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Uralvagonzavod has declassified the dimensions of the T-14 Armata tank

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Uralvagonzavod has declassified the dimensions of the T-14 Armata tank

Uralvagonzavod has declassified dimensions tank T-14, created on the Armata platform. The data on the tank were presented during the Army-2020 military-technical forum, held in the Moscow region.


This is reported by the blog Gur Khan attacks!

Until recently, the dimensions of the T-14 "Armata" tank were not officially presented anywhere, even on the site of the "UVZ" itself, so all the data on the tank were taken from the Internet. However, during the Army-2020 forum, an advertising brochure was circulated at the Uralvagonzavod stand, which for the first time reflected many parameters, including dimensions.

So, according to the data from the UVZ brochure, the length of the T-14 tank with the cannon in front is 10435 mm, the width along the side screens is 3820 mm and the height along the panoramic sight is 3218 mm.


The armament of the tank is a 2 mm 82A1-125M cannon and two 7,62 mm machine guns - one mounted on the turret, and the second coaxial with the cannon. At the same time, the author claims that a coaxial machine gun appeared at the request of the Ministry of Defense for zeroing. Initially, it was not provided.


Also noteworthy is the power of the tank's engine. In the brochure, the specified power is equal to 1500 hp, which provides the tank with a speed of up to 75 km / h. The declared fuel range is 600 km.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 September 2020 08: 54 New
    -16
    Until recently, the dimensions of the T-14 "Armata" tank were not officially presented anywhere ..

    Export contracts on the bow ...
    1. Dude
      Dude 9 September 2020 09: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: Doccor18
      Until recently, the dimensions of the T-14 "Armata" tank were not officially presented anywhere ..

      Export contracts on the bow ...

      And why not?
      Silently envy and modernize your Chariot winked
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 9 September 2020 10: 00 New
        -12
        Quote: Dude
        Silently envy and modernize your Chariot

        Who to envy is still unknown. "Armata" has not met with anyone yet, so let's take a look at the hats and the cons (what are they for?).
        1. Dude
          Dude 9 September 2020 10: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Quote: Dude
          Silently envy and modernize your Chariot

          Who to envy is still unknown. "Armata" has not met with anyone yet, so let's take a look at the hats and the cons (what are they for?).

          Yes, I am far from throwing hats, but, pay attention, how did a certain contingent get burnt from this news? And this cannot but rejoice yes
    2. RealPilot
      RealPilot 9 September 2020 16: 15 New
      -2
      Yes.
      In June, Interfax, referring to a representative of Rostec, reported that Armata had received export passport, and this is already a document in accordance with which the characteristics of export vehicles are determined. It is these characteristics that are provided to foreign customers.
      That is, officially approved information appeared for the promotion of a new tank, this is no longer a secret, but an advertisement ...
  2. BAI
    BAI 9 September 2020 08: 54 New
    +7
    At the same time, the author claims that a coaxial machine gun appeared at the request of the Ministry of Defense for zeroing. Initially, it was not provided.

    MO does not believe in automation. Visualization is safer.
    1. Ascold1901
      Ascold1901 9 September 2020 09: 08 New
      13
      Interesting))) How can a cannon be shot at a machine gun? And with a 7,62 caliber? Maybe someone knows to share.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 9 September 2020 09: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Ascold1901
        Interesting))) How can a cannon be shot at a machine gun? And with a 7,62 caliber? Maybe someone knows to share.


        Do not hurry. This information has not yet been declassified. So far, only the dimensions.
      2. dzvero
        dzvero 9 September 2020 10: 07 New
        14
        One can smile The machine gun acts as a rangefinder. A 7.62x54 bullet can fly for several kilometers, there is enough energy (this is a range in general, not a direct shot!). I saw where the tracer hit, the elevation angle of the machine gun gives the range, entered the data into the gun and forward. Convenient if you don't want to "notify" the enemy by irradiating the rangefinder with a laser. Ballistics, of course, are different, but in this case it is not fundamental. The shell will hit where the bullet hit.
        1. Ascold1901
          Ascold1901 9 September 2020 12: 43 New
          +1
          Thank. Is it Practice or Theory?
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 9 September 2020 13: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Ascold1901
            Thank. Is it Practice or Theory?

