Taxes in Russia: a burden for someone, a penny for someone

In the photo in the center - the head of the Federal Tax Service of Russia

For a number of years, the Russian Federation has been reforming the tax system. The tax rate today is one of the lowest not only in Europe, but also in the world. This can be called an achievement, but there is one but. 13 percent of the tax for a teacher with a salary of 20 thousand rubles and 13 percent for an oil business owner - for whom this 13% is more tangible, the answer is obvious.

To solve this problem, many economists propose a progressive tax scale. The proposal is as follows: from working people with income below a certain level, the state could collect income tax in the minimum percentage values ​​- 1-2%, or even not take it at all. For people with an average income, the level would be suitable, which is still in place today - 13 percent. But for people with incomes of millions of rubles a month - the tax level could be brought to the "European" level - at least 25%. According to economists, this could provide multibillion-dollar budget increases.

But the state has so far taken such a measure only partially, announcing a tax increase of up to 15% for persons with large incomes - it is planned to be introduced from January 2021. The state is afraid to raise more in connection with the fact that in this case it expects a new surge in capital outflow from the country.

Not so long ago, the Day TV channel published an interview with lawyer Vladimir Turov, who spoke in detail about the tax burden in Russia and abroad, noting on whom this burden has now become an unbearable burden. And for some, the taxes levied are mere kopecks.

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Comments

[paul3390]

Well, yes - and my dear president is remembered two years ago, when he pushed through a cannibalistic pension-type reform, called on us all to understand and forgive, they say there is no money, that's absolutely. I swore by my mother, I gave a tooth. Oh well. In general, our bourgeois state is extremely disgusting for the people, especially if we compare it with the Soviet regime .. And it will only get worse until we return socialism ..

[Lexus]

Greetings! I have already posted this character, but he perfectly reflects the essence of the FTS.

Shot from the cartoon "Treasure Island" (1988)

[nnm]

Yes, the problem is not in the Federal Tax Service, and even more so not in personal income tax rates.
It is much deeper - having enormous financial resources, for many years we have not been able to create production with high added value.
We created Skolkovo, Rusnano, FPI and a dozen more multibillion-dollar toys, and the output is just 0!
Because the reason is corruption! And without extortion, we will have to fill the budget with the sale of raw materials and taxes / quasi-taxes on our own citizens.
I am fine and small, medium-sized businesses understand when they evade taxes - because they do not see where their taxes go. No, on the contrary - they SEE exactly where (to whom) their taxes go.
Given that the state-owned Sberbank, sold to itself during the crisis for 3+ trn rubles, has an overwhelming monopoly influence on the market, while everyone boasts of low inflation - have at least one of them tried to do business with such frantic interest?
Average real rate for business 10-20%
Salary taxes - 13% + 30 +%
VAT -18%
Profit -20%
not including other taxes and fees.
What kind of business margins should be in order to pull such a load? Everyone should be drug dealers or something ?!
It cannot be assumed that citizens' money must necessarily be siphoned off from them by any means - taxes, fees, duties, tales about co-financing a funded pension, etc.
It cannot be assumed that the extensive filling of the budget can be endless. It's time to grab your head and start taking real steps towards a working and non-corrupt economy. Otherwise, we will simply drown in this swamp.

[nnm]

VAT -20%. I brake

[Varyag_0711]

You have described everything very correctly and correctly, I fully support it. One small clarification, VAT = 20% and believe me, this 2% has a very significant burden for business because VAT is almost the only tax that cannot be avoided. Not that it is impossible, but very problematic. And yes, business is well aware that at their expense the state, represented by the corrupt officials, is trying to solve its financial problems. It comes to the point that the money stolen for the repair of roads, officials are trying to compensate at the expense of business, forcing to patch roads at the expense of entrepreneurs. And so in everything and everywhere. Until there are draconian measures as under Stalin, there will be no order, no economic leaps and breakthroughs.

[nnm]

Already recovered from VAT. Just above your comment. And thank you for not just “plus”, but for reading and finding an error.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: nnm

Because the reason is corruption!

+ I agree with you, but I see one more reason. As an entrepreneur, faced with the problem that any production we have is unprofitable, abroad you can always find the same quality, or even higher and at a cheaper price. You can blame the government, corruption, our stupidity, It is! but the reason is probably the banking system. which sets the exchange rate not according to real liquidity, but based on the results of bank tradesthat can be manipulated with a skillful hand. Therefore, whatever one may say, it will be more profitable to buy boards in China, pack them in our boxes and present them as their own. In veterinary medicine (where your humble servant hangs around) 90% of antibiotics with Russian labels are from Chinese raw materials! The law allows you to call packaging production, statistics allows you to report on the growth of production and sales. At the same time, skills, personnel and technologies go away. IMHO of course

[Esaul]

Therefore, with such taxes in our country, it is still profitable to pump only oil and gas, nothing else simply develops.

