Germany announced the presence of "Novichok" in repeated samples of Navalny

Russian blogger and opposition politician Alexei Navalny was poisoned with poison from the Novichok group, this was confirmed by the results of studies of three independent laboratories, the German Cabinet of Ministers said in a statement.

According to the statement, the results of Navalny's samples, the study of which was carried out in three independent laboratories in Sweden and France, showed the presence of a substance from the Novichok group. In this regard, Berlin again calls on Moscow to provide an explanation for the poisoning of Navalny.

On this basis, the OPCW (request - approx.) Took samples of Mr. Navalny and took the necessary steps to be examined in reference laboratories. The federal government (...) requested (...) an independent recheck of German data based on new samples from Mr. Navalny. Now there are the results of these tests in special laboratories in France and Sweden and they prove the German data. (...) We again call on Russia to explain what happened

- declared in the Cabinet of Ministers of Germany.

Earlier, the German government said that it did not intend to transfer the results of samples taken from Navalny directly to Russia, since Russian representatives are part of the OPCW and can get acquainted with the results there.

A spokesman for the German Defense Ministry confirmed that the samples were transferred to the OPCW, of which Russia is a member

- said in the message of the Cabinet.

Recall that the data on Navalny's poisoning by Novichok appeared only after he was delivered to a German clinic; Russian doctors did not find any signs of poisoning.

Comments

[Obliterator]

No, well, this "Novice" is some absolutely worthless poison, since he cannot send the second person in a row to the grave.

[Temples]

If they were found in repeated tests, it means that the Fritzes had "trashed" the sisyan.

[Obliterator]

Quote: Temples

So sisyan were trawled in germany.

I am more interested in whose "bright" head thought of giving it to Germany. Let it be treated in the Russian Federation, and no one would be able to talk about some kind of "Novichek". And when he is with them, it is easy for them and without any evidence to drive away any nonsense.

[Temples]

Quote: Obliterator

And when he is with them, it is easy for them and without any evidence to drive away any nonsense.

Who cares where he is?
They are driving a blizzard for their inhabitants.
Do not be fooled by this shnyaga and all business.

Most of the Fritzes hate Russians.

And we have nothing to love them for. They killed tens of millions of Russians.

So that they would go with the shisyan to hell.

[Obliterator]

Quote: Temples

Who cares where he is?
They are driving a blizzard for the townsfolk.

Big difference. If he was in a Russian hospital, then these statements from Western journalists about the newcomer would not cost anything at all, even for ordinary people.

[Lexus]

So think about who the "Russian masters of life" are, why they are in a hurry to fulfill any whim of the "collective West", often to the detriment of Russia and at the expense of its citizens. Wish you luck!

[Temples]

Quote: Obliterator

Big difference. If he was lying

Remember Skripal?
They had that torso (skripal).
They announced that the Russians had allegedly poisoned him.
As a result, there is no skripal, no evidence. There are sanctions.

They can also "poison" anyone they want on their territory and hysteria again that the Russians have poisoned.
The result will be the same.

It does not matter who and where "poisoned".
The main thing is who "poisoned".

On this there is no difference.

As a result, there is no war. And the rest is husk. Fuck.

[Tatyana]

There is no faith in Germany, namely the results of Navalny's bioanalysis, made in the laboratory of the German Bundeswehr, and cannot be for several reasons.
1. It is known that "Russian" "Novichok" is called only from the homeland of his invention, while it is successfully produced in Great Britain, the USA, Germany, etc. - generally in 5 western countries. In this case, the country of origin of the "Novice" can be determined by the degree of its purification on the national equipment of this country.
Here It is this information that Germany - as NATO countries - is hiding under the secrecy label.
Therefore, Russia needs to boldly counter directly accuse the same Germany or Great Britain / the United States of poisoning by them Navalny "Novichok" foreign - German, British, American, etc. - production. Whose "Novichok" turns out to be - that country and the poisoner of Novalny.
The Russian Federation has all the grounds for this.

2. A close companion-girlfriend of Navalny, who was the only one of 6 of his companions who deviated from the testimony of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs about the alleged "poisoning" of Navalny, fled from investigators, secretly flew to Germany with Navalny on a German plane ..
It is known that this "girlfriend" of Navalny resides in London and is the link between Navalny, Khodorkovsky and foreign intelligence. It was she who supplied Navalny with materials for his revealing videos about high-ranking officials in Russia. from British and American intelligence agencies. All of her photographs and other informational materials about her have been thoroughly cleaned up on the Internet.
Simply put, Navalny's girlfriend surrounded by Navalny himself is a British and American SPY. And our investigators of the Ministry of Internal Affairs simply let her out of Russia. Now no longer a witness, but a suspect in the poisoning of Navalny, if there really was such a thing, as they say, catch Russia like the wind in a field!

3. Merkel, with a bad game, tries to abandon the "SP-2" with someone else's hands, while maintaining the "face" and "honor of the uniform"

[astepanov]

Quote: Tatiana

1. It is known that "Novichok" is called "Russian" only from the homeland of his invention, while it is successfully produced in Great Britain, the USA, Germany, etc. - in general, in 5 Western countries. In this case, the country of origin of the "Novice" can be determined by the degree of its purification on the national equipment of this country.

Can you ask a question? Who told you that Novice is made in these countries? And where to get samples to determine the degree of purification? Just don't talk about Navalny's analyzes: no degree of purification can be determined from them if you understand anything in chemical analysis. This is where I disagree with you.
Now - about the "Novice" authentically. And there is very little reliable. It is known that "Novice" refers to a group of about 60 OM with an alkyl fluorophosphonitrile nucleus and various substituents associated with it. They are recognized by this core. On March 25, 2018, the head of the laboratory for chemical and analytical control of the scientific center of the Ministry of Defense, Doctor of Chemical Sciences Igor Rybalchenko, said that back in 1998, the chemical formula and mass spectrum of the substance A-234 were discovered by Russian specialists in the Spectral Library of the US National Institute of Standards and Technology. They were brought to the base by Dennis K. Rohrbauch, a chemist at the US Army's Chemical Research and Development Center. The same formula is available in the database of the British Royal Society of Chemistry. However, as early as 2008, this NIST # 226889 compound was removed.
In September 2020, information emerged that substances from this group were being developed in the United States in the 1970s, which makes the term "Newbie" even less definite.
It is believed that some of the "Newbies" are several times more toxic than Vx gases. For Vx, the lethal dose is 70 μg / kg, i.e. per person about 0,005 g. So, for Navalny, IF he was poisoned, less than 0,005 g of poison was consumed, because he survived. "Newbies" are perfectly absorbed by biological tissues (otherwise they would not work), and their concentration in bioassays is so negligible that no hospital will be able to detect them: only mass spectrometry, the same one that is used in the search for anabolic steroids in athletes, allows to find them, and such devices are useless in the hospital.
The fact that Navalny was sent to Germany without further ado, and even after Britain's provocation with the Skripals, indicates that the Russian authorities were not involved in the poisoning. But the synthesis of "Novichok" is not so difficult, and the same Khodorkovsky and other local rascals, as well as rubbish could have been delivered from abroad, could have organized it. They could take advantage of the situation and spoil samples in Germany. In general, the matter is extremely murky and politically motivated. It should be recalled that in Germany they are traditionally strong in the development of poison: I had a book das Militterhcemie in the seventies, there were already described analogs of "Novichok". Such "charms" as sarin, soman, herd and the Zyklon-B, which was used to kill people in concentration camps, were developed in Germany before the war, and V-gases were British development. Who shouts loudest "Stop thief"? That's just it.

[astepanov]

By the way, Khodorkovsky is a chemist by training and, apparently, is not bad. In Russia, before his landing, he organized a very well-equipped center for chemical research, geared towards petrochemistry. So organizing a synthesis for him is a snap, and finding a Judas for its implementation in a country with impoverished scientists is easy.

[Shahno]

// But the synthesis of "Novichok" is not so difficult, and the same Khodorkovsky and other local rascals, as well as rubbish could have been delivered from abroad, could organize it. //
That is, you still confirm that to deny the poisoning of Navalny chemical. a drug-analogue of the notorious beginner is impossible. So why is there such a judgment here sometimes, in the commentary centers, that they gave a conclusion (and dear ones) “lie” and engage in fraud. There is evidence that they are biased ... Or what?
Ps. By the way, Israeli specialists, on the contrary, supported the Omsk colleagues.

