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"They are occupied by Russia": the candidate for prime minister of Japan has included the territories of the South Kuriles in the number of Japanese municipalities

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The Japanese media write about the initiative of the former General Secretary of the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan, Shigeru Ishiba. The man, who is one of the candidates for the post of prime minister of the country (after the departure of Shinzo Abe), announced a review of the number of local authorities in the country, which should be indicated when considering a strategy to support the regions.


In recent years, the number of municipalities in Japan was indicated at 1718. At the initiative of Shigeru Ishiba, there are 1724 of them.

It turned out that Shigeru Ishiba, who in different years headed the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Agriculture of Japan, "included" six municipalities in the South Kuril Islands in the lists.

From the statement of the representatives of the headquarters of Shigeru Ishiba:

Added northern territories (6 municipalities), illegally occupied by Russia.

This decision of his colleague, as it turns out, is not supported by all members of the governing council of the LDP in Japan. Ordinary Japanese have different views on Mr. Ishiba's decision. Let us present a few comments from readers of the Japanese media, which tells about the inclusion of the territory of the South Kuriles in the number of Japanese municipalities.

"They are occupied by Russia": the candidate for prime minister of Japan has included the territories of the South Kuriles in the number of Japanese municipalities


It makes no sense to include something that does not function as a municipality. I think this is a bad performance. I think it's better to implement the return (of the islands) first.

I believe that the northern territories will not return anyway, even if a certain amount from the budget is included in the development of local self-government. It doesn't matter how many local government bodies are there, because they are still controlled by Russia.

Mr. Ishiba's speech sounds beautiful. But he says how "it should be", ignoring reality.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 September 2020 13: 07 New
    26
    Again the Ipenes opened their mouths. The Kurils are Russian land. The fat point on this one.
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 13 September 2020 13: 19 New
      +9
      What was required to be expected, and changed ahead of schedule, will now threaten with missile tanks no less.
      1. Arthur73
        Arthur73 13 September 2020 13: 31 New
        15
        This is the election program of the next "Yapon hawk" in order to attract the electorate wink . Abe could not. The previous ones could not, and the rest will not succeed! The Kuriles are the territory of Russia! soldier
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 13 September 2020 16: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: Arthur73
          This is the election program of the next "Yapon hawk" in order to attract the electorate

          What are they smoking there all over the world? Surely something forbidden. The Lithuanian parliament, according to its wishes, appointed Tikhonovskaya as the president of Belarus, the Americans approved Guaido as the president of Venezuela, here these still narrow-film ones at the behest of pike, at their will, the heads of municipalities in Russia are appointed ...

          It remains for the Poles to appoint the Horse or Navalny as the President of Russia - a full freak show will be ...
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 13 September 2020 17: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            The Lithuanian parliament, according to its wishes, appointed Tikhonovskaya as the president of Belarus, the Americans approved Guaido as the president of Venezuela, here these still narrow-film ones at the behest of pike, at their will, the heads of municipalities in Russia are appointed ...

            The non-brothers, again, have some kind of Crimean government "functioning". request
            Some kind of fever ... request
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 13 September 2020 22: 34 New
              +3
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Some kind of fever ...

              This is all COVID-19 is to blame - the pandemic affects them this way ... laughing
          2. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 13 September 2020 22: 17 New
            +3
            the world is slowly slipping into chaos
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        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 13 September 2020 20: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Arthur73
          Abe could not. The previous ones could not, and the rest will fail! The Kuril Islands are the territory of Russia!

          So far, yes, but among the Liberal Democrats there are already those who support Japanese ideas, and public opinion is being created. So, you need to crush the infection at the root until a pandemic begins.
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 13 September 2020 13: 45 New
        +3
        And the bolt on these occupied nakazumas, as they say, matari oyabun? And then we'll talk
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 13 September 2020 17: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Senka Naughty
        will now threaten tank missiles no less.

        Delivering tanks with missiles is an interesting option.
        Let them try. Until the budget is exhausted. laughing laughing
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 13 September 2020 13: 23 New
      38
      Why did you even start "flirting" with them? For Russia, there are no other interpretations of the Kuril Islands' belonging, who has problems - go to ... the farm to catch butterflies. My grandfather liberated them, the islands, and, many years later, he told a lot of things about the "fugueeds". And for 731 detachments, numerous other crimes against humanity and the incessant barbaric extermination of whales, one can only regret that they did not finish off at all. A kick in the ass along with their "investments" and "joint development projects ...". On Kunashir, build a huge figure in the form of what we put on them.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 13 September 2020 16: 44 New
        10
        Quote: lexus
        For Russia, there are no other interpretations of the Kuril Islands, who have problems - go to ... the farm to catch butterflies. My grandfather liberated them, the islands, and, many years later, he told a lot of things about the "fugueeds" that were unpleasant. And for 731 detachments, numerous other crimes against humanity and the incessant barbaric extermination of whales, one can only regret that they did not finish off at all.

