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Is there a “2024 problem”?

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I am often asked questions, the answers to which can be found out after a fairly long (for a person, naturally) period. On the one hand, such questions are easy to answer, and on the other, if we are to speak seriously, they should be based on some facts, on some conclusions, not just indisputable, but fundamentally correct. One of these questions is the “problem of 2024” for Russia.


Indeed, for us, 2024 is not just the end of the last presidential term of Vladimir Putin, no matter what our oppositionists may say about this, it is the end of many megaprojects already announced and operating in the Russian Federation. The time when, according to the plans of the incumbent president, Russia must change in many respects. If you like, become a comfortable country for living.

President of 2024 of the year


Putin will run for the next term, taking advantage of the amendment to the constitution that we recently adopted. What is there for the next term, for two terms! ..

It is with this statement that our liberals most often frighten the layman. The image of the "eternal" Putin has been promoted to such an extent that not only our "fighters against the regime" are now in a stupor, but also Western ones.

The authority and respect for Putin the politician is so great that there is practically no leader in world politics who can oppose him on equal terms. And the attitude of the people of Russia to their leader can be seen at any elections, at any polls. Even when unpopular decisions are made, the rating of the Russian president is quite high.

But let's think: is it real? It seems to me that the only option for Putin to participate in the next elections is the collapse of the system of public administration that he has been building over the past decade. If by 2024 there is no leader in the country who can replace the incumbent president ... But in this case, it is inappropriate to go for the next term. Putin will not be able to offer anything new.

Speaking about the next presidential term, our oppositionists for some reason carefully observe the law on non-disclosure of personal data. And this, given the age of the supporters of liberalism in Russia, is quite important. Let me remind you that on October 7 this year, Vladimir Vladimirovich will be 68 years old! Accordingly, in 2024 he will be 72!

Those of the readers who have already moved into the category of retirees understood me perfectly. After you pass from the "age of life" to the "age of survival", the strength really begins to leave you. And even with the use of medication methods of recuperation, the understanding comes that you will no longer win the "derby of three years".

"All the king's men ..."


It will be no less difficult in the highest echelon of power, among those who directly manage the most important structures of government. Little is said about this either. We are used to the fact that the appearance of the head of our Foreign Ministry at any summit is always an event. The authority of Sergei Viktorovich Lavrov in the world is probably no less than the authority of Putin. The very participation of the Russian minister in any meeting or negotiations guarantees the interest in the event all over the world.

Meanwhile, on March 21 this year, Sergey Viktorovich celebrated his 70th birthday! To be honest, I am amazed by the fact that a person at this age retains such a capacity for work. The crossings alone are worth something. And the job is no easier than that of the president. In 2024, Lavrov will be 74 years old!

Another key minister is Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu. Agree, the authority of this person in the world also deserves great respect. The successes of the Russian army are largely associated with this minister. It was under him that the army regained its status of the defender of the people and the respect of the people. By the way, this year he also celebrated an anniversary. He turned 21 on May 65! By the next elections Shoigu will be 69!

Another power minister, relatively young and promising Vladimir Aleksandrovich Kolokoltsev. It is foolish to dispute the importance of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for maintaining stability within the state. The Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is young compared to others, but he is still 59 years old ... And he will be 63 in 2024.

Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, head of the Russian Guard Viktor Vasilyevich Zolotov. Today Rosgvardia is far from the internal troops of the USSR. These are real combat units that have combat experience and are practically constantly conducting combat operations to eliminate bandit formations on Russian territory. General Zolotov celebrated his 66th birthday this year. Accordingly, in the 24th year will celebrate the 70th anniversary ...

And I will remember one more security officer. The head of the FSB Alexander Vasilyevich Bortnikov. Agree, an influential and significant figure for Russia. The specific nature of the service obscures the activities of this minister, but does not diminish his importance in any way. On November 15, relatives, friends and colleagues will congratulate Alexander Bortnikov on his 69th birthday.

I don't think it's worth continuing to list the veteran ministers. During his tenure, Putin has built a team that has worked well. Each area is managed by a truly professional. But let me remind you what I wrote above. Age spares no one. The performance is reduced. The time has come to hand over the reins of government to a younger, stronger one.

In principle, we have already seen how the system of training senior executives created by Putin operates. Imperceptibly for the country as a whole, most of the regional leaders were replaced by young ones. This did not cause any shocks. And the last example of Khabarovsk showed that even in extreme conditions, young leaders are quite capable of maintaining the manageability and stability of the region.

I think that the coming years will be the time for young people to take the first roles. If this process is extended over time, such a change will not cause any systemic changes in the country's governance at all. This will be the real continuity of power. Guarantee of the country's stability after 2024.

The system should work when replacing elements


It's fashionable to talk about 2024 today. It's fashionable to argue. And most importantly, it's safe for your own image. Remember Khoja Nasreddin and his treaty with the emir? “After all, in twenty years one of the three of us will surely die: either the emir, or the donkey, or me. And then go and figure out who knew theology better! "

For me personally, the question of whether 2024 will be some kind of shock for Russia is not worth it. Yes, we will get a new head of the country. Who will it be? Alas, Russia could more or less accurately answer this question only under the autocracy. In democratic Russia, leaders appear and disappear at a breakneck pace.

It is quite possible that the future "Putin-2" is already known to us. Perhaps he is still in charge of some region or ministry. It does not matter. The main thing, after all, is the country's stability and movement forward. Honestly, "toad jumps", when we jerk, with full exertion of strength, jump to another bump, in front of everyone else, and sit there, looking at the foreigners floating ahead without haste, are tired.

We deserve stability.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 13 September 2020 04: 58 New
    -11
    For some reason it so happened historically that only with a strong centralized and authoritarian government Russia thrives, but as soon as the democrats get to the helm with their brain liberalism, a complete collapse occurs! The birth of the Russian state and its formation - Ivan III and Ivan IV. The heyday of the Empire - Peter I. Formation of the USSR, victory over fascism, etc. - Stalin ... Climbing out of the "dashing 90s", another pacification of the Caucasus, strengthening the economy, the return of Crimea ... - GDP! And vice versa .... - the liberal attempts of Alexander II, everyone remembers how it ended - the construction of the Cathedral of the Savior on Spilled Blood, the rag tsar completely profited the Empire, the Provisional Government profited what the rag tsar did not manage to profuse, the Civil War and the split of the country, Khrushchev with his thaw and idiotic economic policy, he ruined agriculture and in general ... Gorbachev is the collapse of the Soviet Empire, Yeltsin is a drunk and a vivid spokesman for the interests of the American people, hellish chaos has been going on in the country for almost 10 years of his rule ... Yes! The problem of 2024, even if viewed only through a historical lens, really exists!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 13 September 2020 05: 16 New
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      Quote: Finches
      Yes! The problem of 2024, even if viewed only through a historical lens, really exists!

      Is there a “2024 problem”?


      If there was no problem in 2008, if the problem of 2012 was transformed into the number and duration of terms, then the problem of 2024 was solved by the amendments to the Constitution adopted in the spring of 2020 by the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
      This is a priori non-existent problem. Here is one incomprehensible task, a single illegible squiggle, an indefinite topic, an unframed bottleneck, an incomplete squiggle - the FINAL GOAL of the path along which Putin, Rasputin, Zaputin, or some other trusted trusted person from the secret will lead us " snuff boxes ".
      Will the people be able to just take and believe the fables and sayings told by proxies in pre-election battles? Will he be capable of the next "twenty-six years" self-denial and self-sacrifice? Will he find the strength to work "for the benefit of the oligarchy" until 72 years old and smile at the services of housing and communal services and prices for food, content with handouts from the master's table? Will he be able to withstand four years in masks, in seven-day voting on stumps, in boundless accusations of imperfect misconduct?
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 13 September 2020 18: 26 New
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        During his tenure, Putin has built a team that has worked well. Each area is managed by a truly professional.
        This is especially noticeable, of course, with the example of Roskosmos.
        1. Revival
          Revival 13 September 2020 18: 43 New
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          The Foreign Ministry is making good progress, the president himself is already publicly apologizing ...
          We have prepared a shift, you can pass it to Masha ...
          1. Saxahorse
            Saxahorse 13 September 2020 21: 14 New
            -5
            By the way, he apologizes in vain. The Serb himself substituted himself in full, here just the apology looks inappropriate.
            1. Igor Semenov
              Igor Semenov 14 September 2020 09: 57 New
              +3
              In everyday life, we often prefer not to notice the mistakes of our relatives, especially when their mistakes do not directly concern us. And the Serb is not even a relative - he is the ONLY ally in Europe.
        2. Reklastik
          Reklastik 13 September 2020 22: 18 New
          +6
          well, so the author does not write in what areas they are professionals ...
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 13 September 2020 06: 41 New
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      Quote: Finches
      Historicallythat only with a strong centralized and authoritarian government Russia is flourishing

      Well, here Putin comes out as an exception to this rule or nullifies it. Because at the moment one can only dream about the prosperity of Russia. Even prospects are not visible! People from year to year, only tighten their belts tighter.

      About the history. So Historicallythat after the dictators, power is transferred not in a normal way, but in a bloody, violent way. Therefore, how will Putin's rule end, it should be spoken about with caution.

      This is a worldwide practice. As for the historical tradition of Russia, power was usually transferred by force. Even if you don't remember the murders of the tsars, then from 1917 (when Nikolashka was thrown off):
      - Lenin. They shot, was ill, mentally, could not transfer power to a successor (according to legend).
      - Stalin. A strange death. When Khrushchev came, he shot another contender for the post, Beria, and slandered and debunked Stalin.
      - Khrushchev. Arrested and removed.
      - Gorbachev. Arrested and abolished.
      - Yeltsin. He himself voluntarily transferred power into the hands of his successor to continue the course. This is the most successful transfer of power. The truth is not for the people, but for the oligarchs, who have multiplied greatly thanks to Putin.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 13 September 2020 07: 11 New
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        But you shouldn't think that Yeltsin is white and fluffy, because he voluntarily transferred power to his successor. He himself made a coup and destroyed the USSR, for the sake of personal power. And in 93 he shot from tanks the elected parliament. And he showed everyone that he would flood Moscow with blood, but that he would not surrender power to "strangers" (parliament). But only to his trusted person, the continuation of the course.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 13 September 2020 08: 29 New
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          And in 93 he shot from tanks the elected parliament.
          I will add. The State Emergency Committee, which it is customary to throw mud at, could not shoot at its people, and for Yeltsin, the people of Russia were not their own.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 13 September 2020 18: 00 New
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            hi Duc and today the "underduelist guard" is stuffed with weapons, including heavy ones, worse than the Armed Forces, obviously not for playing paintball or lightning. request
          2. Igor Semenov
            Igor Semenov 14 September 2020 10: 00 New
            +1
            Alpha officers asked for a written order to storm the White House. Nobody dared to give them such an order. This is an established fact.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 13 September 2020 12: 18 New
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          ... And in 93 he shot from the tanks the elected parliament by the people, from which, in case of victory, there would be no sense for the country, since there was no money for anything, the Western loans on which Russia lived in those years, with the victory of the GKChP, would have been immediately turned off. Gorbachev and Yeltsin are a consequence of many problems that have lasted for many years and not the reason for the collapse of the USSR, he would have happened without their participation, just others would have done it.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 September 2020 09: 32 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        This is the most successful transfer of power. The truth is not for the people, but for the oligarchs, who have multiplied greatly thanks to Putin.

        Lucky for the oligarchs? lol
        Do we live in the same country? laughing
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich 13 September 2020 11: 43 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        historically after dictators power is not transferred in a normal way, but in a bloody way.

