F-35 fighters of the squadron of "aggressors" will be painted under Russian Su-57

American fighters of the fifth generation F-35 from the 64th training squadron of "aggressors" will receive a paint scheme that repeats the paint scheme of the Russian Su-57 fighters. This was announced by US Air Force veteran and artist Sean Hampton.

Hemton said that 64th Squadron ordered sketches of F-35 fighters in the livery for Russian aircraft. In the process, the artist made several sketches, stating that the main work on painting real aircraft should be expected next year.

This is just a quick overview. Wait for the official presentation next year

- he wrote on Facebook.

For our part, we note that this is the first case of painting an F-35 under Russian fighters. Earlier it was reported about the F-16 fighters from the "aggressor", which received a coloring that repeats the painting scheme of the Russian Su-57 fighters.

The 64th "aggressor" squadron itself is based at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada and depicts "potential enemy" aircraft as part of the US Air Force.

As the commander of the 57th Air Wing of the United States Air Force, General Rob Novotny, said earlier, answering the question of why the American military aviation this kind of imitation was needed:

This is a common practice for an air wing. We train military pilots to get used to the camouflage of other countries' aviation. In other words, so as not to fall into a stupor at the sight of something new for them.

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[figwam]

In other words, so as not to fall into a stupor at the sight of something new for them.

So what happens in combat is visual contact? Then the penguin has no chance.

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

Quote: figvam

So what happens in combat is visual contact?

Nobody rules out this possibility

The Su-57 has built-in armament. In this capacity, a new 30-mm automatic cannon 9A1-4071K is used - a modernized version of the well-known and well-deserved GSh-30-1.

Especially for the F-35 fighter-bomber, General Dynamics created the GAU-22 / A four-barreled 25-mm cannon.

[figwam]

Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok

Nobody rules out this possibility

The fact is that the Americans ruled out this possibility, according to their tactics, the F-35 could release missiles while remaining invisible to the enemy, so maneuverability was not the main thing for him.

[Temples]

Beautiful aircraft SU-57.
It flies as easily as a bird.
Dove of peace.


The mattresses also have a bird - a penguin.

[3danimal]

The penguin is inconspicuous, slippery. Strive to strike from this state. Not a knight, God forgive me

[3danimal]

But it is, at the level of the F-18, and not the MiG-31.

[Prisoner]

This is where they can burn out. Everyone strives to shit and get out of the answer. With a serious opponent, such Wishlist will not work. They are serious lads, ours are not made with a finger and the Chinese are not weakly motivated. If you brew porridge, it will not seem enough to anyone.

[g1washntwn]

Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok

Especially for the F-35 fighter-bomber, General Dynamics created the GAU-22 / A four-barreled 25-mm cannon.

In 2019, it flashed that there were problems with the centering of the gun and its mount (when firing, the mounts cracked and there was a risk of destruction of the airframe elements). Most likely it was repaired, but the fact is that only the F-35A is built-in. The rest only with suspended container guns. The characteristics of the F-35B for dogfighting generally look frankly weaker against the background of competitors, and with the suspended GAU they will be clearly even worse.
Most likely, dogfight is in last place, camouflage is the second thing, and in the top - stealth, which appears everywhere. To simulate close maneuverable combat better than Hornet with the F-16 and old F-5s, nothing was invented.

[RVAPatriot]

Gorgeous, mesmerizing! Thank you for the video

[rocket757]

Whatever the "child" is amused ... still change diapers.

[Reviews]

Interesting. Are they reinsuring themselves (“we hope for the best, we hope for the worst!”) Or do they really think that only the lighter F-57 can imitate the behavior of the heavier Su-35?

[voyaka uh]

It's not that.
This "aggressor squadron" faced a problem. When training battles were played against the F-35, the exercise did not work.
The "aggressors" took off, circled, and in turn they were told from the ground: "you are shot down, you are shot down." When - they did not know.
Therefore, their commander reasonably asked for an F-35 for his pilots. Now a lot of F-35s have been released, and the aggressors will get it too.
But you still need to paint the planes to match the enemies.

[Alex_You]

Handsome in such a ball.

[Simon schempp]

F-35 fighters of the squadron of "aggressors" will be painted under Russian Su-57

In vain are the Merikos tense. While the Su-57s appear in significant numbers (if they appear), the F-35 will already be scrapped.

[Cyril G ...]

Not they are not like that, they do not write off anything - the B-52 is the youngest already 58 years old. The grandchildren are already at the wheel. This is just an awkward flying "Invisible" G ..... F-117, that is, they wrote off in zero ... For it became completely useless ...

[voyaka uh]

Even F-117 - the stealth "grandfather" - still fly and are used during exercises to test new systems.

[Cyril G ...]

3-4 fly at most, the rest has long been removed from the "warm storage". Moreover, the 117th is relatively young by US standards.

[WeAreNumerOne]

Prudently, they train against what has not yet gone into the series, and it is not very clear when it will.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: WeAreNumerOne

and it's not very clear when it will go.

