An upgraded version of the Shturm-S anti-tank system was tested in Ukraine

A modernized version of the Shturm-S self-propelled anti-tank missile system, which received a Ukrainian missile and guidance system, was tested in Ukraine. Reported by Defense Express.

It is noted that during the tests, the complex used the telemetric version of the rocket to analyze the operating parameters. Fire tests of the missile with a warhead will take place later.

The Ministry of Defense has made a bet on the creation of weapons with maximum consideration of real combat experience, existing and prospective threats on the battlefield and really necessary for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

- said Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksandr Mironyuk.

According to the developers, the upgraded complex received "an increased firing range and the ability to conduct hostilities in any weather conditions and time of day."

It is reported that the Shturm-S combat vehicle is equipped with the RK-9V Barrier-V guided missiles developed at the Luch design bureau, instead of the standard 114M2 ATGM, with a laser beam guidance system. The declared firing range of Ukrainian missiles is 6 kilometers.

Also, on the upgraded version, a round-the-clock optoelectronic system OPSN-I is used for target detection and missile guidance. The ball of the OPSN-I system is installed in the front of the vehicle and in the stowed position is closed by an armored flap, which leans back before firing.

The OPSN-I product, as stated, provides a target detection range of up to 14,5 kilometers, and from 6 kilometers it allows you to accurately identify the target.

In addition, the modernized version of the Shturm-S complex has laser radiation indicators and a system for setting up an aerosol curtain.

Comments

[Trapp1st]

Another grenade from the monkey.

[TermNachTer]

The grenade is highly questionable. How did you increase the firing range? Just don't talk about the new fuel - I won't believe it))))

[Lesorub]

An upgraded version of the Shturm-S anti-tank system was tested in Ukraine

The range has increased by 1000m from the standard ammunition, nothing is said about the thermal imager.

[Holgerton]

The range increased by 2000 meters, because the base 9M114 had it at ~ 4000 meters.
Unless your sofa thinks that Russia, a generous soul, has been supplying them with the 9M120 Attack all this time, and in general the RK-2V is a helicopter ATGM, it has a base range of 7,5 km.
Regarding the TPV channel, it is mentioned about the OPSN-I, here is a thermal imager for you. It is hardly possible to recognize targets at 6 km without a thermal imager.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Holgerton

The range increased by 2000 meters, because the base 9M114 had it at ~ 4000 meters.

In fact, 5000 has always been

Quote: Holgerton

It is hardly possible to recognize targets at 6 km without a thermal imager.

With a thermal imager too.

[Holgerton]

In fact, 5000 has always been

In fact, 5000 meters was announced for the 9K113 helicopter-based Shturm-V complex.
I will not argue, nominally and 9K114 "Shturm-S" has a launch range of 5000 meters, since it uses the same 9M114, but in practice it is believed that due to the launch conditions, the range is reduced to ~ 4000-4500 meters, both in aerodynamics and due to interference with the radio channel.

With a thermal imager too.

For some reason, at least in reality, software-based recognition based on range, area, IR intensity, etc. is usually used. The error still remains, but there is usually a gunner-operator to correct it.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Holgerton

In fact, 5000 meters was declared

... for SPTRK 9P149 "Shturm-S"
Officially.

Quote: Holgerton

but in practice it is believed that due to the launch conditions, the range is reduced to ~ 4000-4500 meters

Are "considered" Ukrainian Military Experts?

No, "launch conditions" cannot influence the range of 114 missiles. Generally.

Quote: Holgerton

For something at least real

It's just not real. The usual advertising murzilka.

[Holgerton]

laughing laughing laughing laughing
Are "considered" Ukrainian Military Experts?

No, "launch conditions" cannot influence the range of 114 missiles. Generally.

