A competition has been announced in Russia for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum "Without Lenin"

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A competition has been announced in Russia for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum "Without Lenin"

A competition will be held in Russia for the best concept for the further use of the Lenin Mausoleum on Red Square. The competition was announced by the Union of Architects of Russia, according to Online organization.

The goal of the competition in the Union of Architects was called "the creation of a bank of ideas for the re-use of the mausoleum." Contestants are invited to transform the mausoleum into a branch of the Museum of Russian Architecture.



There is no political order for holding a competition for the concepts of re-use of the Lenin Mausoleum. The competition is a special project of the Zodchestvo festival and is designed to collect the maximum number of architectural ideas, no matter how ambiguous they may be

- said in a statement.

Participants of the competition are invited to develop a draft design for using the building of the mausoleum as a museum stories design and construction of all three versions of the mausoleum - plywood, wood and granite, as well as think over a route connecting the Museum of Russian Architecture and the mausoleum.

Applications for participation can be submitted until October 19, not only certified architects, artists, etc., but also ordinary citizens of Russia and the CIS countries are allowed to participate in the competition. Summing up the results of the competition is scheduled for November 13, the best works will be shown at the Zodchestvo festival from November 11 to 13.

The opinion is expressed online that the competition for the Mausoleum "without Lenin" is a provocation.
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    1. +9
      12 September 2020 10: 41
      The best winner, no one does anything. It's a lie.
      1. +88
        12 September 2020 10: 44
        I agree. Leave the Mausoleum alone, Herods. Hands off!
        1. -55
          12 September 2020 10: 46
          In my opinion, Lenin should be reburied at the Kremlin wall or next to relatives, and the Mausoleum should be left as a monument to the era. It's not about some kind of political considerations, but I just personally don't like it when the deceased is on public view and the people, like an attraction, go to look at him. This is not good. First of all, it is not good for the living that they do this. So Lenin is finally buried in a human way, and you can continue to take excursions to the Mausoleum. I am against any display of the remains, including the relics of saints, and even more the worship of them. Even though he had been in Moscow for a long time, he had never been able to go to the Mausoleum.
          1. -39
            12 September 2020 10: 53
            Aristarkh Ludwigovich. Well, they walk in different ways. Someone as an attraction, someone, mostly old people, as a monument to a great era, when our country was respected - for space, and for victory, and for ballet and much more. Wait until the old people die, not long left.
            1. +14
              12 September 2020 11: 52
              "There is no political order for holding a competition for the concepts of re-use of the Lenin Mausoleum. The competition is a special project of the Zodchestvo festival and is designed to collect the maximum number of architectural ideas, no matter how ambiguous they may be."
              - said in a statement.

              Arrest and imprison the PROVOCATORS inside Russia itself, so that they don't even start discord inside the Russian Federation!
              The FSB and the prosecution authorities of the Russian Federation get down to business!
              Russia does not need the Second Tikhanovskys inside our country - and in the HEART of Russia itself!
              1. +53
                12 September 2020 12: 16
                Quote: Tatiana
                Arrest and imprison the PROVOCATORS inside Russia itself, so that they don't even start discord inside the Russian Federation!
                The FSB and the prosecution authorities of the Russian Federation get down to business!


                How will they arrest and jail Putin, who every May 9 bashfully nags the mausoleum with plywood? Are you out of your mind?
                1. -25
                  12 September 2020 12: 24
                  Quote: pereselenec

                  How will they arrest and jail Putin, who every May 9 bashfully nags the mausoleum with plywood? Are you out of your mind?

                  Do not compare Putin with the false Dmitry - with the Tikhanovskaya militia in Belarus - and with the "Soros" in the current Union of Architects of Russia!

                  Do not chat up the state problem in an anarchist way!
                  1. -20
                    12 September 2020 12: 49
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Do not chat up the state problem in an anarchist way!
                    Do not pay attention to the minuses, by the evening ours will catch up, fix the affairs of the sorobots. wink
                    1. +9
                      12 September 2020 12: 57
                      Quote: businessv
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Do not chat up the state problem in an anarchist way!
                      Do not pay attention to the minuses, by the evening ours will catch up, fix the affairs of the sorobots. wink

                      So ... in your words ... I am "sorobot" ?! belay recourse
                      And here I am writing for the money of Russia's enemies ?! Paaaproshu mind you - FREE !!! writing bully
                      Where can I go, what would I be paid for my posts here ?! wassat
                      1. -10
                        12 September 2020 13: 08
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        So ... in your words ... I am "sorobot" ?!
                        And here I am writing for the money of Russia's enemies ?! Paaaproshu mind you - FREE !!! writing
                        Where can I go, what would I be paid for my posts here ?!

                        Weeds are not looked after - they grow on their own without irrigation and fertilizers!
                        Such is their Sorosin "breed" - everything useful grows across and stifles everything else and useful at its root for domination and freedom!
                        1. +2
                          14 September 2020 10: 52
                          how much does ep pay you?
                      2. +1
                        12 September 2020 14: 48
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        So ... in your words ... I am "sorobot" ?!
                        And here I am writing for the money of Russia's enemies ?! Paaaproshu mind you - FREE !!! writing
                        And where is it written that you are a sorobot, except for you? laughing I wrote exclusively to Tatiana! Although, if you are also Tatiana .... love And then, I did not write about posts, as you can see, I answer to them! I wrote about the cons. There is a minus, there should be a post, as I understand it, and I do it myself in most cases. hi
                        1. -1
                          14 September 2020 09: 48
                          Quote: businessv
                          Do not pay attention to the minuses, by the evening ours will catch up, fix the affairs of the sorobots.

                          You wrote:

                          Do not pay attention to the minuses, by the evening ours will catch up, fix the sorosobots. wink


                          1. I gave Tatyana a minus for the post - I admit it !!! hi
                          2. But I gave Tatiana a minus for the post only and exclusively because I am a patriot of Russia !!! soldier
                        2. 0
                          15 September 2020 19: 19
                          Quote: Corona without virus
                          But I gave Tatyana a minus for the post only and exclusively because I am a patriot of Russia !!!

                          So Tatiana wrote about the "sorosites", worrying about the disadvantages, but I called them sorosobots in order to calm a person. This did not apply to you personally! smile If offended, forgive generously! hi
                        3. -1
                          15 September 2020 20: 26
                          Quote: businessv
                          Quote: Corona without virus
                          But I gave Tatyana a minus for the post only and exclusively because I am a patriot of Russia !!!

                          So Tatiana wrote about the "sorosites", worrying about the disadvantages, but I called them sorosobots in order to calm a person. This did not apply to you personally! smile If offended, forgive generously! hi

                          Forgive !!! drinks hi
                  2. +38
                    12 September 2020 12: 52
                    So who is nailing the plywood, Tihanovskaya ?!
                    1. -19
                      12 September 2020 14: 47
                      Quote: Revival
                      So who is nailing the plywood, Tihanovskaya ?!

                      Tikhanovskaya has already surrendered R.Belarus to the Poles and Litvin - not yet starting to rule!
                      Tikhaovskaya is a false Dmitry of the 21st century!
                      And Putin, although he drapes at the military parades the Lenin Mausoleum, has not yet surrendered the country to the enemies of Russia in the West in contrast to Gorbachev and Yeltsin!
                      And at the same time you troll Putin not as a diplomat-statesman, but as a thoughtless Russian anarchist-extremist or, conversely, a foreign anti-Russian provocateur.
                      1. +8
                        12 September 2020 18: 04
                        Am I trolling?
                        Everything is clear with you, thank you
                      2. +1
                        12 September 2020 18: 15
                        That is, you think that Lithuania and Poland want to join Belarus to themselves?
                        1. 0
                          14 September 2020 02: 08
                          Undoubtedly, there are endless potato fields, swamps and also the economy, into which 8-10 billion must be poured annually. laughing laughing
                    2. -6
                      12 September 2020 15: 25
                      Quote: Revival
                      So who is nailing the plywood, Tihanovskaya ?!
                      It was said
                      Quote: pereselenecl
                      Putin .., who every May 9 bashfully nails up the mausoleum with plywood
                      So I imagined: on May 9, he walks bashfully along Red Square, with a hammer in his hands, nails in his pocket and dragging a sheet of plywood behind him ...
                      1. +6
                        12 September 2020 16: 21
                        Rather, the described action should take place on the night of the 9th. In the morning already the formation of troops, Parade. Palevo in general wassat
                  3. +1
                    14 September 2020 01: 58
                    Wow you, madam, carries! laughing
                2. +3
                  12 September 2020 23: 03
                  Quote: pereselenec
                  which every May 9, bashfully nailing up the mausoleum with plywood?
                  Everything is on self-tapping screws, so that you can then disassemble and assemble. And no nails!
                  1. +11
                    14 September 2020 01: 10
                    Quote: Azis
                    Everything is on self-tapping screws,

                    It's not about nails or screws. The point is in the "drapery" of the Mausoleum. Those who close the Mausoleum are simply afraid of Lenin. Yes
              2. +14
                12 September 2020 13: 04
                Madam, don't go crazy, it's not 37 years now, yet ...
                1. -22
                  12 September 2020 13: 20
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Madam, don't go crazy, it's not 37 years now, yet ...

                  Well, then hand over the country to the mice, "sorosets", you are our false patriotic!
                  Let's see how and who will allow you!
                  1. +18
                    12 September 2020 13: 24
                    Madam, are you at least aware of the delirium that you carry? Take a sedative and re-read yourself, this is a clinic, no offense, be it said.
                    1. -14
                      12 September 2020 13: 30
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Madam, are you at least aware of the delirium that you carry? Take a sedative and re-read yourself, this is a clinic, no offense, be it said.

                      I understand very well what an uneducated person like you I am dealing with. This is a historical and political "clinic" in your brain, unless you are, of course, a foreign bot!
                      In your opinion, if the year is not 1937, then there is no need to defend the country from enemies ?!
                      Do you need to destabilize the situation in the Russian Federation? Is this what you strive for? Did Russia lose few territories after the collapse of the USSR? What else do you need?
                      1. +29
                        12 September 2020 14: 53
                        Lord ... "educated person", yes you live as you want in your little world, only our country, unfortunately, has long since passed, and you still cannot understand this. Putin is the savior of Russia - that's for sure, you can go crazy.
                        1. +13
                          12 September 2020 16: 23
                          We handed it over - making it a raw material and financial donor to all the surrounding countries? recourse
                        2. -14
                          12 September 2020 16: 54
                          Quote: Tochilka
                          We handed it over - making it a raw material and financial donor to all the surrounding countries? recourse

                          Well, it was not Putin who personally surrendered the country to the West, but Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Putin accepted from them and from their hands such a country - such Russia!
                        3. +19
                          12 September 2020 18: 07
                          Well then, according to your logic, all the rules, right?
                          I can imagine that the doctor accepted a patient with an illness, then, why didn't he cure it, it wasn't because of me that he got sick, why should I treat him, I took him sick ...
                        4. -5
                          13 September 2020 09: 18
                          Quote: Revival
                          Well then, according to your logic, all the rules, right?
                          I can imagine that the doctor accepted a patient with an illness, then, why didn't he cure it, it wasn't because of me that he got sick, why should I treat him, I took him sick ...

                          No, not ok!
                          What country are you from? From Russia, Belarus, Ukraine? What do you have about Russia and the world in the sense of being informed, some complete communist suck and nothing new? You are not well versed in Marxism; you don’t understand the dialectical-materialist method and don’t know how to use it in the new historical conditions with your revolutionary false starts (Wrong beginning).
                          How are you going to get out of this situation historically? Do you want to fall into the country in general to turn into anarchy, so that the enemies take us with their bare hands? Where is your golden mean?
                          Do you have an ideology for which the working masses and the armed forces would follow you? Do you have a program for rebuilding the country that is different from Khodorkovsky and Navalgiy? You have none of this.
                          Then why are you nihilistically whining and simply muddying the minds of the people with anarchism?
                          You are Tikhanovskaya-2! For everything good against everything bad! With such good intentions the road to hell stretches. Dostoevsky such as you called demons.

                          Deputy Fedorov: Russia LIVES UNDER AMERICAN LAWS • Dec 14. 2017 year
                        5. +7
                          13 September 2020 11: 12
                          That's it!
                          Eureka!
                          Seeing this (in the picture of the video), I understood everything ... well, I didn’t accidentally click on the play, otherwise I wouldn’t wash myself out of the abomination).
                          this is a diagnosis and its own little world ...
                          Sorry to bother you, I didn't know ...
                        6. -3
                          13 September 2020 12: 09
                          Exactly! This is your own little world.
                          If you do not know how to analyze all the points of view of various analysts and separate the grain from the chaff, then do not take it, otherwise you will just ruin everything - and it will be in Russia, as in Ukraine!

                          What are you in this case against Evgeny Fedorov? What do you think is wrong with him?
                          You yourself should have his political literacy and experience!

                          Agent Gorbachev Evgeny Fyodorov Apr 4. 2013 Gorbachev is an ordinary American agent and hero of America.


                          Rostislav Ischenko: Ukraine is ruled by tens of thousands of militants. • Jan 7. 2017
                        7. +3
                          13 September 2020 12: 50
                          I can analyze analysts, but not any abomination, nonsense and snitch
                        8. -2
                          13 September 2020 13: 00
                          And who do you think is the "snitch"? And the informer on whom exactly? And for what reason? And in what cases?
                          You still haven't answered my question, why don't you like Evgeny Fedorov?
                          Quote: Revival
                          Seeing this (in the picture of the video), I understood everything ... well, I didn’t accidentally click on the play, otherwise I wouldn’t wash myself out of the abomination).

                          What do you understand Evgeny Fedorov says wrong?
                          In my understanding and in my expert-political outlook, he speaks in this case more than absolutely politically competent.

                          And from which country did you not answer me either? I suspect you are not from Russia.
                        9. +4
                          13 September 2020 14: 03
                          Watch his interview against the background of Platoshkin's arrest, there is no need to think it over, he himself does not hesitate to confess, then he fights, a disgrace in general ...
                          And the nonsense that he carries ...
                          So there is simply no bottom
                        10. -5
                          13 September 2020 14: 17
                          Thank! I will definitely look. But if it doesn't bother you, then maybe you can throw me a link - always with the TITLE of the video itself. Otherwise, I do not track Evgeny Fedorov in all cases and for various reasons. And also Platoshkina too. Platoshkin also did not have everything in his theoretical views methodologically favorable, so I lost interest in him over time.
                          The fact is that not a single political movement in Russia, and in the world as well, has corrected the theoretical mistakes of the classics in the theory of minerals. And there are some very serious mistakes. Stalin was the closest to correcting these mistakes of theirs at one time.
                        11. AUL
                          +6
                          13 September 2020 02: 14
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          Well, it was not Putin who personally surrendered the country to the West, but Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Putin accepted from them and from their hands such a country - such Russia!

                          Can't do anything for 20 years?
                        12. +11
                          14 September 2020 01: 10
                          Quote from AUL
                          Can't do anything for 20 years?

                          20 years is too short, they do not have time ... Moreover, the Soviet legacy has not yet been fully "mastered" bully
                        13. +9
                          14 September 2020 20: 53
                          Quote: solzh
                          the Soviet legacy has not yet been fully "mastered"

                          And when the Soviet legacy ends, they will start new reforms laughing
                        14. +9
                          14 September 2020 20: 53
                          Quote from AUL
                          Can't do anything for 20 years?

                          How is that nothing? And new branches of gas pipelines. wink
                        15. +3
                          14 September 2020 10: 51
                          Dear Tatyana.
                          Why nod at those who have not taken part in anything for 20-30 years?
                          Let's remember the USSR after the Second World War.
                          For 10 years, the country has risen from ruins.
                          So there was a war and cities under "0" were erased from the face of the earth.
                          More than 20 million people died.
                          And then a giant leap was made.
                          I will not say anything about atomic weapons and about space.
                          And what has been done in our country in 20 years.
                          Ate-ate gathered the country in a heap.
                          But for what?

                          Putin has cleared the "field of activity" for those with whom his "appointment" was agreed - with the bankers of Western countries.

                          "... The cleanup of the banking sector, which began after Elvira Nabiullina took office in 2013, contributed to the reduction in the number of bank employees. According to the Deposit Insurance Agency, from 2014 to the first half of 2016, 179 banking organizations were liquidated, of which 31 banks lost the right to work in the first half of 2016. In 2014-2015, 28 liquidation procedures were completed, 32 organizations were reorganized (two banks - in the first half of 2016). In 2,5 years, about 120 thousand were dismissed from large and medium-sized banks. people or about 15% of bank employees. By October 5, 2016, there were 600 banking organizations in Russia, by March 29, 2018 - less than 500, by February 1, 2020 - 396 ... "
                          ".. As of July 1, 2007, about 21,3% of the total authorized capital of Russian credit institutions belongs to foreigners ..."
                          Do you know how much today? 80%!
                          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8

                          By the time VVP came to power, about 10000 mini refineries were operating in the Russian Federation.
                          For 10 years, the number of refineries has decreased to 1000.
                          Optimization only led to that. that the quality of petroleum products has not improved, but prices have increased several times.

                          So what got better?

                          Industrial enterprises, which are of interest to the Western banking sector, as objects that give dizzying profits, after some manipulations, end up in the ownership of the same bankers.
                          70% of RF industry is owned by Western financiers.

                          An enterprise such as the Krasnoyarsk Aluminum Plant is 98% owned by Americans.

                          For this, are you ready to wash your feet VVP and drink this water?
                        16. 0
                          14 September 2020 12: 59
                          And what do you suggest? Start a revolution with the system? How? With the help of Navalny, Khodorkovsky and the "Soros" to finish the country in the final turmoil? Let me remind you that Zyuganov won the election against Yeltsin in 1996! And why did he then give up power, giving in to Yeltsin? I, as an expert, know the leadership of the Communist Party well - they are still renegades! Not completely, of course, they slipped into apostasy, but very significantly. Their mild passivity to the intrigues of the Russian Orthodox Church in the merging of religious confessions with the state is worth something!
                          As for the mausoleum.
                          It is categorically impossible to remove Lenin from the mausoleum, especially now.
                          Lenin in the mausoleum is an ideological fetish, like a flag, of the Soviet regime and the socialist system. Naturally, therefore, the mausoleum with Lenin is a beam in the eye of the believers and the oligarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church and the leaders of the current bourgeois state in the Russian Federation. In Russia, the bourgeoisie is divided into two wings: national and globalist-Yeltsin.
                          So far Putin is not so much a globalist, but rather a national bourgeoisie in the Russian Federation. This is the lesser of two evils.
                          Under PUTIN, the RF Armed Forces began to recover, defeated under Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
                          As for the Russian Union of Architects, it has long turned into a foreign NGO under the Russian Federation. The idea of ​​supposedly preserving the mausoleum itself while taking out Lenin's body is aimed at simply speeding up the removal of Lenin from the mausoleum. Why are architects suddenly so concerned about this? But because it is connected with the pro-Western opposition demonstration events in R, Belarus and is directed against the reunification of Belarus with Russia. Namely.
                          Lukashenko preserved in Belarus the people's property, state enterprises and social guarantees for the working people - the features of the Soviet socialist state. And if Lenin is taken out of the mausoleum, then the pro-Russian-Soviet Belarusians will be signaled not to reunite with Russia. This is a provocation of the West against our countries - aimed at breaking the Republic of Belarus with Russia.
                        17. -1
                          14 September 2020 13: 15
                          Quote: demo
                          Why nod at those who have not taken part in anything for 20-30 years?

                          In case of refusal to take Lenin's body out of the mausoleum, I also fully agree with the communists and with the true patriots of the Russian Federation. Namely.
                          Previously XNUMXYuganov, commenting on the initiative of the Union of Architects, stated that the announced competition contradicts the amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the continuity and continuity of history, and indicated that the authors of such proposals, in fact, "set fire to the inside of the country."
                          Member of the Federation Council Alexei Kondratyev called the initiative of the Union of Architects by "ideological sabotage". Noting that not a communist, the senator stated that an attempt to present the Mausoleum as an architectural monument crosses out its significance as a historical monument and a whole layer of ideology.
                          "The belittling of the Mausoleum's significance, I believe, is a deliberate attempt to devalue a whole period of our history, which against the background of changes in our Constitution is an ideological sabotage," Kondratyev is quoted as saying.
                          See like - Zyuganov was reminded of Lenin's will -
                          https://www.vesti.ru/article/2457224?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com%2F%3Ffrom%3Dspecial&utm_source=YandexZenSpecial
                        18. +2
                          14 September 2020 13: 31
                          Quote: Tatiana
                          then the pro-Russian-Soviet Belarusians this will be a signal not to reunite with Russia.

                          + + + good here it is the language of symbols ...
                        19. -3
                          12 September 2020 19: 20
                          "Have passed - making it a raw material and financial donor to all surrounding countries?" Well, of course - only the USSR was a donor of all of the above and not only for 120 countries of the world for 30 years giving all this for free coconut barter and loyalty - at least Russia receives money for all of the above.
                        20. +12
                          12 September 2020 20: 04
                          Palm oil and shish technology!
                        21. -6
                          13 September 2020 11: 28
                          We buy equipment for any "taste" and "color", and we develop our technologies and our own in all directions. Palm oil is imported to Russia. The state does not buy it.
                        22. +11
                          14 September 2020 01: 11
                          Quote: Vadim237
                          We buy equipment

                          It is more profitable to establish your own production than to buy from foreigners. In fact, when we buy equipment from abroad, we sponsor them, not ourselves.
                        23. +9
                          14 September 2020 20: 53
                          Quote: solzh
                          It is more profitable to set up production

                          The country is profitable, but the oligarchs are not. This is a very high cost of setting up production. They are used to selling quickly and making a profit.
                      2. +18
                        12 September 2020 16: 01
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        then it is not necessary to defend the country from enemies ?!
                        Do you need to destabilize the situation in the Russian Federation? Is this what you strive for? Did Russia lose few territories after the collapse of the USSR? What else do you need?

                        In my opinion, all reasonable people already understand that the main enemies of our country are inside the country, and they are feeding all sorts of inadequate pseudo-patriots who are screaming about some mythical soros. You'd better fight with garbage on the side of the road and mow the hogweed, if you so want the benefits for your homeland.
                        The situation in the Russian Federation is already destabilized. Only the most ardent consumers are careful not to notice this. And thanks to your efforts, we will soon begin to lose territory.
                        1. -11
                          12 September 2020 16: 34
                          Quote: rzzz
                          In my opinion, all reasonable people already understand that the main enemies of our country are inside the country, and they are feeding all sorts of inadequate pseudo-patriots who are screaming about some mythical soros.
                          And what do you personally propose to do to prevent and correct this in the country?
                          Do you propose to take the side of Navalny - and namaydan across the country, as in Ukraine in 2014?
                          Or do you propose to make a pro-Western STATE REVOLUTION in the Russian Federation, like the pollinated and olivine oppositionists in the Republic of Belarus?
                          On what shisha and under whose leadership will you make your GOSPEREVOROT in Russia? Under the leadership of Navalny or with the money of Khodorkovsky, behind which are the special services of Zapal - Soros and NATO?

                          "Politics is the art of the possible!" - as the pragmatist Bismak said.
                        2. +7
                          12 September 2020 18: 11
                          That is, if any actions for the benefit of the country are possible, then only under the leadership of Soros, Bulk, etc.?
                          And in general, what does the "Maidan" have to do with it, we are all against the Maidans.

                          And so you propose to stand still and have nothing to do? And then whatever happened, well, it's clear ...
                        3. 0
                          13 September 2020 01: 45
                          Quote: Revival
                          And so you propose to stand still and have nothing to do? And then whatever happened, well, it's clear ...

                          standing still is better than doing something without knowing why ... Playing, for example, on the desire to return to Socialism, you can get a civil war in which it is not a fact that his fans will win. The ideology of consumerism, you know ... it's like a virus in the public mind. Suggest a method of struggle
                        4. +4
                          13 September 2020 03: 18
                          I don’t think you can do something without knowing (at least for yourself) why.
                          And yes, standing still, there is degradation and defeat.
                          This option does not work ..
                        5. +2
                          13 September 2020 07: 11
                          Quote: Revival
                          And yes, standing still, there is degradation and defeat.

                          + Non progredy est regredy - Latin good I hope no translation is needed? I really want to believe that we have not regress, but a stop on the way, necessary to reflect on the situation. Our entire policy is tied to pipes, the next stream is presented as a victory, and life shows that neither the East nor the West needs us. It is obvious that a change in such a policy will only end with a change in policy smile But before that, it is necessary to choose landmarks and candidates.
                        6. +1
                          14 September 2020 21: 23
                          Listen, why do you dislike Navalny so much, why can't you eat? Explain the reason for your hatred, maybe I, too, will penetrate and I will hate.
                        7. 0
                          15 September 2020 00: 08
                          Quote: rzzz
                          why do you not like Navalny so much ...?

