

By the way, how they treat those who suddenly think they can infringe on the throne is also beautifully shown. Tikhanovsky, Babariko - and our Platoshkin. If there was a person to press for, the state would find.

How can we not love Belarusians when today the republic is the litmus test of our tomorrow? What is happening there today is our tomorrow.

Ballot stuffing and falsification is already the norm. Our discontent is not yet so expressed, but there is still time until 2024. And in fact, not so much is needed: we still need to squeeze the people in terms of income and extortions. And when the degree of people's love approaches the peak, right here, under the howling "They are all bought!" it will be possible to throw Rosgvardia into action. Was it in vain that they organized?

Now many (including on our website), like a mantra, repeat: "If only everything is not like in the nineties." There is no need to be sad, we are still ahead. We will see everything with you again: the dollar for 100 rubles, and oil for free, and higher taxes. The number of beggars on the streets has already noticeably increased, this is a direct indicator. Bicycles from parking lots are swept away, websites are full of theft announcements. Cars are still wearing shoes, but I think it's not far off.

But pawnshops are flourishing. And everyone has a handful of marginalized people. Crime is the first to react to all this. So we are confidently going into a bright future. The main thing, of course, is that gays do not pass and there is no war. But other…

And the rest is not particularly necessary for the inhabitants of a totalitarian undemocratic state. They will live somehow. The main thing is not like in the nineties and without gays.

So I am very grateful to the Belarusians who show me my tomorrow in Russia. By example. Therefore, I simply cannot but respect their position, their choice. And to be with those who are trying in a peaceful way, under articles, clubs, fists and boots, water cannons and gas to convey to the Belarusian dictator that their opinion must also be taken into account.

Belarus today is not Ukraine of 2014. I see.

Hopefully our future won't be like this. I would not want to fall under the solemn procession of ideas for a bright future, not knowing for whom it is the future, and for whom it is bright.
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  1. certero
    certero 19 September 2020 05: 20
    -19 qualifying.
    I don’t know about you, I have no doubts about the results of voting on the constitution.
    They are just generally similar to the state of society as it was.
    However, if you have facts of rigging the results, then you should contact the competent authorities not here, but contact the competent authorities.
    but about the loan in Belarus I agree, Ukraine has not given us a shit so far
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 19 September 2020 05: 36
      -1
      70% for it is impossible to draw. Even on one administrative resource (army, police, security forces, officials) more than 30% will not work.
      1. Deck
        Deck 19 September 2020 06: 03
        +8
        70% for it is impossible to draw


        How impossible it is! Another 10% are teachers and utilities. 20% drew. Lukashenka drew 80%, now these 80% of voters walk the streets in hundreds of thousands. But there is where to take money for free. And ours will have nowhere to run for money.
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 19 September 2020 06: 22
          39
          not in the horse feed ...
          having brains and a desire, the Kremlin could, for 1,5 lard (not to mention hundreds of lards thrown into LUKU), raise a whole galaxy of pro-Russian politicians in Minsk ... and then simply send the vertikhvost Luka back to his collective farm ...
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 19 September 2020 07: 44
            14
            Quote: kepmor
            having brains and desire for the Kremlin

            Indeed, sometimes thoughts come ... either there are no brains at all ... or something else interferes with thinking at the state level .. Wherever you look, everywhere incompetent, not calculated actions ..
            1. ximkim
              ximkim 19 September 2020 08: 07
              0
              The very moment, but they could take a loan from the IMF or the World Bank, but no, they will not forgive the loan ... Giving a loan to LAG will not lead to anything good, so it will only aggravate the internal situation (the game with taxes and excise duties has already begun). Nobody sees or understands this.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 19 September 2020 08: 33
                12
                ... $ 1,5 billion

                Mere pennies compared to how many billions are spent on Syria... But Syria is paid not only with money, but also with the blood of our soldiers. And after all, no one still really knows why Vladimir Vladimirovich is paying such a huge price there, on the distant approaches, in this distant country.

                I remember how our president, embarrassed, stressed that the duration of this military adventure is limited in time, hinting at the transience of this event. It’s a pity, I just didn’t name those frames, otherwise it lasts so indecently long that it is two years longer than the duration of the Second World War.

                How much this tsar's fun cost the Russians (without the lives of our soldiers) can only be guessed at, but it is clear that there are a lot (it would not have been a little hidden), and most likely that money would be enough, at least not to leave Russian old people without pensions.
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 19 September 2020 19: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Syria is paid not only with money, but also with the blood of our soldiers.

                  There are no conscripts, it seems, and the salaries are not bad at all. repeat
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 19 September 2020 20: 30
                    -3
                    Quote: Tank Hard
                    There are no conscripts, it seems, and the salaries are not bad at all.
                    Does it somehow change the fact that Russian people are dying there?
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 19 September 2020 21: 53
                      +8
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Does it somehow change the fact that Russian people are dying there?

                      People may or may not go there. The conscript has no choice. This is a big difference. And Russian people are dying in the Russian Federation, for various reasons and in large numbers.
                      1. Deck
                        Deck 20 September 2020 08: 05
                        -11 qualifying.
                        People may or may not go there. The conscript has no choice. This is a big difference.

                        I agree with you - they were not people. Why pity them. That's where they go
                      2. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 20 September 2020 09: 23
                        +7
                        Quote: Deck
                        I agree with you - they were not people. Why pity them. That's where they go

                        Do not attribute your wishes to me. Here we have a completely different position.
                      3. Deck
                        Deck 20 September 2020 14: 10
                        -6
                        I didn't understand about
                        Do not attribute your wishes to me.
                        ... What kind of desires have you made up here?
              2. Roman13579
                Roman13579 21 September 2020 09: 22
                -4
                and the salaries are not bad at all.
                From whose pocket, I wonder if they come from ..))
                For some reason, there is no money for "not bad" pensions ..
            2. EvilLion
              EvilLion 21 September 2020 09: 17
              +7
              If Putin did not spend a penny on Syria (planes would somehow throw bombs at exercises and consume kerosene with a resource), then perhaps you personally, or your children would already be sitting somewhere at a checkpoint in Central Asia, or in the Caucasus, expecting shelling every minute. Because after the fall of Assad, all this gang of barmaley would be left without work, and would go to do what they love to other places, where exactly they would be gladly prompted from the CIA and other structures. It is necessary to fight 1000 km (in fact, from Crimea to Syria, only 700 in a straight line) from our borders, by the wrong hands (the Syrians are running into the attack, ours are only bombing from the air, but covering the rear) and before everything goes to a known place ...
              1. Roman13579
                Roman13579 21 September 2020 09: 29
                -6
                If Putin did not spend a penny on Syria (planes would one way or another throw bombs at exercises and consume kerosene with a resource), then perhaps you personally, or your children would already be sitting somewhere at a checkpoint in Central Asia, or in the Caucasus, expecting shelling every minute.


                Or maybe they would live like people live in some Switzerland / Denmark / Australia ..
                Actually, if money is not spent / stolen, but started up, life should get better .. this is a fact ..
                And you can fantasize anything ..
                1. EvilLion
                  EvilLion 21 September 2020 09: 46
                  +7
                  Yes, you can fantasize anything, for example, join the EU and become the second France, and if you also get Polubotka gold! The reality is poverty, the war in the Donbass, the loss of three regions, the president is a clown. If the example of the Land of Edification does not teach anything, then I really do not know. The Syrian reality of 2015 is more than 100 thousand armed and well-organized thugs who for many years have not done anything except war and yelling about Alla in a bar. And if similar guys from Libya are separated from us by the Mediterranean Sea and their head hurts first of all in their immediate neighbors and Europe, into which the Libyans rushed from the war, then from Syria to the Caucasus, as it were, you can walk on foot. And they cannot but be sent there. Simply because no one in the US wants you to live like in Switzerland. Because Switzerland is a kind of small zone in Europe, which, according to a general agreement, no one touches, because everyone needs to keep their grandmothers safe somewhere, and negotiate in neutral, if anything. She can live well. And Russia is 140+ million mouths, and letting them eat at the level of the richest countries, so these richest countries will get less. Better to let these Russians sit somewhere in the trenches.
          2. dorz
            dorz 19 September 2020 14: 29
            +8
            Today, many are saying out loud that this handout to Mr. Lukashenko from our president causes, to put it mildly, displeasure ...


            Figures and facts on handouts

            Batka's support cost Russia $ 116,1 billion.

            This is the sum of spent non-refundable funds and lost profits for Russia since the beginning of Lukashenko's presidency in 1994 in 2019 prices. It consists of the following:

            • writing off $ 1,4 billion of debt under various agreements in 1996;
            • shortage of $ 40 billion due to understated gas prices;
            • overpayment of $ 1,5 billion in the privatization of Beltransgaz by Gazprom;
            • shortfall of more than $ 50 billion due to preferential oil supplies and non-refund of export duties;
            • loss of $ 3,5 billion caused by oil exports under the guise of duty-free "solvents and thinners" and uncontrolled import of duty-free Belarusian cigarettes.

            At the current exchange rate, $ 116,1 billion is more than £ 8,7 trillion, or 42% of the 2020 budget.

            Source: https://t.me/kremlin_mother_expert/17013
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 19 September 2020 20: 37
              10
              Quote: dorz
              lost profits

              Do you think that if these funds were not "wasted", they would somehow sideways affect the welfare of Russian citizens? belay
              Quote: dorz
              writing off $ 1,4 billion of debt under various agreements in 1996

              Count how much the Putin government has written "bad" debts to other countries, and for no apparent reason.
              All the other "omissions" listed by you are spelled out in the EAEU treaty, and the Russian government could easily have withdrawn from it if desired.
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion 21 September 2020 09: 20
                +1
                I’m wondering, you are so worried about Soviet debts, which, by the way, were not written off, but converted into certain acquisitions, but why don’t you ask questions to those who gave these debts in due time? This is even to Belarus, where at least its own people, and naturally blacks on the palm trees, it is obvious, because it was that any debts meet.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 21 September 2020 09: 30
                  0
                  Quote: EvilLion
                  I'm wondering if you're so worried about Soviet debts

                  Firstly, I would ask you not to poke, we are not familiar with you, and did not drink together. Secondly, old Soviet debts are also assets of Russia, which it is simply criminal to throw away.
                  Next, you talk about conversion - it won't be difficult to list into what?
                  1. EvilLion
                    EvilLion 21 September 2020 09: 52
                    +2
                    Access for Russian companies, political concessions.

                    When you owe the bank $ 10000 - these are your problems, when you owe the bank $ 10 million - these are the bank's problems. Because he will not return his money, even if he takes literally everything from you, and you personally into slavery. So the price of such assets is zero without a stick.
                  2. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 21 September 2020 10: 04
                    -1
                    Quote: EvilLion
                    So the price of such assets is zero without a stick.

                    Debt is always a lever of influence. Forgiving debts, you voluntarily get rid of the levers of political influence on the leadership of the debtor countries.
          3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 20 September 2020 23: 20
            +3
            Quote: dorz
            Father's support cost Russia $ 116,1 billion <...>
            since the beginning of Lukashenko's presidency in 1994 in 2019 prices <...>

            27 rubles a month from each citizen of the Russian Federation,
            or 400 rubles a month for each Belarusian.
            (in prices of 2019)
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 19 September 2020 08: 08
      +8
      Quote: kepmor
      not in the horse feed ...

      Something Roma sang in a hostile voice. crying
      Lukashenka, they say, is not good, they say, people are beaten. But in Ukraine, they did not finish off individual representatives of the people, also the whole Kuev ran with candles in front of McCain, not to mention the Maydauns, who rushed to the Berkut and what came of it?
      Lukashenka, indeed, sometimes was inadequate, but he used his tongue more. As for the loan, not the aid, then all, all countries that are global players in the world finance their "friends".
      The United States itself admits through the mouth of Nuland that $ 5 billion was spent on the Ukrainian Maidan ...
      Etc.
      Or does Roman think that Tihanovski hiding in Lithuania will be better than Luka?
      That is unlikely.
      And we have enough money for Su, T-90 and kindergartens, the main thing is that there is order. More "landings", an article for unjustified enrichment was introduced, etc. This is where the authorities have something to work on. It is not worth moaning about the loan aimed at preventing the Ukrainian scenario in Belarus, even "having brains" and repeating the stupidity about "hundreds of lards" and considering himself an "agronomist" for growing "a whole galaxy of pro-Russian politicians." wink
      1. svp67
        svp67 19 September 2020 11: 30
        21
        hi
        Quote: Alekseev
        Something Roma sang in a hostile voice.

        His voice.
        Quote: Alekseev
        Lukashenka, they say, is not good, they say, people are beaten.

        Bohemia, they have no nationality ...
        I will say this, to love or not to love this is everyone's business, but it concerns a specific someone or something.
        It is strange to "love" someone else's people, each nation consists of many people, both good and bad.
        And the Belarusians, these are really people from a different "test" who have been to Belarus, I think they will be able to confirm this. They just need to be understood and respected, as well as other peoples. Do not in any way treat them as "unreasonable children." It’s hard for “Syabram” now and they need help, they will never forget it.
        And the Lukashenkos come and go, the people remain
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 19 September 2020 12: 53
          14
          You should love them just because they speak the same language with us.
          1. Polente the Wanderer
            Polente the Wanderer 25 September 2020 17: 13
            0
            The former USSR everyone speaks Russian when they shout _Money come on_
        2. Roman13579
          Roman13579 21 September 2020 09: 27
          -1
          It’s hard for “Syabram” now and they need help, they will never forget it.

          Do not feed the horse ..
          I doubt that this money will add pensions to them ..
          Rather, as the author correctly noted, it will go to the security forces, judges and the media ..
          Here, the more money you give, the stronger the throne under Luka .. that's what people can definitely not forget ..
      2. dauria
        dauria 19 September 2020 15: 13
        +9
        Something Roma sang in a hostile voice.

        Come on. The site should pay off. And the owners seem to have learned how to do this, without getting into either the treasury or foreign sponsors. We put a bench at the entrance - sit down to get worn out. And in order not to get bored, they sit down either dissatisfied or satisfied. Otherwise, all of us here will slide down to complaints of rheumatism and the weather. One thing was not taken into account - the old man is leaving, and the young are not used to talking on the bench.
      3. Polente the Wanderer
        Polente the Wanderer 25 September 2020 17: 12
        0
        Who will plant himself? They are monuments ...
    3. Malyuta
      Malyuta 19 September 2020 13: 32
      28
      Quote: kepmor
      having brains and a desire, the Kremlin could, for 1,5 lard (not to mention hundreds of lards thrown into LUKU), raise a whole galaxy of pro-Russian politicians in Minsk ... and then simply send the vertikhvost Luka back to his collective farm ...

      I am very sorry, but you are confusing the pro-Russian with the pro-government.
      The question is, what can the current Russian oligarch = comprador system bring to Belarusians?
      Total privatization! Fields overgrown with weeds! Elimination of medicine and education! And what we ask for in 25-30 years, it will take place in a year.
      Do Belarusians need such a prospect ?!
    4. demo
      demo 19 September 2020 16: 00
      15
      In order to "grow a galaxy of pro-Russian politicians," the Kremlin should at least try to grow potatoes.
      From the Kremlin Michurinians are like a bullet from something.
      Well, neither the GDP, nor its environment is given to cultivate something. Weeding and cleaning are the masters.
    5. shultz21070
      shultz21070 20 September 2020 09: 36
      +1
      And not only there
    6. Victor Tsenin
      Victor Tsenin 20 September 2020 16: 36
      +1
      There, brains are perverted and work for something else, as if to graze and drain resources here and live well there, so that the offspring of Chubaki and Co., God forbid, do not become impoverished.
    7. Polente the Wanderer
      Polente the Wanderer 25 September 2020 17: 10
      0
      Nizya .. But what about the rollback? And you won't grow anyone on the leftovers after the rollback, if only the one who, as soon as he stops receiving money from us, immediately switches to the service of another. Money from the state should not be given to anyone, state money should be used only to support their supporters (NGOs), support the Russian language , culture ... And let commercial banks provide loans to another state in terms of income generation, and not as charity (this applies to state banks). And what kind of security (gold, ...) can be obtained against a loan provided by banks (incl. including and controlled by the state) themselves think ...
  2. Finches
    Finches 19 September 2020 08: 02
    -14 qualifying.
    Why do you twist all the time, however, this is an ordinary method, a bit of truth, and the rest is sheer lies - yes, state employees, they were asked to go and vote for the amendments without fail, but they did not instruct how to vote for the amendments! And, for example, in my family, my wife and I voted "For", and my neighbors on the staircase voted "For" (according to their words), but for some reason this is not taken into account by the critics - they drew it and that's it ...
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 13: 48
      0
      Everything is correct. It is necessary to drive the people to a vote to create the appearance of legitimacy, but the situation so far allows, on occasion, to draw sane figures - for. Although I think there is not so much if they do it. The people are pretty well deceived and not so bad while they live.
    2. Basil50
      Basil50 19 September 2020 22: 18
      -1
      My comment was deleted only for seeing the twitching.
      Quote: Vasily50
      The author so cunningly and smoothly translated his story about * rejection * of Belarusians into rejection of EP and RUSSIA. It feels like he was taught this.
    3. Nikolay Yurkevich
      Nikolay Yurkevich 20 September 2020 11: 14
      +4
      This is how it all began in Belarus. At first, they also asked to come to the elections ahead of schedule. And then those who do not agree to be the fascists were recorded.
  3. Spartanec
    Spartanec 19 September 2020 11: 08
    +8
    With your commentary, you want to say that 80% of those who support Tikhanovskaya are walking there (according to her statement). I made fun of it so much))) I don’t believe of course that Luka got 80%, but I don’t even doubt that he scored more than 50%. As for those who walk, Tikhanovskaya, according to official data, gained a little less than 10%. Belarus has 9.5 million people, ten percent of this is about 950 thousand people. So even this figure has never come out on protests, maybe 200 thousand at the most, and even then at the beginning it was only recruited. So do not write nonsense, although if you get paid for this nonsense then it is understandable.
    1. My doctor
      My doctor 19 September 2020 13: 08
      +4
      Quote: Spartanec
      Belarus has 9.5 million people, ten percent of this is about 950 thousand people. So even this figure has never come out to protests, maybe 200 thousand at the most, and even then at the beginning it was only recruited. So do not write nonsense, although if you get paid for this nonsense then it is understandable.