[astepanov]

Yes, I think that Navalny could have been poisoned. And further questions are obvious: was he really poisoned? By whom? Where: in Russia or in Germany?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Tatiana

There is no faith in Germany, namely the results of Navalny's bioanalysis, made in the laboratory of the German Bundeswehr, and cannot be for several reasons.
1. It is known that "Russian" "Novichok" is called only from the homeland of his invention, while it is successfully produced in Great Britain, the USA, Germany, etc. - generally in 5 western countries. In this case, the country of origin of the "Novice" can be determined by the degree of its purification on the national equipment of this country.
Here It is this information that Germany - as NATO countries - is hiding under the secrecy label.
Therefore, Russia needs to boldly counter directly accuse the same Germany or Great Britain / the United States of poisoning by them Navalny "Novichok" foreign - German, British, American, etc. - production. Whose "Novichok" turns out to be - that country and the poisoner of Novalny.
The Russian Federation has all the grounds for this.

2. A close companion-girlfriend of Navalny, who was the only one of 6 of his companions who deviated from the testimony of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs about the alleged "poisoning" of Navalny, fled from investigators, secretly flew to Germany with Navalny on a German plane ..
It is known that this "girlfriend" of Navalny resides in London and is the link between Navalny, Khodorkovsky and foreign intelligence. It was she who supplied Navalny with materials for his revealing videos about high-ranking officials in Russia. from British and American intelligence agencies. All of her photographs and other informational materials about her have been thoroughly cleaned up on the Internet.
Simply put, Navalny's girlfriend surrounded by Navalny himself is a British and American SPY. And our investigators of the Ministry of Internal Affairs simply let her out of Russia. Now no longer a witness, but a suspect in the poisoning of Navalny, if there really was such a thing, as they say, catch Russia like the wind in a field!

3. Merkel, with a bad game, tries to abandon the "SP-2" with someone else's hands, while maintaining the "face" and "honor of the uniform"

For me, the only question is, are these exposing materials about Russian officials and leaders true? If true, then what questions to Navalny? By the way, he was in our hospital with what diagnosis? And who poisoned him in the kpz? Questions, questions ...

[Obliterator]

Quote: Temples

Remember Skripal?
They had that torso (skripal).
They announced that the Russians had allegedly poisoned him.
As a result, there is no skripal, no evidence. There are sanctions.

They can also "poison" anyone they want on their territory and hysteria again that the Russians have poisoned.
The result will be the same.

It does not matter who and where "poisoned".
The main thing is who "poisoned".

On this there is no difference.

I repeat to you once again that there is a difference, because when they have it in their hands, they can make any statements. And if he turned out to be locked up in one of the hospitals, without access to foreigners and dubious personalities there, then nothing but speculation. Can you catch the difference between the actual assumptions and the documented conclusions of the examinations from scientists?

[Kart]

Quote: lexus

So think about who the "Russian masters of life" are, why they are in a hurry to fulfill any whim of the "collective West", often to the detriment of Russia and at the expense of its citizens. Wish you luck!

It is about this that the so-called. West. In addition to weapons at the borders, they work inside, they offer to "think".
Do you understand with them?

[mavrus]

For our inhabitants, they do not cost anything anyway, and for the brainwashing of the western man in the street, their mass media absolutely does not matter where this Sisyan is.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Temples

They are driving a blizzard for their inhabitants.
Do not be fooled by this shnyaga and all business.

As if the townsfolk in Germany care about Navalny. The German lives his own life, and he does not care where and who the Lotsiks are, they have a headache from migrants.

[archergoo]

do not drive snowstorms, normal Germans respect Russia, the trouble is that they are now a minority, tk. over the years of the occupation of Germany, the media controlled by the globalists have brainwashed many, as, by the way, in other countries, and Russia is no exception. And historically Germany was the main ally of Russia, the trouble is that the hardworking Germans turned out to be too suggestible, the despicable Anglo-Saxons have always used this.

[Motorist]

Quote: Temples

Most of the Fritzes hate Russians.

At first I wanted to argue, then I thought that I would spend a useless mnogabukf, and just "minus" you. Do not exact!

[Olgovich]

Quote: Obliterator

I am more interested in whose "bright" head thought of giving it to Germany. Let it be treated in the Russian Federation, and no one would be able to talk about some kind of "Novichek".

1. There would be a stench that "hide" the poisoning: if they don't let it out, then they poisoned it.

2. They would still insist on the tests and would still "find"

3. The OPCW after recognizing the "use" of chemical weapons in Syria (even without going there) is NOTHING.

4. Russia in a note to the German Ambassador clearly stated:

lack of the above materials will regarded as a refusal of the Federal Government of Germany to establish the truth as part of an objective investigation, and his previous and further actions in connection with A. Navalny - as a gross hostile provocation against Russia, fraught with consequences for Russian-German relations, as well as a serious complication of the international situation.

4. Where in France and Sweden ... Newbie? Or what did they compare the bulk samples with?

[vic02]

Where in France and Sweden ... Newbie? Or what did they compare the bulk samples with?

Read the article carefully. Poisons from this group belong to organophosphates and have long been known throughout the world. If you have not yet, read, for example, this one: https://www.popmech.ru/science/482331-kak-spastis-ot-novichka-yady-i-protivoyadiya/ Their production for research purposes is not prohibited. More details about the "newbie", etc. binary OB and how you could get it and its analogs read for example here. https://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/6263068 The toxicity of this type of OM can vary significantly.
And as for complications in relations, even if they were already complicated specifically for the Russian ruling elite, and not for the country, by cutting off the flows of "dough" from Russia to offshores and squeezing the foreign property of Russian officials.

[Olgovich]

Quote: vic02

Poisons from this group belong to organophosphates and long known all over the world... If you haven't yet, read, for example, this: https://www.popmech.ru/science/482331-kak-spastis-ot-novichka-yady-i-protivoyadiya/

What are you saying?

What's new in this article?

Quote: vic02

Their production for research purposes is not prohibited.

So tell me how in Germany, France and Sweden they set up its production for "research" purposes.

Quote: vic02

. Details about the "newbie", etc. binary OB and how you could get it and its analogs read for example here. https://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/6263068

What nonsense, there are generally two lines

[vic02]

there are two lines

that is, you haven't read more than two lines? Sad

[Obliterator]

Quote: Olgovich

1. There would be a stench that "hide" the poisoning: if they don't let it out, then they poisoned it.

2. They would still insist on the tests and would still "find"

1) Don't give a damn about this stink, because they stink so much. It's even worse now, because we gave it to them ourselves.
2) We do not owe them anything. This is our citizen, and our internal affair.

[Roman13579]

You don’t understand ..))
Now, if he was like Skripal, he was trawling there with them .. then it would be possible to yell - bring him back to us here .. on all TV channels tell that we are not given a person and are not shown him, etc.
Well, since Lyoshyk was trawling here with us, in order to be able to spit on the West, and bl-e about violations, he had to be sent there first ..

Now that this Trojan horse has been abandoned in Germany, the Nashin authorities have all their hands untied .. you can blame the West for not returning it to us, and for poisoning it themselves, and in general, whatever ..))

[halpat]

Quote: Obliterator

Quote: Temples

So sisyan were trawled in germany.

I am more interested in whose "bright" head thought of giving it to Germany. Let it be treated in the Russian Federation, and no one would be able to talk about some kind of "Novichek". And when he is with them, it is easy for them and without any evidence to drive away any nonsense.

The one to whom it occurred to him has already received money and gratitude from the corresponding department of the Washington regional committee.
Sits and, quietly rejoicing, waits for the opportunity to dump beyond the limits of 1/6 of the earth's land.

[Roman13579]

It's funny .. and here Washington is to blame ..))
Ours gave permission to fly .. and it was clearly not some head doctor of the Omsk hospital .. But the Washington regional committee is again to blame ..))

Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who is in a coma at the BSMP-1 hospital in Omsk, was allowed to be transported to Berlin for treatment. This was reported on Friday evening, August 21, by the Omsk online edition "City 55" with reference to the head physician of the hospital, Alexander Murakhovsky.

"The team (of German doctors who arrived in Omsk on the night of August 21 to take Navalny for treatment in Germany. - Ed.) Considered the patient transportable, possible for transportation. They guaranteed that they would take him to the specified destination," the newspaper quotes Murakhovsky. "The observation of the patient has been stable for some time, and, having a request from relatives to allow transportation somewhere, we made a decision that we do not object to his transfer to another hospital, which will be indicated to us by relatives," added the head physician of the Omsk hospital.

