British general: Russian Burevestnik missile can move in the atmosphere for years

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The British press published a statement by the head of the country's military intelligence, Lieutenant General James (Jim) Hockenhall. The statement was published by The Sunday Telegraph.

The British general raised the issue of the vulnerability of the United Kingdom due to Russia's possession of the latest nuclear-powered cruise missile. We are talking about the KR "Petrel".



General Hockenhall:

The Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile Burevestnik is capable of moving through the atmosphere for years. In fact, she has an infinite flight resource in the air. At the same time, it is capable of striking from unexpected directions.

According to representatives of the British military intelligence, "Russia has become the largest threat to Europe today, as the Russians closely studied the West."

Hockenhall:

They have invested in those industries that can bring us the most trouble.

In particular, it is said that Russia is investing heavily in the development of the underwater fleet... The topic of testing in the Russian Federation of unmanned underwater vehicles "capable of delivering nuclear charges to almost any point of the world ocean - with the ability to threaten underwater cables" is touched upon.

We will remind that earlier in the United States of America the Russian cruise missile "Petrel" was called "Flying Chernobyl". The Pentagon says that Russia should “stop developing such weapons».
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    1. +21
      14 September 2020 06: 03
      Russian rocket "Burevestnik" can move in the atmosphere for years

      My fan in my country house has also been spinning for years ... I would like to look at this Petrel with one eye how he succeeds in the atmosphere for years smile move.
      Not an article but the devil smile ... a lot of absurdities.
      1. +1
        14 September 2020 06: 12
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I would like to look at this Petrel with one eye how it manages to move in the atmosphere for years.

        so there is a cartoon-look! Yes
        1. +1
          14 September 2020 06: 16
          so there is a cartoon-look!

          Probably the British general has already looked through it ... smile then I see how he got excited.
          1. +21
            14 September 2020 07: 20
            ....... Between the clouds and the sea, the Petrel flies proudly, like a black lightning.
            Either by the wing touching the waves, now by the arrow soaring towards the clouds. .....
            1. +4
              14 September 2020 07: 44
              British scientists, politicians, generals ... one field of berries.
              1. +4
                14 September 2020 08: 02
                hi Good morning, Victor!
                Quote: rocket757
                British scientists, politicians, generals ... one field of berries.

                This is not the first time they have worried about our Petrel!
                1. +2
                  14 September 2020 08: 57
                  Hi Dmitry soldier
                  Worried and will be worried !!! But, they speak in pursuit of their own, specific goals.
                  1. +2
                    14 September 2020 11: 24
                    The Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile Burevestnik is capable of moving through the atmosphere for years.

                    Worried and will be worried !!! But, they speak in pursuit of their own, specific goals.

                    It seems to me that they were very scared.
                    To arrange a flight for a year is completely unrealistic.
                    In peacetime, no one will launch.
                    And in the military - you need to hit the target quickly.
                    1. 0
                      16 September 2020 13: 34
                      And in the military - you need to hit the target quickly.
                      - yes, as quickly as possible ...
                      but, at the same time - and MOST RELIABLE.
                      ...
                      - therefore, if on the shortest approach trajectory - the probability of the weapon is, say, 95%, and on the approach trajectory it is TWICE longer - only 0.05% - then the increase in the time of approach of the weapon DOUBLE should be recognized as not only ACCEPTABLE, but also MANDATORY ...

                      - and this is materiel!
                      1. 0
                        16 September 2020 15: 23
                        an increase in the time of approach of a weapon DOUBLE - it should be recognized not only PERMISSIBLE, but also MANDATORY ...

