"All this is under the responsibility of prosecutors": in the ruling party of Poland - on the initiative to detain Smolensk dispatchers

Polish computer simulation of the situation with the Tu-154

Deputies, public figures and ordinary citizens of Poland comment on the request of the Investigative Commission of the National Prosecutor's Office of the country to issue a warrant for the detention of the Smolensk dispatchers who served the flight number 1 in 2010. Today, "Voennoye Obozreniye" in one of the morning materials reported this demand of the Polish investigation team, headed by the ex-Minister of Defense of Poland Antoni Matserevich. It was in the course of "his investigation" that it was stated that on the wreckage of the Tu-154 that had fallen near Smolensk, "traces of an explosive were found." Macerevich himself then announced that "the explosives could have been planted in Russia during the maintenance of the liner." Why, in this case, the board flew for several months without incident, Macerevich does not comment.

The deputy from the Polish party of power "Law and Justice" (deputy chairman of the ruling party) Radoslaw Vogel, commenting on the statements of the press service of the National Prosecutor's Office, says that for this (for the detention of Russian dispatchers) the investigation team must have good and convincing reasons.

Vogel on Polish Radio:

I do not know any details, but I can say that all this is under the responsibility of the prosecutors conducting the case. The conclusions of the investigation must be unambiguous if they make such a decision.

According to the deputy of the Diet, in such a situation, one should first turn to Russia for legal assistance.

Vogel:

But it’s hard to say for now whether the Russians will want to cooperate.

Here are some comments from readers of the Polish media.

Jest winny! (Poland):

The dark people from PiS (Law and Justice) will buy it. They need games.

Jedrekn (Poland):

What happened in Smolensk was organized by the president's brother. The former Minister of War was responsible for this, and the contractors were people under his control. The former minister even personally went to the crash site (of the plane) to see the effectiveness. He looked at it, dined, returned home. People from the GRU did not participate in this circus. I believe in this course of events.

analytyk (Germany)

Macerevich, explain how dispatchers from Smolensk airport planted a thermobaric bomb in Tu. This is a simple matter for him. Like a little beer before meals ...

Wasek B.

This is a circus from Antoni (Matserevich). It is already impossible to listen to it. 10 years later, no one believes in the possibility of establishing the truth.

It should be noted that an extremely small percentage of Poles support (in the comments to publications in the Polish media) the initiative to detain Smolensk dispatchers. Many Poles are frankly bewildered, and here are the airfield staff, who did everything to save the board, recommending that the pilots leave for an alternate airfield in the most difficult weather conditions.

Comments

[iouris]

War is war (all fair means) It’s time to go to war.

[Finches]

Well, what can you say ... Someone gets turned on by blondes, someone is turned on by brunettes ... and only Susanin turns on Poles!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Finches

Someone is turned on by blondes, someone is turned on by brunettes ... and only Susanin turns on Poles!

For almost 400 years, Poles have dreamed Ivan Susanin like a nightmare.

[krot]

The Poles need to at least decide for themselves who is to blame. It seems that not so long ago they found traces of explosives on the wreckage of the plane. Have the dispatcher planted explosives? )))

[Igor Lukashin]

A virtually hybrid explosive, and the passengers materialized it with hatred and Russophobia.

[Arthur73]

It is necessary to erect a monument to Ivan Susanin opposite the Polish embassy in Moscow! :)))

[Sly]

I understood whom Macerevich reminds me - Dzhigurda! And carries the same nonsense ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sly

I understood whom Macerevich reminds me - Dzhigurda!

Well, you are just like a clairvoyant!

[napalm]

Exactly. And it does not matter nonsense or nonsense. If only to proclaim all nonsense and there it will pass. Moreover, it has rolled out and will now.

[72jora72]

, and only Susanin turns on the Poles! laughing

As Susanin told the Poles ............. And then yourself! (C)

[lazaret]

Quote: Finches

Well, what can you say ... Someone gets turned on by blondes, someone is turned on by brunettes ... and only Susanin turns on Poles!

Russophobia turns them on in earnest, so they feed on it.

[iouris]

Quote: Finches

and only Susanin turns on the Poles!