                          Navalny is the agents of Western special services, whose task is to destabilize the political situation in the Russian Federation, GOSPEREVOROT with the coming to power in the Russian Federation of an absolutely pro-Western obedient colonial administration. Navalny himself is a morally unscrupulous bug with a long-standing dual citizenship (of the Russian Federation and Lithuania)!
                          I will not talk about him, Better watch these videos about Navalny.

                          Belarusian protest militants | The real environment of Navalny and not only | Karnaukhov's Labyrinth 14.09.2020/11/XNUMX See from XNUMX min.


                          Navalny and "Navalnism" | The situation in Belarus | Whom does Pashinyan not love? | SMERSH | # 13 • Live: 28 Aug. 2020
                        8. +1
                          15 September 2020 20: 46
                          Listen, the enemies in our country are not the mythical "agents of the Western special services." This agency, if it exists, then freely walks around the country and no one fights with it. The real enemies are our fellow citizens, and we, unfortunately, almost lost the war with them. War for people and their brains. And people like you are direct evidence of this failure. The percentage of patrioidiots will increase a little more - and we will definitely turn into a banana colony.
                          I would advise reading the works of the classics of science fiction, looking for analogies. But I'm afraid this is not your level of literature.
                        9. +8
                          14 September 2020 20: 55
                          Quote: rzzz
                          the main enemies of our country are inside the country

                          Russia has many enemies both inside the country and abroad. So it turns out that the people of Russia are opposed to everyone, but our people have no allies.
                2. 0
                  12 September 2020 14: 55
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Madam, don't go crazy, it's not 37 years now, not yet ..
                  Konstantin, be a man, and therefore, be more correct with women, we have few of them here, so they must be protected, and not insulted! Women live by emotions, men by reason, so you must understand and explain this, in case of their excesses, and not attack. hi
                  1. +8
                    12 September 2020 16: 51
                    Quote: businessv
                    be a man, and therefore, be more correct with women, we have few of them here, so they must be protected,

                    "Tatiana" is not a woman. According to the style of the text, he is a man of age slightly above average, about 50-55 years old. I communicate with a couple of these periodically. One-to-one texts.
                    1. 0
                      13 September 2020 09: 33
                      Quote: rzzz
                      Quote: businessv
                      be a man, and therefore, be more correct with women, we have few of them here, so they must be protected,

                      "Tatiana" is not a woman. According to the style of the text, he is a man of age slightly above average, about 50-55 years old. I communicate with a couple of these periodically. One-to-one texts.

                      Well, you found something to justify yourself !!!
                      You are not a man, but just a boor.
                      Correctly Vadim made a remark to you. Thanks to him!
            2. +20
              12 September 2020 16: 37
              Wait until the old people die, not long left.
              Do not wait .....
              1. +8
                14 September 2020 20: 55
                Quote: 72jora72
                Do not wait .....

                good It is correct. They must live long for evil. May God grant everyone health.
            3. +5
              12 September 2020 22: 20
              Aristarchus pretends that he is not in the know, that the inscription will be interrupted and used for its intended purpose. there is a mausoleum for the first traitor in the former Sverdlovsk, and in Moscow it will be for himself, for himself ...
          2. +32
            12 September 2020 10: 55
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            and the people, like an attraction, go to look at it.

            There are some. But most do so because of the recognition of his role in history.
            1. 0
              12 September 2020 11: 27
              Quote: WIKI
              Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
              and the people, like an attraction, go to look at it.

              There are some. But most do so because of the recognition of his role in history.

              ===
              so his role and personality are not denied even by enemies. another thing is that the body / remains should be buried after all. the mausoleum itself is a monument to Lenin and the era.
              1. +38
                12 September 2020 12: 03
                it's another matter that the body / remains should still be buried

                What can you say about the Peter and Paul Fortress and the church "relics"? Is it time too? Or is "justice" now "selective", excuse me, "zeroed"? The ignorant who spit on their History are doomed to extermination and extinction. As a species.
                1. -30
                  12 September 2020 12: 12
                  You dear, do not confuse "God's gift" with a tram handle. They also compared the relics of the saints and the body ...
                  1. +29
                    12 September 2020 12: 15
                    Science and education is a great gift. And not obscurantism. Your "body" is in no way out of place. You swim shallowly in order to judge such things, dear man.
                    1. -16
                      12 September 2020 12: 33
                      Well then, explain in what way science and education is connected with the storage of this body for everyone to see? It is necessary to bury, but even better to cremate this is my personal opinion. And don't forget to deliver the minus.
                      1. +8
                        13 September 2020 02: 05
                        Quote: Sergey 23
                        Well then, explain in what way science and education is connected with the storage of this body for everyone to see?

                        LENIN is a symbol of a certain type of government, which, by the way, has shown itself very well for a certain period of time. The idea of ​​universal equality and brotherhood was offered to the world, not a Democracy conducted from abroad. Unfortunately, the gerontocrats failed to manage the country, they did not turn to Science and the Enlightenment to develop the theory of a socialist state, as a result, the Dark Forces won. Lenin's body makes you think about the question - "Who are we?" The church, which canonized Nicholas 2, proposes to bury and forget the founder of the state where the principle of the builder of communism, which grows out of 10 commandments, is taken as the moral basis of education? wassat
                        1. +9
                          14 September 2020 20: 56
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          state structure, which, by the way, showed itself very well

                          It's so good that we still live on his legacy.
                    2. -32
                      12 September 2020 12: 35
                      Quote: lexus
                      Your "body" is in no way out of place.

                      So he did not say a word about HIS body .... Trolls or what?
                      You swim shallowly in order to judge such things, dear man.

                      And who determines this, are you? And how do you know that he is a young man?
                      And in the article, the author clearly wrote in Russian:
                      not only certified architects, artists, etc., but also ordinary citizens of Russia and the CIS countries are allowed to participate in the competition

                      I think nothing needs to be changed, let Vova lie in the mausoleum ..... he suffers ... I would also put Stalin, "marked", BNE and living Chubais there, let schoolchildren and students tell the story of Soviet Russia, the USSR and the early Russian Federation study ....
                      1. +22
                        12 September 2020 16: 43
                        .I would still go there Stalin, "tagged", BNE and living Chubais
                        I think that Vissarionovich will not agree to be with these nonentities ...
                        1. -6
                          12 September 2020 16: 53
                          Quote: 72jora72
                          .I would still go there Stalin, "tagged", BNE and living Chubais
                          I think that Vissarionovich will not agree to be with these nonentities ...

                          I think no one would agree ... one is worth the other ...
                        2. +10
                          12 September 2020 17: 50
                          Vissarionovich will not agree to be with these nonentities ...

                          What will stand up and directly declare ... as a result of which the "rats" will have a pestilence.
                  2. +6
                    12 September 2020 12: 53
                    Where do you see the difference?
                    1. +7
                      13 September 2020 02: 17
                      Quote: Revival
                      Where do you see the difference?

                      Lenin's body and power - symbolize different things. More than one generation knew the words "Lenin lived, Lenin lived, Lenin will live" The idea of ​​a socialist state structure was perceived as completely normal. There is such a principle in sociology: if you want to impose something on society, change something familiar to something unusual, move the deep level of public consciousness from the fulcrum, and create. By the way, the Church also acts on the same principle. lol the difference is that some symbols make one live for the sake of Faith in heaven and the Church, and others for the happiness of descendants.
                      1. +9
                        14 September 2020 20: 57
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        for the happiness of descendants

                        In Soviet times, they lived and worked for the sake of their descendants. Now, alas, for the sake of consumption ...
                  3. +21
                    12 September 2020 14: 23
                    and who and for what reason appointed them "saints"? Aren't you colleagues of those who are now churning out churches three times a day across the country? Are not those who compare atheists with animals? not those who have faces in the monitor do not intermeddle from the "righteous life"? Aren't those who call for money-grubbing and other things, while everything is in gold and in luxury cars?
                  4. +15
                    12 September 2020 15: 13
                    Quote: Sergey 23
                    They also compared the relics of the saints and the body ...

                    And the relics are not the same remains as the body? Lenin is also a saint for someone.
                2. -8
                  12 September 2020 12: 50
                  Quote: lexus
                  it's another matter that the body / remains should still be buried

                  What can you say about the Peter and Paul Fortress and the church "relics"? Is it time too? Or is "justice" now "selective", excuse me, "zeroed"? The ignorant who spit on their History are doomed to extermination and extinction. As a species.

                  ===
                  and what Lenin's church canonized, or a new religious trend was formed - Leninism?
                  1. -12
                    12 September 2020 13: 01
                    Quote: Victorio
                    Quote: lexus
                    it's another matter that the body / remains should still be buried

                    What can you say about the Peter and Paul Fortress and the church "relics"? Is it time too? Or is "justice" now "selective", excuse me, "zeroed"? The ignorant who spit on their History are doomed to extermination and extinction. As a species.

                    ===
                    and what Lenin's church canonized, or a new religious trend was formed - Leninism?

                    those who will put cons to you now are its adherents ...
                    1. +5
                      12 September 2020 13: 39
                      Quote: Lara Croft
                      those who will put the cons to you now are it adepts...

                      ===
                      officially this is a teaching, for now. and extremes are everywhere.
                  2. +19
                    12 September 2020 16: 11
                    church canonized

                    I also have a "fake authority". The canonization of Lenin by the Russian Orthodox Church OJSC would look like the crowning of an honest policeman by swindlers. Rage further. While.
                    1. +12
                      12 September 2020 19: 29
                      The ROC is similar in structure to a closed joint-stock company. Something like Chubais's Oskolkovo. There is no particular benefit, subsidies are fat from the state and the chiefs are mired in luxury and swagger. And if you remember that in the 90s they were allowed to trade in alcohol and cigarettes without paying taxes, then in general "oil painting". Pure oligarchs with crosses on their belly. And V.I. Lenin strongly does not allow them to live in peace, by their presence.
                      1. +15
                        12 September 2020 20: 05
                        The ROC is similar in structure to a closed joint-stock company

                        hi Made an inaccuracy. Thanks for the fix. And for the apt comment! good
                    2. +7
                      13 September 2020 02: 25
                      Quote: lexus
                      OJSC "ROC"

                      really act like competitors. But they resemble the Communist Party at sunset. There are many churches, but no deep Faith. If the Church had another goal besides its own prosperity, for example, the prosperity of the country, then Lenin and Stalin would be canonized. wassat
                  3. +18
                    12 September 2020 16: 12
                    Quote: Victorio
                    a new religious movement has formed - Leninism

                    And why is Lenin worse? Let him be worshiped. At least the ideas in his philosophy are more robust than in many religions. And anyway - more modern. And less distorted by numerous rewrites.
                    1. +8
                      14 September 2020 20: 57
                      Quote: rzzz
                      the ideas in his philosophy are more robust than in many religions. And anyway - more modern.

                      good Wonderful words!
                  4. +17
                    12 September 2020 16: 25
                    Surprisingly, the Rag-Tsar was canonized. I even saw an icon !!! wassat
                    1. -5
                      12 September 2020 19: 25
                      And that - in fact, most of the population does not care about him or about Lenin.
                    2. +8
                      14 September 2020 20: 59
                      Quote: Tochilka
                      Surprisingly, the Rag-Tsar was canonized.

                      His canonization was a purely political step for the sake of unification with the foreign church of the White emigre traitors.
                  5. +3
                    13 September 2020 03: 25
                    And where does the church canonize or not, in this matter it is generally not essential.
                3. -29
                  12 September 2020 15: 14
                  Quote: lexus
                  What about the Peter and Paul Fortress and the church "relics"?

                  The worship of holy relics is a sacrament and a need for the spiritual life of a believer.

                  People turn to the holy relics with the most intimate aspirations, pray for their most important, most spiritual and vital, most dear, most important, pray for their loved ones, and so on - and they know that before the holy relics, where is the special power of Divine grace, their prayers come true.

                  They need this for their SPIRITUAL life.

                  And what kind of ... "spiritual" life is near ... the exhibit on display, which people come to gaze at allwho is not too lazy?

                  And yes, it is no longer possible to bury it: this is a scientific object, on which hundreds of long-term scientific experiments have been carried out, for which it must be preserved. Just for the Peter the Great Museum of Anthropology and Ethnography of the Russian Academy of Sciences

                  And yes 90% is already artificial object - there have long been no eyes, no brain, no organs, no fluids, nothing, biomaterials have been replaced with artificial ones .... What to talk about?
                  1. +17
                    12 September 2020 16: 16
                    "Your cow" would be silent - she, except for "undigested food", can give nothing else. This is, to say the least, unethical and ... like a pig.
                    1. -21
                      12 September 2020 16: 31
                      Quote: lexus
                      "Your cow" and be silent - she, in addition to "undigested food", nothing else can give out.

                      Aha, I understood: in your head you only ... eat.

                      Like there: "The blow was struck with a blunt hard object, possibly a HEAD" " Yes .
                      1. +9
                        12 September 2020 17: 19
                        Yeah, got it

                        This is definitely not about you. Everything is upside down and "for sale". Nature has rested.
                  2. +4
                    13 September 2020 02: 33
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    People turn to holy relics with deepest aspirations

                    what innermost aspirations can a modern person have? - health, money, good luck to yourself and your loved ones! Lenin is a symbol of self-sacrifice for the happiness of all working people! at least that's how it was interpreted. What's wrong with that than it is worse than the holy relics? Or maybe this is a variant of the natural development of the ideas of Orthodoxy, rejected by the enemies of Russia?
                    1. -12
                      13 September 2020 08: 47
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      what innermost aspirations can a modern person have? - health, money, good luck to yourself and your loved ones!

                      man is NOT an animal (devour, pst0, find out finally.

                      He has and spiritual a life. which makes him, in fact, human.
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      Lenin is a symbol sacrifices for the happiness of all workers!

                      What kind of "sacrifice"? belay He ate sweetly all his life, slept softly in Switzerland and France, NEVER worked sitting on the neck of his mother or the state
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      What's wrong with that than it is worse than the holy relics?

                      People go to the relics to fulfill the needs of their SPIRITUAL LIFE.

                      Glaring at the 90% artificial, pumped up with fluids, what are you trying to achieve?
                      WHY do many go there, if not to stare at the curiosity? As in any museum, for example, wax figures?
                      1. +4
                        13 September 2020 11: 19
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        He also has a spiritual life.

                        spiritual life is a theater, or contemplation of the Milky Way, which side of the church is there? Fear of death? believe and will you live forever? so this is faith, what does power have to do with it? powers apparently give some kind of confidence that there will be happiness in physical life smile

                        Quote: Olgovich
                        What kind of "sacrifice"? He ate sweetly all his life, slept softly in Switzerland and France, NEVER worked sitting on the neck of his mother or the state

                        look at the volume of what has been written, for the sake of interest read the article "Imperialism and
                        empirio-criticism "try to replace digital calculations on economics with modern indicators and you have a ready-made most relevant article on the situation in the world today, there was no Internet then and there were libraries in switzerland.
                        Sacrifice is understood as the rejection of the personal in favor of the public, as a necessary element of socialist ideology. And social. ideology is, by the way, a modified Orthodoxy, the result of its development.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        fulfillment of the needs of your SPIRITUAL LIFE.
                        - this we already passed two years ago. I never received a list of these needs, or a description of them. You need to grow up and be more specific
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Glaring at the 90% artificial, pumped up with fluids, what are you trying to achieve?
                        WHY do many go there, if not to stare at the curiosity? As in any museum, for example, wax figures?
                        why touch the relics ?? do you think I will ask ??? not! when Lenin was placed in the Mausoleum, all over the country people were being prepared for a new life, for the fact that property would be public, it was necessary to do something that would change the supports in public consciousness, Lenin's presence in the Mausoleum is a symbol of the idea that the Idea of ​​Socialism is alive, and the future belongs to him!
                        A Russian without socialism is the same American. By the way, we are still considered communists.
                        1. +6
                          13 September 2020 12: 18
                          The usual substitution of concepts, when the spiritual is replaced by the religious. Religiousness and spirituality are two different things.
                        2. -10
                          14 September 2020 08: 25
                          Quote: Vladimir Demyanov
                          Religiousness and spirituality are two different things.

                          Learn what is Orthodox spiritualityand also the fact that spirituality is the spiritual life of a person.
                          And yes - tell us about the tumultuous spiritual life that happens when you stare at a 90% artificial corpse
                        3. +2
                          14 September 2020 11: 56
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          Orthodox spirituality,

                          a spark of God is given to man in the form of freedom of Will. Thanks to this, a person, like God, is a creator, if he develops this spark in himself, he becomes great, if a person indulges his desires (and not his will), then he becomes like an animal
                        4. +7
                          14 September 2020 21: 00
                          Quote: Vladimir Demyanov
                          The usual substitution of concepts

                          Recently, they like to replace the absolute majority of concepts, unfortunately ...
                        5. -12
                          13 September 2020 12: 30
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          spiritual life is a theater, or contemplation of the Milky Way, which side of the church is there? Fear of death? believe and will you live forever? so this is faith, what does power have to do with it? powers apparently give some kind of confidence that there will be happiness in physical life

                          Is it ... LIKBEZ?

                          Orthodoxy explains what the spiritual life of a believer is, what relics are for, and much more. Read on and find out.
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          look at the volume of what has been written, for the sake of interest read the article "Imperialism and
                          empirio-criticism "try to replace digital calculations on economics with modern indicators and you have a ready-made most relevant article on the situation in the world today, there was no Internet then and there were libraries in switzerland.

                          Who needs this graphomaniac waste paper today? Funny ...
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          Sacrifice means rejection of the personal in favor of the publicas a necessary element of socialist ideology.

                          belay lol This is not political information of the 70s.

                          And yes, what this balding man has given up, but no one has ever an idle loafer, writing from a young old woman's mother to a pensioner: "Mom!Send MONEY! "?
                          lol
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          And social. ideology is, by the way, a modified Orthodoxy, the result of its development.

                          belay lol Holy Trinity-Marx, Engels Leninin? Demonstration procession with their portraits? Prayer Party Meeting? lol
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          we already passed this two years ago. I never received a list of these needs, or a description of them. You need a subraceand be more specific

                          The point is different: you just not coming, moreover, rather elementary things
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          when Lenin was placed in the Mausoleum, all over the country people were being prepared for a new life, for the fact that property would be public, it was necessary to do something that would change the supports in the public consciousness,

                          WHO instructed / allowed these foreign tourists from Switzerland to "cook" ... people, to change the "supports" of the Russian people?
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          The finding of Lenin in the Mausoleum is a symbol of the fact that the Idea of ​​Socialism is alive, and the future belongs to him!

                          lol This is a symbol of the misunderstanding of the would-be leaders of 100 years ago what they want: they left it for many years of experiments to preserve the outer shells of the skin of a corpse (90% today is artificial)
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          A Russian without socialism is the same American. By the way, we are still considered communists.

                          Russian without fleeting s-ma exists for a THOUSAND YEARS and there is ONCE when it has rotted and disappeared forever: remember this FACT.
                        6. +2
                          13 September 2020 16: 01
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          Holy Trinity-Marx, Engels Leninin? Demonstration procession with their portraits? Prayer Party Meeting?

                          in general, I'm talking about socialist spirituality, that it is very similar to the Orthodox, but it prepares not for the afterlife, but for a feat in this ... love and everything else looks like one to one Thank you! laughing
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          This is a symbol of misunderstanding of the would-be leaders of 100 years ago
                          that's just not a hundred years old. Then it went exactly as it should. THIS is a miscalculation 50 years ago.
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          Russian without a fleeting s-ma exists for a THOUSAND YEARS and exists FURTHER, when it has rotted and disappeared forever: remember this FACT.
                          - I didn't understand anything in this phrase, I'm sorry, you can decipher it, otherwise you can't remember it, suddenly there is something important
                        7. -6
                          14 September 2020 08: 14
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          actually I'm talking about socialist spirituality

                          Shta ?!
                          belay lol
                          This sho for such a beast?
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          that's just not a hundred years old. Then it went exactly as it should. THIS is a miscalculation 50 years ago.

                          Solid 100-year error. Decayed, decayed and self-vanishing.
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          I didn't understand anything in this phrase, I'm sorry, you can decipher it, otherwise you can't remember it, suddenly there is something important

                          Read it again. Didn't get it? AGAIN! And so, until it comes.

                          The Russian man was 1000 years without a decaying fleeting "socialist", is and will be
                        8. +2
                          14 September 2020 11: 11
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          The Russian man was 1000 years without a decaying fleeting "socialist", is and will be

                          however, life shows that without socialism, the Russian people turn into national Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars and even Americans.laughing

                          Quote: Olgovich
                          This sho for such a beast?

                          this beast helped to win the Second World War. With its help, such economic growth rates were achieved that are not available to China, please don’t be stupid fool
                        9. -6
                          14 September 2020 13: 36
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          however, life shows that without socialism, Russian people turn into national Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars and even Americans

                          A THIRD TIME: Russians were, are and will be.

                          And those who are socialist, appeared out of nowhere and disappeared into nowhere. As it was not
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          that beast helped to win the Second World War. With its help, such economic growth rates were achieved that are not available to China, please don’t be stupid

                          What are the "growths" of the economy? This is when people had to wait FORTY YEARS to eat and dress, as in 1913 ?!

                          When from hunger in ... years of peace, there were SIX TIMES more dying of hunger (with cannibalism and corpse-eating) than in the bloody world war of many years? fool angry
                        10. +3
                          14 September 2020 13: 40
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          than in the bloody world war of many years?

                          26 million killed in the war
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          in ... peaceful years died SIX TIMES more

                          26 times 6 equals 156 million people starved to death ??? wassat wassat do not call me any more, and do not send telegrams, but to the hospital, urgently, extempore, without delay
                        11. -9
                          14 September 2020 13: 46
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          26 million killed in the war

                          Before your worst famine in the world, with massive cannibalism and corpse-eating, there was only PMA.

                          Got it, no?
                        12. +7
                          14 September 2020 21: 37
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          26 million killed in the war
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          in ... peaceful years died SIX TIMES more

                          26 times 6 equals 156 million people starved to death ???

                          These are the storytellers these bulkokhrusty
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          to the hospital, urgently, extempora, without delay

                          It's too late. Medicine is powerless ...
                        13. -1
                          15 September 2020 04: 57
                          Quote: TriA
                          It's too late. Medicine is powerless ...

                          don't tell .. smile Inject dopamine with oxytocin into a tour of the mausoleum ... Or bring Stalin to Stalin ... so he himself will not notice how he becomes their adherent ... Science, you know, has gone far
                        14. -1
                          15 September 2020 07: 59
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          Inject dopamine with oxytocin into a tour of the mausoleum

                          This is how yours is .... "socialist spirituality" ... Yes lol
                        15. -1
                          15 September 2020 10: 04
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          This is how yours is .... "socialist spirituality" ... yes

                          dear, it's just physiology. It is thanks to oxytocin that the mother loves her child. In men, it is also produced during the period of love. And if, while reading a book about spirituality, you have a release of oxytocin, then this spirituality will become dear to you.
                          Personally, I believe that socialism grew out of Orthodoxy, thanks to its Orthodox roots, it took root in Russia. All the troubles under socialism, they are from people - cruel opportunists
                        16. -2
                          15 September 2020 10: 11
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          dear, it's just physiology. It is thanks to oxytocin that the mother loves her child. In men, it is also produced during the period of love. And if, while reading a book about spirituality, you have a release of oxytocin, then this spirituality will become dear to you.

                          Medicine at you social. spirituality, yes ...
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          Usually, I think that socialism grew out of Orthodoxy, it was thanks to its Orthodox roots that it took root in Russia. All troubles under socialism, they are from people - cruel opportunists


                          Sorry that you got the WRONG PEOPLE: you did not understand the sufferers for his happiness.