      1. The turnout was not 100%. An acquaintance of mine said that he does not mess with cheaters
      2. not all who voted for Tikhonovskaya participated in the protests. Mostly young people. Luca blunted himself once again. If he learns something, then the next elections will be held when students have a session.
    2. Revival
      Revival 19 September 2020 13: 57
      10
      So, according to you, it turns out that about 25% are rigged, then this is a crime and he is a criminal, a criminal who rigged at least 3% cannot hold the presidency
      1. tatra
        tatra 19 September 2020 14: 34
        +3
        How the enemies of the communists adore, with a hypocritical "righteous anger", to expose the crimes of others what they do themselves. In Russia in 1996, Yeltsin "won" with a 6% rating on the eve of the presidential elections in Russia. And not one of the enemies of the Communists was outraged by the falsification of the election results. Because it was PROFITABLE for them. Also, none of them resented the murder of people in and around the White House by Yeltsin in October 1993.
        1. Revival
          Revival 19 September 2020 14: 56
          +8
          1. I am not an enemy of the communists.
          I am against hypocrisy on any side for any reason!
          2. And what does Yeltsin have to do with the bottom, or if he is a criminal, now everyone can do it !!?
          3. And who is a communist in this situation, sly !?))
          PS
          I already wrote to you about the "enemies of the communists", very hackneyed ...
          It’s even interesting, do you respond to criticism of the weather without betraying yourself, starting the phrase with “enemies of the communists .....”?
        2. Igor Semenov
          Igor Semenov 19 September 2020 19: 04
          +2
          Probably the "enemies of the communists" did not protest in 1996 because the communist commander Zyuganov voluntarily merged his victory? I don't remember the violent protests of the commies in 1996
        3. Tank hard
          Tank hard 19 September 2020 19: 42
          -1
          Quote: tatra
          not one of the enemies of the communists resented the falsification of the election results. Because it was PROFITABLE for them.

          Do you mean Zyuganov? wink
    3. Nikolay Yurkevich
      Nikolay Yurkevich 20 September 2020 11: 23
      +6
      If he scored any number other than 80%. Whether it's 90% or 50%, he faked anyway hi And this is a criminal article. I am from Belarus, the city of Mozyr. He scored much less than 50% in my opinion. I have no acquaintances who voted for him. Except for 2 security officials and 1 chairman of the district executive committee.
    4. cmax
      cmax 20 September 2020 19: 35
      0
      Spartanec. And we, in Belarus, know for sure that the AHL did not get even 30% of the votes. Everything else is from the evil one. You should have seen how people went to the polls, hoping for a change. Nobody is against Russia, everyone is against the current president. It is a pity that there was no pro-Russian candidate. He would have won the election for sure, if counting honestly. Tired, tired of the mustache. Everyone understands that there is no future with him.
      1. Spartanec
        Spartanec 21 September 2020 02: 55
        +1
        I typed it) even his sworn friends from the West admitted it. As for the counting, I agree with you, I also do not believe in its absolute honesty. One thing I will say, those protests that have arisen now will help you to finally remove it. Another question is that you need a politician or rather a few who will really care about Belarus and not about the interests of other states. And this is definitely not the opposition that is now broadcasting there from behind the hill. Look around when you will make a choice in the future !!! Who are really your friends and who only pretends. It's up to you in your country. Be you another tribalism, Ukraine, etc., or be Belarus !!! And right now you have no choice, if you want to save the country, Luca must stay, FOR THE TIME it takes to create another political system.
      2. Oprichnik
        Oprichnik 24 September 2020 20: 21
        0
        If you are tired - go to bed - rest. And about the "certainties": Did you stand at each polling station and ask: who voted for whom? Don't make people laugh. Lukashenka scored more than 50%, but his entourage decided to "raise his rating" out of toadying and attributed the 80%. Stupidity bordering on crime. And this was one of the factors that caused the prepared performance of the crowd of zombie youngsters. And the fact that everything was prepared was proven at least by the mass of police flags smuggled from Poland. Especially these 20-meter panels.
    5. Roman13579
      Roman13579 21 September 2020 09: 39
      0
      If he scored more than 50%, then 80 - he wouldn't have to draw ..
  4. Malyuta
    Malyuta 19 September 2020 13: 23
    17
    Quote: Deck
    But there is where to take money for free. And ours will have nowhere to run for money.

    He has rich and very intelligent friends who have achieved their greatest prosperity with the highest patron and benefactor.
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          1. _Sergei_
            _Sergei_ 19 September 2020 09: 55
            0
            In Canada, under the watchful eye of the NSA. Since Canadian intelligence is under their control
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      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 19 September 2020 08: 44
        12
        Quote: Senka Mad
        It's really a shame that this site has turned into another pro-Western trash heap.

        Go to Politicus, there is a Russian analogue censor there today. not. Everyone who is not for Putin is banned for a long time. You will be right there.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 19 September 2020 07: 48
      11
      Quote: Vasily50
      The author so cunningly and smoothly translated his story about * rejection * of Belarusians into rejection of EP and RUSSIA. It feels like he was taught this.

      It feels like you were taught, but not learned, there are no intelligible arguments left, you need to get personal.
      Any normal person projects different situations, and given that everything is very similar with Belarusians .. then the parallel given by the author is understandable.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 19 September 2020 08: 17
        11
        Vladimir. The parallel is not clear, because our authorities and their bodies are much more advanced in dealing with the dissatisfied than the authorities and bodies in Belarus. The authorities there are spoiled by the former seeming serenity of society. Our organs are trained. They know who to isolate and when. Examples. There have been protests in Khabarovsk for two months now - and not a single crackdown, because the authorities know that the protests will not go beyond. In Moscow, it is different. I remember how Kasparov bit a riot policeman. But now they are taking hands and feet, not dragging on the ground. If it happened to drag, then there will be an analysis.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 19 September 2020 11: 19
          +8
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          Examples. There have been protests in Khabarovsk for two months now - and not a single crackdown, because the authorities know that the protests will not go beyond.

          That's right, there are no overclocks, because as soon as they are overclocked, the whole country can rise .. Far East and Siberia for sure .. For this reason, they do not overclock. But I don’t agree that our authorities are more advanced, it’s just that so many people haven’t come out, as soon as Moscow and St. Petersburg come out, all those promoted on private planes will fly to the hated Europe ..
        2. Revival
          Revival 19 September 2020 13: 59
          +5
          How disgusting and hypocritical it is, here we disperse it because it is not legal, but here it is not.
          What about the law?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 19 September 2020 19: 43
            +8
            Quote: Revival
            How disgusting and hypocritical it is, here we disperse it because it is not legal, but here it is not.
            What about the law?

            What is the law, there is no law .. or rather for the layman he .. but they are not written.
            1. Revival
              Revival 19 September 2020 22: 03
              +6
              Yes, as a lawyer can confirm with highly specialized examples, the legality has degraded, this is especially noticeable this year, a huge acceleration of the transition process, as I call it, "to concepts", the Supreme Court stands out extremely (below the plinth) ..
              Briefly, for example, the clarifications "about the financial ombusman" dated March 18.03.2020, 95, in fact, by XNUMX% deprive a person of the right to judicial protection in a dispute with an insurance company; the bill on tax priority over the right of the mortgagee, But not the Banks! etc. etc......
              And what a feint looms with the promising "credit holidays", in the countries of the decaying West for such a feint "bankers" are severely punished, we have this norm, it seems like this feint is called missiling like ... yesterday, even in the news, those who wish can get acquainted with this disgusting trap, etc.
    3. Pytnik
      Pytnik 19 September 2020 07: 59
      -17 qualifying.
      Yes, it has long been clear to whose mill this buffoon is pouring water ... everything in Russia is bad for him and everything is not so for him ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 19 September 2020 08: 26
        21
        Quote: Pytnik
        Yes, it has long been clear to whose mill this buffoon is pouring water ... everything in Russia is bad for him and everything is not so for him ...

        And in your opinion, everything is so good in Russia that there is nothing to criticize? Or the sharp corners that Roman shows are more convenient not to notice?
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          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 19 September 2020 10: 31
            15
            Quote: _Sergey_
            An article about Belarus. You see how the opponents of Belarus have perked up. It's just that the author voices the opinion of Lithuania and Poland. And he doesn't care about Russia.

            I am afraid that the article is not so much about Belarus as about our near future. But at least Lukashenka has kept the industry, but what about us?
            1. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 19 September 2020 11: 56
              -5
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: _Sergey_
              An article about Belarus. You see how the opponents of Belarus have perked up. It's just that the author voices the opinion of Lithuania and Poland. And he doesn't care about Russia.

              I am afraid that the article is not so much about Belarus as about our near future. But at least Lukashenka has kept the industry, but what about us?

              What industry are you talking about ?; TV / radio where is she?; light / pr. where is she ?; micro / electronic - where is she ?;
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 19 September 2020 13: 00
                13
                no need to star, they still make electronics, unlike us. Here is an example: "Research and Production Association" Integral "(Minsk) produces more than 1,5 types of integrated circuits, more than 400 types of semiconductor devices, 40 types of liquid crystal displays and panels, more than 150 types of consumer goods, 60 types of special technological equipment. "
                1. Sklendarka
                  Sklendarka 19 September 2020 15: 13
                  -2
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  no need to star, they still make electronics, unlike us. Here is an example: "Research and Production Association" Integral "(Minsk) produces more than 1,5 types of integrated circuits, more than 400 types of semiconductor devices, 40 types of liquid crystal displays and panels, more than 150 types of consumer goods, 60 types of special technological equipment. "

                  And I'm not a star ... Have you heard of such a pr-ve as MZVT? - Where is it? Integral?, Don't tell my slippers ... only a shadow remains from him ...
                  You, after all, red-haired Tolyan also releases a lot of things, am I mistaken? - correct ... Y / his mobile in the drawbar with all the holy apostles and their mother's god ...
            2. Igor Semenov
              Igor Semenov 19 September 2020 19: 09
              +1
              What's the use of industry if it exists only with constant help from Russia? With a few exceptions, Belarusian enterprises are profitable as long as the Russian Federation buys their products.
            3. Tank hard
              Tank hard 19 September 2020 19: 39
              -9
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              But at least Lukashenka has kept the industry, but what about us?

              Does Luka have such projects?
              And in the Russian Federation it is still possible ...
              Is it possible without industry?
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 19 September 2020 20: 08
                -7
                Quote: Tank Hard

                Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)
                5
                Today, 19: 39

                -1

                No, well, you can hate and minus as much as you like, but without industry such projects are impossible. request laughing
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 19 September 2020 20: 48
                  10
                  Quote: Tank Hard
                  but without industry such projects are impossible

                  I'm not minus you, but you shouldn't call animation an industry. Different terms. In the video, apart from blah blah and those who have set the teeth on edge, "they will soon create" nothing.
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 19 September 2020 22: 00
                    -5
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    but you shouldn't call animation an industry. Different terms. In the video, apart from blah blah and those who have set the teeth on edge, "they will soon create" nothing.

                    Not so long ago, in the West, they shouted a lot about animation about various new weapons, for which some worthy people are now being awarded. Now the cries about animation have died down, but the cry is growing that this is a terrible and unhuman weapon that should be banned, and in general everything has been stolen from the Americans. laughing Apparently they do not agree with your statement that all this:
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    except blah-blah and those who have set the teeth on edge "will soon create" nothing.

                    But you, as always, know everything better than anyone. wink
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I do not minus you

                    I do not believe you. repeat
            4. ver_
              ver_ 20 September 2020 11: 03
              0
              .. and we have gas and water supply in our apartment ...
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 13: 56
        15
        Skomorokhov pours water into his mill. The State Department suddenly has nothing to do with it. laughing And nevertheless, despite the pursuit of deeply personal interests, he is largely right. Putin is as tired as Lukashenka. Of course, all that shit that has accumulated in our country is not only and not so much his handiwork, but the majority associates it with him. The situation in our economy is also bad, over the thirty years of the construction of developed capitalism, the people in general received a little more than nichrome, and so far the situation is not as acute as in other countries, but Khabarovsk is the first bell.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 19 September 2020 19: 51
          -2
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          The situation in our economy is also bad, for thirty years of building developed capitalism, the people in the mass received a little more than nichrome,

          In the "developed countries of victorious capitalism," the people received about the same. Their path is simply longer, and the world was plundered more. request
  • Stas157
    Stas157 19 September 2020 06: 40
    24
    Quote: siberalt
    70% for it is impossible to draw

    Lukashenka proved that 80% is possible.
    In Chechnya, 97,92% voted for the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. And before that, a fabulous 99% for Putin.
  • Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 19 September 2020 06: 49
    19
    Quote: siberalt
    70% for it is impossible to draw.

    "There are many things in the world, friend Horatio, that our wise men never dreamed of."
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 19 September 2020 09: 01
    +3
    Quote: siberalt
    70% for it is impossible to draw. Even on one administrative resource (army, police, security forces, officials) more than 30% will not work.

    You are very categorical, 70% is not 146%, is it?
  • atalef
    atalef 19 September 2020 11: 23
    +8
    Quote: siberalt
    70% for it is impossible to draw

    come on.
    Everything is possible
    1. mihail_mihail0620
      mihail_mihail0620 19 September 2020 12: 17
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      Everything is possible

      Out of 150% of those who voted +.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 13: 41
      +4
      Comrades Israelis are still jealous. laughing
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 19 September 2020 19: 53
        -1
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Comrades Israelis are still jealous

        They "monitor the situation" .. wink laughing laughing
    3. Nikolay Yurkevich
      Nikolay Yurkevich 20 September 2020 11: 26
      +1
      lol lol lol This is generally the classics !!!
  • sergo
    sergo 19 September 2020 13: 31
    +4
    You are a naive person! Both 50% and 80% are drawn. I think that soon 99% will draw. In 2024.
  • nnz226
    nnz226 19 September 2020 21: 36
    +3
    Who said there: "It does not matter how they vote, it is important how the votes are counted!" ???
    1. Nikolay Yurkevich
      Nikolay Yurkevich 20 September 2020 11: 28
      +3
      One friend of mine told me so. He was the chairman of an election commission in one city in Belarus. In the last election.
  • zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 20 September 2020 22: 11
    -1
    The sum of all votes for candidates and against all is still 98,84% ... And practically no one voted for Lukashenka among workers, doctors, teachers, individual entrepreneurs. And he "got" as much as eighty percent! ..
  • Oprichnik
    Oprichnik 24 September 2020 20: 10
    0
    Dear Oleg, add the votes of 3 million pensioners and just sane people. The fact that there was more than 55-60%, I'm sure, but why was it a sycophant to invent these 80%? This is from a small mind and podhamage.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 06: 14
    22
    Quote: certero
    However, if you have facts of rigging the results, then you should contact the competent authorities not here, but contact the competent authorities.

    No one (according to the constitution) is given the right to usurp power. Today's multi-day campaign has become a dastardly electoral law, with a theoretical percentage barrier that prevents the election of candidates supported by millions. The absence of the column: "Against all" and the automatic cancellation of the voting results at the polling stations with revealed (subject to criminal punishment) violations, gave the local administration the right to "draw" EVERYTHING !!! anything at the top. And this is yours:
    Quote: certero
    then you are not here, but contact the competent authorities.

    against the background of the most humane courts and polite people with batons in uniform sounds like a mockery. And there is only one reason for this: the self-proclaimed “nobility” who has grasped the “trough” (it is she herself who assigns titles, academic degrees and awards) will never give way in a legal way.
    If you wanted to teach us something, then you are not here. There, in Moscow, people gather in defense of the illegal arrest of the PNP. Go through, tell them about law and reality.
    1. blackice
      blackice 19 September 2020 07: 45
      +5
      against the background of the most humane courts and polite people with batons in uniform sounds like a mockery.

      you know, I am not a supporter of Lukashenka and such methods of treating the people.
      But it is precisely this situation in Belarus that reminds me of the educational process in a school of Soviet times, when for drawing on a desk, in a textbook from a teacher, you could get a ruler-pointer on your hands. And we quickly realized that we shouldn't do that. And then they didn't do it, and with age they also realized that it was right.
      So now in Belarus Lukashenka is trying to give up on the case.
      Can't you see where the ears grow from?
      It is not for nothing that the mattress covers of the Balts were praised for their contribution to democracy on the territory of Belarus.
      In fact, the mattress covers sleep and see uraine-2. And as soon as Western democracy triumphs on the territory of Belarus, the Belarusians will have nowhere to work. Those collective farms and factories that are now will perish overnight.
      1. Deck
        Deck 19 September 2020 12: 15
        -5
        So now in Belarus Lukashenka is trying to give up on the case.