        I remembered - I'm not vindictive. Just wicked and good memory
        “The war negates all agreements. You were defeated, and let's proceed from the current situation. " (c) Yutaro Komura - head of the Japanese delegation to the Russian-Japanese negotiations on the conclusion of the 1905 Portsmouth Peace Treaty.

        Let's omit the history of the discovery of the islands, let's remember how they got to the USSR as a result of Japan's defeat in World War II.

        Poking yapps these words at all levels - from the President and the Russian Foreign Ministry to newspaper articles and talk shows on TV incessantly. For EVERY Japanese to learn these words by heart and to have these words imprinted in their genes.
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 13 September 2020 17: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: lexus
        Why did you even start "flirting" with them?

        This and who is the initiator - it's time to investigate. hi
    3. iouris
      iouris 13 September 2020 13: 23 New
      -3
      Quote: aszzz888
      The Kurils are Russian land.

      It is clearly defended by the generals-heroines of the Russian Federation, "working" in the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc. And the Japanese know about it.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 13 September 2020 13: 25 New
        -1

        iouris (iouris)
        Today, 13: 23

        0
        Quote: aszzz888
        The Kurils are Russian land.

        She is protected by the generals-heroines of the Russian Federation, "working" in the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc. And the Japanese know about it.
        Thank God !, not all!
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 13 September 2020 16: 26 New
        +2
        Oh, how you want to close the Russian fleet! They can't even eat!
    4. Finches
      Finches 13 September 2020 13: 26 New
      14
      If you want to come to power, you need to take into account the% of frostbitten Japanese who consider the Kuril Islands their land, the number of frostbitten Japanese grows year after year due to the frostbite of Japanese education in general and the frostbite of school programs in particular, which are written by the Anglo-Saxons, where the latter, without hesitation, write, that the nuclear bombing of Japanese cities was carried out by the USSR, and the Americans, on the contrary, saved Japan from complete occupation and are Japan's true friends! And the fact that it is the Americans who are today's occupants is being diligently obscured - therefore, they rape Japanese women for free when they want and generally behave rudely, but modern Japanese politicians do not see this, and do not want to see, for that yes - the Kuriles! Kemsk parish! I-I! laughing
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 13 September 2020 13: 29 New
        +2

        Zyablitsev (Eugene)
        Today, 13: 26

        +1
        If you want to come to power, you need to take into account the% of frostbitten Japanese who consider the Kuril Islands their land, ...
        This is the trump card of those in power in ipenia.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 14 September 2020 11: 18 New
          0
          Secretary General of the Japanese government Yoshihide Suga has been elected the new leader of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party (LDPJ).
          Suga, 71, is a supporter of the outgoing head of government, Shinzo Abe. As it became known, he received 377 votes out of 535 possible at an extraordinary party vote. His main rivals in the fight for the post of LDPJ head - former Defense Minister Shigeru Ishiba and ex-Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida - gained 68 and 89 votes, respectively.

          The belligerent candidate flew by. All. Until the next election.
      2. Victor Red
        Victor Red 13 September 2020 14: 10 New
        +6
        Kemsk volost is understandable. wink
        But, the question arises, why do the Japanese need those four islands in real life? It's all about the Iturup rhenium deposit. You can find out what this beast is here:
        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9
        So that you are right behind everything there are grabbing handfuls.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 13 September 2020 16: 56 New
          +5
          Quote: Victor Red
          But, the question arises, why do the Japanese need those four islands in real life? It's all about the Iturup rhenium deposit.

          It’s not just rhenium.
          The consequences of the transfer of the Kuril Islands, two or four islands, will be extremely negative: the possession of them makes the Sea of ​​Okhotsk an internal Russian one, where Russian nuclear submarines are calmly based, keeping the USA and Japan at gunpoint. In the event of the transfer of the islands to Japan, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will become a "passage yard".
          And besides,
          Several years ago, the Japanese honestly stated that in the event of the return of the northern territories (Kuriles), they will scrupulously fulfill their allied obligations to the Americans, and will certainly provide these islands for the deployment of US military bases if the US asks Japan to do so.
          And the United States will "ask" - you can be sure .... If the Sea of ​​Okhotsk ceases to be an internal sea of ​​Russia, then a 10-mile zone will come to light. NATO warships in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will be at home just 20 kilometers from the Russian coast.
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 13 September 2020 17: 54 New
            +4
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            And the United States will "ask" - you can be sure .... If the Sea of ​​Okhotsk ceases to be an internal sea of ​​Russia, then a 10-mile zone will come to light. NATO warships in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will be at home just 20 kilometers from the Russian coast.

            Even now, the United States seems to be not only asking, but also insisting and pressing. Under the carpet.
          2. Victor Red
            Victor Red 13 September 2020 18: 08 New
            +3
            You are right, it's not so much about rhenium as about the military-strategic position of the island, and the mineral will become a pleasant bonus and not very small.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 13 September 2020 22: 17 New
              +3
              Quote: Victor Red
              it is not so much about rhenium as about the military-strategic position of the island, and the mineral will become a pleasant bonus and not very small.