            Theory. You don't need to shoot a cannon everywhere; for some purposes, a bullet is enough.
          2. dzvero
            dzvero 9 September 2020 13: 54 New
            +2
            Теория smile and guess how the 7.62mm machine gun will work. Previously, they used 12,7 mm sighting machine guns (for example, the British Chief) - their ballistics up to 1500-2000 m were similar. With 7.62 it won't be that easy, but possible. It is not entirely clear why the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation demanded an alternative to the laser rangefinder at 7.62 and not at 12.7 or 14.5 mm. It will be easier to implement this on large calibers.
    2. kytx
      kytx 9 September 2020 09: 17 New
      +2
      In general, it is strange of course.
      at a distance of a couple of km, for example, shoot a cannon from a machine gun?
      Their ballistics are completely different.
      Although I saw a photo of the 60s or 70s, an artillery gun fixed on the SCS barrel, sort of like to adjust the sight, or something.
      who would explain
      1. Alf
        Alf 9 September 2020 13: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: kytx
        Although I saw a photo of the 60s or 70s, an artillery gun fixed on the SCS barrel, sort of like to adjust the sight, or something.
        who would explain

        These are the so-called "barrel firing", that is, all operations are carried out to load the gun, but after the command Fire, it is not the gun itself that shoots, but the small-caliber gun attached to it (MKO). Previously, the MCO was built into the barrel, but then, for the purpose of simplification, the MCO began to be attached outside the main barrel. The benefit is obvious - ammunition is saved and the barrel is saved.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 9 September 2020 21: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Alf
          Earlier MCO was built into the barrel

          When I served in the army, a liner for a 14mm cartridge was inserted into the barrel of a tank. Ballistics matched the main caliber. To insert the liner and remove it from the barrel when not needed is not a big deal. And I think it's much easier than fencing another barrel outside the tank.
          1. kytx
            kytx 9 September 2020 22: 01 New
            0
            I understand that this is about the conditions of the battle. You can't run with a liner there.
            like attack aircraft of the time of WW2 - aimed with a machine gun and zhahnul from the cannon.
            but there were different distances

            IL2 does not count, he hit point targets badly :)
            although Emelianenko described this
        2. kytx
          kytx 9 September 2020 21: 52 New
          0
          So I understood.
          I wonder how they combine the sks in parallel with the radial line of the gun barrel?
          Or is it like this: like the calculation then ran a small BUM from a carbine.
          the photo was from Vietnam incidentally, the officers are Russian
    3. Alexey from Perm
      Alexey from Perm 9 September 2020 11: 08 New
      +1
      why a laser rangefinder? and a modern MSA, apparently a machine gun is more reliable in battle? they would have "lured" a small catapult for throwing stones ..
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 September 2020 08: 58 New
    +5
    On the T90M, the machine gun in the panorama was replaced with a Kord 12,7mm at the request of the Ministry of Defense.
  4. Ascold1901
    Ascold1901 9 September 2020 09: 00 New
    12
    A wonderful phrase: "However, during the Army-2020 forum, an advertising brochure was distributed at the Uralvagonzavod stand, which for the first time reflected many parameters, including dimensions." The tank stood on the site along with the rest of the equipment))) Walk, look, take pictures. It looks pretty impressive, in photos and videos it does not seem so big. Larger than the current base tank. Outwardly, I liked him. And the concept is correct - a heavily armored hull and an uninhabited tower.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 9 September 2020 09: 20 New
      -38
      Quote: Ascold1901
      Larger than the current base tank.

      Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!
      1. Dude
        Dude 9 September 2020 09: 32 New
        +6
        Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!
        Merkava is also not small, however, this does not prevent it from being one of the best modern tanks. Or can they, but we can’t? wink
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 9 September 2020 09: 35 New
          -39
          So the merkava is also smaller)) The one-eyed grenade launcher will get into Armatur without aiming!
          1. Dude
            Dude 9 September 2020 09: 47 New
            15
            The one-eyed grenade launcher will hit Armatur without aiming!
            May God bless your wolf calf! lol
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 9 September 2020 09: 51 New
              -42
              Call the barn a wolf? Yes, armata does not fit completely into a tank sight from 5 kilometers!
              1. Dude
                Dude 9 September 2020 09: 58 New
                22
                Quote: Grazdanin
                Call the barn a wolf? Yes, armata does not fit completely into a tank sight from 5 kilometers!

                Themselves in sight, sitting in the tower? Or do you see it from a pot in kindergarten? wink
                1. Alf
                  Alf 9 September 2020 13: 51 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Dude
                  Themselves in sight, sitting in the tower?

