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September 11 - Day of a specialist of educational work bodies of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

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Officially, educational work in the Russian army began on September 11, 1776. On this day, the charter of the Imperial Land Noble Cadet Corps in St. Petersburg was approved. For the first time in stories In our country, the positions of educational officers were established.


Particularly great attention was paid to educational work in the troops in Soviet times. One of the main reasons for the victory of the Red Army in the Civil War was ideological work among the personnel of the armed forces of the young Land of Soviets, which was carried out by the commissars.

During the Great Patriotic War in October 1942, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR issued a decree, according to which the posts of military commissars were abolished, and the deputy commanders for political affairs (political commanders) began to perform the educational function.

So they were called until September 1991. Then the political commanders began to be called assistants to the commander for educational work, and they stopped specially training officers of educators in educational institutions.

The training of military educators was resumed only in 2002. Now officers-educators who graduated from military universities in the corresponding military registration specialties receive the qualification "Educator-psychologist".

The editorial board of Voenniy Obozreniye congratulates the officers-educators - worthy descendants of Soviet commissars and political instructors on their professional holiday.
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  1. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 11 September 2020 10: 05 New
    +1
    I never thought that the armed forces would introduce a "political officer day."
    1. Temples
      Temples 11 September 2020 10: 19 New
      0
      Day of a specialist of educational work bodies of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation


      It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have failed.

      You need to educate children.

      Didn't you have enough mind to name the political worker differently?
      Kindergarten teacher.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 11 September 2020 10: 27 New
        0
        I had the last Soviet edition. We were no longer political officers, but deputies for the educational part. And the diploma listed as a civilian specialty not a "teacher of history and geography", but a "social pedagogue-psychologist", But this did not change the essence.

        I remembered:
        - What is the difference between a commander and a political officer?
        - The commander says "Do as I say!", And the political officer - "Do as I say!" smile

        And yes, in Belarus at many enterprises and institutions there have long been deputies of leaders for ideology. How efficiently they work is another question.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 11 September 2020 10: 56 New
          +6
          educators ... receive the qualification "Educator-psychologist

          Were educators. We became teachers. Growing, however ...
          That is why it was impossible to leave the political officers? From the fact that they are constantly renaming, what, will they work differently? That the policemen were suddenly renamed the police.
          Personally, I associate the police with policemen, educators with a kindergarten, and a teacher with a school.
          fool
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        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 11 September 2020 11: 28 New
          +3
          At each parahodik I had a captain's assistant for the political part. So there are differences between the Pompolit Pompolit. Pompolits with the names of the seasons, I remember with a shudder. Happy holidays, health!hi
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 September 2020 17: 37 New
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            Quote: tralflot1832
            I had a captain's assistant for political affairs on each parahodik

            I had one case, probably the only one for the entire civilian fleet of the USSR, we wrote off the Pompolit from the ship (floating base). "Debriefing" was brutal, the captain was replaced, out of seven members of the party bureau, four were reprimanded and entered in the registration card, the deputy and I received a stricter registration in the registration card and got off well again. Although the blame was put forward to me, "What right did you have to declare on the ship broadcast to the passenger Gogolkin (the former pompolit) to arrive for the transfer into the boat." And at the party commissions the question was already harshly posed "What right did you have the right to raise your hand against party power," and I blurted out like a fool, "I only know an ode to Soviet power!" Decided to ask the party committee for expulsion from the party. In general, dry the crackers. Well, I had to contact my friend, who helped me out more than once, the secretary of the Communist Party Central Committee for the fleet, Eleanor Sipre. At the party committee, I already knew what to say, "the young man is to blame, I will improve." In general, he received a stricter with an entry into the registration card from the Central Committee of the Communist Party, then a year later, thanks to Eleanor, the reprimand was removed. This is how it was to go against political politicians. But my soul is pleasant.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 11 September 2020 17: 53 New
              +2
              Indeed, the only case. In my first flight, the captain's team wrote off. The commander was on our side.
              hi
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 11 September 2020 17: 58 New
                0
                Quote: tralflot1832
                Really the only case.

                The captains were written off, and they were afraid to get involved with the party. We then thundered to the entire fleet. But before the collapse of the Soviet Union I was never appointed a captain.
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 11 September 2020 21: 16 New
                  0
                  Sorry, you are a capian fisherman? As far as I know, in all the "cold days" it was very difficult to become a captain. Too much turnover went through you. We had constant scandals with the variety of fish. The last straw were two cases in the Namibian zone. And both with my steamboat .The price of the issue is $ 50 per ton, the tonnage of 7000 tons of transport. After these cases, we refused the services of sevkholod. We transferred them to PPR transport such as Grumant. Geyser and Pavlovo. The fish is such a monetary thing. The most important thing is not to be lazy and keep everything under your control The Georgians in Poti were masters in this business. They did not have Soviet power. This is where the mad money was spinning. Millions of dollars per flight. hi
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 11 September 2020 21: 38 New
                    +1
                    Quote: tralflot1832
                    Excuse me, are you a captain a fisherman? As far as I know, in all "cold days" it was very difficult to become a captain.

