"We need to hit with nuclear missiles": Japan offers options for the return of the Kuriles

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"We need to hit with nuclear missiles": Japan offers options for the return of the Kuriles

Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov, commenting on the decision of the Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to resign, put hidden pressure on the new Prime Minister of Japan. Readers of the Japanese edition of Yahoo News Japan commented on the article and speculated about the options for returning the Kuril Islands.

According to the newspaper, Putin's press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that with Abe's resignation, the issue of a peace treaty between the countries did not become closer. The activities of the Japanese Prime Minister Peskov assessed positively, noting that he made a significant contribution to the development of Japanese-Russian relations.



We are very sorry that Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was forced to decide to resign. He made a significant contribution to the development of bilateral Japanese-Russian relations

- he said.

At the same time, the aide to the Russian president noted that in deciding the peace treaty between the countries, Abe put the territorial problem first, and only then the signing of the treaty itself, so the positions of Tokyo and Moscow, although they were the same, did not overlap. The author writes that Peskov "harshly" emphasized that the countries did not come close to solving the main problem.

In this statement by Peskov, the Japanese publication saw signs of hidden pressure on the new Japanese prime minister if the Japanese basic principle is preserved: "first return the islands, only then a peace treaty." According to the author, Russia is putting pressure on Japan to choose another way of concluding a peace treaty without claims to the "Northern Territories."

This article provoked the outrage of some Japanese readers:

Abe's policy on the territorial issue was not so bad. He applied various diplomatic tactics and economic measures. Russia is to blame for everything. She does not have the slightest desire to return the islands obtained as a result of the war. We will never return the "northern territories"


There is nothing for our media to sing from the Russian voice. You need to think first, and then print them. No economic aid to Putin. Until Russia returns the islands to us, no peace treaty with her


What are these Russian press secretaries talking about? Cover long-term history robbery and occupation ?! And they only need to tell us the following: "Sorry. Once upon a time they stole your territories by cunning. Here we return you with interest. We will never do this again." And if all four islands are returned, then they can be forgiven


If they don't want to return the islands - don't! No negotiations with the Russians! Let's wait until Russia itself is bent!


There is nothing but war to return the "northern territories" to us. Russia captured them by military force, and they also need to be taken away by military force. True, Japan is not ready yet. Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases
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  1. +69
    11 September 2020 08: 53
    Nuclear missiles? And, I understand, today is Friday. The wide-eyed are already in nirvana.
    1. 0
      11 September 2020 09: 23
      German Press: “What Belarus Lacks for the Arab Spring”

      Arabs for example
      1. +18
        11 September 2020 09: 33
        Quote: Civil
        German Press: “What Belarus Lacks for the Arab Spring”

        Arabs for example


        So that's an article about Japan. Missed a bit with a comment.
        1. -1
          11 September 2020 09: 34
          Quote: sergo1914
          Quote: Civil
          German Press: “What Belarus Lacks for the Arab Spring”

          Arabs for example


          So that's an article about Japan. Missed a bit with a comment.

          Something broke in the browser) sorry
          1. +22
            11 September 2020 10: 00
            Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

            The answer will be just across the capital
            1. +13
              11 September 2020 12: 01
              Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

              I wonder if this was an adult or a child! If an adult, then I am amazed at the naivety of the Japanese) Will they hit with nuclear missiles))) They do not know how many nuclear missiles we have in general? They did it for decades .. and then cut it down for decades, and what remains is 10 times it will be enough to destroy the whole earth))) And the Japanese islands - in general, 1% of our missiles will be enough to never see them on the water surface again ..)
              1. +3
                11 September 2020 14: 41
                There are enough such idiots of their "cabin" everywhere - do not pay attention to them.
                1. +1
                  12 September 2020 15: 54
                  To summarize the opinions of Japanese commentators, they are all unfriendly, vicious and aggressive. Although this is the opinion of only a small number of activists, there are no benevolent comments.
                  What should Russia do in response? Explore the islands actively! One of the promising areas is tourism: there is something to see there. I believe that many Russians would love to visit the remarkable places of the Kuril Islands. But for this, again. you need to develop the Kuriles!
              2. +3
                11 September 2020 15: 19
                They do not know how many nuclear missiles we have in general?

                They don't even know how many nuclear missiles they have.
                Otherwise, they would be silent in a rag. Yes
                There is even nothing to comment on.
                Well, except that Japan one a charge placed in the correct place is sufficient to completely eliminate it. bully
              3. +1
                11 September 2020 22: 55
                Quote: krot
                And the Japanese islands - in general, 1% of our missiles will be enough

                The Japanese completely forgot that with their population density, a dozen missiles, and about the Japanese nation, it will be possible to forget completely.
              4. +3
                12 September 2020 06: 50
                Yes, in each of the comments proposed by the editorial board, it smacks of naivety, like, for example, "no economic aid to Putin!" Considering what difficulties the Japanese economy is experiencing, it would be very interesting to know what they can offer us purely in theory. One gets the impression that the entire economy of Japan today is aimed at maintaining a proper image in the eyes of the layman.
                Abe's diplomatic tactics can also be said to be straightforward, and at best changed the rhetoric, but not the formula itself. About robbery and occupation is a sensible idea, if you add about the comfortable stay of US military bases in this country and the resulting crime inherent in new-colonism. Yes, and they will apologize to themselves, for something the Japanese do not particularly like to remember their sad participation in WWII, whose sides and ideology they welcomed. And about nuclear missiles, it's funny to hear this from a country that has experienced the power of the atom on itself, and now prohibits toys that cover this topic.
            2. 0
              11 September 2020 16: 49
              Not solid! All over the territory!
          2. -6
            11 September 2020 14: 53
            Quote: Civil
            Quote: sergo1914
            Quote: Civil
            German Press: “What Belarus Lacks for the Arab Spring”

            Arabs for example


            So that's an article about Japan. Missed a bit with a comment.

            Something broke in the browser) sorry

            take a pill and drink ... "Browser" with a hangover will stop junk ... will stop hurting.
        2. 0
          11 September 2020 13: 05
          It's strange, they usually translate arrows to Russia in any article laughing
        3. +2
          11 September 2020 15: 58
          Here is an analogy!) ... what do the Japs lack to strike with nuclear missiles? So these very missiles
    2. +8
      11 September 2020 09: 23
      Burn the ischo-eyed affluor! laughing
      1. +24
        11 September 2020 10: 01
        Well, if you count?
        A salvo from one of our submarines is enough for the whole of Japan ... In the simplest case. And we already have this weapon. But not the point ...

        If we look further into history, then we can also apply for these islands. They passed from hand to hand.
        Even southern Sakhalin was Japanese after the 1905 war.

        Moreover, when the USSR asked to return the territory of Sakhalin, Japan replied that the lost in the war is not given am

        Therefore, their forgetfulness touches feel
        Apparently, they are right about one thing! Only by war.
        1. +7
          11 September 2020 12: 12
          Quote: RealPilot
          Moreover, when the USSR asked to return the territory of Sakhalin, Japan replied that the lost in the war is not given


          So why shouldn't our Foreign Ministry take it as a habit to respond to the next claims of the Japanese about the Northern Territories with their own rewritten answers? bully
          I think it would be funny ...
        2. +7
          11 September 2020 13: 36
          Quote: RealPilot
          A salvo from one of our submarines is enough for the whole of Japan ...

          It is a great honor to spend nuclear warheads on them. They will come in handy for the Americans. Japan will be bent even without nuclear weapons. You just need to remember how many nuclear power plants they have. For each one a pair of conventional cruise missiles is enough. And then - radioactive contamination, lack of energy and, naturally, the collapse of the entire life support system of a highly urbanized state. With general chaos, epidemics, hunger, lack of management, supplies, transport. And ... his majesty hunger
    3. +9
      11 September 2020 09: 25
      Ahaha were going to strike with nuclear missiles, and they were allowed to create nuclear missiles during the occupation? Have the owner asked for time off with rockets?
      1. +10
        11 September 2020 10: 24
        Quote: Clever man
        and they were allowed to create nuclear missiles during the occupation?

        At the very least, the owner today turns a blind eye to the accumulation of "raw materials" for this business.
        1. -2
          11 September 2020 19: 58
          Are there any results? Or are you going to threaten with raw materials?
    4. +6
      11 September 2020 09: 26
      Quote: sergo1914
      Nuclear missiles? And, I understand, today is Friday. The wide-eyed are already in nirvana.

      Such threats must be taken seriously. So such thoughts exist in society. And technically, Japan is quite capable of developing nuclear weapons.
      I think it is high time for us to force Japan to a peace treaty, to burn with a nuclear warhead for a start on theirs Fujiyama. I think the contract will be signed right away. And the sacrifices will be minimal for them and the result will be quick.
      1. -8
        11 September 2020 10: 09
        And technically, Japan is quite capable of developing nuclear weapons.

