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Russian armored vehicles will receive additional protection

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Russian armored vehicles will receive additional protection

All new armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles entering the troops from this year will necessarily receive additional protection in the form of lattice screens and armor shields. Reported by "News" citing sources in the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex.


According to the publication, the decision to equip armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles with additional protection was made at the end of last year following a study of the experience of using armored vehicles in combat conditions in Syria. The first batches of armored vehicles with enhanced protection have already arrived at the units of the Southern and Western military districts. Currently, the issue of equipping armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles is being decided.

Two types of additional protection are installed on armored vehicles: firstly, these are armor plates, which reinforce the vulnerable spots of the equipment - the sides, the base of the tower, etc., and, secondly, lattice screens installed around the perimeter. If necessary, the installation and dismantling of additional protection by the crew takes less than an hour. In peacetime, such protection is not required, since it significantly expands the dimensions of the machine and makes it difficult to use it in forest areas or in settlements.

It is stated that the combined screens protect armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles from 7,62 mm and 12,6 mm bullets at distances of 400 m or more and with a probability of about 50% can protect against anti-tank grenades and missiles.

The Ministry of Defense notes that in recent years, wearable anti-tank weapons are increasingly used in armed conflicts. Their concentration among illegal armed groups is very high. Additional protection of armored vehicles is vital for the protection of military personnel.


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  1. paul3390
    paul3390 17 September 2020 11: 41
    +2
    with a probability of about 50% can protect against anti-tank grenades
    Interesting. Will it either protect or not?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 17 September 2020 12: 11
      0
      spooks, contributed to the development of armored vehicles.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 17 September 2020 12: 44
        11
        spooks, contributed to the development of armored vehicles.
        And what, in 1943 the Germans fought with dushmans?
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 17 September 2020 12: 46
          +4

          This is a close-up. Drahtgeflecht-Schürzen is called.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 17 September 2020 12: 49
            +9
            The Red Army also improvised in 1945.
            1. Torak
              Torak 17 September 2020 22: 02
              0
              This is a completely different topic. This mesh is intended to propel a cumulative hand grenade through the spring effect. That’s all. ”From the Faust patron, she did not help at all.
        2. Torak
          Torak 17 September 2020 22: 00
          0
          This is a completely different topic. This mesh is intended to propel a cumulative hand grenade through the spring effect. That's all.
    2. Oleg83
      Oleg83 17 September 2020 13: 32
      +5
      And at one time they laughed at the Americans here, when they attached bars to the Stryker in Iraq
      1. Torak
        Torak 17 September 2020 21: 56
        +5
        And now I laugh. For these are just grids and not combined screens, it's like heaven and earth!
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 September 2020 11: 42
    +1
    protect armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles from 7,62 mm bullets and 12,6 mm
    Didn't get it a little, author. wink
    caliber 12,7 mm (12,7 × 99 mm NATO and Soviet / Russian 12,7 × 108 mm), borrowed from heavy machine guns, ...
    And so everything is logical, it is protection in Africa too.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 17 September 2020 11: 53
    0
    All are forced to hang up additional protection. Grilles are typical. Most importantly, Schaub was a good judge.
    1. Torak
      Torak 17 September 2020 22: 08
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      The fact of the matter is that there is little sense in the combined screens on the armored personnel carrier and infantry fighting vehicles, but maneuverability and speed are significantly reduced. This is for tanks in 50% of the combined screen manages to protect the crew. I got acquainted with the results of tests of both our and Czech research institutes 20 years ago. Therefore, no one was in a hurry to hang them on light armored vehicles. Campaign is some kind of sabotage.
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 21 September 2020 20: 32
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        laughing about 20 years old there were shouts of "hang the bars on the equipment" .. They hanged them .. now the cries of "Fuck the bars hung up" .. you can't please). And yes .. what is the use of "speed and maneuver" if the technique is harnessed at low speed or even when it stands still?
  4. Stalllker
    Stalllker 17 September 2020 11: 53
    +3
    Something I have doubts about this fence in a circle No. if only from stones and sticks
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 17 September 2020 12: 02
      +2
      Quote: Stalllker
      Something I have doubts about this fence in a circle No. if only from stones and sticks

