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Ukrainian general and deputy: Tests were completed in July, and there are still no Neptune complexes in the state defense order

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The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine at the beginning of the year did not include the Neptune missile systems in the GOZ-2020 (state defense order). At the same time, the department assured that immediately after receiving the results of state tests, a contract would be signed for at least a division of this new technology. But the leadership of the department did not keep its promise - "Neptune" is still absent from the SDO.


This was told by the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Mikhail Zabrodsky.

The deputy notes that although the testing of the complexes ended in July, no steps are being taken to supply them to the troops:

It's September, the tests were completed in July - and there is still no Neptune complex in the state defense order!

This means that even if a decree is adopted on amending the state defense order, the state supply contract can be concluded no earlier than November-December.

The general accuses the defense department not only of delaying the financing of Neptune. He also claims that he has information about the decision to replace the domestic base vehicles of the KrAZ-7634 complex with Czech Tatra vehicles. The use of equipment from the Czech Republic, which is twice as expensive as KrAZ vehicles, will not only increase budget expenditures, but also hit the families of Kremenchuk machine builders and almost the only Ukrainian machine-building plant.

ZhK-360MTS "Neptune" is a Ukrainian-made low-altitude cruise missile, developed by KB "Luch" and designed to engage sea and ground targets at a distance of up to 300 kilometers. According to experts, the minimum requirement of the Ukrainian Navy for these complexes is at least three divisions.
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  1. zwlad
    zwlad 15 September 2020 11: 42
    +3
    He also claims that he has information about the decision to replace the domestic base vehicles of the KrAZ-7634 complex with Czech Tatra vehicles. The use of equipment from the Czech Republic, which is twice as expensive as KrAZ vehicles, will not only increase budget expenditures, but also hit the families of Kremenchuk machine builders and almost the only Ukrainian machine-building plant.

    Come on! What a trifle! Eurointegration, too! You were so striving for this! So reap the benefits.
    1. Eldorado
      Eldorado 15 September 2020 11: 51
      +6
      Thanks to the Maidan, KrAZ is now on the verge of bankruptcy and closure.
      So they are converting the Neptune chassis to the Tatra.
      1. Temples
        Temples 15 September 2020 13: 20
        0
        there are still no Neptune complexes in the state defense order

        It's just .... no money.
        But you hold on wassat
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 15 September 2020 14: 08
          -1
          ZhK-360MTS "Neptune" is a Ukrainian-made low-altitude cruise missile, developed by KB "Luch"

          IT IS ALREADY SECRETLY MAKING - RITTING CASES, IN THE MINES OF THE ZAP REGIONALS ..
          ONLY DURING WAR, WE WILL SEE IT BEFORE WE DIE. KOKHLI WILL WIN MOSCALS, AS AND BEFORE UNDER ILOVAYSKY AND KONOTOP.
          Turchinov is more cunning than Shoigu and SVR - ours have not yet found the Neptunov underground factories
  2. Egoza
    Egoza 15 September 2020 11: 45
    +1
    Don't worry, "Pan General". As soon as they find buyers for your "Neptune", they will immediately redeem them. To send directly to the buyer directly!
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 15 September 2020 11: 49
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      As soon as they find buyers for your "Neptune"

      Will they find it?
      1. bayard
        bayard 15 September 2020 12: 09
        +7
        Turkey was interested, but between them there was a kind of transfer of technologies, so the Turks make their own analogue, and the uk & @ ry supplies them with spare parts.
        The Belarusians were also interested, and they also collaborated, but now EVERYTHING is visible request , love has passed.
        1. iouris
          iouris 15 September 2020 12: 13
          +1
          Quote: bayard
          they are supplied with spare parts

          Not "spare parts", but components.
          1. bayard
            bayard 15 September 2020 12: 43
            0
            Quote: iouris
            Not "spare parts", but components.

