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The Turkish press announced the alleged appeal of Greece to Russia to modernize the S-300 air defense system

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The Turkish press announced the alleged appeal of Greece to Russia to modernize the S-300 air defense system

Turkish mass media publish material in which it is stated that Greece is supposedly appealing to Russia on the issue of modernizing the air defense system.


Haber7 comes out with an article stating the following: "Greece sat down at the negotiating table with Russia to upgrade the S-300 air defense systems from the PMU-1 version to the PMU-2."

The publication writes that modernized versions of the Russian anti-aircraft missile systems, which are in service with the Greek army, will be deployed on the island of Crete, "to play an important role over key points in the Eastern Mediterranean."

At the same time, the Turkish media refers to the Greek military-themed portal DefenseNet:



From the material:

There is evidence that Greece is going to increase the range of the existing S-300 systems from 150 to 200 km.

It is noted that today the Greek Armed Forces have two S-300 PMU anti-aircraft missile systems and 96 48N6E missiles. These installations and missiles ended up in NATO Greece after they could not get to Cyprus.

It should be noted that all the last time (at least, as reported in the Greek media), the S-300 air defense system was based in Greece on the island of Crete. Several years ago, the Greeks carried out maneuvers there, in which Russian-made anti-aircraft missile systems were involved.

The Greek Ministry of Defense did not comment on statements in the press about an alleged appeal to the Russian Federation for the modernization of the S-300 at this time.
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  1. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 16 September 2020 07: 58
    +7
    So that's great! There will be an order for Almaz-Antey, which means there will be work and, as a result, profit.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 September 2020 08: 04
      +6
      The Turkish press announced the alleged appeal of Greece to Russia to modernize the S-300 air defense system

      It is not surprising that under their, Turkish pressure in aggravating the territorial conflict, they turnedyes

      The complex is ancient, ancient, but the Turks already have S-400 ...
    2. Finches
      Finches 16 September 2020 08: 09
      +2
      Janissaries, nothing personal, this is business! laughing
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 16 September 2020 09: 51
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        Janissaries, nothing personal, this is business! laughing

        In the context of the appeal. Strictly speaking, the Janissaries are not Turks. Elite, guards, assault companies, but not the Turks. request
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 16 September 2020 19: 05
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Elite, guards, assault companies, but not the Turks.

          moreover, they were recruited from "non-Turks". something like a foreign legion but from an early age.
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 16 September 2020 08: 11
      +5
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      So that's great! There will be an order for Almaz-Antey, which means there will be work and, as a result, profit

      Yes, to hell with it, with a profit (although who will refuse?) ... There will be salaries, cash flow, taxes, money to subcontractors ... A working enterprise is a living and healthy person, and an enterprise without orders is a heavy burden for a state corporation.
    4. Alexasmi
      Alexasmi 16 September 2020 15: 40
      -3
      Will not be. The plant of NPO MRTZ JSC, which produces a significant part of the complex, was practically killed by the concern and the Moscow Region.
  2. halpat
    halpat 16 September 2020 08: 01
    +2
    Admit Greece to the CSTO, and Turkey to the EAEU.
    And then modernization and so on ... maybe not needed. smile
    Invite everyone to tank biathlon, let them train. :)
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 September 2020 08: 07
      +9
      Quote: Halpat
      Admit Greece to the CSTO, and Turkey to the EAEU.

      Really и Hedgehog, contrary to popular belief - do not cross No.
      1. halpat
        halpat 16 September 2020 08: 14
        +3
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: Halpat
        Admit Greece to the CSTO, and Turkey to the EAEU.

        Really и Hedgehog, contrary to popular belief - do not cross No.

        Give Cyprus the status of autonomy within the Russian Federation, uniting both halves.
        4 years - Greek President, 4 years - Turkish President. And a Russian military base.
        Rosneft is conducting geological exploration of the seabed and further development of the found one too.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 16 September 2020 08: 20
          +4
          Quote: Halpat
          Give Cyprus the status of autonomy within the Russian Federation, uniting both halves.
          4 years - Greek President, 4 years - Turkish President. And a Russian military base.

