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Army of the USSR after the Great Patriotic War. From war to peace and back

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After the victorious end of the Great Patriotic War with honor and glory, the army of the Soviet Union that won it underwent very serious changes. Let's try to remember exactly how they happened and what each of their several stages was connected with.


Carefully studying that difficult time, one cannot fail to notice that with all its integrity and consistency in the main thing - the desire to create powerful armed forces capable of reliably protecting the country from any enemy, the reforms of the post-war army can be quite confidently divided into two periods. The first lasted from about 1945 to 1948, and the second from 1948 until the death of Stalin and the rise to power of Nikita Khrushchev. What is the difference between them?

In short, in my opinion, it can be reduced to the fact that if immediately after the victory there was an adaptation of the country's armed forces to peacetime, then after the "collective West", primarily the United States and Great Britain, took a course of open confrontation with our country, global goals and objectives have been changed in the most drastic way. The simplest and most convincing proof of this thesis are the indicators of the dynamics of the size of our army at that time.

As of May 1945, there were 11 million 300 thousand people in the ranks of the Red Army. By the beginning of 1948, this figure was a little over 2 million, a decrease of more than fivefold. However, at the time of Stalin's death, the Armed Forces of the USSR numbered almost 5 and a half million personnel. As you know, Joseph Vissarionovich never did anything without a reason. Consequently, the new twofold increase in the size of the army was due to something.

Let's return, however, to reforms and changes. Sometimes I will allow myself to deviate from a purely chronological order, building them according to the degree of importance and, so to speak, globality. First of all, at the end of February 1946, the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army was renamed the Soviet Army. Someone to this day is perplexed about this: why change the name, especially after such brilliant victories? I think Stalin was well aware of the fact that the Great Patriotic War was won not only by representatives of the two "advanced" classes. He paid tribute to everyone who forged victory and gave their lives for it, regardless of their social origin, and once again emphasized that the Great Patriotic War became the crucible in which a completely new human community was finally forged - the Soviet people. Hence the change.

After the victory, fundamental changes were made in the structure of the country's armed forces, primarily in their leadership. The main bodies of wartime, the State Defense Committee and the Headquarters of the Supreme Command, were abolished already on September 4, 1945. In February 1946, the people's commissariats of defense and naval fleet were united in the People's Commissariat of the Armed Forces. A month later, like all Soviet governing bodies, it became known as the Ministry of the Armed Forces. In 1950, the USSR Military and Naval Ministries were formed again.

The number of military districts was rapidly decreasing: from 32 in October 1946 to 21 in the same year and to 16 in 1950. As mentioned above, there was a rapid demobilization, which was finally completed by 1948, when the ranks of the army left 8 and a half million people belonging to 33 draft age. At the same time, unlike Khrushchev's or "post-perestroika" barbaric reforms, the worst thing did not happen - the squandering of the "golden fund" of the armed forces, the best representatives of its command staff. The dismissal of officers with a higher military education was strictly prohibited. Moreover, in the Soviet Army titanic work unfolded not only to preserve, but also to improve the personnel potential. The war, which "devoured" straw like fire, was over for the junior command staff, and the emphasis was now placed not on the quantity, but on the quality of the training of officers.

First of all, this was expressed in the decisive rejection of all accelerated training courses for military specialists. Military schools passed to two- and then three-year terms of training young officers. At the same time, their number grew steadily: from 1946 to 1953, more than 30 higher military schools and four academies were opened in the USSR! The main emphasis was placed on training not only future commanders, but also top-class technical specialists. The Great Patriotic War was already a "war of engines", and the Kremlin was well aware that the next conflict would be a clash of even more sophisticated and sophisticated military technologies.

That is why the unprecedented re-equipment of the Soviet Army was carried out with the most modern, most advanced models of weapons and equipment. This applied to all types and types of troops, where it entered as the most advanced rifle at that time weaponand new Tanks, aircraft, artillery, radar stations and much more. The same processes were going on in the navy. It was during these years that the foundations of such future combat arms as the strategic missile forces were laid (their first unit was the Special Purpose Brigade of the Supreme High Command Reserve, created in August 1946), and anti-missile defense forces. The nuclear missile shield of the Soviet Union was created at an accelerated pace, which was destined to provide our country with the future decades of peaceful life.

