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Rogozin called the timing of the start of modernization of the floating cosmodrome Sea Launch

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Rogozin called the timing of the start of modernization of the floating cosmodrome Sea Launch

The modernization of the Sea Launch floating cosmodrome may begin in two months, said Dmitry Rogozin, head of the Roscosmos state corporation.


According to Rogozin, Roskosmos expects to begin modernizing Sea Launch two months after all legal and organizational issues have been resolved.

Then, I think, a couple of months to resolve all organizational and legal issues and start modernizing the complex

- said the head of Roscosmos, adding that the standard Soyuz-5 launch vehicle will be used for launches from Sea Launch.

I think that we will use the standard Soyuz-5 rocket, because when these legs and the launch pad supports are reinforced, they will withstand the entire volume of the Soyuz-5 rocket with a full refueling

- he said.

Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov announced that the Sea Launch floating cosmodrome will be restored at the Army-2020 forum. According to him, the floating spaceport is a unique structure and it would be foolish not to use it, letting it go for scrap. Borisov said that the restoration of the cosmodrome could cost 35 billion rubles.

The Sea Launch floating spaceport consists of the Odyssey floating launch platform and the command vessel. In total, 36 launches were made from the sea launch site, of which 33 were successful. In 2014, the last rocket was launched, as Russia stopped supplying missile components to Ukraine, including the RD-171 rocket engines.

At present, Sea Launch is located in the Russian Far East, the project has been frozen "until better times."
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 12 September 2020 12: 12 New
    17
    Rogozin talks a lot about the deadlines for various projects, but says little about the fact that certain projects were completed on time ...
    1. tourist
      tourist 12 September 2020 12: 24 New
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      Rogozin talks a lot about the deadlines for various projects, but says little about the fact that certain projects were completed on time ...

      Yes Rogozin is a talking head, for whipping (it will begin now) .. There others plow and do not like to talk. hi
      The same "stooltkin was")))) He played his role well and then gave everything to Shoigu. hi
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 12 September 2020 12: 43 New
        +9
        What is your role to steal if not in yourself? Just do not need tales that he prepared a mega army for Shoigu.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 12 September 2020 15: 09 New
        13
        Quote: turist
        Yes Rogozin is a talking head, for whipping (it will begin now) .. There others plow and do not like to talk. hi
        The same "stooltkin was")))) He played his role well and then gave everything to Shoigu.

        Again the "cunning plan" of the GDP?
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 September 2020 20: 55 New
          12
          Rogozin named terms

          It even sounds tragicomic. As if his "gases escaped" once again. As usual, in public, loudly and "with liquid". Unsurprisingly, the effect is the same.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 September 2020 12: 24 New
      +9
      Rogozin called the timing of the start of modernization of the floating cosmodrome Sea Launch
      Quote: parusnik
      but says little about the fact that certain projects were completed on time ...

      We have heard a lot about the beginning of the term, the end of the term and work is not visible.
      Although ... it's time to think about the beginning of the term for himself, the leader, it is mediocre stop the outlook for the development of the Russian space industry.
      1. Wolverine
        Wolverine 12 September 2020 13: 52 New
        +2
        Right now, someone sleeper, or whatever it is, will tell you how everything is great in Russian cosmonautics
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 12 September 2020 14: 49 New
          -1
          Quote: Wolverine
          Right now, someone sleeper, or whatever it is, will tell you how everything is great in Russian cosmonautics

          His messages are usually informative.
        2. slipped
          slipped 12 September 2020 17: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: Wolverine
          Right now, someone sleeper, or whatever it is, will tell you how everything is great in Russian cosmonautics


          Can you object to something? I am listening really carefully. laughing
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 12 September 2020 12: 34 New
      +4
      Modernization of the Sea Launch floating cosmodrome may begin in two months

      Well, everything is clear here - just so that by the new year a normal "bonus" on the cut to have)))
    4. slipped
      slipped 12 September 2020 17: 49 New
      -3
      Quote: parusnik
      Rogozin talks a lot about the deadlines for various projects, but says little about the fact that certain projects were completed on time ...


