Ukrainian Navy may receive British missile boats

British-built large missile boat of the Vita project of the Qatar Navy

The naval forces of Ukraine may be armed with British boats. According to the Ukrainian web resource Evropeyskaya Pravda, Britain has offered to build a batch of missile boats for Ukraine.

According to the newspaper, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has received a proposal to build eight large missile boats for the Ukrainian Navy under the British project. The first two boats are to be built in Great Britain, the remaining six - at Ukrainian shipyards. At the same time, it is noted that at the moment neither the developer nor the type of boats are known, but the wishes of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine have been voiced. According to them, the boats should have a length of 50 meters, a displacement of 400 tons, a full speed of 35 to 50 knots. The main weapon is the Neptune anti-ship missiles of foreign or Ukrainian production. Each boat must carry eight anti-ship missiles.

The project is to be financed through a loan of £ 1,25 billion ($ 1,6 billion), which will allegedly be provided by the UK for a period of 10 years. Also, the funds of this loan should be used to modernize the bases of the Ukrainian Navy.

The proposal was allegedly made during a visit to Kiev by British Defense Secretary Robert Ben Lobban Wallace. If agreed, the agreement could be signed during the visit of Volodymyr Zelenskyy to the UK in October this year.

According to the bmpd blog, the information about the full funding of this project by the UK raises serious doubts due to the contradiction to traditional British practices in the field of military-technical cooperation.

Comments

[Split]

I wonder when the Navy 404 will order Yamato and Musashi?

[and.safonoff]

Looking for creditors

[figwam]

carried out through a loan of 1,25 billion pounds (1,6 billion dollars)

How will they give it away, by land?)

[Revolver]

Quote: figvam

How will they give it away, by land?)

Debt relief.

[stalki]

Debt relief.

No, it is not excluded, the small-shavens will write off themselves with pleasure, they will be returned from someone. The tradition is moreover, they will be returned so that later the borrower still has to stay.

[tandem]

not excluded

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: figvam

carried out through a loan of 1,25 billion pounds (1,6 billion dollars)

How will they give it away, by land?)

The land I, I suppose, has already sold out in quiet ... With the kidneys and corneas of the eyes of the giant ukraYna. Because the luxury of having two kidneys and two eyes for the Svido Ukrainians.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: figvam

carried out through a loan of 1,25 billion pounds (1,6 billion dollars)

How will they give it away, by land?)

Es ... we really want to voice it ...

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: figvam

carried out through a loan of 1,25 billion pounds (1,6 billion dollars)

How will they give it away, by land?)

Yes, even if they do not dig the earth to the center of the earth ... But every country has the right to have its own rockets and their carriers ... About the land around Krasnoyarsk, more and more abandoned land plots and arable lands are ... .... The fields are overgrown with weeds and hemp ...... An oversupply of cabbage and carrots, beets and cucumbers in the country ...

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

But in the Kemerovo region they plow and plow, introduce new hectares into circulation

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Kemerovo ...... So you are closer to the equator ........ You are warmer ..... Summer is longer .....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: and.safonoff

Looking for creditors

Well it is written

The project is to be financed through a loan of £ 1,25 billion ($ 1,6 billion), which will allegedly be provided by the UK for a period of 10 years.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I also noted this point for myself. If in equal parts, then it turns out very profitable.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I also noted this point for myself. If in equal parts, then it turns out very profitable.

They drank and drank, only sharpen a hacksaw.

[venik]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

If in equal parts, then it turns out very profitable.

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It depends on WHO (profitable) ...... If the oligarchs (bankers or officials) - then YES !! Profitable! And if the PEOPLE ...... Somehow it does not work out (benefit) .......

[venik]

Quote: and.safonoff

Looking for creditors

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They are looking for "sponsors" ...... But they will find it all the same - "creditors"!!!

[NF68]

Quote: and.safonoff

Looking for creditors

In this case, the word creditors and the word are synonymous. It will be very difficult to find.

[mvg]

when the Navy 404 orders Yamato and Musashi

As soon as brain implantation is invented, 300-400 grams. Do you understand who should be the first to apply for "get in line for the operation"?