The impetus given to the development of the Armed Forces of the USSR in those years was so powerful, and their potential created in a short time is so enormous that even the destructive actions of Nikita Khrushchev could not ditch the Soviet Army, under the guise of "transformations" he did everything possible to weaken it, if not destruction. However, this is already completely different история.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 14 September 2020 05: 15 New
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    Unfortunately, the precious experience of our ancestors by our politicians is being poured down the toilet for political purposefulness.
    Russian politicians know how to destroy ... they cannot build anything worthwhile ... even for a hundred years ahead.
    I read the article and the bitterness in my soul remained ... the restructuring of Gorbachev and Yeltsin dealt a blow to our army much stronger than the blow of Hitler's Germany.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 14 September 2020 08: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      Russian politicians know how to destroy ... they cannot build something worthwhile ... I read the article and the bitterness remained in my soul ...

      Not everything is as bad as it seems to Alexander Kharaluzhny.

      Creation of branches Nakhimov School completed on all fleets:
      https://iz.ru/1055287/2020-09-01/sozdanie-filialov-nakhimovskogo-uchilishcha-zaversheno-na-vsekh-flotakh

      Suvorov military schools:
      Yekaterinburg Suvorov Military School
      St. Petersburg Suvorov Military School
      Moscow Military Music College named after Lieutenant General V.M.Khalilov
      Kazan Suvorov Military School
      Moscow Suvorov Military School
      Tver Suvorov Military School
      Ulyanovsk Guards Suvorov Military School
      Ussuriysk Suvorov Military School
      North Caucasian Suvorov Military School
      Perm Suvorov Military School
      Tula Suvorov Military School

      https://ens.mil.ru/education/secondary/suvorovs_school.htm
      1. rich
        rich 14 September 2020 14: 42 New
        +6
        Post-war Suvorovites




        1. rich
          rich 14 September 2020 14: 48 New
          +7
          Post-war Suvorovites (continued)




          And here already "new times" - on the walls of the school Khrushchev's poltburo
      2. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 15 September 2020 22: 25 New
        0
        Forgot to mention the academy, the same Zhukovka and Moninka. What is now in Voronezh is not even a name from the past. At the suggestion of Comrade Taburetkin from these academies, even the dust did not move to Voronezh: the teaching staff did not move - the entire library, the entire library did not move, moreover, it was destroyed! The listeners learn from the readable notes of the "older generations" of the Monintsy, which are passed on to the teachers "by acquaintance from fellow soldiers / classmates." Teachers are recruited from xp_en knows who, on the principle of "who will agree" from the local natives of the black earth. Is this an academy ??? By the way, with the Academy of the Strategic Missile Forces - the same canoe, though it happened already at Kozhugetich. But the building in the center of Moscow, the former Academy of Peter the Great, was not sold quickly, the building turned out to be a historical value of the international level and now it hovered in zero gravity, but from the academy - again zilch, moved to the Moscow region with the same consequences as the Air Force. And so everything is fine, yes, I would say just fine. I offer all optimizers / managers a premium from the Pentagon
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 September 2020 09: 49 New
      +4
      and could not apply? whoever was then in power, the army would still essentially collapse. rather, it is worth talking about those people who in those years somehow managed to preserve all the most important. in 91, there were almost three million in the territory of the RSFSR alone. this is an insane number considering that time. and the reduction was simply inevitable. and if we take into account the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then not just an insane number, but even words I can’t find. the country was gone. it is necessary to erect monuments to those who at that time managed to preserve the Strategic Missile Forces and other families. who kept the higher and Suvorov schools. it could have been much worse. much worse.
      1. apro
        apro 14 September 2020 09: 55 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        in 91, there were almost three million in the territory of the RSFSR alone. this is an insane number considering that time.

        The army of the USSR was almost 5 million, and nothing was enough for both Penstoners and students, and to re-equip, and build, and maintain stability in the country ... and now 300 thousand is a burden and not enough for anything
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 September 2020 09: 59 New
          +2
          5 million for a 300 million country is normal, although a bit too much. and three million for a country with a population of half that is a lot. Moreover, the country was no longer in the one that could afford it.
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 14 September 2020 11: 37 New
            +6
            5 million for a 300 million country is normal, although a bit too much. and three million for a country with a population of half that is a lot. especially since the country was no longer in the one that could