Oh, how everything is running ...
How to get rid of paraphase noise, air resistance, pressure and humidity at sea level, dear?)))
For ukroekspertov I will not speak, but since officially, be merciful to cite as an example a gunner who fired further than 3500 m on "Shturm-S", even if even during exercises, I will immediately take my words back. In my memory, only the factory crew of KBM did this at their training grounds.
Something tells me that already at the turn of ~ 4000 m, a repetition of the sad situation with tank biathlon will begin, because the flight range of the 9M114 missile family has a tangible dependence on the external environment, due to its supersonic nature, coupled with radio command guidance.
Have you ever wondered why the gloomy Soviet genius was unable to implement shooting in motion for "Shturm-S"? Due to the generated EMI.

It's just not real. The usual advertising murzilka.

Believe it or not, Western TPV matrices work wonders, and this is achieved by increasing the resolution and filtering noise. On "Shvab" with 480r light did not converge like a wedge.
Or are you one of those for whom AFAR (the same EM waves, but of a different frequency) is also a "regular advertising murzilka"?)

[Lopatov]

Quote: Holgerton

Oh, how everything is running ...
How to get rid of paraphase noise, air resistance, pressure and humidity at sea level, dear?)))

Oh, how everything is running ...
The range of use of such missiles is limited by the distance at which the optical coordinator is able to determine with sufficient accuracy the deviation of the headlamp from the line of sight.
Why your pseudoscientific delirium showed only one thing - you stupidly do not understand the essence.

Quote: Holgerton

be merciful to cite as an example a gunner who fired further than 3500 m on "Shturm-S",

5200. Platoon leader OPTadn 19 MSD near Pionersky in winter 1999-2000

Quote: Holgerton

Something tells me that already at the turn of ~ 4000 m, a repetition of the sad situation with tank biathlon will begin, because the flight range of the 9M114 missile family has a tangible dependence on the external environment, due to its supersonic nature, coupled with radio command guidance.

Blah blah blah...
You just have to figure out how the speed of the rocket can influence the optical coordinator. Probably "redshift"

The question for filling is what kind of a cylinder with gratings at the ends on the launcher is it? And why on "Sturm" 4 batteries?

Quote: Holgerton

Or are you one of those for whom AFAR (the same EM waves, but of a different frequency) is also a "regular advertising murzilka"?)

Are you one of those for whom "Petrika Filter" is an outstanding scientific discovery?
After all, advertisers will not lie .... Have you personally identified real goals at least once?

[venik]

Quote: Lesorub

The range has increased by 1000m from the standard ammunition, nothing is said about the thermal imager.

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"...The OPSN-I product, as stated, provides a target detection range of up to 14,5 kilometers, and from 6 kilometers it allows you to accurately identify the target..... ".
It's just kind of like thermal imaging channel.

[Asad]

Was it like recently, about symbiosis with a helicopter?

[Jacket in stock]

Why is nobody laughing?
For many years I read here that "Ukraine is truncated", all the smart ones fled. There is no one to work. There is nothing to lead projects. The factories are closed. The equipment was handed over for scrap ... And similar stories.
It turns out that the factories and design bureaus are "alive and well fed".
And there is enough money, and there are people. And they are smart enough and motivated enough. And if you consider that, unlike ours, they are not under sanctions and have access to technologies and components from any manufacturer, then it becomes not at all funny.

[Bessik]

Well, yes, they used to make rockets into space, but now the cheeks of greatness are inflated from the modernization of the Soviet ATGM

[WeAreNumerOne]

And what is the motivation for the Russians to fight in the Donbas?

[dragy52rus]

so they didn’t stop making, they are going for export. what did they do so new?
single copies with incomprehensible performance characteristics in any garage can be made. that's when the series goes then and you can talk.

[svp67]

Quote: Jacket in stock

It turns out that the factories and design bureaus are "alive and well fed".

Can you clarify WHAT plants and design bureaus?
Earlier, an all-weather radar sight for the Chrysanthemum anti-tank missile system, the "world" apparatus, was produced in Ukraine. Why wasn't it installed on this modernized complex? Thoughts are ...
In this version of the ATGM, an adaptation is made of what Ukraine can produce itself in the slightest degree, therefore the rejection of the supersonic "Attack" and the adaptation of the helicopter complex. Here are just the "ball" of the sight, in my opinion, they placed a little low, but you could have raised and higher and installed on the roof, which would have been much better in all respects

[Pavel57]

It's not funny, the rocket is quite for the battlefield, boats, and even for the Brazilian Tucano.