And what do you not understand personally? The car went into production.

[Tank jacket]

Campaign in Syria, Libya and Iraq, they want to bomb a civilian under the guise of the Russian Aerospace Forces ...

[ugol2]

This is automatically a war crime.
Doubly. Firstly, for the peace man, and secondly, for other people's identification marks.
For a trunk and a tribunal for such cases.

[Tank jacket]

In 2016, John Kerry asks the Syrian "opposition" if they have video materials confirming these facts. The response from the Arab side sounded indistinct. "So, I can say that we have a bunch of videos of the terrible victims of these attacks, but they do not help us. We need footage of real aircraft and weapons. There are a lot of such videos on the Internet, but it is impossible to establish its authenticity. Now we will be helped by filming a real aircraft." , - summed up the meeting the US Secretary of State

Is it a coincidence - the repainting of US aircraft in Syria immediately after the words of Secretary of State Kerry about the need to provide video materials?

[Alex_You]

They can bomb under their own guise, and painting aggressors under the planes of a potential enemy (USSR / RF) is an old practice.

[L-39NG]

Sir! The photo shows the plane of the Iranian Air Force F-14A. We must be more careful with material evidence. Be sure, they did not paint under the Iranians!

[Alex_You]

Sir, just in the photo is the plane of the US Air Force squadron aggressor. And right behind him is the A-4 Skyhawk. And Iran's flag is slightly different.

[L-39NG]

A-4s served in Israel and Kuwait, so how, where, and where they got, in the photo, is another thing.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: L-39NG

The photo shows the plane of the Iranian Air Force F-14A. We must be more careful with material evidence. Be sure, they did not paint under the Iranians!

Actually, it was painted under the Iranian Air Force. And this board does not correspond to the Iranian Air Force in terms of marking. The tail number is not printed, etc.
This is what Iranian Tomket looks like

A-4 served in Israel and Kuwait,

They could not get to Iran in any way ..
The vehicle belongs to either VMFT-401 (Marine Corps) or
VFC-111 (Navy). In my opinion, the 401st, and they flew from Miramar, if only sclerosis does not let me down in some of the squadron numbers.

[Cyril G ...]

This Tomket under the Iranian is painted

[tralflot1832]

And then at night our warrant officer SU 57, on a weak, in the color of a sea wave, repainted! The American pilot at the sight of such a miracle, falls into a stupor, and then into a spin, sharply turning into a dive. About the ground hubs and like an ostrich, only the rear plumage is visible! p / s We repainted the ship during the night so that the Germans would not arrest us for our hooliganism in the port.

[L-39NG]

Are you under the influence of "hit-and-miss", "hit-and-run"? How much does an airplane paint weigh? And where are these SU 57s? Once VO was a serious platform.

[Engineer Schukin]

Quote: rocket757

Whatever the "child" is amused ... still change diapers.

Have you developed a similar level of commenting on shoulder straps?

[Perseverance]

They have already produced 550 of them

[teron]

Trophy ones? ..

[bald]

A squadron of "aggressors", or rather a squadron of provocateurs. And how else, if a similar mask show flies over the territory of a foreign state. Again, another setup, with the ensuing consequences.

[megafair]

At the moment when the USA pilots can distinguish the camouflage of our Dryers, nothing will save them, except perhaps by ejection.
So - let them develop a conditioned reflex - do not pull the "eject" handles, we will take them prisoner along with the planes;)

[3danimal]

It's funny. Bravado and hats.
You will also say that air battles will proceed without losses.
Let me remind you that the average plaque “there” is 1,5-2 times more.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: 3danimal

Let me remind you that the average plaque “there” is 1,5-2 times more.

It is not.

[3danimal]

In fact, in fiscal 2017, the average flight time per pilot in the U.S. Air Force was 17,6 hours per month, including 16,4 hours per month for fighter pilots, 17,6 hours per month for military transport pilots, and 19,4 hours a month - for bomber pilots.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3114161.html

The raid plan for the 2018 academic year has been fully implemented; the total raid has increased by more than 2017 6 hours compared to the 000 year. The average flight time for a pilot was more than 100 hours, for a young pilot - a graduate of 2017 year more than 120 hours.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3441290.html

I did not find more recent data. But even with the growth dynamics preserved, my comparison is correct.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: 3danimal

But even with the growth dynamics preserved, my comparison is correct.

Not. First of all, even plaque is counted differently between them and us. They have everything from starting the engine to turning it off. We have from the start of the run to touch. Secondly, in the last year, infa broke through that a number of squadrons of the ILC had less than 100 hours of flight time. Yes, and for the Europeans there were questions that they cheated taking into account.

[3danimal]

Secondly, in the last year, infa broke through that a number of squadrons of the ILC had less than 100 hours of flight time.