                    He started out as a fisherman in the ARPO "Ocean", then on a floating base, transport (we had a fishing one, a transport, a floating base and a PR). For the last 10 years before the collapse, he worked at the floating base as a chief officer, then went under the flag, there he already became a captain on the reefs. brought fruits, meat from Brazil, Argentina and Australia, fish to Africa from Europe and Walvis Bay. Now I have sat ashore for 4 years. In general, it shook the world, great times were under the Union, it's nice to remember, and it was also not bad in the commercial fleet.
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 11 September 2020 21: 46 New
                      +1
                      I'm glad for you, I have only excellent sea memories. For 25 years, I "burned out" but not 75% of my salary, of course, only twice. All flights are successful. One flight even for a twin stay. Without 6 days a year. It was a fun flight, and cap with pompolite defended. Not cruise. Miracles worked and earned money, different. It was fun. hi
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 11 September 2020 21: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: tralflot1832
                    Poti were masters in this business. They did not have Soviet power. That is where the mad money was spinning.

                    They ruined the entire fleet, I remember at the reception it was in England, there 3 Georgian fishermen froze, but mostly they stood, and they remained standing for debts. After that I never saw a single Georgian. Money made everything leftist.
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 11 September 2020 21: 58 New
                      +1
                      Acceptance Ullapool, Lerwick; Weymouth, Edinburgh, Inverness? I was there 90 96 years old. Tralflot and Dolphin LTD, daughter of MTF. It's scary with Georgians, the steamers disappeared with the crews. In Murmansk, they wrote on poles, help a night of people. the sea met. The Georgians had a super Atlantic fleet and the Pulkovo meridian, all new. Tidbits, in the gangster 90s. In Lerwick, we saw the two-humped Kaliningrad base on the stones, Lunakhod under the sink, in a crevice?
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 12 September 2020 13: 35 New
                        0
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        In Lerwick, did you see the two-humped Kaliningrad base on the stones, the Lunakhod under the sink, in the crevice?

                        The floating base "Pionersk" Kaliningradskaya, on the southern roadstead of Lerwick, sat down with me. The "Lunokhod" near the Bressey lighthouse lies on the northern roadstead, and the Kaliningrad RTMS is flooded. A terrible place, I lost three anchors there.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 11 September 2020 14: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Temples
        Kindergarten teacher.

        Considering that some, even having a gray hair, remain at the level of schoolchildren, the definition of "educator" is just right. yes wink
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 11 September 2020 10: 43 New
      +1
      WELL! FOR Political Workers! drinks
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 11 September 2020 18: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: 4ekist
        WELL! FOR Political Workers! drinks

        Political workers have never celebrated such a holiday. And since they no longer exist, they never will. But drink - let's drink drinks
    3. Finches
      Finches 11 September 2020 10: 53 New
      0
      Education is a very important thing in a person's life! Here, for example, Navalny's folder was not brought up, there was no time, since the officer, by the way, a communications officer, graduated from the Kiev Engineering Department, so he grew up ... what has grown! And now he is rinsing the brains of young people through the prism of Anglo-Saxon propaganda and in the interests of the Anglo-Saxons!
      1. Yngvar
        Yngvar 11 September 2020 17: 11 New
        0
        Hello to colleague (signalman) Eugene! Throughout his entire army life (22 years old), only the first political officer of the battalion in the School was remembered on the positive side, it's a pity then he resigned ... In the army, political workers were engaged in more surveillance than education ...
        1. Finches
          Finches 11 September 2020 17: 21 New
          +2
          hi It depends on the person - I had a political officer in the brigade - an educator from God and an extremely decent person! But, unfortunately, he died early, did not live to 44.
    4. Civil
      Civil 11 September 2020 11: 02 New
      +8
      All political instructors with a holiday)
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 11 September 2020 13: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        All political instructors with a holiday)
        no ... no commissars or political instructors ...
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 11 September 2020 18: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Civil
        All political instructors with a holiday)

        Is there such a holiday, or what? belay
    5. tourist
      tourist 11 September 2020 16: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: tihonmarine
      I never thought that the armed forces would introduce a "political officer day."

      This name is so stupid now, and the functions are the same as Vlad!
      Well, for the real political instructors !!!!!! drinks
      In the first years of the Second World War, the Germans were the first to shoot them at the slightest suspicion ..
      Only then, before the collapse and especially after the collapse of the USSR, they poured mud and slandered their very necessary work .. Now they allegedly restored, but in a cunning way, so that God forbid the liberd did not suspect anything .. That's how we live now in Russia, if only to offend and not run into op ..
      Happy Commissars!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 September 2020 17: 41 New
        0
        Quote: turist
        In the first years of the Second World War, the Germans were the first to shoot them at the slightest suspicion

        And at the same time, the only order, which was not awarded to political workers in any army, during the Second World War is the military leader, "Alexander Nevsky".
        1. tourist
          tourist 11 September 2020 18: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: turist
          In the first years of the Second World War, the Germans were the first to shoot them at the slightest suspicion

          And at the same time, the only order, which was not awarded to political workers in any army, during the Second World War is the military leader, "Alexander Nevsky".

