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In the West: If the Kremlin continues to support Lukashenka, Russia risks turning the Belarusian people against itself

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The European and American press publishes materials concerning Alexander Lukashenko's today's visit to Sochi. It is in this city that the first meeting of the presidents of Russia and Belarus after the elections in Belarus will take place.


The Danish edition Berlingske writes that “Lukashenka is flying to Putin against the backdrop of continuing protests in Belarus against rigged elections”.

The author of the material, Thomas Agaard, quotes representatives of the Belarusian opposition:

We will not let Lukashenka sell our land.


In this regard, it is worth asking the question, what would that mean? Are you ready to sell the land yourself? ..

The Danish observer writes that Lukashenka's visit to Putin "could lead to the Kremlin gaining more power in Belarus." A similar statement was published in the British Guardian.

The Bloomberg edition cites the statement of the former British Ambassador to Belarus Nigel Gould-Davis. According to him, if the Kremlin focuses on supporting Alexander Lukashenko, then Russia "can turn its friendliest neighbor into a country with a population that sees Lukashenko only as a conspirator."

And this is the statement by US Undersecretary of State Stephen Bigan:

If the Kremlin continues to act in the same spirit (to support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of turning against itself the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.


In general, publications in Western media, including statements by politicians and officials, boil down to the fact that Russia "cannot support Lukashenka."
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  1. Finches
    Finches 14 September 2020 10: 23
    50
    Yes, we will somehow figure it out at home! You have already helped the Ukrainians - a civil war has been going on for 6 years! This is exactly what you want to do in Belarus, so that you can climb west to east!
    1. Temples
      Temples 14 September 2020 10: 33
      39
      The Kremlin runs the risk of turning the people of Russia against itself if it stops supporting Belarus.
      So, we will support Lukashenka today, and tomorrow the one who will lead Belarus.
      Better as part of a single state.
      So we sleep better.
      1. Kamarada
        Kamarada 14 September 2020 10: 52
        -11 qualifying.
        The Kremlin risks a riot in Russia. If he continues to pursue such a mediocre foreign and domestic policy
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 14 September 2020 11: 00
          +9
          Quote: Kamarada
          The Kremlin risks a riot in Russia. If he continues to pursue such a mediocre foreign and domestic policy

          How does the "revolt in Russia" depend on its foreign policy?
          PS A little creative from the protests "for all good versus all bad":


          1. Kamarada
            Kamarada 14 September 2020 11: 04
            -6
            EVERYTHING is interconnected in the body
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 14 September 2020 15: 29
              -6
              Statement by US Undersecretary of State Stephen Bigan:
              If the Kremlin will continue act in the same spirit (support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of antagonizing the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.

              Problems exist and they are reflected even at the level of political fetishism.
              1. The Belarusian opposition has Polish and Lithuanian flags.
              2. In the Russian Federation, Lenin in the mausoleum is an ideological fetish, like a flag, of the Soviet regime and the socialist system and a beam in the eye of the liberal - bourgeois and religious - opposition.

              It is noteworthy that right now the Russian Union of Architects of Russia suddenly became concerned about the re-profiling of Lenin's mausoleum after the removal of Lenin's body from there. Why did he suddenly worry about it?
              А because it now directly concerns the performances of the anti-Lukashenka opposition in the Republic of Belarus. And therefore, this circumstance should be viewed as joint political actions of the West against our countries - against the union of Belarus with Russia. Namely.

              First, the The Russian Union of Architects (ROA) has long been inherently turned into a foreign NGO in the Russian state and uses DOUBLE political standards.
              And secondly. It is known that Lukashenka preserved the people's property, state-owned enterprises and social guarantees for the working people in Belarus. social features of the Soviet socialist state.
              And if Lenin is taken out of the mausoleum in Russia, then For pro-Russian-Soviet Belarusians, this will become a SIGNAL not to reunite with Russia. This is exactly what the West wants.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 14 September 2020 18: 22
                +3
                An hour ago, a message came that the Union of Architects of Russia, under pressure from the public, made a forced decision to CANCEL the historically untimely and provocative announcement competition on the re-use of the Vladimir Lenin Mausoleum on Red Square after the removal of Lenin's body from the Mausoleum.

                Congratulations to Russia and the Russians for finally making a completely wise political decision, especially at this historical moment!
              2. Motorist
                Motorist 14 September 2020 23: 05
                +1
                Quote: Tatiana
                after taking out Lenin's body

                Tell me without emotion - where You it read other than media headlines?
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 14 September 2020 23: 21
                  -1
                  Quote: Motorist
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  after taking out Lenin's body

                  Tell me without emotion - where You it read other than media headlines?

                  Yes, on the Internet, the Russian Union of Architects announced a competition for professional architects from the Russian Federation and the CIS countries for architectural projects to reconstruct the mausoleum after the body of V.I. Lenin. The purpose of the reconstruction of the mausoleum is supposedly to prevent the demolition of the building of the mausoleum itself, re-profiling it as a museum of the history of our country. But other subjects for reconstruction were also allowed.
                  1. Motorist
                    Motorist 14 September 2020 23: 43
                    -1
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    after the body of V.I. Lenin

                    Tatiana, from where this text? I was on their website, at first it was not available (apparently DDoS, since many have read such headlines and rushed to the source), then I could read - not a word about removing the body!
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 15 September 2020 00: 24
                      -1
                      Quote: Motorist
                      not a word about body removal!

                      It was, it was! I read this ad with my own eyes.
                      And it is in the context that after the removal of the body, a pre-prepared competitive project for the reconstruction of the mausoleum will be immediately involved - a project that will already be developed, approved and accepted for production by the Russian Union of Architects without any loss of time immediately after the removal of the leader's body.
                      Those. In the proposal of the Russian Union of Architects, there is a design ahead of the event itself on the removal of Lenin's body from the mausoleum and the presence of a finished project already in the hands of the builders.
                    2. Artyom Volgin
                      Artyom Volgin 15 September 2020 00: 53
                      11
                      Quote: Motorist
                      I was on their website, at first it was unavailable (apparently DDoS, since many people read such headlines and rushed to the source), then I could read - not a word about removing the body!

                      Before. First they published the text with Lenin's removal. Then the article became unavailable (just when you visited them), and now a new version of the article is on their website.
                      1. Motorist
                        Motorist 15 September 2020 19: 39
                        0
                        Hello! I do not exclude that it was so. I rely on the article on VO and the link in the article (today again "404"). In the article, the phrase "without Lenin" appears in the title and in the last sentence referring to the reaction in the network, ie no direct speech about it. If you can get the original of the contest from the cache, I will be very grateful! hi
            2. Oden280
              Oden280 14 September 2020 16: 00
              +2
              Your exit and entry into the body are directly connected.
          2. Mikhalych
            Mikhalych 14 September 2020 11: 32
            +6
            According to F.M. Dostoevsky's complete freedom will lead humanity to general debauchery.
          3. Alien From
            Alien From 14 September 2020 11: 45
            +2
            It is worth paying attention to the age of the Protestants ...
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        2. 210ox
          210ox 14 September 2020 11: 55
          -1
          Responsible for the riot, for the people, you say? Nu, Nu.
        3. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 14 September 2020 14: 40
          -3
          Quote: Kamarada
          The Kremlin risks a riot in Russia. If he continues to pursue such a mediocre foreign and domestic policy

          We will remove instigators of riots like you, and no riots are foreseen ..
          1. Kamarada
            Kamarada 14 September 2020 15: 06
            +2
            Please read the comment. I do not incite anyone to revolt. And it will hurt me when it happens. Better than power + oligarchy, no one incites to riots. Examples?
            1. Senka naughty
              Senka naughty 14 September 2020 18: 02
              0
              Quote: Kamarada
              Please read the comment. I do not incite anyone to revolt. And it will hurt me when it happens. Better than power + oligarchy, no one incites to riots. Examples?

              And there is nothing to "read" .. you doom the country to collapse through a rebellion, so when you offer something meaningful for optimal development, then open your mitten, but for now you have just told yourself an article.
              1. Kamarada
                Kamarada 14 September 2020 20: 10
                -1
                Oh well . Ie, according to you, it is not the one who leads to this, but the one who speaks and warns. Interesting logic. Strange, let's say. Once again I repeat this (riots) I do not want and do not say. But watching the situation, I understand that he is a riot. Moreover, there are already outbreaks. And if the authorities continue to act this way, then it is simply inevitable. And I will be very sad.
        4. Kamarada
          Kamarada 14 September 2020 14: 59
          0
          You can at least zaminusovatsya. It makes me neither cold nor hot.
          1. Senka naughty
            Senka naughty 14 September 2020 18: 05
            +1
            Quote: Kamarada
            You can at least zaminusovatsya. It makes me neither cold nor hot.