              Strategy is everything. How the striped ones were eager to go to the Crimea - "Who controls the Crimea, belongs to the Black Sea"! It did not grow together. Well, that means you need to try to bypass.
              "Normal heroes always go around" (c)
        2. Grits
          Grits 14 September 2020 03: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: Victor Red
          It's all about the Iturup rhenium deposit

          It's a shame that such a unique deposit is wasted. No matter how cynical it may sound, if Iturup were Japanese, then at the top of the Kudryavy volcano there would have been a rhenium mining installation for a long time. And the Japanese would earn a lot of money on this. Including selling to us. Because we consider ourselves too rich (having such mineral reserves), but at the same time being poor (not developing them at all). And I can give a lot of such examples of a disregard for the richest deposits.
          1. Victor Red
            Victor Red 14 September 2020 13: 00 New
            +1
            It's a shame that such a unique deposit is wasted.

            What, they are not conducted at all?
        3. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 15 September 2020 09: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Victor Red
          Kemsk volost is understandable. wink
          But, the question arises, why do the Japanese need those four islands in real life? It's all about the Iturup rhenium deposit. You can find out what this beast is here:
          https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9
          So that you are right behind everything there are grabbing handfuls.


          First of all, we and the islands are losing part of the 200-mile economic zone - and this is the opportunity for the Japanese to calmly fish in their sector of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, constantly crawling into our waters - and this is already billions.
      3. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 13 September 2020 15: 43 New
        +2
        Let's see if he promises to do hara-kiri at his father's grave?
        ... if you want to come to power, you need to consider ...

        One promised ---- but he did not! It is wrong negative Apparently I did not find a friend who, according to their rules, should help, chopping off the head, am if something went wrong. laughing
        After all, it will frustrate money in advance.
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 13 September 2020 17: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Reptiloid
          One promised ---- but he did not!

          He is not the first, not the last. How can you not remember about lying on the rails and about smoking on the forehead? request
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 13 September 2020 17: 56 New
            +2
            Yes, in 98 I remember how my relatives were indignant, I myself was still at school, I was too small, but then I understood from the results.
          2. Clear
            Clear 13 September 2020 20: 47 New
            +5
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            Quote: Reptiloid
            One promised ---- but he did not!

            He is not the first, not the last. How can you not remember about lying on the rails and about smoking on the forehead? request
            One of them (Yeltsin) has already died, the kingdom of heaven, and the other (Yatsenyuk) hit the road so quickly that a bullet could not catch up with him.
      4. Simargl
        Simargl 13 September 2020 18: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        If you want to come to power, you need to take into account the% of frostbitten Japanese who consider the Kuril Islands their land
        Maybe this is good? If things go like this, any election program mentioning the islands will reduce the %% support.
    5. Clear
      Clear 13 September 2020 20: 42 New
      +2
      Mr. Ishiba's speech sounds beautiful. But he says how "it should be", ignoring reality.

      And it doesn't sound pretty no
  2. RUnnm
    RUnnm 13 September 2020 13: 09 New
    16
    They are taking an example from Ukraine. There, too, the Crimean Prosecutor's Office and other bodies are there. And in fact - "say the word" halva "at least a hundred times, it won't get sweeter in your mouth".
    Yes, now Russia is used as a horror story in any matter. But no one thinks how they themselves will extricate themselves from this, if Russia passes through these waves and emerges much stronger than now. What will Japan do if the Germany-Russia-China alliance is formed?
    1. RUnnm
      RUnnm 13 September 2020 13: 20 New
      +5
      But the problem is that we do not have a unified, pro-Russian political elite - with one hand we strengthen the defense capability, with the other we put Chubais and Rogozin at the trough and protect them; we talk about the need to form a single, educated and responsible civil society, but in fact we are creating Gapon-Navalny, throwing money into the crowd with the words "slaves", taking dogs on charters and raising toasts to the "agro-industrial lobby"; we broadcast about sovereignty, and then everyone, except for Poklonskaya, stand up and give a standing ovation to the US senators; we defend Iturup and immediately give away Damansky, drenched in blood ...
      And so in every little thing, in every question ...
      There is not and will not be a real strengthening of the country until the authorities begin not only to hear the people, but also cease to live only for the sake of reproducing themselves, seeing their future, the future of their children outside Russia.
    2. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 13 September 2020 13: 24 New
      +6
      Quote: RUnnm
      What will Japan do if the Germany-Russia-China alliance is formed?