                  In HERE, a friend saw ..
                  1. Dude
                    Dude 9 September 2020 16: 14 New
                    +1
                    In HERE, a friend saw ..
                    ... and then hardly repeat
          2. lucul
            lucul 9 September 2020 09: 55 New
            +2
            So the merkava is also smaller)) The one-eyed grenade launcher will get into Armatur without aiming!

            Only - only the dimensions were declassified - and in the West, pictures "by eye" are ready for a long time)))
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 9 September 2020 09: 59 New
              -22
              Are they not correct? the length of the T-14 tank with the cannon forward is 10435 mm, the Merkava 9040.
              1. lucul
                lucul 9 September 2020 10: 01 New
                +4
                Are they not correct?

                So where does the data come from if the dimensions are just now declassified? )))
                1. Grazdanin
                  Grazdanin 9 September 2020 10: 03 New
                  -8
                  He was not skated at parades unless. laughing have not been shown at exhibitions? lol Is the task to measure with a laser ruler or compare with other objects not feasible for you? wink
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 9 September 2020 10: 09 New
                    +5
                    He was not skated at parades unless. laughing at exhibitions did not show? lol Is the task to measure with a laser ruler or compare with other objects not feasible for you?

                    Don't think that you know more developers)))
                    The type of tank on the parade, and the type of tank when entering the troops can make a big difference)))))
                    1. Grazdanin
                      Grazdanin 9 September 2020 10: 11 New
                      -25
                      Huge! At parades, their length is 10435, in the army 0,0. lol
                      1. lucul
                        lucul 9 September 2020 10: 14 New
                        -6
                        Huge! At parades, their length is 10435

                        At the parade, a 120mm cannon, in the troops - a 152mm cannon))))
                        Do you think the length will be the same? )))
                      2. Grazdanin
                        Grazdanin 9 September 2020 10: 15 New
                        -11
                        Quote: lucul
                        Cannon 120mmm on parade

                        laughing laughing
                        When did we rearm to NATO standards? laughing
        2. Aleksandr1971
          Aleksandr1971 9 September 2020 11: 45 New
          +6
          The grenade is a pretty slow thing. KAZ "Armata" will easily intercept it.
        3. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 9 September 2020 12: 47 New
          +9
          Comparison with Abrams
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 9 September 2020 15: 36 New
            0
            Still, the T-14 is slightly higher, by 20 centimeters))))
        4. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 9 September 2020 13: 16 New
          +5
          Quote: Grazdanin
          So the merkava is also smaller

          The Merkava and Leopard are shorter than the T-14, mainly due to the fact that the trunks are shorter.
          The T-14 has a slightly longer hull, but again, mainly due to the overhangs:
          in front, a long wheel arch liner, with an anti-mine device,
          At the back, external tanks are far removed (in case of a penetration, fuel will flow to the ground, and not along the side of the tank).
          And with Abrams, the length of the support surface is generally the same.
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 9 September 2020 10: 00 New
      +7
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Quote: Ascold1901
      Larger than the current base tank.

      Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!


      Well try to beat it.
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 9 September 2020 12: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: Grazdanin
      Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!

      Oha, the T-14 has almost no tower, Abrashi and Leo have huge sheds where 3 people sit))) The T-14 tower is a box 200 * 100 * 95 cm approximately)))) You still need to get into it, especially from a frontal projection. And most importantly - well, you will hit the armature - all the same, the rocket-propelled grenade / rocket will not reach - the Afghani will multiply it by zero quickly, he will even multiply the BOPS by zero))))
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 9 September 2020 12: 09 New
        -15
        Quote: Albert1988
        There are almost no T-14 towers

        Almost not? laughing
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 9 September 2020 12: 11 New
          12
          Quote: Grazdanin
          Almost not?

          I see you are a "knowledgeable specialist" and generally an extremely "foolish" person)))
          Therefore, you can not distinguish the tower from the body kit)))




          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 9 September 2020 13: 04 New
            -18
            Uryakly are so funny, they change their shoes in the air, the main thing is that propaganda writes, not their brains. T90 is smaller than Abrams, we write that the shed for RPGs, Armata is larger than Abrams, so this is a new generation and body kits. Nothing that Abrams has the same body kits?
            Armata is larger than all Western tanks, but that doesn't matter. The MBT concept is on its way, + \ - they are all alike, all just low-maneuverable targets.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 9 September 2020 13: 14 New
              +7
              Quote: Grazdanin
              Uryakly are so funny, they change their shoes in the air, the main thing is that propaganda writes, not their brains. T90 is smaller than Abrams, we write that a shed for an RPG,

              Let's think a little, turning on such a device as the brain - the T-90 and Abramkins have a tower in which the ekmpage sits, if something arrives there and punches it, they will kill the crew, and therefore the tank. The T-14 has no one in the turret - if something flies in there and hits it, the tank is not capable of combat, but the crew is alive and can leave the car, but with a successful confluence. if the chassis and MTO are not damaged, leave on their own))) Therefore, for Abrani and the 90th, the dimensions of the tower matter, for the T-14 - not so)))
              Quote: Grazdanin
              Nothing that Abrams has the same body kits?