            I do not minus provocateurs from the principle.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 September 2020 11: 42
        +2
        Quote: Temples
        So we sleep better.

        Quote: Temples
        So we sleep better.

        And to the Russians and Belarusians.
    2. Civil
      Civil 14 September 2020 10: 36
      -25 qualifying.
      Russia risks turning the Belarusian people against itself


      Do not lie gentlemen, Belarusians all as one want to get to the island of prosperity and prosperity. Join the ranks of United Russia and receive educational and medical services. Dreaming of mobile auto clubs:


      They also want to be on the Forbes list.
      And they don't want to go to the damned rich Geyropa.
      1. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 14 September 2020 10: 41
        13
        Quote: Civil
        Belarusians as one want to get to the island of prosperity and prosperity. Join the ranks of United Russia and receive educational and medical services. Dreaming of mobile auto clubs:

        Well, yes, of course, permanent Maidan and "eurointegration" are much better and more promising ...
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 14 September 2020 10: 45
          +2
          The European and American press publishes materials concerning Alexander Lukashenko's today's visit to Sochi.

          If I were Putin, I would invite Lukashenko to a meeting not in Sochi, but in Rostov! It would be a hint to him what awaits him if he is intractable to unite our countries! yes
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 14 September 2020 10: 48
            +2
            Well, he invited him, only not to Rostov, but to Sochi. Tonight we are waiting for a press release on the results of the conversation.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 14 September 2020 10: 51
              0
              Quote: Ded_Mazay
              Well, he invited him, only not to Rostov, but to Sochi.

              I can still read, unlike you! yes
              1. Pravodel
                Pravodel 14 September 2020 11: 04
                +3
                Is Sochi so far from Rostov? Just a stone's throw. Before you have time to look back, you will find yourself in Rostov ...
              2. Ded_Mazay
                Ded_Mazay 14 September 2020 11: 26
                -1
                Well so do I
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                I can still read, unlike you!

                That is why I am writing that not to Rostov, but to Sochi, and this is a hint to him that
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                with intractability to unite our countries

                they don't expect him in Rostov ... laughing
            2. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 14 September 2020 11: 09
              +4
              It would be better in Rostov ...
          2. Mikhalych
            Mikhalych 14 September 2020 11: 28
            +2
            If I were Putin, I would invite Lukashenko to a meeting not in Sochi, but in Rostov!

            It's good that you are not in Putin's shoes.
            hi
          3. Karaul73
            Karaul73 14 September 2020 16: 16
            +2
            And be sure to drink tea!
          4. Kisa
            Kisa 14 September 2020 19: 11
            0
            that is, you want to say that that Danish newspaper is right and Krepky Kartoshik is bargaining for the country's sovereignty to sit in the chair of the Minsk governor so chtoli?
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 14 September 2020 11: 08
          +2
          Quote: Ded_Mazay
          Well, yes, of course, permanent Maidan and "eurointegration" are much better and more promising ...


          And what do you think a series of color revolutions will come to the root of the entire social sector and industry. the remnants of the industrial complex will be sold by the eurointegrators for metal. They will sell the land and settle with the loot in California. Paragraph. In general, who had time to do that and sneakers. Have already passed .. Not long ago.
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 14 September 2020 11: 29
            0
            You explain this to this friend
            Quote: Civil
            Belarusians as one want to get to the island of prosperity and prosperity. Join the ranks of United Russia and receive educational and medical services
            , not me.
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 14 September 2020 11: 33
              0
              Sorry ............
              1. Ded_Mazay
                Ded_Mazay 14 September 2020 11: 36
                0
                Quote: Cyril G ...
                Sorry ............

                It happens. hi
          2. Civil
            Civil 14 September 2020 12: 28
            -2
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            Quote: Ded_Mazay
            Well, yes, of course, permanent Maidan and "eurointegration" are much better and more promising ...


            And what do you think a series of color revolutions will come to the root of the entire social sector and industry. the remnants of the industrial complex will be sold by the eurointegrators for metal. They will sell the land and settle with the loot in California. Paragraph. In general, who had time to do that and sneakers. Have already passed .. Not long ago.


            And what if everything is done not by European integrators, but by the parents of foreign citizens? As with the Kurgan region, for example, the better? Are there other options?
          3. My doctor
            My doctor 14 September 2020 18: 40
            -1
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            And what do you think a series of color revolutions will come to the root of the entire social sector and industry.

            you probably know very well about the Belarusian social sphere?
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 14 September 2020 19: 04
              0
              I was born and raised in Minsk, although I do not live there now .... sisters remained there. Father lies in the Western Cemetery. Friends have remained in Minsk to this day. I have an idea of ​​what is happening.
              1. My doctor
                My doctor 14 September 2020 19: 10
                -1
                In Minsk? Clear..
        3. Civil
          Civil 14 September 2020 12: 26
          -3
          Quote: Ded_Mazay
          Quote: Civil
          Belarusians as one want to get to the island of prosperity and prosperity. Join the ranks of United Russia and receive educational and medical services. Dreaming of mobile auto clubs:

          Well, yes, of course, permanent Maidan and "eurointegration" are much better and more promising ...


          Of course, if you only have such a choice ... between the oligarchs and the Maidan. For more if the mind is not enough.
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 14 September 2020 14: 03
            +1
            Quote: Civil
            Of course, if you only have such a choice ... between the oligarchs and the Maidan. For more if the mind is not enough.

            Naive...
      2. Finches
        Finches 14 September 2020 10: 41
        20
        Aha! Ukrainians are already in Europe - they drink kava at the Vienna Opera ... They take croissants in buckets right in by buckets! laughing
      3. viralig
        viralig 14 September 2020 11: 28
        +2
        Comrade so there are none. In the countryside, it's good if the caravan comes. And for medicine and education - so we pay triple taxes, and that is not free, then pay for it. Free only in name.
        And everyone wants to live with dignity. Only some work, and others live - the masters of life are walking with clubs. Anyone they don't like will be beaten up and made guilty. And nobody will understand.
      4. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 14 September 2020 11: 33
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        And they don't want to go to the damned rich Geyropa.

        Well, some already wanted lace panties.
        We observe the result
        1. Roman13579
          Roman13579 14 September 2020 11: 53
          -7
          Frozen ??)
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 14 September 2020 11: 55
            +5
            Well the economy was killed, the civil war started
      5. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 September 2020 11: 54
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        And they don't want to go to the damned rich Geyropa.

        Have you heard that Europe would call someone to itself?
        Just like your rich relatives, no one will serve you.
      6. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 14 September 2020 12: 17
        -3
        All Belarusians want to become gay-European slaves, they want the destruction of their country and civil war!
        1. syndicalist
          syndicalist 14 September 2020 13: 31
          +1
          All as one
        2. Kisa
          Kisa 14 September 2020 19: 16
          0
          I'll tell you a secret if in Saratov a low-cost ticket is made 20 euros as between Riga and London without customs barriers, then the next day all violent patriots will flee to work)))
      7. APASUS
        APASUS 14 September 2020 12: 19
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        Russia risks turning the Belarusian people against itself


        Do not lie gentlemen, Belarusians all as one want to get to the island of prosperity and prosperity. Join the ranks of United Russia and receive educational and medical services. Dreaming of mobile auto clubs:


        They also want to be on the Forbes list.
        And they don't want to go to the damned rich Geyropa.

        Rich Europe came to Ukraine and happiness began! Work, medicine, democracy, our people were envious of the happiness and wealth of our neighbors !!!

        Payment documents were published on the State Department's website, which clearly indicated the organizations in Ukraine that received the money and the goals for which they were transferred: increasing voter turnout among young people, supporting American foreign policy and conducting training.

        Democracy rules directly .................. laughing laughing lol
    3. Terrible GMO
      Terrible GMO 14 September 2020 10: 58
      -27 qualifying.
      Quote: Finches
      You have already helped the Ukrainians - a civil war has been going on for 6 years!