        Does Japan have technical capabilities?
        So you want to say that there is at least a uranium enrichment facility in Japan? Are you seriously?
        1. +10
          11 September 2020 10: 33
          Factory in Rokkasho north of Honshu. The Tokai-mura plant was closed. So yes there is. And the Japanese themselves stated that they only need half a year
          1. +1
            12 September 2020 03: 00
            It seems like there is a man in a military uniform on Ave.
            Are you saying that you can make an atomic bomb from the fuel cells of a nuclear power plant on your knee?
            And of course, would China sit and just watch it?
            The plant in Ryokkas is supposed to provide fuel for nuclear power plants in Japan, which are abundant there. Not?
            No, of course it is possible to produce a warhead from plutonium for a nuclear power plant, but first of all who will give? The mattress covers themselves will strangle them in the first place.
            You need to understand about desires, opportunities and who is your boss. Mattress makers are not so stupid as to give the opportunity to get a response for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
            1. -1
              12 September 2020 06: 52
              The Japanese had three factories, two uranium, one plutonium !!! Now one is left. And yes, the Japanese have a very strong industrial and scientific base. We must create !!! They have already sent the Constitution imposed by the Americans ... Believe it or not, the Japanese are eager to give otvetku mattresses for hrenosima and nigersaki !!! China? I will repeat the old facts again !!! Argentina comes into conflict with nuclear Britain !!! China with the nuclear USSR !!! At least one missile, bomb with nuclear warheads participated in wars?
              1. +1
                12 September 2020 15: 03
                Quote: Nehist
                the Japanese have a very strong industrial and scientific base.

                1) but in other areas ... request look how much they broke firewood with Fukushima ...
                2) they do not have factories for enrichment to the concentrations of 235 required in AB, plutonium only from power reactors is not suitable ... feel so what needs to be built, and what will the IAEA say? hi
        2. +2
          11 September 2020 11: 28
          Quote: blackice
          And technically, Japan is quite capable of developing nuclear weapons.

          Does Japan have technical capabilities?
          So you want to say that there is at least a uranium enrichment facility in Japan? Are you seriously?

          Actually, the Westinghouse company (peaceful atom) is now owned by Japan.
          1. 0
            13 September 2020 21: 39
            Do you think that forging your Manhattan project, the Japs will be in its historical homeland
      2. +7
        11 September 2020 10: 23
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        Quote: sergo1914
        Nuclear missiles? And, I understand, today is Friday. The wide-eyed are already in nirvana.

        Such threats must be taken seriously. So such thoughts exist in society. And technically, Japan is quite capable of developing nuclear weapons.
        I think it is high time for us to force Japan to a peace treaty, to burn with a nuclear warhead for a start on theirs Fujiyama. I think the contract will be signed right away. And the sacrifices will be minimal for them and the result will be quick.

        These are just their comments on the article and nothing more. We also have enough comments on VO, but they do not have any influence on the policy of the state, so you should not attach importance to them more than they deserve.
        1. +2
          11 September 2020 11: 11
          We also have enough comments on VO.

          Yes it is.
          but they do not have any influence on the policy of the state, so you should not attach importance to them more

          But this is not at all the case. Public sentiment puts serious pressure on politics, and politics back on public sentiment. At the same time, Japan is conducting a rapid militarization and has long surpassed Russia in military power in the Far Eastern region. Nuclear war is certainly not profitable for them, this was written by a person who was not at all very clever, but in a conventional war, and with the support of allies from the other flank, all chances are actually behind them. They can theoretically use nuclear weapons as a deterrent from the transition of the conflict to the nuclear phase, like all others in general.
          1. 0
            11 September 2020 13: 46
            As long as we have nuclear weapons, it doesn’t matter what kind of advantage they have in conventional weapons, because if initially they are successful, we will transfer additional forces from other regions, which will contribute to an increase in the scale of hostilities, and if this is not enough, it will be used nuclear weapons, so that this advantage will not give them anything.
            1. 0
              11 September 2020 14: 36
              As long as we have nuclear weapons, I don't care what their advantage is in conventional weapons

              No, it is not.
              since if initially they are successful, we will transfer additional forces from other regions,

              Yeah .. for example ships from the Black Sea or from the Baltic?
              And if tensions also increase in other regions, at the same time?
              How much was the last time in the Russo-Japanese War? A year and a half or two? No, now the transport infrastructure will certainly be better, but military operations can also be more transient.
              and if this is not enough, then nuclear weapons will be applied

              Will it be exactly? For the sake of four islands will they decide? Even if these 4 islands are captured by Japan quickly and relatively bloodlessly? Even if Japan has something to answer?
              1. +1
                11 September 2020 16: 18
                That is, in your opinion, they are occupying our islands and we will accept it?
                "For the four islands?" Yes, for the sake of these four islands, because they are part of the territory of the Russian Federation, in case you forgot.
                1. -1
                  11 September 2020 21: 49
                  That is, in your opinion, they are occupying our islands and we will accept it?

                  No, that you, why will we accept. Of course, it will not reconcile itself, but Russia will not dare to take a nuclear strike on the civilian population either. And it will not be able to resist Japan by conventional means. It will be in about the same position as Ukraine and Crimea.
                  1. +3
                    11 September 2020 23: 46
                    Quote: alexmach
                    That is, in your opinion, they are occupying our islands and we will accept it?

                    No, that you, why will we accept. Of course, it will not reconcile itself, but Russia will not dare to take a nuclear strike on the civilian population either. And it will not be able to resist Japan by conventional means. It will be in about the same position as Ukraine and Crimea.

                    And here you are absolutely wrong! I don’t know why you considered only the transfer of ships as our response measure, apparently you were stuck in 1905 and were not aware that we have strategic and tactical aviation, missile systems, so we have something to answer. Moreover, nuclear weapons are not only strategic, but also tactical. All this, as you understand, can be transferred very quickly, so that your version does not stand up to criticism.
                    1. 0
                      12 September 2020 11: 33
                      so your version doesn't hold water.

                      I have not seen any substantive criticism yet, except for the argument about avivation.
                      Indeed, aviation has the most room for maneuver between theaters. But first of all, Japan also has all this, well, except for strategists. And there is also the opportunity to base their aviation on Hokaido, much closer to the islands of the Kuril ridge. A strike by strategists on the infrastructure will be followed by a symmetrical response in the Far East (they have something).
                      Also, you are looking at the 1: 1 situation with Japan, but what if someone else intervenes? What if at the same time there is military tension in the European or Central Asian direction? Or both at the same time. After all, Japan can choose a convenient moment for an attack. Will there be something to maneuver?
                      In addition, nuclear weapons are not only strategic, but also tactical.

                      What does it matter? especially given their population density? Well, get a reply Across Vladivostok, not with strategic but tactical weapons. And most likely just by what it is, because no one will bother too much about calculating the proportionality of the answer. The use of nuclear weapons is the last argument, after which there will most likely be no turning back. Yes, the islanders in a nuclear war will really have a hard time, but it won't make it any easier for us.

                      If I don't say anything about the fact that "everything is lost" and "Katz offers to surrender." I'm talking about the fact that Japan is capable of creating a very serious military threat to Russia in the Far East, and these shabby-handed sentiments of the times of 1904 are not at all appropriate here, because you can easily repeat the lesson of history. It is necessary to be seriously prepared for this, in the military sense, first of all, and not to tell "Yes, we, Yes, if anything, Yes, a nuclear power .."
                      1. +1
                        13 September 2020 01: 00
                        How right you are. I'm already tired of proving here that the militarization of Japan is a bad sign for us. A lot of facts suggest that they can seize the initiative and most likely they will. The very geography and the presence of a powerful fleet coupled with the brand new F-35 speaks volumes. The war with Japan will turn out to be not just a defeat for us, it will be the beginning of a disaster. And here we will see how Kadyrov will behave and what will sing. I always tried to write cautious comments so as not to collect minuses, but not this time. Minus.
                      2. 0
                        13 September 2020 11: 48
                        Quote: don-1500
                        How right you are. I'm already tired of proving here that the militarization of Japan is a bad sign for us. A lot of facts suggest that they can seize the initiative and most likely they will. The very geography and the presence of a powerful fleet coupled with the brand new F-35 speaks volumes. The war with Japan will turn out to be not just a defeat for us, it will be the beginning of a disaster. And here we will see how Kadyrov will behave and what will sing. I always tried to write cautious comments so as not to collect minuses, but not this time. Minus.

