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The Ministry of Defense proposes to allow warning bombing on ships violating the state border

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The Ministry of Defense proposes to allow warning bombing on ships violating the state border

The Ministry of Defense proposes to amend the law "On the State Border of the Russian Federation" by allowing military aviation carry out bombardment along the course of vessels violating the state border to warn of the intention to use weapon to defeat. The document has been published on the portal of draft regulations.


This amendment to the law should indicate that before the use of weapons to kill on ships that violated the state border, not only a clear warning and warning shots, but also warning bombing should precede.

The third paragraph of Article 35, after the words "warning shots", shall be supplemented (...) as well as warning bombing of aerial bombs ahead of the course of a sea (river) vessel - violating the state border

- says the amendment.

According to the law "On the State Border of the Russian Federation", the border agencies of the FSB and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have the right to use weapons and military equipment to repel an armed invasion of the territory of the Russian Federation. If the amendment is adopted, the Russian military will have the right to inflict warning strikes with aviation bombs.

Recall that the last major incident with the invasion of Russian territory occurred in November 2018 in the Kerch Strait, when two Ukrainian combat boats and a tug staged a provocation while trying to break into the Sea of ​​Azov. As a result, the crews of the boats and the tug were detained, and the boats and the tug were sent to Kerch.
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  1. The popuas
    The popuas 17 September 2020 10: 03
    -15 qualifying.
    Chase the wide-eyed ... we must ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 17 September 2020 10: 52
      -31 qualifying.
      Topmast bombing on fishing vessels do not want to legalize? Why such bloodthirstiness.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 10: 58
        15
        A long time ago. For example, in 2001, the STR Albatross-101 was sunk by the frontier An-72P NARs ... Planes used warning fire repeatedly with guns and NAR
        I did not understand why these movements.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 17 September 2020 12: 33
          +5
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          For example, in 2001, the STR Albatross-101 was sunk by the border An-72P NARs ...

          There was even a photo of this shelling in the Aviation and Time magazine.
        2. Fitter65
          Fitter65 17 September 2020 13: 21
          +4
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          Planes used warning fire repeatedly with cannons and NAR

          And not only helicopter planes and ships have repeatedly used weapons in our territorial waters against violators, both in the Sea of ​​Japan and the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 17 September 2020 11: 11
        +9
        Not in the courts, but in front of them. This tactic has been used since the days of the sailing fleet, when a warning shot was fired to stop the vessel along the course of the vessel in front of its bow.
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 17 September 2020 11: 38
          -1
          Quote: Piramidon
          Not in the courts, but in front of them. This tactic has been used since the days of the sailing fleet, when a warning shot was fired to stop the vessel along the course of the vessel in front of its bow.

          And who will carry out the bombing? The border guards do not have such planes, and according to the law on the SG, only they should carry out such actions. And in Kamchatka, for example, there is no SU-24 either.
          In my opinion, everyone should mind their own business. Border guards chase violators, the army repel armed attacks.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 17 September 2020 12: 04
            +7
            Quote: Marconi41
            Border guards do not have such planes

            Border guards and air defense do not have, then there is no one to land the violating planes?
            1. WILL
              WILL 17 September 2020 13: 06
              +7
              The Borders have a Connection! And who to land who - also exists!
              In my opinion - the right decision.
              Quote: Piramidon
              Quote: Marconi41
              Border guards do not have such planes

              Border guards and air defense do not have, then there is no one to land the violating planes?
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 17 September 2020 14: 01
                +1
                Quote: ANIMAL
                The Borders have a Connection!

                I know that very well. You tell this to "Marconi" to whom I answered.
              2. Marconi41
                Marconi41 17 September 2020 16: 21
                -5
                Quote: ANIMAL
                The Borders have a Connection! And who to land who - also exists!
                In my opinion - the right decision.

                What for? They have their own aircraft armed with cannons and NARs, they have their own ships. Why bombs then? Against who?
            2. Marconi41
              Marconi41 17 September 2020 16: 11
              +4
              Quote: Piramidon
              Quote: Marconi41
              Border guards do not have such planes

              Border guards and air defense do not have, then there is no one to land the violating planes?