      That's right, you helped. If the Russian Federation did not climb into Crimea, this war would not exist. Indeed, against the background of the "inspiration" from the annexation of the latter, Donbass so eagerly wanted to become part of Russia. Only now you only needed Crimea, and Donbass and its inhabitants were deceived and abandoned.

      So yes, helped well.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 14 September 2020 11: 03
        11
        If the Russian Federation did not climb into the Crimea, there would be no such war.
        Would not arrange a coup d'etat with the help of the United States in Ukraine there would be no war ... would not have promised Americans like you bases in Ukraine there would be no war.
        Now the USA and Belarus want to do the same trick.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 14 September 2020 11: 15
          +6
          This is just a trial balloon.
          At the moment, we have no conditions for the United States to roam in Belarus.
          And the example of neighboring Ukraine is sobering to the sane.

        2. viralig
          viralig 14 September 2020 11: 40
          +5
          And the United States did not climb. Father himself invited them. So there should be demand from him. He also wants to eat the fish and not wash the frying pan.
      2. Finches
        Finches 14 September 2020 11: 03
        15
        That is, the "air conditioners" in peaceful houses began to explode from the flight of Russian attack aircraft over the territory of Donetsk? Did I understand correctly? And the questions about Crimea are not for me, this is for the people of Crimea - this is their decision to leave Ukraine, which fell ill with Western nationalism and fell under the Anglo-Saxons!
      3. Pravodel
        Pravodel 14 September 2020 11: 16
        13
        If the Russian Federation did not climb into Crimea, there would be no war ... you only needed Crimea, and Donbass and its inhabitants were deceived and abandoned

        Something you, dear, suffered. Russia returned Crimea, which you seized under the ever-memorable Khrushchev, returned what it rightfully belonged to since the time of Matushka Catherine, which had nothing to do with Ukraine at all, tk. Ukraine itself, in the form in which the Bolsheviks created Ukraine, did not exist at that time. By the way, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Donbass, Kharkov, etc. - These are also Russian lands given to Ukraine by the Bolsheviks. So, you see for yourself what else we need, what else should return to Russia.
        That's just about the Westerners, I doubt very much that they need to be returned to Russia. It is possible that the best option would be to divide them between Hungarians, Czechs, Slovy and various other Poles. Let them fight there for one indivisible independent Ukraine ...
        I will also remind you that the war in Donbass is a consequence of the coup in Kiev, when the Banderlogists, led by your bunny, Turchinov and others, overthrew the legitimate government, and that the war in Ukraine was unleashed not by us or Donbass, but by the Ukrainians, together with the Banderlogists headed by Turchinov and Poroshenko.
        So, even if you are sitting in Ukraine and are extremely outraged by the ongoing war, then contact your rulers. As far as my memory serves me, now you have a clown at the head of an independent and independent one. Just ask him.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 14 September 2020 11: 52
          +6
          Quote: The Truth
          By the way, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Donbass, Kharkov, etc. - these are also Russian lands given to Ukraine by the Bolsheviks

          1. syndicalist
            syndicalist 14 September 2020 13: 37
            -4
            80 years ago, some people also managed to convince their fellow citizens that their ancestral German lands were taken from them.
        2. Campanella
          Campanella 14 September 2020 22: 36
          0
          Zapadentsev was forced to learn Polish and sent to Poland for permanent residence. Farion, at the head of the column!
      4. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 14 September 2020 11: 29
        +8
        Quote: TerribleGMO
        If the Russian Federation did not climb into the Crimea, there would be no such war.


        You are confusing cause and effect. First, you organize a series of color revolutions in your country. Stubbornly stick to the termination of agreements on the basing of the Black Sea Fleet and the renunciation of Ukraine's neutral status. Then you stage a coup. But after that Crimea leaves you. They didn't want to deal with the abnormal. That's how it was.
      5. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 14 September 2020 11: 44
        +2
        Quote: TerribleGMO
        That's right, you helped

        Well yes. Cookies were not fed

        And this is the answer to the "capture" of Crimea and Donbass?
      6. Roman13579
        Roman13579 14 September 2020 11: 54
        -5
        If the Russian Federation did not climb into Crimea, this war would not exist

        Thinking too deeply ..
        Here the bulk is used to thinking more superficially ..))
      7. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 September 2020 12: 06
        +3
        Quote: TerribleGMO
        If the Russian Federation did not climb into the Crimea, there would be no such war.

        So we had to give it ourselves. The alien must always be given.
      8. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 14 September 2020 12: 19
        +3
        If the Russian Federation did not climb into the Crimea, they would have arranged the 2nd Odessa, they all were driven into the corral like cattle, and those who resisted were cut out.
      9. Motorist
        Motorist 14 September 2020 23: 33
        0
        Quote: TerribleGMO
        Don't get the RF into Crimea

        TerribleGMO, you seem to be positioning yourself as a Belarusian, you say that you are there "yourself with a mustache" (not literally, of course!) - well, why are you now наш Are you dragging in Crimea? Well, some kind of double standards! Be consistent. hi
    4. viralig
      viralig 14 September 2020 11: 03
      +1
      So they have already climbed. And the fault is the illiterate help of our eastern friends. Those who believe that having sipped on the ficals of the AG government, they decided to support him. The last performance of Zhirinovsky for all 10 points fell into the current situation, although usually he is ..... And you, sitting at home, probably know better than us how we live?
      You are being sung songs about free medicine and education, on which we pay taxes. Prices have been growing every year, and salaries have stalled at the level of 2016. Literally today I compared the calculators.
      Bonally, in winter there will be no money for everyday needs.
    5. Romka
      Romka 14 September 2020 11: 20
      -1
      "At home" - you are in Russia. RB is a separate state, whatever one may say. While.
      1. Finches
        Finches 14 September 2020 11: 24
        +5
        This is a historical misunderstanding ... Bye ...
        1. Romka
          Romka 14 September 2020 11: 39
          +1
          You do not know Lukashenka well (no one knows who his father was by nationality, but the Belarusians guess)) He will once again turn Putin around.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 14 September 2020 12: 09
            -3
            Quote: Romka
            You do not know Lukashenka well (no one knows who his father was by nationality, but Belarusians guess)

            Lukashenko was born on the land of Belarus in the Soviet Union.
          2. Kisa
            Kisa 14 September 2020 19: 28
            0
            if yesterday they twisted 500 people, will a strong Potato pump up to show that he can cope himself and take a more advantageous position in the auction from Vova?
            less than a month left to accept the inauguration and become legitimate - can this moment take place so as not to stir up the rebels? Kolesnikov Alekseevich ... did he clean up the main ones?
            What scenario do you see as Belarus?
            1. Romka
              Romka 14 September 2020 20: 46
              0
              Sooner or later, discontent will stop, provided that the economic situation does not worsen. And it should not worsen - the GDP will feed the regime until it finds a replacement (at your expense, the Russians, by the way, thank you). Another thing is what will happen when Putin is gone?
    6. Maz
      Maz 14 September 2020 12: 23
      +1
      PUT not trend, talked with his classmate in the rank of major general in Belarus. Literally his words. "Maz, everything is under our control, but not so easy" - so fuck them, not Belarus. The one who serves in the border troops said that the soldiers are determined to stand to the last, if NATO climbs. The officers are all for Lukashenka. And those that threw themselves in uniforms is a random riffraff from the gateway, if they were still real servicemen.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 14 September 2020 19: 00
        +1
        Quote: Maz
        The officers are all for Lukashenka.

        Dmayu, this is natural, the security forces are a caste with all sorts of benefits. Retirement at 45, and not at 63 as in the republic, and plus the pension itself is higher than the average worker's earnings, not to mention social security. It is necessary to be not a moron, but an oligophrenic to be against.
        Quote: Maz
        The one who serves in the border troops said that the soldiers are determined to stand to the last, if NATO climbs.

        Until the last conscript smile It was tough when (like in Braslov?) Conscripts, instead of the police, were sent out without special means against the crowd. Maybe your classmate will tell you who wanted to curry favor?
    7. iouris
      iouris 14 September 2020 18: 42
      +1
      Quote: Finches
      Yes, we will somehow figure it out at home!