            These "swings" are surprising in the armed forces, politics, economics; yes everywhere ...
            Each subsequent "emperor" considers it his credo, to close or kill everything that the previous one did before him ... There is no long-term (20-50 years) strategy. Therefore, throwing: they build cruisers with cannons, then they cut them and build a BOD ...
            Now we need special forces, now we do not need it, now we need airborne troops, and we need a lot, then we need to reduce them. Now we need 60 thousand tanks, then we need 2 thousand for our eyes ... Priorities change, but they change, but it looks more like some kind of voluntarism and irresponsibility.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 14 September 2020 13: 49 New
              +2
              yes it always was. at any time. anywhere in the world. I was always surprised by the fact that for some unknown reason for me they do it abruptly. demolish what is and create anew. wasting time resources and what's more scary talents. apparently we are not able to do otherwise.
              1. zenion
                zenion 14 September 2020 14: 52 New
                -1
                The main thing is not to create, but to steal, to do gesheft.
            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 14 September 2020 15: 56 New
              +6
              Quote: Doccor18
              Therefore, throwing: they build cruisers with cannons, then they cut them and build a BOD ...

              This is not throwing. This is called the "dictatorship of industry" - because the construction of the EM pr. 30 and KRL pr. 68 in the "K" and "bis" variants was pushed through by the People's Commissariat of Shipbuilding, which declared that the ships of the post-war projects were beyond its capacity, and the workers needed to be fed. So they built ships according to actually pre-war projects - so far roast cock the maize did not peck.
              Who in the 60s of the twentieth century needs an artillery cruiser from the pre-war MZA (with manual guidance drives)?
              1. Doccor18
                Doccor18 14 September 2020 16: 14 New
                +2
                Of course, the 68th project was not distinguished by originality, but since they were laid and built at a "Stakhanov's" pace, then what was the point of destroying them. The ship composition of the USSR Navy was not numerous, and 25 cruisers would definitely not interfere with it, but they could be retrofitted later. The USA also built their artillery "Des Moines" in the late 40s, and went until 1975 ...
                1. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 14 September 2020 18: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Doccor18
                  Of course, the 68th project was not distinguished by originality, but since they were laid and built at "Stakhanov's" pace, then what was the point of destroying them. The ship composition of the USSR Navy was not numerous, and 25 cruisers would definitely not interfere with it

                  The budget is not rubber. Why give up for the sake of building all the Ave 68? Project 58? Or Project 61?
                  The worst thing about pr. 68 is its air defense. SAM - no. ZAK - no (at least in the version with the AK-230). Even MZA with power and SSP - and that is not. You can only rely on "hundreds".
        2. DrEng527
          DrEng527 14 September 2020 14: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: apro
          now 300 thousand is a burden and not enough for anything

          this is how the soldiers are fed and kept differently now request
        3. EvilLion
          EvilLion 24 September 2020 09: 28 New
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          И в магазинах ни черта, и жили к комуналках.
    3. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 14 September 2020 10: 26 New
      +9
      The tempting title of the article does not correspond to the scanty content.

      The author has identified several numbers, even if important. But the general picture is shown in some contours, and no serious analysis has been done. And so people read Wikipedia on this topic. There was a hope to learn, to see something new. Disappointed.

      Auto RU,
      You have a lot of articles, including serious and even exciting ones. Surely you will be able to raise this topic again, but at a higher level typical for you.
      1. zenion
        zenion 14 September 2020 14: 56 New
        +5
        Alexander1971. Not enough for some, enough for many. After all, besides the Internet, there are many books of that time. Of course, much was secret. But no one except thieves and bandits attacked the USSR. And from what is left they pretend that everything is fine, no one will attack Russia. Oil and gas are supplied normally, and the rest is sold cheaper than in Russia. Why attack her, everything is good and even better. The conveyor is running.
    4. pereselenec
      pereselenec 14 September 2020 19: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      I read the article and the bitterness in my soul remained ... the restructuring of Gorbachev and Yeltsin dealt a blow to our army much stronger than the blow of Hitler's Germany.


      Nothing, but the Yeltsin heir and protégé of VVP raised the army from its knees and re-equipped it with mighty cartoons about missiles and armatures.
  2. Free wind
    Free wind 14 September 2020 05: 41 New
    +2
    The reduction of the army is clear, and grandfathers were at the front. The subsequent increase is also understandable. They began to call for children born in 28-30, plus the call went in full swing from Central Asia. This is not a brilliant idea, it's just demography and the law. Age approached, a bag on the shoulder and forward to the service. Although there were many such commanders who wanted to fight further, in civilian life they did not know how to leave the army, it was scary, the car was an official, clothes, rations. And in civilian life, you need to earn everything yourself.
  3. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 14 September 2020 06: 00 New
    +9
    ... a completely new human community was finally forged - the Soviet people.