              The border guards do not deal with the sky or underwater affairs. It is the air defense forces that step in to guard the GG in the sky.
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 17 September 2020 13: 08
            +5
            Quote: Marconi41
            Border guards don't have such planes,

            An-72P can use bombs and NAR. Even An-26 can bomb.
            Plus, bombs can be carried by helicopters.
          3. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 13: 29
            +2
            Quote: Marconi41
            Border guards don't have such planes,


            An-72P

            Gun GSH-23

            2 blocks NAR
            1. Marconi41
              Marconi41 17 September 2020 16: 13
              -2
              Green NARs were used earlier, but here we are talking about bombing.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 16: 14
                0
                Precautionary bombing along the course with us seems to have been as soon as the watchdog was, during the Sablin mutiny.
                1. Marconi41
                  Marconi41 17 September 2020 16: 17
                  -3
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Precautionary bombing along the course with us seems to have been as soon as the watchdog was, during the Sablin mutiny.

                  I doubt that the border guards were doing this. They then, just, generally refused to use weapons on the "Sentinel".
                  1. Cyril G ...
                    Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 17: 58
                    +1
                    The Air Force did not work there. But I haven't really heard of bombing. NARs, yes.
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 17 September 2020 18: 10
                      +1
                      Aviation and time wrote about firing from GSh-6-20 at the ship.
                      1. Cyril G ...
                        Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 18: 24
                        +2
                        Traces of welded damage on the Sentry's stern were visible in 2003 winked
      3. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 20 September 2020 10: 53
        0
        And what does topmast bombing do not suit you, huh? Diving is better, or maybe with a logarithmic curve? I suggest from "Polbinskaya turntable"! Or did you like the name you accidentally heard - so they slapped it like it sounds cool, comrade "expert" ?!
    2. Bykov.
      Bykov. 17 September 2020 12: 04
      +2
      Quote: Popuas
      Chase the wide-eyed ... we must ...

      Rather, in the Arctic for the "civilized" and their henchmen. Otherwise they will climb up the NSR without our permission.
    3. Fitter65
      Fitter65 17 September 2020 13: 18
      +3
      Quote: Popuas
      Chase the wide-eyed ... we must ...

      Literate Russians write atзkoglazye - from the phrase narrow eyes. This time. Secondly, your comment is drawn to incite racial hatred, based on a different eye shape.
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 20 September 2020 13: 18
        0
        Race discord laughing ? literate Russians write, interethnic strife ... adios ... fool
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    5. Protos
      Protos 18 September 2020 01: 52
      0
      Quote: Popuas
      Chase the wide-eyed ... we must ...

      And that you have a lot of narrow-eyed people in Ukraine ?! laughing
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 20 September 2020 13: 20
        0
        I don't know how in Ukraine, in our southern Urals, compared to the 90s ... there are fewer, but more citizens from the CIS ...
    6. Baloo
      Baloo 19 September 2020 15: 02
      0
      Quote: Popuas
      The Ministry of Defense proposes to allow warning bombing on ships violating the state border

      Quote: Popuas
      Chase the wide-eyed ... we must ...

      Allow, throw. Tired of adversaries, they also litter, they do not clean up after themselves. The oceans are full of abandoned nets and plastic. Even in the blood of penguins in Antarctica, they found plastic!
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 17 September 2020 10: 04
    +5
    This amendment to the law should indicate that before the use of weapons to kill on ships that violated the state border, not only a clear warning and warning shots, but also warning bombing should precede.
    Salted steeply. Although many will sober up. But ukrov never, have not found brains in amoebas yet.
    Recall that the last major incident with the invasion of Russian territory occurred in November 2018 in the Kerch Strait, when two Ukrainian combat boats and a tug staged a provocation while trying to break into the Sea of ​​Azov.