      This is the experience of the war in Syria, they do everything right, even if it only improves 50% or the probability is 50/50! If only for the sake of this, it was worth starting to participate in the Syrian conflict, otherwise it would later cost a lot of the lives of our servicemen and losses of armored vehicles in a possible conflict with the West.
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 17 September 2020 15: 32
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        Are you talking about the experience of patrolling when the Kurds threw stones at the patrol ???? And the tigers with armored personnel carriers stuck with bars. Oh and experience !!! And on Syrian tanks, I did not see the bars, they generally walked "naked"
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 17 September 2020 16: 12
          +2
          Quote: Stalllker
          Are you talking about the experience of patrolling when the Kurds threw stones at the patrol ???? And the tigers with armored personnel carriers stuck with bars. Oh and experience !!! And on Syrian tanks, I did not see the bars, they generally walked "naked"

          You can, of course, joke, but google, there are a lot of pictures from Syria where military equipment (both of the Syrian army and barmaley) is in bars and in additional booking, and I would not consider myself smarter than our military, well, unless of course you are in Syria carried out work on the collection and analysis of combat losses of weapons and military equipment and the impact on the loss of additional armor.
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 18 September 2020 03: 33
            -1
            I saw all these photos with bags, nets, both whole tanks and holes in the nets and armor. And I read the opinion that this is more a psychological factor of protection, and not a real one
    2. Torak
      Torak 17 September 2020 22: 14
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      The way it is. The combined screen (and this is, after the grating, another intermediate armor plate, necessarily placed at a distance from the main armor), only a tank can protect 50%. And then on condition that the HF is not a tandem type. I was deeply interested in this topic. The point in the combined screen was in the 80s and then only for tanks. Light armor can be protected from bullets, but you need to keep in mind that this crap is quite heavy and significantly reduces the maneuverability and speed of light armored vehicles, and they are very important for it!
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 18 September 2020 03: 36
        0
        The question is not about tanks, but about armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles and other lightly armored vehicles, on which additional sheets of armor cannot be hung, unless bulletproof or fragmentation
      2. psiho117
        psiho117 18 September 2020 22: 44
        +2
        Quote: Torak
        The point in the combined screen was in the 80s and then only for tanks

        this is the case - lattices, then, it turns out they carry several functions.
        The first function: really - to break the warhead, interrupting or hindering the formation of godfathers. jets.
        Second function:
        Cause the premature operation of the warhead, and the early formation of kum. jets
        But at the same time - just gratings, without an armor screen - bullshit. An armor screen is needed, just then we will observe what is shown in the picture

        deformed godfather. the funnel prematurely emits an unstable jet, which, passing the path of air-armor screen-air-side armor, finally destabilizes, and this is what turns out:

        Research Institute of Steel persistently writes:
        The installation of combined (armored + lattice) screens provides increased protection against melee weapons.
        Protection against grenades like PG-9S in any course angles of fire (important!) with a probability of 0,6 for the BMP-2 and 0,5 for the BTR-80


        That is, not "into the side", not into the roof - namely, at the course angles of fire - in this case, there will be enough space between the grate and the armor for confident destabilization of the godfather. jets.
        And the last, no less important function, which we ALL forgot about:
        Based on the experience of the fighting of Soviet troops in Afghanistan, the installation of combined screens eliminated armor breaks hulls and turrets of the BMP and significantly reduced the size of the breaks in the armor of the armored personnel carrier when hit by cumulative grenades


        Research Institute of Steel indicates:
        for the BTR-80 equipped with combined screens, the probability of breaking armor when hit by RPG grenades is not more than 0,2
        Breaks in the BMP armor when hit by grenades are excluded.
        Agree, there is still a difference - a hole from the kuma, or a hole in the board from the high-explosive effect, with all the attendant ones - the flow of a shock wave, the formation of secondary fragments, etc.
        That's something like ... drinks
  5. Lesorub
    Lesorub 17 September 2020 12: 04
    +6
    Russian armored vehicles will receive additional protection