              If you remove the body kits from the abrashi tower, it will decrease by 5010 percent of its volume, but for the T-14 without body kit, the tower is less than 40-50 percent, can you catch the difference?
              Quote: Grazdanin
              Armata is larger than all Western tanks, but that doesn't matter.

              She only has a larger body, and then the length of the tracked base there is more by 20 centimeters than that of the same abrash with Leo, but the t-14 body is higher due to the thick - 25-30 centimeters of armor protection of the roof of this very body (passive armor + DZ ).
              Quote: Grazdanin
              The MBT concept is on its way, + \ - they are all alike, all just low-maneuverable targets.

              Oga, of course, everyone rushed to make new MBTs - whoever is poorer or has less experience makes "new old", such as the Turks and the same Chinese with the South Koreans and Japanese, and who is richer or has a lot of experience - I do something fundamentally new - ours (T-14 based on Armata), Evrikas (Franco-German unit), Americans (as part of the NGCV program), and "intermediate" animals appear - like the same challenger with an evil 130 mm German shot)))
              Well, yes, MBT is dead, long live MBT)))
              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 9 September 2020 13: 46 New
                -8
                Quote: Albert1988
                The T-14 has no one in the tower

                The fact that the probability of the crew surviving is the main and undoubted plus of the Armata. But the disadvantages of Armata will not allow it to become massive, and it will serve in parades and in elite, ostentatious units.
                Quote: Albert1988
                everyone rushed to make new MBT

                Who rushed? These 130 \ 140 mm guns are from the 80s. Even the Leclerc 140 mm cannon was designed, as there were no tasks for these cannons and no. There are no contracts for the supply of these guns and are not planned. Rheinmetall is a commercial company, it can do anything with its own money.
                Quote: Albert1988
                type of Turks and the same Chinese with South Koreans and Japanese

                Copies of Leopards for import substitution, no more.
                Quote: Albert1988
                Americans (as part of the NGCV program)

                This is a program for a new BMP to replace Bradley, they have been wanting to change it for 20 years.

                All of these programs are research and commercial in nature. There are no national MBT rearmament programs, no where. In fact, the US ILC is abandoning MBT, Britain is close to this, MBT reductions are underway in all armies, formally or not formally. Russia, the USA, Germany, Turkey, etc. have contracts only for the modernization of the MBT. The USA, Turkey, Japan, etc., are purchasing light and medium tanks.
                The only really new tank in the last 30 years is the T-14, and there is no enthusiasm from the military, only bravado from propagandists. Abroad, in general, he does not care what advantage he has over Western tanks, only the protection of the crew.
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 9 September 2020 15: 35 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  But the disadvantages of Armata will not allow it to become massive, and it will serve in parades and in elite, ostentatious units.

                  I have a question - what are the disadvantages? Cost and labor intensity of production? so for these indicators, even relative, the T-14 is far from the champion among modern MBT.
                  And the second question - what is "mass" in the modern sense? If the T-14 is produced, say, 1000 units, then in modern conditions it will be not just a mass, but a super-mass tank! In the armies of the near future, MBT will be a small, but very technically advanced and mandatory component of the ground forces.
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  Who rushed?

                  the Americans revived the old programs, which they put on the back burner, the Franks have teamed up with the Deutsches, which is unheard of! This is enough)
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  These 130 \ 140 mm guns are from the 80s.

                  Nothing of the kind - we are talking about a fundamentally new German weapon, designed to fit into modern MBT (although it is not known what is there with its performance characteristics, you have to pay for everything).
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  Copies of Leopards for import substitution, no more.

                  If you follow your logic, then you don't need to substitute any leopards for import, because you just need to take all the tanks and cut them off (albeit not right away), so let the old Leo live out ... But no, they will make their own MBT bad for something))) )
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  This is a program for a new BMP to replace Bradley, they have been wanting to change it for 20 years.