    Do they offer not to take prisoners in the Ministry of Defense?
    As a result, the crews of the boats and the tug were detained, and the boats and the tug were sent to Kerch.
    1. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 17 September 2020 11: 20
      +1
      It is not sustainable. Zas rut ​​all sea violators are unexpected
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 17 September 2020 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Do they offer not to take prisoners in the Ministry of Defense?
      How many of those prisoners were on the boats? And an aircraft carrier is easier to flood - it is expensive to feed. Capitalism.
  3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 17 September 2020 10: 05
    11
    Well, that's a logical addition ...
    1. ancient
      ancient 17 September 2020 10: 21
      +5
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Well, that's a logical addition ..

      Andrew, drinks ! Well .. then they would have immediately allowed the top-mast b / m laughing .... what is trifling wink (black humor, for those who do not understand) drinks
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 17 September 2020 10: 23
        +5
        Good day, dear Ancient! hi drinks
        Quote: ancient
        Well .. then they would have immediately allowed the top-mast b / m

        So it is allowed! But - only after a warning laughing
        1. ancient
          ancient 17 September 2020 10: 28
          +3
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          So it is allowed!


          The scan came from a comment that did not go through .. it takes a long time to rewrite .. that the computer .. "hangs" crying
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 17 September 2020 10: 34
            +3
            but also warning bombing.
            Now, if on a ship .., then it is very difficult to get there, but with a warning ... well, sometimes it happens. In the first case, the probable deviation is to blame, in the second, too wink
            1. Jager
              Jager 17 September 2020 11: 16
              +1
              "She drowned" © soldier
            2. ancient
              ancient 17 September 2020 13: 29
              +2
              Quote: NIKNN
              it's hard to get there

              That's right, because. it is necessary to know and enter the direction of movement of the ship (its course) and speed, but the direction of the ship does not change, then the SRU (depending on the type of aircraft) itself will calculate the lead and the calculated longitudinal ratio)
              In this case, the probability of hitting is high, but the width of the ship must also be taken into account, because. the amount of lateral deflection depends very much on the accuracy of the sight alignment, the accuracy of the initial alignment and reckoning of the IS, the last place of correction, the accuracy of operation and the output of data on the speed and direction from the wind from the DISS ... and so on. drinks
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 17 September 2020 10: 41
          +5
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Good day, dear Ancient! hi drinks
          Quote: ancient
          Well .. then they would have immediately allowed the top-mast b / m

          So it is allowed! But - only after a warning laughing

          I'm not a very big expert in bombing, but my amateurish opinion is this - to drop two bombs - warning and, what is it? - top mast. Send a trough with the whole crew to feed the herring. And then let the experts figure out which of the bombs was dropped first ...
          1. not main
            not main 17 September 2020 22: 15
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Good day, dear Ancient! hi drinks
            Quote: ancient
            Well .. then they would have immediately allowed the top-mast b / m

            So it is allowed! But - only after a warning laughing

            I'm not a very big expert in bombing, but my amateurish opinion is this - to drop two bombs - warning and, what is it? - top mast. Send a trough with the whole crew to feed the herring. And then let the experts figure out which of the bombs was dropped first ...

            And you say "not a very great specialist", but military secrets still do not need to be declassified. laughing
    2. dauria
      dauria 17 September 2020 10: 33
      +1
      Well, that's a logical addition ...

      No logic whatsoever. Well, maybe the option "the gun is jammed", but they don't understand the words. Then what, a "warning" nuclear strike on the course? A bomb can be dropped into the water along the course without any "additional" laws. And then let them think - by chance, or on purpose passed by. And at the same time, the crews will be freed from unnecessary work and responsibility - "to bomb, but not to hit."
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 17 September 2020 10: 45
        0
        must precede not only clear warning and warning shots, but also warning bombing

        the wording in the article is somehow strange. The word "must" and the union "and" somehow limit rather than provide new opportunities.
        1. dauria
          dauria 17 September 2020 10: 55
          +1
          The word "must" and the union "and" somehow rather limit than give new opportunities