                          And yes, do not forget that the result of your tireless "labors" for the people is Russian Cross, built by you
                        17. -1
                          15 September 2020 12: 33
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          Sorry that you got the wrong people

                          judging by the number of minuses to your posts, your spirituality also belongs to the wrong people laughing As a psychiatrist, I trust you with a secret: - every psycho considers himself normal. Therefore, it is common for a normal person to doubt. Temporarily accept someone else's point of view, find your own weaknesses, it will be useful for you. I ran through your posts, we have a lot in common with you, in fact. Truth differs from Truth in that Truth is based on known and convenient facts, and Truth on all, including unknown and inconvenient ones. Some Truth fighters reject facts that don't fit their Truth model. I found my Truth and found God, I hated Stalin and the communists, but collecting facts I realized that the socialists lost because they called themselves materialists, rejected God, in fact, socialism is a purely ideological doctrine that requires adherents of love and respect for others, self-sacrifice and self-distraction. otherwise socialism cannot be built
                        18. -1
                          15 September 2020 13: 47
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          judging by the number of minuses to your posts, your spirituality also belongs to the wrong people

                          Compare 10 minuses with hundreds of millions of minuses of citizens (including 18 million "vanguard" lol ) system, yes, it is generally beyond ...
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          As a psychiatrist, I will trust you with a secret: - every psycho considers himself normal

                          A well-known truth.
                          And yes, maybe the psychiatrist himself lives with a chronic mental disorder, is depressed or had a traumatic experience, who knows? what request
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          Temporarily accept someone else's point of view, find your own weaknesses, it will be useful for you

                          I had a different point of view and on an ongoing basis. She collapsed under the weight of the TRUTH, which disappeared for 70 years.
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          I am myI found the truth, and found God, I hated Stalin and the communists, however, collecting facts I realized that the socialists lost because they called themselves materialists, rejected God, in fact, socialism is a purely ideological doctrine, requiring from adherents love and respect for others, self-sacrifice and self-infringement... otherwise socialism cannot be built

                          Yes.... recourse
                          You admit only one thing: ALL THAT time is the time of total, all-embracing LIE - always, in everything and everything.

                          What ... Truth is possible with this ?!
                        19. 0
                          15 September 2020 15: 13
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          Comparing 10 minuses with hundreds of millions of minuses of citizens (including 18 million "vanguard" detachment) to the system, yes, this is generally over the edge ...

                          according to my personal statistics, hundreds of millions are just for the USSR, the argument is not accepted

                          Quote: Olgovich
                          I had a different point of view and on an ongoing basis. She collapsed under the weight of the TRUTH, which disappeared for 70 years.

                          I had it too, lol only the collapsed point of view after 20 years of capitalism returned to its original, in a more perfect version
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          You admit only one thing: ALL THAT time is the time of total, all-embracing LIE - always, in everything and everything.

                          First you need to decide whether you agree with the definition of truth and truth proposed by me?
                        20. -3
                          15 September 2020 16: 12
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          according to my personal statistics, hundreds of millions are just for the USSR, the argument is not accepted

                          belay lol
                          NONE of the 280 million in 1991 stood for the regime. No one!

                          Denial reality You should be familiar by profession. Like dopamines - to "return" there
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          it was like that for me too, only the collapsed point of view after 20 years of capitalism returned to its original, in a more perfect version

                          lol
                          Quote: aybolyt678

                          First you need to decide whether you agree with the definition of truth and truth proposed by me?

                          Of course not.

                          What's the difference?

                          Lies and Truth / Truth are incompatible.
                        21. 0
                          15 September 2020 17: 46
                          Quote: Olgovich

                          belay lol
                          NONE of the 280 million in 1991 stood for the regime. No one!

                          belay they were shot from tanks in the House of Soviets, humane adepts of capitalism.

                          Quote: Olgovich
                          Like dopamines - to "return" there

                          dopamines are produced in the body on its own as a reaction to a job well done, a difficult victory, do not confuse them with drugs
                          Quote: Olgovich
                          Of course not.

                          But this is a matter of principle. True is a relative concept based on facts and interests. The interpretation of known facts depends on the interests of the party. What is a lie - an overlooked fact? or its perversion in favor of interest? Truth is an absolute concept that does not contradict facts and does not depend on the interests and eloquence of the disputants. If we are not determined with the concepts GOOD BYE
                        22. -2
                          16 September 2020 06: 09
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          they were shot from tanks in the House of Soviets, the humane adepts of capitalism

                          In 1993, there was no longer a trace of socialism and the USSR: WHAT are you talking about?
                          Quote: aybolyt678
                          If we are not determined with the concepts GOOD BYE

                          I have no desire to pick out differences where there are none.

                          A lie, according to the definition, is "INTENTIONAL distortion of the truth, not true."

                          Goodbye.
                  3. +1
                    13 September 2020 03: 28
                    Someone believes in one thing, someone else, no one is better than others and no worse, so do not make one thing necessary and the other stupid.
                    They are such double standards ...
            2. -4
              12 September 2020 13: 12
              But most do so because of the recognition of his role in history.


              Most? Under the USSR, most of the people of the country did not even visit Moscow, and even more so in the mausoleum because of the queue, and now even more so, young people really look at this as an attraction or as an anachronism.
          3. +17
            12 September 2020 11: 06
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            but I just personally do not like it when the deceased lies on public display and the people, like an attraction, go to look at him.

            It is even worse when a ruler who has lost trust, respect and dignity, practically a "political dead", puts a comedy about a happy future one by one on public display of his own people and conducts an electoral circus with "zeroing out", "multi-day voting" and accusations of terrorism .. ...
            1. +17
              12 September 2020 11: 13
              The mausoleum prepares for itself, frees up the place.
              1. +26
                12 September 2020 11: 44
                The mausoleum is the tomb of the Great Leader of the world proletariat. There is no need to attach the "carcass" of Judas there. These attempts are nothing more than vandalism and desecration.
                1. -20
                  12 September 2020 12: 27
                  Quote: lexus
                  The mausoleum is the tomb of the Great Leader of the world proletariat. There is no need to attach the "carcass" of Judas there. These attempts are nothing more than vandalism and desecration.

                  What does the "carcass of Judas" have to do with it?
                  Are you Orthodox in general? Not an ancient Egyptian, not an Indian? So, excuse me, being an Orthodox Christian, from what hangover do you, like those Egyptians, hold on to the pyramid and this, so to speak, "Pharaoh"?
                  And this definition is the leader! What are you, Indian?
                  Now about Lenin. He was not a man and does not have the right to NORMAL BURIAL, as a Christian? What is the body in the middle of the country not buried? Those who consider themselves to be a communist can go to his grave.
                  Now, about these clever guys who make up the minuses here to adequate comments ...
                  Ale, citizens, when at least one of you gorlopanov was the last time in the Mausoleum, if you are shouting so much for this corpse here?
                  So, from branch to branch about the return of the USSR, we don't need this shout-sho! But you don’t want to bury this indian-pharaoh lisp in a human way, as I quote, "this is our story."
                  Like going to see the mummy, go to Egyptian museums!
                  To remind you, lovers of mummies, that this leader began to create the first Gulagi?
                  1. -11
                    12 September 2020 12: 45
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Quote: lexus
                    The mausoleum is the tomb of the Great Leader of the world proletariat. There is no need to attach the "carcass" of Judas there. These attempts are nothing more than vandalism and desecration.

                    What does the "carcass of Judas" have to do with it?
                    Are you Orthodox in general? Not an ancient Egyptian, not an Indian? So, excuse me, being an Orthodox Christian, from what hangover do you, like those Egyptians, hold on to the pyramid and this, so to speak, "Pharaoh"?
                    And this definition is the leader! What are you, Indian?
                    Now about Lenin. He was not a man and does not have the right to NORMAL BURIAL, as a Christian? What is the body in the middle of the country not buried? Those who consider themselves to be a communist can go to his grave.
                    Now, about these clever guys who make up the minuses here to adequate comments ...
                    Ale, citizens, when at least one of you gorlopanov was the last time in the Mausoleum, if you are shouting so much for this corpse here?
                    So, from branch to branch about the return of the USSR, we don't need this shout-sho! But you don’t want to bury this indian-pharaoh lisp in a human way, as I quote, "this is our story."
                    Like going to see the mummy, go to Egyptian museums!
                    To remind you, lovers of mummies, that this leader began to create the first Gulagi?

                    You are absolutely right, none of these "communists" wants to ponder for whose money this Swiss comrade was sitting out, what is the NEP and how that time differed from the current 90. They refer to the achievements of Stalin, who radically changed what the "leader" intended. And although Stalin was removed from the mausoleum, there are more and more flowers on his grave every year, and no mausoleum is required for Stalin.
                    1. -13
                      12 September 2020 12: 55
                      Quote: FenH
                      none of these "communists" wants to think about whose money this comrade in Switzerland was sitting out,

                      What kind of communists they are. Gorlopany! Socialism is declined in cases, and here wherever there, they decided to bury this stinking corpse in a human way, so there was a reason to kick the throat.
                      They don't put their relatives in the pyramids in the backyard. Because sho is expensive and because, what a fig?
                      Of these "communists" grief, only a few have read Capital Marx, but I generally keep quiet about Lenin's writings. Fighters against the regime, ugh.
                      Touched by comments like Putin is preparing a place for himself in the Mausoleum. laughing This is generally a level 80 idiocy.
                      1. -11
                        12 September 2020 13: 02
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: FenH
                        none of these "communists" wants to think about whose money this comrade in Switzerland was sitting out,

                        What kind of communists they are. Gorlopany! Socialism is declined in cases, and here wherever there, they decided to bury this stinking corpse in a human way, so there was a reason to kick the throat.
                        They don't put their relatives in the pyramids in the backyard. Because sho is expensive and because, what a fig?
                        Of these "communists" grief, only a few have read Capital Marx, but I generally keep quiet about Lenin's writings. Fighters against the regime, ugh.
                        Touched by comments like Putin is preparing a place for himself in the Mausoleum. laughing This is generally a level 80 idiocy.

                        Plus, how much does it cost to maintain a given corpse and an entire institution in addition, which does not allow it to decompose.
                        1. -15
                          12 September 2020 13: 08
                          Quote: FenH
                          Plus, how much does it cost to maintain a given corpse and an entire institution in addition, which does not allow it to decompose.

                          Not only that ... there is generally a break in the template ... we do not want and do not want the USSR. We need Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova as a part of one state, so there’s nothing to eat on our own, but here we have to feed these parasites.
                          But at the same time, "get your hands off the great leader Chingadzhguk", excuse me, Lenin! Because this is our story! As if from the fact that this corpse is buried, everyone about the story will immediately have amnesia.
                        2. +4
                          13 September 2020 14: 17
                          Quote: FenH
                          Plus, how much does it cost to maintain a given corpse and an entire institution in addition, which does not allow it to decompose.

                          ===
                          Probably, in the first years or decades it was a kind of scientific experiment, but now it has certainly been studied, and the results have been obtained to worship, you can also honor a person in a cemetery. on the other hand, since this causes such bitterness in people, it is possible to postpone and pass the decision on to the next generations.
                      2. +26
                        12 September 2020 13: 19
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        What kind of communists they are. Gorlopany!

                        Liberal is not rude to the communists, you will not be rude.
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        They decided to bury this stinking corpse in a human way, so there was a reason to kick the throat.

                        Of those offended by the Soviet regime will you be?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Of these "communists" grief, only a few have read Capital Marx, but I generally keep quiet about Lenin's writings

                        Shall we discuss any work of Lenin, Stalin, Marx?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Regime fighters

                        We are not fighting, we are defending the rights of the people of Russia, which you are trampling on.
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        This is generally a level 80 idiocy.

                        Why do you humiliate yourself so, and even publicly, calling your thoughts a level 80 idiocy?
                        1. +18
                          12 September 2020 16: 27
                          Of those offended by the Soviet regime will you be?

                          hi Along the way, "in life" like that.
                      3. +18
                        12 September 2020 16: 25
                        this stinking corpse

                        Only from this phrase "amber" is orders of magnitude "stronger". Moreover, from there, where a healthy person, physically and mentally, a priori should not have it.
                      4. +5
                        13 September 2020 03: 31
                        After reading your comment, it is clearly clear that there is such a phenomenon that, although not a corpse, but more stinking
                    2. +23
                      12 September 2020 13: 22
                      Quote: FenH
                      none of these "communists" wants to think about whose money this Swiss comrade was sitting out, what is the NEP and how was that time different from the current 90

                      Enlighten us an expert. Be smart. And we'll see what your education is. wink
                      Quote: FenH
                      They refer to the achievements of Stalin, who radically changed what the "leader" intended

                      Shall we discuss this topic?
                    3. -23
                      12 September 2020 15: 24
                      Quote: FenH
                      We are absolutely right, none of these "communists" wants to think about whose money this Swiss comrade sat out for,

                      Duc, and now it "exists" at a STATE expense: at least the PAYMENT would be taken for showing the ekponata, to justify the cost of maintaining.
                      1. +14
                        12 September 2020 16: 30
                        PAYMENT would be taken for showing the ekponat - to justify the cost of maintaining

                        The time will come - we will show you. Someone in a cage, some at work.
                        1. -16
                          12 September 2020 16: 36
                          Quote: lexus
                          The time will come - we will show you. Someone in a cage, some at work.


                          Sho, AGAIN, wait ?! belay lol

                          They waited, waited for communism now about, now in 20 years, then again threatened ...AND?!

                          You are funny, menacing ..., ... lol laughing

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                        3. +4
                          13 September 2020 03: 33
                          Civil war on the conscience of those who did not voluntarily fulfill the will of the people and tried to keep the former position by force, where they are masters, and the bulk of the second grade
                        4. +8
                          14 September 2020 21: 02
                          Quote: Revival
                          Civil war on the conscience of those who did not voluntarily fulfill the will of the people and tried to keep the former position by force, where they are masters, and the bulk of the second grade

                          They are striving for this now, and lately with leaps and bounds, in a line where some gentlemen and others are slaves ...
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                        4. +20
                          12 September 2020 13: 41
                          Read their biography. Yes
                        5. -14
                          12 September 2020 13: 42
                          Quote: Arlen
                          Read their biography. Yes

                          Q.E.D! The bawdy was blown away. The curtain! fellow
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                        7. -17
                          12 September 2020 13: 54
                          Quote: Arlen
                          Well, if you need an answer, then Korolev was imprisoned for spending 120000 rubles on the wrong developments.

                          Wrong development? wassat Che wanted a rocket, but he built himself a garage at home? wassat
                          And I found the same phrase, not for those developments ...! lol
                          Go on, I beg you! I haven't laughed like that in a long time! laughing
                        8. -6
                          12 September 2020 17: 08
                          Quote: NEXUS
                          Go on, I beg you! I haven't laughed like that in a long time! laughing

                          Yes, he earns pluses for himself ...
                        9. -7
                          12 September 2020 17: 11
                          Quote: Lara Croft
                          Yes, he earns pluses for himself ...

                          Yes, these kids with pluses and minuses are everywhere. The Lexus is the same all over the head. General. fellow
                      2. +20
                        12 September 2020 16: 37
                        Yes, NOT a respected bawdy pseudo communist, I'm Orthodox.

                        No piety has prevented anyone from being a villain. Thank you for convincing me of this again. By personal example, so to speak.

                        To you crazy

                        From the "bottom of obscurantism" sounds like a compliment.
                      3. +3
                        13 September 2020 02: 38
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Can I remind you about the Red Terror, the first repressions?

                        the culprits were punished in 37
                      4. +6
                        13 September 2020 03: 36
                        And to remind you that the Red Terror was the Answer to the White Terror!
                        At least study the chronology, although you don't need it ..
                        And whom did the overwhelming majority of the people support?
                        And how to live the country is decided only by the people, not the king and the like ...
                  3. +19
                    12 September 2020 16: 00
                    what a hangover are you

                    Do not drag your "signature" style of "throwing ... thoughts" to me.

                    Are you Orthodox in general?

                    Ask this question to the priests who are fattening at the expense of the people, who are building "three mansions a day" instead of "optimized" kindergartens, schools, hospitals and enterprises. And also to shameless scoundrels who stick out their "piety" when it is profitable, "on the occasion", and even "in the wrong place." "Fragrant" while unhappy parents are forced "by the whole world" to collect money for the treatment of sick children who turned out to be unnecessary to the failed "pseudo-state", nothing more than a "leftover" from the Great Soviet Union.

                    What are you, Indian?

                    It is for the half-citizens who sold their homeland for "promises", soon there will be "white people", together with "Asian brothers" to hunt and "lousy gifts" to present. For them their sycophants "for the eyes."

                    Now about Lenin ...

                    You, uncle, have obviously turned into the "son of the wine-making country", from which you got here, in the entire upper part of the body. There is nothing to discuss - you have forever lost your human appearance, once you "gave out" such an abomination. Sculpt your "minuses" until once again they catch you by the hand "hot" and demote. Do not annoy people with your disguise - they are disgusted.
                    1. -9
                      12 September 2020 16: 48
                      Quote: lexus
                      There is nothing to discuss - you have forever lost your human appearance, once you "gave out" such an abomination.

                      Hmm ... I'm looking at you bombing, as much dermis on the walls. Why don't you, the truth-lover, make YOUR dearly beloved and revered relatives as mummies and bury them in your backyard?
                      Quote: lexus
                      Sculpt your "minuses" until once again they catch you by the hand "hot" and demote.

                      Another frame not disfigured by intelligence. fellow You ask Smirnov who and what demoted me and why.
                      I suggest for those who are in the tank, I myself asked him to demote me.
                      As for the minuses ... you are looking at kindergarten here, since you mentioned the minuses. For the information of degenerates with such statements, I NEVER GIVE ANYONE MINUSES FROM THE WORD AT ALL. Even as narrow-minded as you.
                      1. -7
                        12 September 2020 17: 14
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        I NEVER GIVE ANYONE MINUSES FROM THE WORD AT ALL. Even as narrow-minded as you.

                        Yes, I give him minuses, because I do not agree with any of his words, but he thinks that it is you ...
                        Ah-le, "general mr" put downsides to me, yours will not come to power in the Russian Federation anyway, and in other republics of the Union you are either banned or despised ...
                        1. -6
                          12 September 2020 17: 17
                          Quote: Lara Croft
                          Yes, I give him minuses, because I do not agree with any of his words, but he thinks that it is you ...

                          Do not be high bude buckwheat. fellowIn general, this is significant ... a person enters into a discussion and then minuses his opponent. It seems to me alone that this is some such vile meanness, and the meanness of such a petty hypocritical thief? wassat
                          And some clever guy went over my comments and stupidly, without looking at the minuses, pissed me off. I can't with these cretins. wassat
                        2. -5
                          12 September 2020 18: 22
                          Quote: NEXUS
                          Do not be high bude buckwheat. fellowIn general, this is significant ... a person enters into a discussion and then minuses his opponent.

                          Well no. He provokes a dialogue, and he and his associates put the minuses, I noticed this long ago on VO ...
                      2. +13
                        12 September 2020 17: 32
                        I myself asked him to demote me.

                        "Winemaker-masochist", it turns out. About "narrow-mindedness" and "degeneration" - it's about your comments. Call more assistants, you can be "sexless", like a "creature" near you - for the number is less than six, you cannot twist the "Ilyich's lamp". I understand that it was not an anecdote.
                  4. +3
                    12 September 2020 17: 33
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    To remind you, lovers of mummies, that this leader began to create the first Gulagi?

                    You are depriving Trotsky of his laurels. Not good, unfair.
                    Or are the liberals forbidden to mention it?
                  5. +6
                    12 September 2020 21: 47
                    Are you Orthodox in general?

                    Gaspadin, you can see right away - a helluva lot of Orthodox. It is especially clear from this text:
                    of this Indian pharaoh burr

                    So it is not customary for the Orthodox to exorcise themselves over the dead.
                    And therefore, you either take off the cross, or pull on your panties.
                    1. -5
                      12 September 2020 22: 22
                      Quote: Corporal Valera
                      Gaspadin, you can see right away - a helluva lot of Orthodox.

                      Yes, I am Orthodox. Are your panties pressing for you to spoil the air here?
                      Quote: Corporal Valera
                      So it is not customary for the Orthodox to exorcise themselves over the dead.

                      So it is not customary for the Orthodox to keep corpses in their houses, and even to drive excursions to "look". fool
                      Quote: Corporal Valera
                      And therefore, you either take off the cross, or pull on your panties.

                      Wrap a coward around your ears ... yeah.
                      1. +4
                        12 September 2020 22: 54
                        Yes, I'm Orthodox

                        Yes And the symbol of faith, you probably know Yes
                        So it is not customary for the Orthodox to keep corpses in their houses, and even to drive excursions to "look".

                        That is how the Orthodox have not yet thought of it. Tours are sitting at home, and they carry "to see" in parts.
                        Wrap a panties on your ears.

                        What for?
                        1. -3
                          12 September 2020 23: 16
                          Quote: Corporal Valera
                          That is how the Orthodox have not yet thought of it. Tours are sitting at home, and they carry "to see" in parts.

                          Only that are HOLY people and not those who were allowed to spend by millions of people in their country ... yeah ... they are GOD'S PEOPLE, and not this desman, who for the sake of their fantasies sent the country into turmoil.
                          Quote: Corporal Valera
                          What for?

                          And Schaub did not write such crap about the cross. You are our Orthodox.
                        2. +4
                          13 September 2020 00: 23
                          You are our Orthodox.

                          I, it seems, did not position myself that way, unlike you. However, I have nothing against the HOLY people, but obscurantists who think themselves Orthodox, build three churches a day and operate with phrases are very annoying:

                          this stinking corpse


                          Do not dishonor Orthodoxy, little respected Gaspadin!
                  6. +3
                    13 September 2020 12: 23
                    The first concentration camp was created by the British for the Boers after the Anglo-Boer War in the early 20th century.
                2. +2
                  12 September 2020 15: 35
                  Quote: lexus
                  There is no need to attach the "carcass" of Judas there.

                  Well, okay, you wanted to pour out your bile - it is necessary sometimes ... But have you read the article? Is there such a thing? Did you follow the link? Is there that too? What is the link? I will tell you - error 404. You are provoked, but you are nervous and twitching!
                  1. 0
                    13 September 2020 14: 26
                    Quote: Motorist
                    Quote: lexus
                    There is no need to attach the "carcass" of Judas there.

                    Okay, You wanted to pour out your bile - it is necessary sometimes ... But have you read the article? Is there such a thing? Did you follow the link? Is there that too? What is the link? I will tell you - error 404. You are provoked, but you are nervous and twitching!

                    ===
                    you need to ban screamers for a week, and from different sides
                    1. +1
                      13 September 2020 14: 32
                      Quote: Victorio
                      you need to ban for a week screamers

                      I agree! But then half of the members of the forum will constantly take a steam bath ... Yes
              2. -1
                12 September 2020 23: 10
                Quote: 7,62x54
                The mausoleum prepares for itself, frees up the place.
                And on the last 2 letters (I, H) you can save
            2. +18
              12 September 2020 11: 25
              It is even worse when a ruler who has lost trust, respect and dignity is practically a "political dead"

              hi Here, along the way, and "rolled the lips" on the "last residence".



              Although its well-deserved place is in the landfill. And Stories too. Together with the "architects".
              1. -7
                12 September 2020 19: 33
                There will be no place for our president, whoever, in the landfill - because the landfill has long been filled with your "communists" and do not worry, you pseudo-communists will soon be there.
                1. +10
                  12 September 2020 19: 58
                  Oh ... the "business domain" has appeared. Are you still using the batteries, "#the lifter of Russia", or have you come up with another "new" legend? And where are the "rainbow" campaigns? The "chief cook" dropped the "cooks", locked them in the "kitchen" and unscrewed them "over the hill", and you, by inertia, are "jerking"? Well, no - go to the "breakthrough" without us. And before that, restore the destroyed taiga and reclaim all your "g ... state" from your "deeds". Under the supervision of "grateful" citizens.
                  1. -1
                    13 September 2020 11: 42
                    Use batteries only for people like you - because there are no hands or heads for anything else. The production of sliding bearings, high-precision parts to order, plasma spraying devices, casting of blanks, tactical knives, repair of construction and special equipment, as well as the production of CX products and delivery for export have been my lines of business for 15 years in a row. For the taiga and forests, do not worry about it and restore it without your help, and quite successfully, but at the expense of breakthroughs, yours never had and never will, since your pseudo-communists are all over the place: mediocrity, loafers and everyday moaning whining about and without reason ...
                    1. +9
                      13 September 2020 12: 47
                      Write a cheat sheet to yourself, otherwise you will forget who you are "in a bedtime story", you will again and again look shamefully ridiculous, as, however, always, which has already become commonplace for you.

