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"M1 Abrams is the best main battle tank in the world" - a new training program for tankers was presented in the USA

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In the United States, they talked about the introduction of a new program for cadets of military academies studying in the military specialty "tankman" (mechanic-driver of armored vehicles), as well as for military personnel tank divisions. The DiSTI program is based on the possibility of virtual study of blocks and assemblies of the Abrams main battle tank in the M1A2 SEP v3 modification and includes instructions (DTT) for diagnosing and troubleshooting.


US military command reports that new training equipment is being deployed at three US military bases. These are the bases of Fort Benning (Georgia), Fort Lee (Virginia) and Gowen Field (the combined base in Idaho).

DiSTI CEO John Hayward:

The M1 Abrams has been around for nearly three decades and remains the best main battle tank in the world. We provide opportunities to improve the combat readiness and effectiveness of troops. Our program also includes training opportunities for the maintenance of light tactical combat vehicles (JLTV) for the US Army and National Guard.

According to Hayward, "the fact that the Abrams is the best MBT in the world is confirmed by their effective use in different conditions."

The American M1A2 Abrams SEP v3 tank maintenance training program assumes 200 sessions based on 80 technological maps. In this case, servicemen carry out "repair and maintenance" on virtual simulators. The total cost of simulators with virtual circuits of the tank device costs almost $ 5 million, which is comparable to the price of the Abrams itself.

In the United States, they say that servicemen who have received DiSTI experience will be able to more efficiently service the Abrams tanks of new modifications. The program has critics in the States, noting that a virtual simulator will never replace the lessons of real maintenance of combat vehicles.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 September 2020 08: 18
    17
    You can't praise yourself - no one will praise ... Bring to biathlon, compete ... weak? laughing
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 September 2020 08: 25
      +7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Bring to biathlon, compete ... weak?

      The Americans have a large complex at the expense of their indisputable exclusivity. The fear of getting into a puddle of prelude does not allow them to take such risks.

      But for the Chinese - my deepest respect yes They go with their own, without complexes and arrogance.
      In this they are simple, without prejudice, well, just like the Russians ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 17 September 2020 08: 43
        +2
        At NATO tank competitions, it happened that the Americans
        ended up out of the first three prizes. But they came to
        next time as usual. They have no complex to lose.
        The point is different. In biathlon rules that are far from real
        combat shooting and movement.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 17 September 2020 08: 49
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The point is different. In biathlon rules that are far from real
          combat shooting and movement.

          UhAle ! Don't you confuse a sporting event, show with anything else?
          Here's what you can surprise (if such a statement follows from you) is that the Americans do not care about some kind of show, and the refusal to participate is motivated only by this ...

          And we know that the USA is a nation of showmen. Moreover, their president is a showman ...
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 17 September 2020 08: 53
            -3
            That's right - the show. But the show needs the right technique.
            Neither the Abrams, nor the Leopard, nor the Merkava were designed for the show.
            They each have 15 tons of additional armor to increase survival
            crews. You can't jump with it, but there is benefit.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 17 September 2020 08: 59
              15
              Quote: voyaka uh
              That's right - the show. But the show needs the right technique.
              Neither the Abrams, nor the Leopard, nor the Merkava were designed for the show.

              An interesting conclusion yes .

              T-72, nachit, and Type-96 for the show were designed belay ?

              If we think further in this vein, then the Su-35, among the aircraft with its super-maneuverability, was created for the show?
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 17 September 2020 09: 00
                +1
                The T-72s were designed in the USSR with an emphasis on attack, not crew protection.
                Compare with Armata, where the principle of crew protection prevails.
                ----
                Aircraft of the Su-27 line were created with an emphasis on close combat,
                for short-range explosive missiles. In the 70-90s, super-maneuverability
                was very important. In the 00s, fighter radars were strengthened and, accordingly
                medium-range explosive missiles appeared. It became possible to attack
                enemy fighter from a long distance suddenly. And the importance
                super-maneuverability decreased (but did not disappear, of course).
                1. Jack O'Neill
                  Jack O'Neill 17 September 2020 09: 10
                  -19 qualifying.
                  If you take the first M1s, then they, with high crew protection and crew survival, can show themselves at such shows.
                  And the T-72 was actually created for only one purpose - to deliver the barrel to Europe, everything else is irrelevant. It's good, after all, that we woke up and burned down the T-14.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 17 September 2020 13: 08
                    +6
                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    If you take the first M1s, then they, with high crew protection and crew survival, can show themselves at such shows.