                        Is the militarization of Japan a bad sign for us? Does the growing power of China worry you? And the approach of NATO bases to our borders does not pose any threat to us? Do you also not notice the growing ambitions of Turkey? So we need to strengthen ourselves in all regions.
                      3. 0
                        13 September 2020 13: 05
                        All of you are correct. Both Turkey and NATO are forcing us to be constantly "in good shape." But in my commentary I mentioned one notorious "hero of Russia" who has grown with personal guards nowhere else. 100% of it will be changed instantly, and here is the second real threat of war. In this case, what will we do? Also use nuclear weapons?
                      4. 0
                        13 September 2020 14: 38
                        If our power vertical collapses, the consequences will be catastrophic and irreversible even without the participation of the "hero of Russia."
                      5. 0
                        13 September 2020 09: 51
                        I said that your version does not stand up to ANY criticism, that is, even one like mine. You are talking about the preponderance of Japan in the Far East, but the situation is similar in other areas. On the Black Sea, the preponderance of Turkey, in the west, the preponderance of NATO, etc. And we will not change the state of affairs either now or in the foreseeable future. You talk about the need to strengthen our capabilities in the Far East, but we are threatened from ALL directions. That is why nuclear weapons are the guarantor of security for us. That is why its application in the cases described by you is quite realistic. Moreover, if we allow Japan to seize our islands, then this will serve as a signal for other countries to do the same in other directions, and this is another reason why nuclear weapons WILL be used. You confidently declare that we will not use nuclear weapons. Who told you that? Did the President share with you a secret? Or did you yourself participate in the development of defense plans in the Far East? Not ? Well, then it’s inappropriate to say here what you don’t know. And then they imagined themselves to be a great strategist. Be a little more modest, in our General Staff, people are no more stupid than you, and believe me, they do not eat their bread for nothing.
                      6. 0
                        13 September 2020 11: 39
                        I said that your version does not stand up to ANY criticism, that is, even one like mine

                        The statement "no, this will not happen" is not criticism. Criticism requires argumentation. "And we have nuclear weapons" is also not argumentation.
                        Turkey's preponderance on the Black Sea

                        Russia has neither a land border nor disputed territories with Turkey. So there is a small intersection of interests in Syria and in Armenia - that is, in a foreign land.
                        Who told you that? Did the President share with you a secret? Or did you yourself participate in the development of defense plans in the Far East? Not ? Well, then it’s inappropriate to say here what you don’t know. And then they imagined themselves to be a great strategist. Be a little more humble

                        Don't you understand that the same statement applies equally to you? :)
                        You talk about the need to strengthen our capabilities in the Far East, but we are threatened from ALL directions.

                        This means that they must be strengthened from all directions ((c) your Captain Obvious). Here you are talking about the transfer of aircraft, but do you understand that in order to transfer it, you need a certain infrastructure? Airfields, on which, by the way, the enemy will strike, Some kind of cover with air defense systems. Stocks of Fuel, spare parts and ammunition. Service personnel. Or throw it all by air at one hour? Look, for example, at what the same US is doing at the western borders.
                      7. 0
                        13 September 2020 12: 03
                        Well, in general, it was you who began to make self-confident statements, so I showed you that this is just your purely personal opinion, and you are trying to pass it off as the ultimate truth. I have already presented the arguments in favor of using nuclear weapons. Although for some reason you decided that we will use it against the civilian population. You have some strange logic. It seems that everyone has long been told for what purposes it will be used. You probably missed this moment. I am also aware of the need to create infrastructure. Are you aware that it is being created? Of course, we would like it to happen faster, but we have threats not only in the east. And we will definitely not be able to create an advantage in all directions. I repeat, that is why we are talking about nuclear weapons as a guarantor of security and that is why its use is more than realistic. And I think that's why Japan never dared to do what you are talking about.
                      8. 0
                        13 September 2020 17: 30
                        that this is just your purely personal opinion, and you are trying to pass it off as the ultimate truth

                        I am as "mortal" as you are and I am not inclined to broadcast the ultimate truths. The forum is a place to exchange opinions and this is my opinion against yours. And it's generally okay when opinions differ.
                        Although for some reason you decided that we would use it against civilians

                        Can it be used against Japan, but not against civilians? How is this technically possible?
                        It seems that everyone has long been told for what purposes it will be used. You probably missed this moment.

                        Really missed. Who where and when could say that?
                        Are you aware that it is being created? Of course, we would like it to happen faster, but we have threats not only in the east. And we will definitely not be able to create an advantage in all directions.

                        Well, first of all, how does it follow that we cannot create it in all directions?
                        And secondly, I am actually talking about this, that it is necessary not to engage in a haphazard manner, but to soberly assess the real prospects of confrontation, and the real balance of forces, and based on this, plan your actions.
                        I repeat, this is why we are talking about nuclear weapons as a guarantor of security and that is why its use is more than realistic.

                        And I will repeat myself. This is precisely the opinion that is deeply mistaken. Nuclear weapons cannot be a guarantor of security in any situation. Strategic security and some kind of stability, of course, yes, but it will not protect against local conflicts. For example, the presence of nuclear weapons in Russia in 2008 did not stop Georgia. And I had to stop it in quite conventional ways. And by the way, the Turks who shot down the Su-24 were not stopped at all by nuclear weapons.
                        The presence of nuclear weapons is undoubtedly the most important factor of survival for Russia, but it is by no means a magic wand for any occasion.
                      9. +1
                        13 September 2020 18: 46
                        You contradict yourself. You say that you are a "mere mortal" and are not inclined to broadcast the ultimate truths, then you say that it is my opinion that is deeply mistaken. Who told you that my opinion is wrong? You are a simple mortal and you can be wrong too.
                        Regarding the targets for our nuclear weapons, the President of the Russian Federation said that these would be decision-making centers, naval bases, etc.
                        How not to use nuclear weapons against civilians? Easy. Do not strike where there are no targets worthy of the destruction of nuclear weapons. Of course, no one says that not a single civilian will suffer, but since you attacked us, you yourself are to blame. The use of nuclear weapons against civilians is the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You understand that it was an act of intimidation, and not only and not so much by Japan as by the Soviet Union.
                        About creating excellence in all areas. Do you see the pace of rearmament, our army? The rate of commissioning of ships and submarines, the rate of construction of combat aircraft (not to mention the fifth generation, which is not yet in the army at all). And what superiority can we say?
                        And the last thing .. It is generally indecent to compare Georgia's attack on South Ossetia and Japan's attack on Russia.
                      10. 0
                        13 September 2020 22: 05
                        Who told you that my opinion is wrong?

                        Lack of intelligible reasoning for this opinion.
                        Belief in nuclear weapons as a solution to all problems and protection from all threats, but this, in principle, does not happen.
                        Operating with emotions, not facts.
                        Regarding the targets for our nuclear weapons, the President of the Russian Federation said that these would be decision-making centers, naval bases, etc.

                        Name a decision-making center, a naval base, etc. in Japan. on which it is possible to strike nuclear weapons and at the same time not offend a million or two civilians?
                        You understand that it was an act of intimidation, and not only and not so much by Japan as by the Soviet Union

                        And what does this have to do with the issue we are discussing?
                        Do you see the pace of rearmament, our army?

                        I see and write about this. Russia has about the same number of modern aircraft models as Japan, and in one theater of operations. And it is not clear what is in general with the airfield infrastructure. What and where are you going to transfer in such a situation? And where is that advantage in quantity over the Woodnerwaves you wrote about?
                        Comparing Georgia's attack on South Ossetia and Japan's attack on Russia is generally indecent.

                        why is it indecent? what's so bad about that? The fact that it refutes your thesis about the YAO-wand as a lifesaver for all occasions? Why throw words and ignore their meaning?
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                      12. +1
                        13 September 2020 23: 21
                        It turns out that you understood absolutely nothing or did not want to understand. The lack of intelligible argumentation is just for you. Belief in nuclear weapons as a solution to all problems? Where did you find this at the fine? I have specifically described to you in what cases and why it can be applied. Read carefully.
                        Name targets in Japan? The General Staff will tell you this, I, unlike you, do not take on their functions. A couple of million people? I have already answered this. Nobody promised you that none of the civilians would suffer, they attacked themselves, they themselves are to blame.
                        Don't you understand where Hiroshima and Nagasaki have to do with it? Well, why can't you understand the most elementary things? I gave you an example of a blow to the civilian population without destroying important military targets.
                        Where is the advantage over the wunderwaves that I wrote about? And I didn't write that at all. On the contrary, I wrote that we will not be able to get advantages in the foreseeable future. You really do not misinterpret what I wrote.
                        Now about the comparison of Georgia and Japan. Do you really see the difference between Georgia's attack on South Ossetia (not on Russia!) And Japan's attack on Russia to seize territory? In addition, Georgia is clearly many times weaker than Russia and it is not clear why we should have raised the issue of using or burdened with nuclear weapons. On the contrary, I said that nuclear weapons are used when we cannot defend ourselves in other ways. And for some reason you cannot understand this either. Do you even read my comments, or do you just pick out the first and last lines with your eyes?
                  2. 0
                    13 September 2020 21: 48
                    For some reason, you do not realize that we fought for Crimea, Abkhazia / Ossetia, Transnistria, Donbass, Syria, Georgia, and so on on trifles, but we will not fight for our own blood, by any means, are you serious? Especially considering the fact that the Japs have not fought anywhere for a long time and the whole spirit remained in the museum about the medieval country. Fuck everything that is convenient, the transfer of troops will be out of place, we will cover Tiao from the islands, we will destroy the troops, energy and ports, the majority of people will be alive, they will not understand, it will be tougher.
                    1. 0
                      13 September 2020 22: 15
                      For some reason, you do not realize that we fought for Crimea, Abkhazia / Ossetia, Transnistria, Donbass, Syria, Georgia, and so on on trifles, but we will not fight for our own blood, by any means, are you serious?