                  Alas, it is far from only BMP - within the framework of this program, a universal chassis should be created for: BMP, ACS, MBT, and the MBT will be strikingly different from the same abrash, since its mass will drop to about 40 tons, but the gun, rather in total, a large caliber is inserted - 130-140 mm.
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  In fact, the US ILC abandon MBT

                  MBT for KMP is like a car trailer with a kitchen for a hiker! That's when their ground forces begin to massively cut Abrashi - that's when we'll talk)
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  Britain is close to it

                  Britain is already banal to conduct massive military operations on land, therefore it does not particularly need tanks.
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  MBT reductions are underway in all armies

                  That's right - because in all established armies there is a tendency to reduce all types of weapons and personnel in favor of an increase in the level of training and technical perfection of technology. Only armies under construction, such as the PLA, are actively purchasing new equipment and expanding its fleet.
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  Russia, the USA, Germany, Turkey, etc. have contracts only for the modernization of the MBT.

                  That's right - because very many have a bunch of old cars that can still be extended)
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  The USA, Turkey, Japan, etc., are purchasing light and medium tanks.

                  Turkey, however, is actively promoting Altai, the Japanese Type-10 is by no means an average, but a typical MBT. But as far as light tanks are concerned, only the US ILC is now looking for them, as well as poor countries whose budget and infrastructure will not be able to handle full MBT)
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  The only really new tank in the last 30 years is the T-14,

                  Nobody argues, no matter how some might try to prove otherwise)
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  and there is no enthusiasm for the military,

                  I have no doubt that the military told you personally over a glass of vodka in a heart-to-heart conversation <no> for all their absent enthusiasm))) <Sarcasm>
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  Abroad, in general, he does not care what an advantage he has over Western tanks, only the protection of the crew.

                  Well, yes, KAZ, capable of intercepting BOPS, AFAR, integrated into the digital side of the tank, the most powerful tank gun at the moment ... Yes, there are no advantages ...
                  Yes, protection alone is more than enough!
            2. Alf
              Alf 9 September 2020 13: 55 New
              +7
              Quote: Grazdanin
              The concept of MBT is dying,

              And what instead of her? An infantryman in an exoskeleton with a cable to the nearest nuclear power plant?
            3. Alber alber
              Alber alber 10 September 2020 21: 29 New
              0
              And Leclerc will not say what height, well, in terms of abrash, the issue of height and a shed instead of a tower has not gone anywhere from the agenda, an armata tower with a body kit is smaller and lower than an abrams, armata has a remote machine gun module higher
  5. Dude
    Dude 9 September 2020 09: 28 New
    +6
    A wonderful phrase: "However, during the Army-2020 forum, an advertising brochure was circulated at the Uralvagonzavod stand, which for the first time reflected many parameters, including dimensions." The tank was on the site along with the rest of the equipment))) Walk, look, take pictures ...

    Do not shoot the journalist's p̶i̶a̶n̶i̶s̶t̶a̶ - he writes as best he can yes
  • Alien From
    Alien From 9 September 2020 09: 03 New
    -16
    All right, now they will overwhelm the army with fittings ...
    1. Ascold1901
      Ascold1901 9 September 2020 09: 10 New
      +5
      Will not overwhelm. For this is not necessary at all.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 9 September 2020 09: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: Alien From
      All right, now they will overwhelm the army with fittings ...

      What it means
      Quote: Alien From
      now overwhelm the army
      41 contracts were signed for the supply and modernization of military equipment to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with a total amount of over 1,16 trillion rubles.
      1. Dude
        Dude 9 September 2020 09: 37 New
        12
        What it means
        Quote: Alien From
        now overwhelm the army

        Enough of you, they just envy! repeat
        After all, everyone knows that Armata is made of plywood, stalls every 100 meters, and, in general, is drawn at the Soyuzmultfilm studio winked
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 9 September 2020 10: 05 New
          21
          Quote: Dude
          What it means
          Quote: Alien From
          now overwhelm the army

          Enough of you, they just envy! repeat
          After all, everyone knows that Armata is made of plywood, stalls every 100 meters, and, in general, is drawn at the Soyuzmultfilm studio winked

          So, Sergey, in general, the inner part of the Armata is classified, bully but so be it, I will take responsibility to show ... outside and inside

          1. Dude
            Dude 9 September 2020 10: 10 New
            13
            The chatterbox is a godsend for a spy! Well, why did you upload the chipboard photos of the interior? laughing
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 9 September 2020 10: 14 New
              10
              Quote: Dude
              The chatterbox is a godsend for a spy! Well, why did you upload the chipboard photos of the interior? laughing

              You can't catch up with me. I run to the Canadian border wink
              1. A009
                A009 9 September 2020 11: 34 New
                +3
                Can you choose the interior color scheme?
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 9 September 2020 12: 09 New
                  +6
                  Quote: A009
                  Can you choose the interior color scheme?