      Are you referring to the US and EU State Department with lyakhi and Lithuania? If to Moscow, then first return the debts.
      1. Finches
        Finches 14 September 2020 19: 22
        +1
        I will ask you for a detailed description of the debts, if it does not bother you, please, what does Russia owe Belarus or more so that the head owes the hand, and the hand, what owes the head, if it is one organism?
  2. alex-s
    alex-s 14 September 2020 10: 24
    16
    And this is the statement by US Undersecretary of State Stephen Bigan:

    If the Kremlin continues to act in the same spirit (to support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of turning against itself the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.



    Everyone has long known that the best friends of the Belarusians are the Americans)))
    1. JD1979
      JD1979 14 September 2020 11: 19
      -8
      Quote: alex-s
      Everyone has long known that the best friends of the Belarusians are the Americans)))

      Everyone has known for a long time that there is only black and white for those with VO, they have propaganda and we have the holy truth. EP will not let you lie))) With the past elections, you should not eat up))
      1. Finches
        Finches 14 September 2020 19: 23
        +2
        Do you do .... ok? Excuse me generously or just a provider?
        1. JD1979
          JD1979 14 September 2020 19: 37
          -1
          Quote: Finches
          Are you d .... ok?

          And you? Something about experts on friends of Belarusians got divorced, "there is no place for a brick to fall." You look more carefully with forecasts, otherwise we can read and obey))) I understand that you know better from the other side of what is happening here))) Well, we can see from ours too))) EP is the best game in the world))) the election results don't lie?))) like our AHL is the best president for you)))
          1. Finches
            Finches 14 September 2020 20: 03
            +2
            You are selling your story, selling your grandfathers ... My great-grandfather is one of the Grodno fashions, he passed the war ... He died a long time ago, and so he turns over in his grave, as you, young, but bad growth, destroy the millennial brotherhood and lie down under the Anglo-Saxons. .. And then live as you want! If you want to take out feces from under the Anglo-Saxons - who can prohibit you, advanced Belarusians, - the Ukrainians take out the chamber pots from under the Europeans, they obviously lack your competition! Good luck! hi

            PS According to the laws of capitalism - competition forces the employer to pay more while improving the quality of services provided - so train old Europeans to change diapers gently, otherwise you will not outplay Ukrainians and you will be running errands for talcum powder and cotton swabs to the nearest European pharmacy! laughing
    2. Kamarada
      Kamarada 14 September 2020 11: 21
      +2
      Mattresses are best friends, so where you can stir up and then fish. And I must admit they succeeded in this.
  3. Sanche
    Sanche 14 September 2020 10: 25
    0
    And this is the statement by US Undersecretary of State Stephen Bigan:

    If the Kremlin continues to act in the same spirit (to support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of turning against itself the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.

    A rare case where you can agree with the Americans
    1. Pravodel
      Pravodel 14 September 2020 11: 20
      0
      If the Kremlin continues to act in the same spirit (to support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of turning against itself the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.
      A rare case where you can agree with the Americans


      Agreeing with the Americans, please remove the phrase
      Russia risks turning the Belarusian people against itself

      Russia, supporting the legitimate power in Belarus, does not risk anything in relation to the people of White Russia. Moreover, it creates an opportunity for the people of White Russia for normal development and existence, and not for vegetation in history and the transformation of White Russia into another Ukraine.
      1. tandem
        tandem 14 September 2020 18: 52
        -2
        the leadership of the Russian Federation supporting the dictatorship sets the people against itself. With this power, there will be no development, there will be existence. And there will be no life
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 14 September 2020 20: 32
          0
          Quote: tandem
          the leadership of the Russian Federation supporting the dictatorship sets the people against itself.

          what people? Natsik white red white? What is it like? these devils have always hated Russia, how can they be turned against if they are already against? and I don't care about these outcasts wassat they are not Belarusians, they are zamagars yes
          Quote: tandem
          With this power, there will be no development, there will be existence. And there will be no life

          so go to Poland like your neighbors from Ukraine laughing there you will be given a rag and ruffs and a toilet will be allocated and you will have life! civilized, European! good
          1. tandem
            tandem 14 September 2020 20: 44
            -2
            do not splash saliva like that. No arguments, keep quiet
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 14 September 2020 20: 50
              0
              arguments above. do not know how to read? Why then did you come to the forum?
              and the Zamagar adherents will be kicked out of Belarus along with their white-red-white rags wink
              learn polish laughing
              1. tandem
                tandem 14 September 2020 22: 05
                -1
                I see no arguments. Only screams.
                And if a remains, then yes. We'll have to learn Polish, unfortunately
                1. Sanichsan
                  Sanichsan 14 September 2020 22: 11
                  0
                  Quote: tandem
                  And if a remains, then yes. We'll have to learn Polish, unfortunately

                  Of course! yes I described the reasons above to you wink zmagars will be kicked out to their Polish masters, or to Ukraine, like those two protestors laughing I advise you to run straight to Poland. with Ukraine it is not yet known how it will turn. if anything, you may not have time to escape to Poland from there ... bully
                  1. tandem
                    tandem 14 September 2020 22: 18
                    0
                    the reason is the economic failure of the Lukashenka Republic of Belarus. Zmagars, as you call them, do not break in RP. They, you see, want to live in their homeland. And there is no need to scare Poland. People who moved there for permanent residence are happy.
                    Those two were taken to Ukraine by cops. They could not go. Like Kolesnikova. And she, along the way, has a strong grip
                    And the BCHB flag will be the state one, this is inevitable.
                    1. Sanichsan
                      Sanichsan 14 September 2020 22: 37
                      -1
                      Quote: tandem
                      And the BCHB flag will be the state one, this is inevitable.


                      how are these? not No. it didn't work then and won't work now. yes
                      Quote: tandem
                      the leadership of the Russian Federation supporting the dictatorship sets the people against itself.

                      So we figured out what kind of "people" you have. I am forced to disappoint you, the fascist henchmen are not the Belarusian people. it is an infection that will be exterminated and the Russian Federation will help the Belarusian people with this.
                      and you have a cover wassat
                      1. tandem
                        tandem 15 September 2020 17: 02
                        0
                        and where are the photographs depicting the murder of people by the NKVD-shniki? and for BCHB in RB the majority
                      2. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 16 September 2020 17: 42
                        0
                        Quote: tandem
                        and for BCHB in RB the majority

                        fortunately this is not the case. not at all laughing regular 10%, and soon they will not be wink
  4. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 14 September 2020 11: 34
    +4
    Quote: Sanche
    when can you agree with the Americans


    Not worth it. Luka himself is one hundred percent to blame, who started the games in Belarus 10 years ago. The trouble is that already devout youth have grown up who believe that they need lace panties in the EU as well. These, in any case, were and will be against Russia ..
    1. My doctor
      My doctor 14 September 2020 19: 03
      0
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      the food is that already devout youth have grown up who believe that they need lace panties in the EU.

      Never mind, by the next elections in five years another youth will grow up, dreaming of red cast-iron panties laughing
    2. tandem
      tandem 14 September 2020 22: 22
      +1
      and when the pro-Russian bloggers were imprisoned, the GDP said that this was an internal affair of the Republic of Belarus
  • Alien From
    Alien From 14 September 2020 10: 25
    +5
    At the Varvara bazaar, the nose was torn off ... long ...
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 14 September 2020 10: 30
    +5
    If the Kremlin continues to support Lukashenko
    We are supporting Belarus and the Belarusian people.
    1. viralig
      viralig 14 September 2020 14: 26
      +2
      Specific people are possible, but the official position of the Kremlin looks strange.
    2. tandem
      tandem 14 September 2020 18: 53
      -2
      now your leadership supports the BSSR, not the people
  • Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 14 September 2020 10: 30
    14
    We will not let Lukashenka sell our land.

    what does that mean? Are you ready to sell the land yourself? ..

    I visited the same thought)))
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 10: 31
    -17 qualifying.
    Quote: Finches
    Yes, we will somehow figure it out at home! You have already helped the Ukrainians - a civil war has been going on for 6 years! This is exactly what you want to do in Belarus, so that you can climb west to east!

    "civil" war is when Buryat tankers, Kursk air defense officers, etc. do not come "to the rescue".
    1. Unknown
      Unknown 14 September 2020 10: 57
      +3
      Quote: Igor Litvin
      Quote: Finches
      Yes, we will somehow figure it out at home! You have already helped the Ukrainians - a civil war has been going on for 6 years! This is exactly what you want to do in Belarus, so that you can climb west to east!

