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Fake Territory: Western Big Lie Theory

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Source: rusvesna.su


Democracy textbooks


Oddly enough, but it was the democratization of Western society that led to the widespread dissemination of disinformation in the media space. Freedom of speech provided an opportunity for everyone to express their opinion, to expose it to the public. This is, of course, a great platform for inventing something that has nothing to do with reality.

Over time, the average person learns to filter information garbage and trust only trusted resources. But quite often government agencies, concerned with public support, act as generators of fakes. All unpopular decisions have to be somehow justified before the electorate. (In the case of an authoritarian regime, such a problem does not exist: the people only need aggressive propaganda.) They were not distracted by the construction of intricate disinformation in such situations. Mindful of the experience of World War II, when hatred of the Nazis in the United States was kindled, among other things, by personnel from concentration camps, modern political strategists began to sculpt fakes. One of the most famous media disinformation was newsfollowed by the invasion of Iraq by American soldiers. American PR agency Hill & Knowlton has published history how Iraqi soldiers broke into Kuwaiti clinics, retrieved babies from incubators and threw them on the concrete floor. Especially famous was the "girl Naira", an eyewitness who witnessed the atrocities of Iraqi soldiers. As a result, the public supported the outbreak of the 1991 Gulf War. Later it turned out that Naira al-Saba was the daughter of Saud bin Nasir al-Saba, the ambassador of Kuwait to the United States, and H&K completely fabricated all the evidence. Another example of a fake: in April 2014, the Ukrainian television channel Espreso.tv broadcast a report about “empty Crimean counters”, as evidenced by a photograph. The information turned out to be fake: the photo attached to the report was taken in 2012 in the United States during Hurricane Sandy - this could be identified by the Starbucks glass in the background, there was no such cafe in Crimea.

The media, as is clear from the examples above, have become the main distributors of disinformation. We can say that a certain gold standard of methods and techniques has developed, which is used by foreign propaganda as a blueprint. First of all, this is an outright lie, directed both against one's own country and other states. In addition, a specific tendentious selection of facts is possible, mixed with dissimilar opinions and facts. Authors often emphasize the data necessary at this moment, keeping silent about the really important. A ban is introduced on certain facts so that the public does not form a negative connotation of a fact or event. So, at the Nuremberg trials, as you know, it was forbidden to mention the Munich Agreement and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Of course, this cannot be called a direct lie, but it did not contribute to the formation of a complete picture of what was happening in the pre-war period. Further, in a mythical, or maybe a real textbook of practical disinformation, there is a thesis about the presentation of negative information: it is it that is assimilated by the reader and viewer in the first place. If the goal is to undermine a foreign state, then fakes that discredit the authorities and law enforcement agencies work well here. For example, the operation to deliberately poison a well-known opposition figure or a former intelligence officer looks convincing: this creates a pretext for accusation. Without presenting any facts, without cooperating with the accused, powerful public opinion can be created. The story with Alexei Navalny looks like a typical disinformation. The European establishment obviously needed to somehow react to the development of the world's first vaccine against COVID-19, and the birth of the absurd story with the Novichok poison seemed like an excellent answer. It was certainly possible to partially neutralize the wave associated with Sputnik V.

Controversial world leaders are convenient targets for masters of disinformation. They regularly exercise on Kim Jong-un, who is accused by the South Korean media of shooting officials either with anti-aircraft guns or with mortars. Later, the alleged victims appear in public quite healthy, but the story of the North Korean leader's sadism settles in the minds of the inhabitants for a long time.

Counter-fake work can be an interesting example of disinformation. For example, in 2014, students and graduates of the Mohyla School of Journalism from Kiev launched a specialized Internet resource StopFake, designed to expose fakes about the situation in Ukraine. The site quickly became popular. But citizen journalists and bloggers practiced exposing disinformation that was attributed solely to Russian manipulators. Thus, StopFake has formed and continues to form the impression that only Russia is waging an information-psychological war. Consequently, this anti-fake resource is, in addition to a revealing tool, also a propaganda tool that mimics civic journalism.