                  On the first serial samples - alas, no, this is how it will go into production - so each company can choose the upholstery of the crib and the color of the wallpaper to taste)))) True, they say, there is only one type of toilet in the toilet, but you can also choose different colors!
      2. Alf
        Alf 9 September 2020 13: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: Terenin
        41 contracts were signed for the supply and modernization of military equipment to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with a total amount of over 1,16 trillion rubles.

        And what does this contract say about the number of purchased T-14s?
  • alpamys
    alpamys 9 September 2020 09: 05 New
    -15
    secrecy, but then in the distant 2008th they came to Germany with a request to make a transmission for a new tank and posted all the performance characteristics ??
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 9 September 2020 09: 17 New
      +9
      Share information f
      1. alpamys
        alpamys 9 September 2020 09: 35 New
        -9
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Share information f

        Yes, then both Russian and German sites wrote about this.
        As Rudolf Abel said, 95% of classified information can be obtained from newspapers, you just need to read them correctly.
      2. Dude
        Dude 9 September 2020 09: 38 New
        +5
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Share information f

        I join the request! lol
    2. lucul
      lucul 9 September 2020 09: 57 New
      +4
      secrecy, but then in the distant 2008th they came to Germany with a request to make a transmission for a new tank and posted all the performance characteristics ??

      Another - "you can believe me, I am a Crimean officer's daughter" ....)))
      1. alpamys
        alpamys 9 September 2020 12: 08 New
        -11
        Quote: lucul
        secrecy, but then in the distant 2008th they came to Germany with a request to make a transmission for a new tank and posted all the performance characteristics ??

        Another - "you can believe me, I am a Crimean officer's daughter" ....)))

        yes, believe me or not, the delegation was large. wink
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 9 September 2020 12: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: alpamys
          yes, believe me or not, the delegation was large.

          Do gentlemen take the word?
        2. Alf
          Alf 9 September 2020 13: 58 New
          +3
          Quote: alpamys
          yes, believe me or not, the delegation was large.

          And I was there, drinking honey beer.
          It flowed down the mustache, didn't get into the mouth ... laughing
  • Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 9 September 2020 09: 16 New
    -4
    horror, what a secret, modern photographic equipment with an accuracy of a centimeter can determine its dimensions.
  • Yrec
    Yrec 9 September 2020 09: 23 New
    -2
    Well, well, interesting. If the length of the T-14 fits on a standard railway platform, then the width does not. Because the platform width is 2760 mm. For transportation, you will have to remove the side screens, otherwise the GBS (the size of the approach of buildings) will not fit. The very first exercise with a transfer to the railway will show that the standards for the preparation of the T-14 for the transfer will have to be revised.
    1. Dude
      Dude 9 September 2020 09: 42 New
      +5
      For transportation, you will have to remove the side screens, otherwise the GBS (the size of the approach of buildings) will not fit. The very first exercise with a transfer to the railway will show that the standards for the preparation of the T-14 for the transfer will have to be revised.

      In the "zero" dimension perfectly passes, NNP, and all highways and roadways, have long been sharpened under it. So I don't think there will be any shipping problem.
    2. uav80
      uav80 9 September 2020 09: 44 New
      +4
      3820 is the width across the side screens, the track, respectively, is narrower ...
      The same T-90 on track 3370, along the centers of 2790, otherwise the screens are 3780, respectively, and it also goes beyond the dimensions of the platform, but how are they transported. The same platform 13-4012 has a width of 2870 without boards ...
    3. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 9 September 2020 13: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: Yrec
      For transportation, you will have to remove the side screens,

      And without the T-14 screens it will be even prettier:

