"Slavic Brotherhood-2020". Not all brothers participate in the teachings

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"Slavic Brotherhood-2020". Not all brothers participate in the teachings

Belgrade's refusal to participate in military maneuvers starting in Belarus with a more than eloquent name, which followed, almost at the last minute, left an extremely unpleasant aftertaste, but in no case could disrupt this event. After all, in any case, its main characters are not Serbs, but Russians and Belarusians.

According to the Ministry of Defense of Belarus, yesterday the long-awaited guests have already arrived at the Brestsky training ground - the soldiers of the 76th Guards Airborne Assault Division of the Airborne Forces of the Russian Armed Forces. According to available data, 300 paratroopers and about 70 units of military equipment are participating in the exercises from the Russian side. The composition of representatives of the host side is more numerous: Belarus is represented by servicemen of the 38th separate guards air assault brigade of special operations forces, and in total they will employ up to one and a half thousand personnel and over 150 units of various military equipment, including and Aviation.



So far, the first phase of the maneuvers is unfolding on Brestskoye, which includes the coordination of units that will have to act together. According to the plan of the exercises, the second, main part of them will take place a little later, from September 21 to 23. At this stage, the "winged infantry" will have no time to get bored and relaxed: its fighters will have to practice night marches and attacks, practical airborne assault and forcing water obstacles. The final chord of joint training will be combat shooting. All these actions will unfold both at the training ground that serves as the main base for maneuvers, and at other locations in the Brest region, in particular, on the section of the Mukhavets River.

By and large, the legend of the exercise is the joint implementation by the forces of the Russian and Belarusian contingents of a lightning counter-terrorist operation and the development of joint special actions in the most complicated conditions. Because of this, skepticism, already expressed by some about the really small forces involved in the maneuvers, is hardly appropriate in relation to their tasks. Still, it will not be large-scale military operations that are actually carried out by massive army groupings that will be practiced, but targeted actions of ideally matched teams of war professionals.

The specific details of the combat training tasks to be performed by the paratroopers (and to be extremely specific, the representatives of the elite airborne units of both countries), of course, are not subject to disclosure. However, some have already seen a certain "subtext" even in the initial phase of the maneuvers. The Pskov paratroopers arrived in Belarus at the same time it became known about the disbandment and redeployment to the places of permanent service of the reserve of Russian "siloviks", created on the border with this country at the request of its President Alexander Lukashenko.

Perhaps those who see a transparent hint in this are not so wrong: if necessary, the assistance promised at one time by Vladimir Putin will be provided in the shortest possible time and, if not the largest, but more than sufficient forces to resolve the crisis situation. Perhaps there is some truth in this, perhaps not. Do not forget that the "Slavic Brotherhood-2020" was launched in full accordance with the Plan of International Activities of the two countries and the decision on the place and time of its holding was made almost a year ago, in October 2019.

As for the reduced number of participants, we can only regret that for some government leaders the words about brotherhood are empty sounds.
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  1. 0
    16 September 2020 12: 10
    A strange name .. With whom do we have a brotherhood of the Slavs? With lyakhami? Banderlog? Or maybe Czechs or Bulgarians? Even the age-old friends of the Montenegrins - and those non-necha in NATO .. ​​All the brothers are left - Belarusians and Serbs .. The rest are, alas, enemies ..
    1. +5
      16 September 2020 12: 15
      The fact that someone does not participate is nuance! Such is the situation in the world!

      By the way, about the Slavic brotherhood and the vaunted European democracy - why is it that outrage over the unrest in Belarus is pouring out of all the irons in the EU, but not even the most lousy democratic European newspaper will ever mention the mass protests in Bulgaria? And why? Yes, because people there took to the streets against the arbitrariness and corruption of the ruling party called the GERB - Citizens for the European Development of Bulgaria ... Lost friends of Brussels! And yet, people are demanding better relations with Russia, and this is generally taboo in Europe! This is such a democracy ... laughing
      1. -1
        16 September 2020 12: 40
        It happens with any "brotherhood"! It is not enough to have kindred ROOTS, you must also have a kindred SOUL !!!
        Shaw say, the brothers turned out to have smaller souls! We can and not all, probably not in all ... BUT, they themselves chose such rulers who, for the sake of something, their goals, are ready to trample everything they want, for the sake of., This is just understandable. People who have only intereses instead of souls.
        We are sho, we cannot convey our own, that's all our world, life, philosophy.
        We are friends with those who never betray us!
        1. +2
          16 September 2020 14: 05
          "Slavic Brotherhood-2020". Not all brothers participate in the teachings