          Vlad, I understand your sarcasm, but when they killed the commissars on the front line who were raising the fighters in the last attack, who took their place later? Headquarters staff, so they spread their activities and poured in oredny ... And after the Victory, the Political Administration of the USSR was crammed with the Tashkent front ... hi The same Brezhnev fought, but as a political instructor .. Who do you think he wrote a book and hanged orders? !!!!
          Those who later ruined the USSR .. Slinging dirt on commissars and ideological people loyal to the fatherland ..
          What do we have now? Nothing constant worry about the future
          Orders of Courage and the Star of the Hero are given out to the right and left (quietly)
          This is how we live, we chew bread .. hi
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 September 2020 19: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: turist
            Those who later ruined the USSR .. Dirty commissars and ideological people loyal to the fatherland.

            Why sarcasm, I didn’t invent it, it’s me from the book of P.A. Mikhin. "We fought with the" Tigers "quote. And the good notes of AI Shumilin" Vanka Rotny "published after his death. There is good, there is something else. You cannot smear everyone with one world. 2 corps commissars and 5 divisional commissars, each had their own job, and it is impossible to deny their merits during the Second World War, they did their job as expected.
            1. tourist
              tourist 11 September 2020 19: 35 New
              +3
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Why sarcasm, I didn’t invent it, it’s me from the book of P.A. Mikhin. "We fought with the" Tigers "quote. And the good notes of AI Shumilin" Vanka Rotny "published after his death. There is good, there is something else. You cannot smear everyone with one world. 2 corps commissars and 5 divisional commissars, each had their own job, and it is impossible to deny their merits during the Second World War, they did their job as expected.

              I also read various sources .. But the most interesting thing is that these are films shot from the 90s, that it is not a film about the war, then the political instructor is evil and special ... they interfere with the love of liberal-minded soldiers and female soldiers right in the trenches ..))) I'm talking about that young people do not like to read alas!
              They hammered this sterotype into them ..
          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner 11 September 2020 19: 25 New
            +3
            Political worker Brezhnev was a military officer and not a coward. And what about orders and medals? Yes, to hell with them! The tasks were solved, the government order was carried out. The main reward is that the wife is not a widow and the children are not orphans. And we always have real commissars who, at a difficult moment, will say their sacred things: "Russia is great, but there is nowhere to retreat ...!"
            1. tourist
              tourist 11 September 2020 19: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: Captive
              Political worker Brezhnev was a military officer and not a coward.

              I agree .. I looked death in the eye soldier The sycophants from the propaganda departments have vulgarized him. They have cunningly exhibited everything.
    6. Doliva63
      Doliva63 11 September 2020 18: 37 New
      0
      Quote: tihonmarine
      I never thought that the armed forces would introduce a "political officer day."

      Is the difference between a political officer and a teacher not noticeable? laughing
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 11 September 2020 20: 07 New
        +3
        The teacher of the snot wipes the "warrior" and calms the mother with the folder, and the real political officer, the real, pissing boy brings to his senses and leads him to fight, to carry out the order of the commander.
        1. tourist
          tourist 12 September 2020 08: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Captive
          The teacher of the snot wipes the "warrior" and calms the mother with the folder, and the real political officer, the real, pissing boy brings to his senses and leads him to fight, to carry out the order of the commander.

          Very accurately expressed !!!!!
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 12 September 2020 21: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Captive
          The teacher of the snot wipes the "warrior" and calms the mother with the folder, and the real political officer, the real, pissing boy brings to his senses and leads him to fight, to carry out the order of the commander.

          Average drinks But in fact, the political officer must know in advance who can piss on him and do everything to prevent this from happening. For this there is (i.e., there was) a large set of tools and methods. We had 2 punctures - one soldier, due to the fact that he was left in the squad's attire, when everyone went to the jumping camps, threw himself out the window (glory to Allalhu, he remained alive and well, but transferred); another, already in armor and with a weapon, when he was not taken to the operation, tried to stab himself with a knife. That is, as you can see, albeit with a delay, the system worked - the unreliable ones were identified and removed in advance. And there were opposite examples: I had a radio operator Misha, a cool radio operator and a good scout, but small in stature. And this depressed him - that they would not be accepted into the group when there was something serious. Well yes. You look at him - a kid, and he needs to carry weapons with ammunition, and a walkie-talkie with additional food, but more and more running, but uphill. In general, I began to take him with me to the group. And every time, when breaking away from the pursuit, I hammered him: Misha, you are a small tractor, you can do anything. He ran, puffed and dragged. And he soon realized that he was no worse than the others. And the nickname stuck - "Little Tractor". And they looked at him no longer as a small one, but as a tractor. Then he became a senior radio operator, junior sergeant. In general, I liked "working" as a political officer - everything worked out for me, only 1 fighter was expelled, which I inherited "by inheritance" and whom I, in fact, did not really have time to recognize. at night - "elephants", which means - "elephants". And calmly walked home. And then the commanders and I "worked". Eh, youth! laughing drinks And I also had a swim with weapons and hand-to-hand combat, and an inquiry, and a "part-time job" in the prosecutor's office, and I don't remember what else. He came home late, got up at 5.40, because I ran to exercise, like everyone else, with personnel. But when, a couple of months after demobilization, a fighter brings home a box of beer to my parents with the words - thank you for the service, is this an assessment or not? Well, even if it is, but I was not too lazy to go across Moscow. And when, a year later, former fighters find you in the hospital - how's that? Then, when he became a commander, his political experience was invaluable. I am very grateful to my school.
  2. Prisoner
    Prisoner 11 September 2020 10: 06 New
    +8
    So the Day of Political Politicians. Happy holiday, commissars! I was always lucky to be a political officer; I came across worthy people. But some comrades were unlucky.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 September 2020 10: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Captive
      I was always lucky to be a political officer; I came across worthy people. But some comrades were unlucky.