                        Well, not for a year to increase the time of arrival? wink
                        And this general, if he was translated correctly, interpreted about the years of the flight. Which is ridiculous. hi
              2. +1
                14 September 2020 08: 04
                Don't! Their chief of intelligence is far from stupid. And it is not often that such people express something for the press.
                1. +1
                  14 September 2020 08: 55
                  Quote: Kerensky
                  Here is no need

                  It is necessary!
                  Knowledgeable people in the know, at the expense of their scientists, politicians, intelligence officers and generals ... but this is not tolerated in the public field.
                  And so, Schaub was pinned up ... so they themselves give a reason, nothing to come up with.
                  Well this is a joke, about a rocket that can fly endlessly, but even for years !!! For whom was it said, why?
                  1. +4
                    14 September 2020 09: 04
                    well yes! Endlessly, fly, for years! At least to Mars, at least to Venus laughing wassat
                    And then --- as it jumps out, as it jumps out, shreds will go through the back streets, and threats to the cable!
                    In fact, it is whipping up and scarecrows to distract their inhabitants from their problems.
                    1. +1
                      14 September 2020 10: 00
                      Certainly it is not just said so, at least not always.
                      Look for someone who benefits!
                      1. +3
                        14 September 2020 10: 07
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Certainly it is not just said so, at least not always.
                        Look for someone who benefits!
                        Yes! Are all these statements a renewal of that Cold War?
                        1. +1
                          14 September 2020 10: 10
                          The tension rises.
                        2. 0
                          16 September 2020 13: 39
                          Are all these statements a renewal of that Cold War?
                          - three times HA.
                          ...
                          "the resumption of that cold war" is an UNSANCEDITIONAL approach of strategic bombers of the US armed forces (at a distance of at least 10.000 (ten thousand !!!) km from the territory of the United States) - 100 (STO) kilometers to the residence of the President of our country, negotiating with Lukashenka ... This is a renewal - so a renewal!

                          - and do not confuse warm with soft.
                    2. +1
                      15 September 2020 00: 24
                      Flight in the atmosphere and flight in interplanetary space differ in that there is an atmosphere in the atmosphere, which participates in the process of jet propulsion as one of the components.
                      Maybe, by the way, and the main one.
                      1. 0
                        16 September 2020 13: 47
                        participates in the process of jet propulsion as one of the components.
                        - correcting.
                        In this case, the air of the atmosphere is used not as a "component", but as a WORKING BODY of a jet propulsion system, which heats the WORKING BODY inside itself with the energy of the Fission reaction of atomic nuclei.
                        - Well, something like this...
                        8-))
                        - while the theoretically possible time of continuous operation of such an engine is limited by the time, approximately 1/10 - 1/5 of the half-life of fissile material used as a source of nuclear energy ...
              3. -3
                14 September 2020 09: 54
                Well, as if British scientists, in fact, are not few ... starting from Bells, Faradayes, Joules, Watts, Darwins and Newtons, ending with Hawking ..
                1. 0
                  14 September 2020 10: 03
                  And the scientist and the achievements, everything in Britain was enough.
                  1. +5
                    14 September 2020 10: 43
                    Quote: rocket757
                    And the scientist and the achievements, everything in Britain was enough.

                    Our scientists --- "" three K "", Korolev, Kurchatov and Keldysh, as well as Tsiolkovsky, Vernadsky, Chizhevsky, Kozyrev, Zhores Alferov, Yakov Isidorovich Perelman, Grigory Perelman, Mikhail Gelfand, Yuri Oganesyan, Valery Rubakov, Gavriil Andrianovich Tikhov, Rashid Sunyaev, Leonid Ksanfomality ...
                    Of course, this is an incomplete list of outstanding Russian scientists.
                    1. +1
                      14 September 2020 10: 53
                      I'd start with Lomonosov!
                      We have someone to be proud of! However, Britain and other countries have their own outstanding SCIENTISTS. The world is great.
                      1. +3
                        14 September 2020 11: 06
                        Quote: rocket757
                        I'd start with Lomonosov! .....
                        Well yes! First Russian Academician, Russian by nationality.
                2. 0
                  16 September 2020 13: 53
                  And it would be good if the "British scientists" - and remained - would be in this glorious composition -
                  but, unfortunately, the "British scientists" - in their "modern state" - are GOOD MUCH MORE, and this gigantic number is somehow difficult to transform into quality.
              4. 0
                14 September 2020 10: 59
                what if it's one face?
        2. 0
          16 September 2020 09: 08
          Cartoons - to put the probable in your pants. And they ... well, you understand laughing
          The Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile Burevestnik is capable of moving through the atmosphere for years.