Earlier, lawyer Pavel Chikov said that the ECHR confirmed the receipt of a complaint by Alexei Navalny's associates for the ban on his transportation for medical treatment abroad, and the press secretary of the Navalny Foundation for the Fight against Corruption (FBK) Kira Yarmysh wrote on her Twitter page that "negotiations about the transportation of Alexei got off the ground. " "It is likely that Navalny will now be transferred," she added.

German doctors, who flew to Omsk last night to take Russian politician Alexei Navalny to Berlin for treatment, believe that he is in good enough condition to be transported by air. This was announced on August 21 by the German foundation Cinema for Peace, which sent a plane with doctors for Navalny from Germany to Russia.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Halpat

from the corresponding department of the Washington regional committee.

Oh, not Washington.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Obliterator

I am more interested in whose "bright" head thought of giving it to Germany. Let it be treated like this in the Russian Federation,

Indeed, it was necessary to transport him to the toxicology department of the Sklifosovsky Research Institute.
They would have put me on my feet and published the diagnosis.

[halpat]

But someone made a decision and said: Send.
Loaned?
Or was this someone convinced that there would be no problem?
After all, they were trying to transport something clearly in order to find a "newcomer", as it turns out now.
Or was it ... um ... a collegiate decision?

[Sibguest]

Do not go to Fritsev's grandmother: either they themselves once again rolled this "lesovichka", or after the sauerkraut with sausages, gases hit the head and the samples were beguiled.

[hagen]

I spoke about this for a long time. It is necessary to send samples of the environment from Omsk to the same laboratories and include our experts in the commission. Then compare the results. It's elementary ... And besides, the opinions of their experts are not given anywhere. Politicians carry the whole blizzard. And their opinion is not covered either by everyday logic or by criminal legislation. They lied from three boxes, unleashed wars, killed millions of people, but did not even receive a fine ... What faith do they have ?!

[Roman13579]

It is necessary to send samples of the environment from Omsk to the same laboratories and include our experts in the commission

It was not for this that our Leshiks were sent to the Germans, so that later samples from Omsk with our own experts could be sent there ..))

It’s possible to go so far as to sit with amers at the same table, and in half an hour find out who shot down the Boeing .. But then everyone will get bored right away ..))

[vic02]

blizzard are politicians

This is true on both sides. That is why your proposal is unrealizable. There is no guarantee that the samples from Omsk will be genuine, just like the German ones.

[Avior]

it is difficult to remove something from the analyzes

[vic02]

tell it to the doping experts

[Avior]

nothing was removed from the doping samples, except the samples themselves
but nowadays DNA cannot be forged.
add - you can, like a child.

[vic02]

as you said yourself, "you can add", including genetic material.

[figwam]

In this regard, Berlin again calls on Moscow to provide explanations about the poisoning of Navalny.

Let them in England ask the Singers' spy

[Avior]

and who bothered to ask? she was in Russia.

[figwam]

Quote: Avior

and who bothered to ask? she was in Russia.

On what basis to ask? Germany insists on the poisoning and let them interrogate her.

[Avior]

And what to ask her about? And to whom? They demand an investigation from Russia in general.

[figwam]

Quote: Avior

They demand an investigation from Russia in general.

Investigation of what? Russian doctors did not find the poisoning, it was not there, and Russia asks for German data on Navalny's poisoning, but they do not give them, but ask us to take our word for it, we have already gone through this with the Skripals.

[Avior]

they propose to obtain the results in the OPCW, of which Russia is a member, and the results of the German laboratory in Russia will not have formal legal force, obviously.
There is also a simple counter question - why the control samples of Navalny from Omsk have not yet been transferred to the OPCW, or at least to another independent laboratory of a serious level, for verification. This is an obvious step.

[figwam]

Quote: Avior

There is also a simple counter question - why the control samples of Navalny from Omsk have not yet been transferred to the OPCW, or at least to another independent laboratory of a serious level, for verification. This is an obvious step.

Russia handed over the whole Navalny to the west in a stable state, what could we hide in this case?

[Avior]

there is a statement from several different laboratories about the presence of OM.
We can say that this is a worldwide conspiracy, but it does not look very convincing.
but you can simply prove that at the time of Navalny's admission to the hospital, there was no OS.
To do this, you need to submit Navalny's control samples from a hospital in Omsk to an independent laboratory. This is an obvious step that has not yet been taken for some reason.

[figwam]

Quote: Avior

there is a statement from several different laboratories about the presence of OM.

The West is fighting against us, which Western laboratories can be independent from the West)

Quote: Avior

To do this, you need to provide control samples of Navalny from the hospital in Omsk

And traces of OV will immediately appear in them, and we will be accused of lying. We are unprovenly accused of all sins, that we shot down a Boeing, we poisoned the Skripals, Navalny, only our athletes are doping, the scenario is the same

[Avior]

maybe the eastern one?
or is it still a worldwide conspiracy against Russia?

[figwam]

Quote: Avior

or is it still a worldwide conspiracy against Russia?

Do you really think that the Russian authorities first poisoned Navalny in Omsk, then saved his life, and then transferred him for treatment to Germany? And all this is for what?

[Avior]

I think that if to prove the absence of poisoning, then an independent examination of the samples is the primary task.

[MMX]

Quote: Avior

there is a statement from several different laboratories about the presence of OM.
We can say that this is a worldwide conspiracy, but it does not look very convincing.
but you can simply prove that at the time of Navalny's admission to the hospital, there was no OS.
To do this, you need to submit Navalny's control samples from a hospital in Omsk to an independent laboratory. This is an obvious step that has not yet been taken for some reason.

The most important question that stands now is why, if they wanted to poison, they were sent to the hospital first, reanimated, and then to Germany?

Without an answer to this paramount question, the rest of the messages will be all false.

[Avior]

the main question to begin with, was the poisoning or not?
If it is proved that no, then this requires an independent examination.
and everyone else falls away

[MMX]

Quote: Avior

the main question to begin with, was the poisoning or not?
If it is proved that no, then this requires an independent examination.
and everyone else falls away

Now it became unclear. There, like, foreigners sing in chorus that "poisoning". Doubt?

[Avior]

Who cares about my opinion in the world?
But the official confirmation of an independent laboratory would greatly change the situation. This would be a real step, and serious, and not reasoning from the couch.

[MMX]

Yes, the question is not about your opinion. There is no investigation yet. No results. And they are already talking about sanctions for the Russian Federation.
With this approach, they will find anything in our samples. Here in Germany they were arguing with might and main about Nord Stream 2 (to cancel or not).
But what is the connection between Navalny and JV 2?
What do you see from the sofa on this issue?

[Avior]

Obvious. It is necessary to immediately conduct an independent examination of Navalny's samples from Omsk.

[MMX]

Quote: Avior

Obvious. It is necessary to immediately conduct an independent examination of Navalny's samples from Omsk.

Already researched. Found nothing.

[MMX]

they offer to get results at the OPCW

Who offers ??

the results of the German laboratory in Russia will not have formal legal force, obviously.

To whom is it obvious? To you personally?
Any factual data can serve as a reason for initiating a case and verification. And we have here the whole results of the examination. They are trying to get them.

There is also a simple counter question - why the control samples of Navalny from Omsk have not yet been transferred to the OPCW, or at least to another independent laboratory of a serious level, for verification. This is an obvious step.

And where does the OPCW ???? Intentional poisoning is a crime against life and health. In this case, the RF IC should deal with this.

[Avior]

the use of BOV is a war crime. Prohibited by convention.
OPCW is an official international organization with the participation of Russia.
and in order for Russia to receive the results of the examinations, it is necessary to execute them.
in the same laboratory, for example.
in Omsk there are samples of Navalny, you need to order their examination in the same place, and that's it.

[MMX]

the use of BOV is a war crime. Prohibited by convention.

First, not all BOV, but only those on the banned list.
Secondly, a war is being waged against Navalny, or what?

OPCW is an official international organization with the participation of Russia.

Nobody argues with this. What are you for?

and in order for Russia to receive the results of the examinations, it is necessary to execute them.

And if they are, then let them provide the results. What's the question?

in Omsk there are samples of Navalny, you need to order their examination in the same place, and that's it.

Why should we do this?

[Avior]

Newbie - in several variants is on the OPCW list.
Russia is a member of the OPCW and has access to materials, including sample results. You just need to take it.
The accusation of using CWA, confirmed by the OPCW, undoubtedly damages Russia's reputation and is fraught with economic consequences. Therefore, the question of samples from Omsk is obvious.