    After 45 years "community" ordered to live long ...
    No, actually, the people stayed. However, it ceased to be "Soviet", divided among the states that had broken away from the Union, began to scatter around the world ...
  4. apro
    apro 14 September 2020 06: 17 New
    +3
    It would not be correct to consider the Soviet army in 1945 to be fully consistent with the moment. Insufficient mechanization, the lack of mobile ZSU, Sau, infantry combat transport, the lack of air force power, the Soviet leadership understood this and the strengthening was already commensurate with the domestic industry.
  5. Olgovich
    Olgovich 14 September 2020 07: 05 New
    +2
    By the beginning of 1948, this figure was slightly more than 2 million, a decrease of more than fivefold. However, at the time of Stalin's death, the Armed Forces of the USSR numberedand 5 and a half million people personnel.

    An absolutely overwhelming and surplus army for a country ravaged by a terrible war.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 September 2020 09: 56 New
      +4
      Yes and no. the army is being created and kept under certain threats. experience 41 simply could not provide an opportunity for relaxation. Yes many. but the threat of a new war was enormous. and so there was an army that had passed many years of war, which only by the fact that it was available slowed down any opportunities. this power just standing still cooled any desire, even just to want to fight. the world was changing.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 14 September 2020 10: 35 New
        -11
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Yes and no. the army is created and kept under certain threats. experience 41 simply could not provide an opportunity for relaxation. Yes many. but the threat of a new war was enormous. and so there was an army that had passed many years of war, which only by the fact that it was available slowed down any opportunities. this power just standing still cooled any desire, even just to want to fight. the world was changing

        The reduction announced by the law of January 15, 1960 brought the army to the number in 2 million people... And ..... no aggression happened.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 September 2020 13: 38 New
          +7
          it's a strategy. by 60, they had managed to overcome a lot. she gave time for it.
      2. DrEng527
        DrEng527 14 September 2020 14: 41 New
        -5
        Quote: carstorm 11
        but the threat of a new war was enormous.

        Well, who would have attacked the USSR at this time on land? Germany in ruins, England in crisis ... USA?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 September 2020 14: 52 New
          +5
          Fulton's speech ... Churchill ... does it not occur to you that for this reason they did not attack that the forces of that were afraid of what they have? even the stupidest person should understand that even the threat theory must be stopped. we do not launch missiles with nuclear warheads. but we have them and develop them. not for war. but in order that it just does not happen.
          1. Kronos
            Kronos 14 September 2020 15: 09 New
            +3
            Until the mid-50s, the United States had enough nuclear bombs to turn the USSR into ruins.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 14 September 2020 15: 11 New
              +2
              okay?) directly cover the whole country?) and what prevented them?) let's guess, they didn't want so many victims among the population?) but not) probably just democratic values ​​prevented?)))
              1. Kronos
                Kronos 14 September 2020 16: 45 New
                0
                No, of course, purely practical considerations. They used the bombs to push through their wishes, such as curtailing claims against Turkey in 1949 from the USSR.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 14 September 2020 16: 55 New
                  +2
                  means it worked?)
          2. DrEng527
            DrEng527 15 September 2020 10: 18 New
            -1
            Quote: carstorm 11
            the thought doesn’t occur to you

            it is a pity that you still live within the framework of agitprop - serious reasons are needed for a war - for people to go and die! especially in the West - that's why the people there are working ideologically very strongly, where is the USSR!
    2. Kwas
      Kwas 14 September 2020 10: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Olgovich
      An absolutely overwhelming and surplus army for a country ravaged by a terrible war.

      Apparently the insidious Stalin thus wanted to finish off what survived in the Second World War, absolutely without any reason from the outside!
      1. DrEng527
        DrEng527 15 September 2020 10: 19 New
        -3
        Quote: Kwas
        insidious Stalin thus wanted to finish off

        He just didn't give a damn about the people - well, a couple million more would die - what a problem ... request
  6. Earnest
    Earnest 14 September 2020 11: 38 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    By the beginning of 1948, this figure was slightly more than 2 million, a decrease of more than fivefold. However, at the time of Stalin's death, the Armed Forces of the USSR numberedand 5 and a half million people personnel.