In war, all means are good


Political games with truth and lies fit perfectly into the model of military aggression. The public approval so much needed by the Western military has to be obtained through very dirty methods. The assembly point in Trnopolje in northern Bosnia since 1992 has become an excellent backdrop for the creation of perhaps the most famous photo fake of the last decades. A successful photograph of an emaciated young man behind barbed wire hit the cover of Time magazine and instantly became a news sensation. Serbs staged genocide of Bosnian Muslims! After that, calls for the punishment of cruel Serbs were heard everywhere, the memory of the atrocities of the Holocaust was so fresh. After the war, in 1997, German journalist Thomas Deichmann nevertheless discovered the forgery, though not himself:

“It all started when his wife, looking through the photos, noticed that the wire was attached to the other side of the fence. Her experience as a gardener affected. "



So the story of the Balkan concentration camp was presented in the media. Source: lv.baltnews.com


Fake Territory: Western Big Lie Theory

And so it was in reality. Source: warhead.ru

But history is quickly forgotten, and in 2001 Colin Powell demonstratively shakes a test tube at the UN General Assembly, which proves the need for military aggression in Iraq. Chemical weapon became a scarecrow in the Libyan conflict, when pro-Western propagandists in the person of Al-Jazeera convinced residents that Muammar Kadaffi was the second Hussein and would definitely use poisonous substances against his own people. The American CNN and the British Air Force have already shown their sanity and incorruptibility in all their glory in the Syrian conflict. They simply bombarded Syria with fakes about the mass shootings of demonstrators, the resignation and side of the opposition of important political figures. The aforementioned Qatari "Al Jazeera" and "Al Arabiya" from the United Arab Emirates even built the set for filming the fake video. Skillful counterfeiting of the streets of Syrian cities and staged atrocities by the military created the necessary information background against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. Creation of credible disinformation in video format was a response to the massive spread of high-speed Internet, mobile phones and video hosting. Spending a little on staging can mislead several million not-too-sophisticated viewers. And then it will only get worse: next in line is the DeepFake computer simulation technology, which allows even an ordinary user to create a completely new reality with world-famous characters.

Often, the instigators of disinformation themselves become victims. For example, on April 23, 2013, Syrian hackers hacked into the Associated Press's Twitter account and filled it with disinformation about the attack in the White House:

"Urgent. Two explosions in the White House. Barack Obama is injured."

The reaction with the denial was not long in coming, but the sensitive stock indices of the United States managed to sag noticeably. A trifle, of course, but the very fact of such a vulnerability of the US media space makes one think.

Finally, the most important conclusion from the theory of the great Western lie. Over the many years of the existence of such a manipulation apparatus, people have formed the opinion that no one can be trusted. And this, of course, is more dangerous than any falsification of facts and distortion of events.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 11 September 2020 05: 29
    10
    This is an information war, which we are definitely losing.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 11 September 2020 05: 32
      +6
      Quote: Pessimist22
      which we are definitely losing

      And who is this “we?” If you are talking about the leadership, it is sometimes “ideologically” at war with itself.
    2. Finches
      Finches 11 September 2020 06: 34
      +4
      Because we Russians, unlike the Anglo-Saxons, have a conscience! The Americans generally put it on a grand scale with their main regular formations of psychological operations as part of the Armed Forces! We have everything godly! "- We would have a saber and a horse, but on the line of fire! And [informational] intrigues, this tea is not about me!"
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 11 September 2020 08: 48
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        And [informational] intrigue, this tea is not about me! "

        I don’t know about that general, but you’re not bad at it.

        Hybrid warfare is a war on all six priorities of human governance. In order to survive in this war, we need to know them and be able to resist them at all levels.

        First priority - ideological (if you want to defeat the enemy - corrupt his children).
        Second priority - chronological (rewriting the history of the Second World War);
        Third priority - factual (newbie);
        Fourth priority - economic (sanctions);
        Fifth priority - weapons of genocide (covid, GMO, drugs);
        Sixth priority - weapons of destruction (terrorists, the FSB detains them constantly).
      2. Deck
        Deck 11 September 2020 11: 56
        0
        Because we Russians, unlike the Anglo-Saxons, have a conscience!