[Alvis07]

Quote: nnm

We created Skolkovo, Rusnano, FPI and a dozen more multibillion-dollar toys, and the output is just 0!

I disagree with you! Really huge amounts of money were invested, but the same Rusnano or Skolkovo did not work so successfully to at least just go to zero! I think that there is still a fat and solid "minus" for the whole country! And considering how things are currently being done on these structures, we can say that they have turned into an instrument for cutting budgets, created with the money of the same budget!

[businessv]

Quote: nnm

We created Skolkovo, Rusnano

What is typical. if you add the letter O in some places, then everything falls into place, in the sense of how you call the ship .... Oskolkovo, RosOnano ....

[Old partisan]

If you take a bar of 20 tons. the abolition of income tax, then 90% of the population of Russia will not pay this tax.
What should the authorities live on?
It is easier to abolish taxes for oligarchs.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Old partisan

If you take a bar of 20 tons. the abolition of income tax, then 90% of the population of Russia will not pay this tax.

You forgot about hidden taxes, VAT, etc.

[dzvero]

minimum wage - 0% rate
salary up to (approximately) 80000 - rate 10%
salary more than that - rate 25%
Cancellation of income tax in general is also possible. True, then everything that was previously financed by taxes will become paid. Plus an increase in other taxes (eg on housing). This will only benefit the rich. They have that 25% will cover the increase in costs. For ordinary people, the same services will rise not at 10, but at 30 or more percent. Schools for example will be paid. How many people can pay 100-120000 rubles per year for one child? And for two?
The state will live normally. There will be enough other taxes and fees, plus, there is no need to bother with social services, education, healthcare. They will finance the army, the police, the administration, a little bit of science ... and that's all. The people will be (censored), but without the income tax. Like you have money, but hold on anyway

[Svarog]

Quote: Old partisan

What should the authorities live on?
It is easier to abolish taxes for oligarchs.

For the money earned .. Reduce officials, arrange for a real job with the Federation Council, remove the National Guard, remove the police, and introduce a progressive scale .. Nationalize natural resources .. and business then, immediately enough money for everything ... And if the oligarchs have their own yachts sold, then we will also acquire a serious military fleet.
In general, Russia will quickly collapse without socialism and statists in power ..

[Old partisan]

As one of the classics said
You are on the right track, comrades.
They are exactly like a people and a country.

[businessv]

Quote: Svarog

In general, Russia will quickly collapse without socialism and statists in power ..

The majority of Russian citizens will agree with you, in my opinion!

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Old partisan

If you take a bar of 20 tons. the abolition of income tax, then 90% of the population of Russia will not pay this tax.

Moscow is 9% of the population of Russia, state employees, this is another 20%. Moscow can pay 100%. Budget employees too. Entrepreneurs? now the final transition to non-cash is coming and real income will not hide Planck 20% is a village or Khrushchev in cities. But Oligarchs, artists appear !! It seems to me that everything is not so bad, the main thing is to be truthful with yourself. "It's not fair when a beer merchant earns more than a skilled worker." said German Chancellor Adenauer. Justice and not fear were put at the forefront in defeated Germany and where did they come? So we need to remember about justice and add this word to the Constitution. I'm sure we will come

[Simargl]

Quote: Old partisan

If you take a bar of 20 tons. the abolition of income tax, then 90% of the population of Russia will not pay this tax.

And I like the idea of ​​a guaranteed income better. Let's say the cost of living + rent for the region. That's about 20000 on average. And raise the income to 40-50%. Everyone too.
It's easier to count.

[BIABIA]

The cheats are in power. They sang about the abolition of the transport tax and its inclusion in the price of gasoline. It is logical - you drive more, pay more, respectively, less - less. AND? There is a tax, gasoline ..... well, everyone knows ...... VAT 20% was thrown. More, more taxes, different lovely ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: BIABIA

More, more taxes, different wonderful ..

All this is very reminiscent of the tale about Chippolino, or "Dunno on the Moon" by Nosov.

[BIABIA]

One to one. And we remember how "Cipollino" ended ...

[Lexus]

The ministry of bribery will not touch "its own". The Persons Deceived by Hooligans will pay for them.

"Baskaki", painting, S.V. Ivanov

[paul3390]

Yes, the Baskaks by nowadays look quite decent and modest characters .. At the sight of modern taxes, any Horde khan would have hanged himself with envy ..

[napalm]

Ten percent.

[Lexus]

And that's true. The tribute was paid at a fixed rate, once a year, and our fees are growing at every step.

[rocket757]

with incomes of millions of rubles per month - the tax level could be brought to the "European" level - at least 25%

These are not even dreams, these are FAIRY TALES! In which we do not believe, because we have grown up and have seen life!