[venik]

Quote: Jacket in stock

It turns out that the factories and design bureaus are "alive and well fed".
And there is enough money, and there are people.

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Do you draw this conclusion on the basis of a rocket developed 15 years ago? Or opitiko-electronic station for you - "epoch-making masterpiece"Invention? Lord, yes, in Russia, these sighting OEPs are mass-produced, and dozens of types! But for the" advanced "(it is not clear only - where?) and" fattening "Ukrainian defense industry: it looks like yes - an" epic masterpiece "invention! :
"....Optical sighting station OPSN-I, developed by the State Enterprise "Izyum Instrument-Making Plant", which is part of the State Corporation "Ukroboronprom", first and only in Ukraine of this class....... "(http://www.wing.com.ua/content/view/21157/82/)

[Lopatov]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Why is nobody laughing?

Well, yes, you have to be sad. If such "modernization" becomes a great achievement.

[Kerensky]

You can immediately see the modernization in the photo - the cover is fastened with a shkertik, and not just tied with a string!

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kerensky

You can immediately see the modernization in the photo - the cover is fastened with a shkertik, and not just tied with a string!

This rope is generally interesting.
Apparently, the lid is too heavy, and therefore they do not lift it in the "marching" position when moving, so they tied it so that it would not jump on the bumps.

There are generally funny guys gathered. They put a box at the rear of the car. Exactly to the place where one of the crew members should stand when loading

In short, everything is as usual, in Ukrainian. Through the opposite

[Reserve buildbat]

"Sharik" OPSN-And it seems to me rather low set. It seems that such things are usually raised higher. And the rope supporting the armored damper looks very touching

[svp67]

Quote: Stroibat stock

"Sharik" OPSN-And it seems to me rather low set.

A similar opinion

[Lopatov]

Quote: Stroibat stock

"Sharik" OPSN-And it seems to me rather low installed

Minimal design changes.
Even the inconvenient mechanism for opening the flap / lowering the antenna was left. Which does not allow you to put an antenna of a standard length - it's too hard to lift

[farm2009]

What is the point of such modernization? The whole feature of the assault is in his nimble missiles, 9M114 - 350-400 m / s, 9M120 Attack 550 m / s. RK-2V "Barrier-V" 240 m / s and why is it so needed?

[svp67]

Quote: farm2009

What is the point of such modernization?

And here, as in that song: "I blinded him from what was ..."

[dragy52rus]

foreign defense has made a bet on the creation of weapons with maximum consideration of real combat experience, existing and future threats on the battlefield and really necessary for the Armed Forces of Ukraine
what kind of real fighting?

PS: Chrysanthemum has a radar in the kit. The exercises showed that the laser does not work when the dust is on the battlefield.

[Nikolaevich I]

Here is the modernization ... the 9M114 rocket was removed "vobche" and the "ukrovaflyu" was made available! What is left of the former "Shturm-S"? "Cart" ... that is, the chassis! And now, for example, the Russian modernization of "Shturm"! Ground ATGM "Shturm-SM" ... besides the 9M114 missile, it can use the 9M120 missile, including the 9M120-1 with a combined (radio command + "laser-beam") guidance system and a range of up to 6 km ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Ground ATGM "Shturm-SM"

There is minimal modernization, therefore only radio command. In fact, only a thermal imager was added and the ability to select missiles in the "drum"

A sight with a laser beam can be installed only on Shturm-SME by order, "can be installed"

[Nikolaevich I]

"E" to "Sturm-SM" stuck, perhaps, "after"! Because when I first "heard" about the "Shturm-SM" ATGM, then a missile from the "Shturm / Attack" complex with a combined guidance system was also mentioned! That is, the developers, it turns out, offered anti-tank systems and missiles for "every" taste, but military officials could, as is often the case with us, choose "cheaper"! But this does not detract from the fact that the Russian "Shturm-SM" can, at least in principle, fire both 9M114 missiles and 9M120 missiles, incl. 9M120-1 with a laser guidance system ...!
The second major innovation in the anti-tank complex "Sturm-SM" was the updated missile control equipment. To use the missile system on various platforms, the ammunition received an additional control system. The 9М120-1 Attack missile uses radio-command and laser-beam control systems, depending on the situation.