        We also learn and do the same.
        1. cost
          cost 11 September 2020 17: 12
          +1
          Political photo fakes have long become a hallmark of the United States

          In 2015, American television aired a Republican campaign video in which President Barack Obama was accused of having secret ties to the Iranian elite. A photograph of the head of state and Iranian leader Hassan Rouhani holding hands was presented as evidence, causing the election scandal

          Obama was then saved from accusations .... Rouhani himself, who said - "complete nonsense, we don't even know him" smile
          After a short investigation by the FBI, they managed to find the original photo: in it Barack Obama is holding the hand of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
      3. kin
        kin 11 September 2020 19: 12
        +2
        Conscience? I read a selection of news and I think Russia is the country where Chipollino lives. Either a new tax is introduced, the CMTPL is increased, the Ministry of Transport is "fighting" cars, the Ministry of Health will check drivers, then the Ministry of Internal Affairs is tightening exams for VU, etc. etc. Who is fighting whom? Hair stands on end, this is where information and not only war is going on. Most do not care what is happening in Ukraine, or even more so further.
        1. Finches
          Finches 11 September 2020 19: 17
          -9
          Do not live in Russia, since you are sad, if you live - blessed America is waiting for you! And if you don’t live, then you write about what you don’t know personally, which means that you are a "citizen of a lie!" laughing However lied in any case!
          1. kin
            kin 12 September 2020 14: 38
            0
            No comments yet ...
      4. DeFalco
        DeFalco 23 October 2020 13: 01
        0
        But what about the TV story about the supposedly crucified three-year-old baby on the first channel and the certificate of the "SS centurion" in the program of Dmitry Kiselev?
        No, friends, you are no better than the Anglo-Saxons. And you have no conscience either.
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 October 2020 11: 51
          0
          So much the better - that there is a conscience, but for the tricks of Solovyov and those like him, who occupied the media and working for the Anglo-Saxons, the Russian person does not answer! Look, as they say in the root, if you can, and if not, then not here either!
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 11 September 2020 06: 37
      +3
      and we cannot win it. those technologies that we just started to study there were already perfected to mastery. a boy who has been boxing for half a year simply cannot beat the master of sports in boxing. not only did they create them, they also improved them. plus what is also important, they control almost completely the means of delivering the product of these technologies to the consumer, and nothing can be done about it. well, only if the Chinese version of the Internet and everything else. but in our country any restriction immediately turns into screams and cries that the authorities are holding people's mouths.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 11 September 2020 08: 56
        -4
        Quote: carstorm 11
        and we cannot win it. those technologies that we just started to study there were already perfected to mastery. a boy who has been boxing for half a year simply cannot beat the master of sports in boxing.

        Russia is not one thousand years old. According to the chronology we have in the yard 7528, and how many years are the USA? laughing
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 11 September 2020 09: 21
          +1
          it's not about age. I didn't talk about him at all. it was just that the technologies of creating public opinion and so on were developing there, but we were in no hurry to do this. everything was honed for the USSR all the years of its existence.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 11 September 2020 09: 51
            +1
            Quote: carstorm 11
            technologies for creating public opinion and so on developed there

            Since time immemorial, we have not only written, but also painted laughing

            About technology and who is cooler.
            Management is a word, oral or written. For these purposes, we have 20 free TV channels received throughout the country. How many free channels are there in the West, in the USA?
        2. Max otto
          Max otto 11 September 2020 13: 04
          -1
          Quote: Boris55
          Etc.
          Russia is not one thousand years old. According to the chronology we have in the yard 7528, and how many years are the USA? laughing

          You would have read for a start where the year 7528 came from and what chronology it belongs to. By golly, a country boy with 3 classes of education and they did not finish.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 12 September 2020 12: 31
            -1
            Quote: Max Otto
            Where did 7528 come from?

            We read the Decree of Peter 1:

            "1735. - December 19. Nominal. - About writing henceforth of Genvara from the 1st of 1700, in all the papers from the Nativity of Christ, and not from the creation of the Mipa.

            In the Rozryad and in All orders, in notes, notes, in letters and in all our Great Sovereign decrees about all things and in the clerks and on the squares in all the places and in the lists in the lists and in the lists of the Voyevod and in the lists all clerks and worldly dѣlakh lѣta write and count the years of Genvar from the 1st 7208 year and count this from the Nativity of the Lord God and Savior of our Jesus Christ in 1700, and a year after Genvara on the 1st of the forthcoming year 7209 to write from the Nativity of Genvara on the 1st of 1701 and in the forthcoming fix on the same, and from that new year January of the month and other months and dates to write on a row before January, without fail and in other years, counting years from the birth of Christ, therefore. And then We have ordered the Great Sovereign to commit, in order that in many Christian neighboring peoples, who keep the Orthodox Christian Eastern faith with us according to us, they write the number from the birth of Christ. And if someone wants to write and from the creation of the mipa: and im write both letters from the creation of mipa and from the Nativity of Christ in a row freely."