        And what "dictator" was before the bloodiest civil war in history? belay

        Really ....?
        Quote: Stas157
        historically, after dictators, power is transmitted not normal, but bloody, violent by means of

        "Be transmitted"It can only peacefully. Power can only by force"take".
        Transmission and violence are incompatible.
        Quote: Stas157
        Lenin. They shot, was ill, mentally, could not transfer power to a successor (according to legend).
        - Stalin. A strange death. When Khrushchev came, he shot another contender for the post, Beria, and slandered and debunked Stalin.
        - Khrushchev. Arrested and removed.
        - Gorbachev. Arrested and abolished.

        belay
        In the USSR -.... "violence" during the change of power, and even all 70 years ?! Signed confession from a witness withyes

        But by the way, all the rearrangements were done in full compliance with the Legislation of the USSR: withdrawn, nominated, appointed, elected, yes ...
      4. Sfurei
        Sfurei 14 September 2020 18: 56 New
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        It is very sonorously and loudly said: ".. The people from year to year, only tighten their belts ..." Tell us how you or your relatives have become worse off since 2000 ?? Tightening your belts since the age of 20, you should have already either died with dignity or wither with your family and be unable to knock on the keyboard such loud and pretentious statements !!
        And you or your parents have bought an apartment or a summer cottage in 20 years, and probably have changed more than one car. And the children probably went to the kindergarten and to school for more than 10 years for free ?? Maybe they even entered the institute? And children probably in the clinic were treated and treated for free? Here is a bastard GDP ?? And do you walk along the roads and sidewalks / come to school with children and to work, or make your way among the weeds, where the best roads of the USSR used to be? And probably nowhere you have not worked for so many years, only on your site did you grow carrots and only eat them ??
        Stop suffering and ".. tighten your belts .." You either studied and learned how to make good money or not. But Putin is not to blame for this ..
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 15 September 2020 06: 26 New
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          Quote: Sfurei
          Tell us how you or your relatives have become worse off since 2000?

          In 2000, golden, oil-bearing rain began. Here Putin was damn lucky, but he never took advantage of the favorable moment and did not modernize the economy. And therefore, with the end of the rain (oil prices are 120 USD per barrel), a crisis began in Russia.

          Since 2014, the people began to live worse for sure. But to be absolutely precise, the fall began with the 2008 crisis. As for me (personally), if I had a business under EBN, then under Putin I lost it. With all that it implies.

          Quote: Sfurei
          And the children probably went to the kindergarten and to school for more than 10 years for free ?? Maybe they even entered the institute? And children probably in the clinic were treated and treated for free? Here is a bastard GDP ??

          Upon entering the kindergarten, he paid a bribe (4 thousand). Otherwise they would not have taken it. At the school, at the very first meeting, the teacher handed out payment orders of 5 thousand (for "charity"). In general, everything is sad with higher education. The number of budget places is only decreasing from year to year. Therefore, you will probably have to study for a fee ... In the USSR, there was definitely no such crap.
          We go to the clinic mainly for a fee, and the children, and my wife and I. Believe me, not from a good life. If I could get all this in a free clinic, then I definitely would not go to a paid one.

          Quote: Sfurei
          And do you walk along the roads and sidewalks / come to school with children and to work, or make your way among the weeds, where the best roads of the USSR used to be?

          I did not understand this at all. Should I be grateful to Putin for walking on the sidewalks?
          1. Sfurei
            Sfurei 15 September 2020 10: 52 New
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            I agree with the second comment on the economic component in part, but let's go in order:
            1. Golden rain of oil "..but he never used it ..". I disagree. The Russian Federation paid off the entire debt to the IMF (and it was oh, how many), created a financial safety cushion (allowing the Russian Federation to conduct its own policy). The rise of the economy begins, in 2005-2006. The boom in construction and home buying leads to a 3-fold increase in real estate prices, because people began to buy real estate en masse (not from a bad life, probably). The restoration of the military-industrial complex begins (the first development and construction of nuclear submarines, aircraft, missiles, etc.)
            2. That since 2008, the first global (by the way) crisis began and 2014, the second deeper global crisis, - it became more difficult to work and earn money. You can't argue here, but it was not only in Russia, but all over the world. And additionally, since 2008 (Georgia), systematic pressure begins with sanctions in all areas of the economy, then Ukraine, etc. I myself saw in my work how we were gradually pressured by restrictions on supplies and financing.
            3. I don’t know what happened to your business, but I now have my own business and it is gradually developing ..
            4. Kindergartens, schools, etc. To a greater extent, we ourselves are to blame for encouraging bribery. I have 3 children and the eldest 10 years ago, I got to the kindergarten after buying lamps for the assembly hall for 21 thousand rubles. But since the purchase was for the kindergarten, at that moment it suited me. There were no more extortions, neither when the elder went to school, nor when the little ones went to kindergartens. I will say more: the educators and managers themselves categorically forbid collecting money from parents. ALL children and we too (we do not have VHI) are served in the state. polyclinics and everything is free and everything suits us. And my sons underwent free surgeries and were in the hospital with my daughter, when it was necessary and everything was free and worthy ... Perhaps it was in the service region, but my father and father-in-law were operated on and treated in the state. hospital and no complaints ..))
            5. In my opinion, not everything is so bad in our country: the military, teachers and doctors are paid more, enterprises are working (most of them), roads are being repaired, houses are being built and bought, people are changing cars, etc. For children pay mat capital and social. subsidies. They return personal income tax for a mortgage, treatment, education ... A few days ago, an acquaintance of mine took a mortgage at 4,9% for the first years of payments (they made a discount on children). Etc. etc.
            But for some reason, many people have the opinion that when everything is fine, I am a good fellow, and when something is wrong, Putin is personally to blame .. It seems to me that you need to rely more on your own strength, and the state is not particularly hinders work and human development !!! Good luck and success !!!
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 15 September 2020 12: 58 New
              +5
              Quote: Sfurei
              Golden rain of oil "..but he never used it ..". I disagree.

              And here everything is simple. When the "golden" rain was falling. Russia's GDP grew. The rain stopped growing and immediately subsided.

              In terms of growth rates over the past 20 years, Russia has lagged far behind China, India, and the United States. And over the past 10 years, growth has been below the world average. Others are growing faster despite general crises.

              Quote: Sfurei
              I now have my own business and it is gradually developing ..

              May God grant your business health. After all, it is very difficult to do small business in Russia. The share of small and medium-sized businesses in the Russian economy is only 21,9%. This is very small. For comparison, in Europe this value is above 50%.

              Quote: Sfurei
              my father and father-in-law were operated on and treated in the state. hospital and no complaints ..

              As for the operations (they are expensive), of course, if the opportunity is all along the budget line. But the list of free operations and free services is shrinking every year.
              But as for analyzes and narrow specialists, it is much easier to use this in commercial clinics. Last thing. In August, I took blood tests twice in paid clinics (some of them simply cannot be taken for free!) I did fluorography and CT. The child was doing a paid drip. Believe me, I have no extra money to throw money. I was forced do it. I have a wife state doctorDespite this, she regularly uses the services of private clinics! I even did a paid operation (inexpensive).

              Quote: Sfurei
              A friend of mine took out a mortgage the other day under 4,9% for the first years of payments (they made a discount for children).

              Is this given to everyone or only to some? I'm now taking a mortgage (still considering) in Sberbank under 7,9% pa (plus on top of mandatory payments, insurances, estimates, etc. for 20 thousand). And this is almost twice the key rate! What about the apartment in a new building, though not from the developer himself, but from a private person who has already bought the contract before.

              Quote: Sfurei
              It seems to me that you need to rely more on your strengths, and the state does not particularly hinder work and human development !!! Good luck and success !!!

              You are absolutely right, in our state, unfortunately, there is no hope for the state if you are not an official or an oligarch. These live well, especially Putin's friends.))

              Every success to you too! hi
              1. Sfurei
                Sfurei 15 September 2020 17: 05 New
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                To you, too, success in all your endeavors !!
                Ps When Sberbank did not give me a mortgage, I took in the Delta !! More loyal and adequate guys))
          2. Mayan
            Mayan 17 September 2020 14: 59 New
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            this is initially imperceptible: change of payment details (small-small) and the sequence further (in fact, a set of variations: changing shoes in the air, technical trouble, etc., change of this, change of this, change of this to this, etc., etc., change of leadership, change of many other things) ...
        2. New
          New Year day 20 September 2020 10: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: Sfurei
          Tell us how you or your relatives have become worse off since 2000?

          Moscow. September 18. INTERFAX.RU - The population of the Russian Federation with incomes below the subsistence level in the second quarter of 2020 increased by 1,3 million people compared to both the second quarter of 2019 and the first quarter of 2020 and amounted to 19,9 million people, reported in Friday Rosstat.
          The poverty level in the Russian Federation in the second quarter of 2020 increased to 13,5% against 12,7% in the second quarter of 2019 and 12,6% in the first quarter of 2020.
          The poverty rate as a whole in the first half of 2020 was 13,2% versus 13,5% in the first half of 2019.
          Quote: Sfurei
          But Putin is not to blame for this ..

          laughing
          1. Sfurei
            Sfurei Yesterday, 00: 53 New
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            Очень граммотно и доходчиво мне всё объяснили: спасибо большое! Только вопрос был про 2000 год и потрудитесь ответить на него.
            А про 2 квартал 2020 года - даже как-то стыдно Вам объяснять как старшекласнику, начинающему изучать экономику и анатомию: конец 2019 года - начало 2020 начинается спад экономики (про падение цен на нефть слышали наверное!!??) . Так и нас это коснулось в России.
            Ну и плюсом конечно незначительная мировая проблема: КОРОНОВИРУС!!!!!!! Со всеми попутными: спад экономики, урезание серой зп (это же Путин людей заставлял за нёё наниматься), увольнение по собственному желанию, работающих в основном за серую зп и по серым схемам нерадивыми начальниками и собственниками (их тоже лично Путин заставил?) и т.д. и т.п.
            Ай-яй-яй, а кто это всё сделал???
    3. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 13 September 2020 08: 58 New
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      Quote: Finches
      For some reason, it so historically happened that only with a strong centralized and authoritarian government Russia flourishes, but as soon as the Democrats get to the helm with their brain liberalism, then a complete collapse occurs!

      Exactly. This is a historical fact that cannot be dismissed.
      The number of minuses in your karma only indicates that there is a significant proportion of Liberal Democrats among the readers, interspersed with narrow-minded fools.
      Russia is an a priori authoritarian (read monarchist) country and cannot develop in another format of governance. Any non-authoritarian government in Russia instantly becomes the power of temporary thieves. This is an axiom that narrow-minded fools are unable to understand and ardent liberal democrats categorically refuse to understand.

      In general, a plus for you. But at the expense of GDP, as the saying goes, not everything is so simple. Yes, he wants to appear as an emperor, but far from everything and not always he succeeds, but he simply does not want to do something, as a protege of the "family".
      1. Antonio_Mariarti
        Antonio_Mariarti 13 September 2020 13: 11 New
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        This is a 10-year failure for the Russian Federation, the main failure of Putin is the loss of Ukraine, but Crimea was annexed, but the rest of Ukraine was lost. Was Crimea worth it? Or could it have been different? I am already silent about economic exploits, for 10 years the Russian economy has grown by 3 percent ... that's pfyu. In this situation, he had to not think about going to 2018 at all. After all, not efficiency is shown.
        1. solzh
          solzh 13 September 2020 22: 09 New
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          Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
          lost the rest of Ukraine

          Is not a fact. The fact that pro-Western anti-Russian authorities are in power does not prove your claim.
          Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
          Was Crimea worth it?

          Crimea has always sought to become part of Russia.
          Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
          Or could it have been different?

          Can. In February-March 2014, send the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to Ukraine and crush the Nazi bastard.
          1. Antonio_Mariarti
            Antonio_Mariarti 14 September 2020 18: 30 New
            +3
            Since 2014, young people have been brought up in an anti-Russian mood, I am already silent about the infringement of the Russian language, remind me, is it possible now to study Russian in the primary school in Ukraine? Therefore, the longer it lasts, the worse it is for the Russian Federation, because another 15 years and the new generation will not consider it Russian brothers. Didn't Donbass strive? If it was possible, then why not? The RF Armed Forces were in Ukraine, the same Ilovaisk boiler - DNR and LPR could not have done that.
          2. New
            New Year day 20 September 2020 10: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: solzh
            Is not a fact. The fact that pro-Western anti-Russian authorities are in power does not prove your claim.

            you at least study the topic! For example. composition and places of formation of anti-terrorist operation battalions
            Quote: solzh
            Crimea has always sought to become part of Russia.