    An absolutely overwhelming and surplus army for a country ravaged by a terrible war.

    Excessive? Come on?? And where did the light elves with the "policy of the big club" go? That American aviation in the skies of the USSR walked like home until the 60s, you do not know? Plans "Dropshot", "Unthinkable" - what is it, fiction, in your opinion? Any army is always "redundant" from the point of view, for example, of the prima of the Bolshoi Theater. Even now, the total number of security officials is quite large, although there is a considerable difference between the USSR and the Russian Federation. Oh, by the way, let me give you one more point of view: imagine that in the Russian Federation with its "most advanced" capitalist system, 8 million unemployed men will suddenly appear out of nowhere, basically with combat experience. What will we do, where will we run? AND? But "Uncle Joe" had no problems with employment ...
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 14 September 2020 14: 32 New
      -19
      Quote: Earnest
      Excessive? Come on??

      okay!
      Quote: Earnest
      And where did the light elves with the "policy of the big club" go?

      Reduced SEVEN times, one would know.
      Quote: Earnest
      That American aviation in the skies of the USSR walked like home until the 60s, you do not know?

      And how could 5.5 million soldiers on earth ... prevent them? belay
      Quote: Earnest
      Any army is always "redundant" from the point of view, for example, of the prima of the Bolshoi Theater.

      From the point of view of any healthy person - and not any, but a multimillion dollar, useless to anyone
      Quote: Earnest
      Oh, by the way, let me give you one more point of view: imagine that in the Russian Federation with its "most advanced" capitalist system, 8 million unemployed men will suddenly appear out of nowhere, basically with combat experience. What will we dowhere will we run? AND? And here at "Uncle Joe"there were no problems with employment.

      State your point of view in Russian request
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 14 September 2020 19: 11 New
        +4
        Why don't you understand? 8 million !!! unemployed men who have tasted krovushki "I really can't". But the Soviet government directed their energy into a peaceful channel and the devastation very quickly turned into prosperity. How old were you in the 90s? Have you ever met with almost the same "Afghans" who did not put human life in a penny, who fell into bandits against the background of bourgeois formation? One, by the way, of the factors of rampant uncontrolled cruelty at that time, rotten grabbers called "saints." Not everyone became like that, but the phenomenon was massive.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 15 September 2020 08: 05 New
          -3
          Quote: Essex62
          Why don't you understand?

          Nothing is clear, because it is not written in Russian.
          Quote: Essex62
          8 million !!! unemployed men who have tasted krovushki "I really can't". H

          What ... 8 million in 1948-49? belay
          Quote: Essex62
          But the Soviet government directed their energy into a peaceful channel and very quickly turned the devastation into prosperity.

          Prosperity?! fool from a letter to the Central Committee in 1952
          the state trade in butter, fats, meat and meat products, sugar, vegetables, cereals, macaroni and dairy products has completely ceased, having ceded its functions to private trade at speculative prices ... under the brand name of "collective farm" trade in "collective farm" markets ... and cooperative grocery stores do not sell food: there is no meat, fats, sausages, cereals, canned meat, etc., etc. - in a word - there is nothing. Empty shelves and counters in the butcher's and deli sections of these stores are lined with bottles of vodka and wine for decoration. Manufactured goods stores mainly serve the population through dealers. Manufacturing workers, engineering workers, and industrial workers eke out sad, half-starved existence»
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 15 September 2020 08: 22 New
            0
            I meant demobilization in 1945
            Your accomplices have stamped a great many such "documents". Doubt is aroused by such a letter to the Central Committee, when Stalin was still alive. Who dared to write such a thing? People were starving, of course, in the first post-war years, so what's so surprising? Half of the country is in ruins and under 30 million loss of population.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 15 September 2020 10: 03 New
              -1
              Quote: Essex62
              I meant demobilization in 1945

              WHERE do I have at least a WORD about the demobilization of 1945 (and you answered ME)?
              Quote: Essex62
              Your accomplices stamped a great many such "documents". Doubt is aroused by such a letter to the Central Committee, when Stalin was still alive. Who dared to write such a thing?

              Soviet workers, peasants and engineers wrote, and HUNGER helped to dare.