            So, according to the Decree of Peter, I have the right to write this date freely. hi
            1. Max otto
              Max otto 12 September 2020 15: 43
              -3
              You don't even know how to use the Internet. You found what you wanted, not the source of the chronology.
              Whatever you suffer, I will tell you how it happened very briefly. And so the two centers of the Christian world decided to correct the calendar, the one that established chronology in Rome "from the birth of Christ", and the one in Byzantium - "From the creation of the world." If you have logical thinking, it will become clear that this calculus arose only after the baptism of Russia, and was borrowed along with this baptism.
              Adieu. All the same, I recommend getting at least not a complete average laughing (joke)
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 12 September 2020 15: 51
                -1
                Quote: Max Otto
                and the one in Byzantium - "From the creation of the world."

                The question is not where the chronology came from, but what happened to 5508 years of our history. When we answer this question, then we will understand where it came from and where it went.
                1. Max otto
                  Max otto 12 September 2020 16: 03
                  -3
                  You have failed in logic. I will explain in more detail, but also briefly. The monks gathered in their main cathedral (I believe Sophia, which is now a mosque) and first decided to introduce a countdown from the creation of the world (they decided that one day is equal to 1000 human years, by the way, on what basis - history is silent about what you want, dark times, either the 5th or 10th century A.D.), then they figured out, according to the Bible, when and what happened, how much time had passed and that's it. And here is the chronology "from the creation of the world." Thus, even a fool understands that here is a purely collegial decision of obscurantists not based on anything. Without any history and scientific research.
                  By the way, so as not to get up twice with "from the birth of Christ" everything is the same, absolutely the same decision only by the Pope.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 13 September 2020 07: 20
                    -3
                    Quote: Max Otto
                    In this way, even a fool understands that here is a purely collegial decision of obscurantists

                    The current civilization is ~ 7 thousand years old. This is the time elapsed after the Flood. Here is the report from him. There was also before the Flood civilization (Atlantis), about which we know little because of silence, but people lived there the same. Roerich, Hitler was looking for her in Tibet. Someone in the depths of the ocean ... in general the main purpose of changing the calendar is to circumcise the memory of the people. I would like to believe you that humanity appeared 2-3 thousand years ago, and on the territory of Russia only a thousand years ago, believe. It makes no sense to persuade a believer.
                    1. Max otto
                      Max otto 14 September 2020 10: 47
                      -2
                      In your answer to me - EVERYTHING is wrong. and about 7 thousand years and about 2-3 thousand years.
                      In general, everything is clear with you. Everything that I wrote to you - you can forget and throw it out of your head, otherwise it is fraught, the adequacy will leave you completely, and I do not want to harm anyone. Forget it.
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 14 September 2020 13: 07
                        -2
                        Quote: Max Otto
                        adequacy will leave you completely

                        You can believe that our civilization is the first and only one, and I believe that it is the seventh. The second priority of managing humanity is chronological. "Look back at your backs more often to avoid notable mistakes in the future" Kozma Prutkov.

                        Until historians begin to talk about it and give intelligible reasons, we are free to believe in whatever we want. The biblical interpretation of the World does not suit me.
                      2. Max otto
                        Max otto 16 September 2020 13: 15
                        -1
                        Do you have 3 accounts? Or do you have friends? I thought, after all, there are no brainless people at all, but it turns out there are 3 of you laughing
          2. Pavel57
            Pavel57 15 September 2020 13: 29
            0
            And Peter's decree is not a decree for everyone
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 11 September 2020 09: 38
      +7
      Quote: carstorm 11
      and we cannot win it. those technologies that we just started to study there were already perfected to mastery. a boy who has been boxing for half a year simply cannot beat the master of sports in boxing. not only did they create them, they also improved them. plus what is also important, they control almost completely the means of delivering the product of these technologies to the consumer, and nothing can be done about it. well, only if the Chinese version of the Internet and everything else. but in our country any restriction immediately turns into screams and cries that the authorities are holding people's mouths.

      And most importantly, a country with a higher standard of living of the population will always be more attractive to the average global citizen. Therefore, to defeat the West, you need to reach the midwestern standard of living, and for this you need to break your own mentality - a painful thing.
      1. Finches
        Finches 11 September 2020 20: 24
        0
        It is not necessary to break anything, it is fraught with ..., they have already broken firewood in their history! And the Truth in life is one and sooner or later it puts everything in its place!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 11 September 2020 20: 27
          +1
          And if we don’t break, we will be outsiders)).
          1. Finches
            Finches 11 September 2020 20: 30
            -1
            Not! We were and will remain Russians!
  2. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 11 September 2020 10: 31
    +2
    Quote: Pessimist22
    This is an information war, which we are definitely losing.