            Crimean? Crimeans rushed to Russia only after the Maidan. And before that we lived well
            Quote: solzh
            In February-March 2014, send the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to Ukraine and crush the Nazi bastard.

            in what year did the USSR finish with Bandera and in what way? Take off your pink glasses
        2. Igor Semenov
          Igor Semenov 14 September 2020 10: 02 New
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          Or could it have been different?
          IMHO Yanukovych would sell his mother for good money, not only Crimea.
          1. New
            New Year day 20 September 2020 10: 27 New
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            Quote: Igor Semenov
            Yanukovych would sell his mother for good money, not only Crimea.

            he sold it. For 1 billion
        3. Mayan
          Mayan 17 September 2020 15: 07 New
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          ! tragedy! voluminous closed articles of laws were, are, will be. expert officials are bound by legislative restrictions ((
      2. Revival
        Revival 13 September 2020 18: 48 New
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        Oh, so what do you think?
        Do you think that the government is not authoritarian now?
    4. depressant
      depressant 13 September 2020 09: 12 New
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      Colleague Zyablitsev, here is your question:

      "For some reason it so happened historically that only under a strong centralized and authoritarian regime Russia flourishes, but as soon as the democrats get to the helm with their brain liberalism, then a complete collapse occurs!"

      At one time, the answer was given by the respected General Leonid Grigorievich Ivashov.

      We have the largest territory in the world. At the moment - 1/7 of the land (it was 1/6). We are a whole continent, which in itself requires one-man management.

      We have the longest border, which requires huge expenses for its protection and coordination of protection from a single center.

      We have an unfavorable climate. A huge part of the territory is occupied by permafrost. For example, the United States lies entirely on the territory south of the latitude of Sochi. The unfavorable climate and the size of our "continent" lead to the fact that we will always have climatic disasters, while disasters may not come to other countries, they will be bypassed. For example, if the Far East were a separate country, it would cope with the Amur flood itself. Or the ever-burning forests of Siberia. Etc. Local forces cannot cope with such disasters. Without the help of the center, the territory of the disaster will become depressive for many years, or forever.

      More than 190 nationalities and ethnic groups live on the territory of Russia (there were 180 more recently). Some of them are radically different from some others. For example, Caucasian ethnic groups and indigenous people of the Far North. There is nothing in common in the way of life, customs, the way of obtaining food, in religious beliefs. Bringing the interests of such peoples into line with each other, without destroying their ethnic individuality, can only be a common center interested in the unity of the country.

      The peoples of Russia are at different stages of social development. From tribal tribes and feudal ideas, which can be seen in one way or another in the way of management of certain regional leaders, to a high degree of consciousness, progressiveness and paternalism of the Russian people, to which I have the honor to belong. We Russians are the blood of our country. We circulate through all arteries-regions, pulling peoples and nationalities up to our level of patriotism, which is based on the integrity of the country. We are its unifying principle, objectively leading to one-man management, to management from a single center. Because 1/7 of the land is the territory of our residence, and we are one people from Kaliningrad to Anadyr, we are categorically against the separation of us, we have a tragic experience.

      I think I have not listed all the reasons why our country as a whole needs a strong, authoritarian leader who is at the level of the listed arch-difficult tasks.

      As for the liberals, they are caliphs for an hour. The individualism underlying their worldview is not even a prop for the country's unity. On the contrary, it is the source of its disintegration into separate parts.
      1. Antonio_Mariarti
        Antonio_Mariarti 13 September 2020 13: 14 New
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        I thought to answer for a long time and in detail, but changed my mind. The main thing to know is that the youth are liberal in their mass. Whatever you do, the RF will not be centralized in the future.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 13 September 2020 14: 58 New
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          Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
          I thought to answer for a long time and in detail, but changed my mind. The main thing to know is that the youth are liberal in their mass. Whatever you do, the RF will not be centralized in the future.

          ===
          because as and what happens in the west, south and east, then liberalism becomes not so obvious and attractive. and it is possible that in the near future, the number of economic, political, environmental and spiritual problems will be so much that only a question of physical survival will be at stake, and then everyone will show himself to what extent and in all guises.
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 13 September 2020 14: 19 New
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        Madam, the United States also has territories beyond the Arctic Circle, disasters also happen there regularly. There were no regular fires, the Moscow region burned much stronger, the peat bogs burned more than once. In Siberia, they did not fight the fires, they were not allowed. there were a huge number of livestock in the kolkhoz villages, the grass was mown and eaten. There is no grass, nothing to burn. The villagers also prepared firewood on their plots, not everywhere, of course, but in Siberia it was. For example, I had 10 hectares, I mowed hay there and harvested firewood, first of all dry forests go for firewood, I planted 100 pieces in a swamp and cedar nuts, probably, they took root, I hosted there from 88 to 2006. There is no dry grass, no windbreak, nothing to burn. There were no fires even once, I am not the only one, it was like that around me, about 2 years ago I went there ..... everything was burnt there. Yes, money was allocated for the villages in the USSR, but the collective farms and schools were maintained, and there were no fires, and the roads themselves were supported. I don't need your utin, as well as the people around me. The Ministry of Emergency Situations, on TV, sent a be-20, but who needs it, a toy for a shygi. have a good evening. love
      3. Terrible
        Terrible GMO 13 September 2020 17: 55 New
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        Quote: depressant
        We have an unfavorable climate.

        All are unfavorable in their own way.
        Quote: depressant
        A huge part of the territory is occupied by permafrost. For example, the United States lies entirely on the territory south of the latitude of Sochi.

        In Canada, a huge part of the territory is occupied by permafrost. The same Americans are hit by hurricanes almost every year. A good quarter of the country is deserts or semi-deserts. In the central states, temperatures down to -40/50 in winter are the "norm".
        The same Chinese have annual landslides, floods and other troubles. The huge area is "dead" mountains.
        And somehow they live.

        Quote: depressant
        Or the ever-burning forests of Siberia.

        And they have California and adjacent regions constantly burning and living the same.
      4. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 14 September 2020 04: 41 New
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        Quote: depressant
        I think I have not listed all the reasons why our country as a whole needs a strong, authoritarian leader who is at the level of the listed arch-difficult tasks.

        The most difficult task of an authoritarian leader is to withstand the copper pipes.
        The most difficult task for the people is to bring to power a leader who really cares for the country's welfare.
        The task of any government is to preserve the management system and make sure that it cannot be “knocked off” by peaceful means.
        The task of the liberals is to give a damn about the interests of the country as a whole, to put the freedom and rights of the individual at the head of the state, while excluding the right of the “majority” and to find empty-headed supporters with whose hands one can overthrow the authoritarian regime.
        The task of the democrats is not to slip in their government of the state only to collective decision-making. State problems cannot wait for the elaboration of a collective solution and, accordingly, accept collective responsibility.
        Any government should not be afraid of the people, one should not spit on the opinion of the majority and prepare successors for oneself, guided by only one goal - to preserve one's own status.
        The current government is mired in atrocities and arbitrariness. There is a direct usurpation of power, where the bearer of power - the people - appears to them only in words. The degradation of morality, the transformation of a citizen and a patriot into an ordinary person and a consumer will ultimately lead to the fact that the country's economy will belong to people who are completely uninterested in preserving the Russian ethnos.
        The longer the rule of the current regime (which has put itself on eternal rule) is, the more destructive the consequences will be for both the Russian economy and demography.
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      1. depressant
        depressant 13 September 2020 10: 56 New
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        Eliminated ...
        Sometimes it seems to me that we see only the surface of the internal political ocean, and what large fish swim in its depths is difficult to guess. And even more so, what kind of body movements they make there.
        And sometimes it seems that everything is simple and obvious.
        Take, for example, the absolutely failed throne holder Medvedev. I took my passports! Diplomatic, for their whole family. Hint: they say, I'm a dissident in Putin's team. If anything, you have to run over the hill, fleeing the suzerain's revenge.
        There are two points.
        The first is to flee, fleeing revenge for the failed policy of ignoring national projects, for the financial doors wide open to the outside for a huge dough to flow abroad, for the achievement of an outstanding result - "negative economic growth."
        The second point.
        Is it for sale? To whom does he propose himself as a future president? Yes, this is the oligarch, who represents Russia as a pool with resources, and herself as a pump, pumping those resources abroad already in the form of a currency that is not proper for our economy.
        And, apparently, there are such moneybags who are already looking at him: after all, he justified! Justified hopes and aspirations ...
        You say: "Come on! Who will vote for Medvedev! Everyone remembers his indecision during the Ossetian-Georgian conflict, the translations of the hour hands, the famous for centuries" There is no money, but you hold on! " , other - you can add a lot! "
        Yes, that's all true. But I can imagine the enormous amount of funds that can be thrown into the promotion of the irrationality of our voting. And there is a suspicion that stuffing about passports is already promotion. Whoever did this stuffing. Like, you think that Putin is bad, and since he is the same for Medvedev, then you are in a trench with Medvedev - don't you? And if you think about it?
        Not. We are in different trenches. And between our trenches - the front line.
        1. Ajevgenij
          Ajevgenij 13 September 2020 21: 00 New
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          Very good comment, I agree with the line of thought.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 14 September 2020 04: 47 New
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          Quote: depressant
          Like, you think that Putin is bad, and since he is such for Medvedev too

          You do not add anything extra here. A good president will not force the people to work to death, will not hide in a bunker and will not surround himself with mediocre lackeys and thieving arrogant "homies".
          Moreover, he will not extol the activities of the scoundrel, forgery and betrayal of the USSR that collapsed and sold all the property of the country. And at the same time, it will not be a priori to contain state criminals at the national expense, as well as to spend state money on caring for relatives of ex-first persons.
          1. depressant
            depressant 14 September 2020 20: 32 New
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            ROSS 42 colleague ...
            So I read all your comments, and you are mine - almost never, and I was even surprised that you read this one. You didn't get the meaning. And the point is that Medvedev is already being promoted as a presidential candidate, based on his resentment towards Putin, which is automatically deduced by everyone from his public shameful resignation. Regardless of what their true relationship with Putin is. Thus, as if uniting Medvedev with everyone offended by Putin (pre-retirees, unemployed, indebted, unable to pay off loans, dissatisfied with deindustrialization, others). And since Medvedev is a politician, and others are not, thereby offering him to the leaders of the offended, who for this reason should vote for him in 24. As the leader of the front of the offended. Like, he is for you, he is with you, he will lay his bones. It is possible that Putin himself is promoting Medvedev. Where you saw praise for Putin in my words, I don’t understand.

            I have in mind a person for whom I would vote in the elections of the 24th year. For obvious reasons, I cannot name. Otherwise, someone who really needs it will stumble upon my comment, and immediately it will be discovered that that person - an ardent corrupt official, thief, bandit, sold his homeland and on occasion uses Novichok.
        3. 72jora72
          72jora72 18 September 2020 04: 22 New
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          Like, you think that Putin is bad, and since he is the same for Medvedev, then you are in a trench with Medvedev - don't you?
          Do not be fooled, they are all sitting in the same trench: Putin, Medvedev, Zhirinovsky, etc.
    6. Doctor
      Doctor 13 September 2020 10: 57 New
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      Rise of the Empire - Peter I.

      Come on. A purely pro-Western ruler who killed a quarter of the country's population during his rule.
      1. Finches
        Finches 13 September 2020 11: 43 New
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        He is the creator of the Empire! But you, a man who managed to put the national traitor Solzhenitsyn on a par with Leo Nikolayevich Tolstoy, a lump of Russian classical literature, still will not understand this! I, as I understand it, destroyers of Empires, you prefer ... hi However, at VO you are not alone in your views!
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 13 September 2020 12: 42 New
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          He is the creator of the Empire!

          European Empire, don't forget. Peter broke Russia across the ridge by instilling western values.

          If the current ruler began to introduce the states of the NATO army, brigades, caliber 5,56x45, would make his spiritual mentor some dude from Geneva named Lefort, would transfer all education, accounting to Western standards, and would assign farmers to the land with the right selling them - you would sing differently.