                    So what's the problem ? Don't know the way to Biathlon?
                    1. Jack O'Neill
                      Jack O'Neill 17 September 2020 20: 18
                      -5
                      So what's the problem ?

                      Probably the fact that M1 versions are no longer in nature. All upgraded to versions М1А1 / А2 SEP (V *).
                2. Hiller
                  Hiller 17 September 2020 22: 00
                  +3
                  Strange opinion. There is a book such as BUSV. There are no priorities for tank brands. Tank on the defensive. Tank on the offensive ... and not a word of any modification. Apparently "non-professionals" published this book. And they have no combat experience. IMHO
              2. eklmn
                eklmn 17 September 2020 18: 00
                -4
                weight of the t-72 tank - 45t for 2015
                weight of the t-96 tank -> 45t for 2014
                weight of the M1-abrams tank - (one of the heaviest medium tanks)> 62t

                Voyaka-Uh is right - you can't compare these tanks at the training ground. As they say in Odessa, these are two big or four small differences.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 17 September 2020 20: 41
                  +7
                  Quote: eklmn
                  (one of the heaviest medium tanks)

                  Now there are no "medium" tanks for a long time, all countries of the world have long ago switched to the classification "main battle tank".
                  Quote: eklmn
                  Voyaka-Uh is right - you can't compare these tanks at the training ground.

                  They can't fight in battles either, is one heavier than the other? But if your tank, with approximately the same parameters, weighs a third more, then as the Yusovites themselves say, the Sheriff does not care about the problems of the Negro.
            2. basmach
              basmach 17 September 2020 09: 20
              +5
              Yes Yes. Especially for Abrams. Almost Dumas. - "Isn't it said loudly. - It is said by a man who is accustomed to meet danger with his chest. - Still, you won't show your rear to anyone!"
              His forehead is good, but about the rest. DShK may be enough.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 17 September 2020 09: 26
                0
                It's right. The sides of the Abrams body are weak. This is only fixed
                recently in the last Blocks. Suspended armor panels and
                installed KAZ.
                But Abrams was designed in the 70s as a defensive anti-tank weapon.
                against massive attacks by Soviet tanks. Therefore, they made a powerful uranium forehead.
                1. spectr
                  spectr 17 September 2020 14: 17
                  +2
                  It turns out that the US has revised the purpose of the tank? And from defensive it is turned into an offensive weapon.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 17 September 2020 14: 57
                    0
                    It was turned from an anti-tank weapon in a major war
                    into a universal support tool in a local war.
                2. Incvizitor
                  Incvizitor 17 September 2020 20: 32
                  +2
                  Only now, tanks are used in local conflicts, where tank battles are incredible nonsense, but they are burning from the side from ancient RPGs, because such tanks do not make sense.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 17 September 2020 21: 02
                    0
                    RPGs ceased to burn them with the advent of metal-ceramic panels.
                    Hezbollah's instructions to its militants are strictly written: "according to Merkava-3 and 4
                    do not shoot from the RPG. "
                    But 150 mm ATGMs, these panels in 50% of hits destroyed
                    with a break. Therefore, they installed KAZ.
                    1. Incvizitor
                      Incvizitor 18 September 2020 14: 59
                      0
                      Well, about Marqua, another conversation, there is an incredible sandwich and it is immediately clear that from the old RPGs there is little need for something like hashim vampire or ATGM.
            3. Alf
              Alf 17 September 2020 13: 06
              +4
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Neither the Abrams, nor the Leopard, nor the Merkava were designed for the show.