          HZ, where did he get that - scared himself? In the domestic media, everything was more modest.
          They have invested in those industries that can bring us the most trouble.

          And they, tightening the Anaconda ring, were expecting an easy walk?
          Don't dig a hole for another - you'll get into it yourself!
      2. +1
        15 September 2020 12: 42
        Quote: The same Lech
        Russian rocket "Burevestnik" can move in the atmosphere for years

        My fan in my country house has also been spinning for years ... I would like to look at this Petrel with one eye how he succeeds in the atmosphere for years smile move.
        Not an article but the devil smile ... a lot of absurdities.

        I remember about Putin's cartoons, the whole Internet and the "world community" laughed.
        And now the British general himself began to fantasize out of fear ..))))
        Anything is possible, I am not surprised at anything for a long time .. When Russia was chained in a NATO blockade, our designers would not invent something like that! Of course, the Petrel cannot move for a long time in the atmosphere (only if choosing a target) But in near-earth orbit it is quite possible in sleep mode .. The same principle is used by the Poseidons, I think, technologies allow you to create this, but not particularly advertise .. hi We do not threaten, we defend ourselves!
        1. 0
          16 September 2020 14: 26
          But in near-earth orbit it is quite possible in sleep mode ..
          - "on the near-earth" - "quite possible" since the flight of Yuri Gagarin.
          What do you think - the Yankees were so alarmed in the 60s?
          Do you think - because of the "missed priority"? - AHA, well.
          - It's just that a nuclear charge from orbit falls on the target in 4 minutes ...

          And after the yankers from their spyen satellites saw an "almost real" blizzard in the baikonur on the launch pad of the MAKE-UP, then they HAS HURTED TO OFFICIALLY conclude an agreement with Russia on "non-deployment of weapons in outer space." And only because of this - there are no space fighters or bombers in space now (at least OFFICIALLY ...).
          And in the 80s, the affairs of the Yankers were further complicated by the fact that by the 80s in Russia, the RD-0600 product, weighing about half a ton, had passed full-scale bench tests. This is not a jet engine (RD) and not even a helicopter-turboshaft engine RD600 (noticed - in the code of this product there is NO ZERO zero before the number "6" 8-))), but an ONBOARD SPACE (sharpened for work in VACCUUM) - gas-dynamic LASER (GDL) of continuous (!) action operating on gaseous fuel components (leading designers V.P. Koshelnikov, G.I. Zavizion, V.Yu. Guterman). This GDL RD0600 went through a full cycle of bench testing at a special stand with an optical path., And showed a CONTINUOUS power ... of 100 (one hundred) KILOWATT (http://www.kbkha.ru/?p=4&cat=62)
          - what is 100 kilowatts?
          And here https://www.popmech.ru/technologies/8832-lazernyy-giperboloid-superoruzhie-gazproma/
          shows the result of operation of a 50 kilowatt PULSE (ie, less efficient than continuous RD0600) - "civil" MLTK-50 laser on a steel plate 50 mm thick ...
          And moreover - THIS - in the atmosphere, where the energy of the infrared laser beam is intensively absorbed by water vapor.
          - But in space - there is NO ATTENUATION - NO! ...
          Therefore, without a contract - the Yankers were - well, nothing ...

          So the USSR - it WON the arms race against the USA, but only after some 10 years - there was nothing to defend with this weapon ...
          8 - ((
    2. +3
      14 September 2020 06: 14
      As far as I remember, in the atmosphere, Hotabych's brother flies, no matter how it touches
      1. -3
        14 September 2020 07: 21
        Quote: Don Karleone
        brother Hotabych flies in the atmosphere
        Remember wrong, Brother Hottabych (Omar Yusuf) flew around the Earth in space orbit.
        But, this is a fairy tale, but if it is serious, then the "Petrel", flying in the atmosphere, will have to have radioactive exhaust. Second, this is not a drone bomber on duty, the launch itself is already a combat launch, cancellation, only in self-destruction. What's the point of cutting circles while doing this, a big question if you need to hit the target in the shortest possible time ...