          That's the trouble - they blame everything on the crew. Fly through, shoot, bomb out, but don't get hit. The sentry has more rights. He even shot him without warning, and one could say, "It seemed that he was attacking, there was no time."
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 10: 59
          +2
          We need the primary source ... In reality, and so NAR and cannons shoot.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 17 September 2020 11: 24
            0
            By the way, I wanted to clarify, but the shooting of the NAR or even the use of the UR does not accidentally refer to the same bombing? Does bombing mean any use of non-cannon weapons from an airplane / helicopter?
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 11: 29
              +1
              Quote: alexmach
              and the shooting of the NAR or even the use of missile launchers is it not by chance that all of the same bombing? Does bombing mean any use of non-cannon weapons from an airplane / helicopter?


              I can't say here. An-72P regularly fired NARs, and dropped practical P-50s, I haven't heard about cannon firing for a long time ...
            2. common man
              common man 17 September 2020 11: 51
              0
              Quote: alexmach
              and the shooting of the NAR or even the use of missile launchers is it not by chance that all of the same bombing?

              The same thought came up.
              And further. Probably, warning bombing should show the offender that he can not only be fired at from a machine gun or a cannon with a caliber of 30 mm, but also use a more "furious" weapon.
              For example, try to stop an intruder with a displacement of, say, 10 thousand tons, going to the Crimean bridge using a 30 mm cannon. And in order to use bombs or missiles, you must first warn about the "caliber".
              1. ancient
                ancient 17 September 2020 13: 40
                +1
                Quote: man in the street
                For example, try to stop an intruder ship with a displacement of, say, 10 thousand tons,

                In the first approach, a volley on the captain's bridge, the second salvo on the stern (in the steering area), and the third on all residential superstructures - this time.
                Secondly, if the violator is already 10 thousand and .. obvious ... then until he reaches from neutral waters to the Crimean bridge all his intentions will already be clear and then the MBRK will calmly "do" its .. "business" wink
            3. bober1982
              bober1982 17 September 2020 13: 19
              +2
              Quote: alexmach
              By the way, I wanted to clarify, but the shooting of the NAR or even the use of the UR does not accidentally relate to the same bombing?

              No, it does not apply to bombing, and cannot be.
            4. ancient
              ancient 17 September 2020 13: 35
              +2
              Quote: alexmach
              and the shooting of the NAR or even the use of missile launchers is it not by chance that all of the same bombing?

              No, it does not apply ... ballistics is completely different, as a result of which the methods of using ASP wink
        3. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 17 September 2020 12: 35
          10
          Quote: alexmach
          The word "must" and the union "and" somehow limit rather than provide new opportunities.

          Why are they immediately limited? Imagine a report from a pilot aimed at suppressing violations of the state border of the Russian Federation:
          "... after a series of warning shots, the intruder increased its speed, while its crew stood on the deck and made insulting gestures towards the Russian State Border guard, that is, me. After the warning bombing, the intruder disappeared together with the crew. My attempts to detect it by radar means were unsuccessful. Visually observed a large oil slick on the water surface, the origin of which I cannot explain ... " laughing
          1. ancient
            ancient 17 September 2020 13: 41
            +1
            Quote: Polite Elk
            After the warning bombing, the intruder escaped with the crew. My attempts to locate it by radar were unsuccessful. Visually observed a large oil spot on the water surface, the origin of which I cannot explain ... "

            good drinks laughing
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 17 September 2020 13: 42
              0
              Greetings! drinks
    3. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 17 September 2020 11: 04
      +1
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Well, that's a logical addition ...

      In my opinion, not really. With this logic, the air defense personnel need to launch the first missile in front of the intruder's plane, like "we warn you, the next shot will be at the plane."
    4. Jager
      Jager 17 September 2020 11: 17
      0
      To surely exclude border violations, it is necessary to allow the preventive use of TNW at the rate))
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 17 September 2020 10: 09
    +8
    What's the point? Is there not enough warning queue across the course? Although psychologically, the effect will of course be stronger from the bangs right along the course .. and from an airplane from a high altitude, a bomb is certainly more convenient. But the risk of drowning with a possible hit from a bomb or rocket is greater than from a queue from a cannon or machine gun with all the ensuing information and international consequences.
    1. Dizel200
      Dizel200 17 September 2020 10: 18
      +4
      Well sorry laughing accidentally hit laughing you shouldn't have been there belay
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 17 September 2020 10: 21
      -6
      I agree. Here in Alabino they smeared URami, and with a bomb ... According to the dastardly law, a sandwich will surely fall into some kind of trough and an international scandal with all the consequences is ready.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 17 September 2020 11: 27
        0
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Here in Alabino they smeared URami, and with a bomb ...