              And what can you call the Canadian Trophy? And the performance in which one of the disciplines was considered to be crushing a car by a tank or shooting a pistol from a tank tower?
        2. stalki
          stalki 17 September 2020 09: 08
          10
          They have no complex to lose.
          The point is different. In biathlon rules that are far from real
          combat shooting and movement.
          And where does NATO? And real live shooting? People speak for our tank biathlon, they were invited, they didn't come. That's it, the conclusion is simple, you can't wash it off. There is no longer a complex, but an understanding of the objective situation, if the Russians lose, then this is for life laughing And how are the rules? If you are really into the game, then what can we say for a real battle. With their crown, they can't do anything, not even a hint of a speck lol this is one of the most sore spots for the exceptional.
        3. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 17 September 2020 18: 14
          +1
          Warrior, is the task of "crushing a car" a real shooting or movement? And then there is such discipline at NATO competitions)))
        4. blackice
          blackice 19 September 2020 07: 57
          -1
          In biathlon rules that are far from real
          combat shooting and movement.

          Well, if they cannot win in this scenario, then what about the combat conditions?
          In combat conditions, there is no specific route and a convenient firing position, and targets in return can be thrown to the eyeballs.
          So this is not an argument on your part, but rather a reverse.
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 17 September 2020 09: 34
        +1
        According to the rules of biathlon, BT-7 will not leave a chance for the "Tiger".
        1. blackice
          blackice 19 September 2020 08: 08
          -1
          Especially in shooting, right?
          Is biathlon just a test of speed?
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 17 September 2020 08: 31
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      You will not praise yourself - no one will praise ...

      I wonder what this VO praises him for?
    3. Labrador
      Labrador 17 September 2020 08: 31
      +4
      Who would argue - our trains are the most trainable trains in the world laughing .
    4. Finches
      Finches 17 September 2020 08: 35
      10
      When you drive a miraculous tank against the Bedouin tribes armed, at best, with caramults produced in 1903, then of course it will always be the best and invincible, the only danger in this case is the presence of a specially trained nigra-loader in the crew, which can kick up, since the life of a nigra matters and refuse to go anywhere, and even more so to fight! Or make the tank commander kiss his ankle laughing
      1. Alf
        Alf 17 September 2020 13: 10
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        who can kick up, since the life of a nigra matters and refuse to go anywhere, and even more so to fight! Or make the tank commander kiss his ankle

        Well, I don’t know .. In combat conditions, most likely, the commander will quietly shoot him from a fallen palm tree, especially if the commander is from the South.
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 September 2020 20: 35
        +3
        Especially when you first level these Bedouins with tamaghawks, then use helicopters to spread the remnants, you can drive through the ashes.
    5. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 17 September 2020 08: 41
      +5
      [quote = Mountain Shooter] Bring to biathlon, compete ... weak? [/ quote]
      They called - refused ... Even for the first. Can you imagine if the American team on the “Abrams” was suddenly taken and kicked by the Vietnamese team on the T-72? Shame is the most affectionate word that will sound over all America ...

      It is better to drive around on our own training grounds and turn off the barmaleevs on donkeys from a cannon - there is full scope for puffing out your cheeks. Well, you can also read Dave Majumdar at your leisure - he also sings sweetly about what kind of equipment and weapons are bad in Russia. By the logic of the opposite, they are good in America. Even the best ones. America is exceptional and everything must be exceptional. GY-GY ...
    6. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 17 September 2020 09: 20
      +6
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      You can't praise yourself - no one will praise ... Bring to biathlon, compete ... weak? laughing

      With such a refereeing, I would be careful. A shot in the milk, the announcer says they hit, The shot flew 3 meters higher and far beyond the target - they hit again, it's a shame, not biathlon
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 17 September 2020 13: 22
        0
        It's funny. The commentator, of course, is crazy about such shooting. but even though he stutters, he tries to speak cheerfully.
      2. Nosgoth
        Nosgoth 21 September 2020 03: 26
        0
        Do not confuse the functions of a commentator and a judge, they are called differently for a reason. Or do you think that a commentator at a football match assigns a penalty instead of a referee?
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 21 September 2020 10: 28
          0
          Quote: Nosgoth
          Do not confuse the functions of a commentator and a judge, they are called differently for a reason. Or do you think that a commentator at a football match assigns a penalty instead of a referee?