        It is possible at all, without any "Petrel" and "Poseidons" to fulfill the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich, - "We, as martyrs, will go to heaven, and they will simply die" if we blow up all our nuclear power plants, especially nuclear warheads, right on our territory. Cheap and angry, the end of the world, you can still pre-distribute nuclear martyr belts to diplomats in the EU and the USA. Such, here, "black humor" to drank the dough and cartoons in our capitalism, with those who have more of theirs in the West, and not with Russia. What the fuck, "Petrel" ...
        1. -3
          14 September 2020 10: 20
          "Petrel" flying in the atmosphere will have to have radioactive exhaust. Second, this is not a drone bomber on duty,


          Any drone, even without a radioactive plume, will not hang in the sky for a long time .. At least I am far from the sky, but I understand that besides the reactor there is still a lot of equipment, a la oil pumps, steam and all sorts of rotating parts on oil seals .. And all this not even somewhere in a vacuum, but in the atmosphere .. at great speed ..
          It would be good if such a rocket would, at first, fly where it should be after the launch, and hit its target .. not circling the extra kilometers, but by the shortest route .. As we know, far from 100% of cruise / ballistic missiles reach their targets !! Well, as a month circling in the sky .. even the most reliable of the currently existing missiles will become unusable ..

          People involved in aviation, of whom there are quite a few, know how much it costs to service an hour of flight of a fighter .. And what will happen if it is not serviced before a new flight .. And the problem there is far from fuel .. So a simple YAR installation is unlikely can greatly increase the autonomy ..
          1. 0
            16 September 2020 14: 30
            a la oil pumps, steam and all sorts of rotating parts on the oil seals.
            - did not guess ...
            Nuclear jet engine - it is DIRECT - i.e. does not have a rotating turbine, steam or other oil seals.
            8-))
    3. +15
      14 September 2020 06: 17
      "Over the gray plain of the sea," Petrel "proudly flies" ... (c)
      1. +9
        14 September 2020 06: 57
        Quote: parusnik
        "Over the gray plain of the sea," Petrel "proudly flies" ... (c)

        And the stupid American penguin, meanwhile, timidly hides the fat body, fattened at McDonald's, in the cliffs of the Rocky Mountains ... (from unpublished versions)
        1. +5
          14 September 2020 07: 24
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: parusnik
          "Over the gray plain of the sea," Petrel "proudly flies" ... (c)

          And the stupid American penguin, meanwhile, timidly hides the fat body, fattened at McDonald's, in the cliffs of the Rocky Mountains ... (from unpublished versions)

          Yes Yes Yes!
          .... seagulls groan. .... And the loons also groan. ....
          1. +4
            14 September 2020 08: 20
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: parusnik
            "Over the gray plain of the sea," Petrel "proudly flies" ... (c)

            And the stupid American penguin, meanwhile, timidly hides the fat body, fattened at McDonald's, in the cliffs of the Rocky Mountains ... (from unpublished versions)

            Yes Yes Yes!
            .... seagulls groan. .... And the loons also groan. ....

            Polish-Lithuanian-Latvian-Estonian gulls groan before the storm. Moaning, rushing over the Baltic Sea. And to the bottom of it they are ready to hide the horror of Russia .... And ukrogagars are also moaning .... They, ukrogagars, cannot enjoy the enjoyment of a peaceful life .... The thunder of "Calibrov" scares them ...(from unpublished options)

            Still, the genius proletarian writer was A.M. Gorky! More than 100 years of "Song of the Petrel", and more and more meanings are still being discovered. Will anyone remember "Archipelaggulag" in 100 years?
            1. +3
              14 September 2020 08: 30
              ...... More than 100 years of "Song of the Petrel" .......

              And the Petrel, flapping its wing,
              Will lead us!
              The clouds will scatter with bright fire
              The people will become the Power again!