Enough to remember Susanin in vain. If anyone does not understand, I am writing: Poland has declared war on you (us) for the complete destruction of you (us). Nobody dares to behave like this with a great power that has nuclear weapons. Pescoo! And Lavrov.

[Civil]

Smolensk birches - we will not give offense! By the way, it is necessary to bill the Poles for illegal logging by air. And also for the departure of firefighters with an ambulance. This idiotic game can be played together.

[SRC P-15]

Today, "Voennoye Obozreniye" in one of the morning materials reported this demand of the Polish investigation team, headed by the ex-Minister of Defense of Poland Antoni Matserevich.

That's who the Newbie is crying for!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

That's who the Newbie is crying for!

Nothing, Ivan Susanin will also find this figure, and will lead him where necessary.

[taiga2018]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

That's who the Newbie is crying for!

Only the real one, not the forty-degree one that Navalny poured into himself ...

[Simargl]

Quote: Civil

By the way, we need to bill the Poles for illegal logging by air

Right! Do you want cooperation? You are welcome!
- Raise the gas price + %% of the market.
- Make you pay for poaching (anyway, the squirrels suffered).
- Make you pay for the forest.
- Make firefighters pay to call.
- Charge with terrorism (using an airplane).

[your1970]

Quote: Simargl

- Charge with terrorism (using an airplane).

Well, in principle- LEGALLY-them may well be incriminated capture aircraft ... The dispatcher did not obey, dictated their will to the pilots - with the requirement to land not where the crew wanted to land for safety reasons - but where they needed ..

[Simargl]

Quote: your1970

LEGALLY-them may well be incriminated capture aircraft ...

The terrorist president? Is this like starting a war? Interesting ...

[your1970]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: your1970

LEGALLY-them may well be incriminated capture aircraft ...

The terrorist president? Is this like starting a war? Interesting ...

Laughter laughter - and the actions are quite identical to themselves on 9.11 ...
And if you remember Martsinkevich with his "Bonba" - quite a standard scheme: the terrorists hijacked the plane, did not fulfill the dispatchers' requirements, spat on the crew and, threatening with an explosion, demanded that the pilots land the plane where they needed ...
Maybe they have a counter-claim to roll out, that the security services of Poland allowed obvious terrorists on board? There, half of the obvious psychos and fanatics were at least ...
You never know, maybe they were treasured in Smolensk ..

[Simargl]

Quote: your1970

Laughing with laughter

What laugh? There you can turn it so that the logs are not elbows - they will bite the back of the head.

[Severok]

You do not know why I am sorry that the Tu-154 does not in any way resemble the An 225 Mriya in terms of passenger capacity ???
Let me explain that if all the elites of the Russophobic policy of the Commonwealth and a few European deputies were on that board, then the degree of Russophobia in Europe would be an order of magnitude less ...
And in fact, all the attacks on Russia from the politicians of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth are explained by simple bazaar boorishness towards a neighbor, a tradeswoman, who took the buyer away from under her nose. Selfish interests.

[rocket757]

No, the disease is incurable. There is nothing more to add.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

No, the disease is incurable.

This is a congenital disease and is only inherited.

[Reptiloid]

These impudent instructions, of course, are made by order of the overseas. And look what happens - the continuity of accusations against Russia in any way. Not one thing, so another.

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

overseas orders are made.

Yes, they themselves are much ready to do various nasty things ... although, a coordinated swoop, of course, can be more effective.

[Reptiloid]

The yapping of different mosques continues continuously, order. ... then Tikhanovskaya began to address, ((who is she and who is Putin, did they drink her or something?)) then these, .....

[rocket757]

Come on, a woman reads something sho her on a prompter slip ... there is no need to look for a lumpy mental process.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

........ there is no need to look for a lumpy mental process.

there is an inhibited speech process, but there is no thought at all

[rocket757]

Fig on her, there is nothing and no one shines.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

No, the disease is incurable. There is nothing more to add.

This is true, but they are progressing ... Greetings!

[rocket757]

Welcome
The crisis however. not everything is as "sugar" as they want!
It's time to exacerbate anything chronic!
Yes, here they also got a chip on their Wishlist, in general there will be an aggravation in the cube!