      Your words to God in the ears. Great doubts about loyal, reliable allies. Aviation, navy, infantry ..
    3. Wolverine
      Wolverine 13 September 2020 14: 37 New
      +1
      Union with Germany? Where did this nonsense come from about the fact that the union of Russia and Germany is a nightmare of the Anglo-Saxons? I wonder in what such historical period Germany and Russia had such close relations that this cartoon about the union arose? As you don't go deep into the history of relations between Germany and Russia, there are so many wars: they fought with Prussia, fought with Austria-Hungary, fought with the German Empire, fought with the third Reich ...
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 13 September 2020 15: 19 New
        +4
        There is no short answer here. For we fought with all neighbors - starting with Japan, passing through China, Mongolia, Basmachi, Ottoman, Poles, Germans, French, Balts ... Bulgarians, Romanians, Hungarians, Norwegians, etc. in WWII, even the Greeks managed to give up after WWII. ..
        But the question is something else - apart from the army and the navy, Russia has no allies. And it won't. But temporary, situational partners, when their interests and ours coincide - why not.
        As for the questions about when the Germans helped - so remember who created the same Russian fleet, who commanded it, why the German settlement appeared in St. Petersburg, who was Barclay de Tolly, Wrangel, Kruzenshtern, Dahl, and the same Catherine Great ... who helped the Soviet republic to build industry, who, even during the Cold War, did not give a damn about the sanctions, finished building Friendship ...? But there are a lot of examples.
        And precisely because the West has always tried to drive a wedge between us - and by creating, financing Hitler, setting him on the Telmanists, just not to let them come to power, and who in WWI was dragging Russia by the ears into the war? Yes, the letters of Nicholas 2 to the Kaiser alone are enough to understand how Russia and Germany did not want a confrontation.
        Opinions and examples from the point of view of both yours and my position - the sea. The question is that now our interests converge and we need to use this to the maximum ...
      2. Grits
        Grits 14 September 2020 03: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Wolverine
        they fought with Prussia, fought with Austria-Hungary, fought with the German Empire, fought with the third Reich ... When did you not fight, though?

        More often, probably only with the Turks
    4. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 13 September 2020 17: 01 New
      0
      Quote: RUnnm
      They are taking an example from Ukraine. There, too, the Crimean Prosecutor's Office and other bodies are there.

      And interestingly - in Ukraine, the prosecutor of the Crimea "and etc.", and now the heads of Japanese municipalities in the Russian territory receive a salary or so, on a voluntary basis? If they "work" for a salary, then appoint me, please, the prosecutor of Lvov or Warsaw - I will be happy ... good
      1. RUnnm
        RUnnm 13 September 2020 17: 06 New
        +1
        Of course, everything is from the budget. I also dream of such a position.
    5. Grits
      Grits 14 September 2020 03: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: RUnnm
      They are taking an example from Ukraine. There is also the Prosecutor's Office of Crimea and TP op

      Can you imagine what kind of competition and what queue of those wishing to work in such municipalities. This is the sinecure that no one dreamed of
  3. Tiksi-3
    Tiksi-3 13 September 2020 13: 09 New
    +4
    when the cancer on the mountain whistles, we will transfer the islands right away, but not earlier ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 13 September 2020 13: 25 New
      10
      Signed - walk Vasya!
      1. Senka naughty
        Senka naughty 13 September 2020 13: 45 New
        +3
        "You want to live not so raskoryachishsya .." Only after 3-4 generations, ungrateful descendants are ready to wipe any piece of paper. The problem with the islands is that they are not inhabited and are practically not used. You just need a little bit of intelligence and redirect the flow of guests from the south, from Moscow, to the development of our eastern territories.
  4. Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 13 September 2020 13: 10 New
    +7
    One of them has already started smoking to health problems ...
  5. Zhan
    Zhan 13 September 2020 13: 11 New
    +4
    I believe that the northern territories will not return anyway, even if a certain amount from the budget is included in the development of local self-government. It doesn't matter how many local government bodies are there, because they are still controlled by Russia.

    Indeed, did the Japanese decide to leave this topic, or did our new constitutional amendments have an impact? smile I rubbed my eyes again and read ..
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 13 September 2020 13: 26 New
      +4
      There are sane people in all countries.
  6. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 13 September 2020 13: 14 New
    11
    I believe that the northern territories will not return anyway,

    The Japanese thinks correctly. The smokes are ours.
  7. Denis812
    Denis812 13 September 2020 13: 18 New
    +5
    Well, the comrade official is doing everything right.
    +6 mayors + 6 posts of municipal councilors, heads of committees, commissions of all kinds. Committees for Youth Affairs, Sports, Council for Migrants' Affairs more.
    Lots of places for your guys :)
    Well, the fact that the territories will remain with Russia, well, then it will not be their fault, but the accursed opposition.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 September 2020 13: 21 New
    +2
    They do not take into account an important feature of our mentality ... the more actively they "run into" Russia, the faster it is mobilized.
  9. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 September 2020 13: 21 New
    +2
    laughing How would we "allocate" denyuh to the Japanese Autonomous Federal District laughing
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 13 September 2020 13: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      How would we "allocate" denyuh to the Japanese Autonomous Federal District

      If this candidate continues in the same spirit, then "autonomous", and even "federal" may turn out to be too bold. Tokyo Municipal District, Sakhalin Oblast - that's enough. And let them find the day laughing
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 13 September 2020 13: 32 New
        +2