    While we do not have a KAZ for lightly armored vehicles, the installation of additional. booking is a positive point.
  6. moreman78
    moreman78 17 September 2020 12: 05
    +4
    Quote: neri73-r
    Quote: Stalllker
    Something I have doubts about this fence in a circle No. if only from stones and sticks

    This is the experience of the war in Syria, they do everything right, even if it only improves 50% or the probability is 50/50! If only for the sake of this, it was worth starting to participate in the Syrian conflict, otherwise it would later cost a lot of the lives of our servicemen and losses of armored vehicles in a possible conflict with the West.

    And what about the experience of Afgan and Chechnya - was it LITTLE? Was it necessary to run a rake in Syria?
    1. Torak
      Torak 17 September 2020 22: 34
      +1
      This is because there used to be science and smart people who, after a serious study of the issue, introduced innovations to the army, and not, like now, traitors. The topic of combined screens is a hundred years in the afternoon.
  7. Freedim
    Freedim 17 September 2020 12: 23
    +2
    Poor soldiers ... I can imagine how they will pick out any rotten stuff from these cracks after the field exercises.
    1. Shiden
      Shiden 17 September 2020 20: 49
      +2
      Why the poor people will not put such screens on exercises, I think. And in a combat situation, a useful thing, and it is convenient to carry protection and junk.
  8. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 17 September 2020 14: 07
    +1
    Ni slová o protivominoy zashchite dnisha.
  9. Recon
    Recon 17 September 2020 14: 23
    0
    the guys themselves collective farms on their own boards, in places not so remote, these super-modern lattice screens. And now there will be factory ones, progress laughing
  10. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 17 September 2020 22: 17
    0
    how boring, Afghanistan has not taught us anything, it seems, if such a clever article has just appeared ...
  11. Torak
    Torak 17 September 2020 22: 26
    +2
    I don't even know how to react to this innovation. The combined screen (and this is, after the grating, another intermediate armor plate, necessarily placed at a distance from the main armor), only a tank can protect 50%. And then on condition that the warheads are not of a tandem type, and now there are less and less such warheads. I declare because I was deeply interested in this topic earlier. The point in the combined screen was in the 80s, and then only for tanks. Light armor can protect from bullets, but you need to keep in mind that this crap is quite heavy and significantly reduces the maneuverability and speed of light armored vehicles, and they are very important for her! In addition, they significantly complicate the landing from the armor and slow it down at times, and this is often fatal for the landing. In short, it looks like a sabotage. What kind of experience in Syria can we talk about, if there each demon has no more than RPG-7, and every second of them is handicraft, which they make from tin. And we do not fight with them but with the Naglo-Saxons. Maybe against the game with self-made RPGs in Syria, this makes sense, but it certainly should not be introduced into the troops en masse. Trump who pushed this topic should be awarded the Order of the Hero of the USA.
    1. psiho117
      psiho117 18 September 2020 23: 10
      0
      Quote: Torak
      I don't even know how to react to this innovation.

      This is not new. The other day I read a report on the results of the database with the participation of armored vehicles in Afghanistan, 1991.
      The resistance of tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers to the effects of GHG has been increased due to the installation of lattice screens on the tank, solid steel screens on the hull and turret of the BMP and on the hull of the armored personnel carrier. Lattice screens are capable of destroying SG without the formation of a full-fledged cumulative jet with a probability of 0,6 - 0,8.
      Solid steel screens excluded breaks in the armor of the hull and turret of the BMP and significantly reduced the size of the breaks in the armor of the armored personnel carrier when hit by an APC. The use of steel screens excluded the penetration of the BMP armor by 12,7-mm armor-piercing bullets during normal firing from any range and armored personnel carriers when firing 7,62-mm armor-piercing bullets from a range of 300 m.