[MMX]

Newbie - in several variants is on the OPCW list.

More precisely, three positions from the "Newbies". And there are 60 of them for a second. Therefore, if you were poisoned by a beginner, but not from the list, then truncate, dry the oars.

Russia is a member of the OPCW and has access to materials, including sample results. You just need to take it.

Where to get it? There is nothing in the OPCW. So far, nothing at all. What are you about?????????

The accusation of using CWA, confirmed by the OPCW, undoubtedly damages Russia's reputation and is fraught with economic consequences. Therefore, the question of samples from Omsk is obvious.

Well, yes, I remember washing powder in a test tube became the basis for the actual destruction of Iraq. Are you talking about some research?

[antivirus]

I'm already worried about myself - Newbie is everywhere.
I quit drinking tea.

choose drinking companions stricter

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Temples

If they were found in repeated tests, it means that the Fritzes had "trashed" the sisyan.

Quite right. And I'm afraid for Lesha, too obviously the Fritzes want to solemnly shake the samples from the autopsy ...

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Temples

If found in repeated samples, then

"If you tell a person all the time that he is a 'pig', then he really does end up grunting." (c) M. Gorky - probably this is their calculation!

[Roman13579]

If they were found in repeated tests, it means that the Fritzes had "trashed" the sisyan.

And ours let him go there for slaughter .. if we really adhere to such a legend ..
A multi-port, however ..))

[halpat]

They are sent to the OPCW, and there they say that they did not receive anything

[atakan]

Temples
If they were found in repeated tests, it means that the Fritzes had "trashed" the sisyan.

Is not a fact . It is very likely that the Fritzes are playing. since this so-called. "fool.ok" was made in Naglia ..

[Finches]

Does he eat it for breakfast or what? Furious oppositionist!

[Arthur73]

The Germans put Alekha on the "newbie" ??? But seriously, why do they not want to analyze the samples made in Russia? There is no trust in them, these Europeans!

[svoit]

Have they already sent the samples? Something I missed this moment, share the link ...

[Civil]

Why are they pulling the cat by the tail, it is clear that the sanctions ...

[Blackmokona]

This is a survivor's fault. It is not known how many people were successfully poisoned. We only learn about failure

[Arthur73]

Who poisoned? Whom poisoned? So far, one Mr. with a test tube at the UN pops up in my memory. Later it turned out that his speech was a blatant lie. But the "light elves" have killed enough people, and what is left of the state ... When should I answer? Hitlerites were tried, and nonesh democratizers, when ???

[Russian Bear_2]

Why did he give up, poison him again.

[Pravodel]

No, well, this "Novice" is some absolutely worthless poison, since he cannot send the second person in a row to the grave.

Looks like our Novice have forgotten how to produce: we poison, we poison, but we cannot poison everything. It is necessary to ask the Anglo-Saxons, let them help to develop a suitable one, otherwise it somehow even turns out indecent ... Even the Skripals cat was not poisoned, but the cat, you see, was good. It's a pity that human rights activists, greens and animal activists did not stand up for him. So maybe the Anglo-Saxons would not have sent him to the knackery ...

[Maz]

Well, something like that goes on.
"Hello. This is a bulk dog .... I have long dreamed of hitting the road with the owner in Germany ...

[Bar1]

these analyzes do not show our exporters, as well as with doping for the Olympic team, but on these facts they will force Putin to repent and bow.
And Putin would need to screw the valve for the non-tapping, so it would be fair.

[Simargl]

Quote: Obliterator

The "newbie" is some absolutely worthless poison, since he cannot send the second person in a row to the grave.

They cannot pick up the concentration. You need three liters.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: Obliterator

The "newbie" is some absolutely worthless poison, since he cannot send the second person in a row to the grave.

They cannot pick up the concentration. You need three liters.

Well, 3 liters and moonshine would be enough!

[Simargl]

Quote: Doliva63

Well, 3 liters and moonshine would be enough!

Who do you have to be to strangle 3 liters of Sam into one helmet?

[Doliva63]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: Doliva63

Well, 3 liters and moonshine would be enough!

Who do you have to be to strangle 3 liters of Sam into one helmet?

But - for sure, not like some kind of Newbie

[Simargl]

Quote: Doliva63

But - for sure

This is not a fact: he is a trained person.

[Doliva63]

Neither training nor the Newbie will save you from zl., Drunk within 3-4 hours "in one helmet", I think

[Simargl]

Quote: Doliva63

no training, no beginner will save, I think

And again it all comes down to concentration ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: Doliva63

no training, no beginner will save, I think

And again it all comes down to concentration ...

3 liters of 70% moonshine is sufficient concentration, I'm sure.

[Simargl]

Quote: Doliva63

70% moonshine

Wow !!! It can be very different

[Doliva63]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: Doliva63

70% moonshine

Wow !!! It can be very different

Don't drink anything horrible And whoever needs it, they won't give Navalny anything.

[Simargl]

Quote: Doliva63

Don't drink anything horrible

Well, the blue and green snakes don't stick to me - I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, from drugs - only seeds ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Simargl

Quote: Doliva63

Don't drink anything horrible

Well, the blue and green snakes don't stick to me - I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, from drugs - only seeds ...

In Borz, I remember, I suffered from your brother, a drug addict: when you go to see a movie, there are ankle-deep husks! But I respect to drink and smoke a pipe, reading the Military obscenity

[aszzz888]

Earlier, the German government said that it did not intend to transfer the results of samples taken from Navalny directly to Russia, since Russian representatives are part of the OPCW and can get acquainted with the results there.

Ie nemchura plays dark, and the game is marked with cards.

[Jacket in stock]

And what kind of "Novice" did you find?
It seems that they wrote that some kind of not the one who is a "newbie", but a new "newbie" who is another "newbie".

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Jacket in stock

It seems that they wrote that some kind of not the one who is a "newbie", but a new "newbie" who is another "newbie".

But what kind of BOV is this, if a person not only woke up, but also in his right mind? And if not BOV, then what kind of OPCW? Sharpie at work ...

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And if not BOV, then what kind of OPCW?

At least a couple of Rookie varieties are on the OPCW's 1 list. So she has a lot to do with it.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

At least a couple of Rookie varieties are on the OPCW's 1 list. So she has a lot to do with it.

It's new! As we are told ... And where is he from then on the lists?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It's new! As we are told ...

They say that it is different from the previous case.

[Arthur73]

They say that in Moscow, chickens are milked, but no one has seen milk, so you never know what they say.

[The eye of the crying]

You didn't understand, but you didn't need to.

[Arthur73]

Yeah, where do I care about the light elves and the faithful two-percent ones :))) They are unique :)))

[MMX]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It's new! As we are told ...

They say that it is different from the previous case.

If not on the list, then the OPCW - by.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Sharpie at work ...

No, these are stupid clowns. Sharkers work more elegantly. And with this you can immediately hit the face with a brick, or insert something somewhere ...

[rotmistr60]

the results of Navalny's samples, the study of which was carried out in three independent laboratories in Sweden and France, showed the presence of a substance from the "Novichok" group

When they only have time. And most importantly, they act insolently, lie openly and cynically. According to the Skripals, the British were at least furnished with a visual picture - a cordon, weirdos in spacesuits (against the background of unprotected inhabitants), the destruction of a shop, house animals, etc. , and these (the Germans) are exclusively unfounded without bothering themselves with paraphernalia. And at the same time they scream about the combat OV of the Novichok group. They act like pop music - people go for it.

[Lopatov]

Once upon a time, the British decided to take a rather stupid step. To further cover up Russia, they said that it had used BOV to eliminate the traitor. That is, in fact, they said that “the Russians are so wild that they cut their nails with a garden pruner.

Even then it smelled like insanity. Especially after their own statements that once the terrible Ke-Ge-Be and his minions used ricin, much more adequate to the situation, to kill Markov

But the Germans, we must give them their due, brought the level of insanity to unattainable heights.
For the alleged use of BOV took place on Russian territory. And the Germans will not be able to arrange an "OZK show" with the destruction of the crew and passengers of a regular plane instead of an innocent cat.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Spade

much more adequate ricin

Ricin have learned to detect well.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Convicted, served and released traitor.

Who cares. It's still a traitor.

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Ricin have learned to detect well.

Under the table.