    I would not say that we are losing the information war, just the world is very strongly tied to the United States, economically, politically, technologically, and even if our information reaches the end consumer in the West, then nothing changes, since other factors come into force: economy and dependence on the United States in all areas. And in the future, it is not known how quickly the situation will change .... the abandonment of the dollar in the long term is possible, but the US controls key / significant technologies on which the whole world sits, the situation with Huawei is a vivid example of the world's dependence on US technology, when sanctions can completely cut off oxygen any high-tech company. And as long as it is, nothing will change, the only hope is for China, which will create its own technological empire, which will be independent from the United States and will be an alternative, then the world will really have an alternative. Returning to the topic of fakes and information war, we can only say the following .... propaganda and information processing alone will not go far, as an example I will cite the situation with the detention of our "Wagner's" in Belarus, there is enough evidence and evidence that this is the work of the Ukrainian and American intelligence services .... anyone in the West is interested in this topic? Will there be a trial? Sanctions against Ukraine / USA? No, since this topic is not interesting to them. But then there is a hot topic with Navalny, under which new sanctions against Russia can be imposed. And no matter how much we try, to reach out to the same Europe, everything is useless ... since there is an installation from above and they work according to it, and if we continue to try to promote this topic, we will come to the same dependence of the world on the United States.
  3. RealPilot
    RealPilot 11 September 2020 10: 34
    -1
    The information war is underway. It is a fact. We are not losing, but rather retreating. The defeat in the war comes after the surrender.
    But, yes, we lost some battles, and won others!

    Why rush into battle with the means of a superior enemy, they constantly provoke us to respond, in order to expose and trample us later? Drawn into the trap of lies.

    But the popularity of RT and Sputnik TV channels is growing in the world. And why? For truthfulness. No matter how much I looked, they do not lie and raise issues that the Western media ignore.
    We had Soviet journalism, which, apart from ideological clichés, was by no means bad! Half the world was guided by it.

    That is, we clearly and massively cannot work for the Western public. We are jammed there. But there are other countries that are also not happy with this state of affairs. This is where to work! We left there, it's time to return.
    And especially pay attention to the post-Soviet space.
  4. CSKA
    CSKA 11 September 2020 13: 09
    0
    Quote: Pessimist22
    This is an information war, which we are definitely losing.

    How did you define it?
  5. iouris
    iouris 11 September 2020 14: 18
    0
    This is a war we are not going to win.
  6. solzh
    solzh 11 September 2020 15: 55
    +7
    The states themselves and the entire Western world, this is one big fake based on lies, deception and distortion of human values.
  7. Bitter Truths
    Bitter Truths 28 November 2020 21: 52
    0
    Quote: Pessimist22
    This is an information war, which we are definitely losing.

    Which we are definitely winning! RT and Sputnik watch and listen all over the world, and the West is trying to shut them down. Is this not the hysteria of the losers? Meanwhile, the popularity of these Russian media continues to grow and they are often listened to as before, Radio Liberty, only now the West is trying to close itself off from our media, forcing all of its own to sing in unison with the "party line"! We seem to have changed places! In this anyway ...))
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 11 September 2020 05: 32
    0
    time is ...., general sales. Deception is one of the methods of trade ...., but our world is based on trade ... and not on production, as the Marxists mold to us .... You can't cheat, you can't sell.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 September 2020 05: 53
      +3
      All to be honest!
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 11 September 2020 10: 38
        +9
        "A lie, repeated a thousand times, becomes the truth. The more monstrous the lie, the more readily it will be believed."
        All this worked and is working now.
  • apro
    apro 11 September 2020 05: 42
    +3
    And why are you lying? ... and what is not clear. I want to deceive you. And then appropriate your material values. All ...
    The war is such. It is waged in all directions. And sometimes the military club is not the main one.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 11 September 2020 05: 55
      +3
      Quote: apro
      the military club is not the main one.