      There were all sorts of people who were nice to remember, just normal people, but there were also such "tear off and throw away", especially "lucky" for those were bird names, I still will not forget Sorokin and Vorobyov.
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 11 September 2020 10: 45 New
        +2
        laughing I once had a political officer Charkin. The soul is a man, a hard worker and justified the name.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 September 2020 11: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Captive
          I once had a political officer Charkin. The soul is a man, a hard worker and justified the name.

          There were such people, and mostly, who went through the crucible of war. With a kind word I remember Harry Antonovich Feldman and Vladimir Ivanovich Belous.
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 11 September 2020 14: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: Captive
          once there was political officer Charkin. Soul-man, hard worker and justified the name.
          I had a chance to meet with the deputy. according to BP Dubonosov - yes, a surname sometimes makes a person. laughing
      2. kepmor
        kepmor 11 September 2020 11: 01 New
        +8
        frankly, among the commanders with headquarters "oak" was always in abundance ...
        personally, I was lucky with the deputies ... the Kiev political for the fleet prepared good officers ...
        and they knew their business well, and the officers of the watch / navigators were not the last, and in critical situations they did not give up ..
        they were normal men ... they didn’t skip ... they didn’t sit in the cabins ... they didn’t lay them down and covered them as best they could ...
        By the will of fate and in business, I had to communicate closely with many Kiev graduates ... no complaints ... only good memories ... with many I still maintain warm, friendly relations ...
        all commissars with a HOLIDAY !!!
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 11 September 2020 11: 38 New
          -1
          Quote: kepmor
          good officers were prepared by the Kiev political for the fleet ...

          sample of the 70s, yes, there were real political officers, and among the kvumparians of the 80s, real ones were a rarity. Although Lviv agitators were even worse!
          1. novel66
            novel66 11 September 2020 11: 43 New
            -3
            and I know anecdote about political officers lol
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 11 September 2020 11: 48 New
              -3
              If you please, sir!
              hi
              1. novel66
                novel66 11 September 2020 12: 09 New
                -4
                and then! of course I'm naughty
                1. Grandfather
                  Grandfather 11 September 2020 13: 20 New
                  0
                  we have a political officer, he came to the unit once a week, asking “are there any complaints?” Which of the soldiers will complain, and in front of everyone? left happy, the job was done ... well, that was the "commissar".
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 11 September 2020 13: 21 New
                    -3
                    well, ordinary ... like everyone else
        2. Galleon
          Galleon 11 September 2020 15: 11 New
          +2
          We did not have political workers as officers on watch, what else! At one time they were on duty on the ship, but the political commander decided to shield them from this difficult lot, because His officers were "heavily loaded", and they began to intercede instead of the foremen as the mess hall attendants. And although the others had more duty, but as a bonus, I once, being an elder and a ship attendant, with great pleasure tore off the captain of the 3rd rank - the canteen duty officer - for the mess in the galley. Eh, youth ...! good soldier
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 11 September 2020 18: 46 New
      +1
      Politicians have never had any Day. They celebrated only their "branch" holidays - the Day of the Airborne Forces, the Day of the BTV, the Day of the WWF and, of course, all of them - the Day of the Soviet Army. And this is some kind of remake.
  3. apro
    apro 11 September 2020 10: 10 New
    -1
    Why educate? If fully formed individuals come to the army? They don’t educate in the family? They don’t educate in school? ...
    It is clear that the Bolsheviks needed a commissar in the civil war, but now there is a little different. There is no ideology in the state, and it is not established. Everything on a material basis.
    1. matross
      matross 11 September 2020 10: 27 New
      0
      Quote: apro
      now it is somewhat different.

      Exactly. Other. To ask commanders and officers with endless IWR logs, memos, familiarization sheets, IGO commissions, protocols, APPG on violations and non-combat losses, evenings of unanswered questions, reporting incidents, combat reports, home visits, etc. etc.
      Happy holiday!...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 September 2020 10: 43 New
        0
        Quote: matRoss
        evenings of unanswered questions, reporting incidents, war sheets, home visits, etc. etc.

        Yeah, Komsomol, party, trade union meetings, wall newspapers, Lenin's readings and almost every day political information and individual conversations. As you remember, goosebumps.
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 11 September 2020 13: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: matRoss
        Quote: apro
        now it is somewhat different.