          I accept your humorous mood, but still, do you have any realistic plans for resolving the Greek-Turkish confrontation, which, if implemented, will, among other things, increase Russia's influence in the region?
          1. halpat
            halpat 16 September 2020 08: 43
            +2
            do you have any realistic plans for resolving the Greek-Turkish confrontation

            the question is not about my salary, as Mr. Satanovsky says :)
            I think the EU and the US will side with Greece.
            There is also a money issue - Erdogan cannot be allowed to seize oil / gas from the eastern Mediterranean. And Greece is an obedient, small vassal.
            The EU quietly tied Greece hand and foot.
            A couple of years ago I visited Rhodes, after a 25-year break :) Amazing. Now you won't find local fruits there, for example. All from Spain. The same oak and ripening on the counter as the rest of the EU. The Greeks were forbidden! trade your fruit. The European Commission has banned. They left the olive oil and little things there.
            Such ... Khrushchevism.
            You can buy their local fragrant and tasty, "from the garden", only from very small traders, and they are also driven for it.
            So the conflict will flare up until Erdogan is removed.
            And this conflict is beneficial to Russia, in my opinion, however strange it may sound.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 16 September 2020 08: 57
              +1
              Quote: Halpat
              So the conflict will flare up until Erdogan is removed.

              And it will never be removed
        2. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 16 September 2020 08: 51
          +3
          eco flattens you in the morning
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 16 September 2020 08: 55
        +6
        Quote: Insurgent

        Already and the Hedgehog, contrary to the popular statement, do not interbreed

        And where does the barbed wire come from then? belay wink
      3. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 16 September 2020 19: 08
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Already and the Hedgehog, contrary to the popular statement, do not interbreed

        belay but what about a meter of barbed wire?
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 17 September 2020 08: 06
          +1
          Quote: SanichSan
          but what about a meter of barbed wire?

          I say - contrary to popular beliefdo not interbreed.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 16 September 2020 08: 08
    +1
    Now verbal battles will begin, the magazine will sit on their skate!
    It will be difficult without a special filter and a cap with ears, they will start to hang noodles on the ears without restriction.
    Smoke without fire ??? There may be fire, of course, but there will be a lot more smoke.
  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 16 September 2020 08: 13
    -5
    Right. to modernize the complexes for the Greeks. The existing mattresses have been thoroughly studied, the countermeasures are defined, something newer is needed. Again, it will be possible to compare with the characteristics of the S-400, sold to the Turks. NATO rubs sweaty palms, and our traders continue to sell their homeland.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 16 September 2020 08: 59
      +3
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      and our traders continue to sell their homeland.

      Something is produced, released, grown in order to SELL.
      And the decision to sell weapons is not made by them, but at the highest level
  5. Livonetc
    Livonetc 16 September 2020 08: 18
    +1
    The Greeks got even deeper under the states.
    You see, the C300 will soon begin to cover the American military bases.
    Although there is not.
    The Americans will not dare.
    And so, why not.
    Turks buy S400.
    Let the Greeks get the modernized C300.
    There should be no absolute dominance of one of the parties in that region.
    This does not lead to anything good.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 16 September 2020 09: 56
      +2
      С300 and С400 are defense weapons. We will supply everyone, who asks, why not.
  6. bairat
    bairat 16 September 2020 08: 32
    -4
    We must already decide on whose side we are: Greece, which every year supports sanctions against us, or Turkey? It is wrong that we turn a blind eye to these hostile actions. Turkey did not impose sanctions on us, and with its straits it is of the utmost importance for the operation in Syria. So, remembering our difficult history of relations, I would not give an extra reason for a quarrel while arming the Greeks now.
    1. Spambox
      Spambox 16 September 2020 08: 47
      +2
      Modernization and maintenance of previously supplied complexes is always good, good for us (we receive orders for enterprises, we gain a reputation as a reliable partner), good for the Greeks (this will help in curbing the ambitions of the Turks). And on the whole, this will equalize to some extent the positions of the opposing sides.
    2. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa 16 September 2020 09: 04
      +1
      Since both sides are worse than the other, it is better to take a wait and see attitude. Greeks are pro-Russian only when they receive a hat. Turkey, on the other hand, is not at all a friend to Russia.
      1. dinos
        dinos 16 September 2020 12: 23
        +2
        Those. in your opinion, the Greeks are aggravating the situation with their great-power ambitions, it is Greece that is at war with most of its neighbors or violates their sovereign rights in coastal waters, does not recognize the operation of international treaties and conventions or is trying to revise them unilaterally and always from a position of strength. Your comparison is at least not correct and, at all, it is not clear when the Greeks got a hat and became pro-Russian, if they always were.
        1. d4rkmesa
          d4rkmesa 16 September 2020 13: 29
          0
          Are you talking about Russia or Turkey? Under the junta, Greece was definitely not pro-Russian. As well as the last 2 years with the diplomatic scandal and the expulsion of the Russian Orthodox Church. Chesslovo, if you need to ruin a relationship, then you can't think of a better one. Well, except perhaps to join the Turkish TANAP gas pipeline, demonstrating its energy independence. However, of course, this does not mean that Turkey should be supported. The position should be wait-and-see until the helicopter man breaks off the chain. And there you can help Greece with something. There is a certain reality - the trade between Russia and Turkey is much greater than with Greece, the conflict with Erdogan will not bring any benefit.
          Btw is "incorrectly" spelled together.
          1. dinos
            dinos 16 September 2020 16: 22
            0
            Apparently the logistical and financial support of the barmaley in Syria and Libya, not to mention the SU-24 and other dirty tricks in Syria, have an equal weight with a diplomatic scandal about nothing and with incomprehensible graters in religious circles. Well, if we talk about the Greek junta, it was precisely in connection with the pro-Soviet sentiments in Greek society that it was organized.
            For incorrect, thanks, I will take into account.
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 16 September 2020 08: 39
    +2
    It is quite possible. Turkey itself provokes an arms race among its neighbors in the region. The author forgot to mention the strengthening of the Greek Navy, an increase in the recruitment of military personnel and the country's military budget. Then I think we will hear about the conclusion of significant military contracts, the countries of the region
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 September 2020 13: 37
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      It is quite possible that Turkey itself is provoking an arms race among its neighbors in the region.