      This is the "last argument of kings" ...
  • Free wind
    Free wind 11 September 2020 06: 15
    +8
    Officials, we have their own fake comets, she wondered what she did by commenting on the photomontage picture.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 11 September 2020 06: 40
      -4
      is she editing? who said that?
  • parusnik
    parusnik 11 September 2020 06: 19
    +5
    Oddly enough, but it was the democratization of Western society that led to the widespread dissemination of disinformation in the media space.
    .... What does the democratization of society have to do with it? ... As if in other epochs fakes were not betrayed and did not form public opinion by distorting information ... For example: "Carthage must be destroyed" - with these words Mark Porcius Cato ended every speech for any topic in the Roman Senate.
    1. Far B
      Far B 11 September 2020 06: 38
      +3
      What does the democratization of society have to do with it?
      Also on this phrase at the very beginning of the article I stumbled. The widespread dissemination of disinformation in the media space began with the concentration of many media resources in the hands of a small handful of media moguls. And they naturally began to use it to form the images they needed. And here, by the way, there can be no talk of any "freedom of speech" - you need to write and speak exactly what the owner demands.
    2. meandr51
      meandr51 12 September 2020 22: 50
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      What does the democratization of society have to do with it?

      Moreover, under "democracy" the direct dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (fascism) is replaced by the manipulation of the masses by deceiving or disorienting them.
  • 1536
    1536 11 September 2020 06: 36
    +5
    Logic dictates that if they go against you with a machine gun or attack using MANPADS, then you cannot fight back with a club. Let's see how the work was carried out against German propaganda during the Great Patriotic War. On the example of some posters of the Kukryniksy, this can be easily understood. Without even looking at the old filing of newspapers of all levels, starting with divisional and army, published by the political departments of the Red Army. Let's read the literature of that time, watch a movie. But it seems that this experience of ours is forgotten, not studied and not used. But in vain.
    The villains must be beaten with their own weapons, but when they ask for mercy, tell the truth and judge them. Why do we still have no government in exile in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland or Ukraine? Why are there no reports (true, by the way) about violations of the rights of Russian people in Ukraine or in the Baltic countries, with details? Why do the embassies of these countries feel so at ease in Moscow and Russia that they recruit our citizens, deceive them, protect their agents of influence? Why are Americans who have committed crimes in Russia in an information vacuum? It is necessary to report on their criminal activity, and there is a lot of such, both in terms of criminal and economic crimes in our land. It is necessary to rip off the mask so carefully hung on the Americans by Hollywood. Not enough money or is it political will, bordering on the usual betrayal? Or is it an interest in something else, in the usual contractual game with one gate? A representative of the Foreign Ministry said something about someone, which means he said, stop making excuses, wiggling his mustache. It is I who can make excuses to the Serbs, not the government. Otherwise it is not politics, otherwise the game must be stopped.
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 11 September 2020 07: 07
      0
      )))
      Quote: 1536
      Let's read the literature of that time, watch a movie. But it seems that this experience of ours is forgotten, not studied and not used.

      It was the Soviet experience of propaganda that led the late Soviet people to believe in the West as a saint in Gd.
      Quote: 1536
      Why do we still have no government in exile Lithuania, Latvia,

      )))
      Of non-citizens? This is please.
      Quote: 1536
      Poland

      Where will you find the Poles in exile? Jaruzelski lived in Poland for 25 years after his retirement, everything was more or less normal with him.
      Quote: 1536
      Ukraine

      What's the problem? You have the President of Ukraine, alive and legitimate, in Rostov-on-Don.
      Quote: 1536
      Why are there no reports (true, by the way) about violations of the rights of Russian people in Ukraine or in the Baltic countries, with details?

      I didn’t think that anyone had enough reports about “violation of the rights of Russian people” in Ukraine. Somehow, hands do not reach the Baltics, sorry.
      Quote: 1536
      Why the embassies of these countries feel so at ease in Moscow and in Russia

      Closing the embassies of the Schengen countries is a great idea, it's high time.
      Quote: 1536
      Why are Americans who have committed crimes in Russia in an information vacuum?

      Some kind of strange thesis. Who is hiding the crimes of the Americans from you?
      1. 1536
        1536 11 September 2020 10: 02
        0
        Wordy and not reasoned, dear. Regarding the condemnation of Americans in Russia, read the information of the BBC just before the arrest of 33 of our citizens in Minsk. As for Soviet propaganda, I was talking about the war period. I wish you success.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 14 September 2020 10: 25
        -1
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        Where will you find the Poles in exile?