        And many believe that it is not enough to put Lukashenko on a stake for such a war against his own people .. I hope that this will happen. It's a pity that because of the stupid policy of the leaders of our country, we can quarrel with the Belarusians for a long time
        1. blackice
          blackice 20 September 2020 02: 56
          -2
          Belarusian people?
          You never understood the meaning of what you read.
          Well, try on your own, Belarusian Maidan.
          Some have already jumped, your turn.
          I hope that when you clean the toilet Ukrainians (after all, the Ukrainians have already worked out everything in Europeans), remember what I wrote, as my father recalled, in Kharkov, in 2018, how good it was with a bad Yanyka, and how bad it was with a good Parashka.
      2. My doctor
        My doctor 19 September 2020 13: 23
        +1
        Quote: blackice
        But it is precisely this situation in Belarus that reminds me of the educational process in a school of Soviet times, when for drawing on a desk, in a textbook from a teacher, you could get a ruler-pointer on your hands.

        From our city there was the head of the BFLA (Belarusian Athletics Federation) on his page scribbled “Lukashenka is not my president”, now he is with his brother in a psychiatric hospital, his brother, however, was a little crushed by unknown teachers, but left alive.
        1. blackice
          blackice 20 September 2020 02: 57
          -7
          And they did it right.
          I just think that now it is necessary to issue an invoice for the treatment, so that I would feel all the charm of market relations.
      3. Terrible GMO
        Terrible GMO 19 September 2020 14: 47
        +6
        So now in Belarus Lukashenka is trying to give up on the case.
        Can't you see where the ears grow from?

        From the desire of this tick to rule forever. This is where the ears grow.
        And as for "hand and hand on the matter," I hope that still Russians will not have to experience all the delights of life in a state where the law enforcement system has turned into an exclusively punitive one, the judicial system has turned into an accusatory system with complete disregard for laws, with the prosecutor's office which sees a criminal offense in painting a fence, but for murder and torture, no.
        1. blackice
          blackice 20 September 2020 02: 59
          -4
          From the desire of this tick to rule forever. This is where the ears grow.

          I'm interested in the level of your development, or the troll's salary.
          The desire to rule forever, or to keep the country's manufacturing base?
          1. Roman13579
            Roman13579 21 September 2020 10: 15
            0
            to maintain the country's production base?

            Hospadi .. how old are you ?? You live in some kind of not even fantasies .. but in a fairy tale ..))
            1. blackice
              blackice 5 October 2020 08: 20
              0
              I will be more years old, judging by your nickname.
              You are living fantasies about the warm embrace of Europe.
      4. Max otto
        Max otto 20 September 2020 14: 41
        0
        Quote: blackice
        you know, I am not a supporter of Lukashenka and such methods of treating the people.
        But it is precisely this situation in Belarus that reminds me of the educational process in a school of Soviet times, when for drawing on a desk, in a textbook from a teacher, you could get a ruler-pointer on your hands. And we quickly realized that we shouldn't do that. And then they didn't do it, and with age they also realized that it was right.
        So now in Belarus Lukashenka is trying to give up on the case.
        Can't you see where the ears grow from?
        It is not for nothing that the mattress covers of the Balts were praised for their contribution to democracy on the territory of Belarus.
        In fact, the mattress covers sleep and see uraine-2. And as soon as Western democracy triumphs on the territory of Belarus, the Belarusians will have nowhere to work. Those collective farms and factories that are now will perish overnight.

        In your example, you did not discuss the identity of the teacher who is going to shake hands. In the Belarusian example, this is a teacher who bought a diploma, came drunk and still smokes in class. What moral right does he have? Moreover, no one draws on desks, everyone just wants him not to smoke and be sober.
        1. blackice
          blackice 21 September 2020 04: 12
          0
          In your example, you did not discuss the identity of the teacher who is going to shake hands. In the Belarusian example, this is a teacher who bought a diploma, came drunk and still smokes in class. What moral right does he have? Moreover, no one draws on desks, everyone just wants him not to smoke and be sober.

          Once again for the gifted: By the right of the fact that this is the last country in the post-Soviet space, which has retained its own production base and agriculture.
          Without wells with oil and gas, the country lives, has good roads, normal agriculture, in the absence of the rich in the Forbes lists. Just ask you not to poke yellow pages with lists of dollar millionaires of Belarus. If it were really so, then Forbes did not disdain to poke at Lukashenka.
          1. Max otto
            Max otto 21 September 2020 20: 51
            0
            Once again for the deaf-blind. There is a Law. It was violated primarily by the guarantor of legality. Every day is violated by other guarantors of legality. To be honest, show the ballots, count them in several sections. But ... They are not already, destroyed, and must be kept for 6 months. Also a violation of the law. The CEC ignores statements of violations, they can be carried there by the thousands (they will simply be thrown out).
            What does this have to do with the achievements? Thanks for them.
            What about the law? You first himself answer.
    2. Mihail80
      Mihail80 19 September 2020 10: 32
      -10 qualifying.
      The absence of a column: "Against all" and what confuses you with this item. Well, put that in the ballot two, three or all the check marks, crosses or something else. Everything - the ballot is not valid, it is "against all".
      Judging by your avatar, you are a scoop. Well, I'm a scoop to the bone. Only after all, you need to understand that the minced meat cannot be rolled back and you cannot restore meat from cutlets. It is impossible to restore the Soviet Union, no matter how anyone wants it.
      And when the Communist Party of the Russian Federation united with the liberals together in the destruction of the country, after that there can be no talk of any communism - socialism.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 11: 56
        16
        Quote: Mihail80
        Judging by your avatar, you are a scoop.

        You will poke your partner when the acne disappears, because, judging by the avatar, you are a miscarriage of the USE.
        If you do not know (or whatever you have - "out of the house"), then I remind you that neither I nor my peers call ourselves "scoops". Yes, we are from the USSR. BUT!!! We do not expect the restoration of the USSR. We are more pleased with the socialist economic system and social policy, which made it possible not to know another country where people breathed so freely.
        As for the column "Against all", its main task (in case of victory in the elections) is to exclude those who participated in the elections from the list of candidates. Thus, by voting against everyone, the voter weeded out random people.
        Quote: Mihail80
        And when the Communist Party of the Russian Federation united with the liberals together in the destruction of the country

        In the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (in the majority) there were opportunists from the CPSU, who only chatted incessantly. Even when Zyuganov won the majority (in the 1996 elections), he just about $$ ... Xia and gave control of the country to EBN. After this procedure, faith in real deeds from the CPRF disappeared forever.
        A strong adversary is always more attractive than a smear oppositionist.
        So, approximately ... hi
        1. Mihail80
          Mihail80 19 September 2020 12: 41
          -2
          And what is so harsh - then. If the avatar is Krymsky Most, then its owner "miscarriage of the exam"? Deep delusion. And what about social justice - so someone is against it? And I am not at all ashamed to call myself a scoop (as well as a quilted jacket, Colorado and Putinist), because my happy childhood was spent under my grandfather Brezhnev.
          Only for this it is not necessary to turn the country upside down once again, as many of us want, and even more so over the hill.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 00
        0
        Quote: Mihail80
        And when the Communist Party merged with the liberals together

        Still you could clearly explain that in the Communist Party of the Communists in addition to the sign.

        Quote: Mihail80
        after that, there can be no talk of any communism - socialism.

        Quite possibly. And it should even be just for the reason that your beloved Communist Party is the same capitalists as Trump, Putin and Chubais.
        1. Mihail80
          Mihail80 19 September 2020 14: 13
          +1
          And you are not beguiled about my "favorite KPRF".
          Wrong address claim.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 18: 22
            +1
            I look you can not at all in sarcasm. While trying to demagoguery. But here you screw up shamefully.
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    1. kepmor
      kepmor 19 September 2020 08: 48
      +6
      and indeed with your "brain Putinism" only bulk with Soros and agents of the State Department can only see around them ...
      I'll see what you'll sing here when your pet Luka once again puts a pig down ...
      and it will certainly happen in the near future ...
      1. Finches
        Finches 19 September 2020 08: 49
        -11 qualifying.
        Personally, he didn't lay a pig on me, if you ... It happens! laughing You can't please everyone - how many people, so many opinions!
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 12: 03
          +9
          Quote: Finches
          You can't please everyone - how many people, so many opinions!

          Straight from the school curriculum:
          Molchalin (Zyablintsev)
          In my summer should not dare
          His judgment to have.
          Chatsky
          Mercy, we are not guys,
          Why are the opinions of others only holy?
          Molchalin (Zyablintsev)
          After all, one must be dependent on others.
          Chatsky
          Why is it necessary?
          Molchalin (Zyablintsev)
          We are small in ranks.

          And all my life I liked:
          To serve would be glad, it is sickening to serve.

          hi
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 19 September 2020 19: 57
            -1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            And all my life I liked:
            To serve would be glad, it is sickening to serve.

            They rose to colonel-general .. laughing
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    5. depressant
      depressant 19 September 2020 09: 24
      12
      Zyablitsev, how can you talk about Roman? How not ashamed to use such unworthy, so low-grade and clearly fictional arguments in a dispute? You're an officer!
      But, apparently, you are the officer who, unlike many others, is treated kindly by the authorities and therefore with impunity defame a person who has a heart for the country.
      Indeed, what kind of dispute will turn out when one side uses arguments like "Skomorokhov was bought by the West", and the other - something like "Putin is a thief"? And think? And analyze the situation? We live in humanity, it affects us. It is necessary to analyze how we respond to challenges from the inside and outside, how correct our answers are, and if they are wrong, then why.
      I just read yesterday that medicine from covid will cost 12 per pack and less from manufacturers, and my answer to this internal challenge is this: if people are not treated with that medicine for free amid the growing second wave of the epidemic, and the wave is really gaining amplitude, it is cheaper to die. Will Putin find money for free treatment of all his citizens? Or does he only have money to treat Lukashenka's mediocre policy?
      1. Finches
        Finches 19 September 2020 09: 29
        -7
        I did not defame anyone, with your permission, but what kind of officer I am, I apologize not for you to judge - I expressed my point of view, in my opinion, this is your very "concern for the country", I personally take it as a specially staged whining to please opponents Russia, just hiding behind, like "rooting for the country" - this is where it all starts! Moreover, he said that I have the impression! I do not impose it on you! hi
        1. depressant
          depressant 19 September 2020 10: 47
          +9
          Zyablitsev !!! Fear God! If I have a director, it's me!
          Considering me being controlled by someone, you insulted me! Challenge my arguments!
          Otherwise, for example, I can reproach you with the fact that having reached a certain peak of personal stability, you have not come to the understanding that it is impossible to approximate your situation at all. And even more so to extrapolate it to the future of the entire population of the country.
          People, rich and poor, are anxious. Some rich people rushed to buy housing abroad - purchases increased by 20% in August! Others, less wealthy, rushed to buy housing in Bashkir villages in
          foothills of the Urals. They say there is Putin's bunker nearby in case of a nuclear attack. And the poor can only count the pennies and gaze intently at their homes in search of what can be sold on occasion in order to physically prolong their existence. And if the gold has already been carried to the pawnshops, then this is a signal of trouble.
          And there are many similar signals.
          For example, I perceive the absence of at least some small production in our village as a signal of trouble. The village has not been developing industrially for 15 years! But inside there are many shops built, of which only small ones are ours, supermarkets are no longer ours, hypermarkets and malls in the vicinity are not originally ours. This is not the same progress!
          Yes, I know about new engines and turbines, I know about rewarding developers and manufacturers. But this is a drop in the ocean!
          We are hopelessly behind in some way, we have been colossal in braking. And in exactly the same way we slow down both in foreign and domestic politics, constantly finding ourselves on the staircase, witty phrases speaking towards the door closed in front of us.
          And all because our political power stupidly does not understand that the people are also an actor in our history, giving birth to leaders of a new type within themselves, in accordance with the historical time. How regrettable it is for a government that has become stagnant in the past.
          Closing social elevators in front of such leaders for 30 years, they have accumulated colossal internal political tension - both in our country and in Belarus. The tension that throws dubious pro-Western figures like Tikhanovskaya onto the surface of history as a result of resistance to the authorities. And no amount of billions of dollars can remove this tension.
          1. Finches
            Finches 19 September 2020 11: 03
            -3
            All I wanted to say, I said! And I have nothing more to add hi
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 07
              +8
              Well, what is good for you, while others have a deluge, we understood it. But you still live on this planet. So if everyone has a flood, you will also have it.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 12: 39
          12
          Quote: Finches
          I personally perceive your very "concern for the country" as a specially orchestrated whining to please the opponents of Russia,

          How much pathos ...
          For the sake of which opponents of Russia? Who helped to "take over the country" under the EBN and today head the Institute "NUINU", excuse me, "NANO" technologies? Yes, surrounded by the "guarantor" selected cadres of opponents of the power of Russia. For decades they did not fulfill plans, decrees and raised the Western economy and the financial institutions of the EU and the USA ...
          Do you think we should be happy about this? Rejoice at the "curtailment" of Russian production and the degradation of science, health care and education? Yes, the flag is in your hands. I suppose, on holidays, attach it to the "Lada-Kalina"?
          This is how you root for the country? How long did they stand up for a long standing ovation at the presentation of the Hero of Russia to Rottenberg? Didn't they bruise your palms in a standing ovation for "Andrew the First-Called" for Matvienko and the Order of Merit ... for Medvedev? Are these your idols? You, along with Speaker Volodin, think that in a country where:
          Article 3
          1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

          - the only property - Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin?
          Well, how can I (or still not?) Agree with you?
          I prepared a chant for you here (almost according to Mayakovsky):


          fellow fellow fellow
        3. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 04
          +8
          Og just like in 1917. The common people fed the lice in the trenches and dox in batches. While the then effective managers were making money in the war. And then suddenly a revolution. And really, why would she happen? This is clearly the trick of the Anglo-Saxons. The people simply dreamed of dying for the interests of capital.
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 09: 51
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: depressant
        I just read yesterday that medicine from covid will cost 12 per pack and less from manufacturers, and my answer to this internal challenge is this: if people are not treated with that medicine for free amid the growing second wave of the epidemic, and the wave is really gaining amplitude, it is cheaper to die. Will Putin find money for free treatment of all his citizens? Or does he only have money to treat Lukashenka's mediocre policy?

        Have you tried to use preventive measures? Wear a mask, and not a disposable one, but at least a 1st class respirator bought in a hardware store? Use gloves? And not going to picnics during a pandemic?
        The state asked, and persuaded, and tried to influence the dissidents, who fundamentally did not comply with the regime of self-isolation, and to the question "Why not?" hysterical in response, speaking about their "civil rights" and about the absence of an article in the Criminal Code for non-observance of precautions. Each of us watched the picture of how simple and short-sighted people in shops, playgrounds, and resorts spat on all measures to prevent infection with the infection all summer. And now we have an autumn outbreak.
        There is a whole list of diseases transmitted by tactile contact, the treatment of which is off scale. But the price of 12 thousand for the treatment is not yet the limit.
        And who treats in hospitals and clinics and for what funds, does the next operations of all types? How nice and pleasant it is to exclaim, wringing your hands, that they say the medicine is too expensive! Visit cancer centers, inquire - how much the country will receive treatment for cancer patients.
        May God grant that the problem with Covid-19 is an urgent problem today here and now.
        1. depressant
          depressant 19 September 2020 11: 17
          +7
          Colleague stakerwalker, if reproaches to me, then to the wrong address: I am the only one in the whole village who never took off my mask, going out into the street. And gloves - appeared on sale, tight-fitting, but did not fit me, there is no suitable M either in stores or in a pharmacy. But it's not that. Even if you walk in a spacesuit, the disease will get you. Can get it. And you will not notice the situation when it happens. My question is different: will the authorities get enough money to treat their citizens for free? Or, during the growing second wave of the epidemic, money will be found to help Lukashenko, to repair the Government House, but not to save the population?
          How do you think - you personally?
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 12: 41
            -9
            Quote: depressant
            reproaches to me, then to the wrong address: I am the only one in the whole village who did not take off my mask, going out into the street.

            Yes. Sure. The Tsar-Father is to blame, because the boyars are bad ...
            Quote: depressant
            Even if you walk in a spacesuit, the disease will get you.

            With such thoughts, you can immediately go to the churchyard - order places ...
            We are all mortal. But we shouldn't blame the state for being expensive. This is a song from the opera that there was nothing to hold Olympiads with championships, and to build a Crimean bridge, and finally, money should be distributed to all the disadvantaged.
            Quote: depressant
            Or, during the growing second wave of the epidemic, money will be found to help Lukashenka, to repair the Government House, but not to save the population

            If this "population" literally "scored" all the precautions, then no medicine will save it.
            Why is a covid dissident better than a terrorist with a bomb in his backpack? What kills not immediately, but slowly and gradually?
            Those who deliberately violate all measures of prevention of Covid-19 can be equated with peace of mind to a walking biological threat. With all that it implies.
            And talking about saving the population at the current moment, in the process of discussing aid to Belarus, is like "hammering" on the fate of the citizens of Belarus. Or are you still sure that the allocated funds will go to the golden toilet bowls in the Grygorich residence?
            No offense, but your interpretation reminds me of the ladies from the #yamat series. No more. And somehow it smelled gray from Navalny ...
            1. depressant
              depressant 19 September 2020 14: 01
              10
              Colleague stalkerwalker, and you, open the window, ventilate! ))) Maybe it's someone near you in real life radiates sulfur? Isn't the devil walking around you, eh? He walks and pushes him under the arm to tap out malicious comments towards colleagues. And to conclude from the comments that the demand for the salvation of Belarus takes precedence over the salvation of its own people. What the audience is unlikely to be happy about.
              The meaning of my comment is that if funds were found to save Belarus, then they must also be found to save their own people from a pandemic - they have already passed 6000 cases! And if not, then what is the point of saving Belarus?
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 14: 12
                -9
                Quote: depressant
                The meaning of my comment is that if funds were found to save Belarus, then they must also be found to save their own people from a pandemic - they have already passed 6000 cases! And if not, then what is the point of saving Belarus?