        In order not to accidentally hit the violator's boat, the warning bomb must be adjusted, such as KAB-1500LG-F. She has a hitting accuracy of up to 4 meters. I think if one in front of the boat falls, it will be very scary.
        1. ancient
          ancient 17 September 2020 13: 43
          +2
          Quote: Bad_gr
          She has a hitting accuracy of up to 4 meters.

          So yes .... only if the "boat" is not mobile, well, or in the presence of a good PRK or PNS goes with a constant course and speed wink
          And so ... in vain "spoil" a good bomb lol
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 17 September 2020 12: 05
        0
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        According to the dastardly law, sandwiches will definitely fall into some kind of trough and an international scandal with all the consequences is ready.
        Well, we need special ammunition. Concrete, for example.
        Eco-friendly in one.
    3. frruc
      frruc 17 September 2020 10: 24
      +1
      And if you try with the use of fecal feeding containers. True, it will have to be used at ultra-low altitudes with guaranteed defeat, so that the water area does not suffer.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 17 September 2020 10: 30
        +4
        Quote: frruc
        And if you try with the use of fecal feeding containers.

        A very humane option. But we will have to develop a system for the targeted emptying of fecal tanks, following the example of suspended helicopter tanks for fire extinguishing. I'm kidding of course .. but there is a grain in such an idea ..
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 17 September 2020 11: 13
          +3
          with all due respect to Andrey from Chelyaba and the Ancient ... but a salvo from GSh-6-23M - not enough? and if not enough, then it’s more delicious to add ... bombing for what?
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 17 September 2020 11: 29
            +2
            Quote: Dead Day
            and a salvo from GSh-6-23M - not enough?

            I honestly don't know. With the excitement of 3-4 points, I admit that it will not be clearly visible (more precisely, they will say that they have not seen), but not to see the bomb ...
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather 17 September 2020 11: 34
              +2
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Quote: Dead Day
              and a salvo from GSh-6-23M - not enough?

              I honestly don't know. With the excitement of 3-4 points, I admit that it will not be clearly visible (more precisely, they will say that they have not seen), but not to see the bomb ...

              this with wind and excitement, maybe the last thing they see ... as if, not a "warning" will come out.
            2. ancient
              ancient 17 September 2020 14: 00
              +2
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              With excitement 3-4 points, I admit that it will not be clearly visible (more precisely, they will say that they have not seen),

              Andrei will see and ... hear ... and GSh 6-30 in general ... "sounds" good
          2. ancient
            ancient 17 September 2020 13: 47
            +1
            Quote: Dead Day
            and if not enough, then it’s more delicious to add ... bombing for what?

            So I'm for sho ..? laughing
            Statements with the aim of .. "to catch up with fear", but simply .. to warn for .. "future".
            The Yankes also prohibit dropping refrigerators and a giraffe with hippos from a height of 3000 meters (and it turns out from an echelon already 3300 and above it is quite possible) .. but there is a law .. "giza" .. so they do not drop from any heights wassat drinks
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather 17 September 2020 13: 49
              +1
              Quote: ancient
              So I'm for sho ..?

              yes in you "Ancient", I never doubted ... "old school" as they say "partners. you are in the subject. drinks
            2. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 17 September 2020 13: 55
              +1
              [quote = ancient] Sergey, I'm glad you're in a "cage," how are you? forgive that in plain text. no time. drinks
      2. Jager
        Jager 17 September 2020 11: 20
        +1
        Not shit poured over mom, but "fecal bombing"))))
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 17 September 2020 11: 21
        -1
        Quote: frruc
        And if you try with the use of fecal feeding containers.