        * thoughtfully ... Let's declare the Belarusian part of Kresy Wschodnie true Poland, we will form a government in exile there and demand that the temporarily lost territories of mainland Poland join them. smile
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 15 September 2020 07: 58
          +2
          Like the Chinese government in Taiwan and the rebels in Beijing? Good idea, good. More Hell!
    2. Avior
      Avior 11 September 2020 09: 23
      +2
      ... o if they go against you with a machine gun or attack using MANPADS, then you cannot fight back with a club.

      Attacking with MANPADS is not an easy task smile
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 September 2020 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      Why do we still have no government in exile in Lithuania, Latvia, Poland or Ukraine?

      Probably because we already had our own government of the "Democratic Republic of Finland" under the leadership of Comrade Kuusinen. After which, any such government created on the territory of the USSR / RF is perceived as a means of seizing the country, which this government represents.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 11 September 2020 06: 57
    +1
    Lies, a double-edged sword! But, reckoning, often, does not come very quickly!
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 11 September 2020 07: 26
    +7
    Speaking of fakes. How about the fact that only galoshes were produced in the Soviet Union? Or that Kolchak is a great polar explorer? Finally, maybe two years will pass and it turns out that the topic of coronavirus was artificially promoted?
    Oh yes, only bourgeois make fakes. Here the question is, those who write about this really do not realize that in Russia the same capitalists as in the United States?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 September 2020 10: 29
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      Speaking of fakes. How about the fact that only galoshes were produced in the Soviet Union?

      This is a fake of another plan: "selective quotation". The original was about "the defense industry and space created in the USSR are objects of national pride, but consumer goods ("galoshes") were worthless".
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 11 September 2020 08: 31
    -2
    And then there was Yushchenko's "poisoning" and Tymoshenko's hernia. This shows the level of Western doctors or rather their dependence on politicians and special services.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 11 September 2020 09: 11
    +3
    You can't trust anyone. We, too, are full of stupid fakes, promises, articles and remogs.

    As if on purpose so that people no longer believe in anything
  • Avior
    Avior 11 September 2020 09: 20
    +3
    It's funny that the author in the article for the Russian reader did not find examples of disinformation and propaganda from the Russian media and from the Russian authorities that are understandable and close to the reader.
    And about the fence with barbed wire - the author, it makes no difference which side it is attached to. If it can be removed, then stick your hand behind the pillar - it's a matter of one second. And if you can't, then what's the difference from which side ...
  • tatra
    tatra 11 September 2020 09: 28
    -1
    Enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR, cannot live calmly and peacefully, without the "image of the enemy", they have been waging their vicious, aggressive, deceitful, hypocritical information wars both against dissidents and against for 100 years after the October Revolution. each other according to the same pattern - whipping up hysteria, throwing a heap of slanderous and unsubstantiated accusations at those whom they have chosen as an "enemy", exposing for crimes those facts that the enemies of the communists in all other cases justify or "do not notice."
  • BAI
    BAI 11 September 2020 09: 40
    -3
    people form the opinion that no one can be trusted.