        Exactly. Other. To ask commanders and officers with endless IWR logs, memos, familiarization sheets, IGO commissions, protocols, APPG on violations and non-combat losses, evenings of unanswered questions, reporting incidents, combat reports, home visits, etc. etc.
        Happy holiday!...

        my wife in a techie is now more busy with this than work ...
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 11 September 2020 11: 51 New
      0
      Many individuals are not stable in their worldview until old age. For additional stability, such unconscious citizens must be constantly pumped up with propaganda and the risk of punishment must be created. For example, during the Second World War, the risk for unconscious fighters is the transfer of their case to SMERSH.
      1. apro
        apro 11 September 2020 13: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        For example, during the Second World War,

        There is no USSR today. and wars today are going differently. and the personnel are formed and motivated differently.
  4. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 11 September 2020 10: 11 New
    +7
    Now the political officers have returned to the Ministry of Defense !!! You can't do without us))) Thanks to the VO editorial staff for your congratulations !!!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 September 2020 10: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      You can't do without us

      That's for sure, at least one person appeared on which you can take your soul away.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 11 September 2020 11: 05 New
        +5
        “Oh, kamandir-d. Urak! A lot of work, little soldering. And the politician is good! How are you sleeping, how are you eating? Mom got sick - go on vacation! " Many people can laugh at political politicians, but as soon as they disappeared, such a mess began. Remember 1991-1993 in the Armed Forces, that's when the army crap bloomed with magnificent light.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 11 September 2020 10: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      Now the political officers have returned to the Ministry of Defense !!!

      And where are they prepared?
      The commanders in charge are so-so ... The schools do not give sufficient knowledge for this.

      But Shoigu promised. Immediately after his appointment. But apparently, I got carried away with modeling the shape and design of stripes, and forgot about such trifles ...
      1. rich
        rich 11 September 2020 15: 08 New
        +2
        The commanders are so-so

        And what about the dispossessed exiles?
        I recall an episode from the film "Zuleikha Opens Her Eyes", where Zuleikha's son had to flee from exile and change his surname to get an education.
        And why am I ?. And the fact that this is a lie.
        In the 20s, my family was "decossacized" and exiled to an exile settlement. The eldest son of my great-grandmother, Uncle Vasya, graduated from school there and freely entered the pedagogical college. And after graduating he worked as a school teacher. Then he was drafted into the Army, and after an urgent one decided to stay in the Red Army. Upon recertification, he was sent to study at the Vladivostok Infantry School, from which he returned with the rank of junior political leader. Participated in the Finnish war, from the first day in the Second World War, defended Stalingrad. Died 23.09.1943/279/XNUMX in the battle for the Khitrovka farm of the Zaporozhye region of the Ukrainian SSR by the commissar of the regiment of the XNUMXth SD with the rank of Art. battalion commissar
        From his last letter to his great-grandmother: - "Mom, we are advancing with might and main, there are rumors that we will soon receive epaulettes. I will definitely send a card right away" ...... A funeral came instead
    3. Doliva63
      Doliva63 11 September 2020 18: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      Now the political officers have returned to the Ministry of Defense !!! You can't do without us))) Thanks to the VO editorial staff for your congratulations !!!

      I wonder which school they graduated from?
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 11 September 2020 20: 27 New
        +3
        Novosibirsk Higher Military-Political Combined Arms. 60th anniversary of the Great October Revolution. Graduation 81 years, 12th company.
        1. matross
          matross 11 September 2020 21: 57 New
          0
          Everything is clear. Respect to mammoths.
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 12 September 2020 21: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
          Novosibirsk Higher Military-Political Combined Arms. 60th anniversary of the Great October Revolution. Graduation 81 years, 12th company.

          Salute, colleague! hi I have a lot of friends and colleagues from your wonderful school. I did not enter it, because the SVVPTAU named after Brezhnev was closer laughing But to consider the Teacher's Day the Day of the Political Politician?! ... As they say in preference - without me. I disagree. And not a single citizen of Novosibirsk, with whom I constantly communicate, sent such congratulations. respectfully hi
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 11 September 2020 10: 19 New
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    With the holiday of deputies for education!
    ... and they stopped specially training officers of educators in educational institutions.

    And in vain. The education of personnel is also the most important guarantee of good service in peacetime and victory during hostilities.
    And sometimes you just need to talk heart to heart with a soldier, ask, support, give advice or just listen. This alone is sometimes enough to prevent trouble ...
    I really hope that the officers-educators will stay in our army for a long time.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 September 2020 10: 48 New
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      Quote: Doccor18
      And sometimes you just need to talk heart to heart with a soldier, ask, support, give advice or just listen

      And when the soldier speaks out, then you can hold him on the hook by his long tongue. How many times did I say to my friends, "Guys answer only questions, Yes or No."
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 11 September 2020 11: 02 New
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        when the soldier speaks out, then you can hold him on the hook ..

        I was talking about the "Educators", not about the "special workers" ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 September 2020 11: 38 New
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          Quote: Doccor18
          I was talking about "Educators", not about "special workers" ..

          Sorry, but I was talking about the political politicians.
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 11 September 2020 14: 56 New
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        Exactly! To the question: "Well, how are you, sons?", To answer: "We do not live, but serve !!" I remember.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 September 2020 16: 46 New
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          Quote: Galleon
          To the question: "Well, how are you, sons?", To answer: "We do not live, but serve !!"

          "And how do your parents live?" answered "Our parents work for the Soviet fatherland!"
  6. Free wind
    Free wind 11 September 2020 10: 22 New
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    Let's just say that the civilian commissars did not play a special role, or rather often only interfered, since there were people who were not at all military. How can you raise a 20-30 year old contract soldier. To read him a bedtime story about how great everything is with us. Yes, and recruits are still those bandits.
    1. apro
      apro 11 September 2020 10: 27 New
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      Quote: Free Wind
      Let's just say that the civil commissars did not play a special role, or rather often only interfered, since there were people who were not at all military.