      [Center]
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 9 September 2020 13: 20 New
        0
        Prettier not prettier. but more brutal for sure, although the security of the sides goes to ...
    4. Aeshken
      Aeshken 9 September 2020 13: 49 New
      +1
      Removing the sides of the platform is not a problem at all, and the combat manuals must be adjusted to the concept of application, which just changes with the adoption of new types of weapons. It was always like this, over there in Nazi Germany, with the adoption of the MP43 \ 44 aka StG44 (Sturmgever), the tactics of infantry combat had to be changed - since the actual (really effective) combat distance increased compared to the pistol-machine guns chambered for 9x19. StG - 7,92x33mm intermediate.
  • L-39NG
    L-39NG 9 September 2020 09: 49 New
    +1
    I do not quite understand the need for a "sighting" machine gun with such observation devices and sights, which, according to the developers, should be on "ARMATA". You yourself know what the flight path of a 7,62 mm bullet is, when shooting, for example, at 2000 meters, plus side wind and shooting in motion. That way, you can put a "sighting" machine gun on the "Rapier". Saving projectiles for "soft" targets? So after all, without infantry escort or without air cover, sending a tank into battle is not very smart, and, in addition, there is an all-azimuth defense machine gun with remote control. Explain the meaning.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 9 September 2020 12: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: L-39NG
      I do not quite understand the need for a "sighting" machine gun with such observation devices and sights, which, according to the developers, should be on "ARMATA".

      About sighting is most likely a zhurnlyug myth, and the military, just out of old habit, asked to put a coaxial machine gun for the possibility of additional fire on the infantry.
    2. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 9 September 2020 13: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: L-39NG
      I do not quite understand the need for a "sighting" machine gun

      A machine gun paired with a cannon is found on almost all tanks. But it is used mainly for targets where there is enough bullet, and the projectile is redundant.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 September 2020 09: 52 New
    0
    From the photo, you can determine the dimensions with an accuracy of 5 cm.
    1. kot423
      kot423 9 September 2020 10: 05 New
      +1
      Uh-huh. And it is also possible (for example) to add extra 15-30-50cm to the exhibition sample in a circle from polystyrene, paint it in color and then grin at the cries of "partners" like - yes, this is a barn, it is one-armed, one-eyed and drunk in a dupu 5 km away The grenade launcher will remove ... And the performance data should be "corrected" in the same way.
      1. Ascold1901
        Ascold1901 9 September 2020 12: 57 New
        +2
        I dare to assure you that there is no added plywood or foam)))) I saw this tank as now my keyboard. For some reason, everyone is fixated on the outer dimensions. Is this the Main thing in the Tank? It always seemed to me, a fool, that the main thing in the Tank is Protection, Firepower and Speed)))) One thing consoles - with me ALL the designers of armored vehicles got into the fools since the 30s)))
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 9 September 2020 13: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Ascold1901
          One thing consoles - ALL the designers of armored vehicles since the 30s got into the fools with me)))

          Do not worry - if the couch fighters consider the enemy doo ... alternatively thinking - this is good - then the couches will soon be on fire!
        2. kot423
          kot423 9 September 2020 13: 36 New
          +1
          Yes, I just joked about commentators about "from the photo you can determine the size of a horseshoe on a flea" and "a shed 10x10x10 km, everyone is cooler than him." wink
  • Sakmagon
    Sakmagon 9 September 2020 10: 01 New
    +3
    At the same time, the author claims that a coaxial machine gun appeared at the request of the Ministry of Defense for zeroing.

    For sighting what? laughing Have you installed a machine gun to shoot him? laughing
    And the weapon is not aimed, but verified (more precisely, its sights). You don't need a machine gun for this
  • Alex_You
    Alex_You 9 September 2020 10: 24 New
    +1
    Uralvagonzavod has declassified the dimensions of the T-14 Armata tank

    Those who wanted to have already counted, there are enough photos on the internet:
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 9 September 2020 10: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: Alex_You
      there are enough photos on the internet
      As well as schemes.
      1. Alex_You
        Alex_You 9 September 2020 11: 02 New
        +1
        Ha even so! good
      2. Albert1988
        Albert1988 9 September 2020 12: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Per se.
        As well as schemes.

        The scheme is fundamentally not correct in terms of AZ - the location of the shells is simply stupidly copied from the old Abrams block-3:

        So then believe in all sorts of self-painted "schemes"! There, the shells are clearly not unitary, as in the diagram, and the length of the crowbars is 900 mm, so consider whether they fit or not ...
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 September 2020 12: 25 New
    -3
    On Armata, a mechanical transmission is not a robot!
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 9 September 2020 12: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Vadim237
      On Armata, a mechanical transmission is not a robot!

      So what? This is, by the way, the most reliable and flexible type of transmission!
      And then - if this data is published for a hypothetical export sample - then draw conclusions ...
    2. Alf
      Alf 9 September 2020 14: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: Vadim237
      On Armata, a mechanical transmission is not a robot!