              The name of this particular person is Peters K.A., moreover, there was a CHECK that confirmed it. See collection of DOCUMENTS Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) and the Council of Ministers of the USSR. 1945-1953. M., 2002

              from Novocherkassk, early 1953 (Rostov region
              ): “There is no longer any strength to keep silent about the difficult situation in which our Soviet people live. There is nothing. The shops are empty ... Children have not seen sugar or butter for eight months. One bread. True, this is not yet hunger, but you cannot raise a healthy generation on bread alone. No vegetables, no cereals - nothing. " “There are a thousand or more people in line near each grocery store.
              .
              Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU Aristov, chairman of the commission for checking the condition with promotion, 1952:
              “I was in Ryazan. - What's there? Interruptions? - No, I say, comrade. Stalin, no interruptions, but for a long time there has been no bread, no butter, no sausage. He stood in line with Larionov at 6-7 in the morning, checked. No bread anywhere.
              Quote: Essex62
              People were starving, of course, in the first post-war years, so what's so surprising? Half of the country is in ruins and under 30 million loss of population.

              If you were interested in the history of YOUR country, and not in the stupid propaganda of the past, you would know that BEFORE the war they ate EVEN WORSE -1937 ("permanent" socialism, yeah) -mass swelling and DEATH from hunger, see. originals - NKVD DOCUMENTS on Istmat.
              1. DrEng527
                DrEng527 15 September 2020 10: 23 New
                0
                Quote: Olgovich
                If you were interested in the history of YOUR country,

                you will be told that the cards were canceled in the USSR earlier than in Britain ... request
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 15 September 2020 10: 38 New
                  -1
                  Quote: DrEng527
                  you will be told that the cards were canceled in the USSR earlier than in Britain ...

                  an absurd argument: less than 20% of people had cards, the rest survived WHO WANTED (the same peasantry), nobody was interested.

                  And yes, in 1947 in Britain hundreds of thousands of people did not die of hunger, as it was in the USSR in Novorossia, Bessarabia, etc.
                  1. DrEng527
                    DrEng527 15 September 2020 10: 44 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    an absurd argument: less than 20% of people had cards, the rest survived WHO WANTED (the same peasantry), nobody was interested.

                    I know, but I gave you the "reinforced concrete" argument of the Agitprop group ... request They don't care about details ...
              2. Essex62
                Essex62 15 September 2020 16: 40 New
                -1
                The difficulties were overcome. Since the 60s, the country has lived well, but in the 70s it was just great. I didn't give a damn about agitation, I appreciate it in my life. Capitalism is evil, and estate society is generally disgusting.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 15 September 2020 16: 55 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Essex62
                  and in the 70s it was just great. I didn't give a damn about agitation, I appreciate it in my life.

                  Not bad in the 70s, yes.

                  BUT, beyond our means. And at a dead end. Outcome-CATASTROPHE 1991 and Russian Cross.
                  1. Essex62
                    Essex62 15 September 2020 17: 56 New
                    -1
                    A catastrophe, because they did not press down and did not exterminate the consciousness of the huckster. Forgotten Stalin's behests about the never-ending class struggle. We decided that classes are now only in school, but they remained in professions. But no, the bourgeois psychology has not gone anywhere. It was necessary to clean, as Felix and Beria did. There was not any dead end, there was betrayal, the desire of the reincarnated to become masters. Convert power into capital. The role of personality in history, more than once or twice, has tipped the balance.
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 16 September 2020 09: 29 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Essex62
                      A catastrophe, because they did not press down and did not corrode the consciousness of the huckster.

                      You crushed PEOPLE -MILLIONS. EVERY person is the UNIVERSE, his world, with his joys, grief, children. All .... little ?! fool
                      Quote: Essex62
                      Forgotten Stalin's behests about the never-ending class struggle.

                      What kind of "class struggle" is there when classes ... have been annihilated long ago?
                      Quote: Essex62
                      But no, bourgeois psychology has not gone anywhere. It was necessary to clean, as Felix and Beria did.