        Will the weapons technicians fill the tanks with shit before the flight? lol
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 17 September 2020 11: 42
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: frruc
          And if you try with the use of fecal feeding containers.

          Will the weapons technicians fill the tanks with shit before the flight? lol

          conscripts destiny ... like "demobilization chord" ...
  5. steelmaker
    steelmaker 17 September 2020 10: 09
    +5
    Why warning? Once there was a verbal warning, then immediately to defeat! Violators know what they are violating. Once used to defeat, the other time they will be afraid. And they will shy away from the oral!
    1. Kart
      Kart 17 September 2020 10: 19
      +2
      Well, nobody canceled the inaccuracy. We wanted it to be helpful, or it might turn out to be real.
      And then you can, like Americans, apologize and throw up your hands.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 17 September 2020 10: 49
      0
      Once there was a verbal warning, then immediately to defeat! Violators know what they are violating

      The offender may not have a working means of communication, or not understand the language in which he was warned. And he still may not know what he is violating. There is nothing to pump up. Immediately to defeat in peacetime is not at all adequate behavior.
      1. Kart
        Kart 18 September 2020 09: 21
        -1
        Now, in the XNUMXst century, when any plane is packed full of electronics and navigation and communication means - does the pilot suddenly not know what he is violating, hears no one, and does not understand the language?
        Stop making me laugh.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 18 September 2020 09: 57
          -1
          the pilot suddenly does not know what he is violating

          Pilot? What other pilot? Are you sure you read the article you are commenting on?
  6. Eldorado
    Eldorado 17 September 2020 10: 10
    +3
    Long overdue!
  7. Tank hard
    Tank hard 17 September 2020 10: 12
    +3
    It would be nice.
  8. Wedmak
    Wedmak 17 September 2020 10: 18
    +2
    Prepare in advance for the provocations of large ships?
    1. Jager
      Jager 17 September 2020 11: 21
      0
      Accidentally lost American aircraft carrier in the Black Sea
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 September 2020 10: 25
    +1
    All to be honest - violated receive! And it doesn't matter in what priority gentleman's set - a machine gun, a cannon, a bomb. bully
  10. Errr
    Errr 17 September 2020 10: 30
    +1
    And even with the Be-200, you can douse it, like: "Feel, the shaft!" laughing
  11. zwlad
    zwlad 17 September 2020 10: 43
    +1
    Can't you bomb right after the warning shots?
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 September 2020 10: 53
    0
    Whoa! It is not so easy to hit a moving ship with an unguided bomb.
    It is necessary to greatly decrease and fly strictly above the ship parallel to its course.
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 September 2020 10: 57
      0
      Duc, the task is worth it - to miss the ship. It's just not difficult. Though....
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 11: 03
      +6
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Whoa! Get in unguided bomb in a moving ship not so easy. It should be greatly reduced and fly strictly above the ship parallel to its course.


      Did you get stupid again in the morning? Topmast bombing is performed by approach at low altitude perpendicular to the target course... When dropping a series of 4 bombs, the probability of hitting is in the region of 0.3-0.4.
      The approach from the bow or stern is performed when applying the BShU from a dive.
  13. Free wind
    Free wind 17 September 2020 11: 15
    +2
    Every year thousands of North Korean and Chinese poachers violate our borders, with these quick-eyed pretzels how? Or we are with the Ukrainians only at knives. And the fact that the yellow-faced on the border guards are attacking and devouring our resources, is it a side?
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 17 September 2020 11: 34
      +2
      Quote: Free Wind
      Every year thousands of North Korean and Chinese poachers violate our borders, with these quick-eyed pretzels how? Or we are with the Ukrainians only at knives. And the fact that the yellow-faced on the border guards are attacking and devouring our resources, is it a side?