        Volodin (Alexey)
        Today, 13: 27

        +1
        Quote: Gennady Fomkin
        How would we "allocate" denyuh to the Japanese Autonomous Federal District

        If this candidate and will continue in the same spirit ...
        This is his main stake, the campaign.
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 13 September 2020 15: 11 New
          +1
          but to file a lawsuit against this Ipon in some sort of Basmanny court, and solder the term for an attempt to attack and seize Russian territory. And solder him pyatrik. And then see how they will choose him and how he will then broadcast on behalf of the Yap with a criminal sentence. Why then would someone listen to a fugitive criminal and talk to him about something. First, let him serve his own, and then broadcast something.
  10. Shuttle
    Shuttle 13 September 2020 13: 23 New
    +4
    What about the oppression of the Ainu in Japan itself? This topic should have been stirred up for a long time.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 13 September 2020 13: 27 New
      +2

      Shuttle (Dmitry)
      Today, 13: 23
      0
      What about the oppression of the Ainu in Japan itself? This topic should have been stirred up for a long time.
      so it is so, but who should "move"? Our foreign policy has no interference in the affairs of other states. wink
  11. GREG68
    GREG68 13 September 2020 13: 25 New
    +4
    Another hint to our authorities that it is necessary to increase the military presence in the Far East. Deploy additional air defense systems (and not only long-range ones), air defense aviation, reinforce with new Pacific Fleet ships.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 13 September 2020 13: 55 New
      0
      Another hint to everyone that when you avoid the battle and agree to shame ..... one gets automatically, and the other as a very likely development of events!
      Only POWER, only the best, loyal friends, defenders of the country, the army and the navy, and even the PEOPLE, is the support of our state!
      1. GREG68
        GREG68 13 September 2020 13: 57 New
        +3
        My colleague fully agrees. And by the way, building up the military presence in the Far East will automatically entail the development of infrastructure. New military units will be deployed and, accordingly, this will entail the creation of military camps, schools, kindergartens, new jobs, etc. And now in the Far East one population outflow is observed
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 13 September 2020 20: 14 New
          +1
          Grigory, In the Far East, build an automobile plant for the production of cars (cars and trucks) - to block the import of "Japanese ferrous metal" (and the Chinese too), sell seafood only through Vladivostok (with wrapping - let them pay). Convert sushi bars into dumplings.
          1. GREG68
            GREG68 13 September 2020 20: 35 New
            +2
            It's a good idea, but I think it's not feasible request smile
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 13 September 2020 21: 15 New
              0
              Issue an order (decree) - "sushi bar" is prohibited, renamed into a dumplings (with "fish dumplings"). From July 1, 2020, a ban on "right-hand drive" cars of the M2 and M3 class is already in force - to extend the ban to M1. To build an automobile plant in the Far East is a "utopian" idea - like the first flight into space of Sputnik, Belka and Strelka, Yuri Gagarin - is difficult, but feasible, there would be a desire and WILL, that's what we have a problem with ...
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 15 September 2020 09: 08 New
                0
                Quote: cat Rusich
                From July 1, 2020, a ban on "right-hand drive" cars of the M2 and M3 class is already in force - extend the ban to M1.

                You don’t understand that now prohibiting the operation of cars with right-hand drive is a blow to your own population of the Far East. Which may not be forgiven ...
                What needs to be done without such game, and for a long time - to prohibit the import of such cars as the first step. And in 2027, prohibit re-registration. Operation is not prohibited. And that's all. And in 25-30 years such cars will slowly die out
                1. cat Rusich
                  cat Rusich 15 September 2020 19: 55 New
                  0
                  Cyril, why did they allow "right-hand drive"? - They "hammered" on the supply of the Far East, and "quotas for seafood" from Moscow were sold. You can raise duties on "right-hand drive" ... You still need to decide how we will supply the Far East, "right-hand drive Japanese" will "leave" - ​​"left-hand drive Chinese and Koreans" will come, but you need to build (or revive) an automobile plant, for example, in Novosibirsk or in Krasnoyarsk - that would be shorter transportation. And put a "barrier" from Chinese, Korean cars.
                  1. Cyril G ...
                    Cyril G ... 15 September 2020 21: 08 New
                    +2
                    Quote: cat Rusich
                    Cyril, why did they allow "right-hand drive"? - They "hammered" on the supply of the Far East, and "quotas for seafood" from Moscow were sold. You can raise duties on "right-hand drive" ... You still need to decide how we will supply the Far East, "right-hand drive Japanese" will "leave" - ​​"left-hand drive Chinese and Koreans" will come, but you need to build (or revive) an automobile plant, for example, in Novosibirsk or in Krasnoyarsk - that would be shorter transportation. And put a "barrier" from Chinese, Korean cars.


