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Hold By Dollar: US Marine Corps Seeks To Stop Pilot Outflow

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The US Marine Corps intends to pay nearly a quarter of a million dollars in bonuses to certain categories of its pilots in an effort to stem the drain and keep them in service.


On Wednesday, the command of the ILC announced that the new bonus program will provide "an active, short-term incentive for officers aviation certain categories working in niches with current or projected staff shortages ”.

Bonuses are expected to be paid to qualified aviators trained on at least one of the Corps' major aircraft platforms, including the F-35 Lightning, AV-8 Harrier and F / A-18 aircraft; helicopters MV-22 Osprey, AH-1 Cobra, CH-53 Sea Stallion and UH-1 Huey; as well as KC-130 aircraft, which are primarily used for air refueling.

As Business Insider notes, pilots flying airplanes are in the highest demand: pilots in these categories with less than 12 years of experience can receive $ 210 if they agree to an additional six years of service, or get $ 000 for an additional four of the year.

Pilots of the Osprey tiltrotor, capable of vertical take-off and landing, are allocated up to $ 125, while pilots of traditional helicopters such as the Huey, Cobra or Sea Stallion can receive up to $ 000.

Bonuses will be paid in equal annuities for the duration of the Marine's contract, the ILC said:

For example, an AV-8B pilot with less than 12 years of service with a 72-month contract will receive six equal payments of $ 35.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 12 September 2020 06: 00 New
    +4
    They do not want to serve, but if the war, where will they be brought down in batches? I think that for the sake of tolerance we need to recruit more blacks as pilots.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 12 September 2020 06: 31 New
      -1
      То есть об эскадрилье "Красные хвосты", воевавшей во 2МВ вы не слыхали?
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 12 September 2020 06: 52 New
        +8
        How do you think it is possible to connect the Red Tails squadron and the current situation in the US Air Force?
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 12 September 2020 07: 03 New
          -5
          Well, you've questioned the US Air Force's tolerance.
          Or questioned the ability of African Americans to fly combat aircraft?
          My post refutes both of your doubts.
          1. notingem
            notingem 12 September 2020 08: 31 New
            +8
            Negroes have abilities. Negroes have no desire, they already feel good
            1. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 12 September 2020 10: 25 New
              +8
              Quote: notingem
              Negroes have abilities. Negroes have no desire, they already feel good

              Sometimes the desires of blacks coincide with their capabilities.
              1. Free wind
                Free wind 12 September 2020 19: 38 New
                +4
                Oh you bl .. poor Johnny. wassat
                1. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 12 September 2020 20: 32 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Free Wind
                  Oh you bl .. poor Johnny. wassat

                  Не легкая служба у заряжающего "Абрамса". laughing
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    2. Free wind
      Free wind 12 September 2020 06: 33 New
      +9
      Blacks where it's hard, kicks can't drive them. It's easier to sit and rob on benefits.
      1. datur
        datur 12 September 2020 19: 14 New
        +1
        NOT NEGROVES, BUT AFRO-AMERICAN !!! Local! and blacks from AFRICA, SO full way !!! wink
        1. Sentury
          Sentury 14 September 2020 02: 45 New
          +2
          Афроамериканцы это не негры? Если у них это тонкая грань связанная с расизмом, то у нас расизма нет и нет никакого скрытого подтекста в слове негр, это не мат и не оскорбление. Так же можно и слово китаец убрать из лексикона заменив на "житель азиатского региона"....полнейший бред. Как раз те кто делает акцент на "правильный" подбор слов по отношению к расовой принадлежности и имеют проблему с расизмом и чувствительны к этому. Задумайтесь...
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 12 September 2020 13: 25 New
      +2
      Look how, but they tell us that it is worse than mattress MPs, navy and army, only mice in a dark barn))) I want to note that this is not even a war, when they can shoot down, with all the consequences. But what about the vaunted mattress patriotism, when stars and striped rags are hung near every house?)))
    4. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 12 September 2020 16: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Pessimist22
      They do not want to serve, but if the war, where will they be brought down in batches? I think that for the sake of tolerance we need to recruit more blacks as pilots.