              And these are lines from my poem. good fellow
            2. +3
              14 September 2020 12: 34
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Will anyone remember "Archipelaggulag" in 100 years?

              He is remembered even now only before the exam. A [stupid person] was found who included him in the school curriculum.
              1. +3
                14 September 2020 17: 21
                Quote: hohkn
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Will anyone remember "Archipelaggulag" in 100 years?

                He is remembered even now only before the exam. A [stupid person] was found who included him in the school curriculum.

                But I will not even enumerate, so that the gallbladder does not disturb myself and others, how many REALLY useful and necessary things have been cut out of the school curriculum. Mom has long been retired, all her life she has been a teacher of Russian literature at a pedagogical university. In the course of the school curriculum. I talked about the "democratic" changes in the school curriculum - I cried to myself. Where is the Ukrainian decommunization ... They are children there next to our officials from the Ministry of Education ...
                1. +2
                  14 September 2020 20: 27
                  in vain you pounced on the "archipelago .." as a fantasy novel (emphasis on the first syllable) it is nothing. a scarecrow for the older MNS.
                  1. +1
                    14 September 2020 21: 21
                    Quote: oldzek
                    in vain you pounced on the "archipelago .." as a fantasy novel (emphasis on the first syllable) it is nothing. a scarecrow for the older MNS.

                    Yes, I did not pounce on the "Archipelaggulag". There were also more pseudo-historical things to read. The identity of the author, a snitch and a provocateur, is disgusting. Yes, to hell with him - that I, informers and provocateurs in my life have not seen? But it is unpleasant that it is proclaimed (and, consequently, the youngsters are hammering it in) no more, no less - "the conscience of the nation", "the chronicler of the era", "an indefatigable and implacable fighter against the bloody cannibalistic regime" ... rottenness with a Gogol-speaking surname FALSE - "the conscience of the nation" ???

                    And the "Older MNS" remained to live with "dear Leonid Ilyich", they matured only by their passport, not by their heads. "What is forbidden is the very value."

                    I remember how the Russian people were taught to eat potatoes at the local level. She planted a huge field near St. Petersburg and guards guarded it during the day. And at night, the local population also took off the guard, of course, they were picking up the potatoes, rightly judging that the guardsmen would not guard nonsense and laughing at the stupid authorities who were removing the guards at night.

                    I don’t know if it’s true or a historical anecdote, but the principle of thinking of the “Senior Citizens' Tax Service” conveys close to the original. And in the late 80s and early 90s, in the wake of "democratization", these "senior MNCs" climbed out of their dusty cabinets and smoking rooms into the State Duma and into the Government - so a "conscience of the nation" like Solzhenitsyn appeared ...
                    1. AML
                      +2
                      15 September 2020 11: 10
                      You see, what is the matter, in fact, Solzhenitsyn never concealed that the archipeleg is an artistic fiction. And all near-Archipelago nonsense from 'I have not read, but I approve'
                      1. +2
                        15 September 2020 11: 53
                        Quote: AML
                        in fact, Solzhenitsyn never concealed that the archipeleg is an artistic fiction

                        And what then is his fiction only in one direction, in the direction of throwing mud at everything and everything that is Soviet works? Could, for a change, and something good to invent.

                        And I read "Archipelaggulag" - the usual spitting of poison. Quite a new liberal Bible. Just let Amnuel pray for her.
                        1. +3
                          15 September 2020 11: 55
                          Quote: Zoldat_A
                          And I read "Archipelaggulag" - the usual spitting of poison. Quite a new liberal Bible. Just let Amnuel pray for her.

                          I also read it, sheer whining, and especially if you take into account that Solzhenitsyn was a regular informer and lived not badly in comparison with other zk ..
                        2. +2
                          15 September 2020 12: 21
                          Quote: Nevolnik
                          Solzhenitsyn was a full-time informer and did not live badly compared to other prisoners

                          Very good.
                          The Marfinsk special prison was a research institute of communications, where prisoners-physicists, -chemists, and -mathies worked. This is Solzhenitsyn’s only camp, where his working day was 12 hours (in the rest, no more than 8) and passed at a desk.