          It's unpleasant, of course, but in war, as in war: it is better to be realistic than idealists!
          And if the allies in the war suddenly turn out to be unreliable in a difficult moment and betray - then either you will immediately lose the war with the loss of the sovereignty of your own state; or the losses in the war will be so incomparable with the previous plans that the war will have to gather forces again, for a long time, costly and according to a different tactical plan, and possibly with other allies
          1. +1
            16 September 2020 14: 13
            If a friend was suddenly
            And not a friend, not an enemy, but - so,
            If you do not understand right away,
            Is he good or bad -

            Neither add nor subtract ... into the mountains, into battle, we do not take them, but then we will not allow to cling to OUR victory!
      2. +5
        16 September 2020 12: 46
        ... why is it that outrage over the unrest in Belarus is pouring out of all the irons in the EU, but no, even the most lousy through and through democratic European rag, will not mention the mass protests in Bulgaria? And why? Yes, because people there took to the streets against the arbitrariness and corruption of the ruling party called the GERB - Citizens for the European Development of Bulgaria ... Lost friends of Brussels! And yet, people are demanding better relations with Russia, and this is generally taboo in Europe! This is such a democracy ...

        Eugene, you have a very frivolous interpretation of the events in Bulgaria, and the EU's reaction on this occasion! laughing I just, an hour ago, crossed the place where our rally in Sofia. I assure you - you are very, very far from understanding the situation here. hi
        1. +2
          16 September 2020 12: 59
          hi So tell us in more detail, please!
          1. +4
            16 September 2020 13: 16
            So tell us in more detail, please!

            Probably need to write a whole article! As an idea for the weekend! hi
            1. +4
              16 September 2020 14: 08
              And this is the right decision! I think many will be interested.
      3. 0
        16 September 2020 15: 41
        Yes ... but the BSP, the heirs of the Bulgarian communists, is the most pro-Russian party, one and the same bastard with the coat of arms!
        1. -4
          16 September 2020 17: 12
          Quote: bagatura
          Yes ... but the BSP, the heirs of the Bulgarian communes, is the most pro-Russian party with the GERB


          Paradoxically, in Bulgaria, the Russian Federation for many years hugged, kissed, recognized as brothers and, according to rumors, financed, not the BSP, but the Bulgaro-Benderovites from the ATAKA party of Volen Siderov wassat



          https://www.capital.bg/politika_i_ikonomika/bulgaria/2019/03/08/3401196_ataka_e_svurzana_s_ruskite_slujbi_prez_firmi_na/





          It vaguely reminds me of something ...
          1. -1
            16 September 2020 18: 48
            Paradoxically, in Bulgaria, the Russian Federation for many years hugged, kissed, recognized as brothers and, according to rumors, financed, not the BSP, but the Bulgaro-Benderovites from the ATAKA party of Volen Siderov

            Nice try, pereselenec (Ivan)! laughing For a Russian site, it will do ... wink

            Party "Attack", parliamentary represented, it is now included in the coalition government. Its leader Volen Siderov does not hide his sympathy for Russia! The "Attack" is an anti-NATO, anti-Western party advocating rapprochement with Russia. Through inter-parliamentary cooperation, meetings are being held with United Russia.
            Here is a rally in support of Russia, organized by "Attack" in front of the Turkish embassy in Sofia, in 2015, when the Turks shot down a Su-24 in Syria.







            But the next photo that you put comes from the so-called. "lukov march"! It is not numerous / approx. 50-100 people / extreme right group anti-communist, self-called BNS / Bulgarian National Union /! They are admirers of Gen. Lukova being a controversial figure in Bulgarian history. He was killed by a communist militant group on February 13, 1943. "Lukovists", after the 90s they carried out several "festivities" to their home, and since 2018, the "Lukov March" was finally banned by the authorities. BNS is a marginal group with no influence in society.



            So the "Attack" party and the BNS have nothing in common with each other! request

            I wonder if you deliberately lied or because of ignorance you did it? bully
            1. +1
              17 September 2020 09: 07
              Thanks for the clarifications. hi
    2. +7
      16 September 2020 12: 41
      A strange name .. With whom do we have a brotherhood of the Slavs? With lyakhami? Banderlog? Or maybe Czechs or Bulgarians? Even the age-old friends of the Montenegrins - and those non-necha in NATO .. ​​All the brothers are left - Belarusians and Serbs .. The rest are, alas, enemies ..