      "civil" war is when Buryat tankers, Kursk air defense officers, etc. do not come "to the rescue".
      .. well, while there is no need, if the "hardy lads" from the "square" do not come, yes the Baltic Varangians, as well as the lords of Poland to help democracy and national revival, with the subsequent emasculation of all Russian from the history of Belarus. then come and wait.
      1. tandem
        tandem 14 September 2020 18: 55
        -1
        According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Belarus, 200 Wagner fighters have already arrived.
    2. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 14 September 2020 11: 00
      +4
      As far as I understand, Igor did not teach you history at all? The war of the north and south in the USA was not a civil war? In Spain, from 36 to 39, what was it? Finally, what happened from 1917 to 1922?
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 September 2020 11: 02
      +9
      Quote: Igor Litvin
      "civil" war is when Buryat tankers, Kursk air defense officers, etc. do not come "to the rescue".

      Exactly!
      Only American and British special forces and NATO aircraft have the right to come to the rescue.
      But the fact that this is not a civil war, I agree.
      On the one hand, the Nazis, who are carrying out a punitive operation, are trying to tie the maximum number of citizens of the country in blood. On the other hand, their political opponents, who have used the right to self-determination (hello, Kosovo) and defend their country.

      That is, it is the aggression of the Nazi pseudo-state (Ukraine) against another state. "Pseudo" because a full-fledged state, in which the authorities are unable to control the formations acting supposedly on its behalf, cannot be called. We do not consider Somalia to be a full-fledged power ..
  • rocket757
    rocket757 14 September 2020 10: 32
    +6
    Not everyone is ready to live according to "prompts" from over the hill.
    People make the choice themselves.
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 10: 33
    -9
    On the whole - the truth! The absolute majority of the Belarusian people have a good attitude towards Russia. Not to mention the interconnectedness of the economy. Lukashenka managed to turn his personal problem into a problem of two states. If Putin goes along with this, a deterioration in attitudes towards Russia will follow, which would not be desirable ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 14 September 2020 10: 38
      +4
      If Putin goes along with this, a deterioration in attitudes towards Russia will follow, which would not be desirable ...
      If the pro-Western opposition of Belarus wins through a coup d'etat, it will be even worse ... an example of Ukraine is not enough for you? hi
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 12: 15
      0
      Quote: Igor Litvin
      If Putin goes about this, a deterioration in attitudes towards Russia will follow, which would not be desirable

      And improving relations with the West. Do you believe that?
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 10: 35
    -7
    Quote: alex-s
    And this is the statement by US Undersecretary of State Stephen Bigan:

    If the Kremlin continues to act in the same spirit (to support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of turning against itself the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.



    Everyone has long known that the best friends of the Belarusians are the Americans)))

    "Everyone" is who ?! Can I have examples?
    1. Pravodel
      Pravodel 14 September 2020 11: 29
      +1
      If the Kremlin continues to act in the same spirit (to support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of turning against itself the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.


      Russia, supporting the legitimate power in Belarus, does not risk anything in relation to the people of White Russia. Moreover, it creates an opportunity for the people of White Russia for normal development and existence, and not for vegetation in history and the transformation of White Russia into another Ukraine.

      Everyone has long known that the best friends of the Belarusians are the Americans)))

      Absolutely everyone: all enlightened humanity, all democratic countries and all those countries to which the United States has brought and is going to bring democracy.
      Only Iran, China, North Korea, and yes, and Russia too do not know this.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 14 September 2020 10: 38
    -10 qualifying.
    I disagree with the article ... but with the title of the article:

    In the West: If the Kremlin continues to support Lukashenka, Russia risks turning the Belarusian people against itself

    Also I do not agree with everything ... I will say soooo ...


    If the Kremlin continues to support Lukashenko, Russia will turn the Belarusian people against itself

    ... and minus me minus ... since you are prescribed in the manuals to minus those who somehow understands this life ...

    bully
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 12: 17
      -2
      Quote: Corona without virus
      and minus me minus ... since you are prescribed in the manuals to minus those who somehow understands this life ...

      Well then, live according to the manuals prescribed by the West. There is no third.
      1. viralig
        viralig 14 September 2020 14: 34
        +3
        Well, yes - that is, can you live only by methods? Eastern or Western.
        If so, then it is clear that there is no a priori choice. We want specific individuals to get off our neck. And you shove them back to us with a song that this is our choice.
        And you deeply do not care what will happen to us. And in what then YOU are better than the West? The same face masks of indifference.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 14 September 2020 15: 38
          -2
          Quote: viralig
          We want specific individuals to get off our neck.

          Well, there is a neck, there is a clamp. We do not give a damn, but the clamp is your business, but not ours, choose any.
    2. Pensive Lawyer
      Pensive Lawyer 15 September 2020 12: 19
      0
      I will surprise you very much, but, for the most part, in Russia, it doesn't matter how Belarusians treat it. We need a loyal regime. The management decided, instead of looking for a new candidate, for the time being to drive the AHL (which I do not quite agree on, political corpses should be disposed of, not resurrected).
      What do ordinary citizens think there, besides, the Republic of Bashkortostan - the Russian authorities do not care deeply. People are not what they were 30 years ago. They can shout and run from law enforcement officers. To lure him into an alley and beat him there with a crowd - too.
      In a direct collision, a civilian's intestines are already thin. Because there is something to lose. Whining about how hard life is, in most cases comes down to the fact that there is not enough money for luxury goods and needs that cannot be attributed to basic ones. Caviar for bread. Cinema cafes. Rest abroad.
      And for the sake of the above, no one will die or climb the barricades even with minimal resistance from the authorities.
  • andrew42
    andrew42 14 September 2020 10: 40
    +8
    Oh-oh-oh, how scary. The Kremlin runs the risk of "turning" the Belarusian people against itself. Firstly, not the Kremlin, but the Russian people. Secondly, he no longer risks anything, except perhaps by giving Belarus a "NATO site" in the form of Ukraine # 2. Thirdly, in such a matter as the relations between Russia and Belarus, sneeze all over Geyropa from a tall tree, and even more so on Danish. ... There are 85 regions of us, and there are even more peoples, structurally we are too huge to talk about big politics with a separate non-sovereign EU member on an equal footing. All right, Germany, or France, here you can still listen, and not really, at least until you get rid of the American "Brussels collar". In general, a scared hedgehog is known to be naked.
    1. dauria
      dauria 14 September 2020 11: 19
      -6
      In general, a scared hedgehog is known than naked


      Good mood, straight state, without quotes. Not giving Belarus to NATO - that's right. One question, what scared the hedgehog in 2014, what did he give to Ukraine?
      And here's another thing. Putin is not a hedgehog, he is a spokesman for the hedgehogs. And they are shy, and they all have a belly without needles in the form of a sweet life beyond the hill.
      1. Alex_Bora
        Alex_Bora 14 September 2020 12: 17
        +2
        Alas ... He is not the "Father of Nations" ...
  • Yrec
    Yrec 14 September 2020 10: 42
    10
    For a long time Lukashenka twisted his backside between us and the West. And if Putin's patience is infinite, then the Western goat-takers are, in the end, tired of it. They put the dad, in fact, outside of the "international law". And if something happened, dad would have to buy a one-way ticket to Rostov-dad. In my opinion, the only way out is the integration of Belarus according to the "Crimean scenario". That "integration into the Union State", which lasted for the last 20 years, in fact, went with zero result. As long as Putin is in power and he has the support of the population in both the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, as well as authority in the world, this is possible. If suddenly Putin does not become (it does not matter at the moment why), the position of the Russian Federation in the international arena will dramatically weaken and we will have no time for Belarus. If you look at Crimea and Ukraine now, the choice is obvious, I think. The hegemon has grown decrepit and staggered, as soon as his crutch breaks in the form of an all-conquering dollar, various limitrophes (tribalts, for example) and "undecided" (RB, for example) will turn into dust in the wind.
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 14 September 2020 12: 27
      -1
      They are trying to expose the whole of Belarus outside the bounds of international law, like some kind of Papuan, spitting on the people and their choice, to destroy the country and squeeze out the territory, the people to fight the Russians or as slaves, and this will eventually hate the people of Belarus.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 14 September 2020 10: 54
    +1
    Based on these statements, we can conclude that the Kremlin should support some colorless characters who cannot even be called personalities. In addition, these characters conduct an openly Russophobic policy (or rather, shout Russophobic slogans) and run on a short leash by the mattresses.
    Yes ... The logic of "inosmi", as always, is on top! Slightly below the baseboard.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 14 September 2020 20: 45
      -1
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      and run on a short leash by the mattresses.