[cniza]

More and more often I come to the idea that the world is moving with leaps and bounds to a big war, the West's memory has sunk somewhere ...

[rocket757]

Violent maneuvers, only virtual ones are carried out .... see the trembling in the knees passed, after checking our superbomb .... forgotten, or rather, the generation of unafraid go and and special, greyhounds have grown up to power, to power, to new finds / concerns for their , yes, and tsuzu fifth point!

[cniza]

Too many problems have accumulated and people have always solved them through war, how will it be now?

[rocket757]

The war, now, may be ... final. The state has accumulated so much of all kinds of lethal filth, passion!

[cniza]

We must look for a way out of the crisis not through war, and it will have to look for it even for those who do not want it or for humanity to end.

[rocket757]

We need responsible leaders !!! Where to get them?

[cniza]

That's just the point, the politicians have been so crumbling that there is no one to even hope for.

[rocket757]

There is a double-edged sword, this is FEAR!
On the one hand, if they know, they are afraid, they are not subject. On the other hand, a convenient excuse to negotiate your population!

[cniza]

And God forbid there is a panic or provocation in those in power, they will break firewood from the heart ...

[rocket757]

GUGLYA again rechecked the words! I myself do not understand what I wanted to write.
FEAR is a strong brake, but it can also become a strong stimulant, provocateur.

[cniza]

But the new generation does not know fear at all and soon they will be in power ...

[rocket757]

In computer shooters, you can do a lot of things that never happen in life!
Smart people learn from other people's experience, fools do not learn at all.

[cniza]

That's just the point, the virtual world has taken away reality and fear from them.

[rotmistr60]

Even the Poles are already tired of this dance. Exhumations, examinations, "traces of explosives", Macerevich, foaming at the mouth, shouting about the wine of Russia, etc., etc. got the Poles to the liver.

it is still difficult to say whether the Russians will want to cooperate.

The Russian side at the right time and in the right order cooperated with the Polish side to investigate the disaster. Today, to react to any requests from the Polish prosecutor's office, and even more so to detain dispatchers, is not to respect oneself.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

Even the Poles are already tired of this dance. Exhumations, examinations, "traces of explosives", Macerevich, foaming at the mouth, shouting about the wine of Russia, etc., etc. got the Poles to the liver.

Yes, he was tired of it himself, but the owners are demanding.

[Tavi]

in such a situation, you should first apply to Russia for legal assistance.

here you need to contact psychiatrists ...

[22 dmdc]

Quote: rocket757

No, the disease is incurable

Lead also cures these diseases - the hunchback grave will fix it.

[aszzz888]

Polish computer simulation of the situation with the Tu-154

I will simulate a computer like this ... that he was shot down by the Martians, and then piled on the moon.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aszzz888

I will simulate a computer like this

And without a computer, Uncle Sam's nephews will say that this is the case of Petrov and Bashirov.

[zwlad]

Aren't the Poles lousy? Isn't it time to invite their ambassador to the carpet?

[Laksamana besar]

This is unrealistic, the Constitution of the Russian Federation forbids extraditing its citizens to foreign states.

[Vladimir Demyanov]

I am watching the American TV series Law & Order on the occasion of the quarantine. There, in my opinion, the work of American justice is shown well. Even children are imprisoned for real terms, unless a lawyer can help it. But to arrest someone? Even if he is an obvious criminal, it is not so easy there. And here it is simply at the request of the client ... What is this law in Poland? So let them first follow the order - present weighty charges and follow the procedure. If you have something to show, our prosecutor will agree, fly in (we don't give out our own - we have such a law), and in the presence of our lawyer you can ask, and the lawyer will also say that you can not answer.

[KVU-NSVD]

Right now, Russia is being hounded from all sides. The Poles really want, so to speak, to let their dog into this pack. But there was nothing smarter to see, except for the Smolensk birches and the repeatedly dug Kaczynski.

[DIM (a)]

Apparently they believe that every resident of Russia is necessarily an employee of the Special. Organs, a sleeping agent who, even as a janitor, can poison or blow up someone at any time ...