      An interesting saying: the commissars helped the personnel to decide in this fratricidal massacre. And the commissar's word sometimes meant more than the commander's word. And after the ideological processing of the enemy troops, they went over to the side of the Reds. And the commissars also helped to prevent the transition to the whites.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 11 September 2020 11: 22 New
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        Read about Chapaev and Furmanov, and how much slander he dashed off in just 3 months, in the end it seemed like they made up. How could one get into the location of the white commissar and conduct political studies there. Yes, here on the site there are monarchists, conduct them political campaigning, maybe persuade them to socialism. laughing
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 September 2020 16: 47 New
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        Quote: apro
        and the commissar's word sometimes meant more than the commander's word.

        But the commander raised the soldier to attack.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 11 September 2020 10: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Free Wind
      How can you raise a 20-30 year old contract soldier.

      Even forty-year-olds can be brought up.
      And it is even more difficult to maintain normal statutory order in the team.
    3. Doccor18
      Doccor18 11 September 2020 11: 13 New
      +2
      I didn't often come across competent political officers. Unfortunately...
      How can you raise a 20-30 year old contract soldier. To read him a bedtime story about how great everything is with us. Yes, and recruits are still those bandits.

      A 30-year-old contract soldier does not need to learn anything special. He himself must train the young recruits.
      And conscripts, and even those of the same age - oh, how much they need education: patriotic, spiritual, intellectual, and to whom it is purely paternal ...
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 11 September 2020 13: 18 New
        +1
        I understand to teach combat work, but when they start scratching about the international situation, about what vile Americans are, they don't let blacks on the bus there, and I must hate them. Yes, I don’t care about them at all, and I wouldn’t let blacks on the bus myself, in Africa it’s still lying under a palm tree all day long. In the 90s, the fashion of converting convicts to Christianity began in the zones. Well, there are some benefits for believers, we don't work on holidays, in short, humanism. There is a full club of people wanting to be baptized. Few were refreshed with holy water, the crosses were taken away from the priest and pushed out by our way, these are the re-educated Christians. The convict told after they drank the bold water.
    4. Serg65
      Serg65 11 September 2020 11: 47 New
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      Quote: Free Wind
      Yes, and recruits are still those bandits.

      Ha! The main weapon of the political officer is language! Who held the Kiev Podol in the early 90s? Kwumpari! And the bandits were crying! If in St. Petersburg everyone was afraid of the Vietnamese, who did not speak at the arrows, but immediately started firing from machine guns, then in Kiev they were afraid of the Kvumpari who did not fire, they talked! A real employee of the conversational genre will first bring you to hysteria, then he will make you cry, and lastly you will not awaken your soul in him !!!
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 11 September 2020 11: 52 New
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        Oh my God, I would still know what a kvumpari is, I don't know such fame.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 11 September 2020 12: 05 New
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          Quote: Free Wind
          still want to know what kvumpari is

          Kvumparii are cadets of the former Kiev Higher Naval Political School ... originally the Kiev Military Ulyshche of the Naval Partyaktiv.
    5. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 11 September 2020 12: 02 New
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      You are wrong, Free Wind (ALEXANDER).

      By the age of 20-30, a person's personality, his character is formed. But a person can learn until old age. And the worldview can also change in adulthood.

      The task of the political officer is not to correct the character, but to give political guidelines, to show the fighter the current political tasks of the state, to substantiate these tasks, to show the people's benefit from the implementation of the guidelines of the leadership, to support the state ideology, to teach the fighter how to behave in certain circumstances, for example, in relation to the local population, to foreigners, to prisoners and much more.

      The lack of understanding of what we are fighting for was a heavy burden for the Russian Imperial Army in the First World War. So, ordinary soldiers, when asked about what the war was about, answered that we were fighting because somewhere far away some "Erts-Hertz pepper" was killed. The zampolit also prevents the risk of disobedience of military personnel, the risk of mutinies, especially from commanders, sabotage, treason and espionage.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 September 2020 10: 25 New
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    The editorial board of Voenniy Obozreniye congratulates the officers-educators - worthy descendants of Soviet commissars and political instructors on their professional holiday.
    Previously, it was more familiar and understandable. And there are teachers in kindergartens. For me, the old positions are more familiar. I don’t know how this holiday is celebrated in the troops, rather than how, but to look from the citizenry)) it would be better if there was no need to make a holiday)).
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 September 2020 10: 51 New
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      Quote: aszzz888
      For me, the old positions are more familiar.