          And after he would have married a former German prostitute, after having repulsed her from his press secretary, you would have raised this here ... laughing
          1. Finches
            Finches 13 September 2020 12: 46 New
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            The fact remains - he is the creator of the Empire! And if my grandmother had, you know what, she would have been a grandfather!
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 13 September 2020 12: 54 New
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              The fact remains - he is the creator of the Empire!

              Western Eugene, Western Empire!
              Are you ready for the restoration of the USSR with the transition to the Latin alphabet, legalization of the LGBT and other nishtyaks? lol
              1. Finches
                Finches 13 September 2020 13: 01 New
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                No need to juggle! Peter I "he did not despise his native country, he knew its purpose" - this is our everything and this is not Solzhenitsyn laughing ... And he - "with an autocratic hand, he boldly sowed enlightenment" I brought this to you the words of Pushkin in the assessment of Peter I so that you would understand one simple thing for yourself - wise Cleo has put everything in its place a long time ago and your fantasies about LGBT people can only interest snotty schoolgirls and schoolchildren who, instead of lessons, run to rallies Navalny - there you will be a hero with your "unique" point of view on the activities of Peter! hi
        2. Doctor
          Doctor 13 September 2020 12: 50 New
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          But you, a man who has managed to put the national traitor Solzhenitsyn on a par with Leo Nikolayevich Tolstoy, a lump of Russian classical literature, will still not understand this!

          Solzhenitsyn is no less a lump than Tolstoy, at least no one better described the state's penitentiary system.
          Many have tried, the same Tolstoy on "Sunday" or Chekhov on "Sakhalin Island", but all this is weak.
          You have to go through all this yourself.

          Dostoevsky could have done it, he was nevertheless sentenced to VMN and replaced by hard labor, but did not dare. I limited myself to spiritual searches. laughing
          Hugo in "Les Miserables" approached, but did not reach Solzhenitsyn.

          In the "Archipelago" the entire system has been opened from and to. In detail, with specific examples, general conclusions on the verge of fiction and journalism. For lovers of the more imaginative, in the style of the detective there is "In the first circle"
          The gold standard, it will be compared.
          1. Finches
            Finches 13 September 2020 12: 54 New
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            You and I have diametrically opposite views on the activities of Solzhenitsyn, but apparently and not only ... But, as they say, if there is a thought, then there must be dissent!
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 13 September 2020 13: 02 New
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              You and I have diametrically opposite views on the activities of Solzhenitsyn, but apparently and not only ... But, as they say, if there is a thought, then there must be dissent!

              This is because you did not understand him.
              For you, “Two Hundred Years Together (1795-1995)” is a hymn to Jewry, but for me supertrolling, which even the Jews themselves did not see through. And they also gave the Nobel Prize!

              There is not a word of anti-Semitism in the book itself, on the contrary, all the time, the role of the people of Zion in the fate of Russia is consistently analyzed.
              But, as in a good cognac, it is not the taste that is important here, but the aftertaste.

              Try to take your time reading this book, and then sit down, close your eyes and think about how you have changed (or strengthened wink ) your views on this issue.

              This is called genius.
              1. Finches
                Finches 13 September 2020 13: 15 New
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                Come on! He considered himself a genius, however, and made his like-minded people believe it, but this is far from the case - he could become a classic of Russian literature, but he would never become one for one reason - because of terrible hatred and resentment towards everything Soviet - and the point is not even that he did not accept this power, he did not accept the country and the people as a whole! He did not love his homeland! If Tolstoy criticized tsarism and the existing order, it was solely because of love for Russia, and Solzhenitsyn because of hatred — that is the fundamental difference between them! Here the Nobel Prize was given to him not for love, but for hatred! And today the Nobel Prize is given exclusively for hatred of Russia, like the same Alekseevich - you, at least as a genius, will not write it down ...
                You mentioned Tvardovsky somewhere here, who praised Solzhenitsyn at the beginning of his work, but for some reason missed the moment that then Tvardovsky perfectly figured out what kind of fruit it was and spoke about the "Cancer Ward" like this:
                "Even if printing depended entirely on me alone, I would not publish. There is rejection of Soviet power .... You have no genuine concern for the people! It seems that you do not want the collective farms to be better, you have nothing holy .... your bitterness is already hurting your skill. "
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 13 September 2020 13: 29 New
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                  Come on! He considered himself a genius, however, and made his like-minded people believe it, but this is far from the case - he could become a classic of Russian literature, but he would never become one for one reason - because of the terrible anger and resentment towards everything Soviet - and the point is not even that he did not accept this power, he did not accept the country and the people as a whole! He did not love his homeland!

                  The question is, what did he mean by Motherland and Russia? With this he begins his article:

                  And what exactly is Russia? Today. And - tomorrow (even more important). Who today considers themselves to be the future of Russia? And where do the Russians themselves see the borders of Russia?

                  For him, this is the Russian Federation within the current borders + Ukraine + Belarus.

                  Brothers! No need for this cruel section! Is the darkening of the communist years. Together we suffered through the Soviet era, together we got into this pit - together we will get out.
                  And in two centuries - so many outstanding names at the intersection of our two cultures. As MP Dragomanov put it: "It is inseparable, but also not miscible." With friendliness and joy, the path for Ukrainian and Belarusian culture should be opened not only on the territory of Ukraine in Belarus, but also in Great Russia. No violent Russification (but also no violent Ukrainization, as from the late 20s), the unrestricted development of parallel cultures, in school classes in both languages, at the choice of parents.


                  All the rest: Central Asians, Transcaucasians, Balts - goodbye. Harosh to feed them.

                  To keep a great Empire is to kill your own people. Why this multi-colored alloy? - to the Russians to lose their unique face? We must strive not for the breadth of the Power, but for the clarity of our spirit in its remnant.

                  Not to mention the distant ones:

                  And until when will we supply and strengthen - unable to hold on to the tyrannical regimes that we have planted in different parts of the Earth - these bottomless plunderers of our property? - Cuba, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Angola, North Korea, we care about everything! and not all of them have been named, our "advisers" are still hanging around in thousands, wherever they may. And so much blood has been shed in Afghanistan - is it a pity to miss it? send money there too? .. That's all - tens of billions a year.

                  Russian nationalism as opposed to Soviet internationalism — that is what Solzhenitsin is.
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 13 September 2020 13: 36 New
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                    Solzhenitsyn, only a capable graphomaniac and a national traitor! If you adore him, then God is with you ... For some reason I am happy to re-read Tolstoy's not the simplest novel "War and Peace", enjoying myself, but I never have the slightest desire to reread Solzhenitsyn - he just took feces and stained the paper with them, so personally I am sick of his writings! I have my own life experience, a certain store of knowledge, so I made an unambiguous conclusion regarding it, and let me adhere to it! He was on the side of the opponents of the USSR during the cold war, albeit a cold one, my Motherland, my Motherland lost in this war ... Therefore, Solzhenitsyn for me will forever remain a traitor and villain, and, remembering once again, he really is a Genius - [i] "Genius and villainy are two incompatible things!" [/ i]
                    1. Doctor
                      Doctor 13 September 2020 13: 45 New
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                      Solzhenitsyn, only a capable graphomaniac and a national traitor! If you adore him, then God is with you ...

                      I don’t idolize him in the least.
                      I just treat it neutrally, like any other writer.
                      And it is very good that his personality and his works cause such heated debates, which means that he is relevant.

                      Even if a representative of the young generation Dud was not too lazy to ride to the Kolyma, it means that Alexander Isaevich did not live his life in vain.

                      Otherwise, in our happy future, during the construction of the new Kolyma road, they will find a bunch of bones and scientists will speculate: are they Neanderthals or already Cro-Magnons? wink
                      1. Finches
                        Finches 13 September 2020 13: 49 New
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                        Western ideologists have been strenuously imposed on us since 1986, and in samizdat even earlier, if Shalamov had been imposed, then now Shalamov would have been the beacon of liberal democracy, but Shalamov refused to sell his homeland, unlike Solzhenitsyn ... That's the whole price of his popularity is a total planting, not his literary ability!
                      2. Doctor
                        Doctor 13 September 2020 14: 59 New
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                        but Shalamov refused to sell the Motherland, unlike Solzhenitsyn ..

                        Where do you get all this from?

                        Shalamov, an active member of the Trotskyist bloc since his student days, did not calm down after the first landing and continued active work. Without hiding, he described it in his works. A convinced atheist.

                        Solzhenitsin is the commander of a sound reconnaissance battery, holder of the Orders of the Red Star and the Patriotic War, arrested for having seen enough of our methods of warfare, he called Stalin a ram with an obscene addition in his letter.
                        Deeply religious.

                        He did not betray his homeland, but was forcibly deprived of his citizenship and exiled.
                      3. Finches
                        Finches 13 September 2020 15: 12 New
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                        The merit of Shalamov is that he sharply opposed the publication of his "Kolyma stories" in the White emigre press, and he did it in a very harsh form, practically breaking off all his relations with dissidents, who put a lot on him - in contrast to Solzhenitsyn, who sold out with giblets! Your idol wrote so - "Varlam Shalamov is dead"! To which Shalamov replied with a letter, which was never sent, however, but preserved with very correct lines of Solzhenitsyn's description: "Pasternak was a victim of the Cold War, you are its instrument." Feel the difference?
                        Yes, they were expelled from the countries, but they acted humanely, and he repaid with the same fierce hatred, with triple force began to pour mud on his own country ... But I understand - I want to eat, but for him the money did not smell - they said to throw mud at the USSR , no problem - I'm a genius! laughing
                    2. New
                      New Year day 20 September 2020 10: 30 New
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                      Quote: Finches
                      It has been strenuously imposed on us by Western ideologists since 1986

                      rave! That's who imposed it

                      Before Putin, there was Solzhenitsyn and there was, but this man imposed him on us
                2. Doctor
                  Doctor 13 September 2020 14: 05 New
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                  For some reason I am happy to re-read Tolstoy's not the simplest novel "War and Peace", getting pleasure, but I never have the slightest desire to re-read Solzhenitsyn

                  Because Tolstoy is already far away in time. But he is the same Solzhenitsin of the late 19th century.

                  This is also Tolstoy

                  “Seven death sentences: two in St. Petersburg, one in Moscow, two in Penza, two in Riga. Four executions: two in Kherson, one in Vilna, one in Odessa "...

                  And this is in every newspaper. And this continues not a week, not a month, not a year, but years. And this is happening in Russia, in that Russia in which the people consider every criminal unhappy and in which until very recently there was no death penalty according to the law ...

                  I remember how proud I once was in front of Europeans, and now for the second, third year of incessant executions, executions, executions ...

                  Brothers people! Come to your senses, come to your senses, understand what you are doing. Remember who you are ...

                  After all, you, before being executioners, generals, prosecutors, judges, prime ministers, tsars, are above all people. Today they looked out into the light of God, tomorrow you will be gone. (You, the executioners of all categories, who aroused and aroused special hatred towards themselves, you especially need to remember this.) ...


                  Article "I can not be silent" 1908.

                  It is he who excuses the revolutionaries, if you have not understood yet.

                  ВYou say the atrocities committed by revolutionaries are terrible.
                  I do not argue, and I will add to this the fact that their deeds, in addition to being terrible, are still just as stupid and just as missed as your deeds. But no matter how terrible and stupid their deeds are: all these bombs and mines, and all these disgusting murders and robberies of money, all these deeds do not reach the crime and stupidity of the deeds you are doing.


                  The very ones that will then destroy the Empire.
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 13 September 2020 14: 35 New
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                    The empire will be destroyed not by revolutionaries, but by liberal national traitors: all sorts of cadets multiplied by Freemasonry, under the sensitive leadership of the Anglo-Saxons ..., those who then, 70 years later, will destroy the USSR and whose mouthpiece was Solzhenitsyn! So the parallel is absolutely inappropriate here!
                  2. Doctor
                    Doctor 13 September 2020 14: 40 New
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                    It is not revolutionaries who destroy the empire, but liberal national traitors, those who will then destroy the USSR 70 years later and whose mouthpiece was Solzhenitsyn! So the parallel is absolutely inappropriate here!

                    So, who was the mouthpiece for the revolutionaries of 1917?

                    Farewell, unwashed Russia,
                    The country of slaves, the land of lords,
                    And you, blue uniforms,
                    And you, loyal people to them.