[Vladimir Demyanov]

In-in. Just let them think so and not go where they should not. They were already allowed to create a temple of hatred for the Pole in bad times. Do not go where you do not need, climb - so you need it! I understand Janusz Pshimanovsky, who asked to take care of the graves of the Poles who died, as they said then "for our and your freedom." But this is not a gate. Especially after the demolition of the monuments to Seryozha s Malaya Bronnaya and Vitki s Mokhovaya.

[Lord of the Sith]

Will Kaczynski be exhumed this time?

[HAM]

Not probably already clone ....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

in fact everyone on the plane was poisoned by a newbie
remember the fog ?!
voooot !!!
it was navichёk

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

in fact everyone on the plane was poisoned by a newbie

They were all drunk on the plane. We need to arrest those who sold them booze.

[ZVS]

Once again I am convinced that the Poles are a degrading nation. Only a complete person can blame the controllers who persuaded the crew to leave for an alternate airfield. All this drunken Polish riffraff who sat on the plane and are the culprits of their own death.

[Volodin]

Quote: SU

Once again I am convinced that the Poles are a degrading nation.

Judging by the comments of ordinary Poles, the majority just adequately look at the situation. But they themselves doubt the adequacy of the commission of Mr. Macerevich, as we do.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Volodin

Judging by the comments of ordinary Poles, the majority just adequately look at the situation.

Your words are confirmed by a phrase in the article

It is worth noting that an EXTREMELY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF POLES support (in the comments to publications in the Polish media) the initiative to detain Smolensk dispatchers.

[cniza]

Quote: Volodin

But they themselves doubt the adequacy of the commission of Mr. Macerevich, as we do.

There, in Polish politics, there is not one such Macerevich, but the people, yes, he adequately assesses ...

[g1washntwn]

"Traces of a thermobaric explosion" are the ignited vapors of alcohol from the one who shouted to the pilots "Sit down immediately, otherwise I'll fire!"

[vladimirvn]

Our elite has signed under the motto, "Russia is Europe". Now every European trash, in the form of politicians, officials, lawyers and financiers, is bending us down. They don't even need an army to force us to fulfill their demands.

[cniza]

Quote: vladimirvn

They don't even need an army to force us to fulfill their demands.

And what do we fulfill from their requirements?

[vladimirvn]

Quote: cniza

And what do we fulfill from their requirements?

1.Sanctions are introduced whatever they want, for any far-fetched reason.
2. Property and assets are seized, accounts are blocked
3. Bans impose on the sale of technology and equipment
And in general, to allow this Caudle to talk to him like that, to disrespect himself. Where is the response?

[cniza]

Is there only war left? But we ignore them, but it's unpleasant ...

[your1970]

Quote: vladimirvn

3. Bans impose on the sale of technology and equipment

Quote: vladimirvn

to allow this Caudle to talk to itself like that, to disrespect. D
De response actions?

И than The USSR responded to the sanctions of Jackson-Broom ???? !!!
Than?!!!

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: vladimirvn

Our elite has signed under the motto, "Russia is Europe". Now every European trash, in the form of politicians, officials, lawyers and financiers, is bending us down. They don't even need an army to force us to fulfill their demands.

Well, where was Russia bent over? In Venezuela, Syria, Belarus or the Japanese in the Far East?

[vladimirvn]

Quote: Vladimir_6

Well, where was Russia bent over? In Venezuela, Syria, Belarus or the Japanese in the Far East?

Exactly. At the same time, tell me, what is the benefit for an ordinary citizen of the Russian Federation from the fact that we are in Venezuela and Syria? What are the budget receipts?

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: vladimirvn

Exactly. At the same time, tell me, what is the benefit for an ordinary citizen of the Russian Federation from the fact that we are in Venezuela and Syria? What are the budget receipts?

I replied to you that Russia "is being bent over by any European trash."
The benefits of Russia's stay in Venezuela and Syria is a completely different topic.

[your1970]

Quote: vladimirvn

Quote: Vladimir_6

Well, where was Russia bent over? In Venezuela, Syria, Belarus or the Japanese in the Far East?

Exactly. At the same time, tell me, what is the benefit for an ordinary citizen of the Russian Federation from the fact that we are in Venezuela and Syria? What are the budget receipts?

If you proceed from Your ideas with admission to the budget - our army is absolutely useless - it does not give money to the budget, but only spends, spends, spends ...