                          Living conditions were also decent: a spacious room, a separate bed, a table by the window, a lamp, and after a working day - a radio through which the writer listened to opera using headphones. At lunchtime, Solzhenitsyn slept either in a dormitory or on the street, and "on weekends spent 3-4 hours outdoors, played volleyball."

                          The food was good here: in the hungry post-war years, there was an excess of bread in the Martha special prison, and each prisoner was given butter and sugar. At breakfast, you could ask for an addition, lunch included meat soup, and casserole for dinner.

                          The prisoners of the camp received books as spiritual food, and not only from the local library, they could also order them from Leninskaya.

                          It is not surprising that here Solzhenitsyn woke up a desire to create. Here is what he wrote to his first wife about his literary works: "I gave this passion all the time now, but I stopped brazenly doing public work."
                        3. +1
                          15 September 2020 14: 36
                          Quote: Zoldat_A
                          And what then is his fiction only in one direction, in the direction of throwing mud at everything and everything that is Soviet works?

                          And he couldn't do anything else.
                          Quote: Zoldat_A
                          Could, for a change, and something good to invent.

                          For this, the Nobel Prize is not given.
                        4. +1
                          15 September 2020 18: 05
                          Quote: hohkn
                          For this, the Nobel Prize is not given.

                          After the Nobel Prize for the Humpbacked Dog as payment for betrayal (in money, by the way, almost the Baku people - for one person is much nicer than Eastern Europe for the whole USSR, probably) and after the "advance" prize for the "peacemaker" Obama for me it is not exists. And, of course, Aleksievich was with them, the same Solzhenitsyn - but Count Tolstoy was somehow knocked over ... Aleksievich and Tolstoy are "the grocer Bonacie and the cardinal." Hurray !!!!
    4. +3
      14 September 2020 07: 02
      and what are they so afraid of? if we are not touched .. we also do not climb to visit them! )) although ... they learned French reached Napoleon, learned German)) it came to Berlin, and right now English Learn))) it's time to know and go to London)))?
      1. +3
        14 September 2020 07: 20
        They are not "afraid", they "whip up" anti-Russian hysteria, maintain in the minds of the inhabitants the image of Russia as an image of a familiar enemy, who do not take into account anything or anyone, do not follow generally accepted norms of behavior. As for the notorious "Petrel", they know perfectly well that it does not exist and will not exist in the foreseeable future, for many reasons (one of them is still at the bottom of Nyonoksa), but this wunderwaffle is a good scarecrow for the Western public, fit so well into their concept of seeing Russia as "Mordor" - "The Empire of Ecumenical Evil", which poses a threat to ecology, nature and all of humanity.
      2. +1
        14 September 2020 07: 45
        Quote: Nitarius
        and what are they so afraid of? if we are not touched .. we also do not climb to visit them! )) although ... they learned French reached Napoleon, learned German)) it came to Berlin, and right now English Learn))) it's time to know and go to London)))?

        Anglossachs will have to get seriously involved if something happens.
        London won't get off smile
        Also Washington, Ottawa, Canberra and Wellington.
        We will return New Zealand to the Maori, Australia - to the Australian aborigines.
        America - to the Indians, having previously taken all nuclear weapons.
        Organize 4-5 independent states on the British Isles: England, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall ... although you can chop smaller ones :))) into Sussexes. wessex and other :))
      3. +2
        14 September 2020 07: 54
        So in India, the English state language, maybe to India, but in the Ganges, a utopian.
        1. +3
          14 September 2020 08: 31
          Quote: Free Wind
          So in India, the English state language, maybe to India, but in the Ganges, a utopian.

          India has already been returned to the Indians, dividing it as roughly as possible, so that there are more interethnic conflicts and the opportunity, intriguing and stirring up from around the corner, to claim the role of a high arbiter, or at least a cozy place for living and investment for new Hindu people, remains: )) This is worse than direct export of gold, diamonds, spices and other things for free, as in the old happy days, but it's better than nothing.