      There are enemies, there are traitors! That external in bulk, that internal in droves! The whole world is crooked, we are only correct! Yes
      1. +6
        16 September 2020 12: 51
        The whole world is crooked, we are only correct!
        Moreover, each individually correct, in the sense that each is on his own mind. laughing
        1. -2
          16 September 2020 12: 56
          Moreover, each individually correct, in the sense that each is on his own mind.

          Well said! good True thought! laughing
      2. +1
        16 September 2020 14: 07
        This is so only in politics, but in fact, everywhere and everywhere people are like people. What can I have against some Texas farmer? Never mind. But if you look at the opposition of countries (politics), I really hate the United States. What can I have against you? Nothing too. But if you remember on whose side you were in the Second World War ... what kind of Slavic brotherhood is with you.
        1. 0
          16 September 2020 15: 24
          This is so only in politics, but in fact everywhere and everywhere people are like people. What can I have against some Texas farmer? Never mind. But if you look at the opposition of countries (politics), I really hate the United States.

          Dear Sergey! hi Politics is guided by interests. All countries, at all times, without exclusion! Brotherhood, friendship exists between people, and politicians rule the ball!
          But if you remember which side you were on in WWII ...

          Everyone has something to remember and, if desired, there will always be reasons for a complaint. When "it is necessary", propaganda to submit material from a corresponding suggestion ... Moreover, it is in a state of massed influence, to change perceptions in societies from "enemies to friends" and vice versa! laughing
          ... what a Slavic brotherhood is with you.

          There have been many conflicts in history between the Slavic countries. No less and no more than that of the Anglo-Saxon, Romanesque or Arabian nations. Nothing fundamentally different. Some claims to have a monopoly over the Slavs are a little alarming. For example, the Russian Federation is a multinational country, although there is a Slavic population / so far / the majority. Ethnically, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Belarus, Slovenia, Croatia, etc., are much more mono-Slavic.
          1. -3
            16 September 2020 16: 22
            Boyan, let's dot the i's. I will give you a simple advice - never tell a Russian that the Second World War is a "pretext", for us it is a terrible tragedy ... 27 million dead ... can you imagine that? This is a grief for every Russian, we do not have a family that would not be hurt by this war. We do not need any propaganda ... why do I need this propaganda if both my grandfather and two uncles died? I already know all this. I am still distracted by the subjects of cooperation between Russia and Germany. I understand that over time it will be forgotten, at least it will not be so acute, but it will obviously not start with me and my children.

            At the expense of conflicts I agree. In general, the history of the world is the history of wars.

            No monopoly. There are simply more Russians, yes, there are more of us - about 150 million worldwide (in Russia there are about 110). And if you want to know personally my attitude towards other Slavs ... I am bitter, very bitter - why are you like that, turned your back and so fiddled with the Anglo-Saxons ... already your heels sparkled.
            1. +2
              16 September 2020 17: 14
              Boyan, let's dot the i's.

              We can’t, as much as we would like! The topic is unusual, the opinions of a million! fellow
              I will give you a simple advice - never tell a Russian that the Second World War is a "pretext", for us it is a terrible tragedy ... 27 million dead ...

              I agree! This is an indescribable, unimaginable tragedy! Eternal memory to the victims!
              Accordingly, you respect someone else's history! For a Pole, the "miracle on the Vistula" is a reason for national pride, but for a Russian, the period is unpleasant. And vice versa - you are proud of the liberation of Moscow Trubetskoy from the Polish-Lithuanians in 1612, and for them it is a defeat. Do you know what causes conflicts about different perceptions of history? Yes, because everyone is different and for everyone his own closer to the heart!
              No monopoly. There are simply more Russians, yes, there are more of us - about 150 million worldwide (there are about 110 in Russia)

              I will answer from the words of V. Hugo - "There are no small nations in the world. The greatness of a people is not at all measured by its number, just as the greatness of a person is not measured by its growth."
              And if you want to know personally my attitude towards other Slavs ... I am bitter, very bitter - why are you, you turned your back and so fiddled with the Anglo-Saxons ... already your heels sparkled.

              I will say mine too! You were the first to turn your back and so (moshtno !!!) scrambled to the Anglo-Saxons ... you already lost your shoes! We barely caught up with you! Gorby, Yeltsin ... ??? You have a short and very selective memory! Therefore, believe me, no one will accept your reproaches. You turn even those who sympathize with you against yourself! hi
              1. -2
                16 September 2020 20: 30
                "I will answer from the words of V. Hugo -" There are no small nations in the world. The greatness of a people is not at all measured by its number, just as the greatness of a person is not measured by its growth. "

                Well, you tell the United States that the greatness of its army does not depend on its size. There are small peoples and there is absolutely nothing offensive in this name - Dolgans, Kets, Mansi ... yes, there are a lot of them. And how do you call the people whose population is only a few thousand? And Hugo ... don't make yourself an idol.