      What do they want or don't want to do with it? There are various reasons - the onset of retirement age, length of service. I would wish this to our pilots. The deficit specialty is paid accordingly
      1. Beregovic_1
        Beregovic_1 13 September 2020 14: 27 New
        +2
        Quite right. Normal practice. In our army, due to the lack of drivers and mechanics, they raised their ranks and are paid a monthly payment of 50% of their salary (young people want to study as a manager, and not as a driver of category C and D). And more recently, they raised the ranks of pilots, rocket scientists and several other categories. Therefore, I see no reason to gloat over the Americans. This is a general trend. First, they educate citizens-consumers, and they want to force the best of them to be patriotic beggars.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 13 September 2020 21: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Beregovyhok_1
          Therefore, I see no reason to gloat over the Americans.

          Yes, it's not about the Americans. And in the contract army. And, if you like more broadly, in the notorious market economy.
  2. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 12 September 2020 06: 10 New
    +8
    The material incentive is a very effective thing. And with the system of contract recruitment in general, practically the only tool. So why be surprised?
    1. dauria
      dauria 12 September 2020 12: 00 New
      +1
      So why be surprised?


      The salaries of ordinary pilots and flight crew members. She's scanty in the US Army.
      23 тыс долларов в год . 35 тыс - уже уровень нашего зам ком полка. Держатся только за гарантированный соцпакет и пенсию. Медсестра или учитель получает в три раза больше. Сам офигел, но это их данные с сайтов "заманухи" спецов в США.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 12 September 2020 12: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: dauria
        So why be surprised?


        The salaries of ordinary pilots and flight crew members. She's scanty in the US Army.
        23 тыс долларов в год . 35 тыс - уже уровень нашего зам ком полка. Держатся только за гарантированный соцпакет и пенсию. Медсестра или учитель получает в три раза больше. Сам офигел, но это их данные с сайтов "заманухи" спецов в США.

        Pilot training is very expensive. So they save where they can.
        You can navigate on this issue based on the materials of this article:
        "Сколько зарабатывает летчик аэрофлота России / США и других стран".
        http://skolko-poluchaet.ru/skolko-poluchayut/zarplata-letchika.html
        1. dauria
          dauria 12 September 2020 12: 53 New
          +3
          Pilot training is very expensive

          The civilian and military difference is huge (fourfold). The civilian is at the level of the doctor, the military is at the level of the policeman. Almost the minimum salary is -8 bucks per hour. Strange, but their civil servants are beggars. In exchange for stability, early retirement and legal protection
          Кстати, насчёт дорогой подготовки - там хитрая система оплаты . Предварительный контракт после отбора. Выкинули или ушёл сам - возвращаешь государству деньги. Да и пройти отбор не имея налёта ( за свои ) маловероятно. Профпригодность оценивают сразу - 25 часов налёта на "мухлобойке" типа спортивного Як-52. И сразу вердикт.
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 13 September 2020 09: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: dauria
            Pilot training is very expensive

            The civilian and military difference is huge (fourfold). Civilian - at the level of a doctor, military - at the level of a policeman ..

            Have you studied the site for recruiting army helicopter pilots there? This is a very different calico than usaf, usn or usmc pilots.
            And about the preparation of civilians - here you have something completely beguiled. In the states, Europe: a civil pilot is not an education, from a word at all. These are very expensive courses, but 125 from your pocket can be enough.
            In the states, the problem of the shortage of civilian pilots worsened 10 years ago: after another disaster, the raid for a beginner second was limited by the requirements of a full ATP license - 1500 hours, where can they fly? request Frozen ATPL is enough in Europe, two hundred hours is enough - welcome to drive ...
            The training of a military pilot is much more expensive, of better quality, and more multifaceted, which is why they are pulled by airlines ...
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 12 September 2020 23: 38 New
        0
        Quote: dauria
        The salaries of ordinary pilots and flight crew members. She's scanty in the US Army. 23 thousand dollars a year ..