          Australia needs to be returned to its indigenous people with no options.
          The Anglo-Saxon Nazis did not even leave a name for the locals, they simply call them aborigines.
          And so on. There are several museums in the USA that tell about the genocide to which the Indian tribes were subjected by the whites (Anglo-Saxon and other European rabble that swam across the ocean). I happened to visit Phoenix and visit one of these museums.

          In general, there are many cases :)) to restore justice :))
          1. 0
            14 September 2020 08: 47
            Before the advent of the British, the Indians actively cut themselves, some were circumcised, others were eating cows, others were nailed in a sack, and so on. After the British left, they immediately began to cut each other. The Papuans themselves did not know what to call themselves. Even before the Europeans, they could not call themselves, at best: she you chel, kel manda. Well, like, come here. Many tribes without whites died out, were eaten, were destroyed. Let's say the whites began to guard the pygmies, because the blacks were actively destroying them. Read how the Indians lived before the arrival of the whites. One buffalo, before being overwhelmed, could destroy half of the camp.
            1. +3
              14 September 2020 09: 25
              Quote: Free Wind
              Before the advent of the British, the Indians actively cut themselves, some were circumcised, others were eating cows, others were nailed in a sack, and so on. After the British left, they immediately began to cut each other. The Papuans themselves did not know what to call themselves. Even before the Europeans, they could not call themselves, at best: she you chel, kel manda. Well, like, come here. Many tribes without whites died out, were eaten, were destroyed. Let's say the whites began to guard the pygmies, because the blacks were actively destroying them. Read how the Indians lived before the arrival of the whites. One buffalo, before being overwhelmed, could destroy half of the camp.

              laughing
              Everything is clear with you
      4. +2
        14 September 2020 18: 20
        But really !!!
    5. +4
      14 September 2020 07: 11
      Any statements by any Western representatives of the highest military and political forces should be viewed from a certain angle.
      The main thing is for whom such a statement is made.
      And then everything becomes clear.
      This statement is made for domestic consumption.
      Those. for British citizens.
      They need to put into their heads the main thesis that the Russians have a terrible thing - "Petrel".
      The Russians will launch it and it (this thing) will fly and fly for years.
      And when necessary, then it will fly.
      The British - of course, do not shine with brains.
      What their superiors told them, they believe.
      But we're not British, are we?
    6. 0
      14 September 2020 07: 14
      The subject of testing in the Russian Federation of unmanned underwater vehicles "capable of delivering nuclear charges to almost any point in the world ocean - [b] with the ability to threaten underwater cables" is touched upon.
      And after all, they are right shaking with their cables, they understand that without them he is blind, deaf and dumb. I suppose we ALREADY have maps with the coordinates of many of them. The rest is a matter of technology.
    7. +2
      14 September 2020 07: 25
      unmanned underwater vehicles, "capable of delivering nuclear warheads to virtually anywhere in the world's oceans - with the ability to threaten underwater cables."
      Can't you kill the cables except a nuclear charge?
      What kind of cables are they?
      Or are they different functions.
      First, he took a bite of the cable with a "claw", then swam and presented a nuclear surprise.
    8. +1
      14 September 2020 07: 27
      General: give the army more money, otherwise the west of the khan
    9. 0
      14 September 2020 07: 32
      The British general can be trusted.
      He won't talk nonsense. wassat
    10. +2
      14 September 2020 10: 03
      In vain they are so, "Petrel" is a weapon created for a specific task - to get those who managed to hide from "Yars", "Bulava", "Sramat". The Burevestnik radioactive trail will not even be noticed against the general background wink
      The best way to avoid getting hit by it is to die while using an ICBM. smile
      IMHO hi
    11. +1
      14 September 2020 10: 19
      How scary to live wink I'm going to tie the dog. laughing
      1. +2
        14 September 2020 18: 23
        Oh cable TV turned off, we need to pay urgently.
    12. 0
      14 September 2020 10: 28
      "Russia has become the largest threat to Europe today, as the Russians scrutinized the West." I really want to believe in it, I would like to be honest that it would be so. Got these American mongrels called Europe
    13. 0
      14 September 2020 10: 33
      General blows.
      For years, she cannot fly. There is a bearing life, again, storms and other factors.
      And to frighten the public, he said it well.
    14. 0
      14 September 2020 12: 50
      In short, gentlemen, the Anglo-Saxons you should not sleep peacefully, especially on a pirate island, you will go to the bottom 100%.
    15. +1
      14 September 2020 13: 21
      The question is not even the possibility of the existence of the Petrel, but what does it give the Russian Federation in terms of benefits?
      Why would he fly for years? Contaminate the environment?
    16. 0
      14 September 2020 15: 32
      Britain and how you THOUGHT WE DO NOT ACT FROM UNDER SILENCE
    17. 0
      14 September 2020 15: 53
      Wouldn't you like to hell across your face? iki.
    18. +1
      14 September 2020 16: 04
      Quote: Dead Day
      so there is a cartoon-look!