                    Let's separate the flies from the cutlets.
                    First of all, Japanese women are higher in quality than Koreans and especially Chinese women. BUT it's not about that
                    The fact that they are more dangerous excuse the crap from our arrogant powers that be. After all, I've already left for a quarter of a century. There is something to compare with.
                    But I'm talking about something else - the interests of the population cannot be infringed upon. It is absolutely impossible to prohibit the operation for the next 15-20 years. The situation is aggravated by the fact that a number of functional analogs in Russia are simply not made. I'm talking about minibuses and large minivans of category B.
                    So I agree - you need a state program to play for a long time.
                    and. to build a car plant in Irkutsk. Do not forget there will be a cluster. There is also an aircraft factory.
                    b. twist your arms, can reduce taxes - but make the delivery of cars to the Far East preferential. Maybe government subsidy programs.
                    in. prohibit the import of right-hand drive vehicles.
                    d. on the import of the Ketayans and Koreans, begin to tighten the duties to unacceptable ones. If you want to sell with us - build a car factory with full localization for 7 years.
                    finally, in 2050, ban the operation of right-hand drive vehicles.
                    And it was in this sequence, but not otherwise.
    2. mihail_mihail0620
      mihail_mihail0620 13 September 2020 14: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: GREG68
      Another hint to our authorities that it is necessary to increase the military presence in the Far East. Deploy additional air defense systems (and not only long-range ones), air defense aviation, reinforce with new Pacific Fleet ships.

      We need military bases, but we still need a federal program to increase the number of people living in the Far East, a real, multi-vector program with all sorts of preferences and benefits.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 15 September 2020 09: 11 New
        +1
        DV prices are high for everything. And the salaries are not much different, because the Far East is emptying. And that's why I left Kamchatka
    3. Grits
      Grits 14 September 2020 03: 22 New
      0
      Quote: GREG68
      Another hint to our authorities that it is necessary to increase the military presence in the Far East. Deploy additional air defense systems (and not only long-range ones), air defense aviation, reinforce with new Pacific Fleet ships.

      And I really want to have a serious military base (joint VKS and the Navy) in the Kuril Islands. Reinforced with good air defense and coastal complexes. Matua is asking for this candidacy. Why, something died out about Matua ...
  12. Machete
    Machete 13 September 2020 13: 28 New
    +3
    A bad example is contagious. Ukrainians also run Crimea from outside. True, they do not manage anything, but since they want to think so ...
    And the yapps, apparently, decided that it would be easier for them to survive the loss ...
  13. Piramidon
    Piramidon 13 September 2020 13: 30 New
    +6
    Japanese media reports on the initiative the former Shigeru Ishiba, Secretary General of the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan

    People, haven't you noticed the keyword "former"? From the "former", as from a cornucopia, all kinds of crap are poured into the nets. Who is it now, and what is it cooler than a regular blogger?
  14. venik
    venik 13 September 2020 13: 31 New
    +1
    ".....Added northern territories (6 municipalities), illegally occupied Russia..... "
    ========
    Have you learned from the "ukropatriots"? Those, too, are always talking about the "illegally occupied Crimea"!
    Verily - bad example is contagious!
    fool
  15. Sergey39
    Sergey39 13 September 2020 13: 36 New
    +4
    Another 404 country was drawn on the map.
    1. Clear
      Clear 13 September 2020 20: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Sergey39
      Another 404 country was drawn on the map.

      That's right, Sergei. Japan does not even have its own national flag (symbol) no
      1. Grits
        Grits 14 September 2020 03: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Clear
        Japan does not even have its own national flag (symbol)

        belay
        I'm Japanese full of all sorts of symbols. Not less than ours.
  16. HAM
    HAM 13 September 2020 13: 44 New
    +1
    What a charm ... now you can cut a yenk for the maintenance of something that is not ... it seems like the budget is being mastered by the municipalities ... the cunning Ishibo ...
  17. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 13 September 2020 13: 49 New
    +4
    Can you calm down now? It seems like the islands have already become part of Japan.
  18. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 13 September 2020 13: 50 New
    +4
    And why, cool, six municipalities are included in the general budget, as the "occupied" ones require a lot of money for restoration, I suppose there are already candidates for work and are just waiting for a signal when to come for a salary! Corruption is corruption in Japan too!
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 13 September 2020 13: 51 New
    +2
    A greyhound nationalist can come to power!
    This is a worldwide trend.
    We also have a request for a more decisive leader !!! liberals can go through the forest at once!
    1. cniza
      cniza 13 September 2020 17: 08 New
      +2
      I think this is an attempt to win votes for selection in premieres and no more ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 September 2020 17: 12 New
        +1
        Politicians, their support service monitors the mood among voters!
        There will be a demand in society, especially when it is predominant, then there will be a corresponding leader / candidate!
        Everything is like a textbook.
        1. cniza
          cniza 13 September 2020 20: 59 New
          +2
          Yes, politicians have a competition, but people have nerves and life ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 September 2020 21: 28 New
            +1
            Power is too sweet a thing ... they want and to achieve it, do not stop at anything.
  20. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 13 September 2020 13: 53 New
    10
    ***

    -Japan, with the support of the Soviet Union, became a member of the UN, signed and ratified the Charter of the organization, which contains Article 107, which states that all the results of World War II are inviolable.