      at mattresses?!? if. among the Pshek and the Balts. if the states, it is clear who is the boss, but then some kind of tin. sixes sixes request
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 10: 55
    +4
    Quote: The same Lech
    If Putin goes along with this, a deterioration in attitudes towards Russia will follow, which would not be desirable ...
    If the pro-Western opposition of Belarus wins through a coup d'etat, it will be even worse ... an example of Ukraine is not enough for you? hi

    1) who is the "opposition"? A dozen marginalized people who have no influence on the public? Today's protests are popular, which is why they are stupid, ineffective and poorly organized.
    2) Are you sure the protesters are pro-Western? People are against the trade in sovereignty, on which the AHL, as they say, "ate the dog." People want certainty: we do not trade in sovereignty, we want close friendly relations with the Russian Federation, which does not exclude economic contacts with other countries in the West and Asia. Or do you like lying in exchange for oil?
    3) a coup is always bad. If Lukashenka arrives at work as usual after November 9, what will it be called? After all, he was not elected.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 12: 24
      0
      Quote: Igor Litvin
      we want close friendly relations with the Russian Federation, which does not exclude economic contacts with other countries in the West and Asia. Or do you like lying in exchange for oil?

      I wonder what contacts with the West look like, and on what basis?
  • Egoza
    Egoza 14 September 2020 10: 55
    +6
    Since the West is against it, it means we must support!
    1. viralig
      viralig 14 September 2020 12: 21
      0
      Egoza - your statement is at the level - I will frostbite my ears for evil. And here is the fate of people. And there can be no unequivocal answer to this question. Or you are not in the domain, that the situation will not collapse by itself. God forbid changing to a more bloody version. The actions of the authorities are pushing for this.
  • dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 14 September 2020 10: 57
    +5
    When enemies start scolding you, it means you are doing everything right
    1. viralig
      viralig 14 September 2020 12: 37
      +1
      With this position, friends and enemies are not needed.
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 10: 59
    -4
    Quote: Egoza
    Since the West is against it, it means we must support!

    Brilliant! The West is also against sati and cannibalism - will you support?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 September 2020 11: 02
    +2
    In a world where there is the United States, any action is a risk.
  • Operator
    Operator 14 September 2020 11: 07
    -1
    Belarus should hold a referendum on joining the Russian Federation, appoint Lukashenko as the head of a new subject of the Federation by decree of the President of Russia, and deport all local residents with Pole cards to their historical homeland - let them dance around the clock under the leadership of their "elected president" Tikhanovskaya.
    1. Romka
      Romka 14 September 2020 11: 24
      +1
      In Belarus, votes are not counted. This means that there is no point in the referendum. (80% of the percent "say the right thing"). Personally, I do not mind entering, but most are unlikely.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 14 September 2020 12: 26
        -2
        Quote: Romka
        Personally, I am not against entering, but most are unlikely.

        And how did you figure it out that the majority is against it?
        1. Romka
          Romka 14 September 2020 13: 08
          +2
          I live in RB. I communicate with people. And if in business these sentiments are 50/50, then the rest of the population, as it is, do not burn for unification. The majority, let's say, are satisfied with the current situation. The absolute majority does not want to go to Europe, but they want normal relations with Poland and Lithuania. Since such an option is not possible with AHL, then 90% (and do not be surprised) the current "president" does not suit (both "left" and "right")
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 14 September 2020 14: 29
            0
            Quote: Romka
            And if in business these sentiments are 50/50, then the rest of the population, as it is, do not burn for unification.

            Business, as I understand it, trade, transportation, services, IT technologies, but not production? But this is no more than a fifth of the population, and the rest must work in enterprises and agriculture? And how to relate this to reality.
            1. Romka
              Romka 14 September 2020 14: 49
              +3
              I do not quite understand the essence of your claim, but as for business, not everyone benefits from the arrival of Russian capital (primarily large capital). For me, a small merchant (sales + services), the introduction, for example, of the Russian ruble is only a plus, and it does not matter who will be the major primary supplier of goods in my segment.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 14 September 2020 15: 52
                0
                Quote: Romka
                I do not quite understand the essence of your claim

                This is not a claim, but a question. You answered yourself, I agree. But not everyone is in business. And how they look at the situation that you have now.
                1. Romka
                  Romka 14 September 2020 18: 27
                  0
                  For example, my wife does not want to unite with Russia. She believes that the Russians coming to us now behave like guests culturally, but sometimes arrogantly. If the Republic of Belarus becomes a subject of the Russian Federation, the "Muscovites" will think of themselves as "descendants of the gods." There is some truth in this. But in fairness, Minsk residents behave in the same way in Lithuania.
                  Back in the seventies, my mother, a young specialist with a university education, went to "conquer" the Urals (more specifically, Perm, where my great-uncle was once exiled). So, according to her, Belarus was considered there "the tsar's outskirts." Maybe they were right, but now times have changed, and today the location of the country is geopolitically advantageous. Nobody in the Republic of Bashkortostan, if he is going to emigrate, is no further than St. Petersburg and Moscow, and young people hardly know about such cities as Ekatirenburg, Omsk, Irkutsk. Hence the mood of the people - consumer: access to the EU, cheap energy resources from the Russian Federation, European democracy and Russian prices. wink And what about Lukashenka? When the pandemic struck, he behaved, to put it mildly, wrong. And people themselves, without being directed from above, began to put on masks, take children for forced vacations, switch to "remote". (In this regard, your Sobyanin is just a fine fellow!) And everyone understood that the merit of that life in the Republic of Bashkortostan was not in any way the president, but themselves!
                  1. Cyril G ...
                    Cyril G ... 14 September 2020 19: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: Romka
                    access to the EU, cheap energy resources from the Russian Federation, European democracy and Russian prices.

                    It does not happen.
                  2. MMX
                    MMX 14 September 2020 20: 09
                    0
                    If the Republic of Belarus becomes a subject of the Russian Federation, then "Muscovites" will think of themselves as "descendants of the gods"


                    Hmm ... I don’t want to unite because Muscovites will think of themselves there ... And after that the Russians are accused of zombifying TV wassat
    2. viralig
      viralig 14 September 2020 12: 26
      +3
      Immediately, no, the people of the AHL will not accept in any status.
      And after the entry, the country will be divided in half. And the further, the fewer supporters will be.
      Pro with maps of the Pole. Let's send the Germans to Germany, and so on. It's easier to level the whole country in a place with the population. No aroda - no problem. So what do you think?
      Problems must be solved and not left from them.
      1. Operator
        Operator 14 September 2020 13: 14
        -3
        The status of the head of the subject of the Russian Federation for Lukashenka will clearly be temporary laughing

        PS You, apparently, are not aware that practically all Russian Germans (with rare exceptions) have voluntarily moved to Germany since 1992.
        1. viralig
          viralig 14 September 2020 14: 45
          +1
          Operator, you may not have seen the little "etc." I was just showing that your expressions are close to nationalistic. And that a third of Belarusians, in your opinion, should go to Poland because they also had Polish roots. At such a pace, it is not far from fascism.
          1. Operator
            Operator 14 September 2020 14: 50
            -3
            And where does "etc." - The cat cried out for the Germans and Jews in Russia, and the rest of the main non-Russian peoples are indigenous, i.e. they have nowhere to be sent abroad (unlike the Poles, whose historical homeland has a place to be separate from the Russian Federation).
            1. viralig
              viralig 14 September 2020 15: 02
              +2
              You can find out where this historical border passed between Poland and Belarus, and for what year it is considered correct. And damn it, many families of Poles in the territory of present-day Belarus have lived for centuries. And why deport them? So samizh haite the Balts for such actions. What's the difference?
              I just need to be human. And nationality has nothing to do with it.
              1. Operator
                Operator 14 September 2020 15: 13
                -3
                Yes, let the Poles live on the territory of the Union State - but exactly until the moment when they receive a Pole's card and go out to anti-government demonstrations.