      For example? which projects were not completed on time? Give specifics, or blah-blah-blah again?
      1. bayard
        bayard 12 September 2020 23: 37 New
        +2
        Is the new Sarmat ICBM ready?
        On time ?
        How many tests have been carried out?
        Is the Vostochny cosmodrome completed?

        Launch sites for Soyuz-5 are planned at Baikonur, Plesetsk, Vostochny, and now from the Sea Launch. Aren't there too many spaceports for such a "successful" and "productive" space power?
        Sea Launch is of course a pity, but will we have so many launches to justify such expenses, because it will require both coastal infrastructure and considerable maintenance costs.
        How many launches are planned per year?
        Four ?
        Three ?
        Is it worth it for the sake of this?
        After all, everything for the start will have to be carried already in Primorye. From the Moscow region and Siberia. Yes, with such logistics, there can be no question of any commercial benefit. And for other things, there are plenty of existing spaceports.
        1. slipped
          slipped 13 September 2020 01: 21 New
          -3
          Quote: bayard
          Is the new Sarmat ICBM ready?


          Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Yuri Borisov: "The flight tests of the missile will take place within the timeframes determined by the general designer of the Sarmat ICBM and the Ministry of Defense."

          Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Alexei Krivoruchko: "deliveries to the Strategic Missile Forces will begin in 2021".

          Dmitry Rogozin, General Director of the state corporation Roscosmos: “I personally control, I am engaged in details of the work that we are now doing to create a new strategic intercontinental missile system Sarmat. And when it is put into service, it will, I hope, soon consider one of the tasks in your life completed. "

          Quote: bayard
          Is the Vostochny cosmodrome completed?


          The Vostochny cosmodrome will be under construction until at least 2030. Now, ahead of schedule, the construction of the second stage of the cosmodrome is underway (commissioning in 2023) and the secondary infrastructure facilities of the first are being completed, which the disbanded Spetsstroymontazh did not manage to complete (delivery by the middle of next year). Five launches of carrier rockets were carried out from the cosmodrome. This year the customer, in the person of Arianespace, delayed the delivery of its spacecraft and the next launch from the Vostochny cosmodrome is scheduled for the end of this year.

          Quote: bayard
          Launch sites for Soyuz-5 are planned at Baikonur, Plesetsk, Vostochny, and now from the Sea Launch. Aren't there too many spaceports for such a "successful" and "productive" space power?


          Are you pitifully trying to challenge the status of a space power in Russia? lol Well, well.

          As for the rest, Soyuz-5 is planned to be launched within the framework of the Baiterek project jointly with Kazakhstan from the 45th site of Baikonur, for this this site has been removed from the lease of Russia and transferred to Kazakhstan. Starting next year, Kazakhstan will modernize the site so that the first rocket can be launched from there in 2023.

          The creation of the Soyuz-5 launch complex at Vostochny is planned as part of the third stage of construction.

          Sea Start is a private company. And Filyov personally decides which rocket he will acquire for his cosmodrome.

          Quote: bayard
          After all, everything for the start will have to be carried as much as in Primorye. From the Moscow region and Siberia.


          The delivery of the elements of the Angara rocket launch pad to the cosmodrome along the Northern Sea Route took only a month.
          1. bayard
            bayard 13 September 2020 13: 20 New
            -1
            Quote: slipped
            Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Alexei Krivoruchko: "deliveries to the Strategic Missile Forces will begin in 2021".

