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Denis Pushilin explained the cancellation of his order to destroy the Ukrainian fortifications near Horlivka

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Details appeared regarding the final decision of the head of the DPR on the Ukrainian fortifications in the area of ​​the village of Shumy near Horlivka. Recall that earlier Denis Pushilin gave an order to destroy the fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, created after the conclusion of the armistice agreements, while at least twice the execution time of the order was shifted.


Now the information has been confirmed that Denis Pushilin withdrew the previously given order, which was part of the ultimatum announced to Kiev. This ultimatum sounded as follows: The people's militia of the DPR will destroy the Ukrainian fortifications in the area of ​​the village of Shumy, if the Ukrainian side does not dismantle them by the designated date.

The cancellation of the order by the head of the Donetsk People's Republic is associated with the fact that today a joint inspection is scheduled by representatives of the DPR and Kiev in the JCCC under the OSCE observation mission. Earlier, such a proposal was made by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the DPR Natalia Nikonorova, and this proposal was ultimately supported both in the OSCE and in Kiev.

At 14:00 on September 10 (today) a group of inspectors will inspect the territory in the area of ​​the village of Shumy and find out whether the Ukrainian security forces dismantled the very fortifications, because of which Denis Pushilin issued an ultimatum.

The head of the DPR separately explained his decision:

Due to the fact that we finally got the Ukrainian side to conduct a joint inspection of Ukrainian positions, we decided to cancel the order to eliminate illegal fortifications of Ukrainian armed formations in the area of ​​the Shumy settlement.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 September 2020 09: 20 New
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    I don’t even know how to comment ... I seem to have achieved what I wanted, but the sediment ...
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 10 September 2020 09: 27 New
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      A game of good and bad cop.
      It worked.
      And the sediment, due to the continuing occupation of significant territories of the DPR and LPR by the putschist regime of Ukraine.
      No prospects in sight.
      It's always depressing.
    2. Avior
      Avior 10 September 2020 09: 27 New
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      Did he seek an inspection? He tried to get the fortifications to be demolished and to withdraw the troops from there, threatening to fire them.
      Nothing was demolished, the troops did not withdraw, and they did not fire.
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 September 2020 09: 29 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I don’t even know how to comment ... I seem to have achieved what I wanted, but the sediment ...

      What, sediment? Let these sediments be present:

      Everyone who could come to us, from the OSCE to the staff officers. The fighters have already been taken out of these strongholds, the trenches are already being dug. Of course, it's unpleasant. It turns out that the separatists are already commanding us ...


      For one thing, after the OSCE inspection it will finally become clear whether this message from the "Strana.UA" resource was true ...
      1. Nestor
        Nestor 10 September 2020 09: 56 New
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        Strana.ua is a biased resource more than once or twice seen in "fake-making" (the same garbage can as a censor, but with a different "sign" laughing )
        All these statements were needed to put pressure on the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry in order to force them to get in touch at the level of foreign ministers
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 September 2020 10: 11 New
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          Quote: Nestor
          All these statements were needed to put pressure on the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry in order to force them to get in touch at the level of foreign ministers

          And who needed these - pressure on the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry in order to force contact at the level of foreign ministers ?

          After all, Lavrov defiantly avoided from negotiations with your idiot in a khaki embroidered shirt, having flown to Syria ...

          UNLINKED yes
          1. Nestor
            Nestor 10 September 2020 10: 28 New
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            So there was a connection through other channels, Pushilin was "pulled back" laughing
            And it doesn't matter, if only it was quiet
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 10 September 2020 10: 40 New
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              Quote: Nestor
              So there was a connection through other channels

              What channels? Parliamentarians, as in the Second World War, with the proposal of surrender to the Königsberg garrison? belay

              What other "canals-ditches" do you have? the aggressor in the land " ? AND ? belay

              And the screams that you are with Moscow - No no ?
              1. Nestor
                Nestor 10 September 2020 20: 09 New
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                Don't talk nonsense! Ermak, for example, calls Kozak directly
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 11 September 2020 09: 10 New
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                  Quote: Nestor
                  Don't talk nonsense! Ermak, for example, calls Kozak directly

                  So here it is, who handed over the operation to Moscow with "Wagner" what .

                  And the SBU knocked off its feet, in search of a "mole" yes

                  Or Yermak, not the only one such knocking-calling?

                  And again, how viina ? Or war-war, and a report on a schedule?

                  What are you all the same crookedly made, in a rotten understate ...
      2. Avior
        Avior 10 September 2020 10: 14 New
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        Yes, at the same moment when this anonymous message appeared in the Country, a video was posted on the censor from the very positions with journalists and the Ukrainian military, who joke while looking at the clock. Silenus Pushilin with his ultimatum ...
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 10 September 2020 11: 09 New
          +1
          "In the beginning there was a word ..."
          This is from the Bible.
          And according to Pushilinski:
          At first there was a word, then again a word, then again a word ... But they never got to the point ... request
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 September 2020 14: 29 New
          +2
          Additional event data:

          Half an hour before the start, Zelensky canceled a joint inspection with the DPR of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Horlivka

          According to the Ukrainian newspaper "Observer", the joint inspection of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine scheduled for September 14, 00-10 was canceled at the initiative of the President of Ukraine, the correspondent of "Donbass Segodnya" reports.
          The Ukrainian newspaper refers to its source in the Office of the President of Ukraine and clarifies that the inspection joint with the DPR, OSCE and Ukraine is not just postponed, but canceled. The check for the presence of new positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was to take place near Gorlovka near the village of Shumy.