For the first time, Russia allegedly used polonium. Which is not only easy to detect, its origin can be uniquely identified. In theory, up to the time when it was mined, not to mention the place.
For the second time, Russia allegedly used a nerve bomb. Which is not only easy to detect, its origin with a very high probability points precisely to Russia

And now I have a big question, who is stupid here?
Russian special services? British propagandists? Target audience of British propagandists?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Spade

Who cares. It's still a traitor.

The difference is that after the trial and the term, there can be no claims from the side of justice against him.

Quote: Spade

Under the table.

Are you badly hurt?

Quote: Spade

For the first time, Russia allegedly used polonium.

First, it doesn't make ricin any harder to detect. Secondly, then no one assumed that polonium could be used for poisoning, and they did not look for it. They found him a day or two before Litvinenko's death, when it was already too late.

Quote: Spade

For the second time, Russia allegedly used a nerve bomb. Which is not only easy to spot

It's hard to find it. Very. You didn't seem to be following the events.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

The difference is that after the trial and the term, there can be no claims from the side of justice against him.

But he's still a traitor.

Quote: Eye of the Crying

First, it doesn't make ricin any harder to detect.

Doesn't.
But at the same time, ricin cannot clearly indicate "it is Russia to blame." Apparently, this is why the Russian special services do not use it.

In addition, ricin does not belong to the category of generally dangerous ones, from which many people around them can suffer, like CWA or radioactive materials. Apparently, this is why the Russian special services do not use it, because thanks to Hollywood, everyone has long known that real villains should not use an effective awl for murder, but an effective chainsaw ...

Quote: Eye of the Crying

It's hard to find it.

Nonsense!
It is very easy to find it. Moreover, there is a huge backlog in detection methods.
Once again, this is BOV.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Spade

But at the same time, ricin cannot clearly indicate "it is Russia to blame."

So what? The murder is being investigated, Petrov and Boshirov are still being calculated.

Quote: Spade

It is very easy to find it.

So easily that in Germany exactly one laboratory was able to do it. Military.

Quote: Spade

Once again, this is BOV.

Word game. A substance from the OPCW list 1, but call it even jam.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

So what? The murder is being investigated, Petrov and Boshirov are still being calculated.

Yes, at least they enroll ... The British can lie whatever. Up to the point that on each molecule of the "Novichok" brand was found "Made in Russia".

And a traitor remains a traitor. As the saying goes, "John built houses and forged iron, but as soon as he retired behind a stable with a sheep, they stopped calling him a builder or a blacksmith" ...

Quote: Eye of the Crying

So easily that in Germany exactly one laboratory was able to do it. Military.

No, they just decided if Europeans were stupid enough to believe in this insanity. And in the end they decided that it was so.

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Word game.

Under the table again.
This is not a "word game", it is a fact.
Not having a means of quickly detecting CWA is like not having, for example, a radar to detect enemy aircraft. That is, this is a direct path to loss.

Quote: Eye of the Crying

A substance from the OPCW list 1, but call it even jam.

Exactly!!!
And try to hang noodles about that BOV "from 1 list of the OPCW"they did not learn to quickly detect this disrespect, first of all, for oneself.
It means lying, knowing that others will unequivocally identify it as lying.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Spade

And a traitor remains a traitor.

Sure. Only to this particular traitor ... see above.

Quote: Spade

Not having a means of quickly detecting CWA is like not having, for example, a radar to detect enemy aircraft.

Nonsense. Because aircraft have not ceased to be used over the past 100 years. And when was the last time BOV was used there - in 1918? Not to mention the fact that Novice became known after the Cold War.

Quote: Spade

they just decided if the Europeans were dumb enough to believe in this insanity. And in the end they decided that it was so.

Here. And that's all you have - "the enemies are trying to deceive us."

Quote: Spade

And trying to hang noodles about the fact that BOV "from 1 OPCW list" did not learn to quickly detect

Whether you learned how to detect quickly or not, you don't know. Be that as it may, the military found him. But if Navalny died on the plane, he would be posthumously diagnosed with a heart attack with a clear conscience. Because the civilians don't have the means to locate the Novice. Perhaps the same would have happened with Skripal, if his daughter had not fallen down with him.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

And when was the last time BOV was used there - in 1918?

And again under the table.
You have obviously turned away from the army.
They never stopped preparing for use by the enemy.
Including in Germany

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Here. And that's all you have - "the enemies are trying to deceive us."

Are you sure that I am obliged to believe even the most idiotic statements like the poisoning of one person on the plane with a military agent?
At the same time, everyone else should not receive the slightest harm to health.

Once again, we would like to poison these characters, they would stupidly buy rat poison in this very Salisbury, and poison them. Death. And without a trace to Russia.

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Whether you learned how to detect quickly or not, you don't know. Be that as it may, the military found him. But if Navalny died on the plane, he would be posthumously diagnosed with a heart attack with a clear conscience. Because the civilians don't have the means to locate the Novice. Perhaps the same would have happened with Skripal, if his daughter had not fallen down with him.

It's just some kind of holiday

That is, you say that in Germany anyone can be poisoned, no one will understand anything if the military does not intervene. And I am far from thinking that they are all being driven through analyzes in the Bundeswehr laboratory.

It's enchanting
And this is already a diagnosis

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Spade

And again under the table.

Take care of your head.

Quote: Spade

They never stopped preparing for use by the enemy.
Including in Germany

This means that BOV has not really been used since 1918. That is why there is a radar station under every bush, and there is one laboratory for analysis of BOV in the whole country.

Quote: Spade

Are you sure that I am obliged to believe even the most idiotic statements like the poisoning of one person on the plane with a military agent?

I'm sure you can believe whatever you want. And trust - too.

Quote: Spade

And without a trace to Russia.

Twice to answer this too lazy. Search this thread.

Quote: Spade

laughing laughing laughing laughing

You seem to be hysterical.

Quote: Spade

That is, you say that in Germany anyone can be poisoned, no one will understand anything if the military does not intervene.

Not sure about "anyone", but if you act carefully, the symptoms of death are not particularly suspicious (unlike rat poison), so they don't do much analysis. So yes, a Newbie can poison people quietly and with impunity. Perhaps that is why the Newbie was used. And perhaps that's why May and Merkel took it seriously.

[Dima68]

Quote: The Eye of the Crying One. "So what? The murder is being investigated, Petrov and Boshirov are still being calculated." A mistake in a word, they DO NOT CALCULATE, but ASSIGN. No serious evidence of their guilt was provided.

[The eye of the crying]

Let them appoint, that's not the question now. The main thing is that they were there at the time of the crime. What kind of poison the crime was committed does not matter.

[Simargl]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Ricin have learned to detect well.

So the "Newbie" finds out! Even if it's not there.

[Abdula]

Why haven't they fired the sweet couple Bashirov and Petrov, the second miss is already, hands are growing from one place

[Russian Bear_2]

And do not say that the skipal has not completely trawled the bulk now, a mess in one word.

[Trapp1st]

In Germany announced the presence of "Novichok"

[Pavel73]

How long will this madhouse continue?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pavel73

How long will this madhouse continue?

This is just the beginning.

[APASUS]

On this basis, the OPCW (request - approx.) Took samples of Mr. Navalny and took the necessary steps to be examined in reference laboratories. The federal government (...) requested (...) an independent recheck of German data based on new samples from Mr. Navalny. Now there are the results of these tests in special laboratories in France and Sweden and they prove the German data. (...) We again call on Russia to explain what happened

Anyone can take tests from Navalny, but not the Russians
In both!

[svoit]

The Russians took the very first, but for some reason they did not send them to the reference laboratories, the opportunity to prove that the Germans were poisoned, but someone is slowing down

[APASUS]

Quote: svoit

The Russians took the very first, but for some reason they did not send them to the reference laboratories, the opportunity to prove that the Germans were poisoned, but someone is slowing down

What are you talking about ? Where to send what? The verdict has already been passed, we are guilty for any, send, do not send

[Avior]

send the results taken in Omsk to an independent laboratory.
this is an obvious step, which for some reason was not taken.

[APASUS]

Quote: Avior

send the results taken in Omsk to an independent laboratory.
this is an obvious step, which for some reason was not taken.

You know how many formalities must be followed to send these analyzes, and still at any stage it can be denied that these analyzes are by Lesha himself. And sending analyzes after a verdict has been passed is useless.

[Avior]

no problem to transfer to the laboratory
But the fact that the analyzes are foreign, so DNA has long been solving this problem, this is not a problem.