                      Human essence and dignity did not disappear, but the "cleaners" themselves cleaned out - their own human the system
                      Quote: Essex62
                      There was no dead end, there was betrayal, the desire of the reincarnates to become masters

                      Why did your party and the regime grow so many TRAITORS? And WHERE -... honest, eh?
                      NOBODY interfered with raising the purest and most honest, but it got out, yes ...
                      What kind of party is this, where like flies flocked to, eh? belay lol laughing

                      And yes, the state simply could not provide funds for the social obligations taken to society. One went up, the other down, until it broke.
                      1. Essex62
                        Essex62 16 September 2020 19: 21 New
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                        Nonsense. Forgot how a Russian peasant was kept for centuries for goods cheaper than cattle? The Bolsheviks corrected this, and it is not easy to root out grasping reflexes. Here constant control is needed. Human nature. I agree, they haven't finished it.
                        There were millions of real communists among the rank and file. Only coups from above are always successful, the admin resource is the main factor, if smart. Your worthless Nikolashka was thrown off by his own entourage.
                        About unfulfilled social obligations is also nonsense. The country worked and provided everything necessary for people's livelihoods. The sabotage of the reborn traitors, cutting ties, destroying entire sectors, this does not pass without a trace. Well, like opofeosis, a flower in Moscow where the concentration of counterrevolutionary elments was off scale. For the reasons stated earlier. Loss of control. The classes have not gone anywhere, an illusion of the Kremlin elders. Tired of watching, relaxed.
                        There are now more than enough people who want to put the parasite master on our neck. Children and grandchildren really do not want a bloody civil war ...
    2. DrEng527
      DrEng527 15 September 2020 10: 21 New
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      Quote: Earnest
      Any army is always "redundant" from the point of view, for example, of the prima of the Bolshoi Theater.

      1) are you familiar with prims?
      2) There is a classic - in the army 1% of the population - this is the economic LIMIT!
  7. Earnest
    Earnest 14 September 2020 11: 44 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Yes and no. the army is created and kept under certain threats. experience 41 simply could not provide an opportunity for relaxation. Yes many. but the threat of a new war was enormous. and so there was an army that had passed many years of war, which only by the fact that it was available slowed down any opportunities. this power just standing still cooled any desire, even just to want to fight. the world was changing

    The reduction announced by the law of January 15, 1960 brought the army to the number in 2 million people... And ..... no aggression happened.

    Well, yes, well, yes ... just do not take out of the brackets the 1600 nuclear charges that the USSR had at that time. True, the beacons of overseas peacefulness had 20 of them, but this is a response to the Soviet threat, isn't it?
  8. DrEng527
    DrEng527 14 September 2020 14: 42 New
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    Quote: Earnest
    ? But "Uncle Joe" had no problems with employment ...

    see their measures for this ... request
  9. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 14 September 2020 15: 45 New
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    I have one impression that Comrade X-th pushing his empty in order to gather information for himself from comments, which, you will, are always more informative than his writings?
    None of his publications (including this one) are either deep or informative. Level 'agitation'. All slogan platitudes. Glad if I'm wrong
  10. Victorio
    Victorio 15 September 2020 09: 09 New
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    my father served as an urgent border guard, then a year in a military school in the city of Ordzhenikidze in the late forties and early fifties, discipline and training was almost military. marches, shooting from various rifle, night and day. nevertheless, other things were enough, so my father was expelled for the fight.
  11. Ruby
    Ruby 15 September 2020 09: 29 New
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    Military schools passed to two- and then three-year terms of training young officers. At the same time, their number grew steadily: from 1946 to 1953, more than 30 higher military schools and four academies were opened in the USSR!

    It took a war and a sea of ​​blood to realize that people were fighting, and the success or failure of the army directly depends on the level of their training and experience.
    The successes of the Germans at the beginning of the war were due precisely to the highest training of junior and middle command personnel. Having one hundred thousandth Reichswehr after Versailles, they could afford to select and prepare people very carefully. And the level of training of a private corresponded at least to a sergeant, and a sergeant to an officer. As a result, when the army was deployed, we received a ready-made corps of junior and middle command personnel.
    1. DrEng527
      DrEng527 15 September 2020 10: 26 New
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      Quote: Yakut
      very carefully select and prepare people.

      I recommend rereading the opinion of the State Committee for Journalism about the school of non-commissioned officers in RIA! What prevented this from being done in the Red Army before the war - just the tsarist non-commissioned officers became generals-marshals ... request
    2. Essex62
      Essex62 15 September 2020 16: 45 New
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      Faced with resistance, stronger than the European one, they lost the entire trained command staff. And in the end they were blown away. Although the successes in the early years of the invasion are impressive.
  12. Understanding
    Understanding 15 September 2020 19: 54 New
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    I thought that the introduction was over and was going to read the main text and this turns out to be the end ... negative