            Delivery already?
            But what about the tests?
            Has there been at least one practical start to date?
            I'm not even talking about successful.
            A product of this level of complexity implies a sufficiently long test cycle to check and correct all defects, defects, identify all the features of operation and combat use.
            In Russia (and the RSFSR), combat missiles of this class have never been produced, especially the Makeev Design Bureau (only naval missiles with a starting weight of about 40 tons). How long did the Yuzhnoye design bureau take the P-36? How many trials, accidents, refinements, cures for diseases were there? Are you quoting an official who reports that in a year a missile of this level of complexity will ALREADY be put into service? belay
            Without a single practical launch at the moment? no
            Even if we take into account that the "Sarmat" is just a new modification of the "Voevoda", this does not give any reason to hope for successful tests the first time. Moreover, it is created / recreated by a completely different design bureau, at completely different capacities and by other people.
            The entire series of test runs must be carried out, otherwise the product cannot be accepted!
            And any engineer knows this.
            Even non-core, because the laws of physics are the same for everyone.
            Quote: slipped
            Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin: "I personally control

            So concentrate your control and attention on the most priority areas, bring to mind what was entrusted, and do not grab onto any project that can bring a new budget for development.
            Does Sea Launch have an owner?
            There is !
            And this owner is an individual / group of individuals.
            So WHAT IS THE LESS for Roscosmos to get involved in this adventure?
            Are there few cosmodromes in Russia?
            Eastern completed?
            Not !
            Quote: slipped
            Cosmodrome "Vostochny" under construction will be at least until 2030

            So why ... without handing over one of the most complicated and expensive object, grab the Sea Launch adventure?
            And demand 35 billion for this?
            Maybe it's better to invest them in the East?
            To speed up construction?
            With such an economic situation, with the collapsing / cutting budgets, recession in the economy, world coronavirus with quarantines and other nonsense, impoverishment of the population and bankruptcy of many businesses, Rogozin spread his fingers on everything that he sees ... While all the resources and efforts you need to gather in a fist and complete at least the highest priority projects.
            Bring it to the end!
            Before the delivery of objects, products and programs of the state commission.
            And only then take on something new.
            Not to build skyscrapers for your beloved for fun, but to finish the Sarmat program, not to grab onto Sea Launch, but to complete the Vostochny one, not to inflate PR about lunar ravings, but to ensure the deployment of a satellite constellation.
            WORK!
            And do not eat in three throats.
            Quote: slipped
            Are you pitifully trying to challenge the status of a space power in Russia? Oh well.

            I remember another Space Power, in which I participated in providing spacecraft landings - up to 100 - 120 per year!
            And I have never been ashamed of TU Power.
            And all launches of that Power were provided by two cosmodromes - Baikonur and Plesetsk.
            And you know, COVERED.
            By launching an order of magnitude more satellites and interplanetary stations.
            And they did without troubadour and self-promotion.
            1. slipped
              slipped 14 September 2020 00: 03 New
              0
              Quote: bayard
              Delivery already? But what about the tests? Has there been at least one practical start to date?


              Why do you need it? Well, this year anti-satellite weapons were tested - do you know something about that? lol

              Quote: bayard
              In Russia (and the RSFSR), combat missiles of this class have never been produced


              Yah. laughing Do not worry, they will.

              Quote: bayard
              And this owner is an individual / group of individuals.
              So WHAT IS THE LESS for Roscosmos to get involved in this adventure?
              Are there few cosmodromes in Russia?


              Have you collapsed from oak? laughing The owner wants to buy a rocket, a finished product, so to speak. He wants - he will receive. And many, many times.

              Quote: bayard
              So what ... without handing over one of the most complicated and expensive object


              Space launches are already being carried out from the "expensive and complex" object. Its delivery does not affect this.

              Quote: bayard
              Maybe it's better to invest them in the East?
              To speed up construction?


              What are you going to speed up there? laughing Pouring concrete? The cosmodrome is being built to create rockets for it. Both will be ready at the same time.

              the rest is verbal delirium
              1. bayard
                bayard 14 September 2020 10: 17 New
                0
                Quote: slipped
                Quote: bayard
                Delivery already? But what about the tests? Has there been at least one practical start to date?


                Why do you need it?

                Otherwise, there is no faith in such statements.
                Tests of such a technique by practical launches could not go unnoticed, they were always officially notified to the "partners" and announced in the press - this is a common practice. And without such launches, talking about the readiness of the complex is empty PR. I am not gloating about it; on the contrary, I am worried about delays. But I consider the statements of the above-named officials unreliable and ordinary self-promotion.
                Quote: slipped
                Do not worry, they will.