[tralflot1832]

Well, just like that unexpectedly. Repeated analysis and again Novichok. Someone Novice in the west is rotten. If you check no cockroaches, rats will not die from him. A cheap parade, but Russia will get it to the fullest. Sisyan may not need to come, the owners will bother you there in the west. or maybe they will poison you. They need you dead more.

[1536]

The provocation was a success! But if provocations are committed, does it mean that someone needs it?
Soon, apparently, every alcoholic in the West, having drunk a liter of Russian vodka in the evening, will demand an account from the Russian government why the consumer of this drink has a headache in the morning and make claims. And our "incompetent authorities" will say that it is necessary to conduct an "international investigation" into this fact.
It is necessary either to remove the information of these Germans from the headlines of news sites, or send someone to the "waters", to improve their health.

[zwlad]

If my memory serves me, then the vodka that is officially sold in the West in the West is also made. So let them show their producers. Ours have something to do with it.

[Andrey Grad]

That western Russian vodka is made here in Riga, but from Russian alcohol, so what's more :)))

[zwlad]

No no no! It is not necessary to smear the alcohol manufacturer.
Ktozh knows what your tama has stirred up with him before bottling.
The manufacturer of the products is responsible for the quality, not the manufacturer of the raw materials.

[Alien From]

It all started with a test tube at the UN ...

[rocket757]

BOV poisons at once and on the spot .... could stir a wash with traces of a specific group of BOV, in fact, that is not.
There is an order, but there is someone to fulfill.
This is no longer interesting, because no one WILL understand!
We are waiting with with.
PS Such a condition "Who benefits" from anyone is already their interesno, they will not understand. Everything is predictable.

[cniza]

It is clear who benefits, everyone only serves the chief ... Greetings!

[rocket757]

Welcome
Now, discuss, do not discuss ... how Merkel decides, so be it. She can finally slam the door ... just in front of whose nose ???

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

that's just in front of whose nose ???

It's a good question, but it looks like they are holding her tightly once she took such steps ...

[rocket757]

Her choice is not special. Bow to the overseas or keep the German industry competitive.
One and two, nothing else.

[cniza]

It looks like she was not given a choice at all ...

[rocket757]

She doesn't care about retirement !!!
Maybe he can slam the door for the last time.
And so, the trouble of all coalition formations, there are no capital obligations to each other! Everyone pulls the blanket towards their party. This is exactly what is happening there now!
They also have elections on the nose, and in the same place, green ones are stepping on their heels! And they know whose creature.
So sho as Merkel 1 does, so it will be at this point in time, and then .........

[Avior]

Read how "on the spot" BOV poisoned in the Tokyo subway.

[rocket757]

Ha, and they care? They, either with a bottle or with their cowards, will shake in front of the nose of the one who is ready to grab this bullshit and voila, goodbye to the competitive German industry .... but the overseas "big brother" will be pleased!

[g1washntwn]

Citizens Germans, stop poisoning our opposition! ... and how do you know all the OB formulas of the "beginner" family? Are the test samples from a British laboratory?

[Prahlad]

In Russia, they did not even start a case, which indirectly indicates the involvement of those in power. A rather high rank has access to such a poison. But who exactly is not yet clear ...

[zwlad]

How incomprehensible?
Yes, it's a no brainer that Putin is to blame. Th you absolutely!

[Dima68]

Quote: Prahlad

In Russia, they did not even start a case, which indirectly indicates the involvement of those in power. A rather high rank has access to such a poison. But who exactly is not yet clear ...

The culprit has long been known, it is the one who made the moonshine, from which Navalny got caught. That's just, the culprit is covered by the security forces, in the person of the local precinct.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Prahlad

not even a case was opened, which would indirectly indicate the involvement of those in power.

Are you a clown too? While he was on our territory in the blood, uh, "BOV" was not found. Accordingly, we have no reasons to start a criminal case to this day. To this day, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has not been presented with any documents or any even intelligible evidence. And in Germany they immediately found a chemical warfare agent !!!!!!!!!!! So the conclusion is simple. The Germans poisoned him in the name of triumph, not of democracy, but of the US power over the whole world.
If he had been hounded on the orders of those in power in Russia, he would not even have made it to the Omsk airport, something had happened .... But this is stupid clownery.

[askort154]

A spokesman for the German Defense Ministry confirmed that the samples were transferred to the OPCW, of which Russia is a member

I remember that the video of the long "dying" Litvinenko was played for a whole year in all Western
MASS MEDIA. "Test tube" - the same amount. "White helmets", already under the auspices of the OPCW, 5 years "caught Saddam" in the use of chemical weapons, although before that they themselves signed an act on its complete destruction in Syria. Now the tactics have changed - Skripal is not shown at all.
Apparently, Navalny will follow the same pattern.

[Reserve buildbat]

Newbie found in repeated tests So, they themselves added. How much time has passed. Everything would have happened naturally long ago, if it had been. And so we see: In Russia, they found that the anal had fought unsuccessfully with a hangover, and so he got caught. BUT as soon as this rotten carcass was delivered to a circus clinic in Germany, a newcomer was immediately found, but they continued to treat in the same way as in Omsk. And then they again took samples (already like after the freak was brought out of a coma) - and again a beginner! It is necessary to submit to the Hague Tribunal, to the ECHR and wherever, right up to Sportloto, that the Gadynians are poisoning an innocent Russian urk

[Simargl]

Quote: Stroibat stock

So, they themselves added.

Rather, the body produces.

[Connor MacLeod]

How did they get ...

[zwlad]

I guess we need to shoot someone for a low-quality Newbie.

[iouris]

If this is a war, then something must happen with the "transit" (and with the "reverse"). The time is right. Otherwise, the gas will flow only after the supplier is gone.

[Ham]

Today I listened to Lavrov - he openly said that we would no longer be fooled by the Eurogees ... if they don't want to - don't, we will find those who want equal cooperation ... he said bluntly and bluntly
and also said an interesting thing:

we just want to limit the negative influence of various Western structures and states and numerous so-called non-governmental organizations on the plans that exist in our country that exist among our allies

roughly speaking, there will be a cleanup of the media space and not only ...
the liberals still called their 37th year to the campaign ...
everything is done everything for the better - our leadership apparently realized that there can be no talk of any "equality" in relations with the West
strains another - the war is already on the threshold and most likely not avoided, because when diplomacy is powerless, guns begin to speak! the configuration is already emerging - the collective west against russia and china and this is the third world alas (((

[Doliva63]

and why the West to fight with the Russian Federation, explain. he has everything from here that he wants.

[Ham]

do you mean trade? or what?
they need us to pay resignedly and repent - as in the 90s when the Khodorkovskys-Berezovskys drove resources to the west for FREE ...
and it is even better that we would not be on the globe at all, as old Lyakh Bzezhinsky dreamed ... maybe your memory is letting you down - but this figure in the early 2000s, in all seriousness, argued that Russia would fall apart by 2010 ... or maybe you recall the words of Madeleine Albright who spoke in all seriousness about the need to take Siberia away from Russia because "it is unfair for one country to have so many resources"?
here the conversation is about geopolitics and world influence, otherwise you understand some kind of "gas station country" climbs around, muddies the waters denying the "hegemony" of one superpower obsessed with sexual perversion ...
all world wars began because of the redistribution of spheres of influence in the same way as now ...
we are not satisfied with the world order in which there is no place for Russia - and they no longer have any measures of influence to stop us except for war
in addition, it is a question of ideology and the conservative ideology that Russia now professes is a terrible challenge to total tolerance and gender perversions imposed by the collective West ... this is worse for them than communism - if people suddenly remember that they are HUMANS and not asexual beings

[iouris]

As he heals, the concentration of the "Novice" in the samples will steadily increase.

[Baloo]

Germany announced the presence of "Novichok" in repeated samples of Navalny

Lech, run from the Fritzes. Everyone has already forgiven you! The Fritzes deliberately prick you as a beginner so that you become, you know ... Run ...

[cniza]

It's too late, now everything will be squeezed out of him ...

[Operator]

The Russian Foreign Ministry is solely to blame: the consul of the Russian Federation has not yet been allowed to the Analny in accordance with international law, the Germans have not provided any documentary information, the request of the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation about the results of the tests and the text of the medical opinion under the agreement on mutual legal assistance was blatantly ignored by the Germans, still chews snot.

The anal one was removed from the plane in Omsk with the absence of an unconditional symptom of the use of a nerve agent - constriction of the pupils, during the entire time of his stay in the Omsk clinic, this symptom did not arise in Anal, examination by German doctors and loading the carcass of the Anal in a state of medicinal coma into the plane The Bundeswehr in Omsk also occurred without pupillary constriction.