          And yet it's a shame, not biathlon
    7. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 17 September 2020 09: 24
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      You can't praise yourself - no one will praise ... Bring to biathlon, compete ... weak? laughing

      Hi Eugene hi
      I would suggest giving them a test drive on the Russian black earth.
      1. Alf
        Alf 17 September 2020 13: 12
        +4
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        You can't praise yourself - no one will praise ... Bring to biathlon, compete ... weak? laughing

        Hi Eugene hi
        I would suggest giving them a test drive on the Russian black earth.


        As they say, you are welcome!
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 17 September 2020 15: 24
          0
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          You can't praise yourself - no one will praise ... Bring to biathlon, compete ... weak? laughing

          Hi Eugene hi
          I would suggest giving them a test drive on the Russian black earth.


          As they say, you are welcome!

          It is the most good
    8. vadim dok
      vadim dok 17 September 2020 14: 43
      0
      Not an accurate translation: Tank Abrams is ONE of the best tanks in the world!
      1. Alf
        Alf 17 September 2020 15: 27
        +2
        Quote: vadim dok
        Not an accurate translation: Tank Abrams is ONE of the best tanks in the world!

        This is YOU think so, THEY think that the best.
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 17 September 2020 08: 23
    +5
    a virtual simulator will never replace real maintenance lessons b
    This is correct. until you crawl with the pens, you don't pinch your fingers and you won't smear the snout in the lubricant - you won't understand the essence and subtleties of the process ... Although many consider themselves pilots even after flight simulators. Such a program is good as a theoretical study, but after it all the knowledge gained must be consolidated with practice.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 17 September 2020 08: 45
      +6
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      a virtual simulator will never replace real maintenance lessons b
      This is correct. until you crawl with the pens, you don't pinch your fingers and you won't smear the snout in the lubricant - you won't understand the essence and subtleties of the process ... Although many consider themselves pilots even after flight simulators. Such a program is good as a theoretical study, but after it all the knowledge gained must be consolidated with practice.

      Thank God that when I served in the army, there were no computers. And then, you see, instead of hand-to-hand training, we would have been put behind a monitor in some "Mortal Kombat" to hone our fighting skills ...
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 17 September 2020 09: 21
        +6
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Thank God that when I served in the army, there were no computers. And then, you see, instead of hand-to-hand training, we would have been put behind a monitor in some "Mortal Kombat" to hone our fighting skills ...

        Thank God that we already had computers. laughing
        We went to the komputer class on self-training and practiced zeroing. To complete dullness, to a state when you do not count but evaluate. Gave a lot. Better than solving examples on a piece of paper.
        Even though the graphics were disgusting laughing laughing laughing
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 17 September 2020 09: 56
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          We went to the komputer class on self-training and practiced zeroing. To complete dullness, to a state when you do not count but evaluate. Gave a lot. Better than solving examples on a piece of paper.

          Well, I did not serve under Stalin either. Somewhere there were computers already. At the institute in the 1st year, in front of the army (we were then taken from institutes), they showed Japanese - "Toshiba", in my opinion. They just told me not to touch it with my hands. On the "Agat" with the "Shilalis" TV monitor, they played "Snake".