[venik]

Quote: mvg

As soon as brain implantation is invented, 300-400 grams. Do you understand who should be the first to apply for "get in line for the operation"?

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Just 300 or 400 grams? No, we need a FULL transplant!
From a "bearded" anecdote:
The colonel is operated on brain (yes, yes! and it happens!) .....
They opened the cranium, took out the brain ... Then the adjutant breaks into the operating room: "Comrade Colonel! You have been assigned a major general" !!!
The patient jumps up from the operating table: "Cap! Quickly!" ....
Medics: A brain??
Patient (putting on his cap): "And now he already not needed!"

[mvg]

And now I don't need him!

So drastically impossible! First you need to build up the mouse ..., ugh, brain mass, to an acceptable level, and only then replace, in part, the blocks responsible for thinking, for repairing the European standard.
In short, it's simple, to teach a person to work with a brain, and not just eat into it. Well, there is plus or minus Dom2 or What, Where, When ..

[venik]

Quote: mvg

In short, it's simple, to teach a person to work with a brain, and not just eat into it.

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Are eating to the head (at least boxers and officials)!
But about "replacing blocks responsible for reasoning"..... With this I think there will be big problems! The main one is the problem Search data blocks ..... Too hard to find .....
Yes, and "build up" the brain mass of these individuals ..... This problem seems insoluble ... From the word "AT ALL"!

[Vol4ara]

"The Ukrainian Navy may receive British missile boats"

And British boats can receive a Russian missile

[Terenin]

Britain offered to build for A batch of missile boats.

Now, if Britain offered to build ships (all eight) on Ukraine, the economy is good.

[Dude]

Now, if Britain offered to build ships in Ukraine, it would be good for the economy.

Well, in fairness, the same scheme that we and France had with the Mistrals (only ships, hmm, smaller):

The first two boats are to be built in the UK, the remaining six - at Ukrainian shipyards

There are some doubts, however, the ability of the current ukrosudprom to build at least such boats ...

[KCA]

You wanted to write "ukrposudoproma"?

[Dude]

Quote: KCA

You wanted to write "ukrposudoproma"?

Well, judging by the displacement of these vessels, it is possible to get by with this industry

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Dude

There are some doubts, however, the ability of the current ukrosudprom to build at least such boats ...

Well, for 1, 2 lard pounds, i.e. 200 lemons per boat can be built, and even left for cutting.

[Dude]

... you can build 200 lemons per boat, and there will be more for cutting.

I'm afraid in this case you put the cart in front of the horse. Rather: "200 lemons each - you can cut it well, and it will remain for boats!"

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Dude

I'm afraid in this case you put the cart in front of the horse.

You are right, first saw the horse and then the cart (boat), if anything is left behind.

[Reviews]

Quote: tihonmarine

a horse, and a cart (boat), if anything is left behind.

"What other" horse "? What other" boat "? You didn’t have mulberries!"

[mvg]

1, 2 lard pounds, i.e. 200 lemons per boat

Your arithmetic is strange, maybe in some other system? 1,2 / 8 = 200 .. Plus infrastructure and R&D. And a loan for 1 years. The best shipbuilding school. Does anyone offer this to Russia? Or is it all sausage 22380/22385/22386/22160, or all at once and a lot?

[Avior]

In dollars 1.6.
Only this money also includes the construction of bases.

[boris epstein]

Good for Ukraine, but not for Britain. Only the benefit for Ukraine does not bother Britain. But a loan of 1,25 billion pounds and can be cut from both sides, and jobs in Britain will remain. And the current crisis is also worth gold.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

Now, if Britain offered to build ships (all eight) in Ukraine, then the economy would benefit

Well six is ​​not too bad either

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

Well six is ​​not too bad either

Not bad, but everything is on credit, and loans are returned with interest. Oh! how hard it is to repay a loan, I know from myself, and you all know.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

Not bad, but everything is on credit, and loans are returned with interest

So the striped ones also give them everything on credit

Oh! how hard it is to repay a loan, I know from myself, and you all know.

I know. Two hang on the neck

[NKT]

After a while they will ask / make you write off part of the debt, and reconstruct the rest. We have already gone on like this.

[venik]

Quote: Terenin

Now, if Britain offered to build ships (all eight) in Ukraine, then the economy would benefit.