                      Georgia - 0 modern aircraft, 3,5 million population right here at hand
                      Japan - 200 modern aircraft, population comparable to Russia, and in a remote theater of operations with difficult logistics.
                      Yes seriously.
                      Especially considering that the Japs have not fought anywhere for a long time and the whole spirit remained in the museum about a medieval country

                      Yeah .. take and throw hats.
                      1. 0
                        14 September 2020 21: 38
                        Yeah ... we'll throw bombs. If you put at least a billion yaps on an even smaller island, then how will it help her to cope with a country that has nuclear weapons on a giant territory. In Georgia, almost all former weapons from the Union were modernized by Israel and NATO, including the United States, incl. airplanes and air defense, you just remember. There are no options here, even just for reasons of logistics.
                      2. -1
                        14 September 2020 22: 40
                        In Georgia, almost all of the former weapons from the Union were modernized by Israel and NATO, including the United States, incl. airplanes and air defense, you just remember

                        What other planes then? Those Su-25s didn’t take off, perhaps?
                        Air defense? based on a pair of beeches and a pair of surveillance radars? No .. of course there was some, and it was suppressed, but to talk about the super-duper modernization, this is somehow very little.
                      3. 0
                        16 September 2020 21: 15
                        Obstinacy in the obvious is your strong point, even Georgian tanks, equipped with Israeli PNV, displays, etc., can be considered a super-duper for Soviet technology
                      4. -1
                        17 September 2020 00: 13
                        Hmm ...
                        including the USA, incl. aircraft

                        What other planes then?

                        Obstinacy in the obvious is your strong point, even Georgian tanks

                        Yes .. I really do have obstinacy skates. I don't want to accept
                        Georgian tanks equipped with Israeli anti-tank weapons

                        For modernized aircraft. :)
                        It's really difficult with me.

                        But returning to the original discussion, I generally accept and agree that Japan, due to its geography, is quite vulnerable in a large-scale modern war, and that Russia has some means of waging this war.
                      5. 0
                        18 September 2020 22: 36
                        The same su25, the Yankees have modernized the communication systems, the rest is already boring. Returning there, I will note that "some funds from Russia" will not leave anything from Japan, well, it might be a haiku:
                        "Even coughing,
                        I stay
                        Lonely" -
                        Ozaki Hosai
                    2. +1
                      13 September 2020 23: 24
                      He has some kind of strange logic. It already seems to me that he is not Russian at all, he does not understand very simple things.
                      1. 0
                        14 September 2020 21: 41
                        It happens, but the logic of the use of the Armed Forces must exist, you cannot seriously compare the military parity of Russia and the Japs on the basis of population size
            2. 0
              11 September 2020 14: 44
              In the event of war, Russia will use all of its strategic aviation, which can unleash more than 800 cruise missiles on Japan in the first raid.
            3. -1
              11 September 2020 20: 25
              For my taste, it is not necessary to wait for their superiority, but to immediately strike nuclear weapons at key military and industrial facilities (warning in advance, in peacetime, so that there are no illusions and will not be offended later). Like what the United States did in WWII. If my memory serves me right, then something similar is described in recent documents (official) on the use of nuclear weapons.
              1. 0
                11 September 2020 21: 51
                For my taste, there is no need to wait for their preponderance

                I mean, don't have to wait? They already have it. Will you strike already?
                1. +1
                  11 September 2020 22: 19
                  Certainly not now (I'm not as bloodthirsty as you thought).
                  I mean. that we must honestly and clearly warn about what will happen in the event of an attempt to solve the problem of the "northern territories" by force (hoping for superiority in conventional weapons and our humanity and philanthropy).
                  1. -1
                    11 September 2020 22: 23
                    Yeah .. and now imagine that a forester came, Trump was in the wash and also warned about something? For example, about the inadmissibility of using weapons of mass destruction?
          2. 0
            12 September 2020 19: 41
            Quote: alexmach
            but in a conventional war, and with the support of the allies from the other flank, they actually have all the chances.

            what are the chances behind them? merge all your wunderwafe in a month and stay with a bare booty? now in the courtyard of the 21st century and the entire territory of Japan in the affected area, including nuclear power plants, and factories and ports.
            and what allies do you write about? about NATO that the US said a couple of years ago that they would not fit in for them? well, good allies. with such you can go straight to nuclear war. the transition to the Stone Age will be faster and less painful. request
            PS
            today is the 12th, tomorrow is a month like .... have you forgotten about our dispute yet? a month has passed and Luka is quite firmly in Minsk.
            1. 0
              12 September 2020 23: 19
              merge all your wunderwafe in a month and stay with a bare booty?

              For some reason, do you think that Russia has more "wunderwaffe", or that it will "merge" them more slowly?
              now the 21st century is in the yard and the entire territory of Japan is in the affected area

              And not just Japan.
              including NPP

              This is no longer a war, but a war crime actually
              about NATO that the US said a couple of years ago that they would not fit in for them?

              When did this NOTO tell me so interesting? I mean they won't fit in? In Augustanistan and Iraq they seem to fit in, they take part in exercises against Russia. Some even beckon to fit in as soon as possible.
              today is the 12th, tomorrow is a month like .... have you forgotten about our dispute yet? a month has passed and Luka is quite firmly in Minsk.

              Ha. No, I haven't forgotten. Welcome to PM with coordinates.
              1. +1
                12 September 2020 23: 46
                Quote: alexmach
                For some reason, do you think that Russia has more "wunderwaffe", or that it will "merge" them more slowly?

                I have reason to think so. the military doctrine of the USSR, and as the successor of Russia, is designed for a protracted war, the military doctrine of Japan for the blitzkrieg. in Japan they make small series of high-tech weapons, in Russia they make less complex but large series. for the Japanese, the main requirement is technical superiority; in Russia, simplicity of production and mass production for the possibility of recovering losses. in fact, Japan is following the same rake as in 1942. They can inflict one-time damage but cannot recover losses.
                Quote: alexmach
                And not just Japan.

                in in. Not only. also the EU, and they will definitely think 10 times before they fit in, and as a result they will send the Japanese with their gamble, as they sent the USA (!!!) with attempts to threaten the DPRK.
                Quote: alexmach
                This is no longer a war, but a war crime actually

                why is it? The United States over there burned entire cities, sometimes with nuclear weapons, and never became war criminals. energy supply infrastructure will be one of the main targets. by itself in the event of an armed conflict.
                Quote: alexmach
                When did this NOTO tell me so interesting? I mean they won't fit in? In Augustanistan and Iraq they seem to fit in, they take part in exercises against Russia. Some even beckon to fit in as soon as possible.

                fit well when you are not personally in danger and you can rob it well wink but when the United States decided to threaten the DPRK with nuclear weapons, Stoltenberg suddenly made a statement that if there is no attack on the territory of a NATO country, and Guam, on which Comrade Eun was going to launch a missile, is not formally a US territory, then the alliance cannot provide support since this is contrary to the charter of the alliance. how it comes out when you can get it on your own laughing NATO's flexible charter allows you to refuse to participate in the conflict or limit yourself to symbolic assistance ... the bureaucracy was not just invented!
      3. +1
        11 September 2020 11: 28
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        Such threats must be taken seriously. So such thoughts exist in society. And technically, Japan is quite capable of developing nuclear weapons.
        I think it's high time for us to force Japan to a peace treaty, bang with a nuclear warhead for a start on theirs Fujiyama

        Well, this is exactly the same threat. How are you more adequate than any Japanese inadequate users?
    5. +3
      11 September 2020 09: 44
      Quote: sergo1914
      Nuclear missiles? And, I understand, today is Friday. The wide-eyed are already in nirvana.

      In general, they have lost their fear, they do not understand that after they will be full of Fukushima throughout the territory
      1. +4
        11 September 2020 09: 59
        Quote: FenH
        In general, they have lost their fear, they do not understand that after they will be full of Fukushima throughout the territory

        Rather, the new Hiroshima.
        1. 0
          11 September 2020 10: 08
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: FenH
          In general, they have lost their fear, they do not understand that after they will be full of Fukushima throughout the territory

          Rather, the new Hiroshima.