          I won't say about zeroing, but doing hand-to-hand combat on a computer is like running a marathon in a chair in front of the TV. I have a neighbor, Chief Judge for All Sports. 160 kilograms of bacon spreads in an armchair in front of the TV, puts in front of him a battery of beer, a bucket of chips and let's go in for sports through sports channels ... laughing And not a single judge, except him, can judge a single sport from synchronized swimming to rugby.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 17 September 2020 10: 12
            +3
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            I won't say about zeroing, but doing hand-to-hand on a computer is like running a marathon

            Why "on a computer" and not "with a computer"?
            Computerized dummies for replacing pears appeared in the last century.
            This is a system that allows, for example, to work out sparring on knives, including with "feedback", so as not to get used to "the knife is safe"
            And so forth ...
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 17 September 2020 10: 35
              +2
              Quote: Spade
              Computerized dummies for replacing pears appeared in the last century.
              This is a system that allows, for example, to work out sparring on knives, including with "feedback", so as not to get used to "the knife is safe"
              And so forth ...

              Full contact sparring is somehow more familiar and understandable than a computerized punching bag. And no computer can replace the SSP or the cross-country march.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 17 September 2020 14: 29
                +1
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Sparring full contact

                With knives?
                Here either or.
                Or a grave, or a long term, up to life. I would not risk it
  3. V1er
    V1er 17 September 2020 08: 25
    +5
    And why is a photo of Abrams displayed everywhere in sand camouflage? Our sworn partners have repainted it long ago. This is how the Abrams look like that stand on our border in Poland and the Baltic states. It's time for the layman to get used to the new look.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 17 September 2020 08: 38
      +2
      Quote: V1er
      It's time for the layman to get used to the new look.

      Why would a layman get used to the new type of Abrams?
      1. V1er
        V1er 17 September 2020 08: 45
        +7
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Why would a layman get used to the new type of Abrams?

        And then, so that they do not have illusions. According to the plans of a potential enemy, they were repainted to work on our TVD. Everyone should know that Abrams is changing its location from the desert to the forests of Eastern Europe. And he is already close, close at hand.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 17 September 2020 09: 30
          0
          Quote: V1er
          And then, so that they do not have illusions.

          Those who need it by the nature of their service have no illusions anyway. Equally, people are thinking.
          And the man in the street does not care about such things. For him, a layman, now his number one concern is a possible increase in the excise tax on cigarettes by twenty percent.
          1. Nosgoth
            Nosgoth 21 September 2020 03: 27
            0
            Dispute for the sake of dispute?
    2. businessv
      businessv 17 September 2020 08: 44
      10
      Quote: V1er
      It's time for the layman to get used to the new look.

      It is time for the man in the street to study the most vulnerable spots of this "miracle of technology", as well as the use of modern ATGMs to destroy it. Your post reminded me of an anecdote that a pessimist learns Chinese, an optimist learns English, and a realist learns the AKM device. smile
      1. V1er
        V1er 17 September 2020 08: 45
        +2
        good I agree with you)
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 17 September 2020 08: 50
        10
        Quote: businessv
        Your post reminded me of an anecdote that a pessimist learns Chinese, an optimist learns English, and a realist learns the AKM device.

        good
        I remembered, albeit from a different opera
        When a liberal hears "It's time to blame," he asks: "Where?"
        The patriot asks: "Whom?"
      3. Insurgent
        Insurgent 17 September 2020 08: 56
        +6
        Quote: businessv
        It's time for the layman to study the most vulnerable spots of this "miracle of technology", as well as the use of modern ATGMs to destroy it.


        We have a memo-instruction yes

    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 17 September 2020 20: 39
      0
      In case of war, they will be burned with Kholui territories, so you don't have to get used to it.
  4. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 17 September 2020 08: 33
    +6
    “The M1 Abrams is the best main battle tank in the world USA»
    But this world is shrinking. request A F-35 is the best combat aircraft in the world USA? Congratulations, only after the election of the prezik, otherwise it is not clear who to send the bouquet to. repeat
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 17 September 2020 08: 59
      +4
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      “The M1 Abrams is the best main battle tank in the world USA»
      But this world is shrinking. request A F-35 is the best combat aircraft in the world USA?