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Aha! Uh-uh-uh-ace (!) - proud "brits" and dispersed! They will only put on slippers and (no less proud "ukram") will run to help!
Gennady, you WHEN last time a miracle have you seen?

[tandem]

and who will build? Indonesians? or did they leave their own?

[venik]

Quote: Terenin

from if Britain offered to build ships (all eight) in Ukraine, then the economy is good.

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British?
PS The British (economy) may benefit .... And the Ukrainian .... Everything is one - EVERYTHING IS BROKEN!

[Alien From]

Brits are great, they will build and earn on credit.

[Terenin]

but the wishes of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine were voiced. According to them, the boats should have a length of 50 meters, a displacement of 400 tons, a full speed of 35 to 50 knots. The main weapon is the Neptune anti-ship missiles of foreign or Ukrainian production. Each boat must carry eight anti-ship missiles.

Another wish forgotten , weld it with a double seam, and fix all the toilet bowls in the latrine with an anchor chain.

[Reviews]

Quote: Terenin

Another wish forgotten , weld it with a double seam, and fix all the toilet bowls in the latrine with an anchor chain.

Toilet bowl?! This is the solution for the pampered invaders. Brave racers simply have to return to their roots - to solutions proven by millennia of their history.

It won't be stolen anymore.

[Terenin]

Quote: Avis

Quote: Terenin

Another wish forgotten , weld it with a double seam, and fix all the toilet bowls in the latrine with an anchor chain.

Toilet bowl?! This is the solution for the pampered invaders. Brave racers simply have to return to their roots - to solutions proven by millennia of their history.

It won't be stolen anymore.

Are you depriving our border guards, special services ... of the incentive to chase them across the Black Sea !?

[Xnumx vis]

So this is where the saying came from that there is no better beauty than to defecate from a height!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Terenin

weld it with a double seam, and fix all the toilet bowls in the latrine with an anchor chain.

After the Azov conflict, ships without latrine are being built in Ukraine. And the toilet is a decoration.

[Terenin]

Quote: tihonmarine

in Ukraine they build ships without latrines

Well, kapets will come to all biodiversity, along the fairway of Ukrainian ships

[Rzzz]

So, in fact, all modern steamers are poured overboard. But perhaps - at a distance from the coast.

[Seaflame]

In fact, it passes through several cleaning circuits there, otherwise, according to modern requirements, they will not be allowed into any port)

[Rzzz]

Quote: Seaflame

In fact, it goes through several cleaning circuits there.

Uncleaned shields can be drained outside the 12-mile radius.
In the port, of course, no one drains. Goes to the tank.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Terenin

Another wish was forgotten, it is to weld with a double seam, and to fix all the toilet bowls in the latrines with an anchor chain.

but what about 10 stitches per cm? Like Chanel, well, finally kosher

[Terenin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Terenin

Another wish was forgotten, it is to weld with a double seam, and to fix all the toilet bowls in the latrines with an anchor chain.

but what about 10 stitches per cm? Like Chanel, well, finally kosher

Petya ... It is unlikely that Madame Coco convinced them that ... luxury is the opposite of vulgarity.

[Pete mitchell]

it seems to me that Madame Coco was never heard there as well as about many other things

[KVU-NSVD]

But they won't build anything. There is such an intuitive feeling.

[KVU-NSVD]

How much I understand the whole point is that they give money for new berths and, accordingly, "master" They will send a couple of boats of their own construction on credit, well, then they will think about how to give it back .. And the hypothetical hulls of Ukrainian construction? So it’s very far away, so think right now ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

And what about hypothetical Ukrainian-built buildings?

20% And the rest is due to the hillock.

[Doccor18]

At the end of the 19th century, Britain built cruisers for the Japanese only so that they would then sink Russian ships ... And now, Ukraine will build missile boats only for provocations in the Black Sea ..

[KCA]

Construction is not a purchase, approvals, financing, construction, equipping with "Neptune", training crews, training exits and shooting, it will take 5 years, and by that time, you see, the query "Ukraine" will be answered with error 404

[donavi49]

About error 404 - everyone has been writing for 6 years, this winter is the last, etc. But it doesn't. Maybe it's enough to fly in pink dreams?