                PS Do not confuse the Russians in the Baltics (to whom the Balts, instead of local passports, in violation of EU legislation, were issued Alien documents - "aliens") with the Poles in Belarus (who were given passports of Belarusian citizens, but who of their own free will got into the cards of Poles).
                1. viralig
                  viralig 14 September 2020 15: 28
                  +1
                  So you have a kilometer of people with dual, sometimes triple citizenship. Why, I do not observe their mass deportation to London and further down the list.
                  And here people with this card are easier to hit the road to Poland for shopping or to work. For its state, except for sweeping the streets, can not offer anything for 10 years or even more.
                  1. Operator
                    Operator 15 September 2020 10: 16
                    -1
                    So that's what we are talking about, to change the state - from Belarusian to Russian.

                    And we ask all those who disagree to go out - to the coveted Europe for lace panties. Those. absolutely amicable situation.
                2. Terrible GMO
                  Terrible GMO 14 September 2020 23: 04
                  -1
                  Quote: Operator
                  with Poles in Belarus (who were given passports of Belarusian citizens ,.

                  fool
                  Find that idiot who wants to get a Belarusian passport. Even blacks disdain, and residents of Donbass left back unable to withstand "stability". Poles will not even think about a Belarusian passport under any circumstances. Which can be annulled in a second if you dare to say something that the authorities do not like.

                  Quote: Operator
                  with the Poles in Belarus (who were given passports of Belarusian citizens, but who of their own free will got into the cards of the Poles).

                  And this is generally a stream of incoherent thoughts. I bring to your attention that Belarusians who have Poles in their family and who can confirm this with documents receive this very card. And in contrast to the "stable and airy", the Polish government is interested in new citizens and provides them with support with housing, training, cash benefits for the first time.
        2. tandem
          tandem 14 September 2020 20: 32
          0
          I deny Not everything. Many stayed. And some have returned. The fact is that there are no Germans in Russia. There are Russians with German roots.
  • pipetro
    pipetro 14 September 2020 11: 20
    -1
    Those. Belarus, like Ukraine, needs to sell land only to American transnational corporations and be under the full influence of exclusively Western "partners"? What kind of fools should you consider the people to whom they sell it?
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 14 September 2020 11: 21
    +1
    Lukashenko flew to Sochi flying over the territory of Ukraine. Its security was provided by the Russian Aerospace Forces.
  • g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 14 September 2020 11: 22
    -1
    The opposition is running around the rallies like headless chickens. Their heads have long been separate from abroad. If only to muddy the water. Not a single sensible proposal, continuous calls to take mail, telegraph and wine and vodka near Smolny. Power is not candy to be handed out to everyone in the yard or taken away in the gateway. No plans, no specifics, sheer booze and farce. Where are the demands for a public recount of the voting results? Whoever you listen to - I didn’t vote, we don’t recognize, 80% cannot be ... well, raise the ballots and publish your choice openly to compare. Has anyone seen the program of action after the item "Select"? Something seems to me that the "Divide" item below is deciphered in very small letters and specifically with non-Belarusian surnames. The opposition is unlikely to bring "Swedish communism" to Belarusians from across the hill for free distribution.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 14: 40
      -2
      Quote: g1washntwn
      The opposition runs around the rallies like headless chickens. Their heads have long been separate from abroad.

      The head is in Europe, but you have to eat in Belarus. And how to align the belly and the head?
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 14 September 2020 15: 03
        -2
        What the opposition eats inside the target country is comparable to the daily earnings of beggars in an underground passage. The main income from various "funds for the support of democracy" and others like them. And this is how we understand everything in the West. And the head of the opposition rolled off to the same place. So everything that bites this head falls out back into the same feeder. The cycle of 30 pieces of silver in nature. The body is meat that runs in circles, it doesn't need food anymore. Sorry for rough comparisons, but these are my associations when I watch some "protesters".
  • Tektor
    Tektor 14 September 2020 11: 28
    +5
    And this is true: Luka cannot be supported as a full-fledged leader of Belarus. He still has dubious legitimacy, which requires confirmation. But for now, Luke is still acting within the framework of a full-fledged President, since the inauguration has not yet taken place ... he has not yet finished his last presidential term.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 14 September 2020 12: 07
    +1
    Belarus is not an independent country, it will still have to deal with the Russians or the West. But judging by the affairs in Ukraine, the Belarusians have nothing to count on, the West is only interested in the ashes ................ ..
  • Cycle boss
    Cycle boss 14 September 2020 12: 11
    +1
    Probably the entire world order is destabilized specifically to start a global redistribution. Corporate wars. The elite will redistribute the "world resources", the people will also work for a "conditional piece of bread".
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 14 September 2020 12: 14
    0
    There is nothing to call the Judas people but the West with such actions of the Republic of Belarus. pushes towards Russia.
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 12: 51
    +2
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Igor Litvin
    we want close friendly relations with the Russian Federation, which does not exclude economic contacts with other countries in the West and Asia. Or do you like lying in exchange for oil?

    I wonder what contacts with the West look like, and on what basis?

    They look great - tours, resorts, etc.
    Our economy is tied to the Russian Federation - do you understand that?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 14: 46
      -1
      Quote: Igor Litvin
      They look great - tours, resorts, etc.

      And keep saying that you live poorly
    2. tandem
      tandem 14 September 2020 20: 39
      -1
      Don't worry too much. Job description does not allow local trolls to perceive logical arguments
  • iouris
    iouris 14 September 2020 12: 59
    +1
    Anti-Lukashenka propaganda. It is necessary to unite the country and change the system. Or everyone should go to this West. Are they waiting for you there?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 14: 49
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Or everyone should go to this West. Are they waiting for you there?

      Just like in America, it is not for nothing that Trump is building a wall between South and North America, and it seems all Americans.
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 13: 02
    0
    Quote: Finches
    That is, the "air conditioners" in peaceful houses began to explode from the flight of Russian attack aircraft over the territory of Donetsk? Did I understand correctly? And the questions about Crimea are not for me, this is for the people of Crimea - this is their decision to leave Ukraine, which fell ill with Western nationalism and fell under the Anglo-Saxons!

    This is not my war. In essence, your question is about the Luhansk administration? Then a counter question to you - what caliber bomb from a Ukrainian attack aircraft damaged the air conditioner? 250kg? 500kg? How many buildings were destroyed and dozens or hundreds of people died from this "bomb"? What is the size of the crater from the Ukrainian bomb? Where are the fragments, well, is there a shank, etc.?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 14 September 2020 13: 19
      +2
      There was even a video on the network .... and not bombs, but NURS ... they documented everything. Some kind of "White Book" got ...
  • Igor Litvin
    Igor Litvin 14 September 2020 13: 06
    +4
    Quote: g1washntwn
    The opposition runs around the rallies like headless chickens ...

    Apparently you know the opposition, whom do you personally mean? Well, there "Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov ..."?
    The rallies are absolutely stupid. Because they are popular, without a clear leadership. People are protesting against the cynicism of the authorities and electoral fraud.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 14 September 2020 14: 55
      -3
      Quote: Igor Litvin
      People are protesting against the cynicism of the authorities and election fraud.

      Well, they will remove cynicism and admit falsification of elections, but no matter how much I ask, no one answers the question "What will happen next?" Will cynicism disappear and falsifications will stop and life will become "like Christ's in the bosom."
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 14 September 2020 22: 48
        +1
        They have a carrot in front of their noses, and then saliva prevents them from looking.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 September 2020 08: 36
          -1
          Quote: Campanella
          They have a carrot in front of their noses, and then saliva prevents them from looking.

          When I ask, there are no answers, they just put a minus out of the blue. So be men say, "We want it like an independent europpu."
          1. Campanella
            Campanella 15 September 2020 09: 23
            +1
            The fact of the matter is that it is youth.
            Green, stupid, full of hope.
            They simply cannot see long-term prospects and hope that a bright future will come to each of them.
            And they don’t understand how the state in which they will live will look like. Or they simply don’t associate their fate with Belarus, primitively thinking about its “European” fate.
            While Russia is alive, Belarus has only two choices: either to be with us or to be our enemies.
            And they consciously or unconsciously choose the second one.
            And this is war in its various manifestations.
            And any generation becomes its hostages and participants automatically and no bright future. This is how the innocent idea of ​​"free" choice becomes a fatal mistake.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 15 September 2020 10: 00
              +1
              Quote: Campanella
              This is how the innocent idea of ​​"free" choice becomes a fatal mistake.