      When I was involved in weightlifting in my youth, every spring, drishches came to us somewhere in mid-late April to "pump up for the summer" (they disappeared by June). And when they turned around near the mirror to assess how much their biceps had grown after two workouts of useless wandering around the hall, our coach liked to say about such: "Well, the next one is the strongest. In his apartment" ...

      I fully admit that the Abrams is the best tank. IN USA. And American tankers are the best tankers. IN USA. And everything else can be assessed only on something like the Kursk Bulge.
  5. unhappy
    unhappy 17 September 2020 08: 36
    +7
    People, you don't need to dissuade potential opponents! Let them think so ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 17 September 2020 13: 15
      +3
      Quote: unhappy
      People, you don't need to dissuade potential opponents! Let them think so ...

      Yes, and there is nothing to argue!
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 17 September 2020 08: 41
    0
    The M1 Abrams tank has been around for about three decades, while it remains the world's best main battle tank.

    Kra a asivo is said. The main thing is more confidence in the voice, talkative.
  7. Radius
    Radius 17 September 2020 08: 52
    +1
    "M1 Abrams is the best main battle tank in the world" ... If this mantra is repeated 10000 times, then khan to all opponents!
  8. Shuttle
    Shuttle 17 September 2020 09: 04
    +6
    Much more interesting is not a casual opinion about the ubertank, but a message about a tank maintenance simulator. Of course, stimulation does not replace real technical work. But it makes them pretty much familiar and more meaningful. The latter will undoubtedly lead to a more competent and, consequently, more effective action of l / s and the use of weapons and equipment.
    By the way, the topic of military simulators for some reason is not covered on VO. For a long time NATO members have Virtual battle space, which is not the first version. Someone knows him from his civilian version of the OFP / ArmA. What about simulators?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 September 2020 09: 17
      +5
      Quote: Shuttle
      about the tank maintenance simulator.

      If by "simulator" we mean something like a 2X51 simulator, then yes, a great thing
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 17 September 2020 14: 58
        0
        I'm talking about something like this.

        Note that the video on the Internet is already 13 years old.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 September 2020 16: 33
          +1
          Well this is not a "maintenance simulator"
          1. Shuttle
            Shuttle 17 September 2020 17: 19
            0
            Quote: Spade
            Well this is not a "maintenance simulator"

            wink I meant the situation with the use of computer simulation for training l / s in the armies of the world as a whole.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 17 September 2020 18: 18
              +2
              Quote: Shuttle
              I meant the situation with the use of computer simulation for training l / s in the armies of the world as a whole.

              This is yes.
              We have a lot of obstacles to this because we have a lot of seams.

              Even here in the comments there is a complete misunderstanding.

              In general, about the "maintenance simulator" in the photo is the 2C19 simulator. Where the entire artillery unit of the ACS is presented.
              On it, combat work can be practiced, and materiel can be studied, and used in emergency situations. For example, in case of breakdowns, etc.
    2. Livonetc
      Livonetc 17 September 2020 09: 19
      +1
      What is an ubertank?
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 17 September 2020 14: 59
        +3
        Quote: Livonetc
        What is an ubertank?

        It's ironic - Über-tank, super-tank, wundrewffe, super-weapon.
        From the German Über - over, over.
  9. Lopatov
    Lopatov 17 September 2020 09: 13
    +1
    for cadets of military academies studying in the military specialty "tanker"

    ?
    Are there such people in the USA?
    I heard that their type of troops will be finally recognized only by graduation.
  10. zwlad
    zwlad 17 September 2020 09: 13
    -3
    "The M1 Abrams is the best main battle tank in the world"

    Cool!
    But we have the best roads along which not a single Abrams will go far.
  11. jovanni
    jovanni 17 September 2020 09: 19
    +2
    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Why would a layman get used to the new type of Abrams?