                      The communists won the worst war, and

                      mediocrities, loafers and everyday soggy whiners about and without reason

                      they constantly whine that they have a "heavy legacy" to "dance", sanctions and "double standards" interfere; great power ", without noticing, at the same time, their own wretchedness.

                      but at the expense of breakthroughs

                      You can already throw your pants away, they "cannot be saved", and the "skiers" sofa, today is a day off, may not be repaired. Once again drive the "office" into spending.
                      1. -1
                        13 September 2020 20: 19
                        "Write a cheat sheet to yourself, otherwise you will forget who you are" in a bedtime story ", Yours just had bedtime stories for 69 years, the belief in which shattered to smithereens in the 80s and 90s" Constantly whine that "dance" they have a "heavy legacy", sanctions and "double standards" get in the way, at the same time, submissively "tucking their tail" in this, your own wretchedness. "Basically you whine, but at the expense of the heavy legacy, it really turned out to be difficult for the economy, which had passed into market conditions - because, in addition to the ruined ecology and thousands of antediluvian industries using the technologies of the 50s, for the most part, nothing is better than buckets with bolts and trash in the civilian sector was not released - everyone, even in the USSR, ran after foreign products, only now it is impossible to catch up with them in significant directions, since they have been storing the entire world market for all 69 years in a row so far your idiots from the CPSU were engaged in communist experiments. "You can already throw your pants away" - With my pants everything is fine, I have a lot of them all and different - but at the expense of yours I am not sure to slow down, then 30 years in a row sitting from them already and the rags are all torn and worn out. Go on with the accumulators, the baryzh, the rescuer of the offices of communism.
                        1. +7
                          13 September 2020 21: 33
                          bucket with bolts

                          Once again, they showed what a worthless production worker you are. The USSR, including this product, provided itself 100%. And now, you can "sing" anything, 70-80%, really "elementary", poor import. Chinese. As well as your "rags", which you regularly "stuff" to "breakout". And none, even thousands, of "sharazhek" of your, "garage" type, neither in terms of production volume, nor in quality, are worth the "auxiliary" of any one and only Soviet enterprise, now ditched and stolen by the same as you, scammers. If anything, I know perfectly well what industrial enterprises were in the European part of the Soviet Union, what they were doing ... and what was left of them. This is not progress, but degradation.
            3. -8
              12 September 2020 11: 30
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
              but I just personally do not like it when the deceased lies on public display and the people, like an attraction, go to look at him.

              It is even worse when a ruler who has lost trust, respect and dignity, practically a "political dead", puts a comedy about a happy future one by one on public display of his own people and conducts an electoral circus with "zeroing out", "multi-day voting" and accusations of terrorism .. ...


              Quote: 7,62x54
              The mausoleum prepares for itself, frees up the place.

              ===
              who about what, and naked about the bath
              1. +23
                12 September 2020 11: 58
                Guys, whatever you want, but transforming the Mausoleum of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin into something else is blasphemy! This is vulgar, cowardly, philistine petty and unworthy!
                1. +3
                  12 September 2020 12: 47
                  Quote: depressant
                  Guys, whatever you want, but transforming the Mausoleum of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin into something else is blasphemy! This is vulgar, cowardly, philistine petty and unworthy!

                  It is useless for them to talk about it. All anti-Soviets - all ultimately turn out to be ROSOPHOBS and "monarchists" - Westerners!
                2. -17
                  12 September 2020 13: 03
                  Quote: depressant
                  Guys, whatever you want, but transforming the Mausoleum of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin into something else is blasphemy! This is vulgar, cowardly, philistine petty and unworthy!

                  And a corpse in the middle of the country, standing there according to LANGUAGE laws, is that normal? It is blasphemy to live in capitalism, according to the laws of capitalism, NOT TO WANT the return of the USSR, but at the same time to be indignant at the burial of this burry little man. And we still need to look very closely at what this instance did really good for the country, and what it did NOT good for the same period. And for me, there is more nasty than good.
                  You, Lyudmila, since you are so concerned about this mummy, answer, when was the last time you personally were in the Mausoleum?
                  1. +11
                    12 September 2020 15: 47
                    There are many political dead in history. But their monuments cannot be destroyed.
                    Let's then blow up the pyramids of Ancient Egypt, the tombs of the kings and queens in Luxor, the Mausoleum of Hadrian and the Mausoleum of Augustus in Rome. Let's destroy Qin Shi Huangdi's tomb in Xi'an.
                    From the fact that the monuments are pagan, do they become worse from this? Destroy Lenin's Mausoleum. But then destroy the tombs of the Russian Orthodox tsars, the tombs of the Popes in Rome. Because they are also political dead.
                    1. -8
                      12 September 2020 17: 32
                      Quote: Alexander1971
                      There are many political dead in history.

                      Some are followed by a trail of dead former citizens of their country ...
                      But their monuments cannot be destroyed.

                      Not a word about this in the article ...
                      Let's then blow up the pyramids of Ancient Egypt

                      What a daring, young, but early .... You did not build them ... if you want to blow them up, refer to the ancient ukram (they are the "ancient Sumerians" and seamen) ...
                      But then destroy
                      и
                      tombs of the popes in Rome
                      I will not say anything about "Papa", well, if his migrants from Albania and Syria, bursting in the EU with dynamite, blow up it, I will definitely not cry ...
                      1. +6
                        12 September 2020 18: 18
                        Lara Croft, I can tell you that monuments cannot be destroyed at all, even if the persons whom these monuments immortalize are not pleasant to you. Other people may not like those historical characters that are pleasant to you. And what, then, to destroy ALL the monuments?

                        For example, now there are a number of monuments to Caligula and Nero. The emperors of Rome were lousy. But does this mean that their monuments must be broken?

                        That's about Lenin. In a thousand years, the Lenin Mausoleum will remind descendants of this historical personality, albeit not pleasant, including unpleasant to me. It is impossible for the present emotions to influence the memory of the past. For emotions can change 180 degrees. For example, Napoleon I in France was almost God, and after his abdication he became a bad upstart Corsican. Then by 1830 Napoleon became the Hero of France again. And in 1870, during the Paris Commune, Napoleon became bad again. Even his Vendome column was broken. But since 1871 Napoleon is good again for France. However, since the 21st century, Napoleon has not been honored again in France. Does this mean that it is necessary to break and build monuments depending on the changeable moods of the plebeians? On the contrary! Monuments must be unshakable for centuries. Otherwise, people and nations will not have historical memory. Are you looking to rebuild the Acropolis of Athens into a shopping center? But the Acropolis is a temple to those gods, in which no one believes.
                      2. +1
                        14 September 2020 04: 12
                        All great people are followed by a trail of the dead. And for the pharaohs, and for the emperors, and for the tyrants and dictators. And it is not a fact that mass murder is bad. This is bad for the slain, but good for the victors and the descendants of the victors. Since I am alive, and you are alive, it means that we are the descendants of the winners (albeit not in everything, but in the main thing - survival). And the defeated descendants do not.

                        Pyramids and mausoleums are not built for petty individuals who did not arrange massacre.
                    2. -7
                      12 September 2020 19: 48
                      In general, that time from 1917 to the early 50s for Russia was probably the bloodiest because of the many terrible events in the history of mankind - Nikolai Beshrebetny became the starting point for one country, and Ulyanov and the Bolsheviks then continued the experiment called the USSR to create a utopian society where there is no lies of greed all resources and territories are limitless everyone owns everyone everyone is equal in everything, and so on lasted 69 years and failed with a crash and blood under the yoke of ordinary human egoism, which is embedded in a person by nature and which no communist socialism can ever remove from a person to deceive and bypass nature will not work.
                      1. +2
                        13 September 2020 16: 32
                        The first emperor of a unified China, Qin Shi Huangdi, killed several million people without a firearm. In the 60s, the PRC authorities found his grave, including the terracotta army. According to your logic, the grave of the bloody tyrant must be destroyed.
                        However, if the ruler was not bloody, but simply spineless, then his grave must also be destroyed. And the graves of ordinary people, who are neither fish nor meat, also destroy?
                        Of course no. You need to remember everything in your history - both good and bad, and nothing can be destroyed. Moreover, what now seems good will be considered bad by the next generation and will also destroy? For example, the Bolsheviks destroyed a bunch of churches and noble estates.
                        I repeat once again that Lenin's Mausoleum is a monument with all its contents. Let it stand for centuries.
                    3. +11
                      14 September 2020 01: 13
                      Quote: Alexander1971
                      their monuments cannot be destroyed.

                      Herostratus will not rest for them ... They want to be immortalized in history ...
                      1. +8
                        14 September 2020 21: 06
                        The Gorostrat ended badly. His memory is bad ... wink
                  2. +4
                    12 September 2020 19: 39
                    Formally, this is not a corpse, but a mummified body. In the sarcophagus. At least with transparent walls.
                    1. -1
                      13 September 2020 20: 34
                      Russia is not Ancient Egypt or the Mayan civilization people were mummified there, put into sarcophagi and closed them - and here Ulyanov himself was put on public display, probably knowing what they would do with his body after death, he would have expressed himself with similar words "What are you XXXXXXXX"
                3. +10
                  12 September 2020 13: 18
                  Quote: depressant
                  This is vulgar, cowardly, philistine petty and unworthy!

                  After the 90s, the term "dignity" in the Russian Federation acquired a slightly different meaning. lol
                  1. +9
                    14 September 2020 21: 04
                    Quote: Sovetskiy
                    After the 90s, the term "dignity" in the Russian Federation acquired a slightly different meaning. lol

                    laughing What are the times, such are the concepts of terms ... Yeah ... Where are we going ...
                4. +6
                  12 September 2020 15: 43
                  depressant (lyudmila yakovlevna kuznetsova), Lenin's Mausoleum is the shrine of the communist religion. After all, you do not doubt that the communist ideology is a kind of idealistic mental construction?
                  I'm an atheist. I am an opponent of the communist worldview, because it is religious. But, I am also opposed to destroying the temples of certain religions. Or, if the Lenin Mausoleum is destroyed, what is better than the temples of other religions? They are not better. Then destroy them too. But then there will be few historical monuments for posterity.
                  After all, you do not believe in the gods of Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece? Or do you think that ancient temples should also be destroyed?
                  My opinion is not to destroy any temples, despite the fact that all religions, including the communist one, are deceitful.
                  1. +7
                    12 September 2020 18: 35
                    I guess I'll still have to answer. As luck would have it, health went wrong today. Well, this is my personal (((
                    As for the Mausoleum.
                    Every time, when due to inept, clumsy actions of the government - even in the Soviet era, even in the current era of our undercapitalism, or, as now, a serious failure in the economy is outlined, the government turns to the Mausoleum - a symbol of the era of overcoming difficulties and prosperity economy of the Stalin era. First, Khrushchev took out Stalin's body. And then, periodically, like now: "Let's take out Lenin's body!" A hint is given, characteristic of the weak, that we, they say, are not to blame, all our difficulties are from there, from the socialist past, it is their fault, hanging like a stone around our necks. This is called distracting the attention of the people from the true culprits of what is happening, simply translating the arrows. And as soon as this happens, get ready: you will have to tighten your belts.
                    And since it, the past, is to blame, let's stomp on it, and everything will immediately become good. Well, let's say you can. And who do you then nod at?

                    The removal of Stalin's body from the Mausoleum became a signal for all dark forces, both domestic and foreign: the people endured, so the collapse of the USSR can be started. The removal of Lenin's body from the Mausoleum will be the same signal for Russia. Silently, they will begin to slowly remove monuments to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War and Lenin, where the latter still remain, as well as rename the streets. The great era of socialism will gradually be erased from the memory of all subsequent generations. The expectations of people from that era will also be erased. "What kind of socialism? A bright future? What are you talking about? .."
                    And then there will be some "kulturtrager" who will authoritatively declare that the Mausoleum not only does not represent cultural value, but also does not fit into the architectural and historical ensemble of Red Square, and it should be demolished. And demolished.
                    This is how the people will find themselves without one of their props in the form of a piece of history. There are no symbols, no history itself.

                    How many people are visiting Lenin's Mausoleum now? I don’t think so. But the consciousness that he is and is in him - no, not the body of the Leader of the world proletariat, they do not say that anymore, because there is no proletariat in his past understanding, and the body of the herald of the era of justice - this consciousness creates the conviction that that such an era was, it means that it is possible in the future.

                    Yes, I have never visited the Mausoleum. Didn't happen. But this does not mean that millions of people did not visit it with a sincere desire to pay tribute to the memory of Lenin and his contribution to the construction of the USSR. Maybe that's the point? He created, united the country, and now there are tendencies towards the destruction of what was left of it, and the Mausoleum is like a log in the eye?
                    The authorities do not understand that the shredding of the history of the people makes it petty.
                    1. -6
                      12 September 2020 20: 34
                      Quote: depressant
                      Yes, I have never visited the Mausoleum.

                      Forgive me for such a seditious idea, but let us mummify your relatives, put them on the balance of the state and lead excursions to these crypts? They are dear to you. So why do you bury them? Let them be with us in the form of mummies.
                      Quote: depressant
                      The authorities do not understand that the shredding of the history of the people makes it petty.

                      And people do not understand that ANY revolutions throw the country in development for decades! And this is a fact! The main contingent of citizens after 17 years went to the expense and to the camps? They mowed down the gene pool of the country, and even the color of the nation (INTELLIGENCE) was thinned out so that only ahu ... should have been surprised.
                      How long did it take for the country to recover from all this? And the 91st was not the same. And how many people (men) again went to the expense?
                      Yes, these revolutionaries burn in hell! They have no repentance in this world, not in that one.
                      1. +4
                        12 September 2020 21: 43
                        Colleague Nexus, we don't know each other well ...
                        In VO, there is probably no greater opponent of all revolutions and coups than I am. I have personal reasons for that.
                        As a revolution, I perceive the removal of Lenin's body from the Mausoleum - such a slow, extended in time revolution, a certain bloodless part of it. Takeaway first. Then attempts to create a museum. Then the debate about which museum. Then came the decision to move the Mausoleum somewhere. Moved. The public's attention was distracted by something important. Forgot. The mausoleum is somewhere in a hangar, in the wilderness, in a disassembled state. Twelve years later, stalkers run into him, covered with dust ... This is how the true story goes ...
                        At least, this is apparently the intention.

                        The mausoleum is not a skyscraper, which can be demolished after the expiration date. The mausoleum makes sense only if it contains the body of Lenin.
                        The mausoleum with Lenin's body is a formidable shadow of the past, a reminder to people who have decided that they are powerful of this world that history is spiraling.
                        It is clear how unpleasant it is for them to see the Mausoleum with Lenin's body. And even without a body.
                        Did you want power? You got it.
                        You received it over the people, from whom - not from you! - there is a Mausoleum with Lenin's body. Other people were not given to you in your possession. And this people will no longer be different. Because once he built the Mausoleum and placed Lenin's body in it.
                        So bear with it.
                        Otherwise, the spiral of history will unclench and sweep away you all, turning into the Red Wheel.
                        And not the presence of the Mausoleum with Lenin's body will be the reason, but his absence. Liberals tell us: start with yourself! Let the authorities set an example - let them start with themselves. I think there is a lot to catch on to and where to start. There is no need to cling to the Mausoleum with Lenin's body and start with it. This is a relic of my people.
                5. +1
                  13 September 2020 12: 06
                  Quote: depressant
                  Guys, whatever you want, but transforming the Mausoleum of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin into something else is blasphemy! This is vulgar, cowardly, philistine petty and unworthy!

                  Yeah! So you, Lyudmila, have found very correct words for such plans. This refers to a similar desire to grind and vulgarize the entire Soviet era. All the achievements of the USSR. But the most important thing is that this also applies to belittling the USSR Victory over the Nazis. They say, somehow they won the wrong way, somehow the Germans in captivity were not well equipped, somehow they won in spite of Stalin, but a lot of all sorts of shit poured out on the USSR. So they decided to take on Lenin, and then generations will not know about the enemy's banners thrown to the Mausoleum. That's what!
            4. -5
              12 September 2020 13: 17
              It is even worse when a ruler who has lost trust, respect and dignity is practically a "political dead"


              The political dead is the late Brezhnev, Chernenko, but no matter how Putin, do not confuse the concept.
              1. +6
                12 September 2020 15: 45
                There are many political dead in history. But their monuments cannot be destroyed.
                Let's then blow up the pyramids of Ancient Egypt, the tombs of the kings and queens in Luxor, the Mausoleum of Hadrian and the Mausoleum of Augustus in Rome. Let's destroy Qin Shi Huangdi's tomb in Xi'an.
                1. -4
                  12 September 2020 17: 34
                  Quote: Alexander1971
                  There are many political dead in history. But their monuments cannot be destroyed.
                  Let's then blow up the pyramids of Ancient Egypt, the tombs of the kings and queens in Luxor, the Mausoleum of Hadrian and the Mausoleum of Augustus in Rome. Let's destroy Qin Shi Huangdi's tomb in Xi'an.

                  Repeat ...
                  1. +7
                    14 September 2020 21: 27
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    Repeat ...

                    And he does the right thing. We must remember that we cannot fight against monuments and history. We are the heirs of the Great People and the Great Country. We are deliberately made consumers and pitched on the topic of history, so that it would be easier to manage us. Those who praise the tsarist times and scold the Soviet are playing into the hands of our enemies.
                2. +7
                  14 September 2020 21: 26
                  Quote: Alexander1971
                  Let's blow it up then

                  Indeed, let's blow it up. What a fig, we need these monuments of the distant past. We will study history from Hollywood films, oh, something has taken me to the wrong place. feel
                  You must love the history of your people and state. It is not necessary to denigrate her, but to be proud of her. hi
            5. -1
              12 September 2020 19: 28
              "Political dead", Don't worry - this "political dead" will outlive you and me with fanfare and will remain in the history of not only Russia but also the world as the strongest and brightest politician of the early 21st century.
          4. +17
            12 September 2020 11: 12
            In every church there are bones of the dead, to which people come to pray. Not only that, the skeletons are torn apart and shared with other churches. To whom the finger, to whom the head. How do you feel about this, maybe you should bury everyone?
            1. +18
              12 September 2020 12: 09
              According to the defilers, these are "those who are needed", "remains".
            2. -1
              13 September 2020 11: 44
              And they will be buried over time, do not worry.
          5. 0
            12 September 2020 11: 49
            Krupskaya wanted to bury him humanly, and he himself would not have been delighted if he had learned that after his death he would be gutted, embalmed, “bathed” in chemistry every year. You can worship a great era at the grave of Ilyich. Pay tribute, etc. mummies are devilry. When we were accepted as pioneers, in 87, we were taken to the mausoleum. The impressions, I can tell you, are rather negative.
          6. +7
            12 September 2020 15: 42
            Aristarkh Ludwigovich, Lenin's Mausoleum is the shrine of the communist religion. After all, you do not doubt that the communist ideology is a kind of idealistic mental construction?
            I'm an atheist. I am an opponent of the communist worldview, because it is religious. But, I am also opposed to destroying the temples of certain religions. Or, if the Lenin Mausoleum is destroyed, what is better than the temples of other religions? They are not better. Then destroy them too. But then there will be few historical monuments for posterity.
            After all, you do not believe in the gods of Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece? Or do you think that ancient temples should also be destroyed?
            My opinion is not to destroy any temples, despite the fact that all religions, including the communist one, are deceitful.
          7. -4
            12 September 2020 16: 57
            I agree with you. You can organize a copy of Lenin's office with a wax copy. Or something like that ... And bury Vladimir Ilyich, finally next to Comrade. Stalin.
          8. +3
            13 September 2020 01: 17
            In my opinion, Lenin should be reburied at the Kremlin wall or next to relatives, and the Mausoleum should be left as a monument to the era.

            Either degenerates or aristocrats who are shaking for their grandmothers strive to blur out the name of Lenin. Go get drunk already
            1. +8
              14 September 2020 21: 47
              Quote: Angelo Provolone
              degenerates, or aristocrats who are shaking for their grandmother

              They are shaking not only for their grandmother. They still want to return the beginning of the 19th century and strive for it.
          9. 0
            14 September 2020 02: 03
            I agree with you, AL. As a last resort, the body can be replaced with a 3D model and not necessarily in the form of a deceased. It is unlikely that any of the members of the forum would like to spend 100 years in the form of a mummy in public. I am taken aback by such a thought
        2. +24
          12 September 2020 11: 07
          Contestants are invited to transform the mausoleum into a branch of the Museum of Russian Architecture.

          So I think it is possible to transform Yeltsin's library into a museum of Russian architecture.
          1. -1
            12 September 2020 17: 40
            Quote: figvam
            Contestants are invited to transform the mausoleum into a branch of the Museum of Russian Architecture.

            So I think it is possible to transform Yeltsin's library into a museum of Russian architecture.

            Do not blaspheme science,
            Yeltsin's library
            this is still that "monument" if they burn her, no one will cry, that's for sure ...
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          1. +15
            12 September 2020 11: 34
            The mausoleum on Red Square for the new masters of life is about some kind of unbearable torment ... This state is best reflected by the term Butthurt ...
            1. +7
              12 September 2020 12: 16
              In general, it is surprising that the capital was not transferred to St. Petersburg as yet under the tsars.
              1. +6
                14 September 2020 21: 27
                This option is also possible in the future. wink
            2. -13
              12 September 2020 13: 13
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              The mausoleum on Red Square for the new masters of life is about some kind of unbearable torment ... This state is best reflected by the term Butthurt ...

              The mausoleum does not bother them, but the stinking corpse lying there bothers very much and not only for them. You that, and let all the fighters go for Lenin to lie there, take on the costs of his maintenance and care.
              Well, Che, everything is fair. You need it, so finance it. And at the same time, put your relatives in the mausoleums ... yeah.
              1. -2
                12 September 2020 14: 31
                Quote: NEXUS
                Well, Che, everything is fair. You need it, so finance it. And at the same time, put your relatives in the mausoleums ... yeah.

                I put a plus, but I disagree. But people are buried according to Orthodox traditions.
              2. +3
                12 September 2020 15: 52
                I hate communists. But if you want to eliminate Lenin's Mausoleum, then recognize the destruction of all the tombs of those people whom the communists cannot tolerate is just. As a result, it turns out that the entire heritage of mankind will turn out to be at least someone, but hated. And this will mean the destruction of everything I am all. For example, I don't like people at all. I like animals. I would, if I had the opportunity, would bring the world to an atomic war. And of the people I would leave only their own children, and a harem of women 200 - 300 pieces, in order to be forced to have them in all sorts of poses. And this, in my opinion, is quite enough to leave humanity not on Earth.
                1. -4
                  12 September 2020 17: 45
                  Quote: Alexander1971
                  I would, if I had the opportunity, would bring the world to an atomic war. And of the people I would leave only my own children, yes harem bab 200 - 300 pieces, in order to be forced to have them in all sorts of poses. And this, in my opinion, is quite enough to leave humanity not on Earth.

                  A good idea, I even envied ... if you do not cope with "your" harem, you can count on me ...
                  1. 0
                    12 September 2020 18: 41
                    OK! Agreed!
                    On D-Day, join me with your harem! drinks bully
                    1. -5
                      12 September 2020 18: 50
                      Quote: Alexander1971
                      OK! Agreed!
                      On D-Day, join me with your harem! drinks bully

                      If I have
                      harem bab 200 - 300 pieces
                      What the hell do I need you for ...? Then you better go in line to the Mausoleum, take ...
                      1. 0
                        12 September 2020 18: 56
                        Yes, to change women.
                        Tell yours: "Goodbye!", "I fell in love with another harem!"
          2. +6
            12 September 2020 12: 51
            Who has the same point blazing ...

            Blazes strongly ...
            1. +2
              12 September 2020 14: 29
              Quote: Angelo Provolone
              Blazes strongly ..

              Strong, but how many opponents of this, you can see by your minuses. And I'm scared.
        4. +20
          12 September 2020 12: 13
          Right. The mausoleum must be left alone. But the Yeltsin Center will be closed and the building will find a more suitable appointment without losing staff jobs.
          1. +8
            12 September 2020 12: 20
            Quote: 4ekist
            But the Yeltsin Center will be closed and the building will find a more suitable appointment without losing staff jobs.

            But there is no need to be like these freaks. But what needs to be done is to deprive the Center of Public Funding .......
          2. -1
            12 September 2020 17: 50
            Quote: 4ekist
            The mausoleum must be left alone.

            Yes, no one bothers him, what the communists are yelling about, I don't know ... and the article is some kind of provocative ...
            But the Yeltsin Center will be closed and the building will find a more suitable appointment without losing staff jobs.

            Definitely. Change the name to the regional children's or scientific and technical (the Ural industrial district has not gone anywhere) library ...
            1. +3
              12 September 2020 18: 39
              I agree. The article is pure provocation. We launched a "duck" to find out the opinion and attitude of the masses. We have already gone through this.
              1. +7
                14 September 2020 21: 28
                Quote: 4ekist
                We launched a "duck" to find out the opinion and attitude of the masses

                And those who launched the "duck" now know that the civil war in the country is not over.
          3. 0
            12 September 2020 19: 50
            And the Mausoleum will be altered and the Yeltsin Center will be altered the same - be patient, everything will be.
        5. +1
          12 September 2020 14: 47
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          Leave alone the Mausoleum

          At the moment, the link is only a 404 page, i.e., there is no such competition.
        6. +11
          12 September 2020 16: 43
          Yes. I treat Lenin as a person, and polit. the figure is not very good. Rather, I am a Stalinist. But do not touch our history and crap on it. I was only glad when we in Ryazan restored a monument to Lenin on Lenin Square (of course), otherwise they put up some kind of oak cross ... For crosses there is the Ryazan Kremlin with cathedrals. And of course, it is puzzling (to put it mildly) that the Mausoleum is covered with plywood for special events, some kind of nonsense.
          1. -2
            12 September 2020 17: 54
            Quote: PalBor
            I was only glad when a monument to Lenin on Lenin Square was restored in Ryazan (naturally), otherwise they put up some kind of oak cross ...