                Maybe they will. yes Or maybe not . request The road is a spoon for dinner. I understand too well all the complexities of this project and all the problems associated with it. And delays in testing with practical launches indicate serious problems with the program.
                And God forbid that they really did.
                Quote: slipped
                Have you collapsed from an oak tree? The owner wants to buy a rocket, a finished product, so to speak. He wants - he will receive. And many, many times.

                You shouldn't be clowning. He wants - let him buy, with Yuzhmash he did not ask, but what does Rogozin's statements about 35 billion rubles have to do with it? to upgrade private equipment? Rogozin wants to include Roskosmos among the shareholders of Sea Launch? Then I will repeat the question - aren't there too many spaceports and launch sites for a rocket that does not yet exist? Isn't this dispersal of funds in the context of the Roscosmos budget cuts and the general economic recession?
                Quote: slipped
                the rest is verbal delirium

                And you have solid PR. PRAISE achieved and delivered on time.
                And finish the ravings with lunar bases, space elevators and other ravings. Cope with the assignment.
                1. slipped
                  slipped 14 September 2020 16: 25 New
                  -1
                  Quote: bayard
                  Otherwise, there is no faith in such statements.


                  Nobody is obliged to report to you. laughing

                  Quote: bayard
                  And delays in testing with practical launches indicate serious problems with the program.


                  Forgot to add IMHO. lol

                  Quote: bayard
                  You shouldn't be clowning. He wants - let him buy, with Yuzhmash he did not work,


                  Sure. Moreover, it was immediately clear that this was fiction.

                  Quote: bayard
                  but what does Rogozin's statements about 35 billion rubles have to do with it? to upgrade private equipment?


                  First, Borisov, not Rogozin, said that 35 billion would be required https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4466379 Read carefully. Secondly, it is not said where this money will come from.

                  Quote: bayard
                  And you have solid PR. PRAISE achieved and delivered on time.


                  This is what happens - exclusively achieved and fulfilled. And now they are preparing for new launches of small spacecraft of the cubeSat class for various purposes already mass-produced at the Russian enterprise.



                  Quote: bayard
                  And end the ravings with moon bases, space elevators


                  In the next branch there is a photo from the production of a space nuclear tug, they make it just cargo to the Moon. A kind of "space elevator" laughing
  2. Charik
    Charik 12 September 2020 12: 20 New
    +1
    When exercises Caucasus2020-where is the news about them
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 September 2020 12: 21 New
    0
    Therefore, Roskosmos bought this Sea Launch from S7 ... I haven't seen any mention of this anywhere. And the amount should not have been small. winked
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 12 September 2020 12: 51 New
      +1
      This is a scam. "Sea Launch" and nafig is not really needed by anyone since there are no missiles for it and it is very expensive to operate, besides, as its operation has shown, it is extremely dependent on weather conditions and the state of the sea. In general, - another "suitcase without a handle" "successfully" slipped "for very expensive" Russia ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 12 September 2020 15: 12 New
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        Quote: Snail N9
        This is a scam. "Sea Launch" and nafig is not really needed by anyone since there are no missiles for it and it is very expensive to operate, besides, as its operation has shown, it is extremely dependent on weather conditions and the state of the sea. In general, - another "suitcase without a handle" "successfully" slipped "for very expensive" Russia ...