And Gazprom (through export duties) brought to the budget about 40% of the entire budget of the Russian Federation.
According to vashe- pensioners receiving pensions from this money-should praise Gazprom ??

[cniza]

Many Poles are frankly bewildered, and here are the airfield staff, who did everything to save the board, recommending that the pilots leave for an alternate airfield in the most difficult weather conditions.

All the same, Polish politicians do not want to have their own state, they will be interrogated.

[rocket757]

And can they live ANYTHING under the striped protectorate?

[cniza]

The impression is that they are ready for anything, just to spoil Russia.

[rocket757]

So they have, they have something to sharpen their fangs ... because, for a long time we have not broken them off! Well these are such shortcomings, eternal, .... in short, not a finalization of our ancestors either.

[cniza]

The third time there will be no error ...

[rocket757]

With the third time, everything is very difficult !!! there is no desire to find out where everything may come ... it may turn out to be the final point in the general human history.

[cniza]

Yes, some hotheads do not mind, but some countries may lose their statehood for the third time.

[opuonmed]

even poland doesn’t voshto the Russian Federation doesn’t put a mumble in our government, what will they do *?

[iouris]

Is this our government?

[Karabin]

Quote: opuonmed

what will they do *?

Give orders to each other.
Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded the Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev with the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, III degree. The decree was signed on September 14, on this day, Mr. Medvedev turned 55 years old.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Karabin

The decree was signed on September 14, on this day, Mr. Medvedev turned 55 years old.

After this award, Medvedev became a knight of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, three degrees.
Continue on LADIES, maybe the 4th degree of the order will come up for you.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: opuonmed

even poland doesn’t voshto the Russian Federation doesn’t put a mumble in our government, what will they do *?

In your language,

USA well done what they want and do the main thing so that everything is good inside the country and the rest of the world does not give a shit

Russia nacrat the opinion of Poland. What will your mumbles do in London? We are not interested in this.

[LINKor55]

Donut hole. and not citizens of Russia! It's time to hit on the hands, a note of protest weighing a ton against the Polish ambassador, and demand proof from them and extradite those responsible for the crash of their plane on our territory with compensation for damage.
To demolish the monument in Katyn (as they are our monuments), these Polish soldiers did not accomplish anything worthy of the monument, they were shot by the Nazis, the USSR substantiated this issue long ago, and there were no inclinations before Humpback.
We must ask them for concentration camps for Soviet soldiers, for riots and aggression in 1920.

[senima56]

"Macerevich himself then announced that" the explosives could have been planted in Russia during the maintenance of the liner "" Marasmus grew stronger ...

[Vladimir Demyanov]

"Could" does not mean "planted". Can the clever man prove it, show it, give it a try? And for false information and contempt of the court, does he want 15 years for felling? Previously, people were called to a duel for such things. It was possible to answer for the arrogance of the nobleman, but now the priesthood of ambition has divorced, it has lost its fear.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Tell me the address of the Polish prosecutor's office, I will send them 1 cube of birch logs.

[Kushka]

Desirable from those birches that are depicted
under reconstruction - what "birches", such and
reconstruction. A penny price on a market day
(it seems they have so much money).

[Vitas]

Best reconstruction

[Evil 55]

The hyena imagines herself an American GAD chicken ...

[Fitter]

Let's go psheks to the dupa.

[lvov_aleksey]

war is boring and uninteresting, who was he knows ...
ps I understand that this is a matter of finance, but living people on these scales, I cannot understand ...

[iouris]

We then go to the West with an open mind - one leg, money, real estate, children, lovers and ex-wives - almost everything is already there. The war has been waged with the rest for a long time. But they should not be the first to enter the armed phase. Previously, it was necessary to change the policy. By the way, war can change the trend.

[ermak124.0]

Only a goner dEbil can blame the flight management team for the death of the crew and stupid passengers. And the crew, especially the navigator, did everything to taste the earth with their mouths. Rarely do catastrophes so intelligible in their obviousness happen. I understand the gentlemen, it is insulting to know that their deceased president with his Caudla are stubborn and incurable psychos. But this is a fact and they have to live with it. Chose a suicidal moron .. Ahaha !!! )))