          Earlier it was reported that the OSCE finally discovered the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Horlivka

          The UAV of the OSCE monitoring mission confirmed the information of the DPR intelligence, the correspondent of "Donbass Segodnya" reports with reference to the OSCE.



          "On September XNUMX, five hundred and fifty meters from the village of Noise, the OSCE UAV first discovered the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine", - the report says.

          Also, international observers noted that these positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were absent on the maps of December 21, 2019.
          1. Avior
            Avior 10 September 2020 15: 34 New
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            the ceasefire was declared in the summer of 2020, and not in December 2019, the OSCE drones did not see any position on September 2
            ... Based on the analysis of aerial observation data for the period from December 21, 2019 to September 2, 2020 in the area of ​​N. Shumy (government-controlled, 41 km north of Donetsk), a 25-meter extension of the trench has been identified at the existing positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (visible in the images before July 5, 2020). Since July 5, 2020, no changes have been recorded in this area.


            https://www.osce.org/files/2020-09-05_Daily%20Report_RUS.pdf
            Is there a link to the OSCE report about which you wrote in your post? Can you see her?
            I did not find it on the OSCE website.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 10 September 2020 15: 45 New
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              Quote: Avior
              the ceasefire was declared in the summer of 2020, and not in December 2019, the OSCE drones did not see any position on September 2

              Do you read the comments? September 2, "did not see" No. .
              And on September 6, "suddenly the darkness dissipated and beheld" ...
              Quote: Avior
              Is there a link to the OSCE report about which you wrote in your post? Can you see her?
              I did not find it on the OSCE website.


              Seek and find.
              1. Avior
                Avior 10 September 2020 16: 30 New
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                On the report of September 5, where it is indicated that nothing new was discovered until September 2, I gave a link.
                Therefore, I wonder how on September 6 the new was discovered and what kind of document it is in which it is written.
                I expect from you a link to it.
          2. Avior
            Avior 10 September 2020 15: 44 New
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            It is not good to be misled.
            The inspection is canceled due to the fact that the DPR and the Russian Federation abandoned the previously agreed conditions of the inspection and put forward new conditions, in particular, to change the inspection site, add new points, about which Kravchuk wrote a letter to the OSCE.
            Is this an inspection or a reconnaissance group? smile
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 10 September 2020 15: 50 New
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              Quote: Avior
              It is not good to be misled.
              The inspection is canceled due to the fact that the DPR and the Russian Federation abandoned the previously agreed conditions of the inspection and put forward new conditions, in particular, to change the inspection site, add new points, about which Kravchuk wrote a letter to the OSCE.
              Is this an inspection or a reconnaissance group?


              Why are you so excited? Have you re-read the Ukronazi press?

              Follow the link: https://topwar.ru/174975-oni-hoteli-ustroit-shou-kravchuk-zajavil-ob-otmene-sovmestnoj-inspekcii-pod-gorlovkoj.html#comment-id-10769327
              , according to her article, in which the old Bandera-senile was given a specific rebuff for his lies about the alleged "additional requirements of the DPR."

              Read.
              1. Avior
                Avior 10 September 2020 16: 43 New
                +1
                I am not used to blindly believing anonymous articles, there is more trust in the primary sources.