          A not so powerful charge was thrown off on Hiroshima, (18 kilotons) they continued to live in it. Now the charges are much more powerful (Yars-150 and more kilotons), so it will be like on Fukushima, a complete apocalypse hi
        2. +2
          11 September 2020 10: 16
          Hiroshima is a flower compared to modern nuclear missiles. A modern BG is at least 10 times more powerful, plus it will not be alone. After otvetki Japan as a state and as a territory will cease to exist, adults understand this, while the Japanese brought up in anime format seem to remain in childhood. The Japanese islands are very unstable, like the entire Cyril Ridge, you won't be able to run away and hide.
    6. +2
      11 September 2020 10: 02
      And if Russia, in response, accidentally hits Tokyo or the famous Japanese Mount Fujiyama, where the Japanese will find themselves, in the Marianas depression, or all together and at once run over to their "brothers for a century" Anglo-Saxons to their freest, cleanest, most unsullied, the most successful and generally the most, very, very America ...
      1. +3
        11 September 2020 10: 52
        The memory is short ...
    7. 0
      11 September 2020 10: 51
      There is nothing but war to return the "northern territories" to us. Russia captured them by military force, and they also need to be taken away by military force. True, Japan is not ready yet. Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

      The USSR took the Kuriles, because they were not on the side of Hitler to fight. As for the war and nuclear strikes ... well, let them try. And here I have one question - what will remain of Japan after the dust settles.
      1. -9
        11 September 2020 11: 04
        Quote: NEXUS
        The USSR took the Kuriles, because they were not on the side of Hitler to fight

        As far as I remember, there was no official alliance between Japan and Germany. Everyone was for himself.
        During World War II (1939-1945), military cooperation between them was limited due to the great distance between the Axis powers: for the most part, Japan and Germany fought separate wars and eventually surrendered separately.
        1. +8
          11 September 2020 11: 29
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          As far as I remember, there was no official alliance between Japan and Germany. Everyone was for himself
          "Anti-Comintern Pact" - an agreement signed on November 25, 1936 in Berlin between Germany and Japan, which formalized under the flag of the struggle against the Communist International. The term of the pact was initially set at 5 years, in 1941 it was extended for another 5 years.
          1. -6
            11 September 2020 14: 11
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Anti-Comintern Pact "- an agreement signed on November 25, 1936 in

            What about a non-attack pact?
            I'm waiting for the cons)
            1. +5
              11 September 2020 14: 44
              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              What about a non-attack pact?
              I'm waiting for the cons)

              Why minus. There was a pact, but there was an axis too. and the USSR did not violate the pact for the time being. But the USSR also had an agreement with the allies, who helped to defeat the Reich. At the same time, Japan established a 731 center near our borders, and the documents found featured the use of biological weapons against our country. And there were also plans for an attack. So everything was done on time and right. And how many provocations there were after the beginning of the Second World War by the Japanese, and how many of our people were captured, and other articles need to be written about this.
        2. +4
          11 September 2020 11: 36
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          As far as I remember, there was no official alliance between Japan and Germany.

          On September 27, 1940, Germany, Italy and Japan signed the Triple Pact, which became known as the Axis Alliance. This is an OFFICIAL document.
        3. +2
          11 September 2020 17: 28
          Dear Alexey Sommer (Alexey Sommer), you did not study history well at school. Let me remind you that there was an "Axis" alliance, an anti-Comintern tripartite pact also between Germany, Italy and Japan. According to the agreements between Germany and Japan, Japan withdrew the entire territory of the USSR from the Ural Mountains. The territory up to the Ural Mountains was to belong to Germany. And the fact that Japan was preparing and was ready to enter the war on the side of Germany is obvious. Another thing is why she did not join and got involved in the war in the Pacific. But, that's another question. And the answer to it must be sought in the actions of the red army, above all the victory near Moscow, and in the entry into the war of the United States on the side of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition.
          1. -4
            11 September 2020 18: 43
            Quote: The Truth
            Dear Alexey Sommer (Alexey Sommer), you did not study history well at school. Let me remind you that there was a union of the "axis

            You are all right.
            They just forgot that it was not a military alliance. There were no items on mutual military assistance. And so that yes minus correctly instructed. We know how to press the button.
        4. +2
          11 September 2020 20: 04
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          As far as I remember, there was no official alliance between Japan and Germany. Everyone was for himself.

          Have you thought well? And we look so closely ...
          Berlin Pact (1940)
          The Government of the Great Japanese Empire, the Government of Germany and the Government of Italy, recognizing the provision of each state with the opportunity to take its place in the world as a preliminary and necessary condition for long-term peace, consider the main principle to create and maintain a new order necessary for the peoples in the regions of Great East Asia and Europe could reap the benefits of coexistence and mutual prosperity of all interested nations, express their determination to mutually cooperate and take concerted action in the indicated areas with regard to efforts based on these intentions. The governments of the three powers, full of desire to cooperate with all states that are making such efforts around the world, are full of desire to demonstrate their unyielding will for world peace, for which the government of the Great Japanese Empire, the government of Germany and the government of Italy have concluded the following agreement.
          Article 1. Japan recognizes and respects the leading positions of Germany and Italy in the establishment of a new order in Europe.

          Article 2. Germany and Italy recognize and respect Japan's leading position in establishing a new order in Greater East Asia.

          Article 3. Japan, Germany and Italy agree to carry out mutual cooperation based on the specified course, if one of the three contracting parties is attacked by any power that is not currently participating in the European war and the Sino-Japanese conflict, then the three countries undertake to render mutual assistance by all political, economic and military means at their disposal.

          Article 4. For the purpose of implementing the present pact, a joint commission appointed by the Government of Japan, the Government of Germany and the Government of Italy shall be established without delay.

          Article 5. Japan, Germany and Italy confirm that the above articles in no way affect the political course that currently exists between each of the three parties to the pact and the Soviet Union.

          Article 6. The present pact comes into force from the moment of its signing. The pact is valid for ten years from the date of entry into force. The Contracting Parties, at the request of one of the powers that have entered into the pact, will discuss the issue of revising this treaty at any time before the expiration of this period.

          Questions? Or is it not a military treaty at all?
    8. +1
      11 September 2020 11: 11
      Who cares what Japanese "readers" think or write? That is, Japanese officials are silent, so we will repost comments from housewives calling for a nuclear war on VO?
    9. +7
      11 September 2020 14: 05
      The Japanese themselves run up ... Insolent at the end.
    10. 0
      12 September 2020 15: 38
      Quote: sergo1914
      And, I understand, today is Friday. The wide-eyed are already in nirvana.

      No, colleague, it's not Friday! They just think that minke whales through Hiroshima and Nagasaki gave them immunity from radiation. Probably, this explains their post-war friendship, unfaithful! Sorry for the cynicism, but I just don't know how else to explain such stupid posts ?!
  2. +4
    11 September 2020 08: 54
    See what narrow-eyed warlike laughing
    1. +3
      11 September 2020 10: 41
      Quote: Dizel200
      See what narrow-eyed warlike laughing

      And then! Along the way, they have been pouring sake like a river since yesterday evening and they have been eating it without eating. Apparently, after lunch they will present territorial claims to China, and in the late afternoon they will stick the Japanese flag in the globe and beat the geisha. angry
      PS - and in the morning, as usual, they will clean the boots for the mattresses.
    2. 0
      11 September 2020 11: 40
      Yes, such warriors that there were battles for only one island.
      The rest of our people went to receive the garrisons of these islands what
    3. 0
      11 September 2020 11: 55
      Quote: Dizel200
      See what narrow-eyed warlike laughing

      Some Japanese, bay of sake with his narrow eyes, got out into the net with his crap, and here they are already seriously discussing it as an official statement of the government. Even here, on VO, there are enough similar users calling for "zhahnut" vigorous loaves of Washington, Kiev, Warsaw ...
  3. +6
    11 September 2020 08: 56
    Dreamers .... given the state of their territory, they can only dream and have.
    1. +5
      11 September 2020 10: 54
      Quote: Egoza
      Then bomb them as much as possible, then we will swim and collect the remaining Japanese women - there is no need for good to disappear ...

      This is what this Japanese woman is singing about ... fellow
      1. 0
        11 September 2020 13: 26
        Quote: Egoza
        Then bomb them as much as we can, then we will swim and collect the remaining Japanese women - there is no need for good to disappear ..

        Andrei! And where did you get such a quote from me? I didn't write that. Or is it someone else scribbling under my nickname again?
      2. +3
        11 September 2020 19: 22
        Andrey Batkovich ... test, .Tanaki test ... dove of peace ... everything ... we will not bomb them
        1. +2
          11 September 2020 19: 54
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          test, .Tanaki test ... dove of peace ... everything ... we will not bomb them

          Here you can finally feel good ... drinks

          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          Andrey Batkovich ...

          Sergeevich... soldier
          1. +1
            11 September 2020 21: 17
            well Sergeevich all one test, ... positive whatever one may say. I am personally in ahu .... if Tanaki and his Kent come to us in Crimea with their repertoire, then ........ just respect will be ... ATP that through the network introduced me to this Japanese woman .... better to sing how to scatter like a kernel
  4. +4
    11 September 2020 08: 56
    Let your eyes dream) laughing
    1. +7
      11 September 2020 09: 16
      Let your eyes dream
      Once they already dreamed, everyone knows how it ended. So it's better to let the cartoons draw.
      1. -6
        11 September 2020 10: 03
        Quote: stalki
        Once they already dreamed, everyone knows how it ended.