                So, an ash-tree stump, that you, dear, will pile up from the flock - the people are bent over, brother Mitka asks for fish soup ...
                We also had up to 10 thousand cases a day. Now you have to drop everything and sound the alarm?
                Quote: depressant
                He walks and pushes him under the arm to tap out angry comments towards colleagues.

                My colleagues are next to me, they earn money.
                And one of them, whose wife died suddenly, was punched for 4 days by a replacement in order to bring the replacement aboard, and return the widower home to have time to bury his wife ...
                PS
                In the process of processing the documents for repatriation, it turned out that a fine of 4000 (spelled four, Karl!) Euros was introduced in Estonia for not wearing a mask on his face in public places.
                Would you like to receive such a fine on the territory of the Russian Federation?
                So there would be funds for those who suffer free medicine ...
                1. depressant
                  depressant 19 September 2020 17: 17
                  +8
                  Colleague, your imagination can only be envied: you saw me no longer in hell, among devils, in clouds of sulfur, but in the herd they will be piled! Imagine a picture of how the unfortunates screech from me and scream: "Chur me! Chur!" I am not so cruel as to bring even such people with such convictions into a state of political stress that is dangerous for their mental health. Therefore, you will not see me among Navalny's supporters. But you really want to, don't you? You would very much like to send off everyone who demands from the authorities a policy adequate at least to the current political situation. Or, to press the label "Supporter of Navalny" to the forehead of such people and thus force the authorities, which saw this label, to consider those who object to you as such.
                  “Ah!” Exclaims Vlast, “so this harmful Depressant has the seal“ Supporter of Navalny ”on his forehead, which was printed on that forehead by a stalkerwalker. Well, if a stalkerwalker, then yes - a supporter!"
                  So we do it? And all because you do not believe in our power much more than I do. After all, not to me, but to you, it seems that say at least some critical word against the government, and it, the government, will immediately collapse, jerk its legs and arms in an epileptic manner, roll its eyes. Do not be afraid, our power is quite strong, therefore it is possible and necessary to beat it painfully. Otherwise, it will not reach her.
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 17: 32
                    -12 qualifying.
                    I have the opportunity to compare the standard of living of the Russian with the European. From here I dance.
                    As you have rested your horn - the power is bad, so you stand on it.
                    If our "bad government" applied the whole range of measures and "stimulations" that are carried out by the well-fed and civilized West in relation to its citizens dissatisfied with life, you would have quieted down like in 1962, when Nikitka introduced the death penalty after the events in Novocherkassk ...
                    But to you, lovers of defending the poor and the oppressed, historical examples are unnecessary. All of you - without exception - are smarter than Wikipedia, and holier than Ksenia Sobchak.
                    Then I take my leave.
                2. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 20 September 2020 10: 05
                  -4
                  You should fine everyone and everything
            2. Roman13579
              Roman13579 21 September 2020 10: 21
              0
              Yes. Sure. The Tsar-Father is to blame, because the boyars are bad ...

              The king is good .. he got the bad people ..))
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 12: 54
          10
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          The state asked, and persuaded, and tried to influence the dissidents, who fundamentally did not comply with the regime of self-isolation, but to the question "Why not?"

          Aha! "The mice cried, injected, but continued to eat the cactus" ... wassat
          Who are the covid dissidents? Who continued to visit foreign countries and carried from there a likely opportunity? Or those who took and did not close the borders, launching foreign (potential) carriers?
          You, too, tell then how you can catch a "love" disease without touching your partner.
          If there is a threat of a pandemic in the country, then the “guarantor” of its security does not appear in a public place without a mask, but rules that are binding on everyone are introduced ...
          There is no need to shift from a sore head to a healthy one ...
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 13: 28
            -7
            Quote: ROSS 42
            No need to shift from a sick head to a healthy one.

            In this case, those who spread this infection have a sore head. Conscious distributor if not following recommended preventive measures.
            Quote: ROSS 42
            The “guarantor” of her safety does not appear in a public place without a mask, but rules that are binding on everyone are introduced.

            Did the "guarantor" breathe in your face? And sneezed without turning away?
            Quote: ROSS 42
            You, then, tell us how you can catch a "love" disease without touching your partner

            You know better, since you put the question like that ...
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Who are the covid dissidents? Who continued to visit foreign countries and carried from there a likely opportunity? Or those who took and did not close the borders, launching foreign (potential) carriers

            These are those who have not deigned to wear masks or bother with the use of gloves during the last half-year. Both themselves and in relation to their relatives and friends. Especially children.
            For the orphan and the poor, I inform you that there are activities such as, for example, work outside the Russian Federation, when it is necessary to cross the border in both directions.
            But that's not your concern, is it? Is that so? The main thing is to stir up the swamp with merde, you see, it will douse someone ...
            Rospotrebnadzor is involved in limiting the spread of Covid-19 across the country. Have you tried asking them questions?
            1. depressant
              depressant 19 September 2020 14: 30
              +9
              stalkerwalker:
              "For the orphan and the poor, I inform you that there are activities such as, for example, work outside the Russian Federation, when it is necessary to cross the border in both directions."

              Here you are stubborn! )))
              And whose citizens, as recently as yesterday, were injured in an overturned sightseeing bus in Turkey? Affected and assigned to nearby hospitals? Maybe important people who, due to state necessity, had to cross the border in both directions? Not?
              No, dear colleague. Our ordinary citizens have suffered, who, perhaps, have been saving money for several years for the object of their dreams - a vacation trip to Turkey, in which a pandemic is raging right now with might and main.
              What should a wise state have done in such a situation? Close the border at least for the exit. Because - yes, we are like that, we have Russian maybe. However, for other peoples, perhaps - it too. But the state did not begin to do this according to the principle "They are not afraid, let them die!" Well, what can I tell you ... So reasoning is permissible only for an ordinary citizen. For the state - never!
              The state should be smarter than its citizens. For why is it necessary then - is it? Unless it is necessary, such, for tourist offices, which broke and develop new tourist routes within our vast country with its countless beauty and truly fabulous places, to build infrastructure there. No, these offices behave like strangers. And what conclusion can be drawn regarding the power that allows them to do this?
              And Rospotrebnadzor is one of the tentacles of our powerful Kraken, it is useless to ask the tentacles questions.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 16: 40
                -8
                Quote: depressant
                Rospotrebnadzor - he's one of the tentacles of our imperious Kraken, it is useless to ask the tentacles questions

                I am amazed at your sincere and childlike directly - everything that concerns the state - well, everything is bad. Already Rospotrebnazor, which you see is not the same.
                Quote: depressant
                Our ordinary citizens have suffered, who, perhaps, have been saving money for several years for the object of their dreams - a vacation trip to Turkey, in which a pandemic is raging right now with might and main.
                What should a wise state have done in such a situation? Close the border at least for the exit. Because - yes, we are like that, we have Russian maybe. However, for other peoples, perhaps - it too. But the state did not begin to do this according to the principle "They are not afraid, let them die!" Well, what can I tell you ... So it is permissible to talk

                Come on! These citizens wanted to sneeze at everything - both at us, and at the recommendations of Rospotrebnadzor, if they went through third countries to collect someone else's infection.
                By the way, how does this compare with those 20 million beggars who earn the least in the country, which chichi do they fly with in charters?
                Quote: depressant
                Because - yes, we are like that, we have Russian maybe.

                It’s not maybe - it’s shifting my problems to a healthy one: "I rested, sunbathed on the beaches of Turkey, and the state will treat me and those whom I have infected."
                Your position is typical for the majority, who blame the country's leadership for all their troubles, which they themselves create.
                Everyone has become so wiser that they completely forgot about their civic obligations, but they are perfectly oriented in their rights.
                PS
                I will ask again - should we follow the example of Estonia and introduce a fine for the absence of a mask in crowded places, in the amount of a multiple of 4000 euros?
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 19 September 2020 20: 04
                  -2
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  I am amazed at your sincere and childlike directly - everything that concerns the state - well, everything is bad. Already Rospotrebnazor, which you see is not the same.

                  Here's a plus, perhaps.
                2. Roman13579
                  Roman13579 21 September 2020 10: 28
                  -3
                  First, let salaries be raised to Estonian ..))
                  Well, the fines for the masks .. I didn’t sleep and I’m not going to .. And I don’t have to!
                  These freaks out there make money on these masks, and I also have to participate in their circus ..
                  1. QWERTY
                    QWERTY 22 September 2020 20: 42
                    +1
                    And what, in Estonia, everyone suddenly became millionaires? And how is it necessary to raise salaries?
            2. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 20 September 2020 10: 06
              -1
              Covid in the heads, hit the brains of many
              1. Roman13579
                Roman13579 21 September 2020 10: 29
                -1
                Oh, Nastya .. you just surprise me more and more often with sound thoughts ..))
        3. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 20 September 2020 10: 04
          -3
          We got them with their masks and quarantine and !!! Mortality is no more like flu and pneumonia every year
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 20 September 2020 10: 47
            -2
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            Covid in the heads, hit the brains of many

            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            We got them with their masks and quarantine and !!! Mortality is no more like flu and pneumonia every year

            Exactly.... laughing
            The classic definition from ladies of low social responsibility like #yamat ...
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 20 September 2020 18: 02
              -2
              They also got pannekers like you, put on more masks and sit at home and do not bother others to live without muzzles, believed in a stupid covid, it means there was no head to think that you were being washed
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 20 September 2020 19: 20
                -2
                Nastyukha ...
                Learn Russian language.
                laughing
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 21 September 2020 10: 29
                  -2
                  I'm writing from the phone
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 21 September 2020 12: 39
                    0
                    The devastation is not toilets or telephones, but in the heads ...
                    Almost according to Preobrazhensky ... laughing
      3. Sakmagon
        Sakmagon 19 September 2020 10: 12
        -4
        How not ashamed to use such unworthy, so low-grade and clearly fictional arguments in a dispute? You're an officer!
        But, apparently, you are the officer who, unlike many others, is treated kindly by the authorities and therefore with impunity defame a person who has a heart for the country.

        Here it and there is defamation
      4. Spartanec
        Spartanec 19 September 2020 11: 24
        +4
        it will be available free of charge by prescription. like so announced. because it is cheaper for the state to give 12 thousand before than to spend in the hospital from 70 to 250 thousand for one person to spend in the hospital. But the fact that free is not yet an accurate infa
      5. Tank hard
        Tank hard 19 September 2020 20: 02
        0
        Quote: depressant
        We live in humanity, it affects us.

        A masterpiece expression! Into granite! good
      6. blackice
        blackice 20 September 2020 03: 09
        0
        Lukashenka's mediocre policy in what?
        The fact that he did not destroy BelAZ, did he not destroy agriculture?
        The fact that the country without wells is still alive and independent?
        Does it bother you?
        Dibilization of the countries of the former USSR is reaching a new level.
        I suggest you repeat the feat of the Ukrainian activist and go out into the street with posters that you only need lace panties and no visas to the EU.
        Actually, the regularity has always been this, if the head does not work, then the genitals work.
  • snake
    snake 19 September 2020 12: 30
    +7
    Quote: certero
    I don’t know about you, I have no doubts about the results of voting on the constitution.


    The number of beggars on the streets has already noticeably increased, this is a direct indicator.

    Even RT (the propaganda mouthpiece does not hide this)
    The number of the poor in Russia in the II quarter increased by 1,3 million people.
    https://russian.rt.com/business/news/784777-bednye-rossiya-kvartal?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 19 September 2020 23: 23
    0
    Don't be so upset! And he won't give it up! And Belarus won't give it up, either.
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    1. depressant
      depressant 19 September 2020 11: 26
      +6
      Because they were not given the opportunity to be responsible for their country! Moreover, they have been brought up in the new concepts of capitalist ideology, when personal success is highlighted, and not the good of everyone. The common good now has only the meaning of an election promise, which does not have to be kept. And therefore, it becomes natural for many to use the social elevators erected on this occasion by the West and helpfully, with a grin, substituted them. The smart ones, with the principles of serving their fatherland, will prefer not to sit in them. Sly, vile, or naive will sit in them.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 19 September 2020 19: 22
        +2
        Quote: depressant
        Because they were not given the opportunity to be responsible for their country! Moreover, they were brought up in new concepts of capitalist ideology,

        I would put it this way: they have no immunity to the diseases that accompany political change. They did not have a production collapse and did not have a White House. For the formation of immunity, time is needed, ideologically verified information as an immunizing material, professionally presented, as an Idea - the advantages of Socialism and path options Something like this IMHO
    2. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 19 September 2020 12: 00
      +3
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Yes, the opinion of 30 or less people must be taken into account, and they are entirely adherents of our opposition and democratic values, so sooner or later they will sell the country.


      It's about thinking, for example, people 30 and younger, need a high standard of living, they look at the countries of the West or Asia and see the growth of the economies of those countries where salaries are not like ours, where the level of medicine / education is high, etc. and when they see stagnation / stagnation in the economy at home, they ask themselves why everything is so bad here? They don't need conquests, a new Soviet Union, etc. they just want to live well in their country.

      And there is another category of older people who have stability in the first place, they saw the collapse of the Soviet Union and do not want a repetition of that past, let us not live very well, but stable. They still dream of the restoration of the USSR in a new format and hope that their country will be great again. With free education, medicine and all sorts of benefits ..

      As a result, different generations, values ​​and a different view of the world.
      1. depressant
        depressant 19 September 2020 13: 03
        +6
        Colleague, in many ways you are right. But there are points of convergence for generations belonging to different segments of our history. One of them is an assessment of the adequacy of political and economic authorities in a rapidly changing world. The assessment is generally negative. Adequate responses to the new realities on the part of our authorities are observed, which is what keeps the country from exploding. But there are so few of them, adequate answers, and all of them are according to the principle "Wow! The roasted rooster has pecked! We must do something about it!" explosive braking moments. This is a technological backwardness, a constant violation of the deadlines for fulfilling the countless promises of the authorities to achieve this and that, an unrestrained feast of luxury in which the powerful people who have put their activities at the service of a handful of moneybags, an absurd gap in the incomes of 10% of the population and other citizens, inability, rather, unwillingness to stop the massive outflow of currency abroad, ruined demographics, the highest percentage of suicides among men, and the like.
        The authorities' attempts to solve these problems are not just sluggish, but declarative in nature, which indicates the weakness of our leadership, if not more sharply. This is where the opinions of all generations of our citizens converge. They cannot but agree.
      2. blackice
        blackice 20 September 2020 03: 25
        -1
        It's about thinking, for example, people 30 and younger, need a high standard of living, they look at the countries of the West or Asia and see the growth of the economies of those countries where salaries are not like ours, where the level of medicine / education is high, etc. and when they see stagnation / stagnation in the economy at home, they ask themselves why everything is so bad here? They don't need conquests, a new Soviet Union, etc. they just want to live well in their country.

        Then the question of such a plan, do you really think that by accepting Belarus in its arms the EU will keep those production facilities that still exist?
        Do the EU and the US need the people of Belarus? With what fright? Ukraine is a good example, where "democracy" is already in full control. Moreover, the more the nationalist sense of the "democrat" is, the more he is financed by the West. All curtsies in the direction of Russia are punished harshly and with consequences.
        Politics has long turned into the dirtiest and most corrupt prospect .... ku and all these "cookies from zero" are cheese in a mousetrap, where the winner is the one who sets the mousetrap.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 20 September 2020 06: 38
          0
          Quote: blackice
          Then the question of such a plan, do you really think that by accepting Belarus in its arms the EU will keep those production facilities that still exist?

          I wanted to ask you a counter question: - If Russia embraces the Republic of Belarus, what measures will it take in order to preserve the production that is ????? After all, what is the title of the article? What is the plus of the socialist system? in planning! In supermarkets, when you go to places of sellers more than buyers, according to the plan, when planning, there is no need for very costly competition - there is no need to build 5 shoe stores where one can handle it, without stress! And resources can be directed to the development of science and technology, for example. Pay attention where technology is developed there and the economy is ahead. For me, Belarus is the last bastion of socialism losing the idea. Without an idea, the Way is lost, and if you don't know where to go, you will find yourself somewhere not there. Unfortunately, we have nothing to offer the Belarusians, we have become like America. Only our currency is not a standard.
          1. blackice
            blackice 21 September 2020 04: 29
            0
            I wanted to ask you a counter question: - If Russia embraces the Republic of Belarus, what measures will it take in order to preserve the production that is ?????

            Where at least in one of my comments is there a reference to the absorption of Belarus by Russia?
            Is it not clear from my comments that I am generally for the fact that Belarus was an independent country? To blame Lukashenka for trying to save the country, while Europs with mattress mats and sun-faced people are trying to get their hands on it is simply incredibly stupid.
            And the "progressive population", which took to the streets as a result of the fact that they were not given a chance to repeat the mistakes of Russia, Ukraine and others, only plays into the hands of both the Solzelik and his opponents.
            But this is so hard to understand! After all, it's easier to scream that Lucas was rushing about, falling into a trap, now he is definitely the end!
            Downs, this is your end! Lucas will be replaced by all sorts of there .... bergs, which Belarus has not rested on at all.
            They say they learn from mistakes. But only fools learn from their mistakes, smart ones draw conclusions from the example of others. So if Western or Russian democracy triumphs in Belarus, I will not feel sorry for these demonstrators. They themselves wanted to.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 21 September 2020 04: 55
              0
              Quote: blackice
              Where at least in one of my comments is there a reference to the absorption of Belarus by Russia?

              you read the title of the article. For me personally, RB is also Russia. My mom and dad are from there, from Minsk. By the will of fate, they broke away from the ship which was called the USSR and set off on a free voyage. Lukashenko, while retaining the structure of the Soviet method of economic management, is practically socialism, just like the Soviet party elite is not a communist at heart. And the socialist idea for him is just a way of power. Lacking an Idea that unites and guides, Belarusians, like a swan, cancer and pike, will rock their boat by themselves, especially since there is interference from outside. Independence for a small country is a fiction. Imagine what will happen if they start to privatize enterprises ?! Where will unity go?
  • GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 19 September 2020 05: 39
    +3
    My great-grandfather is a Pole, exiled to Siberia by the Russian tsars ..... Grandmother is Ukrainian .......... Mom is a Belarusian, who was born and lived in Poland until 1939 ..... And since I am RUSSIAN and know how to handle weapons, I must and must love Ukraine and Belarus, Poland ..... Voluntarily and forcibly offer (albeit to impose) a socialist model of the world .... You can forget about socialism, but Poland, Ukraine and Belarus are in my blood .. ..in genes .....
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 19 September 2020 06: 45
      23
      Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
      And since I am RUSSIAN and who knows how to handle weapons, I must and must love Ukraine and Belarus, Poland ...