                “I’ll say my own! You were the first to turn your back and so (moshtno !!!) scrambled to the Anglo-Saxons ... you already lost your shoes! We barely caught up with you! Gorby, Yeltsin ... ??? You have a short and very selective memory Therefore, believe me, no one will accept your reproaches. "

                Yeltsin and the spotted traitors, I would have personally shot them ... my hand would not have wavered. And how long did it last? 10 years? What is 10 years for history? And you are already gone. Although we had a lot of good things, take the same Shipka. I even remember such cigarettes. :) And these are not reproaches, it was your choice and you made it - your right.

                "You so turn against yourself even those who have sympathy for you!"

                Well, you are right ... well, I'm not that sweet. Sorry. It happens. Everything will pass - this will also pass.
                1. -1
                  16 September 2020 22: 34
                  Well, you tell the United States that the greatness of its army does not depend on its size.

                  And the United States here ?! I answered you, not the USA!

                  .. And how long did it last? 10 years? What is 10 years for history?

                  Sometimes a story changes its course in an instant!

                  Although we had a lot of good things, take the same Shipka. I even remember such cigarettes. :)

                  There were good and not very good ones, but there were much more good ones. And again it will be, do not hesitate. "Shipka" cigarettes, yes ... as far as I remember, were without a filter ?!


                  And these are not reproaches, it was your choice and you made it - your right.

                  But with this, small peoples / admit / have a problem. There is a law of gravity - large planets attract small ones. By the way, this suggests an interesting parallel with Serbia. With a more obsessive analysis, it turns out that we did not allow a similar situation.

                  Well, you are right ... well, I'm not that sweet. Sorry. It happens. Everything will pass - this will also pass.

                  I'm not personally with you. You are quite a reasonable person, you can have a normal dialogue with you. hi
                  1. 0
                    17 September 2020 09: 15
                    "I am not to you personally. You are quite a reasonable person, you can have a normal dialogue with you."

                    Thank. :)
              2. -1
                17 September 2020 10: 38
                Accordingly, you respect someone else's history! For a Pole, the "miracle on the Vistula" is a reason for national pride, but for a Russian the period is unpleasant. And vice versa - you are proud of the liberation of Moscow Trubetskoy from the Polish-Lithuanians in 1612, and for them it is a defeat. Do you know what causes conflicts over different perceptions of history?
                You, dear, confuse warm with long. The Great Patriotic War, it was a war with absolute evil, a war in which the Russians (yes, the Georgians, Yakuts, Belarusians, all were Russians ), gave the whole world another chance. And there can be no "other" perception of history. There is good, there is absolute evil and abomination, and all the rest of demagoguery is from the evil one.
                1. +1
                  17 September 2020 13: 25
                  WWII, it was a war with absolute evil, a war in which the Russians (yes, the Georgians, Yakuts, Belarusians, all were Russians) gave the whole world another chance. And there can be no "other" perception of history. There is good, there is absolute evil and abomination, and all the rest of demagoguery is from the evil one.

                  Definitely! There can be no two opinions! good
                  You, dear, confuse warm with long.

                  And here, you dear, confuse warm with long! You clearly do not understand that people have the right to different perceptions on subsequent events - namely, the introduction of totalitarian socialism in the East. Europe! People have every right to be negative about Stalinism in some or other of its manifestations! This does not in any way diminish the feat of the Soviet people who saved the world from the brown plague! hi
            2. -1
              18 September 2020 09: 36
              I am still distorted by the subjects of cooperation between Russia and Germany.
              I think that this feeling is shared by many. One of the most serious mistakes of the Russian leadership is its bet on "pragmatic and partner relations with Germany." This is the natural result of this policy we are now seeing. My acquaintance, a Pole, assured that Germany was behind many of Poland's anti-Russian attacks. What the Germans could not say for themselves, they put into the mouth of the Poles. But over the past 20 years, the Germans themselves have spoken of…. And on our side, silence ... Now it's time to reap ...
      3. 0
        16 September 2020 15: 21
        Golden words, it's hard to "reach" them drinks laughing
        1. +2
          16 September 2020 15: 38
          And there are sane people here! How many? I cannot judge, but I hope that all the same the majority! hi To your health, Nestor! drinks
          1. +1
            16 September 2020 15: 46
            Pytar, did I translate correctly - Peter? Everyone here is sane, only not everyone wants to hear others different from them, feel opinions
    3. +8
      16 September 2020 12: 53
      Nations are not enemies to each other; they are made enemies.
      1. +1
        16 September 2020 13: 14
        Nations are not enemies to each other; they are made enemies.