        ChemulPo - Port Arthur - Tsushima - revolutions of 1905/1917 ...
        1. +2
          11 September 2020 10: 12
          Not only.
          China, Pacific Islands. We almost reached Australia. During WWII, they "had fun" over a large area.
        2. +3
          11 September 2020 12: 25
          ChemulPo - Port Arthur - Tsushima - revolutions of 1905/1917 ...
          Yes, I didn't mean it, but that one time, when the Americans fried them with special cynicism on a nuclear fire (in my opinion, this is the brightest episode of their dreams). We, too, may run out of patience, may not be so cynical, but backhand for sure. And the Russian-Japanese one is our shame, thanks to Nikolai, the logistics was at zero, there was no centralized system, but what to say about it, it's a shame. But now the situation is completely different, there is no rag at the helm, the army is being restored, and the weapons in relation to the territory are lethal, but they are too small.
        3. +7
          11 September 2020 14: 09
          They forgot about August 1945 and the surrender of the Kwantung Army.
    2. +1
      11 September 2020 10: 00
      Quote: Trevis
      Let your eyes dream)

      Dreams, dreams, where are your sweets.
  5. +3
    11 September 2020 08: 58
    laughing What kind of japanese ichthyander is inflated with missiles to threaten us?
  6. +5
    11 September 2020 08: 58
    The Japanese understand everything correctly - they lost territories during the war - they can only be returned through the war.
    1. +3
      11 September 2020 09: 19
      Quote: Pavel57
      The Japanese understand everything correctly - they lost territories during the war - they can only be returned through the war.

      And what about Okinawa, it won't burn, but well, this is the base, "This is different!"
      1. +7
        11 September 2020 14: 12
        Quote: edmed
        Well this is the base, "This is different!"

        Aha, another, called an occupation Yes
        The occupied presented themselves as a "free great country")
  7. +4
    11 September 2020 08: 59
    The northern territories "we cannot return anything except war ...

    And rightly so, never return.
    But about the war, try it. Khalkhin Gol and Manchuria have been forgotten, but in vain ...
    Russia can be defeated by hitting with nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital ...

    Japanese home-grown hawks frolic in verbiage ... First you need to create these missiles, and only then threaten the neighbors.
    1. +7
      11 September 2020 14: 14
      Quote: Doccor18
      hawks

      Hawks? No, what hawks ... The Japanese are so-so, clucking like hens ...
  8. +10
    11 September 2020 09: 00
    Nuuu .... comments on Yahoo News are just connected to the internet by a madhouse. I don't understand why VO is doing this at all.
    1. +6
      11 September 2020 09: 21
      Friday, buddy, clean neighing!
      1. +6
        11 September 2020 09: 39
        Friday, buddy, clean neighing!


        Here I am a fool - I forgot that Friday ... good Then bomb them as much as possible, then we will swim and collect the remaining Japanese women - there is no need for good to disappear ... laughing
        1. +3
          11 September 2020 09: 43
          that's it!!! happy friday! drinks
        2. +2
          11 September 2020 10: 01
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Here I am a fool - I forgot that Friday ...

          Beer day Friday, you can forgive.
        3. +2
          11 September 2020 12: 06
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          then we will swim and collect the remaining Japanese women - there is no need for good to disappear ...

          They are all beautiful only in pictures on the internet, but if you wash off makeup from Japanese women ...

          1. 0
            11 September 2020 22: 57
            oooh author, and what should I do now? Stop watching anime? Sadness ...
            1. 0
              11 September 2020 22: 58
              b ... th, I need to catch such shots ...
            2. 0
              12 September 2020 00: 55
              Quote: Klaus
              What should I do now? Stop watching anime?

              The taste and color, as they say ...
    2. +1
      11 September 2020 10: 47
      comments on Yahoo News are just connected to the internet by a madhouse. I don't understand why VO is doing this at all.

      For cross-type set of plus signs by commentators for everyone :-)
  9. +3
    11 September 2020 09: 01
    Their belligerence immediately disappears as soon as Japan is shaken by an earthquake, something that has not happened for a long time, or it can shake so much that they will forget what these islands are called and where they are. drinks
  10. +3
    11 September 2020 09: 02
    Harakiri and shipuku are traditional "entertainment" of the Japanese.
  11. 0
    11 September 2020 09: 03
    In theory, they will be able to take them from them, they will only have to say goodbye to the military infrastructure.
  12. 0
    11 September 2020 09: 06
    They were given preferences in the disputed territories ... visa-free and something for business .. What else do you need for the first time? A lot of cheap money, nowhere to go. There are competencies in all technologies. Invest and master the Kuril Islands.
  13. +6
    11 September 2020 09: 07
    There is nothing but war to return the "northern territories" to us. Russia captured them by military force, and they also need to be taken away by military force. True, Japan is not ready yet. Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases .... Selectively, if not in the capital, it is possible and possible according to the bases, it is interesting to argue, but in response? didn’t think? or nothing to think about? fool fool fool
    1. +11
      11 September 2020 09: 13
      Quote: viktor.
      Selectively, if not in the capital, it is possible and possible on the bases, it is interesting to argue, but in response? didn’t think? or nothing to think about?

      And this is a Japanese of Ukrainian origin who thinks: "What about us?"
  14. +3
    11 September 2020 09: 11
    If they don't want to return the islands - don't! No negotiations with the Russians! Let's wait until Russia itself bends!

    Is this a wish or difficulty in translating from Japanese? belay
    Will not bend! Don't get your hopes up!
    And you should not lean on sake, otherwise you will wake up in the morning, and your head is in the nightstand ...
  15. +3
    11 September 2020 09: 23
    I'm afraid that next time the Japanese with Hiroshima and Nagasaki will not get off, everything will be much sadder, too many neighbors have a grudge against the Japanese, and there are much more historical claims to Japan than Russia
  16. +4
    11 September 2020 09: 24
    And if all four islands are returned, then they can be forgiven

    And what do we need their forgiveness? I doubt it.
    If they don't want to return the islands - don't! No negotiations with the Russians! Let's wait until Russia itself is bent!

    As my boss says - you won't wait !!!
    There is nothing but war to return the "northern territories" to us. Russia captured them by military force, and they also need to be taken away by military force. True, Japan is not ready yet. Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

    This is the only smart comment. However, after the impact, the other four Japanese islands will become Fukushima. But it's not scary. They are no strangers ..
  17. BAI
    +5
    11 September 2020 09: 27
    We will never return the "northern territories"

    Well, finally, a sane idea.
  18. +5
    11 September 2020 09: 27
    Japan is a small country with a rural mentality. So that there was no Yap with war crimes in WWII, they never admit to themselves their inhumanity towards other peoples, that retribution to them has a material embodiment.
  19. +3
    11 September 2020 09: 32
    There is nothing but war to return the "northern territories" to us. Russia captured them by military force, and they also need to be taken away by military force. True, Japan is not ready yet. Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

    After that - Japan will cease to exist - too loud thoughts out loud by Japanese commentators!
  20. +3
    11 September 2020 09: 36
    Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

    Of course, there are enough frostbites everywhere .. The Japanese need to restrain their emotions and change their mentality, otherwise they risk disappearing into oblivion altogether ..
    If they don't want to return the islands - don't! No negotiations with the Russians! Let's wait until Russia itself is bent!

    But this comment is the most unpleasant .. because it is quite realizable .. if we proceed from the fact that we have a lot of seams with the economy and demography ......... It is urgent to return statesmen to power who will not think about their narrow mercantile interests, but about the fate of the country and its citizens ..
    1. +3
      11 September 2020 09: 41
      Quote: Svarog
      if we proceed from the fact that with the economy and demography
      That Japan will be bent much earlier than us, so you can not worry.
  21. +3
    11 September 2020 09: 36
    There is nothing but war to return the "northern territories" to us. Russia captured them by military force,

    They talk cool, especially about the occupation !!! Reminding history is so useless.
    It means only POWER! OUR strength ... at this all reasoning is time to stop.
  22. +5
    11 September 2020 09: 46
    What are these Russian press secretaries talking about? Cover a long history of plunder and occupation ?!