      Probably yes. More familiar and understandable.
  8. Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 11 September 2020 10: 27 New
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    Happy holiday of real commissars and political commissars!
    1. tourist
      tourist 11 September 2020 16: 44 New
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      Thanks for the photo ..! Here is the real political instructor of the battalion, his last photo before his death!
      It is very significant how many of them were killed in the first months of the war ..
  9. dgonni
    dgonni 11 September 2020 11: 04 New
    +1
    Yeah. For the whole service he endured one wisdom. Zampolit is a ballast on iron and on the shore it is a source of headaches and problems.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 11 September 2020 12: 07 New
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      This is only because in the SA of the late period and in the modern RA there is no clear understanding of the place and tasks of the political officer. And because of this, the political officers themselves are trained at random. The zampolites, unfortunately, perceive their work as a sinecure.
      And why is there no understanding of the place and tasks of the political officer? - the class nature of our state, in which the leadership largely consists of representatives of the comprador bourgeoisie and outright swindlers, does not contribute to the interests of the people of Russia being reflected in state policy. And the anti-people essence of our state is reflected especially clearly in its most important, in power blocs.
  10. Livonetc
    Livonetc 11 September 2020 11: 09 New
    +1
    During military service.
    Before the new year, by order of the political officer, we sit with our friend Sashka Eremchenko at the headquarters and complete New Year's gifts for the officers' children.
    The zampolit held an introductory conversation among us.
    I told an incident that happened in Germany.
    German comrades arrived at their unit.
    He decided to feed his colleagues and sent the fighter into the kitchen for sausages.
    The fighter, on the way from the kitchen, threw the sausages into the snow, and then ate them.
    After listening to this wonderful story, I told my friend that soon we would be unambiguously accused of stealing sweets intended for officers' children.
    It must be said that the assembled gifts were further stored for sale. warehouse, where the head was an ordinary conscript, by nationality Gagauz, and an extremely thieving personality.
    For the new year, a part of the complete set was missing in children's gifts.
    The zampolit privately announced the guilty.
    In general, we bought a shortage of our soldiers' money supply.
    However, they did not grieve over that event, but laughed.
    We served in the construction battalion, in civilian objects and enterprises, and we had enough opportunities to earn extra cash
  11. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 11 September 2020 11: 21 New
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    Hmmm ...! When I hear "political officer", I remember "one such" ...! When the Soviet Union "ended" and the bourgeoisie won in Russia, this political political officer (by the way, a Belarusian ...) resigned (or was fired ...) from the army and went to serve the bourgeoisie ... performed raider functions on assignment .. (" freed "the captured enterprises from labor collectives ...). And so successfully that he earned a lot of money and moved to Moscow. So ... whatever you want ... but I will not congratulate the "educational specialists"; I remember that political officer-parasite!
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 11 September 2020 16: 49 New
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      By the way, Lukashenka was also a political officer, and then in 89 he tore up his party card.
  12. ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 11 September 2020 11: 44 New
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    All 33 years of service he considered them parasites on the body of the army (IMHO). Especially infuriated by the characters after the VPA them. Lenin.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 11 September 2020 12: 11 New
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      This is because there was no clear leadership over the political politicians themselves. They themselves were not given the right tasks. And so the posts of political officer became simply sinecura. And any sinecure is a kind of parasitism.
      1. dgonni
        dgonni 11 September 2020 16: 05 New
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        This is because they do not have specific responsibilities and specific responsibilities. And from the fact that they are in fact not needed! The commander is responsible for the moral situation in the unit and for any flight to a loved one. For technique and equipment as well.
        And the question is, why is a political officer needed?
        Get worn out at the polis meeting and share the apartment's cars with boots?
        To write a slander, they were masters, and if they also poked him like a kitten with his nose into his deep ignorance in a particular military matter. That will be scribbling weekly.
        Ballast in one word!
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 11 September 2020 16: 28 New
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          There are situations when the army turns its weapons against the authorities, or surrenders to the enemy without resistance, or demoralized soldiers scatter. This happened in the Russian army and in foreign armies.
          Such situations mean that in the corresponding units or formations there was no control over the moral and political state of the servicemen. Of course, the commanders should watch this. But who will follow the commanders themselves if not political officers? Among the personnel, it is imperative to conduct explanatory and other informational work. It is necessary to signal to the military police and to special departments about groups of dissatisfied, about defeatist sentiments, about the possibility of riots, etc. This is also included in the work of political officers. So let them scribble, if on business.

          In the civil war, in this way, many rebellions in the Red Army were neutralized, and many attempts by some Red Army commanders to go over to the side of the enemy were suppressed. The political officers carried out a huge amount of work during the Second World War. Well, if there are fair claims to the current political politicians, it means that it is necessary to improve their work, and not liquidate them as a class.
          1. dgonni
            dgonni 11 September 2020 18: 50 New
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            In order to follow the commanders there is a special officer! And these guys knew their job well. And nowhere they knew more than political officers.
            And who and on what topic will give a lecture or political information is not important. Not a single crew or unit has yet lost their combat effectiveness due to the lack of a political officer!
            And the fact that it is impossible to lime them?
            Well Duc go to the headquarters of any district or in Moscow to the headquarters of the Air Force Navy and then on the list and see how many and what kind of stars there are and what state. Yes, parquet political officers will never give up such a well-fed life and will foaming at the mouth to prove the necessity of their presence.
  13. Bez 310
    Bez 310 11 September 2020 12: 14 New
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    Yeah...
    I have seen these "experts", it is already disgusting to remember.
    And when someone says that there were good ones among them,
    I always remember the anecdote: "... and let the good ones float in
    good coffins. "
  14. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 11 September 2020 13: 10 New
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    But I was a bad political officer and I don't celebrate this holiday. It prevented the commander from living with a lot of waste, when they stole fuel and lubricants and food, sold soldiers to work, took kickbacks for written bonuses, let soldiers go on vacation for money, recruited contract soldiers for bribes. There was no reason. And so everyone knew. The special officer sat at the same table with them and drank vodka, and the prosecutor's office did not receive frail gifts for the holidays. But I am proud that not a single soldier died in my presence, in the units where I served. And everything else is lyrics. I regret that I spent more than 20 years of my life on this profession and the fight against windmills. The system turned out to be stronger.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 11 September 2020 17: 33 New
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      Well, it was necessary to bring the thieves to clean water, to lay them. Moreover, the special officers were hierarchically lower than the political officers who were directly related to the party apparatus.