        Nationalization of losses and privatization of profits. Capitalism, however.
      2. vVvAD
        vVvAD 12 September 2020 17: 49 New
        +2
        Everything is true, but this is the only cosmodrome for Russia that can be deployed in the equator. And the launch vehicles will be, and the cheapest way - available.
        And the cost of operation must be compared with the cost of that of flight tables for missiles of a similar class, taking into account the cost of withdrawing, for example, to LEO, a kilogram of cargo with the launch intensity possible taking into account weather capabilities.
        Everything is not so simple, otherwise no one scratched b. Cruiser "Ukraine" - do you need explanations?
  4. Engineer
    Engineer 12 September 2020 12: 21 New
    +5
    Then, I think, a couple of months to resolve all organizational and legal issues and start modernizing the complex

    THEN there are no project roadmaps with clear dates?
    I think we will use the standard Soyuz-5 rocket
    "
    That is, the technical part has not been approved / created yet? Otherwise, it would have simply been "made a decision ..." This is two months before the expected start of work.
  5. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 12 September 2020 12: 22 New
    +1
    Excellent operation on MRR start. Looking forward to rebranding S 7. bully
  6. Masha
    Masha 12 September 2020 12: 23 New
    +2
    the project is frozen "until better times".

    Can you rejoice? Better times will come in two months ????
  7. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 12 September 2020 12: 46 New
    -5
    Order! The Far East of Russia becomes its Space Launch!
  8. iouris
    iouris 12 September 2020 12: 48 New
    +2
    Why Rogozin does this is understandable. Why is this unmodernized state?
  9. Old partisan
    Old partisan 12 September 2020 12: 48 New
    +7
    More and more often I come to the conclusion that the Moscow principality needs to be separated from Russia and surrounded by an eight-meter fence without the possibility of the local people leaving the fence.
    Otherwise, the prince and the boyars will sell all of Russia, Siberia and the Far East at a low price for green papers.
    Either the Ministry of Transport makes nonsense, then the Ministry of Internal Affairs offers to impose tax on drivers, then the tax authorities offer new levies. Here Roskosmos offers 35 lards to cut.
    And the country is deeper and deeper into shit .. mo.
  10. Free wind
    Free wind 12 September 2020 12: 48 New
    +6
    Well, how do you like Elon Musk, so take it. If only they did not drown, it is necessary to pull out somewhere on the sand, in shallow water. Is it that we will have as many as four spaceports, if Kap Yar is not counted. where are there so many?
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 12 September 2020 12: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: Free Wind
      Well, how do you like Elon Musk, so take it.

      Musk began to build his platform for a sea launch, so Rogozin fussed.
  11. dgonni
    dgonni 12 September 2020 12: 53 New
    +7
    Will the bish reconstruct a platform for a rocket that is not yet available and whose reliability is unknown? The sea launch was originally created for a tested and completed rocket. At the same time, starting in okiyans was necessary to increase the output load. Why re-equipment is needed now, acroming the cut of money is not clear
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 12 September 2020 15: 57 New
      +3
      The main feature is the launch of American satellites from the territory of the United States (that is, there is no need to coordinate, customs) on cheap Russian rockets. We cross out this feature.

      Improving cast performance and orbits is now less relevant in this segment. That is, pulling up which thread Electron another 60-70 kg is not bad. To tighten up which Soyuz5 - 600-800 kg, well, this is not so decisive. Now satellites are getting lighter and lighter. If you just look at the launch map, then every second rocket is underload,

      Re-equipment is necessary, since the proven and reliable rocket remained in the Dnieper. And S7 even listed denyuzhki for the first batch according to a clever scheme. The result - the money was accepted, but they are not going to build missiles, sanctions and all this.
      1. slipped
        slipped 12 September 2020 17: 33 New
        -3
        The middle Soyuz-5 from the equator can do what the heavy Proton-M did recently from Baikonur - launch two two-ton communication satellites in the GSO with one launch. No "proven and reliable rocket remaining in the Dnieper" can do that.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 12 September 2020 17: 48 New
          +4
          A proton costs 60 million. Union - it is not clear yet, but from 70 to 60. And with MC - we throw in another 10 million.
          1. slipped
            slipped 12 September 2020 17: 51 New
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            A proton costs 60 million. Union - it is not clear yet, but from 70 to 60. And with MC - we throw in another 10 million.