Nobody will let Ukraine fall apart or go bankrupt with serious consequences. For a 180-degree coup in politics or further pushing the zone to the west is not needed by the US and the EU (at least the loudest part of it).

[KCA]

Much can change, here and the elections in the United States, and in a year the elections in Germany, what will the EU be able to oppose if Germany suddenly turns to face the east? Yes, and in the United States, you will have to somehow fix the mess, any new / old president, how this can turn out, who knows

[postum]

Germany is already facing both east and west, it was not for nothing that she created the 4th Reich in the person of the EU, and she gets everything she needs from the east, that resources, that the withdrawal of money from local districts, and actually direct money at the expense of their industry

[RUnnm]

Do not forget about another option - bankruptcy, beneficial to the West. In which they will lead to default and stop redirecting at once. And it is quite reasonable to demand their return - by land, enterprises, the deployment of bases, etc.

[mvg]

Nobody will let Ukraine fall apart or go bankrupt with serious consequences

Well, at least someone understands this. But everyone dreams of being a tr..t cheerleader in grade 11.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: donavi49

Maybe it's enough to fly in pink dreams?

I apologize wildly: who are you asking?
Whole west has long damned the day when I contacted 404s, well, except for amers - they continue to play everyone. Until they receive a candelabrum, they will not be smut

[Split]

The last batch was, emnip ... a machine-gun burst ... with shame and withdrawn ... means of needs

[RUnnm]

The British are simply handsome - and they want to load their shipyards (which I doubt that shipbuilding will be restored in Ukraine), and give them a boost for eternal service, and even hang a loan on the buyer's neck. Just business geniuses.

[Terenin]

Quote: RUnnm

The British are simply handsome - and they want to load their shipyards (which I doubt that shipbuilding will be restored in Ukraine), and give them a boost for eternal service, and even hang a loan on the buyer's neck. Just business geniuses.

No matter how it works in Ukraine, as in this anecdote

The businessman left his Merc on the street and tied a dog to him.
It turns out, but no Merc. He shouts at the dog, and the dog holds a note in its mouth, and it says:
- Do not shout at the dog, she barked!

[RUnnm]

Well, yes, these can. In addition to our court for 3 billion, they have Chinese claims for motor sich, and there are not enough ships with England for the collection)))

[Terenin]

Quote: RUnnm

Well, yes, these can.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

weld it with a double seam, and fix all the toilet bowls in the latrine with an anchor chain.

Brew

[Terenin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Terenin

weld it with a double seam, and fix all the toilet bowls in the latrine with an anchor chain.

Brew

Sergey, or let them put radio beacons

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Terenin

Sergey, or let them put radio beacons

What's the point?

[Reviews]

full speed from 35 to 50 knots

Wow, the spread ... +/- 40% is too big even for the stage of preliminary wishes.

[tihonmarine]

The project is to be financed through a loan of £ 1,25 billion ($ 1,6 billion), which will allegedly be provided by the UK for a period of 10 years.

Well, shaved fellows, they know how to skin a dead dog.

[Lesorub]

The first two boats are to be built in Great Britain, the remaining six - at Ukrainian shipyards.

Borrowing technologies in shipbuilding !? There is nothing of our own in Ukraine! (Under the Soviet Union, the Nikolaev shipbuilding plant produced ships like cakes)!

[GREG68]

As usual, with an outstretched hand. Well, what we fought for, we ran into it. But once it was the granary of the USSR, it had a powerful production and scientific potential, developed agriculture.

[TermNachTer]

When I read the amount of the prospective contract, I immediately understood - sheer nonsense. Nobody will give that kind of money to the banderlog, because they will steal it)))

[72jora72]

Nobody will give that kind of money to the banderlog, because they will steal it)))

Strange as it may seem, but they give it, and almost every year.

[TermNachTer]

They are given and immediately taken away))) and then you have to give something - either boats or money. But in any case, the Anglo-Saxons are at a loss, do you believe that?

[Sergey Sfiedu]

So this is a related loan. Nobody in Ukraine will get it in their hands, but at his expense will be financed British enterprises engaged in the execution of the order. True, the British themselves have tight finances to finance a deliberately insolvent country.