            Yes, one of your "bombed" me a story ... told me that the former governor or mayor of Ryazan (I don't remember), who was removed by the former political instructor, I don't know whether he lied or not ...
            1. +4
              12 September 2020 19: 08
              Well, almost. He taught the history of the party and scientific communism at the military school. Just kicked back after seven years for embezzlement. Democrat...
              1. -1
                12 September 2020 19: 15
                Quote: PalBor
                Well, almost. He taught the history of the party and scientific communism at the military school. Just kicked back after seven years for embezzlement. Democrat...

                Volodya is in a good place, if you go to the Post Office analogue of the Moscow Arbat ... I often drank there ... I went on a business trip to Ryazan for two years ... the Airborne Forces Museum is relatively close ... I recommend everyone to go ...
        7. +7
          12 September 2020 17: 12
          A competition has been announced in Russia for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum "Without Lenin"
          Crap. Competition for the best concept of further use of the Yeltsin Center has been announced in Russia.That's better.
        8. -2
          12 September 2020 19: 17
          The burial of Lenin was inevitable - the time had come and he would retire.
        9. -1
          12 September 2020 19: 54
          why are you so worried? Nobody is going to destroy the mausoleum. Now Vladimir Ilyich is definitely time for rest. Enough to experiment with it and put it on public view as an exhibit in the Cabinet of Curiosities.
        10. +14
          13 September 2020 22: 53
          Lenin's Mausoleum and the necropolis at the Kremlin Wall were included in 1990 in the UNESCO World Cultural Heritage List. In 1995, they received the status of objects of historical and cultural heritage of federal significance.
        11. +8
          14 September 2020 20: 52
          Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
          Hands off!

          Apparently they want to annoy people once again. The country has no more problems.
      2. +14
        12 September 2020 10: 45
        The competition was announced by the Union of Architects of Russia, according to the organization's website.

        Does the government know about this? Not to mention the people!
        1. +2
          12 September 2020 11: 39
          Does the government know about this? Not to mention the people!

          No, the competition was announced secretly from everyone, including from its participants, VO learned about this with the help of regular psychics, but VO is just one exception, everyone else is not aware.
        2. +6
          12 September 2020 11: 52
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          The competition was announced by the Union of Architects of Russia, according to the organization's website.

          Does the government know about this? Not to mention the people!

          In response, a popular competition can be announced for the best concept for the further use of the Union of Architects of Russia. For the initiators of the crap around the mausoleum - a separate nomination.
          1. -1
            12 September 2020 17: 59
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            For the initiators of the crap around the mausoleum - a separate nomination.

            Prize to the laureates - gratitude from the veterans of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union with the entry into the chest ...
          2. +7
            14 September 2020 21: 29
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            a popular competition can be announced

            Why not ... Good idea!
      3. +22
        12 September 2020 10: 45
        Competition for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum announced in Russia

        I even guess who the customer is ...

        They can't wait to finish everything, everything connected with the USSR out of anger .. Because the level of its technologies and social sphere cannot be reached until now ..
        1. +14
          12 September 2020 10: 47
          Quote: turist
          I even guess who the customer is ...

          Is Chubais preparing a mausoleum for himself? belay
          1. +33
            12 September 2020 10: 50
            Let them dig this in the ebncenter, there it belongs.
            1. +19
              12 September 2020 11: 07
              Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
              Let them dig this in the ebncenter, there it belongs.

              There is enough room for everyone ...
              1. +22
                12 September 2020 11: 54
                There is enough room for everyone ...

                "The family is big ..." (C)
            2. Alf
              +22
              12 September 2020 11: 12
              Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
              Let them dig this in the ebncenter, there it belongs.

              Alive.
              1. +19
                12 September 2020 11: 52
                hi In friends company". And the faster the better.
              2. -1
                12 September 2020 18: 02
                Quote: Alf
                Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
                Let them dig this in the ebncenter, there it belongs.

                Alive.

                But what, in a glass coffin ...
            3. +11
              12 September 2020 11: 59
              Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
              Let them dig this in the ebncenter, there it belongs.

              And after that, the ebncenter will be razed to the ground
              and arrange a dog walking area.
          2. +2
            12 September 2020 10: 56
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: turist
            I even guess who the customer is ...

            Is Chubais preparing a mausoleum for himself? belay
            Or how fashionable a high-rise building is now. Well, what. The most prestigious place. Well, the mausoleum is on the ground floor. Like a school of creativity or what it is fashionable to sculpt high-rise buildings over in the central parts of our cities. wassat laughing
          3. +3
            12 September 2020 11: 33
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: turist
            I even guess who the customer is ...

            Is Chubais preparing a mausoleum for himself? belay

            Hardly, but the title of the murderer of Russia, dreams about it, not in vain as a tick sucked
          4. -3
            12 September 2020 18: 00
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: turist
            I even guess who the customer is ...

            Is Chubais preparing a mausoleum for himself? belay

            Do you think there will be queues to his Mausoleum from among his fans?
        2. +2
          12 September 2020 11: 07
          Quote: turist
          I even guess who the customer is ...

          "Overton windows" in operation, the first window "Unthinkable" - a certain public opinion is created, then the "Radical", "Acceptable" windows and on the sixth window "State Norm" everything will be decided. Since they promoted suffrage and LGBT people. Whose job is everyone guessing. Disgusting and disgusting.
          1. +2
            12 September 2020 11: 36
            Quote: tihonmarine
            "Overton windows" in operation, the first window "Unthinkable" - a certain public opinion is created, then the "Radical", "Acceptable" windows and on the sixth window "State Norm" everything will be decided. Since they promoted suffrage and LGBT people. Whose job is everyone guessing. Disgusting and disgusting.

            Disgusting, I even know how they will decorate the Mausoleum if they come to power and what they will arrange on Red Square .. hi The public is already preparing and this is alarming
            1. +1
              12 September 2020 13: 42
              Quote: turist
              Disgusting, I even know how they will decorate the Mausoleum if they come to power and what they will arrange on Red Square ..

              That's right, they are still talking, and God forbid they come to power. But this cannot be ruled out, we took it well. Scheise.
            2. +2
              12 September 2020 14: 25
              Quote: turist
              Disgusting, I even know how they will decorate the Mausoleum if they come to power and what they will arrange on Red Square .. The public is already preparing and this is alarming

              I am writing about that, all according to the "Methodical". or "Checklist".
            3. +2
              12 September 2020 16: 03
              Quote: turist
              Disgusting, I even know how they will decorate the Mausoleum if they come to power and what they will arrange on Red Square ..

              I'm talking about that and say "Disgusting" and the more that it
              competition for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum "without Lenin"
              And the "concept" is scary to think about. For my words about rejection, I'm out of 15, got 8 minuses. Where are we going !!! What happened to the people ???
          2. +6
            12 September 2020 11: 41
            Since they promoted suffrage and LGBT people. Whose job is everyone guessing

            I don’t guess, but I’m even afraid to ask, are they really Reptilians?
            1. -1
              12 September 2020 13: 44
              Quote: alexmach
              I don’t guess, but I’m even afraid to ask, are they really Reptilians?

              Stop thinking about cancer. Of course they are "sorry".
              1. -1
                12 September 2020 13: 58
                Of course they are "sorry".

                I can still imagine it somehow about LGBT people, but about the suffragists? They are older than Soros himself. No, the doctor said to the Reptilians, he said to the Reptilians ... Well, here's one more catch, why did they decide to do something useful for us ... You don't think the movement of suffragettes is harmful, do you?
                1. 0
                  12 September 2020 14: 37
                  Quote: alexmach
                  I can still imagine it somehow about LGBT people, but about the suffragists? They are older than Soros himself.

                  What are suffragists, what are Sorras, what are they better? They have one idea, to push through the "impossible". Pushed through. You can also push through all the "impossible". I'm wrong ? Minus. I'm right to keep quiet.
                  1. +2
                    12 September 2020 15: 54
                    What are suffragists, what are Sorras, what are they better? They have one idea, push through the "impossible"

                    What is still impossible? Suffragettes actually fought for fundamental rights for women. Moreover, they only tried to bring the legal position in accordance with the actual changes that had already occurred. And their victory is a real achievement in the humanitarian development of mankind. You have dragged them out of place at all. Still minus.
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                    2. 0
                      12 September 2020 16: 51
                      Quote: alexmach
                      What else is impossible?
                      In the eighties: the main function of a woman was to take care of children and keep the family hearth. At the moment: a woman needs to self-actualize in her career or personally. And most men react positively to these processes. Everything from the "impossible" has become the "state norm". In 1991, only 5% of public transport drivers were women, now 40%, so from the impossible became possible. As well as LGBT people as well. The scheme is simple

                      And from many "impossible" became "possible". If you do not agree, explain, at least from the "impossible" in the 19th century to the middle of the 20th century, the LGBT movement, and the "possible" in the 21st century.
                      1. 0
                        12 September 2020 23: 03
                        In the eighties: the main function of a woman was to take care of children and keep the family hearth.

                        In the eighties of what century then? Okstite dear, even my grandmother, who in the 80s had already retired, was engaged, as you put it, in self-realization in a career.
                        And most men react positively to these processes.

                        And my grandfather whom I did not find, according to my grandmother, helped her in everything, for example, he shared her homework with her, and at the same time he was also not very sour career realized.
                        And women worked on an equal footing with men back in the 80s of the 19th century .... and not only 19. And they were forced to do it not by some reptilian sorosity and not even suffragettes, but by the objective processes of the development of industrial production.
          3. +4
            12 September 2020 15: 57
            Lenin's Mausoleum, regardless of whether we give a negative or positive assessment to Lenin, is one of the greatest modern monuments in Russia, dedicated to a significant historical period in Russia. Probably even the greatest, despite its small size. Besides, it is the center of religion, even if I do not believe in religion.
            I am an atheist, I am an anti-communist. I believe that monuments cannot be destroyed. Otherwise, let's destroy all churches, not just communist ones.
            1. +2
              12 September 2020 17: 04
              Quote: Alexander1971
              I am an atheist, I am an anti-communist. I believe that monuments cannot be destroyed. Otherwise, let's destroy all churches, not just communist ones.

              Although you are an anti-communist and for monuments, by the way I am for all monuments, they are the history of the country. But why are monuments being demolished in the United States and everyone is silent? How will it be in your opinion?
              1. +2
                12 September 2020 17: 23
                In the United States, there is a process of impoverishment of the lower strata of society, both whites, former middle ones, and blacks. These protesters vent their anger at the hallucinations and chimeras in the form of monuments, instead of seeing the root of their impoverishment. And America's upper class maintains this belief in chimeras of racism because they are powerless to remedy the situation.

                And the root is that production is being transferred to countries with lower production costs and with a disciplined, educated workforce.

                The world economy is striving for evenness. Therefore, Asia will gradually grow richer, and Europe and North America will grow poorer, until in these regions there will be relative equality in production costs. Now in the United States, GDP per capita is about 60 thousand dollars, and in the PRC it is about 10 thousand dollars. But the moment will come when the GDP per capita in the PRC will approach the American one. And this will happen due to the transfer of production from the United States to the PRC (despite all the antics and sanctions of the United States), and due to a decrease in production and an increase in unemployment in the United States.
                The current protesters in the United States do not have the ability to beat the PRC. It remains to arrange pogroms of Asian shops and destroy monuments to the Confederates during the Civil War.

                The Muslim East, Latin America and Africa are not included in the relocation process due to poor quality labor.
              2. +7
                14 September 2020 21: 32
                Quote: tihonmarine
                why are monuments being demolished in the USA, and everyone is silent

                It's just that everyone rejoices in silence and wants them to move from monuments to the demolition of their state. Yes
            2. -1
              12 September 2020 18: 08
              Quote: Alexander1971
              Lenin's Mausoleum, regardless of whether we give a negative or positive assessment to Lenin, is one of the greatest modern monuments in Russia, dedicated to a significant historical period in Russia.

              I will correct you opus ...
              Lenin's Mausoleum, regardless of whether we give a negative or positive assessment to Lenin, is one of the greatest modern monuments in Russia, dedicated to a significant historical and tragic period of Russia. [
              1. 0
                12 September 2020 18: 45
                I agree with you.

                It would be better if there were neither Lenin nor the October Revolution. But since this was, and there were monuments to this, then the monuments, as well as the memory, cannot be destroyed.
                1. 0
                  12 September 2020 18: 52
                  Quote: Alexander1971
                  I agree with you.

                  It would be better if there were neither Lenin nor the October Revolution. But since this was, and there were monuments to this, then the monuments, as well as the memory, cannot be destroyed.

                  Who is destroying your Mausoleum? Surely he is an architectural monument and they will put any "architect" behind him ...
        3. +1
          12 September 2020 14: 27
          Quote: turist
          They can't wait to finish everything, everything connected with the USSR from anger.

          For the West, socialism is not anger, but death.
          1. +1
            12 September 2020 17: 26
            You, tihonmarine (Vlad), are wrong. There is already more socialism in Western Europe than in Russia. Socialism is the redistribution of the surplus product from producers to idlers. This will destroy Western Europe. And the USA, where there is much less socialism, will hold out longer.
            1. 0
              12 September 2020 17: 46
              Quote: Alexander1971
              Socialism is the redistribution of the surplus product from producers to idlers
              Capitalism is an economic system of production and distribution based on private property, legal equality and free enterprise. The main criterion for making economic decisions is the desire to increase capital, to make a profit. And this has not been canceled in the west.
            2. +7
              14 September 2020 21: 33
              Quote: Alexander1971
              There is already more socialism in Western Europe

              There is no socialism there. Their social structure of the country is better than ours.
        4. +7
          14 September 2020 21: 29
          Quote: turist
          I even guess who the customer is ...

          Again, the "redhead" is trying to translate his crazy ideas into reality am
    2. +7
      12 September 2020 10: 43
      Participants of the competition are invited to develop a draft design for the use of the mausoleum building as a museum of the history of design and construction of all three versions of the mausoleum - plywood, wood and granite, as well as to think over a route connecting the Museum of Russian Architecture and the mausoleum.

      Wild idea
      1. +1
        12 September 2020 11: 00
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Wild idea

        using the Mausoleum "without Lenin"
        And how is this to be understood?
        1. -2
          12 September 2020 11: 02
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          And how is this to be understood?

          Not better
        2. +5
          12 September 2020 11: 11
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          And how is this to be understood?

          So understand "WITHOUT". They still write in disguise, but then they will write openly. And the Russian land carries such.
        3. +11
          12 September 2020 12: 04
          To understand that the Mausoleum acts on the gentlemen of the Democrats, like holy water on vampires.
          1. +4
            12 September 2020 12: 22
            Exactly....
          2. +4
            12 September 2020 14: 20
            Quote: Reserve officer
            To understand that the Mausoleum acts on the gentlemen of the Democrats, like holy water on vampires.

            Or an aspen stake for vampires.
      2. +12
        12 September 2020 11: 09
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Wild idea

        The dream of capitalism from the beginning of the 20th century. They are even afraid of the dead Lenin.
        1. +2
          12 September 2020 11: 12
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The dream of capitalism from the beginning of the 20th century.

          Yes, let them dream
          1. +2
            12 September 2020 13: 40
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Yes, let them dream

            This is not a dream, for them it is an act.
            1. +2
              12 September 2020 13: 53
              Quote: tihonmarine
              This is not a dream, for them it is an act.

              Well, I hope it won't come to the point
        2. +5
          12 September 2020 11: 55
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Wild idea

          The dream of capitalism from the beginning of the 20th century. They are even afraid of the dead Lenin.

          They are afraid of Vlad, even to the point of falling hysteria. negative
          Eat pineapples, chew grouse, but your last day comes bourgeois .. With capitalism and freedom (in the United States), we in Russia are already sated to the very end!

          Wait for the bastard ...
          1. +1
            12 September 2020 13: 46
            Quote: turist
            They are afraid of Vlad and up to falling hysteria

            For these .... the idea of ​​socialism is the death of capitalism.
      3. +3
        12 September 2020 14: 22
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Wild idea

        For us, yes, a "wild idea", but for them the idea of ​​extending the life of capitalism.
    3. +5
      12 September 2020 10: 43
      And Lenin, Lenin where ???? This is not casual!
      1. -12
        12 September 2020 10: 56
        In flood ... in a hut! wink
        1. +3
          12 September 2020 11: 39
          Well, what ... we'll take it! If our capital has already completely lost its conscience ...
          Siberians don't waste their time on trifles ...
          And this is by no means a trifle!
          1. -4
            12 September 2020 18: 13
            Quote: Masha
            Well, what ... we'll take it! If our capital has already completely lost its conscience ...

            What are you talking about, in
            our capital
            90% of non-Muscovites .... open your mouth to all the CIS ...?
        2. 0
          12 September 2020 11: 44
          MARUS. The place is already taken there. Savvy entrepreneurs founded a restaurant called Shalash. It used to be popular with the Chinese, who were brought there in droves.
          1. +1
            12 September 2020 11: 53
            Yes bullshit ... let's move! love
        3. -1
          12 September 2020 17: 14
          Judging by the cons ..... then talk about what ??? Save the mausoleum! We can't understand Moscow people ........
        4. -2
          12 September 2020 18: 11
          Quote: Russia
          In flood ... in a hut! wink

          just in ... spill ...
      2. +15
        12 September 2020 11: 24
        And Lenin, Lenin where ???? This is not casual!
        ... Since the 90s, such a bike has been going around, they say, if Lenin is reburied, grace will rise to Russia and an economic miracle will occur. Apparently, the government, through the Union of Architects, decided to check .. But what if it works out? laughing
        1. +6
          12 September 2020 11: 42
          Yes, all kinds of lies and delirium were invented by the criminals to justify the capture of the USSR for criminal purposes and their crimes after the capture, including the fact that they squealed in the 90s "everything in Russia is so bad because it is Lenin in the Mausoleum hurts Russia with its bad aura. "
        2. +15
          12 September 2020 12: 12
          What if it works out?

          hi On a sinking ship, rats are always looking for a saving straw. First.
        3. +6
          12 September 2020 13: 29
          Quote: parusnik
          And Lenin, Lenin where ???? This is not casual!
          ... Since the 90s, such a bike has been going around, they say, if Lenin is reburied, grace will rise to Russia and an economic miracle will occur. Apparently, the government, through the Union of Architects, decided to check .. But what if it works out? laughing

          You see, Alexey! This story can be called a superstitious or magical statement .. The result is not logically related to the action. For some reason, no one was indignant at this, precisely as a superstition. Or magic. Then, maybe we need to spread another slogan - about the destruction of the Yeltsin center? Or what other options. If you rely on superstition and magic, then the rest!
          1. +7
            12 September 2020 15: 55
            hi Greetings. With the help of magic, they usually hope for a miracle. So in Russia, they conjure, conjure, but a miracle does not happen.
            1. +7
              12 September 2020 16: 17
              Quote: parusnik
              hi Greetings. With the help of magic, they usually hope for a miracle. So in Russia, they conjure, conjure, but a miracle does not happen.

              I remember that in the late 80s and 90s, a lot of sorcerers appeared. Have disappeared now, or have been hiding
              Penetrated into all spheres of life, imposing a way of thinking?
              1. +11
                12 September 2020 16: 52
                "Religion is the opium of the people." (C) Karl Marx

                Dear Dmitry, hello! hi See what sabbath the "believers" have rolled. The "native of Trier" was right. winked

                Have disappeared now, or have been hiding
                Penetrated into all spheres of life, imposing a way of thinking?

                Not otherwise, they "changed their shoes" in robes. I had an acquaintance - forgive everyone ... in the neighborhood I knew. Then he became an "excellent student" in the theological seminary. Got clear? No! But he received the "arrival". lol
                1. +4
                  12 September 2020 17: 13
                  Hello dear hi ! Somehow it is not a shame for educated people to proclaim superstition in all seriousness! The wailing wall was built, the White Czechs, the enemy military leaders ....... So what? Has life become better? It's time to break. Experiments have failed
              2. +8
                14 September 2020 21: 34
                Quote: Reptiloid
                I remember that in the late 80s and 90s, a lot of sorcerers appeared. Are gone now

                Nope, they turned to astrologers, and switched to home reception Yes
                1. +1
                  14 September 2020 21: 42
                  Quote: TriA
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  I remember that in the late 80s and 90s, a lot of sorcerers appeared. Are gone now

                  Nope, they turned to astrologers, and switched to home reception Yes

                  Somehow I doubt the earnings of astrologers! Now everyone can predict everything from the newspaper, where the forecast is printed ...
        4. +7
          14 September 2020 21: 34
          Quote: parusnik
          This bike has been around since the 90s

          I remember a year like 1992, on TV they showed a report that some psychics held a seance, during which the idea of ​​Lenin's burial came to light in connection with the fact that grace will rise on Russia and an economic miracle will occur. This is where this bike started.
    4. +11
      12 September 2020 10: 43
      Competition for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum announced in Russia
      There are no other worries, just in two years, Russians are disturbed by the fate of Lenin's body and by the mausoleum itself. Leave this "idea" alone. This is part of the history of the country. And there will be enough disgrace when, during parades on Red Square, the mausoleum is decorated with any garbage. And it’s incomprehensible whether we are proud of our history or shy.
      1. +13
        12 September 2020 10: 55
        We are so proudly shy! feel
        1. +13
          12 September 2020 11: 10
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          We are so proudly shy!

          This is not shyness, but duplicity. This part of the story suits us, this one needs to be draped, here - the herring was cut ...
        2. +3
          12 September 2020 12: 10
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          We are so proudly shy!

          We bend so proudly.
          The first drapery was a condition of the President's presence at the Victory Parade.
          The presidents took that parade while sitting!
        3. +4
          12 September 2020 13: 37
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          We are so proudly shy! feel

          This must be changed, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! You won't be able to sit on 2 chairs, or walk in 2 opposite directions.
          1. +5
            12 September 2020 13: 55
            Quote: Reptiloid
            We need to change it

            And it is changing, towards decommunization!
            1. +5
              12 September 2020 14: 04
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              Quote: Reptiloid
              We need to change it

              And it is changing, towards decommunization!

              These are very bad changes. It is also bad that they were in a hurry. The more time passes, the more hatred for the socialist past, it turns out. Just as Khrushchev began to fight with the deceased Stalin, now they are fighting both Stalin and Lenin.
              1. +6
                12 September 2020 14: 11
                Quote: Reptiloid
                now they are at war with both Stalin and Lenin.

                They are at war with the entire Soviet past
                1. +5
                  12 September 2020 14: 39
                  Quote: Uncle Lee
                  .... are at war with the entire Soviet past
                  Churchill said that Khrushchev lost to Stalin. Likewise, the fighters will lose to the Soviet past.
                  1. +12
                    12 September 2020 16: 58
                    Likewise, the fighters will lose to the Soviet past.

                    Therefore, they are in a hurry to exterminate us all. For only they know how to fight with corpses.
                    1. +2
                      12 September 2020 18: 34
                      The actions of the leadership should not be based on an invented ritual, on superstition. It turns out! there is no need to train or educate specialists, or to build anything, but everything will be done by itself.
                    2. +1
                      12 September 2020 19: 52
                      You will die out anyway, so it's a waste of time to fight with you.
      2. -1
        12 September 2020 11: 14
        Quote: Observer2014
        Leave this "idea" alone. This is part of the country's history.

        Well, adherents of the West and the "Soros" cannot leave this idea. You yourself have been observing the animal howl for two weeks, not only among the races, but also in the west. And who is "he" and who is Lenin.
      3. 0
        12 September 2020 12: 33
        Quote: Observer2014
        There are no other worries, just in two years, Russians are disturbed by the fate of Lenin's body and the mausoleum itself. Leave this "idea" alone. This is part of the country's history.

        Don't you notice that it is being methodically rewritten to please the ruling class? So we got to Lenin. Apparently they sensed the strength, because the army of the "Kolenek from the Bundestag" has already riveted.
      4. -10
        12 September 2020 13: 52
        Quote: Observer2014
        once every two years, Russians are thrilled with the fate of Lenin's body and the mausoleum itself.