      I have Russian, Belarusian, Tatar and Bashkir genes, and I, like you, are Russian, but I do not think that I should and must love the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Volga Bulgaria and the Golden Horde, I live in modern Russia and this is my land, my Motherland , here are the graves of my ancestors, my home, my grandchildren are running. I don’t want to impose or coerce any of the neighbors, but we are not allowed to fool and brainwash our neighbors, we lose in Ukraine, we have no right in Belarus.
    2. Arnaut
      Arnaut 19 September 2020 07: 09
      -1
      What would your great-grandfather tell you?
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 33
      +2
      Oh, of course. Forget about socialism for the sake of those who robbed the people in the 90s and continue to rob them now?
    4. Vasya rock
      Vasya rock 21 September 2020 09: 11
      0
      My grandparents were born in Poland before the age of 39. I live in Minsk. I am Belarusian but Russian. The Chechen is also Russian. Let's take off the mustache and live in a union state.
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 19 September 2020 05: 42
    12
    In Tomsk, United Russia lost its majority in the City Duma, with a turnout of 19%. Is this stuffing too? Maybe all the same, it is sometimes worth raising your bottom line and going to the polls, and not sitting at home and crying that everything is bought and rigged.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 19 September 2020 06: 25
      17
      That's right, you have to walk. And then in the Kuban more percent of votes voted for Kondratyev than for Kim Jong-un in Pyongyang .... Although everyone around him swears and spits at him. Here is the result.
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 19 September 2020 08: 21
        +6
        In the Rostov region, too, all of Golubev are scolding for nothing. However, the result is predictable, with a turnout of 43%, Golubev scored .......... 70% (those notorious ones), and Pyatibratov scored 7%, although I know for sure that at least in one of the districts of the region (specifically in Belokalitvinsky, where by the way both are from) Pyatibratov walked head to head with Golubev, and sometimes overtook him. So much for "fair" elections. So the people do not go to the polls not because they do not want to, but because they absolutely do not believe in this whole circus with "elections" without the right to CHOICE!
        The same protege of Golubev, the head of the same Belokalitvinsky district, was arrested at least twice for exceeding and wasting budgetary funds, and WHAT ?! And both times they let her go and she sits in her place and vodka thumps at work shamelessly, and she doesn't care about the problems of the area and everything else, and she doesn't just care about people, but coughs from a high bell tower. And again, no one gives a shit ... don't care that no one voted for her, she won the "election" ...
        So no one in our country has long believed, either in "elections" or in prospects. Something like that!
        1. Finches
          Finches 19 September 2020 08: 55
          -17 qualifying.
          No prospects ... We will all die! laughing
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 19 September 2020 09: 12
            +5
            Zyablitsev (Eugene)
            No prospects ... We will all die!
            Zhen, my compliments! hi We are actually with you from the same trench, but in this particular case, banter is not entirely appropriate. Because they got the bastards ... !!!
            1. Finches
              Finches 19 September 2020 09: 16
              -2
              hi I'm sorry! But I’m not out of spite and don’t even joke, the mood in the morning is good! Treat everything philosophically - it’s the reality that people with an extremely negative set of moral and business qualities go to officials, a normal person will not go to officials even among those who have seized power 2 % think about business and people, 70% do not think at all, and the remaining 18% are opportunists, money-grubbers, balabols, populists and grabbers! These 2% are dragging the cart!
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 12: 57
                +8
                Quote: Finches
                and among those who have seized power, 2% think about business and the people, 70% do not think at all, and the remaining 18% are opportunists, money-gamblers, balabols, populists and grabbers! These 2% are dragging the cart!

                And the remaining 10% live abroad and receive dividends? Or is it again the intrigues of Pamfilova and "the peculiarities of the Russian calculation of interest"?
                laughing
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 19 September 2020 09: 24
            +4
            Necessarily! Life is generally a harmful thing.
          3. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 36
            +5
            Well, then your category of patriots on the salary is ineradicable.
  • apro
    apro 19 September 2020 05: 47
    +5
    Belarus Russia Ukraine is one people, one state.
    Having created new living conditions ... all for the loot. Some questions have been simplified to a disgrace. There is money Ivan Petrovich ... there is no money ... bastard bastard ... and you can also order music for the loot ... and girls. And the same attitude is formed in all spheres. including between one narodom. consumer attitude can destroy both the family .. and the state. and unions and associations.
    It is clear that Belarus is financially poorer. Not having much of what Russia has. But trumping natural resources in an industrial society is not right. God gave it .. and that with your hands and brains you will do it for sure.
    Here, many are outraged by the fact that Belarus was given something ... as if it was pulled out of their pocket. But in a capitalistic society, the owners of money manage the money. And this is not the people. And they just don’t do anything. And the conditions are also not divine. the exhaust was on your pocket.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 06: 01
    +8
    Novel! Is it worth casting beads? Question:
    Why should I love Belarusians?

    out of place today.
    HUMAN LOVE is a distinctive feature that separates people from animals. (Although many videos show that sometimes animals treat each other with more attention and participation than people of different denominations).
    Someone will argue that even among people of a related nationality there are inveterate villains: murderers, sadists, molesters, robbers and just cynical scoundrels who do not even know either compassion or affection. And therefore, any person should treat with respect and respect to another inhabitant of planet Earth of any nationality and any skin color stop stop stop
    if he did not do evil, did not betray meanly, out of self-interest, did not push into the abyss, but, on the contrary, stretched out his hand in trouble, did not take the side of “howling hyenas and jackals”.
    You cannot love parasites, you cannot show favor to arrogant cynics, you need to drive liars away from yourself, you need to show the lackeys and sycophants their place.
    Any positive human qualities should be welcomed. Negativity and blackness must be burned out like black mold with a hot iron.
    hi
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 19 September 2020 07: 05
      +7
      the author is absolutely right that these 1,5 lard will not reach the people of Belarus ...
      everything will be torn apart by the Luka family with his "secret police" ...
      and there will never be a return ... however, as well as sense from them ...
      enrages that the Kremlin wastes money "left and right", and purposefully and harshly presses its bonds with exorbitant prices, humiliating salaries and pensions, loans, mortgages and the lawlessness of housing and communal services ...
      and yet these 1,5 lard was wasted in vain ...
      it is not necessary to move the beds, but to change the staff ...
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      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 39
        +2
        Come on. Why do you feel sorry for money? How many patriots were rushing at me when I said that the modernization of the BMP 2 for a country like ours is a shame. So your opinion is the opinion of a freak and a marginal. laughing
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 19 September 2020 08: 18
      -8
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Novel. Is it worth casting beads?

      Do not you think that you are now half of the members of the forum (in front of whom Roman "mosque beads") insulted?

      Quote: ROSS 42
      Any positive human qualities should be welcomed. Negativity and blackness must be burned out like black mold with a hot iron.

      Are you for all good and against all bad? So do I. The only difference is in our concepts of the very same: "What is good and what is bad."

      ps
      An interesting phenomenon with our liberals on the site. Yesterday I was disrespectful to Medvedev's activities and what started here ... And at the same time, they are no less disrespectful of United Russia ... Gentlemen, not good, explain to me how you can love the chairman of a party whose party you hate?
  • mark1
    mark1 19 September 2020 06: 09
    -13 qualifying.
    Eh, Roma, Roma ... - Writer ...
    - we rode on the lake, I rocked the launch ... which is more important, a word or a father - a dilemma ...
    1. mark1
      mark1 19 September 2020 12: 14
      -1
      Minions, minions ... I thought you were cartoons ...
  • 210ox
    210ox 19 September 2020 06: 21
    +9
    And let's count how many tanks and aircraft we have not built because of theft, corruption, not skill and slovenliness? Can we start dancing from the stove?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 19 September 2020 07: 53
      10
      Quote: 210ox
      And let's count how many tanks and aircraft we have not built because of theft, corruption, not skill and slovenliness? Can we start dancing from the stove?

      In the internet I saw a count, where the cost of the yachts of our oligarchs and the cost of the navy, ships were counted .. So the yachts turned out to be more expensive than the entire surface fleet of Russia ..
      1. ZAV69
        ZAV69 19 September 2020 10: 09
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: Svarog
        In the internet I saw a count, where the cost of the yachts of our oligarchs and the cost of the navy, ships were counted .. So the yachts turned out to be more expensive than the entire surface fleet of Russia ..

        What is the point of making such a comparison? The yachts were built at foreign shipyards and at the expense of these same oligarchs and have nothing to do with Russia.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 19 September 2020 11: 04
          +8
          Quote: ZAV69
          The yachts were built at foreign shipyards and at the expense of these same oligarchs and have nothing to do with Russia.

          Where did the oligarchs get this money from? Is it not by chance from the Russian economy, where in the normal case they should have stayed? And the fact that oligarchs are parasites on the body of Russia, robbing the people, taking for themselves most of the final product of labor produced by the people, you probably cannot imagine this for yourself?
          1. ZAV69
            ZAV69 20 September 2020 10: 11
            -2
            Quote: Stas157
            Where did the oligarchs get this money from? Is it not by chance from the Russian economy, where in the normal case they should have stayed? And the fact that oligarchs are parasites on the body of Russia, robbing the people, taking for themselves most of the final product of labor produced by the people, you probably cannot imagine this for yourself?

            Have you forgotten capitalism here? The oligarchs earned money and paid taxes, and what remains can be spent as they want. How honestly they paid taxes is another matter, this should be dealt with by the relevant authorities.
            You now enjoy using the fruits of the capitalist economy and measure the oligarchs according to the communist line. So you either here or there, or forward to the victory of communism, or under the iron heel of capitalism.
            For some reason, the fleet of yachts and business jets of foreign business sharks does not cause you any emotions, but our oligarchs .... any waste of them is just like a sickle in the balls.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 20 September 2020 10: 35
              -3
              Quote: ZAV69
              Have you forgotten capitalism here?

              It seems that these lovers of "leveling" from there, from the distant Soviet past, live with the slogan "To each according to his needs, from each according to his ability."
              Only those officials whom they so hayat think the same way when they come to the office, and, having thrown their tansy coat on the hanger, sincerely believe that they have already worked their salary by coming to the workplace.
              It is the "salary", not the salary, since the latter still needs to be earned. But at this stage, the division into "patriots" who whine about poverty, and "traitors to the Motherland", who work out this salary, and then, and other social inconveniences, to which these Internet patriots are not ready to go, begins.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 September 2020 06: 26
    -4
    As a photo for the article, the author picked up - "feast for the eyes". Why didn't I insert a photo of lawlessness from the side of the so-called? "peacefully protesters", crippled security officials? Do they not fit into the general line of personal hostility?
    Lukashenka, of course, is still that fruit and no one argues with that, but today Belarus needs to be helped, regardless of whether the author loves the Belarusians or not and how many tanks it will cost. And why did he transfer to tanks, and not to buckwheat, potatoes, bread?
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 19 September 2020 06: 45
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And why did he transfer to tanks, and not to buckwheat, potatoes, bread?

      Well, the site is on a military topic, the author of this shitty servant cannot be politicized to the end and completely, otherwise, you see, the administration of the site will be led under the article.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 19 September 2020 06: 47
        -11 qualifying.
        So in cereals and bread, the numbers would look more weighty. The author did not take into account.
      2. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ 19 September 2020 07: 14
        -6
        The author himself is the moderator of this anti-Russian site. And he can even delete all comments under his articles, leaving only the article of his beloved.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 19 September 2020 08: 25
          -3
          Quote: _Sergey_
          The author himself is the moderator of this anti-Russian site. And he can even delete all comments under his articles, leaving only the article of his beloved.

          It is what it is. The author is apparently a supporter of the fact that in Belarus it would be exactly the same as in Ukraine. What did the Ukrainian people get after the ouster of the "dictator" Yanukovych - Mir? Freedom? Justice? Prosperity? No! The right to travel to Polish and Lithuanian strawberry plantations? Yes! Well, for this, of course, it was worthwhile to smoke the country and arrange a forceful seizure of power! Has it become easier for Russia because the Maydauns won in Ukraine? No. Now NATO is almost officially at our side. The novel apparently stands up for the fact that NATO would entrench itself near our borders, but from the side of Belarus. It seems that Khodorkovsky is paying extra for the appearance of such articles.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 53
            +3
            And, that is, it is Roman to blame for what is happening in Belarus? Clearly understood. And I thought that this was all the result of the lawlessness that is happening in our post-Soviet economy. And that those same people with good faces are involved in this, chopping loot on people's labor in the post-Soviet republics without any conscience or looking back at the people.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 19 September 2020 17: 40
              -3
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And, that is, it is Roman to blame for what is happening in Belarus? Clearly understood.
              You can take comfort in the fact that Roman is not to blame for what is happening in Belarus. It's just that Roman is wrong and one-sidedly interprets the events taking place in Belarus, evaluating them exclusively in the amount of 1,5 billion eternally green notes, while losing sight of the fact that the lack of this support in the future may hiccup to us, but with much larger losses, significantly exceeding 1.5 billion, including military-political, geo-political, economic and image. Ukraine has already been successfully missed, for the reason that they thought to "buy off" the amount of 15 billion dollars without using the power component. In Belarus, the boil on the part of the Polish-Lithuanian fosterlings began to decline precisely after the prospect of the introduction of security forces from Russia was highlighted. The topic with 1,5 billion came up later.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And I thought that this was all the result of the lawlessness that is happening in our post-Soviet economy.
              And what's going on? A martyrdom of capitalism is taking place, which has a very ugly, mutated form, which is not surprising when you consider that somewhere capitalism has been developing for centuries, and half-worn non-economic strategists have been tormented for only 28 years, giving rise to corporate-oligarchic capitalism (and that parody), since capitalism the classic has long since died. There is no other for you. As a matter of fact, the socialist model of the economy did not suit you either.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And that those same people with good faces are involved in this, chopping loot on people's labor in the post-Soviet republics without any conscience or looking back at the people.
              You do not take the topic to the people. How many mattresses and euro guarantees with "bright faces" were brought to Ukraine of machines and technologies after the Maydauns were removed from power?those very people with good faces chopping loot on people's labor in the post-Soviet republics without any conscience and looking back at the people"??? Zero point, zero tenths !!! But for the sixth year the plundering of the national property has been going on at an inconceivable scale and pace, but already by new people with alcoholic clown faces, who are also not burdened with conscience and morality, ready to sell the land. than?
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 18: 38
                +1
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                There is no other for you.

                For you, definitely not. For me there is.
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                As a matter of fact, the socialist model of the economy did not suit you either.

                What the hell? I am quite satisfied with the socialist model of the economy at this stage. Just don't refer to the USSR, there was no socialism, by and large. The transition to socialism failed for quite objective reasons.
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                You do not take the topic to the people.

                Are you chattering the topic, but am I taking it away? Very interesting. I actually pointed out to you the main reason for what is happening now in Belarus, and not only in it.
        2. Mihail80
          Mihail80 19 September 2020 13: 39
          +2
          Sergey, my comment has already been deleted
          1. _Sergei_
            _Sergei_ 19 September 2020 13: 53
            +2
            My eighth warning.
            1. Mihail80
              Mihail80 19 September 2020 14: 08
              +2
              So for truth and honor, even to take off your head.
              Many are clamped here, do not give the floor to say, write out a warning and delete comments for a critical look at the article and its author.
              But we are drowning and not for Putin, not for the oligarchs and officials.
              It is important for us that such articles do not incite hatred and discord in my beloved country, do not work for "Western democratic friends", do not feed the inner fifth column.
              Not sure if my comment will hang for a long time ...
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 19 September 2020 09: 08
      +5
      Well, there were no beaten silaviks, no-it-lo !!!
    3. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 19 September 2020 09: 14
      +6
      Well, you will post photos of burned-out cars, smashed shop windows and other ugliness that the opposition has done.
      1. Terrible GMO
        Terrible GMO 19 September 2020 14: 58
        +1
        What prevents?