      Greece is driving itself. For a small country like Greece in such an economic situation, the military budget of $ 5 billion is a huge burden.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 16 September 2020 14: 20
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        Greece is driving itself. For a small country like Greece in such an economic situation, the military budget of $ 5 billion is a huge burden.

        What is the economy, such and the budget of the Ministry of Defense 2,6% of GDP is not so critical anymore. There are also more values, Saudi Arabia 8% of GDP, Oman 8,8% of GDP, Israel 5,6% of GDP.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 20 September 2020 13: 33
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          What is the economy, such and the budget of the Ministry of Defense 2,6% of GDP is not so critical anymore. There are also more values, Saudi Arabia 8% of GDP, Oman 8,8% of GDP, Israel 5,6% of GDP.

          For a country in an economic crisis, this is a lot. Turkey's expenditure in relation to GDP was less than that of Greece.
      2. ved_med12
        ved_med12 16 September 2020 18: 01
        +1
        Greece is driving itself. For a small country like Greece in such an economic situation, the military budget of $ 5 billion is a huge burden.
        Are you suggesting that the Greeks wipe themselves off and spit on their sovereignty?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 20 September 2020 13: 37
          0
          Quote: ved_med12
          Are you suggesting that the Greeks wipe themselves off and spit on their sovereignty?

          To begin with, there is no need to militarize the islands in which there should be no military.
          and secondly, you need to realistically assess your strength. Greek soldiers have not heard shots anywhere else, they are very sensitive to losses and, in general, have no combat experience.
  8. Lesorub
    Lesorub 16 September 2020 08: 44
    +2
    The Turkish press announced the alleged appeal of Greece to Russia to modernize the S-300 air defense system

    The Greeks are in no hurry to buy the C 400 for financial reasons, and it is necessary to raise the quality component - modernization in this case is the only correct option.
  9. nikvic46
    nikvic46 16 September 2020 08: 55
    +1
    Good air defense system. And why is Turkey so strained? It means that she has some plans for Greece.
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 September 2020 09: 54
    0
    They want to modernize, they do not want to modernize. Their money .... in general, with their number of islands + 300/400, the entire region can become unusable there.
  11. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 20 September 2020 22: 17
    0
    Quote: d4rkmesa
    Are you talking about Russia or Turkey? Under the junta, Greece was definitely not pro-Russian. As well as the last 2 years with the diplomatic scandal and the expulsion of the Russian Orthodox Church. Chesslovo, if you need to ruin a relationship, then you can't think of a better one. Well, except perhaps to join the Turkish TANAP gas pipeline, demonstrating its energy independence. However, of course, this does not mean that Turkey should be supported. The position should be wait-and-see until the helicopter man breaks off the chain. And there you can help Greece with something. There is a certain reality - the trade between Russia and Turkey is much greater than with Greece, the conflict with Erdogan will not bring any benefit.
    Btw is "incorrectly" spelled together.

    If we recall the junta, then we should already recall the civil war in Greece. The conflict with the ROC has not lasted for the last 2 years, but has a much long prehistory, it is not correct to equate the Patriarchate of Constantinople with Greece. Well, in recent years, not very clear things have happened in Montenegro and North Macedonia. So, alas, the two sides distinguished themselves.