[TermNachTer]

So otozh. And if we consider that the credited country has a solvency of "0", then I hesitate to ask: "At whose expense is the banquet?"

[cat Rusich]

Britain with Ukraine they will sign a document in which it will be written that Ukraine has borrowed 1,2 billion pounds, and for this "the fairy tale is over ... "- on" securities "Ukraine will receive pounds, they will be transferred to "some accounts" and that's it ... Who signed the documents will receive a certain%, the money will remain in Britain , and Ukraine's DEBT ... One more line of expenses will be added to the budget of Ukraine for next year ... The debt will be repaid by Ukraine, and not by the one who signed the document ... What boats-ships will be built? - it doesn't matter, the main thing is to sign the loan documents.

[TermNachTer]

So otozh. Specific people take money, but the whole country gives it.

[Avior]

For the Greeks, the British made a modern version of this boat.
8 anti-ship missiles, SAM Sy Ram, 76 mm gun, 2 * 30 mm
, Electronics kit.

[Nikita, f]

Missile boats for the price of corvettes zrada zradnaya

[Nestor]

The construction of six boats in Ukraine, and even with the transfer of technology, is good!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nestor

The construction of six boats in Ukraine, and even with the transfer of technology, is good!

Well, this is when all the glorious descendants of Bandera and Shukhevych will die!

[Nestor]

Medvedchuk too?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nestor

Medvedchuk too?

and he, that Svidomo patriot ukraYny soapy. He is Ukrainian!

[Nestor]

If you correspond to the spirit of your previous post, then he is a direct descendant of Bandera and Shukhevych's associates

[Xnumx vis]

Your waltzman. Zelensky, the capitalist and other champions of the world of Rothschildsoros are true Ukrainians, the descendants of Shukhevych and Bandera ... True, Shukhevych would cook soap from them and rip off the skin on the lampshades.

[Nestor]

There is no point in diving with you. Are you a tanker?

[Xnumx vis]

No, not a tanker. Lover to endure the brains of the descendants of Svidomo Bandera and Shukhevych.

[Nestor]

The brain must be endured skillfully, and not stupidly pronounce slogans and cliches. This is not even trolling, it looks like a worn-out record

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nestor

and not stupidly pronounce slogans and clichés.

These are not slogans. but the absolute truth. The real truth. And of course you cannot like her, a descendant of Bandera and Shukhevych .. Or maybe you consider yourself a descendant of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War? Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, Oleg Koshevoy, heroes of the defense of Sevastopol.

[Nestor]

I consider myself a descendant of the grandfather of a major of the NKVD, who graduated from WW2 in the Far East, we are a Ukrainian who has positively accepted "independence", who would have spat in your direction after the Crimea

[Xnumx vis]

Esbushniks they are, from where the wind blows, they lick their backside ... Tangerines will not grow on an aspen. My grandfathers and uncles are ordinary soldiers of the Second World War. The guys died near Kursk and in Belarus. One grandfather went through the entire war in the marines on the Black Sea. Took Budapest. The second took out children along the road of life from besieged Leningrad. I took Koenigberg. Before the war, he was an enemy of the people, denounced by the NKVD. Father was the destroyer commander. I took part in the return of Sevastopol and Crimea. What I'm proud of. We are different, like water and stone. We will not be friends.

[Nestor]

I did not know my second grandfather, according to my grandmother, he left in July 41, he volunteered (although he had a reservation) and was killed near Kiev
As if we are different, and we will not even be comrades, except perhaps neighbors

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nestor

we won't even be comrades, except perhaps neighbors

Neighborhood wars are the worst.

[Nestor]

That's just it, that the most terrible

[Xnumx vis]

So you need to be friends. This is to save your family and friends.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Nestor

and even with the transfer of technology is good

What other mysterious technologies can they "transmit"?