        The lack of it all laughing
        However, they can do it like BT (Belarusian television, state-owned). They took photos and videos of the protests in Spain.
  • Avior
    Avior 19 September 2020 06: 44
    10
    1,5 billion was given not to Belarusians, but to Lukashenka.
    Someone believes that he will give them away?
    And if the Belarusians refuse to give it back, don't go to the grandmother.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 September 2020 06: 45
    -21 qualifying.
    Even without reading the article, you can determine the style of Roman, Roma by one heading, it's time to blame the Banderlog brothers and you will play the pipe with Kovtun, well, grab some Pole with a Labus in a lump.
    1. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 19 September 2020 07: 16
      -12 qualifying.
      The site has become openly Bandera.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 19 September 2020 07: 43
        -8
        There is such a thing, and surprisingly, even sometimes there is a hissing snake on an absolutely neutral comment, which will quietly put a minus and not gug-gu, why, for what, with what does not agree. In short, all the habits of the liberals.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 19 September 2020 13: 22
          +5
          Seryozha and Yura, I advise you to register on the Politicus website, you will like it there very much, I guarantee.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 19 September 2020 15: 42
            -4
            Somehow, without snotty, we'll figure out where to register. I also found an advisor, teach your wife to cook cabbage soup. fool
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 14: 55
        +3
        Oga, all around Bandera and Anglo-Saxons. When Kiselev speaks about the monuments to Krasnov from the screen of the first channel and hang up signs to the Mannerheims, "this is different."
  • guerrilla
    guerrilla 19 September 2020 06: 49
    +8
    Surprisingly, the Belarusians are also unhappy that Putin gives a loan.
    A striking example of a nuclear power plant - with the commissioning in Zhyzhki, tariffs ... no, do not decrease - they will increase. Because loans must be given. 10 years to give. And this, the people's daddy, with a blue eye, declared that the platform for mining bitcoins would be next to the nuclear power plant ...
    Does anyone else believe in 80%?
    By the way, I have the opportunity, without getting involved in the discussion, to monitor two independent working collectives, simple, not politicized. I can see a pronounced increase in dissatisfaction with the actions of the Russian authorities.
    Soon they will begin to ride - the discontent of the people was "saddled" by the Poles, and it was necessary to beat the puppeteers with their own weapons, ie. and remove the father who has lost the coast, and, thus, take away their weapons from the Westerners ...
    Personally, I think this is a key mistake, support for the insane, sorry, irremovable ...
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 19 September 2020 11: 26
      +5
      you are right ... in principle, similar to the situation with Ukraine ... for 25 years, they screwed up everything and everyone ... at a critical moment they made a bet on a thief, presented them with 3 lards of the "dead man" ... got Bandera's Maidan ... lost not the worst neighbor for many years ...
      apparently, the Kremlin's rake is the favorite pastime ...
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 19 September 2020 13: 25
        +9
        The authorities are trying to hide the mediocre policy of the Kremlin in any way, but more and more of our people are beginning to see their light and this pleases.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 19 September 2020 07: 04
    -1
    The novel may not be signed. Everywhere Belarus is compared to Ukraine. In Kiev, the American embassy played the biggest role. Its demands were sometimes fulfilled. As soon as Yanukovych refused to remove the police from the streets of the city, and the booze began. State enterprises began to attract attention as in the West. , and in Vostok. Yes, and in Belarus itself, too, drool over the state. property. You can scold the authorities and the demonstrators, but this will all settle down, and the parties will reconcile.
  • strannik1985
    strannik1985 19 September 2020 07: 06
    -7
    Lukashenka's and Putin's electoral victories are presented as the result of rigging without any attempt to present any evidence.
    1. Asad
      Asad 19 September 2020 07: 32
      11
      Probably if the observers were not kicked out, the opposition was admitted to the counting commission, the exit polls were not banned, the competitors' certificates were not transplanted, the people would have believed ,, 80 ,,%
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 19 September 2020 09: 12
        +3
        Quote: ASAD
        Probably if the observers were not kicked out, the opposition was admitted to the counting commission, the exit polls were not banned, the competitors' certificates were not transplanted, the people would have believed ,, 80 ,,%

        And the next day, burning all the ballots is still a classic ...
  • igorra
    igorra 19 September 2020 07: 16
    -5
    How did I get this Roman with his screams about everything disappeared from his six. It seems like an adult uncle should understand that the state and ordinary people are opposite concepts and their measures are different. We have here and now. The course and area of ​​action are children - grandchildren, friends - neighbors, an apartment - a summer residence, the state has peoples and regions and not only its own. And the state sends its soldiers to death for goals we do not understand. Incomprehensible here and now. That is far to go, the truth and the concept of Stalin is only now emerging. Dear Roman, go to power, try what it is, to lead not people, but a village, a city, when you yourself have to look for money to plug holes, I'm not talking about development. The army, at its lowest level, when money is taken from the nightstand, is not at all the same. Exaggerated, of course, but true. With all due respect, Igor.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 15: 34
      +4
      Some kind of wild vinaigrette of naive philistine thoughts.
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 19 September 2020 07: 19
    +3
    And if translated into simpler, but no less significant projects, such as playgrounds, roads, gasified villages and other pleasures, then even more.
    Debts of Belarus under state loans that were provided to the republic by the Russian Federation, at the beginning of October 2019 amounted to 6,5 billion
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 19 September 2020 07: 21
    +6
    I still don’t like to discuss texts on emotions, because it’s useless, I have some emotions, the author has others. We have freedom of expression, well, the author doesn’t want to love Belarusians, so he cannot even eat, he has the right, but I ask you not to cry. And then reading is disgusting, to the end, but with difficulty. But to be honest. Firstly, $ 1 billion from the loan will not leave the territory of the Russian Federation, since $ 1 billion was given to the Republic of Belarus (and not to Lukashenko, as the author and Western propagandists and our klikushi think) to repay the debt to the Russian Federation for previously issued loans, $ 300 million In repayment of the debt to Gazprom, that is, the Republic of Belarus has 200 million left at its disposal. understanding his freaks. But for every cunning ... there is a Putin who understands such matters. But his behavior now commands my respect. We would be so. Here are speeches, supposedly people in Belarus do not cause sympathy for me. From above, they are initiated by the paid ones, and they do not hesitate to ask for more, and they are given. Below are the usual intellectual student quirks, they want some movement - they stayed too long in quarantine. The workers, who were knocked out on strikes, figured out that it is unreasonable to lose wages for the sake of the accession of Mrs. Tikhanovskaya. And for some reason I don’t want to remember about 150 riot policemen with broken skulls. These people remained true to the oath
    1. Avior
      Avior 19 September 2020 07: 40
      +5
      You look at the world romantically.
      Hundreds of statements - torture, beatings, broken cars for no reason, even killed, a huge amount of video evidence of this - obviously the riot police did not give the oath to commit crimes.
      And not a single criminal case, although there should be three for each.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 19 September 2020 07: 48
        +3
        Sergei! How about the riot police with their skulls broken? The confirmation video must be filtered. I personally caught one of the accusers on the fact that for confirmation of the atrocities of the riot police, they issued a crackdown on a demonstration on Sevastopol Boulevard in Paris. I just lived there in a hotel and I know the area
        1. Avior
          Avior 19 September 2020 08: 52
          +9
          We need criminal cases in all cases.
          For injured employees, they are, for injured employees, they are not.
          There is plenty of evidence of crimes from employees. Affairs - no.
          And there should be.
          1. AML
            AML 19 September 2020 09: 26
            -4
            As part of the task, the OMON is not subject to jurisdiction. If you want to sue, sue the management. Look, they started to breed demagoguery. Trust in democracy, well, I would like to see how you will quarrel with the police in Europe and America. Would have gotten a truncheon on my backpack for hello
            1. Avior
              Avior 19 September 2020 12: 16
              +4
              The OMON is not under the jurisdiction of Lukashenka, because the law did not spend the night there.
              There are plenty of cases when suing the police. Another thing is that the police know that this is real, so they are wary of being substituted.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 20 September 2020 11: 30
              +2
              Quote: AML
              As part of the task, the OMON is not subject to jurisdiction.

              so the Gestapo was not subject to jurisdiction ... for a while
              1. AML
                AML 20 September 2020 11: 35
                -3
                Quote: Silvestr
                so the Gestapo was not subject to jurisdiction ... for a while


                So you are not in the felling.
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 20 September 2020 15: 13
                  0
                  Quote: AML
                  So you are not in the felling.

                  So you are not in jail ...
                  In fact, there is something to object?
                  Kneeling Ukrainian. Riot police have already seen, soon we will see Belarusian
                  1. AML
                    AML 20 September 2020 15: 37
                    -1
                    Well, if my opinion is so important to you, then rather you (by you, I mean not specifically you, but all those who think like you) will be squatting on the passes, than see the kneeling riot police. This will not happen.

                    If anything, then Lukashenko does not matter to me. He was obviously too late. But you won't get what you want. The time has gone.
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 19 September 2020 10: 31
          +4
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          issued a crackdown on a demonstration on Sevastopol Boulevard in Paris.

          Of course you did.



          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          I just lived there in a hotel and I know the area

          Maybe you are familiar with this area?
          And what did you decide to compare?
          What do people compare?
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 19 September 2020 09: 33
      +3
      stayed in quarantine.
      There was no quarantine in Belarus.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 September 2020 11: 22
      0
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      And about 150 riot policemen with broken skulls

      it speaks either about the serious intentions of the protesters, or about a serious surcharge for noses and skulls. The trouble is that none of the Belarusians can formulate a claim. Everyone is unhappy, but what is not clear to change, just the president ?? There is an industry in Belarus, but for some reason there is not enough development, this is the problem ... IMHO
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 13: 03
        +6
        Quote: aybolyt678
        There is an industry in Belarus, but for some reason there is not enough development, this is the problem ... IMHO

        Industry cannot develop at high prices for energy resources either in Belarus or in Russia. Where did these prices come from and why are they so high?
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 19 September 2020 15: 56
          +1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Industry cannot develop at high energy prices

          in Europe, energy is more expensive, we have a lot of hidden tax in the product, but in Belarus?
      2. Terrible GMO
        Terrible GMO 19 September 2020 15: 07
        +3
        Everyone is unhappy, but what is not clear to change, just the president ??

        Yes.

        [quote .. There is an industry in Belarus, but for some reason there is not sufficient development, this is the problem ... IMHO [/ quote]
        Why? Because Lukashenka doesn't need it. Will give unnecessary risks and uncontrolled people. From the same successful private traders, he just splashes rage.

        ] this indicates either the serious intentions of the protesters, or a serious surcharge for noses and skulls

        Only do you know what is the matter with the question of the 150 pierced turtles? They are not there, but the authorities wanted so much.
        They were so bad with the injured "security officials" that the BT had to show "terrible" injuries - these are single bruises, twisted ankle, muscle sprains.

        The trouble is that none of the Belarusians can formulate a claim

        Formulated long ago. Lukashenka's resignation and new elections. Fair elections.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 19 September 2020 15: 30
          +1
          Quote: TerribleGMO
          Formulated long ago. Lukashenka's resignation and new elections. Fair elections.

          Are there many honest candidates in Russia? In my opinion, there will be an "honest" protege of the most democratic country in the world for which 5 billion greens for the development of democracies is included in the budget.
          The main question is how to prevent the development of the scenario of Ukraine or Russia in the 90s? an additional question how to ensure the pace of development comparable to that of China in the 2000s? Is this possible with the elements of socialism in Belarus? that there is a bad leadership style or political system? I will be grateful hi
          1. Terrible GMO
            Terrible GMO 21 September 2020 03: 05
            +1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            The main question is how to prevent the development of the scenario of Ukraine or Russia in the 90s?

            The scenario of Ukraine is not possible due to the fact that the population, as a whole, is rather monolithic and split into warring blocks (as was the case with the western and eastern parts of Ukraine), and neighboring states will not climb up to us in order to bite off a piece (no matter how propagandists shout about the threat of Lithuania and Poland).

            The authorities tried to drive a wedge on religious grounds, but their actions only strengthened the unity among ordinary Belarusians ¯ \ _ (ツ) _ / ¯ They do not have support for Catholics, and measures against the latter only contributed to the fact that Orthodox believers and ordinary priests massively support them. However, the higher ranks continue to claim that they are out of politics (and then send their people to the pro-government forums, yeah).

            The scenario of Russia will be one way or another in one form or another, simply due to the fact that the economy is turning into dust before our eyes and the last reserves are being burned for show.
            The whole question is how hard it will hit everyone and when the mitigation measures will start.

            Quote: aybolyt678
            an additional question how to ensure the pace of development comparable to China in the 2000s

            Move to the past, but unfortunately this option is not available. What could or could have been done now? Like in China, it is to stop massively strangling private traders, and under the state. control to leave strategically important industries. You don't need to choke, for starters, at least medium and small businesses.
            Russians with experience of doing business in Belarus will not let you lie - this is hell and Israel. Hell in terms of eternal checks in order to shake the money out of you, and Israel - in the amount shaken out.
            The last five-year plan was held under the mighty slogan - strangle the PI and shake hands with the last of them.
            And these are the words "beacon" of the constitution ...

            Quote: aybolyt678
            Is this possible with the elements of socialism in Belarus?

            Socialism in Belarus is one big fiction. It is beautiful from the outside, but when you plunge into it with your head ... Here, as in Russia, the situation. The state is much more than shouting about the welfare state, and when it comes down to business, they are not in business and citizens have to decide everything.

            Is it possible in theory? Of course, such elements are successfully used in many places. But the current political leadership has no desire to apply them.

            Quote: aybolyt678
            that there is a bad leadership style or political system?

            The political system is built in such a way that the initiative is completely punishable and virtually destroyed from the entire bureaucratic and administrative apparatus. And this leads to the complete collapse of everything. Only loyalty is important, and skills and experience are unnecessary.
            What this leads to is quite obvious. And this is not even about the economy and industry issues.
            When in Minsk a poisonous, stinking liquid instead of water was going through the pipes, no one dared to declare that something was wrong all the first day, complete denial. On the second recommendation and no more. Everything is fine - people have hallucinations. And this perfectly illustrates the situation. No Luka's command - no action. And then you will make a friend, but the authorities will not like it? They will be sent to the collective farm, unprofitable of course.
  • vitvit123
    vitvit123 19 September 2020 07: 33
    -9
    As for me, the article is "rotten", not much mediocre and the author ... (in general, not really). I couldn't even read it carefully, it's hard for me. Personal perception, resentment, emotions ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 19 September 2020 07: 36
    +7
    Such a formulation of the question is inappropriate. It turns out that we should not love all those to whom Russia issues loans, and kiss on the gums of all those from whom Russia receives loans. Elections. Here the picture is simple, the choice is one, from the presented evil, choose the lesser. There is no such right to express an opinion about distrust in the presented "product". They talk a lot about the high percentage of those who voted "for" and do not talk at all about the percentage that did not come to the elections, but it is growing. And it turns out that the authorities are absolutely on ... eeeeee drum this phenomenon, especially since the turnout can be provided by an administrative method, although it is not so effective, but nevertheless. The crisis of the system, and a global one. Such was the case in ancient Greece at the end of the slave-owning democracy.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 09: 29
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      It turns out that we should not love all those to whom Russia issues loans, and kiss on the gums of all those from whom Russia receives loans. Elections. Here the picture is simple, the choice is one, from the presented evil, choose the lesser. To express an opinion about distrust presented by the "product", there is no such right

      I remember March 2018. And how the administrators here drowned for the Durector of the collective farm named after Lenin (thank God that at least a woman of difficult fate was not supported laughing).
      Then I rode over Mr. Grudinin with all my Soviet-Russian ruthlessness. And I still have more than two years of 3 warnings hanging since then.
      Yes, and God is with them, with warnings. There is a classic associative array given by the author in the article: Yanukovych-Lukashenko-Putin ... And how does this association differ from what our "Western partners" are talking to us with Next in addition?
      Or does the country where the servers of the Military Review website are located affects the minds of administrators?
      But you look at V. Shurygin - the owner of the site - and you won’t say that the eminent journalist who regularly takes part in the "Open Air" on TK Zvezda is so zealous, in the spirit of the "belolentochniki" and Navalny (God bless him to get to Moscow and further - to Tomsk or Omsk, and settle there forever).
      Ultimately, all this stupid talk about "freedom, equality and fraternity" is designed for those who see no further than their stomachs and wallets. Take it out and put it down - both a German salary and a Norwegian pension ...
      But no .... The bloody regime of the Kremlin spends the people's money with might and main. And for some reason the pig Poroshenko comes to mind with a memorable saying about the children of Donbass who will sit in the basements ...
      Keep it up, gentlemen admins! Soros can sleep well ...
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 19 September 2020 10: 30
        +9
        who does not see beyond their stomach and wallet.
        .... Who are you talking about? smile About those who vote or those for whom they vote? smile
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 10: 51
          -3
          Quote: parusnik
          Who are you talking about?

          About the very ones
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          who does not see beyond their stomach and wallet. Take it out and put it down - both a German salary and a Norwegian pension ...
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 19 September 2020 11: 18
            11
            Well, yes ... the middle class receives 17 tyrs, they see nothing further than their stomach and wallet, some greedy ... smile And all as one are pro-Western and ready to sell the German homeland and the Norwegian homeland for a salary and a pension. smile Those who receive super-profits, patriots of the Motherland, in a bad time will rally and take off their last shirt, sell their yards, lay down their wives and children. smile
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 12: 26
              -11 qualifying.
              Quote: parusnik
              middle class receiving 17 tyrov,

              And who is to blame for this? They are not middle class. They are lazy and greedy, counting other people's money ...
              Quote: parusnik
              Those who receive super-profits, patriots of the Motherland, in a bad time will rally and take off their last shirt, sell their yards, lay down their wives and children.

              It is the middle class that EARNS more than those 17 sput.
              And do not groan, those who are really looking for a way to earn money, tk. they know that the song sung in social networks about the impoverished brotherhood of parasites will not add to either the pocket or the bins.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 15: 52
                +3
                Well done, of course. It is necessary to be able to take and define 20 million people as loafers. And people like you then sing to us that we need to unite. Oha, flag in your hands and a drum around your neck. If tomorrow you go to war and fight like loot rowed. So let's see how talented you are with us. Can you replace the battalion or not.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 16: 23
                  -9
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  It is necessary to be able to take and define 20 million people as loafers.