    Japanese occupation of China in schools no longer passes?
  23. +2
    11 September 2020 09: 46
    What are these Russian press secretaries talking about? Cover a long history of plunder and occupation ?! And they only need to tell us the following: "Sorry. Once upon a time they stole your territories by cunning. Here we return you with interest. We will never do this again." And if all four islands are returned, then they can be forgiven
    belay
    Unlimited arrogance, or do they not write about Russian-Japanese in their textbooks? How the war began - with a dastardly blow, without a declaration of war, against the ships of our squadron in the roadstead of Port Arthur! This is trick in the course of the war, without declaration - meanness. I have not heard an apology ...
    1. +1
      11 September 2020 10: 40
      You should learn some history. The reasons for the RYAV are written there. And yes, Tsushima victory is their national holiday
      1. 0
        12 September 2020 07: 52
        I know history, do not hesitate. The reasons for the war are the most standard for all countries at that time, everyone is to blame, everyone has imperial interests.
        Why didn't you like it? If what am I about that civilized countries at that time they called ambassadors, issued ultimatums and then started the war! Japan tried to show that it also became advanced and civilized, they did not wear embroidered shirts and kimonos for diplomatic meetings, but mowed down like noble Englishmen. Nature crawled out, what an honor, some kind of bushido, at night without a declaration of war, a torpedo attack on the ships of the squadron in the roadstead. I have not heard an apology negative
  24. +4
    11 September 2020 09: 46
    Unfortunately, the propaganda and fooling of the local population leads to such words. Japan was defeated and suffered territorial claims. War erases all boundaries. The Japanese have to blame their government and themselves. And also the mattress covers under which they lie.
    1. +1
      11 September 2020 11: 03
      "The Japanese need to blame their government and themselves. As well as the mattresses under which they lie" ...... BUT first - the Minister of War of Japan Komuru, who in 1905 in Portsmouth sarcastically established a new article in international law in response to Witte's question that Sakhalin was obtained from Japan in exchange for all the Kurils: “The war cancels out all the treaties. You were defeated, and let's proceed from the current situation. " Russia has learned this rule, and the Japs are now walking around and spitting on Komura's grave ...
  25. 0
    11 September 2020 09: 51
    Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases
    Good idea! We don't have peace. So it is necessary, it has long been necessary to strike with nuclear missiles. As Fukushima has shown, there is nothing so terrible in the radiation washed into the ocean. Everything is on the coast of the United States, and since they do not speak a word against it, then the Americans are only benefiting from radiation. Supermen are about to give birth ...
    If you sanitize a couple of islands with nuclear fire, then the remnants of the Yamato Empire will immediately conclude any agreements with us, and will love us like molded friends, as proved by the Americans and that War. In general, you need to shoot, persuaded!

    Sarcasm, if cho, but the question remains. The Japanese are right - it can ONLY be solved by war. Can still solve?
  26. +6
    11 September 2020 10: 10
    matches are not toys for children .... go blow themselves up
  27. 0
    11 September 2020 10: 11
    Do they generally have history lessons in schools ?, the impression is that they are not, or completely rewritten. Warmed a snake on your chest and not a snake, but they dance to its tune.
    1. +2
      11 September 2020 11: 20
      Yes. Only their understanding of history is very specific. By the way, little has changed since 1920. Only then they called the northern territories not only the islands, but also Mongolia and the entire Soviet Far East up to Baikal. They have remained in geography lessons from those times the question "show me the northern territories and territories that are under the influence of Japan." The only difference is that they stopped calling themselves an empire.
      1. 0
        11 September 2020 15: 52
        Surely the whole world is degrading, including us. It is similar about the legends of disappeared civilizations, not legends, but about archaeological finds (docks). But this all leads to the collapse of ours. Yuri, you have to think about something, I'll just make a reservation on which wall I am and why. Honestly - the Russian leadership got used to it and got drunk. Maybe it's enough to cover up those of our politicians who are tied to the West, of course, everyone is tied up and I don't want to, but people will forgive you. I am writing for the hundredth time to V.V. For Putin, appoint a deputy for internal affairs. And at the expense of the external, let's fuck those, one state, who threaten us with words, to proactively for motivation. You just have to shut your mouth rudely and legally.
      2. 0
        11 September 2020 15: 58
        For knowledge of history, with a plus.
  28. -2
    11 September 2020 10: 20
    Lord, one imbecile yelped, everyone was delighted and picked up. It is especially funny if it was a student of 12 years old. Commentators point to "The mood prevailing in Japanese society." Well, damn it, human nature is so arranged that the weak hates the strong. And the less chance he has of harming the strong, the clearer the hatred becomes.
    1. +3
      11 September 2020 11: 57
      Unfortunately, comrade, juvenile imbeciles grow up and become adult imbeciles, and as often happens, they are the ones who seize power.
      PS: "Sleep of reason breeds monsters"
  29. 0
    11 September 2020 10: 28
    How many islands are Japan, each island has a thermonuclear ammunition and there is no Japan, a large Pacific crater. By the way, the British can get the Atlantic funnel. It is necessary to work with the head, and not with one object.
    1. 0
      11 September 2020 16: 11
      Who cares how many islands, there were bases, and the secrecy has not yet been disclosed, they were against the entire region - that's enough with these - only Nagasaki and Hiroshima will not be - there will be an ocean first, in their place, and then re-growing islands, from eruptions. I’m really mad at how this American infection has gone through - eating everyone.
  30. -1
    11 September 2020 10: 32
    The northern territories "we can not return anything but war. Russia captured them by military force, and they also need to be taken by military force. True, Japan is not ready yet. Russia can be defeated if we strike with nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital , then at least on military bases

    In my opinion, this track is perfect for this quote.
  31. +1
    11 September 2020 10: 59
    “The war negates all agreements. You were defeated, and let's proceed from the current situation. " What do you think - whose words are these? These are the words of the Japanese Defense Minister Komura in response to Witte's reminder that Japan renounced its rights to Sakhalin, having received all the Kuril Islands for this under the 1875 treaty. So the Japs themselves wrote an article according to which we now rightfully own both Sakhalin and the Kuriles. They were defeated in the war they started, and their allies decided as they wanted. Point.
  32. -1
    11 September 2020 11: 00
    Russia is to blame for everything. She does not have the slightest desire to return the islands obtained as a result of the war. We will never return the "northern territories"
    you might think if Japan won, she would return Sakhalin
  33. 0
    11 September 2020 11: 02
    Russia is to blame for everything. She does not have the slightest desire to return the islands obtained as a result of the war.

    And who has a desire to return, or rather to give away, for which the blood of his soldiers was shed? belay
    We will never return the "northern territories"

    Well, finally, it was tumbling !!! fellow
    As Estonians, the right word !!! lol
    Until Russia returns the islands to us, no peace treaty with her

    Well, yes, and scales with this contract. We have lived 75 years and we will easily last as much. fellow Yes
    What are these Russian press secretaries talking about? Cover a long history of plunder and occupation ?! And they only need to tell us the following: "Sorry. Once upon a time they stole your territory by cunning. Here we return it to you with interest."

    Not by cunning, but by military force and the blood of its citizens !!! fool
    And the "percent" will not crack the mug? angry
    Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

    And what will be left of you if Russia responds? We have a different arsenal of richer ones, and you will not be allowed to crawl on all fours after him to bow to the hegemon on all fours. Yes, and it is fraught, the answer will fly to the hegemon, but he needs it? lol
  34. -2
    11 September 2020 11: 03
    There is nothing but war to return the "northern territories" to us. Russia captured them by military force, and they also need to be taken away by military force. True, Japan is not ready yet. Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases
    I wonder if it arrives in response? !!!
    they are going to live somewhere after that
  35. 0
    11 September 2020 11: 05
    Nuclear missiles? That is, the yupps have their own nuclear arsenal? Hmm. I always thought that about 40 percent of Japanese are not friendly with their heads. This grief commentator thought what would happen in response? Let's drop three or four clubs on the head (30-40 blocks 100-150ct each) or send a couple of governors to restore order (20 blocks of 1mgt each) and that's it. For a single Japan, a very specific end of the world will come.
  36. +1
    11 September 2020 11: 08
    There is little to do - create your own nuclear weapons and try to strike them (although China and Korea would have hit them earlier) or persuade someone else from nuclear countries to become a kamikaze for the Japanese wishlist. I don't see candidates yet ....
  37. +3
    11 September 2020 11: 09
    Until Russia returns the islands to us, no peace treaty with her

    The dudes have forgotten, they have already signed the act of Japan's unconditional surrender to the Allies and the USSR
    Russia can be defeated by hitting nuclear missiles, well, if not at its capital, then at least at military bases

    Do you have a pistol, that is, Semyonov? (P.) wassat
    "Sorry. Once upon a time they stole your territories by cunning. Here we return you with interest. We will never do this again." And if all four islands are returned, then they can be forgiven
    \
    The dude makes a critical mistake, not by cunning but by right of force. And it's not the Japanese to talk about economic aid.
  38. 0
    11 September 2020 11: 30
    ***

    -Japan, with the support of the Soviet Union, became a member of the UN, signed and ratified the Charter of the organization, which contains Article 107, which states that all the results of World War II are inviolable.

    -The war between the USSR and Japan was completed on September 2, 1945 by the signing by the Japanese of an act of unconditional surrender.

    -The state of war was officially terminated on October 19, 1956, when a joint Declaration was signed: "The state of war between the USSR and Japan ceases from the date of entry into force of this Declaration, and peace and good-neighborly friendly relations are restored between them."

    -The Kuril Islands came under the control of the USSR as a result of World War II, which was stipulated in the Cairo Declaration of 1943, the Potsdam Declaration of 1945, as well as in the 1951 peace treaty signed in San Francisco.