      Serial infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers without screens were penetrated by the indicated bullets from such ranges at heading angles of fire of 60 and 24 °, respectively.


      it works for strictly defined PG-7 and PG-9.
      In other cases - guaranteed reduction of the high-explosive effect, and probabilistic - destabilization of the cumulative. jets.
      The probability will vary greatly from case to case.
  12. Saxahorse
    Saxahorse 17 September 2020 23: 12
    0
    Before introducing such a thing, I would very much like to conduct a test by real shelling of these gratings. And to plant twenty missiles. And to see in how many cases these grids will really help. Recently, someone posted a Ukrainian video with such shooting. I don’t remember which article there were comments on. Also on the bars. Tried by hand, but the result is obvious .. Out of a dozen shots, only one grenade did not explode. All the rest have struck. In the end, they wrote that the grate was taken away like to modify.
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 19 September 2020 12: 58
      0
      Quote: Saxahorse
      Before introducing this, I would very much like to conduct a test by real shelling of these gratings.

      There is no need to braid 404-parts to factory kits from Steel, which were used in Afghanistan and Chechnya.
      1. Saxahorse
        Saxahorse 19 September 2020 22: 39
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        Quote: Blackgrifon
        There is no need to braid 404-parts to factory kits from Steel, which were used in Afghanistan and Chechnya.

        Both on! Are you a sales manager from this very "Steel"? Well, especially for managers, I remind you, first prove that it works and then ask for money !!!

        Judging by what we have seen and heard in practice, the effect of these gratings is just scanty! So prove that it makes sense to spend money, and most importantly create huge problems for the crew and especially the landing party with these grilles of yours ..

        What is in the picture in the article is very similar to primitive PR.
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 20 September 2020 12: 54
          0
          Don't be rude, boy :) And especially for non-managers I tell you: there is such a wonderful thing as the "Internet" and in it you can easily find information about the use of gratings, tests and even the opinions of people who have come across them. Good luck.
          1. Saxahorse
            Saxahorse 20 September 2020 19: 44
            0
            The "boys" are serving you in the pub. :) And since you are familiar with the magic word "Internet", try to use it. Then you won't give such ridiculous advice. There are questions to the bars and unpleasant questions.
            1. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon 20 September 2020 21: 26
              0
              Quote: Saxahorse
              The "boys" are serving you in the pub.

              Don't cry, boy :) Go teach materiel, student.
            2. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon 20 September 2020 22: 54
              0
              Well, if we have completed the exchange of pleasantries, then I propose to have a normal conversation.
              ZRE are not a panacea, but they give a chance (a good chance) and can be mounted on almost any equipment. As for the tests, that is, infa about this and there are examples when she defended the car. As for the transportation of troops ON armor, this is just the same far from being a plus of our equipment, and during artillery shelling, the presence of land mines on the sidelines leads to losses.
    2. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 21 September 2020 20: 36
      0
      lol but they will not show ... because they are under the bar ... but they were carried out
  13. Radikal
    Radikal 18 September 2020 18: 59
    +1
    Quote: Torak
    The fact of the matter is that there is little sense in the combined screens on the armored personnel carrier and infantry fighting vehicles, but maneuverability and speed are significantly reduced. This is for tanks in 50% of the combined screen manages to protect the crew. I got acquainted with the results of tests of both our and Czech research institutes 20 years ago. Therefore, no one was in a hurry to hang them on light armored vehicles. Campaign is some kind of sabotage.

    And then, how will "it", after all these "innovations", overcome water barriers - on ferries? winked
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 21 September 2020 20: 37
      0
      90% of modern combat operations do not require buoyancy
  14. Revival
    Revival 20 September 2020 02: 30
    0
    What kind of caliber 12,6?))
  15. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 21 September 2020 00: 52
    0
    Less than a few wars in Chechnya, Georgia, and only after Syria did they decide to protect the armored personnel carriers at least just with an anti-cumulative grille and additional armor.

    Sadness, but better late than never.