                  Are you starving? A mental disability?
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  If tomorrow you go to war and fight like loot rowed.

                  None of your dog business - how I row money. Or I earn.
                  But in any case, I am not foolish on the porch, I am not asking for alms for Christ's sake, I am not shaking my nose with ulcers and crutches ...
                  ... In which regiment did you serve? ...
                  Give Parabellum to shoot himself with envy and greed?
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 18: 26
                    +4
                    Well, actually, a patriot of Russia has shown himself in all its glory. So it turns out that Russia is different with you. And protect yours if I have no desire. Burn it with a blue flame. laughing
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 20: 16
                      -3
                      You, such "patriots" of Russia, have been enough throughout its history, starting with the "Decembrists" who put soldiers under the guns, ending with the "white tape", and "walking" around Moscow, hiding behind children.
                      All you can do is find fault with the authorities. Always and at all times.
                      But you do not know how to do one thing - to organize your life and live it with dignity. The lack of ordinary decency allows you to literally be proud of your poverty, thrusting it under the nose of everyone and everything.
                      Hence, ignorance of the problems, and lack of understanding of the ways and ways out of them.
                      "... Give, give, and give again!" - this is your "patriotic FSE".
                      1. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 22: 08
                        -1
                        I don’t understand, of course, that the ghouls who wrested the people's property in the 90s consider this act worthy. But why did you decide that you can impose your rotten morality on the others?
                    2. Elturisto
                      Elturisto 19 September 2020 20: 55
                      0
                      Yes, this patriot from Israel, he has such a service ...
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 19 September 2020 15: 52
        +1
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Ultimately, all this goofy talk about "freedom, equality and fraternity"

        the talking shop usually ends there. The trouble is that there are no sane action programs, there are none at all.
        where are the VO servers located?
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 16: 25
          -5
          Quote: aybolyt678
          at all.
          where are the VO servers located?

          Not in Russia. And not even in Belarus.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 13: 11
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      It turns out that we should not love all those to whom Russia issues loans, and kiss on the gums of all those from whom Russia receives loans.

      The severity of the controversy lies not in who is giving out and to whom, but in what purposes. As far as I know, thanks only to Western "lending" the "Soviet defense industry" was ditched and the public property was rewritten for a pittance to private owners.
      Or do we have our own high-tech production facility in our country, created with loans from Uncle Sam? If only - the McDonald's network ... lol
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 19 September 2020 16: 31
        +4
        thanks only to Western "lending" the "Soviet defense industry" was ditched and the public property was rewritten to private owners for a pittance.
        ... That's why they should kiss in the gums .. smile "I drink, but we found money" (c) .. And about the loan issued to Belarus, in my town, before the loan was issued, the number of kindergartens did not increase, and after that it will not increase. The same is with production. A simple example, for the first May under the totalitarian regime, the demonstration began at 9 o'clock and ended at 14, now on the day of social partnership, May 1, the demonstration starts at 9 and ends at 11, sometimes earlier. And somehow from the issuance of loans to someone, production does not appear and from the receipt of the identity. As there were queues at the employment center, so it is ..
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 19 September 2020 07: 52
    -2
    Gotta love
    Oh my god .. why are there no anti-likes on the articles? I would only minus the provocative headline.
    1. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 19 September 2020 10: 09
      -1
      Then the author would walk in turtles, but he doesn't want that. It's easier to delete comments and leave one article of your loved one
  • Asad
    Asad 19 September 2020 07: 57
    +1
    As Reagan said about Somoza, this is probably how Putin thinks about Lukashenka in full measure!
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 September 2020 08: 05
      +6
      Reagan might have repeated what Franklin Delano Roosevelt said about Anastasio Somoza ... in 1939.
      1. Asad
        Asad 19 September 2020 08: 25
        +3
        Looked up on Google, like Roosevelt! Thanks for the info!
  • Mihail80
    Mihail80 19 September 2020 08: 05
    -1
    Nasty little article
  • Dizel200
    Dizel200 19 September 2020 08: 07
    -7
    It seems the author -> the author -> the author is a sent Cossack and a lobbyist, judging by his latest articles laughing
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 19 September 2020 08: 12
    +1
    = Should I love Belarusians? Interest Ask. Debt is generally such a concept ... So, most likely, it should not and should not, if there is no good reason for this. =
    So no one forces! CAN YOU LOVE? - Love. But it seems to me that you do not know this feeling. Love and duty are incompatible concepts.
    But you, Roman, unfortunately, are not given to understand this.
    = Actually, there is a reason. And not only weighty, it’s very weighty. Weighing one and a half billion. Dollars. =
    That's all your love. Give you dollars and you will love, give - you will hate. Your feelings depend on who gives dollars.
    You do not know the concept of love, just as you do not know the concept of brotherly feelings.
    = But you also want to be a brother and someone who is not abandoned. So that I get something too. =
    This is what you care about the most! The main thing is to fill your own belly!
    = Forged results of voting on the Constitution (whoever wants to, let him believe, I don’t believe), a bunch of ballot stuffings and forgeries in the elections that just took place, the authorities' absolutely disregard for this topic - we already have all this. =
    And do you have irrefutable proof of all this? It’s not a matter of faith, I believe, I don’t believe. This is already a matter of criminal law.

    = So I am very grateful to the Belarusians who show me my tomorrow in Russia. By example. Therefore, I simply cannot but respect their position, their choice. =
    And what did the Belarusians choose? Are you sure they chose Tikhanovskaya?
    Let's imagine the incredible - they really chose Tikhanovskaya. What awaits them after this choice? The main thing for you is choice. And for normal, thinking - the main thing is what will happen after the elections.
    Ukraine chose a clown and the results of this choice did not hesitate to tell. Do you want such a share for the Belarusians too? But the Ukrainians, albeit with a stretch, can be understood - if only not Poroshenko. And the Belarusians?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 19 September 2020 13: 15
      +3
      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
      = Should I love Belarusians? Interest Ask. Debt is generally such a thing ... So, most likely it shouldn't and shouldn'tunless there is a compelling reason for it. =

      And there is such a dialogue:
    2. Terrible GMO
      Terrible GMO 19 September 2020 15: 09
      -2
      And what did the Belarusians choose? Are you sure they chose Tikhanovskaya?
      Let's imagine the incredible - they really chose Tikhanovskaya. What awaits them after this choice? The main thing for you is choice. And for normal, thinking - the main thing is what will happen after the elections.

      And Belarusians are confident. Because they know how they voted. Not out of great love and everyone understands what to do if Luke transplanted EVERYONE.
      Tikhanovskaya promised one thing - new elections within six months. She is not a politician and everyone understands this.
      That's all.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 20 September 2020 20: 03
        0
        Quote: TerribleGMO
        And Belarusians are confident.

        How many Belarusians are you sure? Those who came from all over Belarus to Minsk? It's all ? But the majority did not come! Everything is exactly like in Ukraine in 13-14. And an aggressive, organized minority dominates the unorganized majority.
  • depressant
    depressant 19 September 2020 08: 34
    +5
    You need to love the Belarusians, because they are one of our most beautiful incarnations. Lukashenka is not allowed, he is one of the worst of us. He is the darkest thing in us. Having put our part, that is, all of us, at the service of his personal interests, he turned into a wall of political darkness that must be demolished.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 September 2020 18: 55
      +5
      Quote: depressant
      it has become a wall of political darkness that must be demolished.

      so, what is next? To turn Belarus into Russia with the help of vouchers? or hold fair elections where
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 19 September 2020 19: 09
        +5
        where a pro-Russian protégé will have to compete with candidates from the most democratic country in the world, and then, if a miracle happens, compromise between our hawks who want to privatize the people's property with the dummy agents of the democrats?
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    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 20 September 2020 20: 25
      0
      Quote: depressant
      Lukashenka is not allowed, he is one of the worst of us.

      On what basis did you make this conclusion? Do you live in Belarus?
      Quote: depressant
      By placing our part at the service of your personal interests

      And what is his personal interest? Anticipating your answer, I immediately ask the following question - are you sure what exactly is in this?
      Quote: depressant
      he turned into a wall of political darkness,

      When there is nothing concrete to say, then pseudo-intellectual masturbation begins. How is the political wall? What's this? Political darkness, how to feel it? Try it? Imagine? And the wall of darkness? Like this? What is it? How can the wall of darkness be demolished? Bulldozer?
  • pro100y.belarus
    pro100y.belarus 19 September 2020 08: 45
    +4
    Normal article. Everything is laid out on the shelves. Although I do not approve of Skomorokhov's incomprehensible love for the French fighter Dewuatin-520, but here I completely agree with him.
    On my own behalf, I will add - I did not vote for Tikhanovskaya, but I just can't imagine how we can continue to live in this insane asylum. If we retreat now and leave the inadequate in power, he will destroy us all without any laws or constitutions.
    It is good for the Russians to argue about the usefulness and uselessness of Lukashenka, but for the Belarusians it is a matter of survival.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 15: 54
      -1
      And the type is not a question for us? Who needs NATO bases in Belarus or another anarchy on their borders?
  • Clueless
    Clueless 19 September 2020 08: 46
    +8
    The future will be just that. Because our government sometimes thinks that we live in the 90s, without the Internet, alternative media, etc.
    The Belarusians will start hating the Russians a little more, and Lukashenka will leave sooner or later, and we will get a second Ukraine close by with their love for us.
    But all the same, Putin is not, not for that he made senators for life with immunity in the new constitution, so that he could go for another term. He'd better go to the senators, and put a dummy in his place, which he will rule. The only question is who will be this dummy.
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 19 September 2020 08: 56
    +2
    You don't need to love them .. Just remember, Poland and Belarus, these are the territories where the Vaticans come to us with sword and fire .. And don't think that politicians have somehow changed a lot in a hundred years .. They continue to stubbornly knock on new gate.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 16: 07
      +2
      Some have Vaticans, some have Anglo-Saxons in their heads and closets. Everyone goes crazy in their own way, instead of turning on their brains and finally looking at the surrounding reality with an adequate look.
      1. Siberian54
        Siberian54 20 September 2020 14: 14
        0
        And the reality is a nuclear military bloc that has already used military force (Yugoslavia) bypassing the UN ..
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 14: 17
          0
          It would seem that what does the Vaticans have to do with it.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 19 September 2020 09: 01
    -2
    Bad article.
    negative
  • acetophenon
    acetophenon 19 September 2020 09: 16
    0
    Good. To love - not to love ... Take another chamomile to tell fortunes.
    There are only 2 questions. As usual.
    Who is to blame?
    и
    What to do?

    Blame, IMHO, the same peppers as in Ukraine. The court for the development of the situation in Belarus is managed by the same personnel. All with the same methods and with the same success. Needless to say that the results, sooner or later, will be exactly the same?
    To do it ... As old man Zhvanetsky said, they say, something needs to be corrected at the conservatory ... Yes, it should be ... The conservatory will not correct itself. But! We are at war. And whether the trick that was done with Boriska will be able to turn out with Putin too - it's guesswork ... And wait until he finally goes off the rails ... It's not an option either. But to arrange a Maidan is not to love yourself.
  • Million
    Million 19 September 2020 09: 20
    +7
    Probably, we should talk not about ordinary Belarusians, but about those in whose hands money and power are concentrated, as well as about those who want to lie under the United States.
    1. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 19 September 2020 10: 11
      +1
      The author cannot write badly about the USA, he will be left without a salary
  • Mmm.
    Mmm. 19 September 2020 09: 22
    +3
    And it seems that the author of "Roman Skomarokhov" wrote everything competently, but there is some kind of abomination in this opus, so to speak: foulbrood, everything is too hopeless on his part and in one gate and all in vain. Who do we work for, dear?
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 19 September 2020 09: 50
    -3
    Short. Thank you for the article!
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 19 September 2020 13: 40
      +3
      Quote: imobile2008
      Short. Thank you for the article!

      Have you become intellectually, morally or financially richer from direct and gross incitement of ethnic hatred to the fraternal people, a state allied with Russia?
  • maktub
    maktub 19 September 2020 09: 52
    +5
    There is no need to love, not love anyone, at the interstate level such concepts do not exist. If you want the neighboring state to pursue a loyal policy, pay (with loans, discounts, preferences, and even better buy up at the root)
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 19 September 2020 10: 09
    +6
    Who should be - forgiven everyone. The elites are forgiven.
    Citizens of the USSR, holders of vouchers, depositors of the Sberbank of the USSR, pensioners with their reform and others.

    For hundreds of percent of the profit, the capitalists will forgive anything. (Do you remember the salaries of the Millers and Rogozins?) Well, at least there are no snipers on the roofs yet.

    And the percentages will write whatever they want (both 99,9 and 130% have already been)
    And the constitution, and the president to be elected.

    Just a little: you don't want to, like in Ukraine? How is it in Belarus? How is it in France? How in the USA ???

    For some reason, the authorities do not remember about China, Japan or Korea (where they are actually imprisoned from power) ...
  • was-witek
    was-witek 19 September 2020 10: 53
    +4
    The article is clearly ordered and is aimed at separating the Republic of Belarus from the Russian Federation and creating unrest in the Russian Federation .... very finely crumbles, reminds of our liberals .. one-on-one performance of the "chicken" and Euronews
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 19 September 2020 10: 59
    +1
    The classic method of swinging the situation on the part of Mr. Skomorokhov. Take Molotov cocktails and comrades to the streets!
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 17: 09
      +2
      No, of course it's better to endure. The retirement age will be raised, taxes will be imposed, a couple more Yeltsin centers will be built, the mausoleum will be demolished, a couple of dozen billionaires will appear, the middle class with incomes of 17 thousand will be instead of 20 40 million. We must endure.
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 19 September 2020 19: 05
        -1
        What am I? I’m not. Take cocktails and go outside - we'll meet there. Here the United States will rejoice. And this ... do not forget your women (children), well ... to match the lilac (or any other) revolution.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 22: 01
          -1
          You also forgot to mention Ukraine for the hundredth time.
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 20 September 2020 03: 58
            +1
            I hate Ukraine (no, not Ukrainians), I am tired of it to the point of hiccups, I even try not to write anything in these topics. So it's not a question for me. And please ... don't poke me, but this is ... not necessary.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 09: 58
              -1
              I'm actually talking about a set of templates from kakbypatriots trough guardians. You are happy with your life, I understood that. Me not. Actually, not only my own, but in general the life of the country and my people. I see where everything is going, I see what can be changed for the better. And I know that within this rotten system it is impossible to do this.
              1. Sergey Averchenkov
                Sergey Averchenkov 20 September 2020 10: 12
                0
                I? Happy with your life? Of course not - so many mistakes, so many missed opportunities ... in fact, probably like everyone else. Let me correct you - "my people", "for the better", "rotten system". They are not YOUR people. This is the "best" for YOU. Any government is "rotten" from the opposition ... and in general from all sides. Will you come to power better? But figs you, just instead of "them" you will steal. It's human nature.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 10: 41
                  -1
                  Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                  They are not YOUR people.

                  Well, if you do not feel yourself a part of it, then you can even talk to you about.
                  Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                  Any government is "rotten" from the opposition ...

                  What is this generally said? Well, ok, but for the authorities there is rotten opposition. What's next?
                  Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                  Will you come to power better?

                  Why not? You are ready to stand up for this power to death. And now isn't it better than in the 90s as you like to tell the guardians?
                  Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                  But figs you, just instead of "them" you will steal. It's human nature.

                  About how kitchen philosophy began to dance. So I'm not offering you capitalism, which is itself the theft of surplus value, but socialism.
                  1. Sergey Averchenkov
                    Sergey Averchenkov 20 September 2020 11: 50
                    -1
                    "Well, if you do not feel yourself a part of it, then you can talk to you at all."

                    Just don't need demagoguery and sophistry. I'm not going to practice wit and resourcefulness with you. Don't want to talk? Do not. But your expression "my people" sounded ... how to explain to you ... as if it is your personal, like a car. Maybe you are not Russian and do not feel these nuances?
                    What's next? Do you think a great polemicist? Well, let me ask you what next? An idiotic question. Then the priest.
                    I hate any power, because power is vicious in itself. Power is violence. It is the rise of one over many.
                    I was born in 64 and lived enough under socialism - they also stole there. Although socialism as a formation is certainly better than capitalism. And in general I am now thinking - if power at this stage of development of society is inevitable, then maybe let it be totalitarian? In principle, there is no difference - what they have, what that way. But there will be more order.
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 12: 22
                      -1
                      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                      Just don't need demagoguery and sophistry.

                      Begin with yourself.
                      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                      But your expression "my people" sounded ... how to explain to you ... as if it is your personal, like a car. Maybe you are not Russian and do not feel these nuances?

                      You are not Russian with your demagoguery and ardent desire to attribute your rotten thoughts to me.
                      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                      What's next? Do you think a great polemicist? Well, let me ask you what next?

                      A question to a question? Are you really Russian?
                      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                      I was born in 64 and lived enough under socialism - they also stole there.

                      This, by and large, was not socialism, although it was declared. To the greatest regret, for many reasons, the transition to socialism did not work.
                      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                      And in general I am now thinking - if power at this stage of development of society is inevitable, then maybe let it be totalitarian? In principle, there is no difference - what they have, what that way. But there will be more order.