        Too true! good You can't argue with this judgment! hi Although there are "experts", everyone disputes! laughing
    4. +3
      16 September 2020 13: 19
      There is one option about holding the Slavic Brotherhood exercises, even if Russia alone will participate. Let's divide into tribes: some of the Slovenians will be, some of the Vyatichi, and some of the Krivichi. RF is a self-sufficient country, so it is!
      Previously, there were also "teachings" among their own:
      And vstasha sloveniѣ and krivitsi and merya and chyud against the Varangians, and I drove out across the sea; and start to own your own people and establish cities. AND you yourself are at war, and byst between them the army is great and strife, and vstasha hail to hail, and no more truth in them.
    5. -1
      16 September 2020 15: 18
      How do Bulgarians side with the Slavs?
      1. +1
        16 September 2020 22: 50
        How do Bulgarians side with the Slavs?

        The most direct one. We speak and write in one of the Slavic languages. Moreover, since the 9th century. bully
    6. 0
      1 December 2020 15: 13
      Serbs are actually not brothers either.
  2. +2
    16 September 2020 12: 12
    All brothers and sisters quarreled among themselves. And everything for fornication.
    1. -11
      16 September 2020 12: 32
      Quote: Kamarada
      All brothers and sisters quarreled among themselves. And everything for fornication.

      They have forgotten God, you need to go to Orthodox churches more often.
      1. +7
        16 September 2020 12: 41
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Kamarada
        All brothers and sisters quarreled among themselves. And everything for fornication.

        They have forgotten God, you need to go to Orthodox churches more often.

        money to wear priests.
        1. -6
          16 September 2020 13: 04
          Quote: Dead Day
          money to wear priests.

          No, he prays and ask for forgiveness from the priest.
          1. +3
            16 September 2020 13: 07
            Quote: tihonmarine
            No, he prays and ask for forgiveness from the priest.

            For the fact that I bought few candles.
            1. +7
              16 September 2020 15: 00
              For the fact that I bought few candles.

              Yeah. Repent and die right away in order to rid the "state" of "unnecessary" worries and free up budgetary funds for the construction of another "mansion".
          2. +3
            16 September 2020 13: 08
            Quote: tihonmarine
            No, he prays and asks for forgiveness from the priest

            Who is to blame for what?
            1. -1
              16 September 2020 13: 28
              Quote: Dead Day
              Who is to blame for what?
              Guilt is only before God.
          3. 0
            16 September 2020 14: 08
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Dead Day
            money to wear priests.

            No, he prays and ask for forgiveness from the priest.

            Who???
            1. -1
              16 September 2020 14: 23
              Quote: Skalendarka
              Who???

              The one he offended.
          4. +9
            16 September 2020 15: 33
            Quote: tihonmarine
            ask for forgiveness from the priest

            Personally, I have nothing to ask "father" for forgiveness. For everything, good and bad, that I have done in my life, I will answer before God. And I will also ask God for forgiveness for my life.
      2. 0
        16 September 2020 13: 51
        God has been forgotten. Many have forgotten. Now their god is loot. Thank GOD there are still people who remember. Anyone like, in any language they pray. They talk to God and ask for sinners for us as well.
  3. +1
    16 September 2020 12: 19
    Belgrade is playing multi-vector.
    1. +7
      16 September 2020 12: 21
      Does he have a way out? All around, there is only NATO and the EU, there is no border with us, there is no certainty that we will fit in if anything. Avon - Donbass was abandoned, what can we say about Serbia. So - alas, the Serbs have nowhere to go .. They have to spin ..
      1. 0
        16 September 2020 17: 34
        Multi-vector ends with a color revolution.
  4. +1
    16 September 2020 12: 26
    The further into the forest, the fewer brothers and the thicker the partisans, as they say!
  5. +5
    16 September 2020 12: 27
    Belgrade's refusal to participate in military maneuvers starting in Belarus with a more than eloquent name that followed, almost at the last minute, left an extremely unpleasant aftertaste.
    You shouldn't throw stones at the Serbs anyway. The country was really surrounded from all sides. Serbia, like a gymnast on a wire, balances as best it can. You can understand and forgive.
  6. -2
    16 September 2020 12: 29
    With our policy of supporting dictators, this is one of the last
    1. -2
      16 September 2020 12: 38
      With our policy of supporting dictators, this is one of the last