        The mausoleum, as an architectural masterpiece, is not going anywhere. It is the same landmark of Red Square as St. Basil's Cathedral.
        But the corpse in it, that's another matter. The first question is, according to what laws does it lie there? According to pagan, or maybe according to Indian? What is the religion in our country (for the most part)? Not Orthodoxy, no?
        Now about history and pride in it. So you have to be consistent. If we are proud of our history and honor it, then why are we so disowned today from the scoop, and all the more we do not want its revival?
        Or is our memory selective?
      5. -2
        12 September 2020 18: 16
        Quote: Observer2014
        Competition for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum announced in Russia
        There are no other worries, just in two years, Russians are disturbed by the fate of Lenin's body and by the mausoleum itself. Leave this "idea" alone. This is part of the history of the country. And there will be enough disgrace when, during parades on Red Square, the mausoleum is decorated with any garbage. And it’s incomprehensible whether we are proud of our history or shy.

        Rather, we are embarrassed in what other country parades, festivals, concerts are held at the cemetery ...
    5. +2
      12 September 2020 10: 44
      An interesting problem statement for an architectural competition.
      1. +7
        14 September 2020 21: 35
        Quote: Iris
        An interesting problem statement for an architectural competition.

        The usual provocation.
        1. 0
          14 September 2020 21: 55
          In my subjective opinion, the task was set architecturally - this is evident from the task, which does not imply either the demolition or reconstruction of the Mausoleum. I think the authors did not expect such an intensity of passion about the competition. Although, of course, such a reaction to the competition with the status of the All-Russian, not limited, moreover, by the framework of the professional community, was expected.
    6. +5
      12 September 2020 10: 44
      In Russia, the competition was announced, what to do with the Mausoleum ... Even if all of Siberia with the Far East says: "Lenin will be there!" - Moscow alone will win by votes ...
      1. +7
        14 September 2020 21: 36
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        Moscow will win by one vote

        This means that Moscow will be deprived of the right to vote (a joke, although in every joke ...) wassat
    7. +20
      12 September 2020 10: 44
      The Union of Architects of Russia announced a competition ... I am embarrassed to ask who authorized this "union"?
      Sheer nonsense, as long as Lenin's body is there - to announce any competitions is simply incredible Stupidity!
      Actually, how to mask the mausoleum with all kinds of decorations during parades ...
      1. +5
        12 September 2020 10: 57
        Quote: Hunter 2
        The Union of Architects of Russia announced a competition ... I hesitate to ask who authorized this "union"

        Along the way, he appointed himself, you see, big people hinted, maybe this "union" can do the re-use of the White House, well, or the pyramids of Cheops, where there are a lot of plans!
      2. +8
        12 September 2020 11: 09
        The Union of Architects of Russia announced a competition for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum "without Lenin"

        Why not announce a counter competition - the Union of Architects of Russia without provocateurs and distortions of history?
        1. +11
          14 September 2020 21: 59
          Quote: Rich
          Union of Architects of Russia without provocateurs and distortions of history

          good We need to think about the issue of placing this initiative on the change.org platform laughing
      3. +3
        12 September 2020 11: 15
        Quote: Hunter 2
        The Union of Architects of Russia announced a competition ... I am embarrassed to ask who authorized this "union"?

        Soros & Co.
        1. +12
          14 September 2020 21: 59
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Soros & Co.

          This Soros shits everything and shits everyone ...
      4. Alf
        +9
        12 September 2020 11: 25
        Quote: Hunter 2
        The Union of Architects of Russia announced a competition ... I am embarrassed to ask who authorized this "union"?

        Routine check for future changes.
        1. -2
          12 September 2020 11: 28
          Quote: Alf

          Routine check for future changes.

          I do not agree ... in my opinion - this is a cheap provocation! The only question is, who needs it? As if without it there are not enough problems.
      5. +2
        12 September 2020 12: 17
        Quote: Hunter 2
        to announce any contests is just incredible Stupidity!

        Worse. This is an idea competition for burying reminders of socialism.
        Ideology and not smelling like architecture.
        1. +11
          14 September 2020 22: 00
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          Ideology and not smelling like architecture.

          This is a provocation aimed at disrupting society
      6. +12
        14 September 2020 21: 58
        Quote: Hunter 2
        embarrassed to ask, who authorized this "union"?

        They appointed themselves. So we decided to ask for funding Yes
    8. +11
      12 September 2020 10: 48
      the project is intended to collect the maximum number of architectural ideas, no matter how ambiguous they may be Gentlemen play in ambiguity, under-thought, under-production. But this is in vain, the one who lies there just did everything unambiguously. Better to practice at the Yeltsin Center. A lot of architectural ideas immediately suggests itself. I’m not an architect and I can’t think of anything but a bottle rolled into a bundle. Alas.
      1. +14
        12 September 2020 10: 57
        Then, based on the results of these competitions, they will begin to form the idea of ​​taking Lenin out of the Mausoleum, they will say that the projects are ready and people are ready for it. Soft decommunization continues.
        1. +5
          12 September 2020 11: 14
          Quote: Arthur73
          Then, based on the results of these competitions, they will begin to form the idea of ​​taking Lenin out of the Mausoleum

          Based on the results of this competition, it is possible to form lists of evictions from Moscow and the Moscow region ... There, Far Eastern hectares are idle, waiting for cultivation ... lol
        2. +4
          12 September 2020 11: 16
          Quote: Arthur73
          Soft decommunization continues.

          Capitalization continues too.
        3. Alf
          +12
          12 September 2020 11: 26
          Quote: Arthur73
          Soft decommunization continues.

          It is in full swing. The only state program that goes without disruption.
        4. +11
          14 September 2020 22: 03
          Quote: Arthur73
          so the projects are ready and people are for it

          And they will immediately allocate funding ... Someone else and weld on this ...
      2. 0
        12 September 2020 10: 58
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        rolled up bottle

        It means "tied up"! And he poured, which means a bottle, and from the throat it pours and pours ...
        1. +2
          12 September 2020 11: 39
          Vladimir! I propose to announce a competition. A monument in the form of a bottle, and the Royal fountain pours from it. Wasteful, you say. Well no. We will provide a return flow. but with recharge.
          1. +10
            12 September 2020 12: 39
            It's all right ?
    9. -11
      12 September 2020 10: 57
      This place is by nature intended for the final monument to our Victory. It should be a monument to the Headquarters of the Supreme Command and represent a large table with an operational map of the situation at the fronts draped over it; Stalin, Zhukov, Shaposhnikov and other members of the Headquarters should stand around the table. If, as planned, there will be a monument to the reconciliation of the Reds and Whites in the Civil War in front of the building of the Historical Museum, then Red Square will acquire a complete architectural ensemble.
      1. +19
        12 September 2020 11: 04
        There is no reconciliation between reds and whites. The bourgeois cannot make peace with the proletarian in principle. The bourgeois can't stop parasitizing on others? And the working people, too, were sick of it. And the civil war is not over yet - we are just in its still calm phase. But the war will last - until the complete and inevitable victory of socialism, despite the temporary current white counter ..
        1. -3
          12 September 2020 18: 05
          You, paul3390 (Paul), are talking communist nonsense.
          The proletarian is also a bourgeois who sells his own labor on the capitalist market. For labor is also a commodity that has a price and demand. There are simply rich bourgeois and poor, successful bourgeois and not successful.
      2. +5
        12 September 2020 13: 05
        "in front of the building of the Historical Museum, as planned, there will be a monument to the reconciliation of the Reds and Whites in the Civil War."

        And where is this very fitting !?
      3. +1
        12 September 2020 16: 07
        For the sake of one monument, another monument cannot be destroyed.
        I am an atheist, but imagine that instead of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, the Jews would build a monument to Shalom Aleichem. I am not an adherent of the communist religion, but I believe that it is impossible to destroy monuments and churches, regardless of which faith they belong to.
        Or if you want to destroy a communist church, then you need to destroy both Christian and all other churches. After all, Christians destroyed ancient temples.
    10. +16
      12 September 2020 10: 57
      And who authorized this very union of architects to announce the competition?
      And what not to announce a competition for the arrangement of their own cottages for kindergartens?
      1. +6
        12 September 2020 11: 19
        And who authorized this very union of architects to announce the competition?
        .. Do not you guess? laughing
        1. +11
          14 September 2020 22: 04
          Quote: parusnik
          And who authorized this very union of architects to announce the competition?
          .. Do not you guess? laughing

          Above suggested that Chubaisik again laughing
      2. +3
        12 September 2020 16: 08
        It would be necessary to rip off these architects alive, stuff their skins with dung, and put the stuffed animals at the city gates.
    11. +12
      12 September 2020 11: 02
      The destruction of the Soviet legacy will continue ... slowly but surely, the memory of socialism in a bourgeois state is not needed, and there is no one to stop it ...
      1. -8
        12 September 2020 11: 22
        Quote: apro
        do not need a memory of socialism

        laughing laughing laughing
        Nobody needs.
        Even the communists prefer to remember the Stalinist times. Times of victories.
        And not huge queues for vodka, special distributors and electric trains smelling of sausage in the suburbs ...
        1. +5
          12 September 2020 11: 50
          Someone is talking about what, and Lenin's enemies about their parasitism and grub. You are AFRAID to compare the results of your well-paid work after your seizure of Russia for 30 years, even with Brezhnev's "stagnation", because you yourself admit that the results of your "work" are total degradation, impoverishment of Russia, impoverishment and extinction of the Russian people.
          1. 0
            12 September 2020 12: 06
            Quote: tatra
            and Lenin's enemies about their parasitism and grub

            So it was Lenin who came up with special distributors for Ylita, and kilometer lines for hard workers?
            How interesting .... Today is just a day of discovery.

            Quote: tatra
            the results of your "work" are total degradation

            I started working as a schoolboy. A janitor in Siberia, unsuccessfully told his father "I want a tape recorder." I went to school when it was considered a virtue to get away from the army. I did not leave the troops when we were detained for half a year, and we had to earn extra money on the side to support our family. During the whole war I did not lose a single subordinate. And when he quit due to his health (the consequences of an APC being blown up by a mine), in August 2008 my subordinates were also able to do without losses. And having a disability, I was able to raise my business. From scratch, and do not buy and sell. Providing income not only for themselves, but also for their workers. Even small, but created.

            What have you achieved in your life? What is your job"?
            1. -1
              12 September 2020 12: 17
              As the enemies of the communists ALWAYS have no way to adequately respond to my comments, and always cowardly twist in the style of "defending oneself by attacking others." WHAT specifically in my commentary about YOU, the enemies of the communists, did you rush to refute?
              1. -2
                12 September 2020 12: 22
                Quote: tatra
                How the enemies of the communists ALWAYS have no way to adequately respond to my comments

                Are you surprised that in response to your aggression you receive the same in the same place?

                You stated that the result of my work is total degradation.
                I pointed out that this is not the case. And in turn asked you what you yourself have achieved.
                And this question caused hysteria in you. I don't know why laughing laughing laughing
                1. -2
                  12 September 2020 12: 27
                  Ha, here is the answer again in the style of the mentality of the enemies of the communists. To my simple question
                  WHAT specifically in my comment about YOU, the enemies of the communists, did you rush to refute?

                  the answer is again in the style of "defending oneself by attacking others, and the cosmopolitan, selfish, cowardly in the style of" I have nothing to do with it. "
                  1. -2
                    12 September 2020 12: 35
                    Quote: tatra
                    the answer is again in the style of "defending oneself by attacking others, and the cosmopolitan, selfish, cowardly in the style of" I have nothing to do with it. "

                    I'm just the same "and".
                    For he fought, eliminating the consequences of the cowardice of the communists. Which led to the collapse of the USSR.

                    But you never answered. What have you achieved in your life? What is "non-degradation"?
                    1. +1
                      12 September 2020 12: 49
                      Well, again "I". I specially wrote in large letters "YOU", enemies of the communists. Enemies are even parasites in discussions. And this is their crown "and here I am, I have it", about the assessment of the pre-revolutionary, Soviet, post-Soviet periods, this is according to Freud. They have always been rootless cosmopolitans-egoists, they have always lived parallel to their people, and in their anti-Soviet clique there is no community, they hate and betray each other, and they captured the USSR exclusively for THEMSELVES, for their enrichment at the expense of the country and the people, and creation for yourself a comfortable life.
                      1. +5
                        12 September 2020 12: 53
                        Quote: tatra
                        I specially wrote in large letters "YOU", enemies of the communists.

                        In fact, they themselves are the main enemy of the communists. For no one has done more for their own ruin

                        But why did you write me down as "enemies of the communists", for the life of me, I don't understand. I just don't respect them. For the collapse of the USSR, for cowardice, for hypocrisy and lies ...
                        1. -1
                          12 September 2020 13: 00
                          Ha, again everything is in full accordance with the mentality of the enemies of the communists, again "defense through attacks", the above was "and I have nothing to do with it", now it will be "and I am against the communists and for no one."
                          If you now hang up a poll - for what kind of power - Soviet or Yeltsin-Putin, then normal people will answer on the merits of the question - FOR Soviet power, and those who are under this Yeltsin-Putin power "and now are better than under Soviet power" will answer in accordance with their mentality, they will selflessly rush to malice AGAINST Soviet power. That's it, I'm finishing the dialogue with you, you, like all enemies of the communists, are not capable of discussions about the history of your country.
                        2. +1
                          12 September 2020 13: 03
                          Quote: tatra
                          then normal people will answer on the merits of the question - FOR Soviet power

                          For a total deficit? For coupons for everything? For the queue? For interethnic conflicts?
                          Question: who are these "normal" people? Born after the collapse of the USSR?
                        3. -3
                          12 September 2020 22: 30
                          Quote: tatra
                          Ha, again everything is in full accordance with the mentality of the enemies of the communists, again "defense through attacks", the above was "and I have nothing to do with it", now it will be "and I am against the communists and for no one."
                          If you now hang up a poll - for what kind of power - Soviet or Yeltsin-Putin, then normal people will answer on the merits of the question - FOR Soviet power, and those who are under this Yeltsin-Putin power "and now are better than under Soviet power" will answer in accordance with their mentality, they will selflessly rush to malice AGAINST Soviet power. That's it, I'm finishing the dialogue with you, you, like all enemies of the communists, are not capable of discussions about the history of your country.

                          The question will you answer or not: "What have you achieved in life? What kind of" non-degradation "?
                        4. -1
                          12 September 2020 22: 35
                          Ha, and I perfectly understand - for what purpose the question is asked - to "move the arrows" from YOU, enemies of the Communists, and to engage in your favorite criticism of others. And learn to behave in a civilized manner, and not like in the midst of a podzaborny punks.
                        5. -1
                          12 September 2020 14: 34
                          Quote: Spade
                          In fact, they themselves are the main enemy of the communists. For no one has done more for their own ruin

                          You are trying in vain, there for any arguments, including this, a reinforced concrete wall with the inscription "Enemies of the Communists".
                        6. 0
                          12 September 2020 19: 58
                          Reinforced concrete wall with the inscription "Enemies of the Communists". Rather, schizophrenia is pulsating.
                        7. +1
                          12 September 2020 21: 00
                          Quote: Vadim237
                          Rather, schizophrenia is pulsating.
                          I don't understand this at all, and therefore I do not presume to judge. I just know that attempts to enter the discussion end with a reference to the "reinforced concrete argument" ...
            2. +5
              12 September 2020 12: 23
              Well done ! But there are others who think only about their own well-being ...
              PS In the USSR, I don’t think you would be in poverty! hi
            3. -4
              12 September 2020 16: 12
              Imagine, but really it was Lenin who invented the first special distributors of food in the face of general hunger. Trotsky in Mexico recalled that in 1918, members of the Central Committee of the RSDLP (b) gorged themselves on black and red caviar. But he explained this by the fact that the export of caviar from Russia stopped, and the caviar could deteriorate. Despite the fact that tens of thousands of people were starving to death.
        2. +4
          12 September 2020 11: 52
          That's right, the main thing is the stomach, the sausage. Stomach people rule social processes in the bourgeois RF.
          1. -5
            12 September 2020 12: 11
            Quote: Essex62
            People - stomachs rule

            Namely, they "rule".
            And all the party officials who shouted "If they have no bread, let them eat cakes" lost power. And now they will hold their teeth together according to "socialism"
            Unless, of course, they themselves have not retrained into the bourgeoisie.
            1. +7
              12 September 2020 12: 27
              Quote: Spade
              all sorts of party workers

              I am by no means a party worker and was not in power, but socialism was, I don't know, maybe I was lucky to live and work under socialism! And work now. There is a big difference!
              1. -4
                12 September 2020 12: 42
                Quote from Uncle Lee
                but socialism was

                When there is Ylita with servilat from a special distributor and "limit", returning home on a "sausage train", this is not socialism.

                It ended under Khrushchev. When, after Stalin's death, the "leaders" decided that it was "time to live for themselves"
                1. +7
                  12 September 2020 13: 01
                  If your vision of socialism is reduced to a cervelat from a distributor, then I have nothing to talk about with you!
                  PS I always had a sausage in the fridge to eat .... Now how many varieties of sausage? You are happy, sorry that she is without meat ... hi
                  1. -4
                    12 September 2020 13: 08
                    Quote from Uncle Lee
                    If your vision of socialism is reduced to a cervelat from a distributor, then I have nothing to talk about with you!

                    If you are trying to pretend that the open inequality of citizens is absolutely normal for socialism, then there really is nothing.

                    Quote from Uncle Lee
                    I always had a sausage in the fridge to eat

                    But we don't. I did not always have the opportunity to stand in a long line and buy coupons. Dad disappeared at the service until the evening, my mother worked in a neighboring city and did not have time to return from work before closing. Buses ran every hour and a half.
                    1. +8
                      12 September 2020 13: 20
                      Quote: Spade
                      open inequality

                      What inequality! I could openly express my opinion to the director of the plant and put in place the secretary of the city committee ...
                      Quote: Spade
                      Dad in the service

                      And I myself fed my family, my mother-in-law, my mother, I went on business trips all over Sakhalin and grew potatoes in my dacha ...
                      1. -3
                        12 September 2020 13: 50
                        Quote from Uncle Lee
                        What inequality!

                        That is, the partocrat with the cervelat from the special distributor and the "limiter" with the kilogram of the "doctor's" from the "sausage train" were actually equal?

                        Quote from Uncle Lee
                        I could openly express my opinion to the director of the plant and put the secretary of the city committee in place ...

                        No questions.
                        But this opinion had to be correct. And flattering enough, because otherwise you would have had a lot of problems.

                        Quote from Uncle Lee
                        And I myself fed my family, my mother-in-law, my mother, I went on business trips all over Sakhalin and grew potatoes in my dacha ...

                        "Country house"? At the military?
                        Unless the "parquet" military enlistment offices had such opportunities.
                        1. +7
                          12 September 2020 14: 07
                          Quote: Spade
                          kilogram of "doctoral"

                          Again about the sausage! Now there are 100 varieties, are you satisfied? I don't see an answer!
                          Quote: Spade
                          a bunch of problems
                          There were problems without this ... flattering!
                          Quote: Spade
                          at the "parquet"
                          and where did you get the idea that I am a military man? I have worked at outposts, at PSKRs, at the border shipyard, on ships of various types and in the profession for over 50 years.
                        2. -4
                          12 September 2020 14: 11
                          Quote from Uncle Lee
                          Again about the sausage

                          No, this is not about sausage, this is about "equality"
                          Which cannot exist if there is no equal access to goods and benefits.
                          And don't try to pretend that you don't understand what I mean.

                          Quote from Uncle Lee
                          and where did you get the idea that I am a military man?

                          What have you got to do with it?
                          My father was in the military. With all that it implies. So, in principle, we could not talk about any "dachas".
                        3. +6
                          12 September 2020 14: 14
                          We apparently lived in different countries!
                          Best wishes to you !
            2. +1
              12 September 2020 12: 28
              The working class lost power. Inertly watching the seizure of this power by a surrogate of the bourgeoisie, in the form of shopkeepers, currency dealers and thief-traders. After Stalin, the CPSU functionaries did not have personal power. They are like priests, they read sermons and they themselves gradually became these stomachs.
              1. -1
                12 September 2020 12: 39
                Quote: Essex62
                The working class lost power.

                Did he have one?
                1. +3
                  13 September 2020 09: 51
                  Of course he did. Even my life is full of cases of confirmation. Only to prove this to the bourgeois liberd, like you, is useless and senseless. And I will not, I will save emotions for the cause.
          2. -4
            12 September 2020 20: 00
            Pies with Leaver - in Novocherkassk good "went".
        3. +3
          12 September 2020 12: 12
          Quote: Spade
          Even the communists prefer

          If the communists do not build communism, they are not communists ... adapted, traitors, random people.
          1. -3
            12 September 2020 12: 13
            Quote: apro
            If the communists do not build communism, they are not communists ... adapted, traitors, random people.

            And since no one is building communism in the world, there are no communists left.
            Accepted.
            1. +4
              12 September 2020 12: 15
              Quote: Spade
              And since communism in the world does not build

              This is purely your opinion.
              1. -3
                12 September 2020 12: 15
                Quote: apro
                This is purely your opinion.

                This is an objective reality.
                1. +2
                  12 September 2020 12: 19
                  Quote: Spade
                  This is an objective reality.

                  Everyone sees what he wants, who sees opportunities ... and who sees difficulties.
                  1. -3
                    12 September 2020 12: 22
                    Quote: apro
                    Everyone sees what he wants, who sees opportunities ... and who sees difficulties.

                    General phrases cannot change reality.
                    1. +4
                      12 September 2020 12: 32
                      Quote: Spade
                      General phrases cannot change reality.

                      So she oysters you.
                      1. -2
                        12 September 2020 12: 45
                        Quote: apro
                        So she oysters you.

                        Non-linear logic? laughing laughing laughing
                  2. -3
                    12 September 2020 20: 03
                    Just someone who lives in a fictional world - where someone builds communism, and someone lives in a real one - cruel, harsh and partially gray.
                    1. +3
                      13 September 2020 09: 57
                      This is the gray you created. And the Soviet 50-80 is quite happy and cozy. For all. Margin tears good neighborly relations, between people, to shreds. And yet, yes, a violent jungle is coming.
                      1. -2
                        13 September 2020 11: 50
                        I did not create it - it was created by nature from the very beginning as it is, and man, a part of nature lives according to its laws from which in socialism the collapse of the USSR clearly proved it.
                        1. +2
                          14 September 2020 08: 08
                          Man is man because he can overcome animal instincts. We have proved it with our lives. We didn't hide anywhere, we just lived, were friends, loved, and created. And grabbers, thieves, agents of animal, Western life were isolated. Sometimes they leaned against the wall. You, and others like you, have destroyed our home, in an unrestrained pursuit of profit, reviving disgusting, anti-human, selfish capitalism.
                2. -1
                  12 September 2020 16: 15
                  Reality or not, Lenin's Mausoleum cannot be demolished. Just as it is impossible to demolish temples and monuments of any religion, not just the communist one. These are Christians and Muslims (and the Bolsheviks) distinguished themselves in the destruction of ancient and other churches. As a result, a very small number of ancient or ancient architectural masterpieces have survived to this day.
                  1. -2
                    13 September 2020 20: 37
                    And no one will demolish it, Lenin will be buried and there will be something like a cascade of museums along the Kremlin wall.
                    1. +1
                      14 September 2020 04: 07
                      And tell me, Vadim237 (Vadim),
                      1) the remains of Yaroslav the Wise, which are put on public display at the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, also need to be buried?
                      2) the body of Lama Itigelov, located in the Ivolginsky Datsan, also needs to be buried?
                      3) the remains of the first man Lucy, which are in the museum, also need to be buried?

                      The list of questions can be continued indefinitely - Miklouho-Maclay in the Kunstkamera St. Petersburg, Mao Zedong in the Mausoleum in Beijing, Ho Chi Minh City ..... .. ...
      2. +11
        14 September 2020 22: 04
        Quote: apro
        no need to remember socialism in a bourgeois state

        The bourgeois are afraid of the return of Soviet power. And they will do everything to destroy all Soviet Yes
    12. +18
      12 September 2020 11: 08
      On the question of the importance of personality in history. The imperialists are afraid of Lenin even when he is dead. They need to erase the memory of the revolution in order to avoid repetition.
      1. +3
        12 September 2020 11: 53
        Criminals and parasites, who have enriched themselves by robbing Russia and its people, want to destroy even the memory that a State can exist for the people.
    13. +12
      12 September 2020 11: 09
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The best winner, no one does anything. It's a lie.