        Take a closer look at https://www.indeed.com/cmp/US-Air-Force/salaries/Pilot. And for the second contract they will throw another 20ku .., and also life taxfree ..
        1. dauria
          dauria 13 September 2020 11: 28 New
          0
          In the United States Air Force, the E-1 Private earns $ 18 a year, the E-802 Flight Crew earns $ 2, and the E-21, the First Class pilot, earns between $ 078 and $ 3, depending on from the length of service.

          In the Air Force, captains earn between $ 47 and $ 563. O-77 - Major - earns between $ 378 and $ 4. Not to be confused with our captains. There it is a position, not just a title. An ordinary pilot does not grow
          .
          And to the eyeballs. Nurse with a license of 86-100 thousand per year.

          https://www.forumdaily.com/skolko-v-ssha-platyat-voennym/
          Сайт "ГОЛОС РУССКОЯЗЫЧНОЙ АМЕРИКИ". Ненавязчиво вербуют. Зачем им себя унижать ?
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 13 September 2020 12: 32 New
            0
            And with the average American earnings, is this little money? And what about supplements and bonuses when renewing a contract? And there on this site is not written about taxfree life? Not a bad argument, too. They live very well: they do not worry and do what they like and consider possible for themselves.
            They go to civilians not only because of money, but also because of a lack of understanding of what is happening: they also have questions.
            All over the world civilians "rob" the military: the minimum level of training of military pilots is much higher, experience, discipline ...
            The topic is not new and permanent ..
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 13 September 2020 15: 34 New
              0
              Quote: dauria
              And to the eyeballs ...

              So, at a glance

              Not everything is so sad, plus bonuses ..
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 12 September 2020 15: 24 New
      -1
      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov), if we compare the material and non-material incentives in the defense of the Fatherland, it turns out that the non-material incentive will be stronger. This is evidenced by the history of warriors with the participation of mercenaries (contract soldiers) and fighters for conscription, recruitment, mobilization and other compulsory recruitment.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 12 September 2020 15: 32 New
        +2
        I cannot but agree with you!

        Но мы-то с вами говорим об американцах -- людях бездуховных. Для них выражение "оборона Отечества" понятное дело, звук пустой. Кроме как за деньги, сиречь стимул материальный, воевать они не приучены. Вот руководство КМП и готово потрясти мошной, дабы звонким долларом (резанной бумагой, цветными фантиками и пр.) привлечь лётчиков. hi
  3. demiurg
    demiurg 12 September 2020 06: 15 New
    +6
    People do not want to ruin their health when taking off from a catapult. And they don't want to go without a shore for 6-9 months. And they want to fly in some kind of delta. And spend at home every evening. And for the salary twice as large. Now there is a huge shortage of pilots on civil aircraft.
    1. Nehist
      Nehist 12 September 2020 06: 42 New
      -2
      Gg then we have no aviation at all, according to your words ..
      1. demiurg
        demiurg 12 September 2020 06: 50 New
        +8
        Our military pilots must first learn English. Then you need to retrain to watermelon, in Europe. Or Boeing, in the same place. And for three or four years to fly within your country, until the secrecy subsides.
        An American and an Englishman can do it.
        And the shortage of GA pilots is worldwide. Therefore, in the same Aeroflot or seven pilots salary at the world level.
        Just read about the crashes of all Boeing and Airbus systems in recent years. Either the pilot of the French Boeing is an Indian, or the pilot of the Pakistani airbus is a Filipino. I'm exaggerating, of course, but almost everything is.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 12 September 2020 08: 05 New
          -1
          Wow!!! But do not Boeings fly with watermelons on our airlines? Not? solid IL yes THAT? !!! You are not talking nonsense
          1. demiurg
            demiurg 12 September 2020 08: 56 New
            0
            Training for watermelons and boeings in Europe / USA. And long enough. The pilot of the Aerospace Forces will not be allowed to go abroad at once, secrecy and admissions. That is, only to retrain on Russian civil aircraft, and wait until secrecy subsides. Then take a student loan and retrain for a watermelon. And over the years, the length of service, titles, etc. will accumulate. etc.
        2. NOMADE
          NOMADE 12 September 2020 15: 38 New
          +1
          Yes, but due to recent events (covid) there is no longer a shortage of flight personnel, on the contrary, there are massive reductions, a drop in air transportation.
          On the topic, to be honest, I'm surprised at such a low salary of military pilots against the background of salary of civil aviation.
        3. certero
          certero 12 September 2020 16: 07 New
          0
          Quote: demiurg
          global shortage of GA pilots