            Soyuz-5 is a medium rocket. It cannot cost from 70 to 60. Average rockets cost about 30, if with an upper stage it is about 40. Zenith with MS cost 60 - because then there was such a trend and there were many owners.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 13 September 2020 07: 49 New
              0
              Roscosmos named the cost of launching Soyuz-5

              Startup cost the new rocket "Soyuz-5" in "Roskosmos" was estimated at 60 million dollars. This is stated in the video, an excerpt from which the head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin posted on Twitter, the full version of the video is on youtube.

              5 minutes
              1. slipped
                slipped 13 September 2020 23: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: donavi49
                This is stated in the video.


                I wrote above - this is how much the services for launching the Zenit rocket cost. Everything is changing. laughing The services for launching the Angara-A5 rocket are now much cheaper than they were previously offered. Soyuz 5 will be at market price when its commercial launches begin.
  12. Reviews
    Reviews 12 September 2020 12: 59 New
    +4
    said the head of the state corporation "Roscosmos" Dmitry Rogozin

    Everything, the issue is resolved. Never.
  13. bald
    bald 12 September 2020 13: 03 New
    -7
    This, specifically for a donut, 5 years ago, there was such a conversation.
    I and cosmologists repeat, from a political point of view, floating means independent. No need to think about equeriblistics and entry into space, there are other laws, because of the states, we will simply be destroyed
    1. bald
      bald 13 September 2020 10: 29 New
      -1
      These are precisely those who are opponents of Russia, they just need to be destroyed, even if these creatures are rude to stir up trouble, you just need to start killing them, don't you hesitate?
  14. Wolverine
    Wolverine 12 September 2020 13: 45 New
    -1
    Damn, these two cans took all the berthing meters of the Slavyansk Shipyard. Looks like it is very bad with orders, since they allowed these two troughs to moor for an indefinite period
  15. Alex 2020
    Alex 2020 12 September 2020 13: 57 New
    0
    Well, shall we believe the trampoline? I wonder how many times and how much the terms of modernization and commissioning will be shifted. Unfortunately, in recent years this has become the norm.
  16. wow
    wow 12 September 2020 14: 20 New
    0
    And who will steal the money allocated for the commissioning of this cosmodrome, cut off his hands and hang them along the sides for decoration.
  17. BABAY22
    BABAY22 12 September 2020 14: 33 New
    +8
    because when strengthening these legs, the support of the launch pad, they will withstand the entire volume of the Soyuz-5 rocket with a full refueling

    You can withstand weight, you can weight. Well, this is not competently the gentleman responsible for the Cosmos. You are not a grandmother on the heap.
    Hire a preess attache, let him (she) speak. Because the words of Mr. Rogozin no longer cause anything except the Hand-Face reaction.
  18. evgen1221
    evgen1221 12 September 2020 15: 34 New
    +2
    When? -Yes, as in the song, I'll marry you, never yes yes yes. The country will not be able to cope with the Eastern one, and this is a bunch of dormitioners in the leadership.
    1. Dude
      Dude 12 September 2020 18: 12 New
      -1
      Quote: evgen1221
      When? -Yes, as in the song, I'll marry you, never yes yes yes. The country will not be able to cope with the Eastern one, and this is a bunch of dormitioners in the leadership.

      Parasites in the leadership, it seems to me, the state costs a hundred times more than all the cosmodromes put together sad
  19. venik
    venik 12 September 2020 15: 35 New
    0
    "...said the head of the state corporation "Roscosmos" Dmitry Rogozin. .... "
    Lord! Again - Rogozin! But when will all these "effective managers" in the "toilet get wet" begin ??? Or are we waiting until they destroy everything that is left?
  20. Dikson
    Dikson 12 September 2020 15: 56 New
    0
    What, on Vostochny, there is already nothing to cut and steal, - there supervision has been established, so a new scam must be put into operation?
  21. Turist1996
    Turist1996 12 September 2020 18: 47 New
    +1
    Something I didn't understand - Sea Launch bought out S7. What does Rogozin and Roscosmos have to do with it ?! Or is it HSP - it buys an S7 type, but in fact everything goes to Roscosmos? Or am I missing something?