      If the thefts are in the shadows, then no one will ever reveal theft. And silence, or as they say in Sicily, "omerta" is a mafia principle. This is how the mafia imposes silence on society. And the frightened society capitulates to the mafia. Always and in all cases, a beam of light must be directed into the shadow. Even if it threatens the danger from the mafia. And in another way, with the "system", with the mafia, you cannot cope.

      It may seem to you that the entire population of Western Europe is informers. But thanks to this snitching, the help of the population to the police is provided. And there are several times less serious crimes in Europe, Canada, Australia than in Russia. For example, in 2002 in Vienna there were 6 murders per year, and we have about 1200 in Altai, although the population of Vienna and the Altai Territory is almost comparable. In 2006, there were 25 thousand murders in Russia, and in the Republic of Korea - 76 murders, despite the fact that the population of Korea is only 4 times smaller than the Russian one.

      By the way, as a lawyer, I noticed long ago that those people who proudly say that they do not lay anyone down when they witness crimes are in fact cowards. Such people are afraid that if they inform law enforcement officers about the crime, the criminals will take revenge on them, and the state will not protect and thank them. But this is a topic for another discussion.
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 11 September 2020 20: 05 New
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        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        Well, it was necessary to bring the thieves to clean water, to lay them.

        The flag is in your hands. Do you see thieves today? Do not be silent, go for it! Start at the very top.
        1. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 12 September 2020 15: 14 New
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          I, vladimirvn (Vladimir Nikolaevich), have not witnessed any crimes committed by civil servants. But I was a witness for other crimes. And I was never afraid to give truthful testimony in the case, even if there was a risk of getting myself from a suspect. And if I am a witness to a crime in the future, then I myself will be the first to turn to law enforcement agencies, so that the criminal is twisted into a ram's horn, or even annihilated altogether.
      2. vindigo
        vindigo 11 September 2020 20: 56 New
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        It is a bit incorrect to compare with Korea. In Korea, the culture is Confucian. Obedience to elders under any circumstances, no freethinking. Then the Japanese taught the local population to order, an ax head off for any crime. And then their own dictators shot the violent. So they bred such a submissive breed. Our boss mocked the workers, they watched him in the evening and beat him. This is unthinkable in Korea. There, obedience is in the blood. But Koreans who came from China or the CIS there give everyone a cough. Fighting, stabbing (firearms prohibited, punished severely)
  15. iouris
    iouris 11 September 2020 13: 17 New
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    What political instructors? Why commissioners? Okay, give them "dusty helmets", let them wear it.
    1. Kuzmitsky
      12 September 2020 19: 55 New
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      Better not to give out dusty helmets to commissars. Otherwise they will bow to them in silence over me and scare me :)
  16. faterdom
    faterdom 11 September 2020 13: 21 New
    +1
    Anyone who can correctly pronounce the name of this holiday without mistakes the next morning after it is truly a specialist!
  17. kulinar
    kulinar 11 September 2020 15: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: 4ekist
    WELL! FOR Political Workers! drinks

    Happy Holidays to all the guys from NVHPOU !!!
  18. tourist
    tourist 11 September 2020 18: 30 New
    +4
    Song of the real commissars !!!! They created such a country, went to all corners of vast Russia and campaigned, built, fought .. We lived!

    But everything was sincere, ideological .. Such a country was profiled
  19. Radikal
    Radikal 11 September 2020 22: 46 New
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    Quote: Free Wind
    I understand to teach combat work, but when they start scratching about the international situation, about what vile Americans are, they don't let blacks on the bus there, and I must hate them. Yes, I don’t care about them at all, and I wouldn’t let blacks on the bus myself, in Africa it’s still lying under a palm tree all day long. In the 90s, the fashion of converting convicts to Christianity began in the zones. Well, there are some benefits for believers, we don't work on holidays, in short, humanism. There is a full club of people wanting to be baptized. Few were refreshed with holy water, the crosses were taken away from the priest and pushed out by our way, these are the re-educated Christians. The convict told after they drank the bold water.

    Probably the political instructor Klochkov would not understand you, and that political instructor from the famous photograph called "Combat", although later turned out not to be a battalion commander, but a political instructor who literally died immediately after the soldiers rose to attack! A few seconds later, the cameraman was wounded filming the attack ... sad
    PS In general, today is another date - another anniversary of the birth of F.E. Dzerzhinsky. Do you need biography details? bully
    It is strange that on the site they talk about anyone, and no one mentioned this date! winked