          There is no deficit now. go to the site where the pilots groan from the fact that they cannot find work.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 12 September 2020 08: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: demiurg
      People do not want to ruin their health when taking off from a catapult.

      This is not the Navy, but the ILC. There, a maximum of two or three squadrons fly from a catapult (now only one squadron of the ILC is based on a permanent basis on board AB). The rest are ground personnel, KVVP and helicopter pilots.
  4. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 12 September 2020 06: 16 New
    +2
    And with these we have to wink
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 September 2020 06: 41 New
    +1
    So it is not tolerant there, in the US military aviation. Surely not enough representation of transgender people, LGBT people, black people and anyone else ... I don't have enough imagination. tongue
    But seriously ...
    A military pilot risks his life in peacetime, and quite often ... in almost every flight in adverse weather conditions, at night, when practicing an attack with complex types of maneuvers. Even flying in pairs.
    Don't want to serve! This is not popular among young people ... And maneuvering with overloads requires brutal health. You need to keep yourself in good shape! What for? You can earn more by sitting in an autopilot cabin and moving like a tram from one airport to another in the company of long-legged stewardesses.
    1. Nehist
      Nehist 12 September 2020 06: 44 New
      +6
      Our flyers would be paid like that !!! So they could buy kerosene for a personal account to Fly !!! We have even more problems in the Aerospace Forces, and there are not enough pilots ... And hurray the putriots gloat over the KMP flyers! your salaries would be like that
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 12 September 2020 07: 01 New
        -1
        Quote: Nehist
        could for a personal account could

        Слово "счёт" пишется ТАК. "Карасину" в ВКС хватает, летают сколько надо... И летают с удовольствием. И боевую подготовку проходят, и даже воюют всерьез... И не зарплата удерживает военных летчиков, хотя не слыхал, чтобы их с деньгами обижали...
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 12 September 2020 08: 07 New
          +1
          Where are they seriously fighting? in Syria? With the complete absence of air defense? Do not write nonsense !!!
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 12 September 2020 16: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: Nehist
          could for a personal account could

          Слово "счёт" пишется ТАК. "Карасину" в ВКС хватает, летают сколько надо... И летают с удовольствием. И боевую подготовку проходят, и даже воюют всерьез... И не зарплата удерживает военных летчиков, хотя не слыхал, чтобы их с деньгами обижали...