            Well, yes, but first of all - the engines. The Turks also buy from them for unmanned aerial vehicles.
            1. iouris
              iouris 15 September 2020 12: 48
              -2
              Not unmanned, but unmanned (voiced - voiceless consonants).
              1. bayard
                bayard 15 September 2020 12: 58
                +4
                Young man, these spelling rules were changed in 1983, so that instead of negating "WITHOUT", the Russian-speaking electorate either glorified the "devil":
                - devil (s) glorious
                - imp (h) final
                - demon (s) intelligent ...
                , or simply remembered him in any case, writing these and similar words.
                In 1983 I graduated from high school, and just before the very graduation, all of us graduates were gathered and under the record were given new spelling rules, having revised all Russian spelling and spelling.
                I have ignored this perverted innovation all my life. And what you quoted:
                Quote: iouris
                (voiced - voiceless consonants).

                nothing more than the tricks of perverts over the Russian language. request
                Sorry, but I was taught the CORRECT Russian language at school.
                And the language of the ancestors must be respected.
                1. g1washntwn
                  g1washntwn 15 September 2020 13: 50
                  -2
                  Quote: bayard
                  I've ignored this innovation all my life

                  You are probably baptized with two fingers, so why is there, ignore all the achievements of science and technology, why did you stop at letters? lol
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 15 September 2020 14: 56
                    +3
                    Quote: g1washntwn
                    You are probably baptized with two fingers

                    And you, Zhora, are you sure that our ancestors were baptized by two, three, or something at all?
                    Look at the engravings of the 17th, 18th, early 19th century, are there many crosses on the "churches" there?
                    And are they really crosses?
                    After all, I am an expert in long-range radar and an officer of the combat command of an air defense unit in the past, and when in our military university we passed antenna systems ... of different polarization, then we used tree-like and fractal antennas, and "classical crosses", including including "Orthodox" - with a slanting crossbar below, taught. lol
                    And knowledge of the CORRECT spelling of the Native Language did not interfere with me in my life, service and work.
                    Maybe because I was surrounded by people who received a similar - correct education in the Russian language.
                    And how new languages ​​and rules for them are created, you don't have to go far to see - here is the former Ukraine. There, a new language has been invented since 1992, and the spelling rules for it.
                    And so it happened in my life that I knew some of those involved in the creation of this "language" and the history of its creation from the authors themselves. lol
                    There are no complaints about you personally and your generation, you know what you have been taught. But this knowledge is distorted by an evil intention, therefore, in my practice, I have both used and will use the rules of spelling and spelling taught to me / us BEFORE distortions by perverts.
                    And to
                    Quote: g1washntwn
                    advances in science and technology,

                    the spelling rules don't exactly apply.
                    Modern "engineers" with knowledge of the "correct" spelling today cannot even master the assembly of a banal An-2. lol Ten years of struggling soon.
                    Yes, and you, Zhora - in the Washington region ... problems with education and that ... sadder ... repeat
                    bully
                    1. g1washntwn
                      g1washntwn 15 September 2020 15: 14
                      -1
                      Consumerism does not require knowledge of quantum mechanics, it is ubiquitous.
                      And about the evil intentions of the demon / without you throw ... into the river, along with the "devil's iPhone" wink
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 15 September 2020 15: 17
                        +2
                        Quote: g1washntwn
                        together with the "devil's iPhone

                        Yes, I try not to use it. A desktop computer is more convenient for me. And the phone is interesting to me as a phone, not a pocket computer.
                        All these toys are for young people.
                2. sgapich
                  sgapich 16 September 2020 22: 36
                  0
                  Quote: bayard
                  Young man, these spelling rules were changed in 1983, so that instead of negating "WITHOUT", the Russian-speaking electorate either glorified the "devil":
                  - devil (s) glorious
                  - imp (h) final
                  - demon (s) intelligent ...

                  Nevertheless, here is a picture from the "Explanatory Dictionary of the Russian Language" edited by Professor Dmitry Nikolaevich Ushakov, published by the State Institute "Soviet Encyclopedia" in 1935.
            2. venik
              venik 15 September 2020 18: 02
              0
              Quote: bayard
              first of all - engines. The Turks also buy from them for unmanned aerial vehicles.