                      Totalitarian power always means stagnation. When the clever but short-sighted end up making their way into power and turning the life of society into a stagnant swamp. Only movement towards socialism is development. Fascism is a dead end and degradation.
                      1. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 20 September 2020 12: 46
                        -2
                        "Start with yourself, you are not Russian with your demagoguery and ardent desire to attribute your rotten thoughts to me."
                        Are you angry? It happens. From the outside, it looks pretty funny. Advice - don't show your irritability. After all, I also do not like your words, but this does not make me call names. Take it easy - the world doesn't end on this page. :)
                        Am I Russian? Well, I'll try to explain - my mother is a quarter Tatar, and my father is Russian (from near Smolensk). And who am I? :) Asking you Russian, I didn't want to offend anyone (and even more so) - all because of that phrase.

                        "By and large, it was not socialism, although it was declared. To the greatest regret, for many reasons, it was not possible to switch to socialism."
                        Why do you think it will be successful this time? I will again turn to "kitchen philosophy" - until a person develops to the extent that he would accept the rules of socialism, it is useless. Not even a person - a society. Violently - yes, you can shove, but will there be any sense from it.

                        "Totalitarian power is always in the end stagnation. When clever but short-sighted eventually make their way into power and turn the life of society into a stagnant swamp. Only movement towards socialism is development. Fascism is a dead end and degradation."
                        I've had enough revolutions - let there be stagnation. By the way, life was not bad under Brezhnev.
                      2. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 12: 59
                        0
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        Why do you think it will be successful this time? I will again turn to "kitchen philosophy" - until a person develops to the extent that he would accept the rules of socialism, it is useless. Not even a person - a society. Violently - yes, you can shove, but will there be any sense from it.

                        Nobody will give you one hundred percent guarantee. But if you do not move in this direction, it will be a tremendous disaster.
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        I've had enough revolutions - let there be stagnation. By the way, life was not bad under Brezhnev.

                        You do not want a revolution, but you will get it, and the further you drag, the more bloody. The events of 91 are a product of the stability named after Leonid Ilyich. When instead of reforms they were resting on laurels and eyewash.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 20 September 2020 20: 48
      +1
      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
      No, of course it's better to endure.

      Why - to endure? Let's do this - your front door lock has broken in your apartment, a faucet in the bathroom has flowed, a light bulb in the hallway has burned out, a toilet has burst. Will you change your apartment? Or change the lock, change the gasket in the crane box, screw in a new light bulb, change the toilet?
      If you do not like something, then you also demand to change what you do not like. Why change the president because of this? Where is the guarantee that everything will suit you under the new president? And demanding a change of the president because "he has been sitting in the president's chair for too long" is generally stupid.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 20 September 2020 21: 09
        0
        This is not about changing the president. Although it is also possible to present a cart and a cart of claims to him. It's about changing the formation.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 20 September 2020 21: 28
          +1
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          This is not about changing the president. Although it is also possible to present a cart and a cart of claims to him. It's about changing the formation.

          Well, that's another matter. This is already a revolution. Can a crowd organized over the Internet "make" a revolution? Apparently, no. But what can this crowd do? That's right - a mess. Who needs it? That's right - to the enemies of the state.
          And to "make" a revolution a party is needed. And dozens of years of preparatory work. To make it really happen.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 19 September 2020 11: 03
    -2
    Article plus! good laughing Yes, so it is. This nonsense to sponsor, has long been tired of it. So what was the USSR to break? !!!! Probably to watch this nonsense? The gag reflex is caused by this our political reality negative With the Americans, we're kind of like enemies laughing With NATO hilarious, are going to fight. wassat It's a circus!
    But pawnshops are flourishing. And everyone has a handful of marginalized people. Crime is the first to react to all this. So we are confidently going into a bright future. The main thing, of course, is that gays do not pass and there is no war. But other…
    laughing good ha ha ha! 100% It is.
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 19 September 2020 11: 05
    +1
    Belarus today is not Ukraine of 2014. I see.

    Unfortunately, this is not Soviet Russia either. Lukashenka could not take advantage of socialism, for me Minsk is a city of the Soviet Union, which suddenly artificially became another country, always waiting for positive news from there, did not wait. I believe that RB was a good platform for testing and improving socialism, the main thing is to calculate everything
  • Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 19 September 2020 11: 30
    +4
    Hmmm .., horses mixed in a heap, people - Belarusians, loans, Putin and tanks, love and clubs. Here, everyone who spoke adequately about this anti-Belorussian, anti-Russian opus by R. Skomorokhov was drugged. Why did the article inspire the minusers so much? I advise the author to write about Belarus without attaching edrosov to it, and to throw less liberal guano - “the Belarusian dictator, the riot police’s batons, is also waiting for a Rossiyushka”, if the stupid people do not rise up and let's storm the Kremlin with their bare breasts. It is necessary to separate flies from cutlets. And the heading in general - in the furnace - kindle, author, not-well, sir.
  • GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 19 September 2020 11: 49
    -1
    Muscovites ...... Are there Siberians here?
    1. Aag
      Aag 19 September 2020 14: 28
      +1
      Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
      Muscovites ...... Are there Siberians here?

      Yes. If you put the question in a geographical aspect))).
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 19 September 2020 11: 55
    -1
    Strikingly correct thoughts for a traditionally bohemian VO. Bravo!
    I am afraid that puffing for the benefit of outside forces and some kind of muddy schemes that do not bring direct and distinct benefits to their population is a "glorious" tradition of our state, no matter how it is called.
    I understand why Lukash is given this loan - as in the case of Yanukovych, we essentially slept through the whole ins and outs of the process, as we had already spilled the boiling over in Poland, the Baltic states and the GDR. This is another glorious tradition of ours - until the very last moment we do not see any problem in a seething and swarming little man, based on our own vast experience of how this little man can be fed with lawyers, dispersed, dispersed, intimidated, seated, and so on. Then, of course, it will still happen something that "never happened and now again" - but in this case, traditionally no one will bear responsibility for the issued and non-repayable loans, and for the foreign policy collapse - everything ASUALLY will be dumped on the wily hand of the west.
    Okay, God bless him. The second problem is that our government NEVER KNOWLEDGE TO SPEND MONEY. This ability was absent in principle - because there was a lot of money, the yasak was collected regularly, but there was never a public inquiry - where is it spent, and the money itself settled in the hands and plans of a very small group of people. Monarchy, socialism, capitalism - these are all brands of the Raketa vacuum cleaner, which differed only in the color and material of the hose in this regard. It is because of the inability to spend our population for a hundred plus years has lagged behind Europe so well in living standards - although we had every opportunity to narrow this gap.
    Belarus has long been a sovereign state, with a very obstinate government. Did we have the opportunity to force their unification with the Russian Federation? Was. The moment was lost. Now we are stupidly fed with promises for something that is no longer clear and are frightened by what will inevitably happen, the more severe the longer the AHL will sit there.
    As for "Love" - ​​I believe that we have a VERY big country and we should only love ourselves. It would be time!
    How much money was thrown, torn away from Russian villages and cities - into the Bolgar brothers, the Baltic states, Poland, all these fraternal PRC-Egypt-Arabs-African young socialisms, into building deep cooperation of enterprises in the countries of the former USSR, which are now not allies - Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, Azerbaijan. All this was invested for the sake of a certain bright future and some kind of existential ecstasy - WHERE IS THE RESULT? So where ?! This policy was stupid, deceitful and unprofitable for our country, which has lost its status as a superpower and a strong economy, buried head over heels in this pile of idiocy. We do not need to sponsor anyone and love anyone - we have 140 million of our own population, rapidly aging and 1/4 beggar. Let's get down to it and they are already there themselves somehow!
    1. Oleg Skvortsov
      Oleg Skvortsov 19 September 2020 13: 17
      +3
      minus put for the word - WE. If I eat cabbage, and the Kremlin gentlemen - minced meat - this does not mean that we eat cabbage rolls. Saying "a" - say - "b"
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 19 September 2020 13: 30
        +1
        I'm talking about a philosophy that should be formed in society and not calling for conscience or compromises between the government and the people. If in our society healthy mercantilism triumphs over this historical-patriotic-pretentious frenzy, everything will happen by itself, and the endless waves of external, stupid voluntarism will end.
        "WE" is a culture of society's attitude to things that are happening around. In the long evenings and months, which smoothly got angry over the years, I watched our media endlessly press kefir and fermented baked milk from Ukraine 2014. I saw a host of schizophrenics who pretended to be experts from both sides and carried such nonsense that it seemed that gray hair was the result of high-quality staining - and now, watching all this, I thought, why should I actually be so important what is going on there? In Ukraine, Syria, Venezuela? In the same Belarus. After all, here taxes are collected from me and the State Duma should think about how my well-being, my housemates, my street and city should grow.
        For more than a hundred years, we have all been fed with fairy tales - and now China has caught up with us in average salary. China, Karl! Which we pulled out of complete devastation 70 years ago.

        You can perceive all this as a kind of "demagoguery" - but I believe that our state should count every penny and have the only purpose of its existence - knocked out in large and unambiguous letters - RUSSIA SHOULD RICH AND DEVELOP. Not Belarus, not Ukraine.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 18: 09
      +4
      And nothing that the division of labor is a way to increase its productivity? And the slogans are enough to feed, you can apply a lot and as a result, instead of overpowering, get a bunch of small banana Russians. Although probably lush Russia. Bananas are not growing very much yet. But the bumps are not bad.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 19 September 2020 19: 12
        +2
        You know, there is a theorist, and there are observations. You don't have to go far. Here you write "division of labor" - yes, that's probably good. But we also have a sovereign state, in which today is Old Man, and tomorrow is some kind of Aunt, which (well, let's say) will be chosen by the Belarusian people, who have longed for European integration. And this Aunt will say - we do not need Russian military facilities here, but we to her - and get oil at European prices! And she to us - and go to the forest with the supply of BELAZ vehicles! And so on. And we will again find ourselves in a situation where some thread Ukraine made diesel engines, etc. for us, and then we ended up with a gaping hole, "suddenly" closing which we destroy a bunch of plans, and without closing we have to trade our interests. I believe that everything critical should be created at home.
        So that some Aunties or Farthers do not throw a certain black mark on the negotiating table every time.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 19 September 2020 19: 05
      +2
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      All this was invested for the sake of a certain bright future and some kind of existential ecstasy - WHERE IS THE RESULT? So where ?! This policy was stupid, deceitful and disadvantageous for our country.

      stupid and unprofitable agree. Lying? - no, at least at certain stages.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      How much money was thrown, torn away from Russian villages and cities - into the Bolgar brothers, the Baltic states, Poland, all these fraternal China-Egypt-Arabs-African young socialisms, into building deep cooperation of enterprises in the countries of the former USSR

      do not compare Egypt and Poland with RB. RB is the remainder of the Union with a leader who cannot cope. Too small a country for complete autarchy.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 19 September 2020 19: 27
        +4
        If the manager does not cope, but he did before, he must be sent to a well-deserved retirement.
        If he did not cope before, it is already a question of% of healthy tendencies in society. If the population is so stupid that it does not see where the backside, where in front, where is good and where is bad - deserves this, but the question of our support for such regimes is already a question of the rationality of our government, and, accordingly, our society, which chooses such power.
        If a person has driven himself into such a dead end, this is his problem. After all, it was not aliens who attacked Belarus - it was he who sat there for 26 years. A man who has repeatedly crumbled a bun for our country, there are different little rivers pushed about independence and sovereignty - here, please, here it is independence!
        Eat with a big spoon - after all, independence is just the RIGHT to clean up your mess yourself.

        We had to build relations with the BlR according to a simple scheme - the benefits come in one basket with the degree of integration. Classic package roadmap. Do you want to grow? Welcome deeper into our arms. Instead, they teased us for years with salts on a fishing rod, stirring up local nationalism, and when he wanted to decide (somewhat less quietly than it was in Ukraine), we pay and fix it again. A very strange story! And so I look at it and think - what do we want in this situation? How do we see its logical dissolution?

        Here we give the Old Man money, we support him. Then he will sit. What's next ? He will say, sitting on his badly shaken throne - "let's go to Russia, integrate?" :-) Or maybe he will plant a receiver who says so? What are we expecting? That everything will be again "like in the old" when the protests "dunk"? No, it won't. And even if - after all, our union was a pure fiction, the strap of which was pulled for years without effect.
        All this is very similar to a forest fire, which they are trying to extinguish in a pioneering way - this is how I see our foreign policy. In this issue and in related ones.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 19 September 2020 21: 01
          +1
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          How do we see its logical dissolution?

          I personally don't see. Although I am a strong fan of socialism, and I believe that it is the future, I do not understand why the Belarusians are in decline? maybe because we did it under Brezhnev? declared socialism and went to capitalism? did not rehabilitate Stalin? and how do we integrate? what will we nationalize or will we issue vouchers to Belarusians? young Belarusians probably don't want to join us, but to the West, and why are we better than the West?
          1. Knell wardenheart
            Knell wardenheart 19 September 2020 23: 50
            +2
            Well, I see the problem as follows - Lukash is a person of a certain level of established thinking. He is not stupid, at the same time when his youth (Early Brezhnev) and his own party career (12 years in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union + some in the Komsomol) were passing - unwittingly leave an imprint on his perception of life, democratic institutions, on his understanding of "a good level life "and what he considers important and what is bullshit. He is a kind of grated party roll, this strength in a certain measure helped him and his country in the turbid 90s, but then it turns into a certain bone of thinking - the inability to evolve above the level reached at some stage.
            From the point of view of Lukashenka - already being at this level is a direct fountain and shikardos, and he applies and forms his efforts not to move somewhere in the direction of "better" (he does not catch up well as best as possible), but in the direction of keeping what is available on this + - level. That he did in recent years, so to speak, tacking. Until he, as a politician, reached this conditional level of stability and prosperity - I have no doubt that he was loved and appreciated in Blr.
            How I got there - he had a great credit of trust from the society and card blanche for activities. It reminds me very much of our own situation in 2012. The only difference is that the Old Man reached his "maximum speed" 4 years earlier, and since then he has simply been brainwashing people with the same tricks. This is quite satisfactory for the stale bureaucracy and state employees, but the middle class and the 1994+ generation are less satisfied with this, because in fact they have been observing stagnation all their lives, and Old Man is very stingy about new tricks, preferring to entertain the proven ones.

            IMHO in a situation of certain stability in the modern world, any ruler who is delayed in this period for more than 2 electoral cycles runs the risk of facing what Lukasz faced. It is necessary either to "change faces", or to learn new tricks, or to obsess the eyes a little less, and work a little more on the development of the state (and not just on maintaining stability).
            1. karpusha
              karpusha 20 September 2020 22: 20
              0
              Bravo, they wrote everything right.
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 20 September 2020 21: 01
        0
        Quote: aybolyt678

        with a leader who can't cope.

        That is, you could handle it? Not? Then indicate who would handle it. Don't you know this? Then where did you get the idea that he can't cope?
  • Sputnik 11
    Sputnik 11 19 September 2020 11: 56
    0
    What a fine example of a customized pronavalnovsky type of article.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 19 September 2020 18: 11
      0
      Do you need a bravura demagogic article like those that are published on turbo-patriotic sites like doneunas?
      1. Sputnik 11
        Sputnik 11 19 September 2020 20: 59
        0
        I would have something about clean air and sunshine winked
  • Old jew
    Old jew 19 September 2020 13: 26
    +5
    Why should I love Belarusians? - If you do not like Belarusians, Ukrainians, you will be "loved" by the American army, led by European perverts.
  • iouris
    iouris 19 September 2020 13: 30
    +6
    Isn't there a clear Russophobia in the question? Then let the author explain what "Russia" is.
  • sergo
    sergo 19 September 2020 13: 35
    0
    After the money was given to Yanukovych, he barely carried his legs out of Ukraine. I would not like to draw parallels, but in the place of dad, I would have thought 100 times before taking. You never know, history repeats itself in a spiral and it is not a fact that he will have time to take his legs out of Belarus.
  • Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 19 September 2020 13: 37
    +5
    Well done Roman, great, you moved this gadyushnik with a stick, as the cats sang, they smell, whose fat they ate, so they howled, they are afraid that sooner or later, but they will have to answer.
  • Captan78
    Captan78 19 September 2020 13: 47
    0
    Last week, after Staver's article, I wrote with surprise why there is still no angry article from Skomorokhov? And here she is! Quite predictable ... Roman, what kind of strike are you talking about, or do you know better from there? Although okay, this is the opinion of the author, he wrote about the amendments to your Constitution in a similar vein
  • dimasik-nl
    dimasik-nl 19 September 2020 14: 54
    +3
    Even Zelensky speaks much more respectfully about Russia than Lukashenka, listen to his speeches over the past 2 years.
  • Alsur
    Alsur 19 September 2020 14: 57
    +4
    Quote: Alekseev
    Quote: kepmor
    not in the horse feed ...

    Something Roma sang in a hostile voice. crying
    Lukashenka, they say, is not good, they say, people are beaten. But in Ukraine, they did not finish off individual representatives of the people, also the whole Kuev ran with candles in front of McCain, not to mention the Maydauns, who rushed to the Berkut and what came of it?
    Lukashenka, indeed, sometimes was inadequate, but he used his tongue more. As for the loan, not the aid, then all, all countries that are global players in the world finance their "friends".
    The United States itself admits through the mouth of Nuland that $ 5 billion was spent on the Ukrainian Maidan ...
    Etc.
    Or does Roman think that Tihanovski hiding in Lithuania will be better than Luka?
    That is unlikely.
    And we have enough money for Su, T-90 and kindergartens, the main thing is that there is order. More "landings", an article for unjustified enrichment was introduced, etc. This is where the authorities have something to work on. It is not worth moaning about the loan aimed at preventing the Ukrainian scenario in Belarus, even "having brains" and repeating the stupidity about "hundreds of lards" and considering himself an "agronomist" for growing "a whole galaxy of pro-Russian politicians." wink

    Yes, he was always the views of an agent of influence, disguising himself as a thinking Russian.