So the poisoning (if it was) was carried out by the Germans, who got their hands on the massive use of poisonous substances on tens of millions of prisoners of their concentration camps in WWII and received all the information on the Novichok family from Yeltsin in the early 1990s.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Operator

The anal one was filmed in Omsk from an airplane with the absence of an unconditional symptom of the use of a nerve agent

How do you know? Nowhere. And the ambulance team in Omsk immediately injected Navalny with atropine.

[Operator]

Before being removed from the plane in Omsk and injecting atropine, Analny's pupils were also not constricted.

What did you want to say with your comment - that the Mengeleevites with a portfolio of ten million poisonings never lie?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Operator

Before being removed from the plane in Omsk and injecting atropine, Analny's pupils were also not constricted.

You do not know this and you cannot know :)

[Operator]

You don't know anything at all and you won't be able to find out anymore

[The eye of the crying]

Well, why ... suddenly Putin decides to find the scoundrels, present them to the public and arrange an honest open trial at which they will repent of the poisoning of Navalny (at the instigation of the Polish intelligence, as is customary). Then we'll find out the whole truth :)

[Operator]

I’m all for - to find the German scoundrels, put them on the international wanted list, send them to Russia and award them five years in camps for damage to the health of a Russian citizen.

[The eye of the crying]

Are you sure they are German? Are they British? Or American? Or did the Anglo-Saxons come from the depths of centuries to poison the Russian citizen Navalny?

Quote: Operator

Mengeleans

You watch The Living Dead too often

[Operator]

If they were small-shaven or African-American, then the Deutsches would have published their lab reports on anal blood testing long ago.

Yes, and small-shaven / African-Americans clearly could not poison the Anal on the Bundeswehr plane

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Operator

If they were small-shaven or African-American, then the Deutsches would have published their lab reports on anal blood testing long ago.

They posted the result

[Operator]

The result is the exact name of the chemical compound (various types of phosphorus-organic compounds are known to hell and more). And where did you see this "miracle of St. Jorgen"?

[The eye of the crying]

[quote = Operator] The result is the exact name of the chemical [.quote

Because you want it? It doesn't work that way.

[quote = Operator] And where did you see this "miracle of St. Jorgen"? [/ quote]

What a "miracle", what nonsense you are talking about.

[Operator]

The German business, which built SP-2 at its own expense, will put the piston in Angelka's ass and everything will work as it should.

After which your delirium will gradually develop into a twilight state.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Operator

German business, which built SP-2 at its own expense

Are you ... really? At your own expense? Tell us more about this.

Quote: Operator

inserts the piston in Angelka's ass

Merkel will do what she thinks is right. She has already announced her departure, and she does not care at all.

[Operator]

About the fact that Angelka is working off her severance pay from the overseas boss.

Everyone knows this very well, as well as the sharp drop in energy consumption in Europe in connection with the ongoing pandemic, therefore, preventive work is carried out at SP-1 with a temporary cessation of gas supply, and construction work on SP-2 has been suspended.

The main thing is not to supply our vaccine to the Federal Republic of Germany until Angelka recognizes the poisoning of the Anal by her order by the BND officers.

[The eye of the crying]

You constantly find new topics of delirium

[Operator]

You constantly find new reasons for hysteria.

[The eye of the crying]

You never told how German business built SP-2 for their money.

[Operator]

Damn, and you, it turns out, do not know basic things.

With the next explosion of the Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod gas pipeline near Kiev, you

[The eye of the crying]

You’re ready to talk about everything from vaccines to gas pipeline explosions, but not about how German business is ... you get the idea.

[Operator]

I'm not an information desk.

[Dima68]

Atropine is treated according to symptoms, and the substance can be different, ranging from Dichlorvos and herbicides. Cholinesterase inhibitors have such a wide range of applications that Navalny could in fact be poisoned by mixing moonshine with the medications he was taking in his stomach.

[Arthur73]

Somewhere in the press there was infa that Lesha was treating his eyes ... Perhaps taking medications plus alcohol ... Although, I am more inclined to believe that in this case there may be "more to do" with the one who spent the night with him now, quite possibly returned to England.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Dima68

Navalny could, in fact, get sick by mixing moonshine with the medications he was taking in his stomach.

Do you think you could? And what medications did he take?

[chingachguc]

there will be a joke if Navalny, when oklematsya, declares that he was poisoned by the CIA

[Knell wardenheart]

It is illogical to poison a person with a poison that has already shown its controversial effectiveness - and in an environment that allows the use of a firearm or explosives.
The only more or less reasonable that this may be - that no one wanted a lethal outcome, it was the "shutdown" for a certain period that was considered.
But for these purposes it was possible to choose a more suitable substance - a weaker but less noticeable poison, which quickly disintegrates in the blood. One figs of him were mutilated in Omsk for several days.

So far, this whole story, seasoned with "Yellow Headlines" looks like one continuous nonsense going on around one poisoned (amazingly in time) person.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

It is illogical to poison a person with a poison that has already shown its controversial effectiveness - and in an environment that allows you to use a firearm or explosive

As Mueller said, "we cannot understand the logic of the layman." And there is no reason to believe that we can understand the logic of the intended customers and performers.

[alean245]

Leave the already poor owl alone.

[Simargl]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

It is illogical to poison a person with a poison that has already shown its controversial effectiveness.

Why? Sanctions, according to their logic, can already be imposed. And endured reusable turns out.

[Moonsund]

Some kind of nonsense, reinforced super newcomer, some kind of biomaterials, some kind of tinkering, they would like to kill, all the possibilities were

[cniza]

Insolent political fuss ...

[zwlad]

the research was carried out in three independent laboratories in Sweden and France

So independent-independent! It already became visible.

[babylon]

Nonsense!))))
If they wanted to remove it, they would have removed it without "noise and dust" and this is dirty political fuss

[cniza]

According to the statement, the results of Navalny's samples, which were examined in three independent laboratories in Sweden and France, showed the presence of a substance from the Novichok group.

To conduct this study, you need to have samples, and where did they get them from? and why didn't anyone else get poisoned? , got it already ...

[Simargl]

Quote: cniza

and why didn't anyone else get poisoned?

He was wearing a mask and gloves ...

[cniza]

The British even staged a masquerade, but these with their bare hands ...

[chingachguc]

in a chemical protection suit, gi-gi))

[Clear]

Quote: cniza

According to the statement, the results of Navalny's samples, which were examined in three independent laboratories in Sweden and France, showed the presence of a substance from the Novichok group.

To conduct this study, you need to have samples, and where did they get them from? and why didn't anyone else get poisoned? , got it already ...

That's it. And more questions to the EU:
· Is there any justification for the alleged decision of the Russian authorities to poison Alexei Navalny with a military chemical nerve agent of the Novichok group, subject to the CWC ban, in a Russian city of half a million people, and then do everything possible to save his life and release him to further treatment to Germany, where can a “novice” be identified?
· What would be the reason for the poisoning of Alexei Navalny by the Russian authorities, given that his actual popularity rate is unlikely to reach 2%, according to a recent poll conducted in July 2020 by the independent non-governmental organization Levada Center?
· Why is the German government so reluctant to provide the Russian authorities with the results of the toxicological analysis carried out by a specialized laboratory of the German armed forces, or to make them public if Berlin is sure that Mr. Navalny was poisoned? On August 27, 2020, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation sent an official request for legal assistance to the German authorities. However, Berlin did not want to respond promptly and constructively to this request, first delaying the answer, and then stating that no evidence would be provided due to confidentiality, and ultimately declaring the whole case secret?
· At the same time, we constantly hear that the Russian government needs to thoroughly and transparently investigate the attempted murder of Mr. Navalny. It is argued that all evidence and witnesses must be found "somewhere in Siberia."
Was it a coincidence that at the same time, some of the persons accompanying Mr Navalny on his trip to Siberia immediately left Russia for Germany after the incident?
· Why do German doctors from the Charite hospital shy away from a professional dialogue with their Russian colleagues, despite the obvious inconsistencies in symptoms, toxicological analysis and Mr. Navalny's diagnosis? The German Federal Medical Chamber rejected the proposal of Russian colleagues to create a joint group to conduct a medical examination in the case of Mr. Navalny.
· Why is it claimed that the military chemical nerve agent of the Novichok group was developed by the Soviet Union and then by Russia, neglecting the fact that for a number of years experts from Western states and relevant NATO centers have been developing chemicals belonging to the Novichok group? For example, the United States has issued more than 150 patents for the military use of these chemicals.
· Why was Mr. Navalny accompanied to the Charité hospital by the police and special services when he arrived in Berlin? Why were emergency security measures taken, and the hospital itself was turned into a high-security facility long before Novichok “opened”? Does this mean that Berlin knew something that neither Moscow nor Omsk knew about? It is worth noting that more than 60 biochemical tests were carried out in the Omsk hospital, none of which showed any signs of poisoning.
* What is behind the story with the “bottle of water” supposedly with traces of poison on it? Neither CCTV cameras nor photographs show that Mr. Navalny used it before flying to Tomsk airport. If it was used before, or aboard a plane bound for Moscow, how did it get to Berlin?
* Why not a single toxicology specialist, civilian or military, not a single Charite doctor at all gave a qualified opinion on this case (as did Russian doctors)?
Allegations that any evidence can only be transferred to Russia with the patient's consent are incompatible with the numerous political statements made in Germany while he was still in a coma.