                There is the position of Kravchuk, I see it, the position of the other side I do not see. Are there materials confirming that all this is agreed? If there are, I think we'll see them soon.
                An anonymous article written by someone unknown does not exactly apply to them.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 11 September 2020 09: 43 New
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                  There is Kravchuk's position, I see it, I don't see the other side's position ....... but this is not necessary .... the chance for the DPR was missed back in the distant 14th ..... and later in 16th m finally .... then the trick is. On the territory of the Donetsk region, two distinct formations appeared, the DPR and the territories controlled by the junta. ..for 6 years everyone has adapted in different ways. on the controlled junta poorly poor but do not riot. therefore it suits them. in the DPR, all the rules, trade with the Russian Federation brings significant income to the budget and there is no need to share this income with Kiev, so this state is still pretty and not bad .... I repeat .. the chance was missed. and at the moment if all the same the junta will be kicked out of Donbass, then the poor population will have to adjust to their jurisprudence .... and this is a costly and troublesome business ... and most importantly .. enough blood. it's time for a peaceful track ... so I understand pushilin, although in the DPR he was given a rattle of chepushilin ... well, in short, like this
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 11 September 2020 10: 07 New
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                    The problem is that the level of salaries in the DPR is several times worse than in the rest of the Donetsk region, the word of norms is clearly inapplicable to this.
                    In the Donetsk region, the average salary is about 36000 rubles (more than 13000 thousand hryvnias) and it is steadily and noticeably growing all the time.
                    https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/doneckaya/
                    For the DPR, these are inconceivably high numbers.
                    Even the minimum wage in the Donetsk region is 13500 rubles, 5000 hryvnias, and it is also constantly growing, this is a very high salary for the DPR.
                    Despite the fact that earlier it was Donetsk that was the second city in Ukraine in terms of income after Kiev.
                    1. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 11 September 2020 10: 21 New
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                      In the Donetsk region, the average salary is about 36000 rubles ...... why lie .... who has such a salary .... in the office of an accountant ??? maybe at a bookmaker ....... I recently called up with a colleague from Donetsk. Duc here. his salary is 16 rubles. plus quarterly premiums and plus an annual premium, enough for everything, energy prices did not rise. to the communal apartment too. products are two and three times cheaper than in Crimea, .... in short ... if everything is so wonderful there, how did the video about "sell a dog and sweat for communal services" appeared .... that is, the grandmother gets 000 hryvnia and 2300 is spent on everything about everything ..... look Shariy net .... this video is in use .... and you don't have to lie as you get in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, ... lies from start to finish
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 11 September 2020 10: 38 New
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                        I gave you a link to the official data on the average salary. The minimum is also easy to find on the Internet, the same across Ukraine. The fact that your acquaintance gets a little more cleaning lady in Ukraine, and a little less watchman, and this is very high for Donetsk, this is a special case, I will tell you about my friend in Horlivka, who has 8500 thousand rubles as an electrician and that, this is an indicator of what then?
                        Factory salary is much higher than average.
                        compare with salaries at the Akhmetov factories in Donetsk region - in Avdeevka, Mariupol and others, the ruble and hryvnia exchange rate is 2.7.
                        https://m.rabota.ua/company/view/693396
                        But pensions in Ukraine are low, especially for those who retired long ago, this is true.
                      2. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 11 September 2020 11: 43 New
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                        the exchange rate of the ruble and the hryvnia is 2.7 .... really for the hryvnia, no one will give more than 2 rubles .... in any case, in the DPR and in the Crimea., although the hryvnia was not steamed to anyone. I even really forgot about the buck as a bad dream ........ now let's switch to energy sources ... as you mentioned the hryvnia at 2.7 ruble, now the population pays almost 404 grams per kW for electricity to 2, that is, we multiply then this is what we get .... 5.40 rubles, in principle, not far from us. 4.70. but the more the more tangible. on gas we will not. there is simply nothing to compare with. with a communal apartment too (in 404 it's just p). on petrol. here and in the DPR 95th 51 rubles per liter. vna 404 on average 26.50 g, that is, according to the layout 2.7 to the ruble, almost 80 rubles ..... yeah. rich
                      3. Avior
                        Avior 11 September 2020 12: 08 New
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                        I indicated the hryvnia exchange rate to compare the values ​​in rubles. Probably, someone is well welded on the exchange of hryvnia in the DPR and Crimea with such rates.
                        The price of electricity in Ukraine within social norms - 0,9 UAH, over - 1,7
                        That is, 2,4-4,5 hryvnia is cheaper in Ukraine.

                        https://www.prostobank.ua/spravochniki/indikatory_rynka/electric_tariff
                        The price of gasoline 95 in Ukraine for the mass Ukrnafta is 21 UAH, that is, 57 rubles, a little more expensive, but not essential.

                        https://index.minfin.com.ua/markets/fuel/tm/ukrnafta/
                        The most amazing thing is that you don't know anything, as if you live somewhere in Australia and the Internet has been turned off smile
                      4. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 11 September 2020 18: 32 New
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                        You live in Australia and the Internet is turned off ..... okay. roam in your marasmus. I like something on the side of what's going on in the Khuntyarskaya 404 ..... there would be no more blood licking and that's it. and Crimea you never see in your finished 404 .... and that's a fact. and the fact that both the DPR and LPR will not forgive you
  • Tarasios
    Tarasios 10 September 2020 09: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    I don’t even know how to comment ... I seem to have achieved what I wanted, but the sediment ...

    do you seem to lack someone else's blood?
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 10 September 2020 09: 59 New
    +3
    These are diplomatic methods of work. Military diplomacy is like that.
    And we, as Russia, are not interested in slaughter.

    Civil war does not have a clear winner, everyone loses in it. And even if someone says that this is the aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine (with which I do not agree), it is still a civil war in a broader sense, within a single socio-cultural space and previously a single state.
    Less blood - easier to heal wounds and blur boundaries ...
  • Irek
    Irek 10 September 2020 10: 12 New
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    Now we need to restore order on another site.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 10 September 2020 10: 49 New
    -3
    Politics is waiting. Like 404 fulfills bilateral contracts? Once they would have shied away, at once the understanding would have come that it is necessary to do something under which he signed!
  • imrek_ua
    imrek_ua 10 September 2020 14: 38 New
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    Fire! Oh, don't fire, don't fire !!!
    Pizhmak. How to eat zhamshevy tansy. laughing
  • KOPA
    KOPA 10 September 2020 23: 05 New
    -1
    He has grenades of the wrong system))))