      No, this is a test of the reaction of society, everything is much more serious, and whoever decided to organize it is definitely the enemy! sad
    14. +8
      12 September 2020 11: 09
      We have become too childish, indifferent!
      I am not a great admirer of relics, BUT, this is our history and distorting it for the sake of the present ..... I consider it a crime.
      We need to seek and develop ideas that unite us, and not vice versa! ...
      On the good, all those organizers-provocateurs need to trim the faces about the table !!! but no one with with with! Those who are successors, admirers, and are again engaged in chatting in general and their selfish deeds .... and the public is far from all this and even further.
      PS but for the power and everything else to those who have it, it's like a GIFT, to quarrel the people again and again! Divide and conquer their purpose.
      1. +7
        12 September 2020 13: 55
        Have a nice day, laughing respected! You know, Victor, I understand that having started such actions, there will be neither Lenin's body, nor the Mausoleum at all. This is the ultimate goal. Remember the tagged slogan --- more socialism. And then what.
        1. +2
          12 September 2020 15: 11
          Hi Dmitry soldier
          What will happen next has not yet been determined!
          But what is happening NOW is quite understandable .... for US, our PEOPLE, they took up thoroughly and specifically! They want to drive us out of us, make us forget everything SOVIET, and this is just for the beginning! And then they will take on all RUSSIAN! And they will try to make us the same as they ...
          Then EVERYTHING, then their victory, then on the planet there will be only people like themselves.
          After all, there is a greater threat, more such strong, but not like them, NO!
          Everything was logical, everything was predictable!
          1. +5
            12 September 2020 15: 35
            Quote: rocket757
            .. for US, our PEOPLE, they took up thoroughly and specifically! They want to expel from us, make us forget everything SOVIET, and this is just for the beginning! And then they will take on all RUSSIAN! And they will try to make us the same as they ... t!
            This is yes. We took it. The destruction of the USSR, Victor, shows that there is a desire to create servants for oneself, but not an equal.
            1. +3
              12 September 2020 15: 52
              For the elite of the brazenly Saxon world, ALL servants or enemies, there is no third option. This is nothing new.
              1. +5
                12 September 2020 16: 13
                It seems to me that if the traitors of the USSR were counting on equality with the bourgeoisie, then the present consciously go to serve
                1. +2
                  12 September 2020 16: 32
                  A small fish always goes to feed the sharks .... and in the ocean of the world of business, sharks have long been upset .... and they have stuck their own for a long time! The rest goes to feed.
                  Therefore, who are smarter hid in our shallow pond and tremble with fear.
                  1. +4
                    12 September 2020 16: 39
                    Quote: rocket757
                    A small fish always goes to feed the sharks .... and in the ocean of the world of business, sharks have long been upset .... and they have stuck their own for a long time! The rest goes to feed ..... ha.
                    the competition stuck for the place, probably.
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      1. +3
        12 September 2020 16: 18
        A question for you, rudolff (rudolff) - why bury Lenin's body? He was not a Christian, Russia is a secular state, about Lenin's will, where he allegedly wrote that he wanted to be buried, is not known for certain. Let it be as it is. Otherwise, after 100 years, Lenin will have to be cloned and once again made into a mummy for the mausoleum, similar to how the Cathedral of Christ the Savior was cloned.
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          1. +1
            12 September 2020 16: 51
            Lenin is no longer a man after death. He is a symbol of the communist religion. I'm not a communist. I make money with my small business. I am also not a Christian, but an atheist. But I believe that religious symbols cannot be destroyed. I travel a lot and to myself make fun of sacred places in different countries. But I consider it inadmissible to outrage the feelings of believers. Although earlier in the tourist group he often ridiculed Christian places in Israel, Jordan and Syria. Now for this I am a little ashamed.

            If the Mausoleum is destroyed and the communists are deprived of their shrine, then what will we be better than the Christians who ruined many thousands of architectural masterpieces of Ancient Rome, Ancient Greece and many other countries, including Ancient Rus? Nothing better. And the world would be better if these masterpieces survived to this day.
    16. +2
      12 September 2020 11: 15
      Again, the Russophobes liberals unbelted ...
      1. +12
        14 September 2020 22: 05
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Again, the Russophobes liberals unbelted ...

        These liberoids have not yet unraveled. This is just the beginning. Wait, they won't do that yet.
    17. 0
      12 September 2020 11: 17
      The moment of truth is coming ...
      1. 0
        12 September 2020 16: 36
        Truth is in wine .... (in fortified)
    18. +4
      12 September 2020 11: 17
      I suspect that all the people will have to chip in and redeem the Movsoleum, but capitalism. negative
    19. +14
      12 September 2020 11: 18
      That's right. We must complete the process of decommunization and de-Sovietization of the country, with the mausoleum in Russia the evenings are not so delightful, with balls, beauties, junkers, the crunch of French rolls with champagne and Schulbert waltzes. Lenin, the demolition of Soviet monuments in other states. laughing We are outraged by people like that, how bad they are, they do not remember history, but we do the same thing. Apparently, we are tired of nailing up the mausoleum on May 9 every year. That is why such an idea arose from a public organization. Opchest demands. laughing
    20. +7
      12 September 2020 11: 18
      Quote: apro
      The destruction of the Soviet legacy will continue ... slowly but surely, the memory of socialism in a bourgeois state is not needed, and there is no one to stop it ...

      This stuffing - just before this article was on the topic of fakes, and other elements, it is not only provocative, it is explosive. We decided to test - to probe the society on a well-known topic, at the same time to check the reaction and capabilities of the Communist Party - in principle, a three-way move, in the style of his friends in Jerusalem.
    21. +12
      12 September 2020 11: 19
      I propose to use the place of execution for its historical purpose, to start with the organizers of this competition.
    22. -8
      12 September 2020 11: 21
      to make a museum dedicated to that period, this is history
      1. +3
        12 September 2020 11: 36
        uncle, this is the museum and history
    23. -9
      12 September 2020 11: 25
      The wheel of history has turned. 100 years ago, the communists, without any competitions, demolished monuments to the tsars, pulled them out of their graves. Now it's the turn of the communists.
      1. +9
        12 September 2020 11: 37
        No, everything is much more monstrous. If the Communist Bolsheviks destroyed something yy, then they gave the country and the people much more. And you, enemies of Lenin, who seized the USSR, are only capable of destroying, destroying, taking away from the country and the people, instilling anger and hatred, slandering the history of our country, but you are not able to GIVE ANYTHING good to the country and the people. And you are constantly doing the same thing that you present for the crimes of the communists, cowardly justifying this by the fact that the communists did it.
        1. -6
          12 September 2020 11: 54
          We were born in the USSR and raised by you! We are not aliens. What you took off is what you collected. Stop disclaiming responsibility. Be at least men
          1. +2
            12 September 2020 12: 01
            Here, the eternal cowardly ideology of the enemies of the communists "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all the communists are to blame." The Soviet and anti-Soviet people on the territory of the USSR are fundamentally different in EVERYTHING, including the fact that the Soviet people are FOR, including for Lenin, and the anti-Soviet people are evil, aggressive, cowardly AGAINST, and FOR for their country and people, including at least one leader your State, you DO NOT. The anti-Soviet people do not have a positive history of their country before their capture of the USSR, and the history of your post-Soviet period is only what you HAVE at the expense of someone else's labor, at the expense of your country and people.
            1. -2
              12 September 2020 12: 16
              Listen, stop broadcasting slogans and labeling everyone who disagrees with you. We plow and work, as much as you personally have not plowed. And do not nod at the Komsomol members of the 20-30-40's. You have nothing to do with them. They sat for salaries and slowly dragged from work everything that was bad.
              1. -1
                12 September 2020 12: 20
                Well, again, the cowardly response of the enemies of the Communists to all accusations against them is in the style of "defending oneself in turn by attacking others." So their only justification in 30 years for their seizure of the USSR is malice against those from whom they took the country, because they have nothing FOR themselves, FOR what they have done.
    24. +7
      12 September 2020 11: 26
      The opinion is expressed on the network that the competition for the Mausoleum "without Lenin" - provocation.
      Definitely.
      and also think over a route connecting the Museum of Russian Architecture and the mausoleum.
      There is only one route - to send the initiators of the three-letter "competition" through the Kolyma and Magadan mines. For the remaining "initiators" there is a proposal - to equip a museum of architecture in the Yeltsin Center, and to demolish the monument to Yeltsin, as a symbol of shame and ruin of Russia.
      1. +3
        12 September 2020 16: 36
        I would personally kill such architects
    25. +6
      12 September 2020 11: 31
      Lenin in the Mausoleum in the post-Soviet period is much more important than in the Soviet period. He clearly defines those who are for all the best for their country and people, for respect for the history of their country, and those who, only for everything that is bad for their country and people, hate the history of their country, great people and heroes of their country and people.
    26. +8
      12 September 2020 11: 35
      In Ukraine, monuments to Lenin were brought down and this Putin's political regime there too. They fight the Soviet past without sparing their belly. To be afraid of Lenin and the dead. Who gave the right to some union of architects to decide something there? let these ideas be shoved into their anus. Either they covered the mausoleum with rags, now they covered it with plywood, so that the Soviet past does not remind the ghouls on whose bones they dance
      1. +1
        12 September 2020 16: 29
        Monuments to Lenin in Ukraine will not be restored, but even the current Ukrainian regime has a head on a thread
        1. +11
          14 September 2020 22: 06
          Quote: Alexander1971
          Monuments to Lenin in Ukraine will not be restored

          Who knows ... Nobody could predict the future yet. At one time, no one thought that the People's Soviet Power would come to power in the Russian Empire.
    27. -6
      12 September 2020 11: 39
      Bury it humanly, they made some kind of exhibit out of it, and now it's also a cause for contention. Ilyich himself would have been shocked by this!
      1. +8
        12 September 2020 12: 06
        An abstract example - a charge of buckshot flew in, mowing out part of the quarry, the ranks closed. The second flew in, the standard-bearer fell, no one raised, the whole regiment ran. The mausoleum is a banner, a symbol of the ongoing civil war between the whites and the reds. Those who did not live in a just society of true democracy ask themselves the question: who is Lenin, and why is he a mausoleum? Achievement of the bourgeoisie turns here to work against them. The school anti-communist program is no longer enough.
      2. +2
        12 September 2020 16: 34
        Lenin was a man, but Lenin's body is the central symbol of the communist religion. You cannot harm religious symbols, even if we do not share one faith or another. I am not a Christian, but I am against the destruction of Christian churches. Although Christians destroyed ancient and other churches. I am not a communist, but I am against the destruction of communist sanctuaries.

        And imagine if all the ancient masterpieces of architecture would have survived to this day! But most of these masterpieces were destroyed by idiots - religious fanatics.

        Are you, Seaflame (Michael), in favor of destroying shrines that don't fit your alignment?
        1. 0
          12 September 2020 17: 28
          I am not for the destruction of the building of the Mausoleum, but against making an exhibit out of the human body, this is disrespect for the deceased. Communism is still not a religion and has never claimed to be like that.
          1. +3
            12 September 2020 17: 51
            The communists declared that the communist idea is not a religion. But think what religion is, and you will see that communism is the same idealistic, not materialistic religion. Start thinking about whether communism will be real, or just a lure for the orphaned and disadvantaged.

            And about disrespect - you are wrong again. The highest respect has been shown to the body of Lenin - namely, an attempt to perpetuate the memory of Lenin in the flesh. For any burial, and not throwing away the corpse, is an attempt to preserve the memory of the deceased. The main thing in matters of respect or disrespect is the feeling and intentions with which the body of the deceased was treated by the people who buried it. I am absolutely sure that the Bolsheviks who buried Lenin in the Mausoleum did not do it out of a sense of disrespect for Lenin.

            Disrespect for a corpse is a mockery. For example, Shapur I ordered to rip off the skin from the captive Emperor Valerian, fill it with manure and put it at the gate of Ctesiphon. Or the captive queen of Armenia Shapur I gave up for rape to his soldiers, including after her death. Or another example, Ashurbanipal ordered to plunder the tombs of the kings of Elam, and the last captive king of Elam was instructed to crush the bones of the ancient kings of Elam in a mortar. At the same time, the captive last king of Elam was sitting in a cage naked at the gate of Nineveh, and a jackal and a dog were sitting in the cage with him.

            This is disrespect for the buried. I repeat that there was no disrespect for Lenin's body during the burial. On the contrary, there were the highest honors.
    28. +7
      12 September 2020 11: 41
      Quote: parusnik
      ..Since the 90s there has been such a bike, they say, if Lenin is reburied, grace will rise on Russia and an economic miracle will occur.

      If I hadn’t heard these nonsense, I wouldn’t believe it, but they were in all seriousness drove this nonsense, or even steeper, it felt like they were given "coke" for free, in kilograms.
      1. +9
        12 September 2020 12: 05
        Yes, it seems, they haven't gotten off the coke for 30 years ..
        1. +3
          12 September 2020 12: 19
          Quote: parusnik
          Yes, it seems, they haven't gotten off the coke for 30 years ..

          If, much earlier, only the doses were small and not free of charge, the KGB kept watch, and then the fumes of revelry began, which continues to this day.
        2. +2
          12 September 2020 16: 34
          Quote: parusnik
          Yes, it seems, they haven't gotten off the coke for 30 years ..

          Well, yes, superstition, magic, predictions ....... "" marafet with booze get in the way "(film" Streets of Broken Lanterns ")[i [/ i]
    29. -5
      12 September 2020 11: 46
      Transfer to the ROC, of ​​course laughing laughing laughing
      1. +3
        12 September 2020 17: 52
        Why hand over Lenin's body to the Russian Orthodox Church? Lenin was an unbeliever.
        1. +1
          12 September 2020 20: 43
          Quote: Alexander1971
          Why hand over Lenin's body to the Russian Orthodox Church? Lenin was an unbeliever.

          Why body? The mausoleum, of course.
          There will be one more point for candle trading - the most prestigious VIP laughing
          1. +2
            13 September 2020 06: 22
            You have frozen some stupidity. Give your apartment to the Russian Orthodox Church under the candle trade.

            By the way, the ROC itself at one time sought to destroy many pre-Christian sanctuaries in Russia. In this sense, the ROC is no better than the Bolsheviks who destroyed Christian and other churches.
            1. 0
              13 September 2020 08: 02
              I was joking actually.
            2. +3
              13 September 2020 13: 34
              They baptized with fire and sword. (practically Ts.)
    30. +6
      12 September 2020 11: 46
      The competition is a "private initiative" and if it happens, and if Lenin is allowed to be a competitor in the mausoleum, on an equal footing with the rest, then Lenin will certainly win! And in the minds and hearts of ordinary people who are aware of cause and effect.
      Let's organize a similar precedent competition at VO, but the Yeltsin Center with its "shmattitsa" will be the defendant. And we will publish the results at the same time ...
    31. +10
      12 September 2020 11: 52
      "The Jury of the competition invited:
      Minister of Culture of the Russian Federation O.B. Lyubimova;
      Director of the Kremlin Museums E.Yu. Gagarin;
      Deputy Director of the State Museum of Architecture. A.V. Shchuseva I.V. Chepkunova;
      Political figure, head of the faction of the "Fair Russia" party S.M. Mironov;
      Full member of the International Academy of Architecture, candidate of architecture I.M. Korobyin;
      Writer, political and public figure A.A. Prokhanov;
      Writer, culturologist, one of the founders of the "Arkhnadzor" movement R.E. Rakhmatullin;
      Film director, public figure A.N. Sokurov;
      President of the Union of Architects of Russia N.I. Shumakov. "
      You don't even need to look for anyone. Can they be offered a job on the Yeltsin Center?
    32. +7
      12 September 2020 11: 53
      Why now? But because it is necessary to poison people so that they gouge a friend, and in the meantime they will do something else, well, like a pension reform
    33. +7
      12 September 2020 11: 57
      The final. Our Moses led their people to the final destination of a long journey. We accelerated a little.
      1. +9
        12 September 2020 12: 09
        Yes, so that later, with a clear conscience, to erect monuments to the interventionists, Krasnovs, Mannerheims and others ...
    34. +8
      12 September 2020 12: 07
      Leave alone, !!!
      In 1941, the grave of Tamerlane was opened in the Gur-Emir mausoleum ... Mysticism, not mysticism, but the next day the war began ...
      1. +1
        12 September 2020 12: 54
        Quote: mark021105
        the next day the war began ...

        Oh, scared. You might think that wars start suddenly. Average accountants have already calculated everything.
    35. -11
      12 September 2020 12: 09
      First you need to hold a referendum. Where the majority should decide whether to give the body of Ilyich to the communists or to transfer it to Switzerland. That is, where you came from. Well, the third option should be, this is where people will show their imagination and come up with where to put Lenin's body. I heard the initiative - to send him to the moon. Not a bad option when you consider that the Americans could have cheated about being on the moon. Then it turns out Ilyich will be a pioneer there. And there maybe someone more interesting what they think of)))))
    36. +7
      12 September 2020 12: 16
      A competition will be held in Russia for the best concept for the further use of the Lenin Mausoleum on Red Square.

      That is, the question of transferring V.I. Lenin's already decided? belay
      What will "comrade" Zyuganov answer to this? Express another concern? lol
      Although it is strange to expect that the power of the bourgeoisie, through the media who are called upon to erect and erect monuments to Nazi criminals, will forever maintain the memory of their ideological enemy.
      And now, with the next stuffing about the burial of V.I. Lenin, decided to test the electoral soil, did the "frog" cook? All the same, 30 years of capitalism in the Russian Federation, whole generations have grown up.
      After all, while in the center of the capitalist capital of the Russian Federation lies the symbol of all progressive humanity, capitalism cannot win.
      By the way, how these "effective managers" have not yet guessed to sell Lenin's body to the Chinese, I cannot understand.
      1. +15
        13 September 2020 23: 21
        Quote: Sovetskiy
        how these "effective managers" have not yet figured out how to sell Lenin's body to the Chinese, I cannot understand

        Who knows. Maybe this issue has already been discussed among "effective managers", but they were afraid of the people's anger. Maybe this provocation is being started, among other things, to address this issue by "effective managers" ...
      2. +12
        14 September 2020 22: 08
        Quote: Sovetskiy
        What will "comrade" Zyuganov answer to this?

        He gets outraged for the sake of appearance and that's it ...
    37. +10
      12 September 2020 12: 19
      Lenin must stay in the mausoleum
      1. +15
        13 September 2020 23: 16
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Lenin must stay in the mausoleum

        You are absolutely right. You shouldn't touch Lenin and the mausoleum.
    38. +7
      12 September 2020 12: 21
      Leave Vladimir Ilyich alone! Let it lie to itself. He does not bother anyone and is in no hurry. Let our descendants decide, in 200-500 years.
    39. -2
      12 September 2020 12: 21
      A competition has been announced in Russia for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum "Without Lenin"


      They are in a hurry to vacate a place, or something :)

    40. +3
      12 September 2020 12: 22
      Quote: depressant
      Guys, whatever you want, but transforming the Mausoleum of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin into something else is blasphemy! This is vulgar, cowardly, philistine petty and unworthy!

      This is treason, in a frankly perverse form, which is what characterizes the current OPS, it is in their style, they are no stranger to it. Another question is how to react ... sad
    41. +4
      12 September 2020 12: 23
      Another super relevant idea ..
      1. +14
        13 September 2020 23: 14
        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
        Another super relevant idea ..

        This is not an idea. This is stupidity and provocation.
      2. +11
        14 September 2020 22: 08
        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
        Another super relevant idea ..

        As if we have no other problems ...
    42. +8
      12 September 2020 12: 30
      Lenin must be preserved for History and descendants, especially not the fact that Capitalism will remain on the planet in the Far Future laughing
      1. +14
        13 September 2020 23: 13
        Quote: Mimoxod
        Capitalism will survive on the planet in the Distant Future

        Capitalism has no future. Captalism is artificially supported by oligarchic forces.
    43. +7
      12 September 2020 12: 38
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      In my opinion, Lenin should be reburied at the Kremlin wall or next to relatives, and the Mausoleum should be left as a monument to the era. It's not about some kind of political considerations, but I just personally don't like it when the deceased is on public view and the people, like an attraction, go to look at him. This is not good. First of all, it is not good for the living that they do this. So Lenin is finally buried in a human way, and you can continue to take excursions to the Mausoleum. I am against any display of the remains, including the relics of saints, and even more the worship of them. Even though he had been in Moscow for a long time, he had never been able to go to the Mausoleum.

      Some users have explained to you why the relics (bones) can be transported across countries and continents, but here for some reason the body of the Leader of the Great State cannot be simply stored, one might say in a crypt? I can agree that admission there should be limited - this is not a museum, but it is the same shrine as Victory Day, like the 1941 Parade! In general, what did they aim at ................. ???? !!!! angry
    44. -2
      12 September 2020 12: 51
      What is the route connecting the Museum of Russian Architecture and the mausoleum? In the mausoleum of Russian architecture, zero point, zero tenths ...
      1. +1
        12 September 2020 13: 36
        Quote: Whirlwind
        What is the route connecting the Museum of Russian Architecture and the mausoleum? In the mausoleum of Russian architecture, zero point, zero tenths ...

        ===
        so to speak, the new Russian architecture, or the architecture of the revolution. something like modern.
        1. -3
          12 September 2020 16: 06
          A revolution in translation is a coup. Who was nothing to everyone ... From rags to riches ...
          As a result, a black square and an all-sucking universal, black hole.
          1. +14
            13 September 2020 23: 12
            Quote: Whirlwind
            Who was nothing to everyone ... From rags to riches ...

            Are you talking about the people who overthrew the power of helpers and bourgeoisie? ...
            1. -1
              14 September 2020 14: 04
              About a revolution on a cosmic scale ... After all, we were the first to go out into space,
              and it was a real revolution in the evolution of the biosphere on Earth.
    45. -4
      12 September 2020 12: 52
      Comrade Lenin's body will be buried after the victory of the world revolution.
      1. +4
        12 September 2020 16: 27
        Comrade Lenin's body is already below ground level. And the world revolution is a permanent process, and not necessarily under the communist ideology.
    46. +5
      12 September 2020 12: 57
      Note to the moderators. It is necessary to conduct a survey to see prices on VO, to bury not to bury. And then the spears are THERE !!!
      1. +14
        13 September 2020 23: 10
        Quote: Sergey 23
        And then spears and THREAT!

        This is not "spears rattling". This is evidence of a new division of the people of Russia into two camps, into red and white ...
        1. +11
          14 September 2020 22: 09
          Quote: solzh
          evidence of a new division of the people of Russia into two camps

          Moreover, I ask you to notice the artificial division of the people into two opposing camps ...
    47. +10
      12 September 2020 12: 57
      Yeah. architects are better off not taking risks. and the authorities of Moscow, too ---- the National Guard will not save, it is better to let them do their direct business than suffer the garbage
      1. +7
        12 September 2020 16: 26
        Those architects who do this will try on cement boots
        1. +1
          14 September 2020 10: 44
          try on boots made of cement ......... so it's easier to have a couple of grape columns like in the dashing 90s ..... by the way. and in the Moscow river crayfish are found ?????
      2. +14
        13 September 2020 23: 08
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        architects better not risk it

        I think not a single sane architect will participate in this rotten venture.
    48. +18
      12 September 2020 13: 06
      Most of all I was "pleased" by the phrase that there is no political order here.
      But in fact, this is the very thing that does not exist, and it rushes from all the cracks of this project.
      Leave alone the Mausoleum, this is our story, which cannot be covered with the joyful faces of clowns from McDonald's.
      The desire to depersonalize Russia comes under constant pressure from the bad memory of the times when power was transferred from the hands of traitor # 1 to traitor # 2, from Gorbachev to Yeltsin.
      Look at our last Parades on Red Square, why and why are the Mausoleum closed, the place that was honored by the defenders of the Motherland, who left in November 1941 to fight for the Motherland?
      It was to the Mausoleum that our soldiers threw the defeated banners of the Wehrmacht, so why now we are ashamed of it?
      Or does someone really want to erase the appearance of the Mausoleum, the Kremlin, Russia? And if not from the memory of the adult generation, then at least from the brains of the growing up?
      I propose an alternative project - the demolition of the Yeltsin House in Yoburg, under the roll, to the same grandmother.
      1. +4
        13 September 2020 00: 57
        Quote: Romanenko
        The desire to depersonalize Russia comes under constant pressure from the bad memory of the times when power was transferred from the hands of traitor # 1 to traitor # 2, from Gorbachev to Yeltsin.