      Very adequate comments! Respect! hi
    2. 0
      16 September 2020 13: 46
      Quote: imobile2008
      With our policy of supporting dictators, this is one of the last
      Do you think that in the future the Republic of Belarus will also refuse to participate in this event?
  7. -1
    16 September 2020 12: 31
    Quote: paul3390
    A strange name .. With whom do we have a brotherhood of the Slavs? With lyakhami? Banderlog? Or maybe Czechs or Bulgarians? Even the age-old friends of the Montenegrins - and those non-necha in NATO .. ​​All the brothers are left - Belarusians and Serbs .. The rest are, alas, enemies ..

    After Zakharova's message, the Serbs are not friends. And the Belarusians are enemies, after the support of Lkashenka
    1. +1
      16 September 2020 12: 43
      the name is so-so ... it immediately reveals the absence of "brothers" ... once ... and got it wrong ...
    2. +5
      16 September 2020 15: 36
      Quote: imobile2008
      After Zakharova's message

      Nothing to pay attention to her statement.
      Quote: imobile2008
      Serbs are not friends

      They are more than friends to us.
      Quote: imobile2008
      Belarusians are enemies

      Belarusians are our brothers.
      1. +4
        16 September 2020 16: 42
        Quote: Hermit
        Nothing to pay attention to her statement.

        Well, yes, indeed - why pay attention to what the Director of the Information and Press Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry and the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry writes.
  8. +4
    16 September 2020 12: 43
    Smiled, how much pathos in the name laughing
    Shoigu is a true Slav
    1. +3
      16 September 2020 13: 07
      Quote: Nestor
      Shoigu is a true Slav

      And the broadest Ukrainian is Zelensky. Those are the cross, I won't lie.
      1. -1
        16 September 2020 13: 15
        So yes, we are not anti-simites, but cosmopolitans
        Here Dzhugashvili "calibrated" Russian
        1. -2
          16 September 2020 13: 35
          Quote: Nestor
          Here Dzhugashvili "calibrated" Russian

          Russia is not considered to be just Russians, from time immemorial they all lived together, and shared grief and joy together, and when the enemy attacked, they broke him together through the knee.
          1. 0
            16 September 2020 13: 40
            Exactly, only your memory is short
            1. -1
              16 September 2020 14: 10
              Quote: Nestor
              Exactly, only your memory is short

              I'm not complaining, but you are so angry, you probably were not loved in childhood.
              1. 0
                16 September 2020 14: 13
                I'm not evil, I just have a good memory laughing
                1. 0
                  16 September 2020 14: 26
                  Quote: Nestor
                  I'm not evil, I just have a good memory

                  And what did the Russians do badly to you Ukrainians?
                  1. 0
                    16 September 2020 14: 33
                    Territories were squeezed, not enough?
                    1. -1
                      16 September 2020 14: 37
                      Quote: Nestor
                      Territories were squeezed, not enough?

                      When you went to the kindergarten, Ta to and Russia always took your toys back, when they were together, then you were allowed to use it, and now apart, so it's time to return everything that you gave. You can't get away from this. What do you think that the "freebie" will roll?
                      1. -3
                        16 September 2020 14: 42
                        During the collapse of the USSR, the borders were approved within the administrative borders
                        If we talk like that, then both the Kuriles and the Kola Peninsula, etc., there is never Russia
                      2. -3
                        16 September 2020 15: 05
                        Quote: Nestor
                        During the collapse of the USSR, the borders were approved within the administrative borders

                        The USSR left, but Russia remained. So guys, drive someone else's back. And the claims are to Gorbachev, Yeltsin and Kravchuk.
                      3. +2
                        16 September 2020 15: 37
                        Still, it is not in vain that the West is calling for the containment of Russia, you do not care about international treaties and agreements.
                        It’s not good
                      4. -1
                        16 September 2020 15: 51
                        Quote: Nestor
                        Still, it's not in vain that the West is calling for the containment of Russia,

                        So you already kiss the buttocks of African Americans. And who are you now for Russia?
                      5. +1
                        16 September 2020 15: 55
                        Wow you have erotic fantasies
                        We are neighbors for Russia and no one else
                      6. 0
                        16 September 2020 18: 04
                        Quote: Nestor
                        We are neighbors for Russia and no one else

                        So I'm talking about it and I'm just talking about neighbors. That is why Russia takes its own from its neighbors. Sorry "your shirt is closer to your body."
                      7. -1
                        16 September 2020 18: 16
                        You are not tsarist Russia or even the USSR to claim something, so your concept is relative
                      8. 0
                        16 September 2020 18: 54
                        Quote: Nestor
                        You are not tsarist Russia or even the USSR to claim something, so your concept is relative