              ======
              Yah? belay AND FOR WHAT "bnЗpilots "they put them ???
              1. bayard
                bayard 16 September 2020 04: 49
                +1
                Yes, in their own way - in Turkish. They have had joint programs on this matter for a long time.
                Have you not heard?
                The Zaporozhye Motor Sich was still the flagship of the Soviet aviation engine building. And to this day, through gaskets, Russia also extracts engines from there - so this year, several sets for An-124, Be-200 and Mi-26M were obtained ... and then from the Sumerians laughing the scandal happened.

                What about
                Quote: venik
                "bnZPilots"

                I already unsubscribed above.
                ... and your spelling misfire ...
                1. venik
                  venik 16 September 2020 14: 22
                  0
                  Quote: bayard
                  .. and your spelling misfire ...

                  =======
                  "Misfires" - just never happened!
                  Just a quote "illiterate expressions "!!! request
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 15 September 2020 12: 13
          +2
          Let no one buy anything from them. They've messed up with supplies more than once.
          They took money, the goods were not delivered
        3. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 15 September 2020 12: 26
          +2
          Quote: bayard
          Turkey was interested in

          And why should they actually. Kind of like an anti-ship Catfish in their series. Moreover, it is more interesting than the Soviet copy of the Harpoon of the 80s ...
          1. bayard
            bayard 15 September 2020 12: 41
            +2
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            Kind of like an anti-ship Catfish in their series.

            If you are talking about what the Turks have recently experienced, then it appeared thanks to Ukrainian components and technology transfer. And their characteristics are similar to "Neptune". So the Turks don't need a ready-made product for nothing, but engines and components are another matter.
            And about the "more interesting", so the rocket is slightly heavier, a little more farther, and a little more powerful than its warhead. In the same way as Neptune. The engine made it possible to make the X-35 more powerful, and they did (and the Turks too).
            Well, after all, the border of the 80s and 90s from 2020 to equal ... But the "Uranus" is lighter and the same aircraft will be able to pull more of them per flight.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 16 September 2020 11: 51
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      As soon as they find buyers for your "Neptune"

      Who needs such old stuff. In the modern world, it is no longer relevant. Moreover, there is no technological base for production in Ukraine for a long time. I am already silent about money. We riveted several pieces from Soviet stocks, reported "proudly" and hello. They are removing the Soviet reserve (what was not sold and what did not rot) and the uroarmy will remain with only old machine guns. Why, they have not even been able to establish the production of conventional cartridges so far. And there, missiles. laughing
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  4. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 15 September 2020 11: 48
    +2
    The use of equipment from the Czech Republic, which is twice as expensive as KrAZ trucks, will not only increase budget expenditures,

    Budget cut goes in all directions laughing
    1. bayard
      bayard 15 September 2020 12: 11
      +3
      It’s just that the bankrupt KrAZ is not able to produce something more worthwhile. It just can't.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 15 September 2020 12: 14
        0
        Then why was it originally installed on KrAZ?
        1. bayard
          bayard 15 September 2020 12: 47
          +2
          We bet on sho boulo. For tests, it seems to have fit, but for serial products, for military operation, something more reliable is needed.
  5. demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig 15 September 2020 11: 55
    +5
    How can these idiots want to hit Russia! To die quickly? Apparently, they are not enough to shoot themselves.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 15 September 2020 12: 04
      +1
      hit Russia!
      Do you think your gut isn't thin?
    2. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 15 September 2020 13: 01
      +3
      Duck is the whole point - to pit Russians against Russians.
      The centuries-old dream of Europeans and not only.
  6. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 September 2020 11: 59
    +4
    laughing There are Kremlin spies around, Putin's agents around! Or maybe a pittance? Or does the "novelty" suck?
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 September 2020 12: 03
    +3
    But the leadership of the department did not keep their promise
    Can someone tell me when someone in power in Ukraine fulfilled their promises and obligations? That's just it. The general was probably hungover and suddenly remembered that the APU had promised something.
  8. Andobor
    Andobor 15 September 2020 12: 03
    +3
    What rockets?
    Ukraine is a completely impoverished country with a GDP per capita less than that of the Papuans:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
  9. GREG68
    GREG68 15 September 2020 12: 03
    +1
    Your masters will tell you what to put into service and what not.
  10. Rubi0
    Rubi0 15 September 2020 12: 05
    +3
    The general would have been better off not worrying about crashes, but about the fact that his department is devouring 6-7% of GDP, even by NATO standards they eat it in two mouths.
  11. lego2
    lego2 15 September 2020 12: 14
    0
    Cool propaganda in Ukraine, even their generals cannot distinguish truth from fiction, although of course they are also people and they want to believe in the best.
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  13. APASUS
    APASUS 15 September 2020 12: 23
    +4
    There is a great suspicion that the Americans are in charge of the purchase of weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and they finance this business. That's why everything is simple, for the Ukrainian Navy they will buy the American AGM / RGM / UGM-84 Harpoon system. And Ukrainians can develop at least an atomic bomb, but on their funds
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 15 September 2020 13: 53
      0
      About Yes. It's all about "NATO standards." And the fact that "Neptune" after the sad experience with the mortar "Hammer" is the tenth thing.
  14. Nevolnik
    Nevolnik 15 September 2020 12: 23
    +2
    It's September, the tests were completed in July - and there is still no Neptune complex in the state defense order!