    -Japan unconditionally recognized the Potsdam and Cairo Declarations and signed the act of surrender in 1945. And in 1951, the Japanese abandoned their claims to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.

    ---

    Salmon tail splashed on the wave

    The islands disappeared in the fog

    They will not return

    Deal with Nihon ...

    © V.V. Vorontsov Islands of the Rising Sun of Russia

    ***
  39. 0
    11 September 2020 13: 14
    I do not really understand what kind of nuclear missiles the last commentator is writing about, but it seems to me that he is eight years old and he draws information about the armament of the Japanese self-defense forces from some manga.

    In general, you can understand the Japanese, they are taught from childhood that 4 islands are "Northern Territories" and the USSR illegally took them away. However, they ignore historical facts. However, to find out these facts, one must read not only the Japanese press, but also other sources.

    The Japanese government is generally doing everything right. Agreeing with Russia is pretty stupid. This is electoral suicide for any politician. Therefore, I suppose that a normal (from the Japanese point of view) Japanese politician will push the idea of ​​returning the islands to Japan in his election plans.
    Just like any normal Russian politician will also insist on the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over the islands.
    And there will always be degenerates on both sides who will shout "Let's fire nuclear missiles at Russia" or "Let's make Meiji Temple into a smoking radioactive funnel."
    In general, time is working for Russia, in 300 years all this will grow with moss.
    But there is another huge problem here - the demography of the Far East and the Kuril Islands. Now, if you solve it (I don't know how), then everything will be exactly normal.
  40. 0
    11 September 2020 13: 28
    Quote: NEXUS
    And here I have one question - what will remain of Japan after the dust settles.

    The Japanese islands are like wine glasses on a thin stem.
  41. 0
    11 September 2020 13: 51
    laughing I have always thought that the Japanese have obsessive suicidal tendencies.
  42. 0
    11 September 2020 13: 54
    Quote: Denis812
    I do not really understand what kind of nuclear missiles the last commentator is writing about, but it seems to me that he is eight years old and he draws information about the armament of the Japanese self-defense forces from some manga.

    In general, you can understand the Japanese, they are taught from childhood that 4 islands are "Northern Territories" and the USSR illegally took them away. However, they ignore historical facts. However, to find out these facts, one must read not only the Japanese press, but also other sources.

    The Japanese government is generally doing everything right. Agreeing with Russia is pretty stupid. This is electoral suicide for any politician. Therefore, I suppose that a normal (from the Japanese point of view) Japanese politician will push the idea of ​​returning the islands to Japan in his election plans.
    Just like any normal Russian politician will also insist on the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over the islands.
    And there will always be degenerates on both sides who will shout "Let's fire nuclear missiles at Russia" or "Let's make Meiji Temple into a smoking radioactive funnel."
    In general, time is working for Russia, in 300 years all this will grow with moss.
    But there is another huge problem here - the demography of the Far East and the Kuril Islands. Now, if you solve it (I don't know how), then everything will be exactly normal.
    Here, in order to avoid unnecessary excesses, join the Russian Federation as the Japanese Federal District laughing laughing
  43. +1
    11 September 2020 14: 22
    Quote: unhappy
    What are these Russian press secretaries talking about? Cover a long history of plunder and occupation ?! And they only need to tell us the following: "Sorry. Once upon a time they stole your territories by cunning. Here we return you with interest. We will never do this again." And if all four islands are returned, then they can be forgiven
    belay
    Unlimited arrogance, or do they not write about Russian-Japanese in their textbooks? How the war began - with a dastardly blow, without a declaration of war, against the ships of our squadron in the roadstead of Port Arthur! This is trick in the course of the war, without declaration - meanness. I have not heard an apology ...

    It was not the American press at the time that called this military attack. “On the eve of the Russian-Japanese war, there was still no periodical press, friendly to Russia (not counting seven small-circulation Russian-language newspapers in the CER zone) in the Far East. Everything that was available turned out to be permeated with Russophobia, “warmed up” by the pro-Japanese press of Great Britain and the United States and then “re-exported”, in the words of Naoko Shimazu (professor at the University of London - AP), to the same Western press, equally official and non-governmental. The American people believed that Japan was waging a war out of self-defense, and its brave opposition to powerful Russia aroused immense admiration, say observers of the American press during the war years. “... American financial and university circles were equally convinced that Japan's military successes meant the progress of civilization ... The American press hailed Japan as the ideal of a young nation fighting for an altruistic cause.” Moreover, following their Japanese counterparts, leading American and British legal scholars argued that By attacking Russia without declaring war, Japan acted in a logical manner. Professor of the Yale Law School Theodore Woosley, for example, said in this regard that "in modern conditions it is not necessary to declare war", and therefore "there was nothing treacherous or wrong in the attack by Japanese destroyers on Russian ships in Port Arthur." (On December 7, 1941, the statements of this American jurist will come back to haunt his compatriots in Pearl Harbor - A.P.). laughing
  44. 0
    11 September 2020 14: 32
    Phantom pains for long-lost, hysteria can be as long as you like, but no matter how much you say halva in your mouth will not become sweeter. A few more generations will go into another world and no one will even remember the past ... but they cannot afford to "lose face" and even though the Americans still have them all, they will not forgive Russia.
  45. +7
    11 September 2020 14: 42
    "Sorry. Once upon a time they stole your territories by cunning. Here we return you with interest. We will never do this again." And if all four islands are returned, then they can be forgiven

    FAQ, FAQ?
    And Hokaido is not superfluous for you?
  46. 0
    11 September 2020 15: 00
    Will our Foreign Ministry make an inquiry to various international organizations and the UN about the "nuclear missiles" that the Japanese are hiding somewhere? Then it will be possible to easily explain the different "tsunamis" and the accident at Fukushima, linking it to the tests of nuclear weapons by the Japanese government, which, as far as I know, the Japanese are prohibited from doing under the 1945 treaties. Or did they ... "put" on all treaties, from the act of surrender they signed to the treaty on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons?
  47. 0
    11 September 2020 15: 19
    Quote: 1536
    Will our Foreign Ministry make an inquiry to various international organizations and the UN about the "nuclear missiles" that the Japanese are hiding somewhere? Then it will be possible to easily explain the different "tsunamis" and the accident at Fukushima, linking it to the tests of nuclear weapons by the Japanese government, which, as far as I know, the Japanese are prohibited from doing under the 1945 treaties. Or did they ... "put" on all treaties, from the act of surrender they signed to the treaty on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons?

    And impose sanctions with a naval blockade, and all their economic "miracle" will dissipate like smoke over the hill laughing
  48. +1
    11 September 2020 15: 24
    Hit us with nuclear weapons? Well, well ... Our retaliation will definitely be more sensitive.
    It is enough to look at the map of the Japanese nuclear power plant.
  49. +1
    11 September 2020 15: 44
    Do they though combine Fujiyama with Fukushima? Why would they?
    After all, it is more convenient to make a sepukka with such a special knife, why do you need to make some rockets for this?
    Will America help? Than? That half of the tsunami will swallow up its coast? And Japam is easier from that?
  50. +1
    11 September 2020 16: 01
    Someone had obviously gone over the sake. It would not hurt to remember that in response to the Japanese, something will also arrive and also with nuclear warheads. With the huge population density of Japan, this will lead to very large losses among the population.
  51. +4
    11 September 2020 16: 50
    Why discuss this at all..Aren’t you tired?
    It’s time to hang banners on the islands, thinking the Japanese will immediately understand and stop whining!
  52. 0
    11 September 2020 17: 43
    Japan capitulated, which is recorded in the documents of all the warring parties.
    That’s why it’s her ears that come from a dead donkey, not the Kuril Islands.
  53. 0
    11 September 2020 21: 04
    If there are aggressive comments, and if there are a lot of them, then society is gradually militarizing. And this is a signal.
  54. 0
    11 September 2020 22: 38
    For a long time the Japanese could not understand what kind of fungus was growing in the distance.....
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  57. 0
    11 September 2020 23: 50
    translator to the wall - provocateur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    +1
    12 September 2020 07: 04
    "We need to hit with nuclear missiles": Japan offers options for the return of the Kuriles

    “He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones at others” Words of the English writer, master of the adventure novel Robert Louis Stevenson
  60. +1
    12 September 2020 13: 53
    I see that part of society in Japan has not learned the lessons of history, so they can lose more islands, and then whine about the insidious Russians.
  61. +1
    12 September 2020 15: 51
    With this attitude towards the Russian Federation from Japan, Russia needs to completely stop all negotiations with Tokyo about the Kuril Islands and begin to curtail economic cooperation. There is nothing good to expect from such a country, the Russian Federation.
  62. 0
    12 September 2020 18: 45
    Apparently a new generation of cannon fodder has been born in the land of the rising sun. New, knowing nothing, devoid of national memory. In memory of the millions of ancestors who saw the only Soviet blitzkrieg in the world, never repeated by anyone. Lightning war against the Japanese army. Forgot. But no one will fight so humanely in this century.