        You are right, it is not Lenin that needs to be removed from the mausoleum, but the nationalist idea of ​​the CPSU, which first distributed Russian lands. Then the chairmen stubbornly created conditions for the development of nationalist views, believing that this is an alternative to the imperial integration of peoples, and then, in general, the land and the people for three stupidly drank them off in Belovezhskaya Pushcha! That's what you need to take out and bury, preferably deeper !!!
    49. +5
      12 September 2020 13: 23
      I would not recommend fighting the country's historical monument ... well, it somehow reminds the Sumerian races around history ... Lenin's mausoleum just needs to be left alone ... well, the Bolsheviks did not destroy the Temple of the Cover on the Moat (yes, they blew up the identity enough which does not honor radicalism and is not an example to follow) ... it has been part of Red Square and the Kremlin for a long time ... and in my opinion this topic has passed the point of no return ...
    50. +9
      12 September 2020 13: 30
      Perhaps, within the framework of the competition, they also submit a proposal to remove from the Kremlin those who have nothing to do with the Victory and other conquests of the state, precisely those who discredit, discredit the conquests of the country of the Soviets, symbols of Victory, for whom the Mausoleum is the final obstacle to achieving their own quite definite goals, like the banner of Victory, the 1941 parade, the Victory Parade, when the standards of the defeated enemy were thrown at the foot of the Mausoleum! They want to destroy this memory, at the same time, in a "blue eye" talking about "unchanging memory", hypocritically accusing (quite rightly) of their "partners" there, although the quotes are for us, and for them they are partners without quotes. Then the question is - what kind of memory are these ... characters talking about? sad
      1. +3
        13 September 2020 01: 06
        Quote: Radikal
        Perhaps, within the framework of the competition, we can also submit a proposal to remove from the Kremlin those who have nothing to do with Victory,

        In this case, the entire capital must be moved beyond the Urals. The transfer of the capital of Russia to Siberia, firstly, will neutralize nuclear missile threats from the West, secondly, it will replace a number of state programs for the development of Siberia and the Far East, and thirdly, all the rotten, corrupt elite with their pocket oligarchs will remain in Moscow.
    51. +8
      12 September 2020 13: 38
      The opinion is expressed online that the competition for the Mausoleum "without Lenin" is a provocation.

      Isn’t the installation of monuments to Krasnov, Kolchak, Wrangel, Belochek, Solzhenitsyn, Mannerheim and other and other bastards a provocation? lol But the funny thing is that this provocation was “swallowed” and there are monuments to them. Why should the provocation with Lenin be an exception? They will swallow this one too, as long as there are no upheavals and civil war, right? This is what those who staged a coup in the 90s and came to power successfully take advantage of.
      1. +8
        12 September 2020 16: 25
        Krasnov, Kolchak and others are too small personalities compared to Lenin.

        After all, we remember the names of Alexander the Great and Darius III. But does anyone other than historians know the names of their commanders?

        Also, in 500 or 1000 years they will know about Lenin, but only historians will know about the other small things from among his contemporaries, and only if people still exist.
        1. -1
          13 September 2020 16: 43
          - Oh, don’t tell me... Here, for example, we have a city named after one of Ilyich’s associates - and not the most worthy one... And streets named after bombers Zhelyabov, Khalturin, and, it seems, Kalyaev... And without any prospect of renaming .... And you say...
      2. +2
        13 September 2020 13: 43
        Have you seen the Solzhenitsyn monument in Kislovodsk? This is where its essence is shown! Especially the look and the little hands. One magnificent lady began to cross herself at him, and the child in the other’s arms began to cry at the sight of him... I got the point.
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    53. 0
      12 September 2020 14: 01
      Apparently they decided to put the relics of the “saints” Borka and Vovka in Lenin’s place, and next to them in vases of their admirers, called Kremlins.... lol
      1. +4
        12 September 2020 16: 22
        For Borka, you can also make a Mausoleum from the Yeltsin Center. Just let Borka be there under glass in the same form in which he was buried.
        1. +14
          13 September 2020 23: 04
          Quote: Alexander1971
          For Borka

          Let him burn peacefully in hell for his crimes.
          Quote: Alexander1971
          Yeltsin Center

          Demolish the hell out of it.
    54. +2
      12 September 2020 14: 04
      If the enemies of the communists in the Russian government have at least a hint of sanity, then, in the face of a sharp drop in the ratings of Putin and the United Russia, they will not irritate most, if not most, of the Russian people by removing Lenin, because almost all polls show that the majority of the Russian people has a positive attitude towards Soviet power, especially towards Stalin.
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    56. +6
      12 September 2020 14: 30
      Definitely a vile provocation! But the difficulty is that these ardent anti-Sovietists are an integral part of our near-government elite and periodically remind us of their existence. And we raised them ourselves during perestroika and the collapse of the USSR, and even elected them to power...
    57. -6
      12 September 2020 14: 38
      If we really talk about architecture, then I would immediately tear the hell down (to the edge, move it further away) this infernal ziggurat, so as not to spoil the main square of the country. At the same time, he would move the entire cemetery along the wall and in the wall to a place specially designated for this, with all honors and respect for the ashes. A.. And it wouldn’t be a bad idea to demolish the so-called “new palace of conventions”, which is on the territory of the Kremlin. Terrible bad taste and excessive eclecticism. This is about architecture.
      If we talk about ideology, then screw him, let him lie there for now, there will be less stench. Another 10-15-20 years will pass and everyone will put this cracker away. And now it’s too painful for many people to understand the temperature in their brains when they start talking about VIL and its place in the main square of the country. As for me, he brought more suffering to my homeland than blessings. And I consider his oriflaming and “canonization” a terrorist attack against the genetic code of my people. But this is my personal opinion, which I do not impose on anyone, and I certainly do not intend to enter into controversy with anyone on this matter.
      1. -1
        12 September 2020 23: 18
        Eka, the brains of the minus players started to smoke... What kind of an enthusiastic moron do you have to be to put an equal sign between real socialism and the cannibal Lenin? As they say, thanks to many years of party propaganda.
        However, there is a strong belief that if Stalin had the opportunity, he would have demolished this ziggurat himself. Why? Let me explain. A cohort of internationalists, led by VIL (Trotsky and others), pursued one single goal - world revolution (one of the first aggressive acts of the globalists, now already the third act). And they didn’t give a damn about the fate of the Russian people in particular and multinational Russia in general. The division of the empire into republics based on nationality only confirms this indisputable fact. Stalin was essentially the last emperor of Russia, although in a slightly different form than the Russian monarchs who preceded him. And the first thing he did when he came to power was to multiply the fiery revolutionaries/internationalists by zero, and by the mid-30s he was completely focused on the country’s problems, and not on fanning the global revolutionary fire.
        Not understanding this means not understanding the very essence of the revolution that took place in our country (in fact, a revolution, there was a revolution a little earlier, a bourgeois one), in 1917. To assert that it is the masses who are ripe for such a revolution is the same as asserting. that in Ukraine the masses matured in 2014 or now in Belarus. All these “revolutions” are inspired exclusively from abroad and they have one goal - the destruction of Russia. But the Western backstage miscalculated with Russia; they did not expect such a manager as the IVS. And the Bolsheviks left the mausoleum solely because the leadership was not fools (unlike the forum minus players)) and perfectly understood the inertia of the thinking of the masses (by the way, this is why the so-called “code of the builder of communism” is so similar in many postulates to the gospel instructions) and the people simply I would not understand why and why the party would make such a sharp turn away from classical Leninism. And yes, here it is also necessary to separately note that both “god-like” classics, Ulyanov and Marx, never worked a day in their lives, in the sense of producing social goods or material values, and even simply did not earn a penny, but were dependent on certain financial circles. Those. in fact, they are natural sofa rubbers.))
        But if you don’t have your own brains, then yes, everything is according to the manual, called the newspaper “Pravda”, in which they wrote propaganda articles, for idiots. Minus further. You will be honored in the Jewish paradise. )))
    58. -5
      12 September 2020 14: 43
      The Bolsheviks themselves unwittingly created a parody of Orthodoxy. Judge for yourself: the mummified body of Lenin is a parody of incorruptible relics (what a mockery of the atheist Lenin from party comrades!), demonstrations with portraits of leaders are a parody of a religious procession, the building of communism is a parody of the Kingdom of God on earth, a joint depiction of Marx and Engels , Lenin is a parody of the Holy Trinity, stories about the life of Lenin are a parody of the Gospel. There is also talk about Lenin as a Savior, stories about the life of Lenin and prominent Bolsheviks - a parody of the lives of saints, political instructors in the army instead of priests. The red corner (the red corner in the hut) again... It’s amazing that the country was ruled by intelligent people (or are we overestimating them here a little?) and how could they allow this travesty? By the beginning of the 80s, this parodic “faith” was completely rotten, unlike Orthodoxy, which, despite all the persecution, has existed in Russia for more than 1000 years and is not going to give up its position.
      As for the article, Lenin should be buried near the Kremlin wall. To put it mildly, I am not a fan of his, but Vladimir Ilyich was the leader of our state and should be buried with full military honors.

      By the way, the Mausoleum with the name “Lenin” should remain on Red Square and draping it on May 9 and other holidays is counterproductive. It’s a pity that the authorities don’t understand this...
      1. -6
        12 September 2020 16: 14
        Quote: bars1
        The Bolsheviks themselves unwittingly created a parody of Orthodoxy.

        Who told you that “without wanting it”? Very much so, since Russia was thoroughly Orthodox and the people would have accepted other values ​​with difficulty, if at all. It was no fools who worked there when they changed concepts, and VIL was among them.
        And so, yes, I agree. It's a parody.
    59. 0
      12 September 2020 15: 30
      All ideas of sarcasm about the news revolve around Artemy and Bank Imperial! :-)
    60. +4
      12 September 2020 15: 49
      Announcing a “competition” is just a form of informing the population. Essentially, the counter-revolution has happened!
    61. +11
      12 September 2020 15: 57
      Why not think about how to use the Yeltsin Center and change its name?! The alcoholic Boris brought so much trouble to Russia that only Hitler can be put on the same level with him! Due to the fault of the fascist reforms of Vidushka Gorbachev and Alkanaft Boriska Yeltsin, the Russian Federation lost more population than during the Second World War! It’s time to give these individuals an appropriate political assessment and stop inviting these Russophobes to the Russian Federation, erase any mention of them in the Russian Federation, in the form of any monuments or names!
      1. +4
        12 September 2020 16: 15
        Quote: Shadow041
        Why not think about how to use the Yeltsin Center and change its name?!

        This will be the next stage. As long as the proteges of the “family” are in power, the El Center cannot be touched. And if we give the fuckers a fair assessment, then this assessment begs for our entire current leadership.
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    63. +10
      12 September 2020 16: 24
      For such a competition you have to drive up the road and break your nose!!!!
      Sorry for the directness of my statement, but I can’t do it any other way!
      I would be grateful to the VO administration if it conveys my opinion to the authors of the “idea”
    64. +2
      12 September 2020 16: 36
      Quote: Shadow041
      Why not think about how to use the Yeltsin Center and change its name?! The alcoholic Boris brought so much trouble to Russia that only Hitler can be put on the same level with him! Due to the fault of the fascist reforms of Vidushka Gorbachev and Alkanaft Boriska Yeltsin, the Russian Federation lost more population than during the Second World War! It’s time to give these individuals an appropriate political assessment and stop inviting these Russophobes to the Russian Federation, erase any mention of them in the Russian Federation, in the form of any monuments or names!

      The fact of the matter is that the liberal Uchitel did not, for some reason, create a film about how Misha Gorbaty
      dumped Raika in the hayloft or in the dorm. And he created a vile film about the relationship between Nicholas II and the ballerina Matilda. And the liberals would rather demolish the Lenin Mausoleum than close the Yeltsin Center.
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    66. +1
      12 September 2020 16: 52
      Has it dawned on us that it’s not right to drape our history? But what about this?: "Zakhar Prilepin. Russian lessons": Lesson No. 110. Anti-Soviet vandalism is sweeping across Russia. [media= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG_KrApw-CI&list=PLSgy-gJ-dkS9QmKvn-FoHK9EwSNTIBofF&index=1]
    67. +4
      12 September 2020 18: 01
      Quote: Tatiana
      Well, it was not Putin who personally surrendered the country to the West, but Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Putin accepted from them and from their hands such a country - such Russia!

      There were no oligarchs under Gorbachev, and the enterprises of our city were closed under Putin. Maybe you remember the Polovtsians and Pechenegs?
    68. -2
      12 September 2020 18: 05
      Quote: tatra
      removal of Lenin

      Let it lie there for now, and then we’ll bring in the next “beacon” - just change 3 letters. laughing
    69. +5
      12 September 2020 18: 32
      My friends, our people will come and they will be shown not only Kuzka’s mother! Leave the Mausoleum alone, leave it alone! This is our history and should not be touched! History of our country! People like Volkogonov, Radzinsky, Svanidze and their ilk, liberals and shitcrats, have already mocked the USSR!!!
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    71. +3
      12 September 2020 18: 56
      What are you up to, Herods? Replace the first three letters in the name and move the remote control from Novo-Ogarevo closer? There is no need to worry about what is beyond our control; Tamerlane was dug up at one time - and what did they get? It’s better if they rename it not the mausoleum, but Abramovich’s Eclipse, it’s more comfortable there, too.
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    73. +6
      12 September 2020 19: 30
      The first and last name of the author of the competition organizer - to the studio! fool
      Whose hands itch?
      As V.S. Chernomyrdin said: “Scratch it somewhere else!”
      1. -1
        12 September 2020 20: 05
        And what will you do to them?
    74. +4
      12 September 2020 20: 34
      It is not for our generation to decide. We have already decided with the USSR.)))
    75. +1
      13 September 2020 00: 16
      Quote: Tatiana
      Do not compare Putin with the false Dmitry - with the Tikhanovskaya militia in Belarus - and with the "Soros" in the current Union of Architects of Russia!

      The fact of the matter is that this idea and policy is most likely presented by a circle of interested parties on whom the government and the president himself rely.
      He was able to stop the collapse of Russia, but either cannot or does not want to return to the USSR. A counter-revolution is underway. If the Mausoleum falls, it will be possible to systematically continue to take away what the workers and peasants have won from “capital”.
    76. +2
      13 September 2020 00: 42
      And in the Union of Architects, no one wants to develop the concept of the Kremlin without the nullified man and his entire gang?
      1. 0
        13 September 2020 12: 03
        He will retire in 2024, and whoever comes can begin to reset everyone who is dissatisfied with everything, using the most radical methods.
        1. +9
          13 September 2020 13: 05
          and whoever comes can begin to reset everyone who is dissatisfied with everything, using the most radical methods

          Let's start with you. Only... whining and “liquid secretions” won’t win you pity.
          1. 0
            13 September 2020 20: 44
            "Let's start with you." You'll have to tear your butt off your seat from the start, otherwise you and it, apparently, are already one after 30 years of sitting and braking.
            1. +8
              13 September 2020 22: 31
              Continue to whine - then we’ll tear your “mitten” away from the Master’s “chimney”, and you’ll end up with lifelong correctional labor, and not a personal aspen.
    77. -5
      13 September 2020 01: 58
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      In my opinion, Lenin should be reburied at the Kremlin wall or next to relatives, and the Mausoleum should be left as a monument to the era. It's not about some kind of political considerations, but I just personally don't like it when the deceased is on public view and the people, like an attraction, go to look at him. This is not good. First of all, it is not good for the living that they do this. So Lenin is finally buried in a human way, and you can continue to take excursions to the Mausoleum. I am against any display of the remains, including the relics of saints, and even more the worship of them. Even though he had been in Moscow for a long time, he had never been able to go to the Mausoleum.

      I fully support it! Lenin is a Great Man! But the man did not treat him humanely! We are obliged to betray Lenin’s body to the Earth! We are obliged to Preserve Lenin's Tomb!
    78. +6
      13 September 2020 05: 16
      Instead of a comment, you will immediately receive an article that was not published on this site, but I was banned.

      And on forum.msk there is silence....


      Yesterday morning, a material appeared on Mail.ru entitled “Russia has announced a competition for the best use of Lenin’s Mausoleum.” I thought it was fake, so I checked it. Apparently not. Zyuganov has already spoken. In some places on the Internet passions are already boiling. And on forum.msk there is silence...
      How so? It’s already getting dark, I finished my work and turned on the laptop. And nothing appeared until the evening. And, it seems, you are the first everywhere? For example, Mr. Baranov manages to catch every sneeze of Comrade Lukashenko and immediately react to it accordingly. What's here? Just everything, Vladimir Ilyich?
      Now to the point. The competition was announced in the Union of Architects. Probably because the Mausoleum is a structure. Their competence. Although, a certain Union of Housing and Public Utilities Management Companies could take up a similar matter. Do we have one? After all, there is heating, electricity, and maybe even sewerage in the Mausoleum. It looks like this is a business for everyone who is ordered and paid well.
      Whose ears stick out from this competition is clear to the goat. Vladimir Vladimirovich, he, of course, sometimes tries to butt Vladimir Ilyich. But he’s a little scared, and he doesn’t really succeed. And then suddenly - the initiative of the masses. I mean, architects. And why not support this initiative? Just like Tereshkova's amendment? Like, I have nothing to do with it! I was just passing by, and then people said something like that. Well, I'm with them.
      I'm sick of this, guys!
      Of course, my attitude towards the dead is the same as that of many other people. Bury them quickly, and the sooner you do this, the more they will remain alive in your soul. I have never been to the Mausoleum, and I don’t want to see dead Lenin. But I have no right to judge those people from 1924 who made such a grave for Lenin. I simply will not touch or offend THEIR GRAVE. And any other, even abandoned ones. I won’t step on it, I won’t throw rubbish on it. Like in the Southern Cemetery, where five of my loved ones already lie. This is both human and Christian.
      And I won’t even talk for long about the fact that many people from all over the world visit the Mausoleum. The Great Man's Tomb. This is their desire, this is their right.

      Vladimir Vladimirovich, have you completely lost your conscience? Or have you never had one?
      1. -1
        13 September 2020 08: 30
        Quote: Alex Vatnik
        I have never been to the Mausoleum, and I don’t want to see dead Lenin.

        But in vain. I have never seen anything more infernal and gloomy in my 60 years. To tell the truth, I was still a teenager there and therefore my impressions were very emotional. But they were completely clean of ideological dust, and I still remember well that horror and gloomy, oppressive atmosphere in the tomb of the leader of the world proletariat. Those. the devilry is terrible, in contrast to the holy relics, which I observed in different places and in abundance. Some people are making comparisons here, but they are clearly atheists. And atheism, in essence, is the same religion, but a religion of faith in unbelief. And because proving something to them is of little use both for them and for those who understand that Darwin’s teachings are a rather primitive intellectual trap for narrow-minded fools.
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    80. +2
      13 September 2020 10: 33
      why this hypocrisy!!!! maybe the Kremlin can be rebuilt - the kings sat there... or the Stalinist high-rise buildings can be demolished and rebuilt - so as not to be reminded of the leader... the liberals are starting a fuss again to have a topic for Solovyov-Skobeev trills on TV
      1. +14
        13 September 2020 22: 55
        Quote: aries2200
        The liberals are starting a fuss again

        How else. They are afraid of the revival of Lenin's ideas, and everything is heading towards this.
    81. -4
      13 September 2020 11: 07
      Lenin must be buried humanely and the mausoleum must be dismantled. Well, it doesn’t fit into ancient architecture.
    82. 0
      13 September 2020 11: 28
      Quote: scientist
      Quote: Radikal
      Perhaps, within the framework of the competition, we can also submit a proposal to remove from the Kremlin those who have nothing to do with Victory,

      In this case, the entire capital must be moved beyond the Urals. The transfer of the capital of Russia to Siberia, firstly, will neutralize nuclear missile threats from the West, secondly, it will replace a number of state programs for the development of Siberia and the Far East, and thirdly, all the rotten, corrupt elite with their pocket oligarchs will remain in Moscow.

      This is unlikely - they will find their “hole” everywhere. Your own cheese, in which they will make holes. Oh, what a pun that was created... . bully
    83. +2
      13 September 2020 11: 50
      Quote: pereselenec
      A competition has been announced in Russia for the best concept of further use of the Mausoleum "Without Lenin"


      They are in a hurry to vacate a place, or something :)


      For this and the rest of the “verses” I received a real “eight”! If it weren’t for this, he would probably have gotten off with something suspended, or with a suspended sentence for...twenty years, like some “patriots” who were in power. sad
    84. +3
      13 September 2020 11: 52
      Quote: Sergey 23
      Well then, explain in what way science and education is connected with the storage of this body for everyone to see? It is necessary to bury, but even better to cremate this is my personal opinion. And don't forget to deliver the minus.

      Did not forget. sad lol soldier
      1. +8
        13 September 2020 13: 09
        Colleague hi , don’t pay attention to these “one and a half diggers”. wink
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    86. -2
      13 September 2020 16: 26
      - Some kind of nonsense.... If a decision is made about reburial, at least a stall with shawarma can be placed in the room.
      - Why is this pile of granite without its contents? The mausoleum was designed and built specifically for its current occupant, and that is why it is interesting. Whatever they put there after will be another act of vulgarization of history - “And on the right you can see Lenin’s mausoleum! Only it’s not there...” Absurd.
      1. 0
        13 September 2020 20: 47
        "Shaverma stall." This will be the most expensive shawarma in Moscow.
        1. -1
          13 September 2020 21: 43
          - There above they suggested conducting a survey on the future fate of the Mausoleum... I agree! But! Participating in the survey should not be “old-timers” from the Soviet era (which I myself am... and our time is passing, no matter how you say it!), but those who were born after the 90s... And then the most interesting things may come to light.. ..
          - "Lenin?.... And who is this?!" And based on the results of the survey, we can decide on the fate of the Mausoleum. This is how life works - the builders of the Moscow swimming pool hardly thought about restoring the Temple!
          - No matter what the adherents of the cults wish, new generations find new idols for themselves, destroying the temples of the old ones.
        2. 0
          14 September 2020 09: 25
          Shawarma is St. Petersburg style (we have shawarma). Question for the Kremlin "St. Petersburg" people.
    87. 0
      13 September 2020 17: 18
      Lenin should be buried next to his mother, as he asked. At Madame Tussauds, order a wax copy of Lenin’s body (especially since at the moment the body is almost like a wax figure) and put it in its place.
      1. +15
        13 September 2020 22: 47
        Quote: senima56
        as he asked

        There was no such thing. He did not ask for anything and there are no written orders from him regarding the burial place. This version appeared during perestroika.
    88. +2
      13 September 2020 18: 51
      The Overton window was launched as the first step to remove reminders of the Soviet period.
      1. 0
        13 September 2020 20: 49
        In 100 years, they will begin to forget about this period, just as they have now begun to forget the previous periods.
      2. +15
        13 September 2020 22: 43
        Quote: Pavel57
        The first step is to remove reminders of the Soviet period.

        Will not work. The Soviet period in the history of the state will always be remembered.
    89. DPN
      +3
      13 September 2020 23: 52
      The scoundrels make another surge and probe the soil, but as long as the SOVIET man is alive, they will get away with it.
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    91. +2
      14 September 2020 04: 49
      Dirty perverts. The mausoleum is the heritage of the USSR - which part our stories. Not the worst part!
    92. +1
      14 September 2020 09: 19
      This is a touchstone. And don’t try to prove to me that the current rulers of Russia are not involved in this.
    93. 0
      14 September 2020 09: 26
      This is a clear article about inciting hatred.

      Unfortunately, such anti-Sovietism is untouchable.
      1. +1
        14 September 2020 13: 21
        - Rather “no” than “yes”... This article is not about the past - about the present! A sad hike.
        - The fate of the Mausoleum will be decided not by us, but by those who are now 20 - 25 years old... This generation will have nothing to do with the Union, except for school history lessons... Soon only narrow specialists will know who the Ulyanov brothers are, how the proletarian differs from bourgeois, and what is “social reality”.
        - Many of those who now play for the “Reds” remember this only thanks to Soviet-style enlightenment - when, from the kindergarten “I’m sitting on a cherry tree - I can’t get enough...” to the plump volume of “Fairy Tales of the Grandmother of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks”, a whole apparatus of political propagandists, newspapers and radio, methodically instilled into the brains of citizens the consciousness of the superiority of the socialist system. It was a powerful car...
        - It is impossible to reproduce such a device now! Even if a social cataclysm occurs, Marxism-Leninism will not return... At least not of the type from 1917 to 1991.
        - It is worth paying attention - after the collapse of the USSR, not a single one of the former republics, not a single one of the Warsaw Pact/CMEA countries remained, even formally, socialist!
        - In our reality, instead of class battles, judicial battles are possible: For the ownership of the “Communist Party” brand and the authorship of the “hammer and sickle” logo.
        1. 0
          15 September 2020 09: 20
          Yes, everything flows, everything changes.
          And Socialism will be different, and capitalism too....

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