                        Russia is Russia with a thousand-year history. And what is Ukraine, a state created in December 1991 on a global scale, whose territories were donated by the tsars, and I.V. Stalin.
                      9. 0
                        16 September 2020 19: 08
                        Kievan Rus already adopted Christianity, when Russia was not on the map and even Moscow and the principality
                        Don't make me laugh
                      10. 0
                        16 September 2020 19: 16
                        Quote: Nestor
                        Kievan Rus already adopted Christianity, when Russia was not on the map and even Moscow and the principality
                        The term "Kievan Rus" appears for the first time in historical research of the 1654th-XNUMXth centuries. And before that there was just Russia, consisting of many principalities, which, as well as the Kiev principality, were ruled by the Novgorod princes, but there was never a trace of Ukrainian princes, and some gangs led by the hetmans ran on the fragments of the Kiev principality, but the owners were Poles and Lithuanians until XNUMX.
                      11. 0
                        16 September 2020 19: 21
                        Do not substitute concepts, look at the pedigree of the Kiev princes and everything will become clear and understandable
                        Capital Kievgrad doesn't tell you about anything?
                      12. +1
                        16 September 2020 19: 51
                        Quote: Nestor
                        Do not substitute concepts, look at the pedigree of the Kiev princes and everything will become clear and understandable

                        Well, at least Prince Vladimir Baptist of Russia, Prince of Novgorod, Prince of Kiev, under whom the Baptism of Russia took place. He became prince of Novgorod in 970, seized the Kiev throne in 978, killing his brother Yaroslav, was the son of Prince of Novgorod Svyatoslav. And where are the Ukrainian princes, there simply could not be a trace of them.
                        Goodbye, I spent my working day, went home, see you tomorrow.
                      13. 0
                        16 September 2020 21: 03
                        For general education, read about the princes Kie, Askold and Dir, as well as the Prophetic Oleg
                        Have a good evening!
                      14. +2
                        17 September 2020 08: 45
                        Quote: Nestor
                        Askold and Dir, as well as the Prophetic Oleg

                        Correctly were the Vikings, who became princes of Novgorod, but not Ukrainian. The founder of the ancient Russian princely dynasty Rurik died in 879, having transferred power and care over the young Igor to his relative Oleg. When (882) Oleg left Novgorod and approached Kiev, where the Varangians Askold and Dir ruled, he cunningly lured the Kiev princes out of the city and ordered them to be killed in the name of Igor. But Svyatoslav Igorevich was Novgorod and the Kiev prince was already Russian. Read not the Ukrainian "manual" and books of the 19th century.
                      15. +1
                        18 September 2020 10: 07
                        Quote: Nestor
                        Capital Kievgrad doesn't tell you about anything?

                        Does capital Suzdal, Vladimir, Moscow tell you about anything?
                        The expression "Kievan Rus" was invented by historians only for the temporary gradation of the history of Rus. When the Grand Duke moved to Suzdal, the expression "Vladimir-Suzdal Rus" appeared, especially among historians. Does this mean that a new state has appeared on the political map? Not at all. Russia as it was and remained. Just another city became the capital. By analogy - Moscow - St. Petersburg, Petrograd - Moscow. So, dear, stop clucking about the so-called Kievan Rus. It was the same Russia, and not Russia-Ukraine.
                    2. +1
                      17 September 2020 17: 28
                      Here! And you say the memory is good laughing Laughing.
        2. +1
          16 September 2020 15: 02
          Joseph Vissarionovich was a Russian worse than you ... In spirit.
          1. 0
            16 September 2020 15: 08
            So I do not pretend to be "Russian" laughing
            1. -1
              16 September 2020 15: 12
              Papuan? Ali svidomo? Why then graze on the Russian site? Just come in to shit?
              1. +1
                16 September 2020 15: 31
                Don't poke your finger you break
                Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go
                Shit is your prerogative, but I have a different point of view
                1. -1
                  16 September 2020 15: 55
                  Quote: Nestor
                  Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go

                  Sorry, but no one has been listening to you for a long time "Meli Emelya, your week." And what you should do, you yourself know very well.
                  1. +1
                    16 September 2020 15: 56
                    Well, as always, you are a plug in any barrel laughing
                    1. +2
                      16 September 2020 17: 28
                      Well, as always, you are a plug in any barrel

                      laughing
                      We have expressions with a similar meaning:
                      On every edge of the tool! (Each pot has parsley!)
                    2. -2
                      16 September 2020 18: 08
                      Quote: Nestor
                      Well, as always, you are a plug in any barrel