                    Perhaps, behind the wall of the Caucasus
                    I'll hide from your pasha,
                    From their all-seeing eye,
                    From their hearing ears.


                    Are you patriotic?
                    This is not Solzhenitsin, but the President's favorite poet. laughing
                  3. Finches
                    Finches 13 September 2020 14: 48 New
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                    Personally, I deeply doubt that this poem was written by Lermontov! And experts - Lermontovedians too, but in Soviet times this myth was supported for ideological reasons. For the first time he was mentioned in the letter of the Pushkinist and historian Bartenev in 1873, as much as 32 years after the poet's death - the most important proof that for some reason his contemporaries did not react to such an acutely political creation ... Why did they not react? Because he did not write them ... And most likely Bartenev himself wrote, because, for some reason, he did not show the original with Lermontov's hand to anyone .... But this is a completely different story!
                  4. Doctor
                    Doctor 13 September 2020 15: 25 New
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                    Personally, I deeply doubt that this poem was written by Lermontov!

                    Clear. An inconvenient truth. We play here, but we don't play here ...

                    And why was he exiled to the Caucasus then? For laudatory odes to the king?
                    And Pushkin to Bessarabia?
                    Turgenev navayal "Mumu" where? In the link. Then he almost sat down in the "trial of the 32" for "intercourse with London propagandists." Fuck.
                    Dear Prishvin served a year, and half a year alone.
                    I generally keep quiet about Dostoevsky, at first he was sentenced to military service, then he was replaced by 8 years in hard labor, the good tsar knocked him down to 4.
                    Tolstoy did not sit, but was excommunicated. It is not known what is worse for him.

                    In Russia, a good writer is always a dissident.
                    Solzhenitsyn is no exception.
                  5. Finches
                    Finches 13 September 2020 15: 29 New
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                    Why are we playing here but not playing here - Lermontov was not exiled for this poem! And to be a dissident does not mean to be a traitor, for example, a Nobel laureate who refused the Pasternak Prize, a dissident, but not a traitor, died in his homeland, in Peredelkino, but he could have left ... Dovlatov is a dissident writer, but not a traitor or exiled Brodsky is just a poet-stupid (as for me), and Solzhenitsyn, without any dissidence, is an ordinary selling skin, and clearly tracing the conjuncture!
                  6. Doctor
                    Doctor 13 September 2020 15: 36 New
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                    Solzhenitsyn, without any dissidence, is an ordinary selling skin!

                    In what betrayal I do not understand in any way? In what was against the Soviet system?
                    So this is not a betrayal, this is a belief.

                    He believed that in 1917 power in Russia was seized by a group of international adventurers who, hiding behind the ideas of socialism, harshly used the people, resources and territory of the country to seize the planet.

                    So I wrote.

                    We lost our former abundance, destroyed the class of the peasantry and its villages, we lost the very sense of growing grain, and weaned the land from yielding crops, and even flooded it with seas with swamps.

                    We have polluted the circumferences of cities with wastes from the primitive industry, poisoned rivers, lakes, fish, today we are already completely destroying the last water, air and earth, also with the addition of atomic death, and also buying up radioactive waste from the West for storage.

                    Ruining ourselves for future great seizures under a maddening leadership, we cut down our rich forests, plundered our incomparable depths, the irreplaceable property of our great-grandchildren, and mercilessly sold them abroad.

                    They exhausted our women in heavy-duty, smoke-free jobs, tore them away from their children, let the children themselves become sick, wild and fake education.

                    Start our health in full, and there are no medicines, and even healthy food we have already forgotten, and millions are homeless, and helpless personal powerlessness is spread throughout all the depths of the country, and we only hold on to one thing: so as not to deprive us of our insatiable drunkenness.
                  7. Finches
                    Finches 13 September 2020 15: 45 New
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                    Because a traitor, a literary Vlasovite, they, too, are not traitors, but fighters against the "bloody" regime, but an intelligent, calculating, dexterous and quirky inherently muddy man to whom I have no trust! The only thing that I personally can at least somehow justify him is that at the end of his life he began to see a little, or maybe he realized that with such a sin it is difficult to visit God and was against the collapse of the country ... But how much did he do in all his life for its collapse, with these deathbed actions it is hardly possible for his people, whom he sold for the Nobel Prize and other gingerbreads, to pray! But he deserted from the front to the camps, because he knew very well that they would not pat the head for anti-Soviet letters and that they were being read, that is what happened, but he suggested something to the NKVD, that he was not driven to Kolyma, but into what then a warm sharashka ... I calculated everything correctly!
                  8. Doctor
                    Doctor 13 September 2020 16: 20 New
                    0
                    But he deserted from the front to the camps, because he knew perfectly well that they would not stroke the head for anti-Soviet letters and that they were being read, and that happened, but he suggested something to the NKVD, that he was not driven to Kolyma, but what then a warm sharashka ... I calculated everything correctly!

                    This is complete nonsense, if everything were so simple, half of our army would have fled to the camps.
                    But more often it was the other way around.
                  9. Finches
                    Finches 13 September 2020 16: 37 New
                    -5
                    Nonsense, not nonsense, but it makes you think - others would be stupidly shot, but he is not!
                3. Doctor
                  Doctor 13 September 2020 16: 26 New
                  0
                  The only thing that I personally can at least somehow justify him is that at the end of his life he began to see a little, or maybe he realized that with such a sin it was difficult to visit God and was against the collapse of the country ...

                  He was with God from the beginning. In the lower grades, he was ridiculed for wearing a baptismal cross and unwillingness to join the pioneers, and was reprimanded for attending church.
                  Maybe that's why he fought with the atheists.
                4. Finches
                  Finches 13 September 2020 16: 38 New
                  -3
                  He wanted to stand out, and who, really, with God, does not talk about it at every corner and does not kiss his pectoral cross every five minutes!
                5. Doctor
                  Doctor 13 September 2020 16: 45 New
                  -1
                  He wanted to stand out, and who, really, with God, does not talk about it at every corner and does not kiss his pectoral cross every five minutes!

                  Whichever stand out, on the contrary, he was quiet

                  In the spring of 1931, Sanya was nevertheless recruited as a pioneer. Now they looked after him especially vigilantly, and two spies from the class tracked down the newly-made pioneer who was going with his mother to church - to serve a requiem for the dead grandmother Evdokia Grigorievna. A trial was arranged with elaborations and organizational conclusions, and there was a case when the baptismal cross was torn from the pioneer by force ...
        3. Doctor
          Doctor 13 September 2020 16: 40 New
          0
          And being a dissident does not mean being a traitor, for example, the Nobel laureate, who refused the Pasternak Prize, a dissident, but not a traitor, died in his homeland, in Peredelkino, but he could have left ...

          So Solzhenitsin died at home. He was buried in the necropolis of the Donskoy Monastery with military honors.
          Gorky went to bed for a long time in Italy, and did not want to return, even when he could. Is he a traitor?
          Bunin generally remained in Sainte-Genevieve-des-Bois.

          Once again, Solzhenitsyn was expelled. Returned as soon as possible.
        4. Finches
          Finches 13 September 2020 16: 50 New
          -2
          He died in his homeland, because his accomplices in Russia were in power - national traitors, naturally, they returned him and treated him kindly - he was their main mouthpiece! Gorky, well done, and Bunin, also that nutcracker ... He was delighted with Hitler's attack on the USSR, but as a writer Bunin is much more talented than Solzhenitsyn!
        5. solzh
          solzh 13 September 2020 22: 02 New
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          Quote: Finches
          He died at home, because his accomplices, national traitors, were in power in Russia.

          Evgeny, Solzhenitsyn died on 3.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX ...
        6. Finches
          Finches 13 September 2020 22: 11 New
          -1
          I meant that he died in his homeland, because he was allowed to return and his accomplices met with all the honors in 1994!
        7. solzh
          solzh 13 September 2020 22: 13 New
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          I understood you. hi
  2. zenion
    zenion 14 September 2020 15: 48 New
    +1
    Zyablitsev. I do not understand, your skirmish with the fans of Zakordonia. I recalled the incident that happened at the ball at the Count Potocki's. Taras Shevchenko walked in the park and went out to a small stream that flowed there. A bridge was thrown across the stream. Shevchenko wanted to cross the bridge, but a punk appeared at the other end. Screaming - I never give way to shit. To which Shevchenko said - and I always stepped aside.
  3. Finches
    Finches 14 September 2020 18: 21 New
    -1
    Ina time to remain silent means to agree! It is always smarter to keep silent, but sometimes, for the power it is insulting! hi
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 September 2020 05: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    However, at VO you are not alone in your views!

    Mr. Zyablintsev! Your political credo: “Always! Yours and ours! " - is also not ideal, but we also read your fabrications, the main essence of which is not to offend.
    Your "demonstration" speeches are akin to the political pamphlets of Zhirinovsky, who from the rostrum stigmatizes the "damned power" and is the first to run to congratulate the "usurper" on his election and bows down to the pen, presenting the Order of Merit ...
    The activity of Peter I is not unambiguous, like the activity of any king. To our great regret, behind the nobility of deeds, tens of thousands of broken and distorted destinies of ordinary people, used in royal everyday life, like rags. If we recall the time of the reign of Peter I, then it is unlikely that we will find many names of folk heroes. And the period of the USSR left us hundreds of thousands of names of citizens and patriots who laid down their lives for the Fatherland. At least in this period they differ.
    Most likely, among the majority of citizens of mature age, the formation of the image of Tsar Peter was greatly facilitated by the feature film "Peter I" (not even the novel by Alexei Tolstoy "Peter the First" - it was hard to get hold of). And, in addition, the film liked Iosif Vissarionovich.
  • Postum
    Postum 13 September 2020 12: 20 New
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    Well, yes, the strong power in the person of Putin for 20 years Portugal cannot catch up, the rules are cho. Well, yes, and 17 thousand wooden ones, you think, half of Africa has been overtaken, in 20 years we will overtake the whole, if Africa stops developing!
    1. Finches
      Finches 13 September 2020 12: 30 New
      -12
      By what indicator are we not catching up with Portugal?
      1. Postum
        Postum 13 September 2020 12: 36 New
        +8
        By which Zero promised
        1. Finches
          Finches 13 September 2020 12: 40 New
          -10
          Remind me, please, if it's not difficult for you!
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 14 September 2020 05: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        By what indicator are we not catching up with Portugal?

        Quote: Finches
        Remind me, please, if it's not difficult for you!

        You are again in your role ... wassat
        Calm down! stop Caught up in all respects. And they even overtook the coronavirus ...
        Again, you are sculpting the image of a naive peasant. It was not difficult for you to study the biographies of the Romanov family, and you are not aware of the affairs of yesterday's performances ... Ha-ha-ha !!!
  • Revival
    Revival 13 September 2020 18: 41 New
    +6
    That is, we are now flourishing or ....?
    1. Alf
      Alf 13 September 2020 23: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: Revival
      That is, we are now flourishing or ....?