[avib]

Sorry, colleagues, but this is not a tax - but sheer nonsense. Rejoice and pray that nothing will change.
Here are the taxes in one small and hot country:
Stages:
up to 6310 shekels - 10% tax.
For each shekel, from 6310 to 9050 shekels - 14% tax.
For each shekel from 9050 to 14530 shekels - 20%.
For each shekel from 14530 to 20200 shekels - 31% tax.
For each shekel from 20200 to 42030 shekels - 35% tax.
For each shekel from 42030 to 54130 shekels - 47% tax.
For each shekel over 54130 shekels - 50% of income tax.

Plus 5% of total income - state honey. insurance and 5% social insurance.

Those. earning a lot, you SHOULD give up to 62% of your income to the tax.

A. salaries:
minimum salary - 5300 (1300 $)
medium - 10900 ($ 2650)
median somewhere around 7000

Let's just say - for the majority of IT Co. tabot employees - the maximum tax rate is 35%.

[alesi13]

Why no one is running, as we are told

[alesi13]

And bl .. forgot, we don't have shekels

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: avib

Those. earning a lot, you SHOULD give up to 62% of your income to the tax.

Here, the total taxes in the Russian Federation have already been considered - it turns out more. And it is for those who work. Oligarchs pay less.

[Svarog]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Oligarchs pay less.

Those who are under sanctions, in my opinion, were generally exempted from payment .. they do not pay at all ..

[cyber]

Just don't complain :) Russia: 13% - income tax, 20% VAT, 26% - PFR, 5,1% - FFOMS. Total: 64,1%. And just do not say that employers pay a part, not employees - this is absolutely equal. Those. Already on taxes in Russia, they will take 2.1% more from you than in a small and hot country. Plus, there are hidden excise taxes: in fuel (up to 50% of the cost), alcohol, tobacco products, medicines and other goods requiring certification. Plus, now they have added mandatory labeling for a large group of goods - these are also hidden taxes. Plus, the regular drop in the ruble exchange rate is generally gorgeous, all Russians are immediately skinned immediately.

[avib]

Without exception, all "indirect" taxes are in a small country.
And VAT 17%, and fuel tax 70%, car tax 113% .... and pension tax.
If we compare apples to apples, then this is 13% in Russia and a progressive scale in a small country. Ie, having earned a million in Russia, you give 130 thousand, and in a small country 500 thousand. Feel the difference.

[cyber]

In a "small country" employers don't pay taxes for an employee? Then, if we remove the indirect ones, then in Russia 44,1% (personal income tax, PFR, FFOMS) i.e. 440 thousand from a million. Also "robust"

[Ingvar 72]

The state is afraid to raise more in connection with the fact that in this case it expects a new surge in capital outflow from the country.

Everything is solved very simply, it is necessary to oblige all enterprises operating in Russia to become tax residents in Russia.

[napalm]

It is high time to do something with offshore companies.

[Galleon]

Not that taxes, deductions to the hated pension fund annoy me: almost 40 are already using my money, and 10 years later they will say that I have not earned anything for my pension and you, grandfather, would have gone squatting out of here. This is if I still hold out.

[Old partisan]

I'm practically retired.
And I will tell you openly. If in the 90s I knew how the state would throw me away, I would not pay at all to the Pension Fund of Russia, but it would be better if I would save $ 100 or euros per month. This would be enough for me.
And so, alas, poverty.
What I don’t wish you! You still have 10 years.

[Tests]

In the first five years of his rule, the Supreme commander destroyed what power structure? That's right - the Federal Tax Police Service. What happened after that? That's right - the humanization of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and criminal offenses for non-payment of taxes have become simply administrative offenses. True, judging by my native Arkhangelsk region, neither the Ministry of Internal Affairs nor the FSB were able to control the tax service and stop the crimes of tax inspectors. They simply did not reveal these crimes ... And then LADY the Organized Crime Control Department multiplied by 0. And there they transferred the customs under the wing of the FSB. At all posts for the control over financial flows, personally devotees were placed ... True, the flow of capital export abroad only grew every year, including in cash. Where did the cash come from? From drugs, from builders with migrant workers, from markets dominated by citizens of sovereign Azerbaijan, then sovereign Armenia, then their natives of sunny Dagestan, from not paying taxes. Well, the cherry on the cake is not the one who was able to create something, that is, a practitioner in any branch of the economy, nor an economic theorist who has been teaching for many years, but the country's chief tax collector, who has skillfully put dozens of personal computers that are not domestically assembled (long-standing criminal cases in all regions of the Russian Federation in connection with the purchase of CT scanners in health care institutions are a trifle, compared to the procurement of office equipment for the Federal Tax Service Inspectorate of the whole country, that's just criminal cases, for some reason, no, a paradox ... .)