      You can call me not a patriot, mentor minuses, but our "Petrel" and "Poseidon" and so on. WHILE standing on a par with the Chinese reusable shuttle and the American SOI. Excessive secrecy in such matters is harmful. They show achievements so that enemies would envy and fear. They didn’t laugh. It’s an advertisement of achievements. But I’m afraid to show nothing but a soyuzmultfilm. hi
    19. +2
      14 September 2020 18: 09
      I don’t understand, should ICBMs be environmentally friendly and be friends with nature?
      1. -1
        14 September 2020 23: 49
        ICBMs are in the mines. As a last resort, when they fly. - their exhaust is still not radioactive. In the meantime, our tsar rocket is tested, how many people will get cancer? Despite the fact that there is no technical difficulty in creating an intercontinental cruise missile with a conventional, non-nuclear engine. Back in the late 50s, both ours and the Ameoicans did. But it will be much cheaper than Petrel, and this is not profitable for some people.
    20. -2
      14 September 2020 23: 45
      How many cruise and ballistic missiles capable of performing the same missions as the Petrel can be built for its price? Seems to me, more than a dozen. Quite a bit of work done by budget money guys. Capitalism is invincible, and the oligarchs are its prophets!
      1. 0
        14 September 2020 23: 51
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        How many cruise and ballistic missiles capable of performing the same missions as the Petrel can be built for its price? Seems to me, more than a dozen. Quite a bit of work done by budget money guys. Capitalism is invincible, and the oligarchs are its prophets!

        There is always the opportunity to use bows and spears, dressing the fighters in loincloths made of palm branches.
        Cheap and angry ...
    21. 0
      15 September 2020 08: 11
      Let the British imagine the opposite: all these means and the military force of Russia is not directed against them, but stands on their defense. Maybe it will become easier for them? Well, in fact, if things go on in the United States, it is time to think about creating an "anti-American coalition" (by analogy with the anti-Hitler coalition). Here the British have no equal, if the life of their island depends on it.
    22. AML
      +1
      15 September 2020 15: 18
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      Quote: AML
      in fact, Solzhenitsyn never concealed that the archipeleg is an artistic fiction

      And what then is his fiction only in one direction, in the direction of throwing mud at everything and everything that is Soviet works? Could, for a change, and something good to invent.

      I could. But there are such people, a person G..no. He's not good or bad. He's just g ... well.
    23. 0
      15 September 2020 16: 17
      There was such a meme - "The Russians are coming!" -, Forrestal D. won't let you lie ... laughing
    24. 0
      16 September 2020 16: 07
      The Pentagon says that Russia must "stop developing such weapons."

      In Russia, they say that the Pentagon should "stop using nuclear aircraft carriers" because after being hit by the Kinzhal anti-ship missiles, they will turn into "floating Chernobyls."
    25. +1
      17 September 2020 23: 06
      "In the United States of America, the Russian Burevestnik cruise missile was called the Flying Chernobyl. The Pentagon says that Russia must" stop developing such weapons. "

      Staa? wassat

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