Look: I was not too lazy and found you data, you are only offering rumors. In addition, I have provided data on the Air Force.
And could you throw off information about the methods of calculating flight hours?
Summing up: while it looks like you are trying to "retouch" not very "comfortable" reality.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: 3danimal

you are only offering rumors.

Rumors don't come from anywhere
From a conversation with one friend, flew to the Air Force.

- We counted the flight hours every minute from the start of the run to the end of the run.
- The Americans are counting down the "opening-closing" of the cockpit canopy.
The length of taxiways, trunk lines and taxiing schemes at all points (airfields) are different (this is me "for the lights"). It happens from the preliminary to the executive start immediately taxied, and sometimes you stand "very thoughtful", thresh with engines, you miss the incoming ones. They have 5-10 minutes more for each flight, but this is for a start ...

- but for example, I know for sure that the French figures are extremely overstated. They have such problems with maintenance that mom don't cry. I don’t know about fighters, but helicopter pilots, for example, have about 40 percent of the sides just faulty. And they consider the raid very strange - they take only the most flown crews, the pilots who do not fly are generally deleted from the list, and from this they make an office. statistics. So not everything is chocolate too.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=276064 здесь интервью пилота Су-35/27

In addition, I have provided data on the Air Force.

According to ours, I already know the situation from communication. Air Force tactical aircraft fly significantly more than naval tactics

Quote: 3danimal

To summarize: while it looks like you are trying to "retouch" not very comfortable reality.

It's not just the information about the decline of the Western Air Force that you really dislike.
I read an interview with a Jewish squadron commander, he writes I fly once a week. This is 52 flights per year. On time well from 1 to 3 hours. Total flight time from 52 hours to 156 hours. Hardly more. The officialdom pours into our ears about 300 hours of flight. I have not seen their KULP - I have ours. I represent the essence. I hope you are smart enough not to compare the ability to own an airplane of a military pilot flying in his arms with an annual flight time of 100 hours and a brand new paksovoy with a flight time of 300 hours. I suppose you heard what Direct Fashion is.

[3danimal]

Rumors don't come from anywhere

Cast in granite
OBS as a proof ...

I read an interview with a Jewish squadron commander, he writes I fly once a week.

I gave data on the US Air Force (the most flying, which are planning to shoot down here in batches without loss).
Do you have other data? Then bring them (interviews with pilots sharing ... rumors about foreign colleagues - not comme il faut)
I repeat, now your arguments are as follows: this state of affairs is wrong, therefore, it is necessary ... to change the interpretation, to turn to rumors, varnishing the reality, for greater mental comfort. Wrong

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: 3danimal

such a state of affairs is wrong, therefore, it is necessary ... to change the interpretation, to turn to rumors, varnishing the reality, for greater mental comfort.

You are doing this again. For it is clear that the USA will not be compared with us with aviation pips. The equalizer eliminates all chances.

the most flying,

Israeli Air Force.

interviews with pilots sharing ... rumors about foreign colleagues - not comme il faut

They are at least interested in collecting information about the enemy .. Will you also argue about the procedure for organizing sorties and accounting for raids? Out of principle?

Cast in granite good laughing
OBS as a proof ...

Have you decided to show your inadequacy? All intelligence services in the world are just studying rumors and are engaged ...

[3danimal]

All intelligence services in the world are just studying rumors and are engaged ...

I have provided and compared the official data. You started trying to argue.

For it is clear that the USA will not be compared with us with aviation pips. The equalizer eliminates all chances.

In neutral territory, anything can happen. And the equalizer works in both directions, forcing them not to wave them unless absolutely necessary.
I recall a fragment of the film "Only old men go to battle", with a morally broken pilot: "We were told, a German coward, will always turn away from the front, but" mine "- not turned away." I would like to avoid such stories.

[Igar]

The F-35, like the F-22, is not painted ... They have a special coating, which in the USA is called "radio-absorbing"

[3danimal]

So what's wrong with the name of the cover?

[123456789]

This "aggressor squadron" faced a problem. When training battles were played against the F-35, the exercise did not work.
The "aggressors" took off, circled, and in turn they were told from the ground: "you are shot down, you are shot down." When - they did not know.

Treat this as an option in the performance characteristics:
Stealth (stealth) yes / no
Super maneuverability yes / no
Underline whatever applicable

Quote: Perseverance

They have already produced 550 of them

Whoever completes the rearmament first is the one who starts the war

[Mimino]

Cool. And if ours suddenly repaint the DRYERS? Think how it will puzzle the ovs! You will also have to repaint ...

[prior]

Best livery for the F-35, rainbow. Its, rear-wheel drive, will be seen from afar.

[123456789]

Quote: voyaka uh

This "aggressor squadron" faced a problem. When training battles were played against the F-35, the exercise did not work.
The "aggressors" took off, circled, and in turn they were told from the ground: "you are shot down, you are shot down." When - they did not know.

Low-level flight with terrain bending nullifies the capabilities of stealth technology and equalizes AFAR = OLS