[TermNachTer]

Do you believe it? They will assemble the case, everything else will come ready-made - all that remains is to install. No technology transfer. I subscribe to the following kamrad. It will be good when the last bearer of cannibalistic ideologies disappears

[Lara Croft]

from the Ukrainian resource

Apparently, we can talk about boats of the Sea Ranger project with Sea Spear missiles (sea version of the Brimstone missile) from BAE Systems. Moreover, at first glance, these boats are even a better option for the Sea of ​​Azov than even the American Mark VI with AGM-176 Griffin missiles (the question of the supply of which, by the way, also rests on the consent of our military department).

https://patrioty.org.ua/politic/vmesto-moskytnoho-flota-chto-za-raketne-katera-predlozhyla-ukrayne-stroyt-brytanyia--zhyrokhov-342465.html

[Eug]

Ukraine has projects of RK Lan and Vespa, the first with similar parameters, the second 200 tons more with the addition of air defense systems. There is a plant in Kiev, which belonged to Poroshenko (apparently sold), which built ships 1124P. So you can do it yourself. But the helicopters were bought by the French - with a seemingly opportunity to make in Ukraine ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Eug

So you can do it yourself.

And where will they get the missiles from?

[Eug]

The Ukrainian CR Neptune is being tested, while in the "ship-to-ship" option, the "air-to-ship" option has been announced (the Su-24M has been selected as the carrier).

[petrol cutter]

It's long and boring. Britain is gaining much faster, plus its workers will be in business, receive salaries, well, it rushed further on all counts.

[Nestor]

In Nikolaev there are projects of a small corvette "Karakal", a missile boat "Rearl Fac", everything depends on the lave

[Nestor]

British offer missile boats Super Vita (Roussen)

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nestor

British offer missile boats Super Vita (Roussen)

barter on the kidneys and corneas of the hulks of Ukraine with soap, which is very plausible. For free only vinegar .. To the descendants of Nestor Makhno and Petliura.

[Nestor]

I understand: -autumn, aggravation. Get well!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nestor

I understand: -autumn, aggravation. Get well!

Thanks for work . But we still have summer in full swing. Today it was 35 degrees of heat. And my health is all right. Yes, about the kidneys and corneas, I in vain gave the idea to your pyryzydents and other wickedness. I'm afraid they can use it.

[petrol cutter]

You see how interesting it becomes? And you say drink tea, drink tea! ...
There are some toilet bowls ...
Here's your grandmother and St. George's Day ...

[APASUS]

The project is to be financed through a loan of £ 1,25 billion ($ 1,6 billion), which will allegedly be provided by the UK for a period of 10 years.

I wonder at what rate? Or it might turn out that it was easier to make boats out of gold

[Felix m]

Only Ocean can build in Nikolaev. And then, very much a big question. Recently I visited the Black Sea, Nibulon is shipping grain, the road to the pier is ideal, fountains and buildings for servants, cranes and loaders are loading barges. The production buildings are overgrown with trees and bushes, they are dead, it is sad to see all this.

[APASUS]

Quote: Feliks m

Only Ocean can build in Nikolaev.

Can it? There are constant arrests, seizures, and the people slowly fled

[Oleg Olkha]

Never and nowhere are such loans fully repaid, and the British do not plan to get rich on them in 10 years of repayment - inflation will eat up interest. For the manufacturer, it is much more important to own the employment of the shipyards, the supply of finished ships, components and weapons for export, exempt from taxes. For the UK Crown, such a loan is worked off by "impeccable military service" both in their own and in the long-term interests of Her Majesty and can receive further ...

[Kostya Lavinyukov]

Mmmm ... Project 1241 side view.

[sledak]

Not enough for the Brits of their island - they decided to get hold of a mortgage piece of land.

[tolmachiev51]

- "The first two boats should be built in Great Britain, the other six - at the shipbuilding enterprises of Ukraine" - the last is in vain !!! steal money like Yatsenyuk allocated for the fence. Although, there are also many who want to "warm" their pens for free.

[Ethiopian]

Apparently Nikolaevsky shipbuilding full kirdyk. .... Shame

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
"The Ukrainian Navy may be armed with British missile boats" - "The times of the Ochakovskys and the conquest of the Crimea" -
-Be Cream p_dkoruvati ...
***

[Pavel57]

Are these boats under the ASC Neptune?

[Gloomy skeptic]

Everything will be as usual - they will collect trash 30-40 years old, but not yet drowned from decay, from garbage dumps, paint it in bright colors and sell it as "newest" developments to the diggers of the black seas. Isn't the Saxons a confirmation of this ???