      We prosper. For our prosperity, a new economic concept has even been invented - negative economic growth.
  • AlexSam
    AlexSam 14 September 2020 10: 53 New
    +1
    but Zyablitsev would have written that Russia was cheated for centuries (especially the characters he listed except for Alexander II and the Provisional Government) and only the young reformers pulled it out of the quagmire and gave rays of light and freedom, would get a bunch of pluses ... Eh, Eugene, Eugene ...
  • Far B
    Far B 13 September 2020 05: 04 New
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    I am often asked questions, the answers to which can be found out after a fairly long (for a person, naturally) period
    lol The author will not die of modesty, that's for sure
    Indeed, for us, 2024 is ... the time of the end of many megaprojects already announced and operating in the Russian Federation.
    Huh! They will postpone to 2030 or 2036, it's business. For the first time, or what?
    Putin will run for the next term, taking advantage of the amendment to the constitution that we recently adopted. But what is there for the next term, for two terms! .. It is with this statement that our liberals most often frighten the layman.
    Jews, Jews, only Jews around! Liberals, liberals, liberals all around!
    The authority and respect for Putin the politician is so great that there is practically no leader in world politics who can oppose him on equal terms
    Why is there - Putin - Gd, Zeus himself brings slippers in his teeth in the morning.
    the rating of the Russian president is quite high
    By whose estimate? The author, Pamfilova, of pro-government questionnaires?
    In short, another loyal, super-strong article by Mr. Staver, who has long been famous for his love for a non-Garant (disinterested? Not entirely disinterested?).
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 13 September 2020 07: 27 New
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      Russia must change in many ways. If you like, become a comfortable country for living
      Undoubtedly!
      After all, it was comfortable for tsars and boyars to live in a poor, submissive country throughout the history of Russia! And if, what's wrong ...
      "Hey, guardsmen! ..."
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 13 September 2020 08: 13 New
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        After all, it was comfortable for tsars and boyars to live in a poor, submissive country throughout the history of Russia!
        ... And what were the delightful evenings in Russia! smile
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 13 September 2020 09: 28 New
          +7
          Something I didn't understand Alexey! hi recourse request
          Quote: parusnik
          After all, it was comfortable for tsars and boyars to live in a poor, submissive country throughout the history of Russia!
          ... And what were the delightful evenings in Russia! smile

          Well, yes, the evenings were delightful, romances and all sorts of rolls! So this is for a certain stratum of the population! And the Kings ---- had to watch out, worry, as if someone Power, Territory, did not want ...
          .... the king does not eat nor sleeps well At the king of feast and war ...
          ... I had to think, try to increase their Power Territory. ..... there was no rest. It was also necessary to provide for himself a support group, to increase ..... And if any king could not do this, then his --- that this.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 13 September 2020 18: 11 New
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            I also had to provide myself with a support group, increase

            Greetings, dear Dmitry! hi Yes, today such a "kitchen" and other shobla was thrown and put on the neck of the people that "on one with a bowl" is, as it were, not seventy "with a spoon." They sit, urge them on and are indignant why we still do not start a "breakthrough".
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 13 September 2020 18: 49 New
              +8
              Have a nice one you too hi smile
              Quote: lexus
              ....... on the neck of the people they put that "on one with a bowl" already, as it were, not seventy "with a spoon." They sit, urge them on and are indignant why we still do not start a "breakthrough".
              Every year the nomenclature reproduces itself, increasing faster and faster, separating further and further from the rest of the population.
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 13 September 2020 20: 41 New
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                Hydras reproduce by budding, producing countless copies of themselves.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 13 September 2020 21: 03 New
                  +3
                  Quote: lexus
                  Hydras reproduce by budding, producing countless copies of themselves.

                  Probably not only them. If you tear off pieces of worms, they will continue to live as separate individuals negative
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 13 September 2020 21: 43 New
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                    Chains, tapeworms and others, of course. Parasites that oppress and poison the host's organism. A very apt comparison! good I used it before, but, apparently, their "segments" of Bali are very unhappy - they began to often complain about me.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 13 September 2020 21: 51 New
                      +3
                      Somehow you have to think about how to influence them, nevertheless .......
                      1. Lexus
                        Lexus 13 September 2020 22: 06 New
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                        We'll have to remember forgotten folk "recipes" of the early XX century, undergo a FULL course of treatment, adjusted for mutations of the "survivors", and wash it down the drain of History. Further, always keep the "organism" clean.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 13 September 2020 22: 32 New
                        +3
                        Quote: lexus
                        We'll have to remember forgotten folk "recipes" of the early XX century, undergo a FULL course of treatment, adjusted for mutations of the "survivors", and wash it down the drain of History. Further, always keep the "organism" clean.
                        good and there is! Quite right
                      3. Alf
                        Alf 13 September 2020 23: 53 New
                        +3
                        Quote: lexus
                        We'll have to remember forgotten folk "recipes" of the early XX century, undergo a FULL course of treatment, adjusted for mutations of the "survivors", and wash it down the drain of History. Further, always keep the "organism" clean.

      2. snake
        snake 13 September 2020 12: 45 New
        +5
        Quote: parusnik
        After all, it was comfortable for tsars and boyars to live in a poor, submissive country throughout the history of Russia!
        ... And what were the delightful evenings in Russia! smile

        And the rolls? The rolls were crunchy! Juncker, balls, Schubert waltzes - that's all ... Lost everything ... Oh mon Dieu!
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 13 September 2020 17: 29 New
          +4
          Do not worry so, for most of the crushers, the ancestors stirred the rolls, and did not crunch, and very zealously if the gendarme threatened.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 13 September 2020 18: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: Free Wind
            Do not worry so, for most of the crushers, the ancestors stirred the rolls, and did not crunch, and very zealously if the gendarme threatened.

            that's it, it was! And the descendants of those --- drew a different picture for themselves, they think that if they were at that time, they would crunch!
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 14 September 2020 05: 33 New
          +3
          Quote: serpent
          And the rolls? The rolls were crunchy! Juncker, balls, Schubert waltzes - that's all ... Lost everything ... Oh mon Dieu!

          Read, very curious:
          https://alan-a-skaz.livejournal.com/44591.html
          1. snake
            snake 14 September 2020 11: 38 New
            +2
            I read something similar. And even without this it is clear that the descendants of workers and peasants should not be sad about the RCMP, to put it mildly.
    2. Alf
      Alf 13 September 2020 23: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      After all, it was comfortable for tsars and boyars to live in a poor, submissive country throughout the history of Russia!

      And our top and now are quite comfortable.
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And if, what's wrong ...
      "Hey, guardsmen! ..."

      Hey, National Guard!
  • parusnik
    parusnik 13 September 2020 07: 58 New
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    Liberals, liberals, liberals all around!
    ... That's for sure. smile The President declares the end of liberalism, and liberal laws are passed by the non-liberal Duma. How sophisticated these liberals are. smile
    1. depressant
      depressant 13 September 2020 12: 34 New
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      And along the way I have a question: for whom should Russia become a country comfortable for living?
      I don’t think for us Russians. Forgive me, but I have to return to this again. We are holding and holding the country together, but we are put in such unfavorable economic conditions that we are decreasing in numbers. Not to consider it a godsend that a third of the population is in debt, which means that practically every family, together with the growing prospect of a catastrophic reduction in jobs. But the doors are open for the annual admission of about 400 thousand low-skilled Asians to the citizens of the country. After joining the international organization for the rights of migrants, they, and not us, will be comfortable living with us as new citizens, and at our expense. And there will be no talk of any patriotism, expressed at least in the desire to defend their new homeland. They will rush to defend their old one, or away from the conflict zone.
      What is this policy? It turns out that in 24 we will choose the one who will make a refusal of this kind of nonsense as a point of his election program.

      Why do we do such nonsense? How many times after the release of any law one had to be surprised, and I have already spoken about this: the law will not work! And for sure: time passed, an amendment was introduced. Straight from the anecdote. Are you having a bad life? Introduce one into the house: a cow, a goat, chickens, and other animals. Live, and then sweep out at once - what a relief, what happiness ...
      Imitation. Imitation of political, legislative, economic and other activities is the motto of the outgoing Putin era. They will introduce - cancel, introduce - correct ad infinitum ...

      But according to exactly the same principle, they will foist on us a new candidate, or the same Putin. "I will do this and that, there is no time to swing!" And then it turns out that the proposed new is a return to just a well-forgotten, but somehow working old, bogged down in a wild swamp of contradictory, corrupt laws, suggesting a way out of the impasse even in small cases in the form of manual control. For example, to repair the fence for grandmother. And the rejection of Putin's direct line with the population this year is not a transition to new, progressive methods of management, which make it possible to quickly resolve such issues on the ground without the participation of the head of state, but the latter's way to make his life easier by wearing a coronavirus mask. Tired Putin, tired ...

      As a result - marking time. Trampling with a shift in terms of everything and everything into a foggy distance and all with the same manual control.
      And for some reason, gentlemen politicians do not remember that we are deeply buried, mind you, in world capitalism, which will do everything to prevent us from sticking out.
      Yes, we need unity of command, but not in a format where the driver plays the role of a conductor too, stopping the train so that it does not derail. Promising at the same time: "Do not worry, we will move! And even someday we will arrive. Where? How where? There, where the blue gave promises, the horizons of grandiose economic events and rainbows shimmer. But I'll carry the tea to the wagons."
  • snake
    snake 13 September 2020 13: 01 New
    +6
    The authority and respect for Putin the politician is so great that there is practically no leader in world politics who can oppose him on equal terms

    Quote: Far In
    Why is there - Putin - Gd, Zeus himself brings slippers in his teeth in the morning.

    Gd p (l) utocracy. On the contrary, Robin Hood takes money from the poor (including retirees) and gives it to the rich.
    Quote: Far In
    super-strong article by mister staver

    Do you notice how the article ends ominously?
    We deserve stability.

    Progress and development, apparently, did not deserve ... sad
    1. depressant
      depressant 13 September 2020 19: 08 New
      +3
      Dear Author says - stability ...
      A few days ago in the evening I discovered that everywhere I was blowing smoke from burning tires. I must say, according to the experience of 2008-2009, I will not confuse this smell with anything. Nevertheless, I rushed to the western room: I smoke there and although I take all precautions - you never know? - suddenly too hot ash fell on the linoleum, and I have a fire there. But no, everything is in order, pulls out of the wide open window.
      And just as recently as yesterday, I sat down in the kitchen to tap the answer to a colleague on the next topic and hear the roar of voices from below the entrance, clearly belonging to teenagers of senior school age. One of these lives on the 5th floor. Someone from below began to call it out, because of their confidence, because of the exactingness of their intonations - the clear leader of the "pack". After a short time, footsteps knocked on the stairs, the door slammed in the entrance, everything was quiet.
      Well, I typed an answer to a colleague from VO and went to smoke in the western room. I don't know what attracted me to the window. I came up and saw: in the light of a lantern, teenagers were hurrying in one direction from behind the neighboring Khrushchev. And one of them on the run throws to the side: "Set it on fire!" But not with the puppy glee of the naughty one, but businesslike, as they report on the work done, to the one who was hidden from me by the trees and the deep shadow of an autumn evening. I recognized by the voice: the "leader" had reported. Someone more important.
      Soon there was a puff of smoke from burning rubber.

      They don't just grow, they train. And they have adult coaches. I naively believed that this cup would pass my village, because here in the years I mentioned above, everything was on fire because of arson - institutions, private cars, municipal household equipment, so the parents made conclusions and the children should have been taught the inadmissibility of this. Not inspired. And grown-up children are now running around the village and preparing for class battles. Or terrorist activities.

      I am for stability. Albeit completely credited. But such, when having lost a job, a person with a light soul finds a new one that allows him to pay off the loan.
      Everyone wants stability. But some, not very numerous, believe that Putin's shaky stability, in which they are fed and satisfied, is enough for those who have an empty stomach and have nothing to pay for a loan, looking at them.
      Do not. We do not have.
      And their children, having absorbed the hatred of those who, on our silent New Year with completely dark windows, cheerfully burned fireworks in a hotel behind a high fence - we have such and such was, learn to burn tires because fireworks are inaccessible.

      And you, colleagues, living in the current stability that suits you, will not understand that, criticizing the political power and government, I am struggling with all my might for your own stability, in which you are. Otherwise, the authorities and the government, due to their unwillingness to at least to some extent share it with everyone, can simply oversleep, and it will dissolve in the smoke of burning tires, as if it never existed.
      Stability exists when it is shared.
  • Revival
    Revival 14 September 2020 00: 21 New
    +3
    "I am often asked questions, the answers to which can be found out after a rather long (for a person, naturally) period."
    Yes, mere mortals are weak ..

    But, not for the Author of course!
    laughing
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 13 September 2020 05: 24 New
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    Quote: Finches
    The birth of the Russian state and its formation - Ivan III and Ivan IV. Rise of the Empire - Peter I.