    Who's guilty ? Of course damned ..))) Where did the complex go, a mystery wassat
    Some warrant officer is building an extension to his hut, tormented by the thought that he has taken little ...
  15. askort154
    askort154 15 September 2020 12: 24
    0
    The use of equipment from the Czech Republic, which is twice as expensive as KrAZ trucks, will not only increase budget expenditures, but also hit the families of Kremenchuk machine builders and almost the only Ukrainian machine-building plant.

    The deputy general is clearly not aware of the state of the automotive industry in Ukraine.
    Soviet factories in Ukraine, which produce the lion's share of buses, cars and trucks, in modern Ukraine have been "decommunized".
    It's not a problem with cars - all dump sites are being razed out of the EU, but with buses and trucks, it's just "crazy". We have to buy even for the army, for budget crumbs.
  16. KCA
    KCA 15 September 2020 12: 29
    +1
    What serious experts, three divisions of "Neptuns" are needed, exactly three or more, then they will successfully sink the entire Black Sea Fleet of Russia, including the Novorossiysk submarine brigade, and after the first missile on the ships of the Black Sea Fleet, over all "Neptunes" and other things, everything that can fly , from "Iskander" to TU-22M3, for sure all the storage periods of the Kh-22 have expired, but here it will be possible to dispose with such a noise
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 15 September 2020 13: 04
      0
      That’s why the whole geyropa will rejoice and clap their hands with joy when the Russians in the Russians begin to shout to everyone “that can fly”.
      1. KCA
        KCA 15 September 2020 13: 43
        0
        Only on the one hand, the Russians and not only, who have sworn allegiance to Russia, but on the other hand, who have sworn allegiance to Banderostan that they want to, they will push for that, they pity the poor, treat the sick, but what about idiots?
  17. master 52
    master 52 15 September 2020 12: 48
    0
    I think it will not be this order.
  18. Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 15 September 2020 12: 52
    0
    Favorite Ukrainian technology, to create a single copy, having milked the budget beforehand, to milk it a second time, like launching it into a batch and putting it on the shelf, referring to objective reasons .... This is what Antonov always sins, this is what the Kharkiv plant sins, others are not lagging behind .. And no one is specifically interested in either the performance characteristics of the technique or their future fate. Under the next president, they will repaint and repeat
  19. Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 15 September 2020 13: 29
    0
    And then the peremogue again grew into zeal ... As they say, stability is a sign of skill laughing
  20. BAI
    BAI 15 September 2020 13: 35
    0
    As far as I understand, the problem is not with the truck, but with the production of solid fuel.
  21. Alexy
    Alexy 15 September 2020 14: 19
    +1
    It seems to me alone that this complex looks somehow ridiculous?
    I blinded him from what was.
  22. bubasa
    bubasa 15 September 2020 14: 27
    0
    and that the Papuans will be able to use the development of the USSR? there, even for testing, the old people were apparently dragged. Because svidomye looking at the devices started "Sala U" and "Heroiam Sala", but the rocket did not start laughing