[Operator]

Anal in a trip to Tomsk was accompanied by his girlfriend Pevchikh Maria Konstantinovna, born in 1987, from Moscow, graduated from the sociological faculty of Moscow State University, since 2010 has been permanently residing in London, visits his homeland two or three times a year, works for Khodorkovsky, oversees funding NPO "FBK".

In connection with the multimillion-dollar debts of NPO FBK, its head Analny began bankruptcy proceedings, which, according to Russian law, are accompanied by a mandatory audit of financial activities. In order to prevent auditors from accessing the internal documentation of the NPO and in connection with Analny's plans to leave the opposition, foreign sponsors finally decided to promote him as a sacred victim.

Knowing about Analny's chronic diseases, the composition of the drugs he was taking and the diet he used, Khodorkovsky's agents, led by Masha Pevchikh, provoked alcohol poisoning and the subsequent sharp rise in Analny's blood sugar, which caused him acute pain in the pancreas. In the Omsk clinic, they took tests, did not find any poison, stabilized the patient's condition, put him into a medical coma, and allowed him to be transported to Germany. On the Bundeswehr plane on the way to Berlin, the Germans administered a non-lethal dose of an organic phosphorus compound similar to the Novichok BOV.

After the landing of a Bundeswehr plane in Berlin, this compound was detected in anal blood samples by several European laboratories. The laboratory reports are not subject to public disclosure, since it will be immediately apparent that the organophosphorus compound does not belong to the Novichok family.

[g1washntwn]

And I mean the same. If the test results are provided, we clearly have a control sample before sending the patient for treatment over the hillock. If something really appeared there, then this is already a reason to initiate a serious case. Only those who have brewed all this provocation will not like it. The more they lie, the more they lie - a classic.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The fundamental jamb of this technique is the same as that of the Banderlog in Mowgli. Instead of publicly describing a coherent and reproducible method of analysis, they shout in chorus "We are worthy of admiration! Worthy of admiration like no other people in the jungle! We all say so - so it is true!"

[xomaNN]

If Western and domestic puppeteers have already outlined a sacred sacrifice, then the bulk remains to be finished then

... The big question is, who benefits from this sacrifice? Looks like puppeteers!

[rotfuks]

I read the statements of a doctor from the Omsk hospital, where Navalny was given first aid. The doctor said that the samples of this patient were checked on a spectral analyzer manufactured in the USA and having the appropriate certification. And this equipment did not detect poisoning. If the Germans found poison on exactly such a spectral analyzer, then the conclusion suggests itself that the poisoning occurred during the flight or in a German clinic. It is enough to provide for comparison the results of spectral analysis from Omsk and Berlin and find out where the poisoning occurred.

[Gloomy skeptic]

Somehow not professional in anal. They would have given a log on a pumpkin and business. Now, for another week, snot-moans will be smeared on the media.

[chingachguc]

if it were Putin, he would have arranged an accident for him, like Evdokimova, or his wife would have shot him, like Rokhlina. Well, he is not so stupid, Putin is ours ...

[Avior]

unclear. There are control samples in Omsk. Why have they still not been presented to an independent laboratory to confirm that there was no newcomer? along with DNA analysis to confirm that Navalny's sample? All questions would be removed.

[Simargl]

Quote: Avior

Why haven't they been presented to an independent laboratory yet?

Revenge is a cold dish. And let them perverted in every way, so that later it would be easier to break through the bottom.

[Avior]

a good spoon for dinner.

[Simargl]

it's more like a shootout.

[Avior]

moreover, the examination needs to be carried out

[BABAY22]

Well, no one actually doubted that they would "find".
And they will find exactly the Novice. It was questionable whether they would find an ampoule from under the Novice with VVP fingerprints in his pocket.
Another thing is interesting here. If all the hedgehogs near Moscow knew that this was exactly what would happen, then why did the Big People, who are hardly more stupid than hedgehogs, allow the carcass to be taken to Germany?

[Artyom Volgin]

Quote: BABAY22

allowed to take the carcass to Germany?

Maybe it got bored (just kidding)
Seriously, this fact says only one thing, we didn't poison him.

[depressant]

The West needed Navalny alive. Apparently, he has not yet worked out the funds spent on it.
I think it is appropriate for the political leadership of our country to raise the question in a harsh tone to the FRG, and in fact to NATO: how did it happen that Russian doctors did not find any traces of Novichok in Navalny's analyzes? And how did it happen that German military doctors, who had access to any chemical warfare agents, found traces of the poison? Including - to the "Newbie". And, finally, how did it happen that Navalny's internal organs do not have any traces of the effects of this poison, taking into account the fact that a considerable time has passed from the moment of the onset of the disease to the provision of primary medical care (request for landing, time of arrival, landing, arrival of the ambulance, etc. etc.).
For some reason, it seems to me that it is time for our politicians to move from making excuses to direct accusations of the Federal Republic of Germany that, on the territory of this country, a chemical warfare agent was mixed into Navalny's analyzes in the amount necessary to create a so-called trace. Or, at least in the form of the above questions, express suspicion of this. Directly and unambiguously. And only then regret, they say, it's a pity that you have such things happening. And the main thing is complete conviction that you are right.

[fa2998]

In the West, they think that in Russia they will poison someone (with an unclear result). Yes, we have so many bridges (here Nemtsov loved to walk) and thousands of "hang-ups" for murders (and missing) - why do we need this "Novichok". Why complicate everything ?

[chingachguc]

What an idiot you have to be to use the Novice to bait your enemies. It's like leaving a business card at the scene of a murder. And still not finish it off. I don't have much sympathy for Putin, but I don't think he is an idiot either. Stupid provocation of the West, focused primarily on stupid Western TV viewers. I feel sorry for Navalny. He was hounded by the CIA, or the Ukrainians, or someone else ... With such friends and enemies are not necessary.

[Artyom Volgin]

Quote: chingachguc

I'm sorry for Navalny

I don't care. He himself went to this. Nobody forced him to play in opposition.

[VYACHESLAV PROSHAKOV]

And what do they try, if not a secret? Feces? Urine? And How? Does it taste or smell?

[Artyom Volgin]

Quote: VYACHESLAV PROSHAKOV

Does it taste or smell?

You know it

[Nitten]

After being injected with a microneedle, Navalny's body began to develop "Novichok" ....

[Artyom Volgin]

Quote: Nitten

After being injected with a microneedle, Navalny's body began to develop "Novichok" ....

I am ashamed to ask, but I will ask: From what place does a beginner develop in him?

[rotfuks]

The German politician cuts the truth about Navalny: so that Russia, AGAIN, becomes our enemy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NMZVzDf1Q8

[Disorder]

And from where in France and Sweden the samples of "Novichok"? Especially Sweden, which is not a NATO member.
How was it done in the Czech Republic for research?

[rotfuks]

The German politician cuts the truth about Navalny: so that Russia, AGAIN, becomes our enemy!

[high]

The presence of poison in Navalny was confirmed by laboratories in Sweden and France

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***

"... The messenger is drunken

And in his empty bag

They thrust another letter ... "

***

[Campanella]

Splash witchcraft into the crystal gloom of the glass ...
All and sundry found a newcomer in Navalny and his things (by the way, they do not write where the samples are taken from, blood, mucous membranes, panties, socks, hair) and only Russian doctors could not do this.
This suggests that the Novice virus, not the coronavirus, is roaming Europe.