    The layman does not need anything. It is necessary to universally renew in schools such a discipline as CWP, and not only to study machines, but also methods of dealing with enemy armored vehicles. To be able to destroy it regardless of what color it will be camouflaged ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 17 September 2020 13: 17
      +3
      Quote: Jovanni
      It is necessary to universally renew in schools such a discipline as CWP, and not only to study machines, but also methods of dealing with enemy armored vehicles.

      What do you allow yourself! So that our beloved children learn to fight with our partners, including financial ones ???
  12. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 17 September 2020 09: 28
    -1
    It will be like in a joke: the hatches were opened, and the tower was turned, but it still does not go
  13. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 17 September 2020 09: 32
    +3
    The M1 Abrams is the best main battle tank in the world


    By weight, perhaps the best laughing
    1. Alf
      Alf 17 September 2020 13: 18
      +3
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      The M1 Abrams is the best main battle tank in the world


      By weight, perhaps the best laughing

      At a cost.
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 17 September 2020 17: 04
        0
        By weight - the fourth Merkava; cost - French ... EMNIP. Although the latest modification of Abrams seems to go head to head with competitors in both parameters smile Here, the LMS, they say, is the best.
        1. Alf
          Alf 17 September 2020 17: 13
          +3
          Quote: dzvero
          cost - French ... EMNIP. Although the latest modification of Abrams seems to go head to head with competitors in both parameters

          The Americans could not calmly look at the fact that someone bypassed them, so they put on a price tag. laughing
  14. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 17 September 2020 09: 34
    +1
    Simulators and other "pribluda" are of course good, but all this is "dust in the eyes", but to make an automatic loader "tyamu" is not enough! slightly better than the T-20 ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 17 September 2020 13: 19
      +2
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      but to make an automatic loader "tyamu" is not enough!

      What for ? Aren't there enough blacks? Simple, cheap, and kick-driven.
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 17 September 2020 17: 07
        +2
        Negroes are not the same these days. Pesh - they will sue. BLM (censored) ... smile
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 September 2020 09: 52
    0

    DiSTI CEO John Hayward:

    The M1 Abrams has been around for nearly three decades and remains the best main battle tank in the world.
    Each toad praises its swamp. laughing
  16. Free wind
    Free wind 17 September 2020 10: 03
    +1
    Computers give a lot, it's a very good thing. It's one thing when you read the instructions for maintenance and repair, another thing is shown everything live, and advice is possible from experienced specialists. Moreover, some points are not indicated in the instructions. And in some cases, the instructions are harmful. Therefore, it is better to read the instructions and play on the simulator. And then get down to business under the guidance of a mentor.
  17. Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 17 September 2020 10: 39
    +1
    The tank is like a tank. So far, it was mainly used to drive "savages" to say something else is simply impossible ...
  18. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 17 September 2020 17: 59
    +1
    The steamer is good, only afraid of water. And this miracle is afraid of the earth, loves stony soil and enemies weaker, so that they would have old technology.
  19. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 17 September 2020 18: 12
    0
    And do they change the gusli "on virtual simulators" too? And do the filters change / clean in the picture too? laughing
  20. Andobor
    Andobor 17 September 2020 18: 57
    +2
    They also have the best epidemiological protection system in the world, they die from covid like flies, the mortality rate is an order of magnitude higher than the Russian one, - all the Americans scammed, - only show-off remained.
  21. tarakan
    tarakan 17 September 2020 21: 44
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The T-72s were designed in the USSR with an emphasis on attack, not crew protection.
    Compare with Armata, where the principle of crew protection prevails.
    ----
    Aircraft of the Su-27 line were created with an emphasis on close combat,
    for short-range explosive missiles. In the 70-90s, super-maneuverability
    was very important. In the 00s, fighter radars were strengthened and, accordingly
    medium-range explosive missiles appeared. It became possible to attack
    enemy fighter from a long distance suddenly. And the importance
    super-maneuverability decreased (but did not disappear, of course).

    "Fortress" is good, but judging by the war in Syria, mobility also saves lives
  22. Bear040
    Bear040 18 September 2020 01: 11
    +1
    This is only in the opinion of the United States ...