All units of the Shturm-SM self-propelled anti-tank missile system are mounted on the chassis of the MT-LB multipurpose tracked vehicle. In place of the vehicle commander, a set of equipment is installed, which is necessary to control all systems. On the frontal part of the base vehicle, in front of the commander's workplace, a rotary unit with optical-electronic equipment is installed, designed to search for targets and guide missiles. The equipment for working with missiles is installed in the cargo compartment of the MT-LB vehicle. Automation is responsible for supplying ammunition to the launcher and raising the latter to a firing position. The launcher has mounts for the missile's transport and launch container. To supply ammunition, a drum with 12 cells is used for transport and launch containers with missiles. According to official information, the upgraded ATGM Shturm-SM is capable of destroying various targets at ranges up to 6 km. The 9M120-1 guided missile is equipped with a solid-propellant engine and is capable of flying at a speed of about 400 m / s. The rocket is controlled in flight by radio channel or using a laser-beam system... Receivers of radio and laser radiation are located in the tail of the rocket.

When creating a new rocket, the need to effectively destroy various types of targets was taken into account. For this reason, the “Attack” guided missile of a new modification can be equipped with three types of combat units. A tandem cumulative warhead is designed to destroy enemy armored vehicles; for the defeat of manpower is proposed to use fragmentation; and for attacking low-speed low-altitude air targets, a core warhead was created.

From their predecessors ATGM "Sturm-SM" took over a few positive features. The original automatic supply of ammunition to the launcher in combination with the high speed of the missile allows an experienced gunner to make up to 3-4 launches per minute. The use of a narrow radio beam control provides high noise immunity of the complex. The semi-automatic guidance system allows the operator of the complex to control the rocket until it hits the target, although it imposes certain restrictions on the use of the system in real combat conditions.

The use of old developments in combination with new ideas allowed the Kolomna designers to ensure the superiority of the Shturm-SM ATGM over the previous systems of the family. Through the application dual missile control system and thanks to the use of an optoelectronic observation and guidance system greater flexibility of application is achieved in comparison with previous "Assaults". In addition, it provides the ability to use not only on a self-propelled land chassis, but also on other platforms.

Anti-tank missile system "Sturm-SM" has not yet been adopted. Nevertheless, it has already passed state tests for quite a long time and, therefore, is likely to be put into service as soon as possible.

Based on materials from sites: Topwar.ru

[Lopatov]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

"E" to "Shturm-SM" stuck, perhaps, "after"

Right. After the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation did not consider it necessary to spend a lot of money on the modernization of the 9P149.
Therefore, laser beam is only for export, and on a separate request.
Go to their website and compare https://www.kbm.ru/ru/production/ptrk/

[abc_alex]

Especially touching are the two ropes tied to the armored flap :) In Kolomna, at one time, people dried a lot of their brains, constructing the protection of the guidance system in the stowed state. It turns out that you can simply tie two ropes to the lid. He got out of the car, tied a string to a carnation. Cheap and cheerful. And if you attach the latch, then it will not open on the road.
In fact, a range above 5 km for a ground-based ATGM is a controversial thing. 5 km - horizon. And it is practically impossible to visually detect a target at a greater distance. Unless, of course, from the top of a dune in the desert. For example, in theory, the 9M123 rocket of the Chrysanthemum complex flies 7-8 km. But it is simply impossible to aim it at a target at such a distance. They shot her from a helicopter at 7-8 km, and according to rumors, she will be included in the Mi-28NM armament kit.