    Specific Sunday Joy! fellow Just a balm for the soul and a call to memory:
  • saigon
    saigon 13 September 2020 05: 39 New
    +1
    Well, we are waiting for 2024, and then we will see whether there will be a problem or there will be no problem.
    The president's term is up to 24 and what's the fuss?
    1. depressant
      depressant 13 September 2020 12: 35 New
      +4
      So that the devil does not jump out of the snuffbox.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 13 September 2020 05: 46 New
    -12
    it will be interesting to look now in the comments on the hacking of those who are for all good against all bad (under the red flag) and those who really look at the world) let there be a battle of the opera theater)))
    1. Revival
      Revival 14 September 2020 00: 31 New
      +2
      In your opinion, it turned out, and "those who are for all the bad against all the good."
      Speak, be careful ...
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 14 September 2020 00: 48 New
        0
        I have a right to an opinion)
  • apro
    apro 13 September 2020 05: 48 New
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    We deserve stability.

    We deserve the swamp ... it's not about age, it's about the goal-setting of the upper ones.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 13 September 2020 05: 50 New
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    I would like, without haste and fuss, to clarify the meaning of the last two paragraphs of the article.
    It is quite possible that the future "Putin-2" is already known to us.

    Perhaps you personally know not only "Putin-2", but also "Putin-3", "Medvedev-2" and other numbered names. But the bulk of the country's population does not remember not only the names of ministers and other members of the government, but does not even know the first name and patronymic of the prime minister (some do not even know the last name, they think that Medvedev is on vacation)
    Perhaps he is still in charge of some region or ministry. It does not matter.

    And, most likely, he is not in charge of anything, but simply sits under house arrest or is simply out of sight of the YEDRA party, so as not to be removed from the election campaign in advance, either by house arrest, or by simple administrative arrest, "far-fetched" bankruptcy ", or by some another forceful influence that prevents "anti-presidential, anti-constitutional" activities. It is important that it will not be a person of "YEDRA" or a close circle. People are tired of such people.
    The main thing, after all, is stability and the country's progress.

    The main thing is still systematic, progressive movement forward. A movement with noticeable results, with those responsible for the decisions made and the work done (or failed).
    Honestly, "toad jumps", when we jerk, with full exertion of strength, jump to another bump, in front of everyone else, and sit there, looking at the foreigners swimming forward without haste, are tired.

    To be honest, the most annoying are the “toad jumps” of certain persons on the same bump and the yachts of officials and oligarchs sailing against the background of the long-term construction of the Russian Navy ships.
    We deserve stability.

    It is true that we deserve stability. Only not the one - the cemetery, which is the "deserved" result of our life, but universal price stability and observance of the rule of law for all equally without delay, with personal responsibility for the decision made, based on the people's constitution ...
  • demo
    demo 13 September 2020 05: 55 New
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    As the date of the anointing to the kingdom approached, loyal feelings intensified among many Aborigines.
    Mr. Staver! You are clearly aiming in the future as the head of a large media service in the Russian Federation.

    If we constantly say that everything is bad in Russia, then after a while the acuteness of the problem disappears.
    If we constantly talk about the fact that everything is stable and normal in Russia, then the perception of something else does not want to accept.
    There must be a critical and meaningful approach.
    With numbers and facts.
    Otherwise, stability will imperceptibly, but tangibly and painfully, turn into stagnation.
  • codetalker
    codetalker 13 September 2020 06: 10 New
    +3
    The question is not so simple, it is not about the personality of the leader or his age, but how the management system will function. The transfer of official power is always a significant event. There will be a squabble of clans. Some of the groups will act in line with the preservation of the system in a normal state (those who want to plunder Russia, but do not mind that it exists as a state), others can sabotage this process (those who want to plunder Russia to death and go to their villas). One should also not forget about external influence. If a situation arises that a stable change of power is not possible, Putin will remain. Whether he wants it or not. They won't let go. So let's see ...
    And there is a receiver.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 13 September 2020 06: 45 New
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    When Kuchum left in Ukraine in 2004, they also tried to promote the "sunset". Now it is just "policy mothballs".
    What shocks can there be in the "swamp" ?? ... Portraits and "personnel reserve" are outweighed and transplanted. Troubles can arise only among the all-powerful class of officials ... Tribalism in the Russian Federation is the best "social lift". laughing bully
  • ximkim
    ximkim 13 September 2020 06: 54 New
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    Stability is good, but not great. Again, I observe stability (and, accordingly, the course) only at the top of the country's leadership, but what is happening in the country is more like a slow slide towards a cliff, and not stability. In the article, I will touch upon the ministers of power and the head of the foreign policy department, since security from external and internal threats (which will not go anywhere) rests on their shoulders. So ... so what kind of stability have we achieved over the past ten years? A complete mess in all areas, so you can still shoot video clips under house arrest.
  • Boris55
    Boris55 13 September 2020 07: 44 New
    -4
    Quote: A. Staver
    We deserve stability.

    As I understand it: stability is in progressive development, standing still is stagnation, degradation. I am sure that Putin will not run for president after the 24th year.

    "King makes retinue" N. Machiavelli.

    Am I afraid of a change of president - no. The president is only a representative of his clan, promoting his interests. There are no prerequisites for the clan of "siloviks" to give their conquests to the clan of "liberals" - no. everything will be good. The new president is waiting for us in the 24th.

    ps
    "State policy and management in a crowd-elite society is an agreement reached on the possibilities of various clan-corporate groups in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."
    1. solzh
      solzh 13 September 2020 21: 48 New
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      Quote: Boris55
      "The king is made by the retinue" N. Machiavelli.

      Only the king himself chooses the retinue.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 13 September 2020 07: 50 New
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    Accordingly, in 2024 he will be 72!
    ... 75 years heyday for a politician. Leonid Brezhnev. So nothing is lost. In addition, life expectancy has increased. I set the task myself! smile If you wanted to leave, why did you need to reset the dates? And about the weather ... ugh ... about stability. Everything is stable in the country, the rich are getting richer, the poor, poorer .. It would be the other way around, we could talk about cataclysms. smile
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 13 September 2020 07: 58 New
      -11
      Quote: parusnik
      If you wanted to leave, why did you need to reset the deadlines?

      Did he reset it or EP? Was it not clear from the very beginning that this was an excellent reason not to start the changes in the Constitution, which were proposed by the President + incl. this initiative of the bourgeois party aimed at disrupting his proposals is absolutely useless to the president.

      Quote: parusnik
      Everything is stable in the country, the rich are getting richer, the poor, poorer.

      Under capitalism in any country, it is not otherwise.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 13 September 2020 08: 09 New
        15
        Did he reset it or EP?
        ... Yes, by force, they forced him to do this, and he, like Zhiharka, rested with his hands and feet. As in that joke. Bury your mother-in-law? Yes. And what happened, did not seem to be sick? I poisoned myself with black caviar, but why is my face bruised? I didn't want to eat.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 13 September 2020 08: 19 New
          -14
          Quote: parusnik
          Yes by force, forced to do this,

          United Russia, represented by Tereshkova, at the last moment understood what the changes in the Constitution proposed by the president would lead to. The President did not issue a decree to extend his term - this was done by the Duma, in which the majority is United Russia.

          Now what to say about it. It is done. The people made the right choice.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 13 September 2020 08: 24 New
            20
            Clear business Duma ... smile They put a pig on Chihar. smile Confronted with a fact .. smile And he did not know about such treachery .. smile
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 13 September 2020 10: 44 New
              -8
              Quote: parusnik
              They put a pig in the Chihar.

              Didn't you see how Tereshkova, like a devil from a snuffbox, flew to the podium with her proposal? laughing
              1. Revival
                Revival 14 September 2020 00: 37 New
                +2
                So chezh did not refuse !?
            2. solzh
              solzh 13 September 2020 21: 47 New
              15
              Quote: parusnik
              Clear business Duma ... smile They put a pig on Chihar. smile Confronted with a fact .. smile And he did not know about such treachery .. smile

              Boyars they are laughing It is always the boyars who are always to blame for everything yes bully
          2. tatra
            tatra 13 September 2020 09: 14 New
            +7
            The myth in the style of "the good Tsar Putin" and "bad boyars" was created by Putin's paid propagandists to excuse Putin from responsibility for everything that Putin does.
            .
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 13 September 2020 10: 43 New
              -8
              Quote: tatra
              to excuse Putin from responsibility for everything bad that Putin does

              In this case, who does everything good, to whom to distribute the buns? laughing
              1. tatra
                tatra 13 September 2020 10: 54 New
                +4
                Yes, just as the enemies of the communists "have nothing to do" with responsibility for your capture of Russia, and always have something to do with what you got after the seizure, so your benefactor Putin has "nothing to do with everything good in Russia, and what is more, "in addition to everything bad, the" bad boyars "are always to blame for this. That is why Putin didn’t admit that he raised it for a month and a half after the announcement of the retirement age increase? And because he was waiting for the first and the strongest popular anger to pass by him and fall on the "bad boyars" - Medvedev, ministers, edross.
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 13 September 2020 11: 27 New
                  -8
                  Quote: tatra
                  Yes, as the enemies of the communists "have nothing to do with it"

                  That is, you want to say that the Communist Party of the Soviet Union divided by budding and formed the United Russia and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation benefactors of the Russian people? wassat

                  ps
                  Between the Bolsheviks and Trotskyists, I choose the Bolsheviks, and you, most likely, the Trotskyists. By the way, both of them had the same membership cards.
                  1. tatra
                    tatra 13 September 2020 11: 30 New
                    +1
                    Ha, who is Putin for you, a communist, like Zyuganov and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, or the same enemy of the communists, like the edross, and all other Russian enemies of the communists?
                    1. Boris55
                      Boris55 13 September 2020 11: 32 New
                      -10
                      Quote: tatra
                      Ha, who is Putin for you a communist,

                      For me, he is primarily a Bolshevik. By the way. His introduction to power and the takeover of control was successful.

                      Remember your communist: "Take as much sovereignty as you can"? There would be no Russia if Putin had not stopped the collapse of it, started by the communist-Trotskyists.
                      1. tatra
                        tatra 13 September 2020 11: 33 New
                        0
                        Again, HA, and by what parameters - the same as those of the Soviet Bolsheviks - you so boldly assert?
                      2. Boris55
                        Boris55 13 September 2020 11: 36 New
                        -12
                        Quote: tatra
                        Are you so boldly asserting this?

                        Yes, at least by how the authorities deal with the coronavirus, how they help families, etc.
                      3. tatra
                        tatra 13 September 2020 11: 40 New
                        +2
                        Well, HA again. If the authorities in the capitalist countries of the world coped well with the coronavirus, if Trump distributed thousands of dollars to all Americans because of the coronavirus, then according to your "logic" all these authorities are Bolsheviks. Okay, I gave you some money to make, and that's enough.
                      4. Revival
                        Revival 14 September 2020 00: 41 New
                        +2
                        How does it help families? Crumbs of supplies? Well then yes ..
                  2. solzh
                    solzh 13 September 2020 21: 43 New
                    15
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Remember your communist

                    Boris is yours, not ours.
                    Quote: Boris55
                    He is primarily a Bolshevik for me

                    Funny. laughing
                  3. Alf
                    Alf 13 September 2020 23: 58 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Quote: tatra
                    Ha, who is Putin for you a communist,

                    For me, he is primarily a Bolshevik. By the way. His introduction to power and the takeover of control was successful.

                    Successful for him, but not for the country.
              2. solzh
                solzh 13 September 2020 21: 44 New
                14
                Quote: Boris55
                The Communist Party of the Soviet Union divided by the budding method and formed the EP

                wassat Boris, what are you talking about? When did this EdRo "spin off" from the CPSU?
                Quote: Boris55
                Between the Bolsheviks and Trotskyists

                Where did you find the Trotskyists? Or rather, who do you think is a Trotskyist now?
          3. Revival
            Revival 14 September 2020 00: 38 New
            +3
            And not to whom, since no one does
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 13 September 2020 09: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: parusnik
    Accordingly, in 2024 he will be 72!
    ... 75 years heyday for a politician. Leonid Brezhnev. So nothing is lost. In addition, life expectancy has increased. I set the task myself! smile . smile
    And if you look at the United States, we see a fierce struggle for the presidency of the elderly, those over 70.
    Well there was Obama, younger and black. So it was a tribute to tolerast liberalism. Now again the elders. No one remembers age
  • Free wind
    Free wind 13 September 2020 08: 08 New
    +9
    The time will come about someone will grunt, leave, throw off, beat down, there are a lot of examples, the death of such who imagined themselves to be gods. And his faithful followers will screech to look for a new owner, and then yapping again: if samosa-bambos, then who., Without him everything will collapse.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 13 September 2020 08: 21 New
    +7
    It's fashionable to talk about 2024 today. It's fashionable to argue. And most importantly, it's safe for your own image. Remember Khoja Nasreddin and his treaty with the emir? “After all, in twenty years one of the three of us will surely die: either the emir, or the donkey, or me. And then go and figure out who knew theology better! "

    the author of the article writes about himself. after all, it was he who raised this topic.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 13 September 2020 08: 39 New
    +1
    Yes, we will get a new head of the country.
    Key phrase of the text. There was no need to write anything else.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 September 2020 09: 20 New
    +4
    The problem of changing power (systemically, without a revolution) exists .... Any progressive politician turns into an old man over time. And his entourage begins to lead.
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 13 September 2020 13: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      The problem of changing power (systemically, without a revolution) exists .... Any progressive politician turns into an old man over time. And his entourage begins to lead.