              This is true - no country in the world has received freedom by "free choice".
      2. Artyom Volgin
        Artyom Volgin 15 September 2020 00: 56
        11
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And what will happen next ?

        And then Europe will help them arrange "European life": privatization of enterprises, sale of land, closure of factories, etc.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 September 2020 10: 02
          +1
          Quote: Artem Volgin
          And then Europe will help them arrange "European life": privatization of enterprises, sale of land, closure of factories, etc.

          Yes, this is understandable to the majority, but only a small handful of the population and adherents of the West do not understand this.
    2. Artyom Volgin
      Artyom Volgin 15 September 2020 00: 57
      12
      Quote: Igor Litvin
      rigging elections

      A month has passed, and so no one has presented evidence of election fraud ...
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 15 September 2020 06: 31
        +1
        If you start digging, then there is most likely dug up and the opposition with foreign interference.
        If the "interim government" were really white and fluffy, they would have initiated it long ago.
        In addition, nowadays, the trend is "highlike" from their curators, the main thing is to cluck louder, and the evidence will only break their whole hype.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 September 2020 10: 07
        0
        Quote: Artem Volgin
        A month has passed, and so no one has presented evidence of election fraud ...

        It turns out that there was no falsification, just as there is no evidence of Navalny's poisoning. It looks like a batch of one bowl with sourdough.
  • Operator
    Operator 14 September 2020 13: 11
    -4
    Quote: Romka
    80% of percent will "say it right"

    Moreover, it is time to hold a referendum.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 15 September 2020 06: 27
      +3
      Got some cons from Polish bots and Belarusian "ducklings"? However, like many.
      But about the referendum it is necessary to say - "it's too late to drink Borjomi", it was necessary to formulate one's attitude at the last elections more clearly, and not to harass and quietly vote for Lukashenko, after running around opposition rallies. If you grab onto bricks, this is an indicator of "stupidity", unwillingness and inability to use the already provided legal mechanisms. This is called "political overstepping of the limits of self-defense." Re-evolution.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 September 2020 10: 08
      -1
      Quote: Operator
      Moreover, it is time to hold a referendum.

      You, who are still not tired of "Walking on the Pain", want to continue.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 September 2020 13: 18
    +1
    The main thing is that they always know best.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 14 September 2020 15: 02
    -3
    I myself am by birth - 33/33/33 percent Slavic - both Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians are noted in my genealogy ... hi

    But ... looking at the minuses ... which the Zaputins always put on me ... I will give an anecdote that I found on anecdote.ru - I first heard it in a non-polar form 35+ years ago ...

    Little Moisha comes home, comes to mom, and says:
    - Mom, mom, and today at school I wrote in the column "Nationality" that I'm Russian!
    “Son, what did you eat for lunch every day?”
    - chicken
    - Here, and now you will eat potatoes, like all Russian children.
    Moysha was upset, went to dad, thinks maybe dad will approve.
    Coming to dad:
    - Dad, dad, and today in the column "Nationality" at school I wrote sho I'm Russian!
    - Son, what did you go to school every day on?
    - By car, Dad!
    - Here, and now you will ride a tram, like all Russian children.
    Moysha, completely upset, comes to grandfather, suddenly he approves:
    - Grandfather, grandfather, and today I wrote in the column "Nationality" I'm Russian!
    - Granddaughters, how much did you get pocket money every day in school?
    - The steward, grandfather!
    - Here, and now you will receive a rupe, like all Russian children.
    Moysha was completely upset; he sits down with his family for dinner.
    Everyone is eating a chicken, winking at each other.
    Moysha is eating potatoes.
    Then mom asks Moisha:
    “Well, son, how are you going to be Russian?”
    - ... !!!, just a couple of hours, like a Russian, and already I hate you Jews !!!

    I consider myself Russian - but I hate you zaputintsy !!!!
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 14 September 2020 22: 44
      +1
      Easier, easier ... and then the bowler hat will burst with hatred!
      White, white is very hot.
    2. Artyom Volgin
      Artyom Volgin 15 September 2020 00: 56
      +9
      Quote: Crown without virus
      I myself - by birth - 33/33/33 percent Slav - both Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians were noted in my pedigree

      I have the same. But
      Quote: Crown without virus
      I consider myself Russian - but I hate you, Zaputintsy !!!!

      I am not confusedand I hate people like you. hi
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 15 September 2020 01: 32
        -1
        Quote: Artem Volgin
        Quote: Crown without virus
        I myself - by birth - 33/33/33 percent Slav - both Russians, Belarusians, and Ukrainians were noted in my pedigree

        I have the same. But
        Quote: Crown without virus
        I consider myself Russian - but I hate you, Zaputintsy !!!!

        I am not confusedand I hate people like you. hi

        See you then !!! bully hi
        1. Artyom Volgin
          Artyom Volgin 16 September 2020 13: 54
          +2
          Quote: Corona without virus
          See you then !!! bully hi

          See you soon! wink hi
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 September 2020 16: 56
    +1
    and now, in the neighboring beds, each self-respecting non-brother has an SS bandage dug in the neighborhood with a schmeiser and a party card with a Kalashnikov. laughing
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 14 September 2020 20: 30
    -3
    Quote: Tatiana
    Statement by US Undersecretary of State Stephen Bigan:
    If the Kremlin will continue act in the same spirit (support Lukashenko), then Russia runs the risk of antagonizing the Belarusian people, who have no problems with the Russian Federation, with Moscow.

    Problems exist and they are reflected even at the level of political fetishism.
    1. The Belarusian opposition has Polish and Lithuanian flags.
    2. In the Russian Federation, Lenin in the mausoleum is an ideological fetish, like a flag, of the Soviet regime and the socialist system and a beam in the eye of the liberal - bourgeois and religious - opposition.

    It is noteworthy that right now the Russian Union of Architects of Russia suddenly became concerned about the re-profiling of Lenin's mausoleum after the removal of Lenin's body from there. Why did he suddenly worry about it?
    А because it now directly concerns the performances of the anti-Lukashenka opposition in the Republic of Belarus. And therefore, this circumstance should be viewed as joint political actions of the West against our countries - against the union of Belarus with Russia. Namely.

    First, the The Russian Union of Architects (ROA) has long been inherently turned into a foreign NGO in the Russian state and uses DOUBLE political standards.
    And secondly. It is known that Lukashenka preserved the people's property, state-owned enterprises and social guarantees for the working people in Belarus. social features of the Soviet socialist state.
    And if Lenin is taken out of the mausoleum in Russia, then For pro-Russian-Soviet Belarusians, this will become a SIGNAL not to reunite with Russia. This is exactly what the West wants.

    What did Lukashenka keep? Another one and a half billion dollars out of the pockets of the Russians Will go to Belorussia. And not the last, then he will be overthrown, like all dictators, and Russia will remain at a broken trough, as always. Nobody is going to pay back debts, let's write off what is there.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 15 September 2020 01: 26
    -1
    That's cool, some of the USA do not risk anything, although they cut their nickel into holes that a normal person will not look into. They climb up some idiots to support, disturbing the normal people with "technologies" without a goal. What will they say in this case? "Russia welcome to the mess dedicated exclusively to you"?
  • Andrew 40
    Andrew 40 15 September 2020 09: 37
    0
    Quote: Finches
    Yes, we will somehow figure it out at home! You have already helped the Ukrainians - a civil war has been going on for 6 years! This is exactly what you want to do in Belarus, so that you can climb west to east!

    Of course they do. I hope our leaders will be smart enough to accelerate the construction of a union state without the right to withdraw, otherwise a second Ukraine will appear at our side sooner or later.
  • Operator
    Operator 15 September 2020 10: 17
    -1
    Quote: TerribleGMO
    unlike the "stable and airy", the Polish government is interested in new citizens and provides them with support with housing, education, financial benefits

    We warmly support the Polish government in this regard.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 15 September 2020 11: 31
    0
    And for the West, who is the Belarusian people?))) Like Ukraine is Zelensky Kolomoisky and the like
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 15 September 2020 16: 34
    0
    And the West would not hurt to listen and UNDERSTAND Putin. And he said that Russia will abide by the treaties with Belarus, whoever is in power there. And in this Russia radically differs from the same West. And Russia gives money to Belarus not to support the protests, but to support the economy and the construction of industrial facilities.