    -The war between the USSR and Japan was completed on September 2, 1945 by the signing by the Japanese of an act of unconditional surrender.

    -The state of war was officially terminated on October 19, 1956, when a joint Declaration was signed: "The state of war between the USSR and Japan ceases from the date of entry into force of this Declaration, and peace and good-neighborly friendly relations are restored between them."

    -The Kuril Islands came under the control of the USSR as a result of World War II, which was stipulated in the Cairo Declaration of 1943, the Potsdam Declaration of 1945, as well as in the 1951 peace treaty signed in San Francisco.

    -Japan unconditionally recognized the Potsdam and Cairo Declarations and signed the act of surrender in 1945. And in 1951, the Japanese abandoned their claims to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.

    ---

    Salmon tail splashed on the wave

    The islands disappeared in the fog

    They will not return

    Deal with Nihon ...

    © V.V. Vorontsov Islands of the Rising Sun of Russia

    ***
  21. Victorio
    Victorio 13 September 2020 13: 59 New
    +2
    all once, something and somewhere occupied.
  22. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 13 September 2020 14: 04 New
    +2
    The man, who is one of the candidates for the post of prime minister of the country (after the departure of Shinzo Abe), announced a review of the number of local authorities in the country, which should be indicated when considering a strategy to support the regions.

    It must be understood that it is about financial support.
    This means that funds are needed to maintain 6 additional municipalities, including funds:
    a) For the construction or lease of the premises of the municipality;
    b) For equipping with furniture, office equipment, consumables (paper, cartridges for printers, etc.);
    c) On the salaries of the full staff of officials and household services;
    d) To pay utility bills.
    But, since they will not function anyway, in the absence of such an opportunity, no one will create any municipalities. And the funds are allocated and the amount is not childish!
    And they will go into the pocket of Mr. Shiger Ishiba, companions. IMHO.
    And someone says that corruption is a purely Russian national feature belay
  23. thinker
    thinker 13 September 2020 14: 17 New
    +2
    write about the initiative ... Shigeru Ishiba.
    Election fuss, agitation. He also dreams of an Asian counterpart to NATO. Let's see, General Secretary of the Cabinet of Ministers Yoshihide Suga is among the favorites.

    Liberal Democratic Party candidates for the post of prime minister (left) Shigeru Ishiba, Yoshihide Suga and Fumio Kishida.
    https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/09/987294670697-post-abe-candidates-make-late-stage-appeals-in-debate.html
    1. cniza
      cniza 13 September 2020 17: 07 New
      +1
      They will first be freed from the occupation of the United States, and then make some attempts ...
  24. Alien From
    Alien From 13 September 2020 14: 22 New
    +2
    Yaps, like non-brothers, have a missing limb syndrome ..... there are no islands / peninsula, but there are municipalities))
  25. viktor.
    viktor. 13 September 2020 14: 26 New
    +2
    The dog barks The caravan is coming, everyone wants something, I want to squeeze Alaska, Shigeru Kuriles, Banderlog Kuban, There is a transfer, Let them talk. wassat
  26. 1536
    1536 13 September 2020 14: 39 New
    +2
    This Japanese boor, if the Japanese choose him as their leader, should not be allowed beyond the border posts of Russia, to give a turn. Do the same with the rest of the Japanese "tourists". They have nothing to do in Russia!
  27. Ham
    Ham 13 September 2020 14: 47 New
    +4
    good old pre-election populism ... all that remains is to go to the grave of your father and there to take a solemn oath like abe ...
    Abe, by the way, did not fulfill the oath given at the grave of his father and did not make hara-kiri for himself;)
    everything becomes shallow and even samurai turn into proto-ukrov
  28. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 13 September 2020 14: 48 New
    0
    The Kuril Islands are the territory of Russia !!!

    The territory that passed to us as a result of World War II is absolutely legal and just and we will not surrender it to anyone without a fight !!!

    Japan should be reminded more often what they did in the occupied territories during that period and how many people died through their fault in Korea, China and other countries subjected to Japanese aggression !!!

    And now everything looks as if Russia took and attacked Japan by capturing part of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands.

    With every Japanese attack on the Kuril Islands in our direction, we must remind them why it happened and for what !!!