      What do you know on this topic? Because the border guards in the Far East shoot and sometimes sink and requisition ships, etc. and so on, but it often doesn't even reach the central TV ..
    2. AML
      AML 17 September 2020 11: 34
      +1
      We are not at daggers with the Ukrainians. They are with us at knives. Even when they fired at the territory of the Russian Federation, they had nothing for it.
  14. Nehist
    Nehist 17 September 2020 11: 21
    -1
    What are we talking about? The border guards can do it all. Yes, it happens that the Navy is a pancake ... They see. No help was ever given. PS I am writing about the DV. Here the Pograntsy and Flotskys play in one wicket. Since they understand
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 17 September 2020 11: 21
    0
    What is the meaning of this action? Dispose of bombs, jam fish?
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 September 2020 12: 33
      +1
      What is the meaning of all actions? Show that we do exist! Though...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 September 2020 12: 44
        0
        So it seems, and so the methods of influencing the "slow-witted" were in sufficient quantity, quite effective!
        Well this is not a submarine, a depth charge, to the top "charge" !!!
        For the majority of the machine-gun burst, according to the clues, it is quite, quite understandable.
  16. AML
    AML 17 September 2020 11: 32
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    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Well, that's a logical addition ...

    It is necessary to scare, perhaps even to drown, but to do bombing into the water? Somehow uneconomical.
  17. viktor.
    viktor. 17 September 2020 12: 37
    +1
    [quote = Simargl]And an aircraft carrier is easier to flood - it is expensive to feed. Capitalism.[/quote]
    There are not enough workers in Russia, but he is to Drown !!! stop
  18. senima56
    senima56 17 September 2020 13: 31
    0
    Long overdue! good drinks
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 17 September 2020 13: 42
    -1
    I see no point in warning bombing; everyone who needs to understand that they have violated the state border understands whether they will bomb there or not.
  20. alien308
    alien308 17 September 2020 16: 28
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    For the most arrogant. The impact of heavy weapons on those who have not even been to the artillery range is impressive. They themselves will be scared and will scare away panic. Fear is like an infection. Intimidating the target audience is often more important than defeat.
  21. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 17 September 2020 17: 12
    +2
    I would support the initiative. An American destroyer and an English scout again entered the Black Sea. So the commander received the order to "cut" the border like in 88 near Sevastopol, only the inner circle and the watch will be aware of this, the rest of the hold negros will understand where they hit only if the water hammer from the 250-kg FAB is perceived on the hull! Riot on the ship is assured - "black lives matter"!
  22. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 17 September 2020 21: 06
    -1
    What bombing? I believe we have many free fall bombs. (Sorry, but to use gliding, barrage, and other modern ammunition is to shoot sparrows from a cannon.) And these simple bombs should be dropped on the course? Well, well ... And the specialists of precision bombing at the border guards (yes, Karl, precisely at the border guards)
    there is?
  23. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 17 September 2020 21: 42
    0
    I am against it, but what about fishing, if bombs are thrown on every zilch from the Anglo-Saxons ...
    ps I am silent about the cost price, any plane has a cannon or a large-caliber machine gun, this is enough for a bang !!!!!!!!!!!
  24. shonsu
    shonsu 17 September 2020 22: 59
    +1
    Mandatory bombing and 33 more recent Chinese warnings. laughing
    And in my opinion one warning is enough. In the swearing words, if the deaf are deaf - a shot on the course, and then to defeat. And there is no need to lead round dances here. Brevity is the soul of wit. lol
  25. Klingon
    Klingon 17 September 2020 23: 07
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    It is high time. and then from all sides, both on the sea and in the air, and become more and more impudent.
  26. Protos
    Protos 18 September 2020 02: 13
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    Quote: AML
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Well, that's a logical addition ...

    It is necessary to scare, perhaps even to drown, but to do bombing into the water? Somehow uneconomical.

    We have a lot of old FAB-50s in storage;)
  27. wow
    wow 18 September 2020 09: 38
    0
    It was necessary to sink the ukrokreisers, science would be different.
  28. Diverter
    Diverter 19 September 2020 11: 33
    0
    I strongly support this warning to all violators. and especially in the Far East!