      But, the system is already sharpened for one, quite specific person. And he is unlikely to want to leave just like that.
      PS. As for the age. Judging by the American politics, modern medicine is already offering the "elite" quite real solutions in terms of prolonging life and, moreover, an active life. I do not think that Putin has no access to this benefit. So, in 74, and beyond, he will be "more alive than all living things."
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 13 September 2020 16: 04 New
        +3
        America has a developed economy and they print a reserve currency. Therefore, in this case, it is a bad example. The Russian Federation needs sustainable growth ... and the leadership should be sharpened for this. The RF cannot afford stagnation. There is no safety margin.
        1. Alf
          Alf 14 September 2020 00: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Russia needs sustainable growth ...

          We have been "growing" for twenty years.
          Quote: Zaurbek
          and the leadership should be sharpened for this.

          The direction of the sharpened leadership has long been clearly visible to everyone who has a vision of the real situation.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 14 September 2020 09: 10 New
            0
            Neither you nor anyone else has a vision of the real situation ..... Now everything is changing rapidly and, well, if the leadership has it. But you can do banal things so that taxes go to the treasury, and not to offshore.
            1. Alf
              Alf 14 September 2020 13: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: Zaurbek
              But you can do banal things so that taxes go to the treasury, and not to offshore.

              So what's the problem?
              This fact proves that the country's leadership is happy with everything and does not intend to change the existing order.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 14 September 2020 13: 57 New
                0
                Then there is no problem. Article to nowhere!
  • ivymotek
    ivymotek 13 September 2020 09: 26 New
    +2
    As soon as the vertical of power built by the elder Putin breaks down, Russia will break apart. When Putin has no alternative in such a large country, or is not allowed in, the country is doomed. It's horrible and funny when they brought the people to the point that if there is Putin, that is Russia, and there is no Putin, there is no Russia, and this is in the 21st century ??? I think that there should be no more presidential office in Russia, only a parliamentary republic.
    1. Alf
      Alf 14 September 2020 00: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: ivymotek
      I think that there should be no more presidential office in Russia, only a parliamentary republic.

      The parliamentary system of government is death for Russia.
  • U-58
    U-58 13 September 2020 09: 44 New
    +9
    Well, if "the collapse of the public administration system", then why is the author sucking on current personalities?
    For they are the flesh and blood of the existing system.
    Moreover, the collapse of the system (which is not only needed, but also ripe) implies a complete change of the "guard", since former "tired".
    Debauchery from liberalism to democratic socialism is objectively necessary.
    Such a system will suit most of society, today, alas, the poorest and most disadvantaged.
    Will Putin and his team [curators] have enough courage to calmly transfer power to a different, new system?
    It seems to me that not.
    Too much the current team has heaped up personally for themselves and their nukers.
    Correcting this will entail the weaning of the acquired "back-breaking labor"
    Therefore, with all the need for change, new leaders will not be allowed into power.
    Will fair elections remain a bright but unrealizable dream?
    The example with Grudin perfectly illustrated this.
  • And why do you need
    And why do you need 13 September 2020 10: 04 New
    +7
    How did Degtyarev calm the Khabarovsk Territory? As the rallies were held from July on Saturdays, they are still going on. As the mayor's office of Khabarovsk underestimated the number of protesters, it still underestimates. The central media and TV channels are stubbornly silent about this. They gave handouts to Degtyarev from Moscow .... But the people did not calm down. So you shouldn't rely on the young and mostly inexperienced and incompetent
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 13 September 2020 10: 10 New
    +6
    There will be no problem.
    Yeltsin appointed a little-known non-politician Putin, past all kinds of parties. There were no problems.
    Putin appointed Medvedev. - Likewise.
    Medvedev appointed Putin. Likewise.
    All together appointed the unpopular EDRO as the ruling party. No problem again
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 September 2020 12: 22 New
      -1
      Putin appointed Mishustin - by the way, he is now 54 years old, so Putin will most likely appoint him as the new presidential candidate for the elections in 2024.
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 13 September 2020 10: 11 New
    +9
    Everything is clear with the author for a long time. But I would like to ask ardent admirers of Putin - well, what if he slips in the bathroom tomorrow and dies, is Russia the end? Are you seriously? laughing
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 13 September 2020 11: 55 New
    11
    what is such a problem? They have already attached their children to all sorts of posts, some even have shoulder straps with big stars. And the kids probably have kids too. so I don’t see a problem (or rather, THEY don’t see for themselves, there is someone to replace) but for US ...
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 13 September 2020 13: 32 New
    -8
    stability .. that's the most important thing now!
    1. tech3030
      tech3030 13 September 2020 15: 00 New
      12
      Stable to pull my own to the bottom !?
    2. solzh
      solzh 13 September 2020 21: 36 New
      15
      Stability and confidence are needed now. But we don't have them.
  • Victorio
    Victorio 13 September 2020 14: 45 New
    -6
    We deserve stability.
    ===
    right, and thanks to Putin for that, including.
  • iouris
    iouris 13 September 2020 14: 46 New
    +3
    Maybe. But my question is: will there be 2021?
    1. solzh
      solzh 13 September 2020 21: 34 New
      11
      Will definitely be yes and very soon 2021 will come. It remains until 2021, at the time of writing my comment, exactly 109 days 5 hours 25 minutes. bully
  • tech3030
    tech3030 13 September 2020 14: 59 New
    +8
    I don't care who is in power, stop robbing and strangling people! And those who are now doing this and with a contemptuous and impudent smile (no money, but you hold on!) Continue to do it. Here's a simple answer to all of this!
  • matross
    matross 13 September 2020 15: 02 New
    12
    Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, head of the Russian Guard Viktor Vasilyevich Zolotov.

    Staa? what
    Today Rosgvardia is far from the internal troops of the USSR. These are real combat units that have combat experience and are almost constantly fighting.

    You are ... uh ... wrong here too.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 13 September 2020 17: 20 New
    +4
    Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, head of the Russian Guard Viktor Vasilyevich Zolotov.

    He is not a deputy minister. He was such until 2016, but then they were separated into a separate power structure.
  • Terrible
    Terrible GMO 13 September 2020 17: 45 New
    +7
    The authority and respect for Putin the politician is so great that there is practically no leader in world politics who can oppose him on equal terms. And the attitude of the people of Russia to their leader can be seen at any elections, at any polls. Even when unpopular decisions are made, the rating of the Russian president is quite high.


    The meaning of the laudatory article is clear from the first lines. And who if not Putin ?? If Russia will leave, it will collapse, the Poles and Americans will take it apart.
    1. solzh
      solzh 13 September 2020 21: 29 New
      15
      Quote: TerribleGMO
      who if not Putin

      There are such leaders in the communist movement.
      Quote: TerribleGMO
      the Poles and Americans will take it apart.

      Yes, they really want to dismember Russia. The USSR was dismembered and very successful for them. They now have Russia next in line.
    2. Alf
      Alf 14 September 2020 00: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: TerribleGMO
      The meaning of the laudatory article is clear from the first lines. And who if not Putin ?? If Russia will leave, it will collapse, the Poles and Americans will take it apart.

      Until 2000, too, every day blew in the ears, if Yeltsin leaves Russia, death, who is also Neeltsin ... And suddenly, bang, there was a replacement!
  • GREG68
    GREG68 13 September 2020 17: 52 New
    +5
    It is quite possible that the future "Putin-2" is already known to us.
    Of course known - this is Putin-1
    1. solzh
      solzh 13 September 2020 21: 26 New
      14
      Most likely it will be so.
  • Bagatur
    Bagatur 13 September 2020 18: 08 New
    +7
    Gerontophilia ... Is it impossible to change the government normally in Russia? A person, even Putin, has wear and tear ... Fresh blood is needed at all levels of the State Department.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 September 2020 21: 04 New
      -1
      Here is the Leaders of Russia competition just for this - but the current prime minister will become the new president with a greater degree of confidence.
    2. solzh
      solzh 13 September 2020 21: 26 New
      14
      Quote: bagatura
      We need fresh blood at all levels of the State Department.

      You need to update. But they don't have to do it bully They do not want to have rivals in fresh faces.
  • Revival
    Revival 13 September 2020 18: 39 New
    +5
    That's it ... the second half of the nonsense is no longer strong enough to read ...
    A tear of affection and honor ..
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 13 September 2020 21: 00 New
    +2
    It is quite possible that the future "Putin-2" is already known to us. Perhaps he is still in charge of some region or ministry. It does not matter.
    The important thing is that if you drop under any official, there will be bribes, corruption and malfeasance. And by and large no matter who will be there after 24, for the people it is the same
  • Undecim
    Undecim 13 September 2020 21: 04 New
    +5
    The authority and respect for Putin the politician is so great that there is practically no leader in world politics who can oppose him on equal terms.
    After such praises, a well-known anecdote is recalled about the reasons for the difficulty of defecation in dear Leonid Ilyich.
    1. solzh
      solzh 13 September 2020 21: 21 New
      17
      For all his "shortcomings", Leonid Ilyich was a bright personality. I respect him very much both as a person and as a politician.
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      2. Alf
        Alf 14 September 2020 00: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: solzh
        For all his "shortcomings", Leonid Ilyich was a bright personality. I respect him very much both as a person and as a politician.



  • DPN
    DPN 14 September 2020 06: 11 New
    +2
    The Soviet people will go to another world, and the young people, and in Africa, the young people will have their say as in 1991.
  • Ersh
    Ersh 14 September 2020 12: 27 New
    -1
    I will not say anything about the article itself, it is about nothing. Commentators "delight"! Guys, look at the age of the US presidential candidates! Merkel! On what has been done in neighboring and not only countries. Remember what Putin got after your adored EBN. And then write what kind of bastard Putin is and what he has brought the country to.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 14 September 2020 19: 16 New
    +1
    I don’t know whether it’s true or not, but one prisoner told that the peace and quiet on the streets is the fruit of an agreement between the authorities and thieves - peace and quiet on the streets (I mean specific lawlessness) in exchange for inviolability and a share in the revenues of the signatory state. It’s very suspicious since 2010 it became safe to walk the streets at night, and all over the country at once.
    1. depressant
      depressant 14 September 2020 21: 10 New
      +2
      By the way, colleague, you are right - about the absence of night crime. Our local policeman is not visible or audible, but he is. Apparently, all thieves and bandits have found new ways to take property from citizens. I believe, with the help of Internet fraud, having entered into a tight bundle with lawyers. Other times, digitalization leaves its mark on the robbery technique. As recently as yesterday, Yandex warned: be careful, if your "World" card is in your mobile phone, do not lose your mobile phone. The finder will pay for purchases from your card.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 15 September 2020 14: 14 New
        +1
        I will tell you more, the pairing of android, ios and other mobile shells (then according to the protocols that are directly on the devices) and the protocols of a normal PC is itself that is not a hole the size of a galaxy. He personally broke all the accounts of a person and got access to everything connected to a smart, just from his usual cheap smart. I would not have believed in life if someone told this, but my own eyes are a witness.
  • reader65
    reader65 15 September 2020 04: 50 New
    +2
    Again, the Kremlin elders rule, as in the union under Brezhnev. Again stability. Will know kirdyk soon.