    And any attempt by Japan to return the islands by force will end in disaster for Japan, Russia has enough funds and forces to completely destroy Japan.
  29. orionvitt
    orionvitt 13 September 2020 14: 49 New
    +1
    But they would not go, they are at a certain address. By the way, they know the address.
  30. PValery53
    PValery53 13 September 2020 14: 50 New
    +3
    Why are they offending the Ainu on the island of Hokkaido? - It's not good somehow. It's time for the Yapas to present the Ainu with an autonomy called the Ainu-Russian Autonomous Republic. And then everything will be fine.
  31. viktor.
    viktor. 13 September 2020 14: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    enough funds

    Piece of 5 Iskander Vigorous for the eyes bully
  32. irbis0373
    irbis0373 13 September 2020 15: 10 New
    +2
    Well, somehow I even put it on. I whine the Japanese - the Kuril Islands like ours and Kiev - Crimea - ours. Well tired of this whining!
    It's high time to admit that these are Russian territories.
  33. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 13 September 2020 15: 16 New
    +2
    Yes, a flag in hand and an anchor in ....
  34. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 13 September 2020 15: 18 New
    +1
    Here is an amazing nation - the Japanese. For centuries, they have plundered and terrorized the peoples around them, taking away, raping and destroying. By pursuing the dirtiest and most exploitative policies the world has ever seen. And now they have the audacity to whine and cry about the fact that something was "taken" and "occupied" from them. And even if it is so - specifically to these guys for their unprecedented impudence, treachery and insolence, for their Nazi-imbued look at the surrounding peoples - let them cry while they have something, let them spit on these islands. From their proud samurai, only faded pictures remained, now they are just hucksters who are forced to beg.
  35. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 13 September 2020 15: 19 New
    0
    one more, God forgive me, with the Ministry of Crimea Affairs
  36. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 13 September 2020 15: 22 New
    +3
    Meli Emelya, your (pre-election) week! And let the voters give the knife to the kusungobu, so that later it will be possible to justify himself, according to the bushido code, for unrealizable political chatter.
  37. Lesorub
    Lesorub 13 September 2020 15: 35 New
    +3
    Added northern territories (6 municipalities) illegally occupied by Russia

    Following the example of Western "partners" - against this person and everything connected with him, it is necessary to impose sanctions, it seems Ishiba is playing a populist game.
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  39. NF68
    NF68 13 September 2020 15: 54 New
    0
    Sharing the skin of an unkilled bear is not an easy task. But whether he includes these municipalities among the Japanese ones or not, nothing will change anyway. It seems to be close to the elbow, but you can't bite it.
  40. pexotinec
    pexotinec 13 September 2020 15: 55 New
    0
    Oh, why now they will give money to the Kuriles. Well, the Japs give.
  41. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 13 September 2020 15: 55 New
    0
    Shigeru Ishiba, who in different years headed the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Agriculture of Japan, "included" six municipalities in the Southern Kuril Islands in the lists.

    What can I say:
  42. AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 13 September 2020 16: 04 New
    0
    - How many not shout "Halva!" - it won't get sweeter in your mouth © Hodja Nasreddin.
    By the way, Crimea also applies.
  43. ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 13 September 2020 16: 10 New
    +1
    Well, include Hokkaido in the Sakhalin region, let the yellow ebones rage ...;)
  44. fa2998
    fa2998 13 September 2020 16: 14 New
    0
    Quote: RUnnm
    a Germany-Russia-China alliance will be formed?

    I think in Germany they will form the government of East Prussia, There the Finns will catch up and appoint the mayor of Vyborg. lol laughing
  45. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 13 September 2020 16: 34 New
    +3
    Did the skakuas gnaw this ishiba? They also have Crimea - an "occupied territory". In general, there is already a desire to get a good break on cabbage soup and so and so. Economically.
  46. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 13 September 2020 16: 35 New
    -3
    Strong man! A supporter of the hard line! "These Russians do not understand another language!" bully

    Well, he postulated this and then what? laughing

    Although, in principle, it could be given in exchange for oil and gas contracts, for example ... what
  47. frizzy
    frizzy 13 September 2020 16: 44 New
    0
    Looks like bureaucrats in all countries, without exception, have nothing to do, well, at least the Faberge scratched their heads, or they threaten to war, take away, return, etc.
  48. Jager
    Jager 13 September 2020 16: 44 New
    +2
    Hokkaido is occupied by the Japanese. I propose to include it in the plan for the development of new territories of the Russian Federation for 2021.
  49. cniza
    cniza 13 September 2020 17: 04 New
    +1
    Mr. Ishiba's speech sounds beautiful. But he says how "it should be", ignoring reality.


    Ordinary people think smarter than politicians ...
  50. WapentakeLokki
    WapentakeLokki 13 September 2020 17: 26 New
    +1
    ..they would have better thought about China .. (. and in the PRC they perfectly remember the WW II move and the Shanghai massacre and detachment 731 .. but then at 45 they (PLA) did not have a fleet, but now it is and is amphibious forces ... but the kamikaze hurricanes in order to save the descendants of the Goddess Amaterasu may not exist, and then the new fleet of Khabulai will still reach the shores of the Land of the Rising Sun and .. the samurai will answer for everything .. (and the Chinas do not have that Slavic humanity to the defeated enemy like the Soviet Union in 45 ...) in general, the Japs should think carefully ... and don't give a damn about the well..hah .. but on the allies under the mattress flag ... well, the example of the Anglo-Saxons and Poland at 39 showed how they (angles) should be believed ... ha ha