    Most people don't have that opinion.
  • Petrik66
    Petrik66 11 September 2020 10: 32
    -2
    Judging by the comments, there are basically all the scavengers and trolls. What are we losing? Someone will let us into their information field? But that is not the question. There is an example - a car alarm, when it was installed on a car, then its task is to attract the attention of passers-by, the owner, etc. when attempting unauthorized access. In the 2000s, studies were carried out in London and Birmengham, at rush hour a person opened the car and a siren turned on .... no more than 5% responded, since the alarm sound had already become background noise. Public opinion? Who do you mean? Deputies? So they all belong to local elite groups, whose interests they defend and really they do not need, but they need, observing certain "rules of the game" that they also invented, to get maximum benefits from certain situations. You might think that some of the powers that be do not understand that the bulk or Skripal nobody hounded? What's the difference, Russia again got in with its vaccines, broke the game of respected people. She did not allow the entire outskirts, Belarus and, in general, to be connected, she has the audacity to have an opinion different from what the same respected people tell her. They sent the Russian military to Italy - scoundrels and spies, made the vaccine first, and even called it "Sputnik", recalling the epic feil in space - in general, double arrogance, and how much more you can endure. as in a fable - You are only to blame for the fact that I want to eat ... Only Russia is not a little sheep ....... from this and rage. Why are you paying attention to this? What are we losing? there are the right people in the Russian Federation who, by virtue of their service, put pepper in the pants of our German and American "partners" - these are their questions and judging by how they hate Sputnik and RT? Do not read Soviet newspapers before meals.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 11 September 2020 10: 52
    0
    A person, by nature, must believe in something. Radio-TV-Internet makes it easier and easier to deceive a person. Soon it will be impossible to distinguish the synthesized image from the real one.
    New technologies in the old war.
  • dobrik10
    dobrik10 11 September 2020 11: 13
    +1
    No, our political strategists do not lose anything, and they will not play.
    Personal comments on the pages of their personal burst of emotions.
  • WeAreNumerOne
    WeAreNumerOne 11 September 2020 15: 47
    0
    It is good that in the Russian Federation public opinion does not matter. Therefore, you can not be distracted by such trifles, but Rosgvardia will talk to those who disagree. Love your homeland!
  • shed
    shed 11 September 2020 15: 56
    0
    the case of Gebels, although dead, is alive and well. The baton is continued by the American exceptional and their Western hangers-on, stink all over the world
  • Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 11 September 2020 22: 50
    -1
    1989 - Panama. The reason for the invasion was the incident with the murder of an American serviceman on the evening of December 16, 1989. The Americans claim that a group of four American servicemen got lost in a convertible and accidentally ended up near Noriega's residence. After that, according to the Americans, the guards opened fire on the car for no reason. Nariega said that the Americans were the first to open fire on the security personnel, and one of the Americans was killed as a result of the return fire. In general, find out yourself who to believe - the president of the impoverished banana republic, who decided to nationalize the Panama Canal in order to feed its people or the Superpower, which wanted to get its property back.

    1991 - Kuwait. Naira's testimony. A heartbreaking report by a Kuwaiti nurse in the US Congress about the killing of babies by Iraqi soldiers in a Kuwaiti hospital. Later it turned out that the "nurse" was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States and her testimony was completely fabricated.

    1992 - Bosnia. Lies about Serbian concentration camps in the Times magazine.

    1999 - Serbia. Lies about ethnic cleansing in Kosovo.

    2001 - Afghanistan. A highly controversial thesis about the Taliban's ties to al-Qaeda. Suffice it to say that not a single Afghan was among the terrorists on September 11, 2001. Well, okay, let's not touch this sensitive topic ...

    2003 - Iraq. Lies about the WMD program in Iraq. Powell's famous speech at the UN. A test tube with anthrax.

    2011 - Libya. The reason for the intervention was Gaddafi's accusations of killing civilians. As a result of the 2011 NATO bombing, at least 72 civilians were killed. The Civil War in Libya continues to this day.

    2017 - Syria. Chemical attack in Khan Sheikhun. It turns out that two US Navy destroyers entered positions for "retaliation" a few days before the actual chemical attack took place.

    2018 - Syria. Chemical attack in Duma. Subsequently, BBC employee Riam Dalati admitted that the company used staged footage for its stories.

    Lies after lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 September 2020 10: 33
      +1
      Quote: Connor Macleod
      2003 - Iraq. Lies about the weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq.

      There was another interesting situation. Then the media accused Saddam of creating nuclear weapons: they say, he actively purchased equipment and components for its production. It was only when they began to dig the sources of this information, they came to the guys from Langley, Virginia, who, with a blue eye, said that they were just conducting a study on the possibility of forming public opinion through the media.
  • Mikhail Ya2
    Mikhail Ya2 12 September 2020 19: 21
    +1
    You can remember the "crucified boy" in Donbass
  • meandr51
    meandr51 12 September 2020 22: 51
    0
    Quote: 1536
    Or is it an interest in something else, in the usual contractual game with one gate?

    Correct guess.
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 13 September 2020 13: 48
    0
    "conclusion from the theory of the great Western lie". If you leave out the word "western" from the sentence, then the article will really claim to be true. For lies and rabid propaganda are the mode of existence of all modern media. And the Russian media are no exception.
  • GERIX_2
    GERIX_2 14 September 2020 18: 54
    0
    Medveputa also lie to us. You need to take noodles from medvepoots.
  • Alexey Gusev_4
    Alexey Gusev_4 28 September 2020 08: 45
    0
    America (USA):
    - the country of the ELITE of swindlers, adventurers and swindlers;
    - ELITE country of crooks and rogues;
    - the country of the ELITE of planetary banditry.