                      Sorry, but you Ukrainians, you must always put in place when you swear at someone else's.
                      1. 0
                        16 September 2020 18: 21
                        Quite the opposite, as long as you look at someone else's
        3. -1
          16 September 2020 18: 57
          Quote: Nestor
          Here Dzhugashvili "calibrated" Russian

          Who gave you Western Ukraine, Do you want to return it to Poland if Stalin is so bad?
          1. 0
            16 September 2020 19: 13
            Do you want to give up the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin to Japan?
            And Western Ukraine was part of Kievan Rus even before the invasion of the Mongol-Tatars
      2. 0
        16 September 2020 16: 44
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And the broadest Ukrainian is Zelensky. Those are the cross, I won't lie.

        Not ... there is another candidate:
        1. -1
          16 September 2020 17: 33
          We do not divide people by nationality
          1. +1
            16 September 2020 18: 10
            Quote: Nestor
            We do not divide people by nationality

            And who is shouting "moskolyak to gilyak"?
    2. +1
      16 September 2020 13: 43
      Quote: Nestor
      Shoigu is a true Slav
      He is Russian, this is the main thing.
  9. -2
    16 September 2020 12: 43
    Yes, only for money, brothers were brothers, pay attention ...
  10. -2
    16 September 2020 13: 00
    Serbia makes it worse only for itself, without even indicating participation even with a military band or a platoon of honor guard.
    History teaches nothing ...
  11. +1
    16 September 2020 13: 04
    And to hell with them, with these brothers. There were three, there were two left, the third was making a fool. And the rest are so cunning. We are no strangers, back to back and away we go. And don’t be offended then that they are not considered their own.
  12. +3
    16 September 2020 13: 18
    "Belgrade's refusal to participate in the military maneuvers starting in Belarus with a more than eloquent name, which followed almost at the last minute, left an extremely unpleasant aftertaste." And Belgrade did not have an extremely unpleasant aftertaste after the pearl from Zakharova? everything is fine.
    1. +1
      16 September 2020 13: 42
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      Maybe someone to follow the language and everything was fine.
      I think no. Vucic is dependent on the EU and its decisions. They told him "do not rock the boat while we are working tirelessly against the Republic of Belarus", and he refused. smile
    2. 0
      18 September 2020 10: 16
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      And Belgrade did not have an extremely unpleasant aftertaste after the pearl from Zakharova? Maybe someone can follow the language and everything was fine.

      Let's be fair. Zakharova did not act diplomatically, it is true. But she is, in fact, RIGHT !!! Therefore, she retained her place of work.
  13. 0
    16 September 2020 13: 40
    Belgrade's refusal to participate in military maneuvers starting in Belarus with a more than eloquent name that followed, almost at the last minute, left an extremely unpleasant aftertaste.
    What did they expect in general? Somehow I don’t remember any brotherly deeds from the Serbs, I don’t remember at all! At various degrees of the onset of any crisis, they glorified themselves only by shouting "Russia help". During both world wars, they fought against Russia. And there are enough ordinary people supporting our state in other countries as well. There is little in common in languages, but this is also in non-fraternal countries. So the very frequent mention of some brothers suggests thinking about the imposition of such "relatives" on our people by force.
  14. 0
    16 September 2020 13: 40
    As for the reduced number of participants, we can only regret that for some government leaders the words about brotherhood are empty sounds.
    It would be very useful for Vucic to see what the "multi-vector" leads to! Interestingly, the desire to sit on two chairs occurs only among leaders, size XXXL, or all? Yanukovych, Lukashenko, Vuchich .... smile
  15. -3
    16 September 2020 14: 04
    The oldest profession has become the lot of many countries that do not have the spirit to defend their sovereignty.
  16. -2
    16 September 2020 18: 19
    Serbia is not an ally as long as it is surrounded. And the servicemen of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus are Russians. "Slavs" are Poles with Czechs.
  17. -1
    16 September 2020 18: 36
    Nothing, only soon, in your own Russia, you will play soldiers ...
    1. +2
      18 September 2020 10: 21
      Quote: Izotron 3-150
      Nothing, only soon, in your own Russia, you will play soldiers ...

      Never mind, soon you, without permission from Fashington, even on your own territory will not be able to play soldiers.
      1. 0
        19 September 2020 00: 38
        If only, beyond the eastern border, no one would cry ...

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