          The fact that not a salary is possible, because they fought in Chechnya. A pilot is a vocation
      2. unhappy
        unhappy 12 September 2020 08: 11 New
        +3
        That's no luck! We weren't born in America, eh ... (sarcasm if anything)
        It just so happened in the Russian Empire, officers also received less than their foreign counterparts. Alas.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 12 September 2020 08: 13 New
          -1
          Yes, yes ... I wonder what at one time Napoleon was eager to serve RI? Learn history and then object
          1. unhappy
            unhappy 12 September 2020 08: 21 New
            +3
            Obviously you are the smartest here. You know the history (you think so).
            They cited Napoleon as an example (but how did you find out about his motivation?), I generally forgot about the times of Alexander III, I forgot the source, but I remember the fact.
            1. Nehist
              Nehist 12 September 2020 08: 24 New
              0
              Somewhere before the time of Nicholas 1, the officer salary in Ingushetia was higher than in other countries by about one and a half times
              1. unhappy
                unhappy 12 September 2020 08: 28 New
                +3
                I do not argue, but many ambitious people wanted to get to us - for the sake of career and fame, they were nobles with their moral values, and only then mercenaries.
                1. Nehist
                  Nehist 12 September 2020 08: 33 New
                  0
                  And immediately remember the shelves of the foreign system of Ivan 3 !! What are the ambitions? What are the values? Money money and more money
                  1. unhappy
                    unhappy 12 September 2020 08: 36 New
                    +1
                    At an assembly or a ball, the attention and respect of the assembly were received by the officers, not the fat-ass merchants. Do you know the story exactly?
                    1. Nehist
                      Nehist 12 September 2020 08: 38 New
                      0
                      You tell it Demidov or Morozov !!! Gordon didn’t like asambley, De Ritter didn’t come to them at all because he was beneath his dignity. Learn history, not propaganda
                      1. unhappy
                        unhappy 12 September 2020 08: 51 New
                        +1
                        Propaganda? Where?
                        Before the revolution, the nobles retained their privileges - are you talking about propaganda, a lie? belay
                        Rich people knew their place, even a petty noble officer felt his superiority. There, in the Urals, a rich man could see respect, but not in the capital.
                        To go to the ball or not was a matter of personal taste, class relations, respect and influence were not affected.
                      2. Mountain shooter
                        Mountain shooter 12 September 2020 10: 28 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Nehist
                        He did not come at all because he was beneath his dignity. Learn history, not propaganda

                        And you learn Russian grammar !!! The word is written READ !!!
                      3. Eugene-Eugene
                        12 September 2020 14: 26 New
                        +2
                        enough and so you fucked up
  6. Bez 310
    Bez 310 12 September 2020 10: 20 New
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    A military pilot risks his life in peacetime, and quite often ... in almost every flight ...

    Yah...
    Stop bullying your readers.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 12 September 2020 10: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Bez 310
      Stop bullying your readers

      I am the son of a military pilot. It is impossible to hide the death of the pilots in the garrison ... Several people in the air regiment (30 pilots) died in my memory. And no war ... What's there to scare? Every year there is a serious medical examination in a military hospital. And they commissioned a lot. These are all the fathers of my friends. Who were leaving. So it was remembered. Military pilots also perish in peacetime. And now we hear about it ...
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 12 September 2020 10: 40 New
        -2
        On the roads of our country, driving a car, much
        more dangerous than in the cockpit of a military plane.
        Are our military pilots dying?
        Yes, it happens, but about 80% of them die through personal fault,
        так называемый "человеческий фактор". В общем, профессия
        a military pilot is no more dangerous than the profession of a chauffeur or a miner.
  • Private-K
    Private-K 12 September 2020 06: 47 New
    +4
    While a person is young, he wants adventure and all sorts of interesting things with overcoming.
    I have matured - that's all, I want a measured, calm life, guaranteed rest, so that the authorities don't fight, the loads are as small as possible ...
    War is a matter for the young ...
  • Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 12 September 2020 07: 06 New
    -1
    Ukraine will help them, for 1/10 of the price, it will send flyers.
  • Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 13 September 2020 04: 34 New
    -2
    If they beckon pilots with pies, literally belittle them to stay in the Luftwaffe, then it's a matter of seams!
    I would like to know more precisely how much?
  • Michael K
    Michael K 13 September 2020 19: 11 New
    0
    My wife flies on a broomstick. Maybe they'll take half the stake?