      Ferrari and Lamborghini also have mechanics. Sucks !!!
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 9 September 2020 15: 23 New
        +1
        on modern ones already like machines.
  • And why do you need
    And why do you need 9 September 2020 12: 48 New
    -6
    At the moment, the most invulnerable tank, because it is in a single copy, it is almost impossible to get into it.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 9 September 2020 13: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: Why do you need it?
      At the moment, the most invulnerable tank, because it is in a single copy, it is almost impossible to get into it.

      Oha - and at the parade there are 7 pieces - are there phantom copies or fakes made of cardboard? And about 30-40 more units in the army on testing ground - are they like inflatable?
  • L-39NG
    L-39NG 9 September 2020 12: 56 New
    -3
    Okay, now let's see, the driver, the tank commander and, I don't know what to call it, the "operator"? "Serve" the "close" and "distant" perimeters around the tank, in three crew members, until they can, they will not have time, they rely on AI, very early. In short, according to Stanislavsky - "I don't believe!"
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 9 September 2020 13: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: L-39NG
      "Serve" the "close" and "distant" perimeters around the tank, in three crew members, until they can, they will not have time, they rely on AI, very early. In short, according to Stanislavsky - "I don't believe!"

      Dear, how do the same 3 crew members manage to do this in the same T-90/80/72?
      1. Alf
        Alf 9 September 2020 14: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: Albert1988
        Quote: L-39NG
        "Serve" the "close" and "distant" perimeters around the tank, in three crew members, until they can, they will not have time, they rely on AI, very early. In short, according to Stanislavsky - "I don't believe!"

        Dear, how do the same 3 crew members manage to do this in the same T-90/80/72?

        And they do not know that this is impossible.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 9 September 2020 15: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Alf
          And they do not know that this is impossible.

          So maybe they won't know on the T-14 either?
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 9 September 2020 15: 14 New
    +2
    manual transmission? wassat
    it seems like there was a machine gun
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 9 September 2020 16: 23 New
      -1
      Quote: silver_roman
      manual transmission?
      it seems like there was a machine gun

      It is possible that this is for the export version.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 9 September 2020 16: 15 New
    -1
    Quote: Doccor18
    Export contracts on the bow ...

    Who will buy a tank that has not yet completed the tests, if NONE is in the army. There is no operating experience, and the warriors will present their claims in a year. They will take into account, change. And the layout of the tank is not at all classical, this is not a model of a well-known popular tank.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 9 September 2020 16: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      Who will buy a tank that has not yet completed the tests, if NONE is in the army. There is no operating experience, and the warriors will present their claims in a year. They will take into account, change. And the layout of the tank is not at all classical, this is not a model of a well-known popular tank.

      It is logical to assume that at first he will be chased by our troops, and then the "outsiders" will start buying it ...
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 9 September 2020 23: 57 New
    +2
    All these dances with the Armata, with the Su-57, with all these "new projects", very much remind me of 30 years. Tupolev, Taubin, Kurchatovsky and a bunch of other "geniuses". Projects - dofiga. Zababakhano money - a lot. At the exit - PSHIK. A bunch of "wunderwaffe projects", in a series - horseradish and butter. Look at the "new AK-12" and the difference, except for the body kit from the AK74M - zero. I am NOT saying that the projects are bad. But if there is nothing in the SERIES, then there is no weapon either. They are fighting, just in case, not by "projects" which, as Shirokorad colorfully described, "worked at the factory proving grounds, and categorically refused to work at army trials." You can talk as much as you like about whether the F-35 or F-22 sucks, but it IS, and flies, and in the series. And the Su-57 is not in the series. You can say as much as you like how bad or good the Abrams, Bradley and others like them are, you can make fun of Leclerc, Challenger, with the new 130 and 140mm guns, but they ARE in the series, or at least passed the tests (Cannons) but Armata and Kurganets I don't see in the series. All this whistle very much reminds me of the situation in the 30s, that there are projects, and as long as the NKVD does not take on them, nothing works (remember, rocket artillery). So while the "genius creators" will not be asked "Why, your product itself does not go into the series, stops at parades and sits without radars and engines. Why the cost of the ship is huge and the combat effectiveness is lower than that of Oliver X Perry", or Spruens 30 years ago, nothing will happen. Why can't a submarine be as quiet as Seawulf and Los Angeles? Why the acoustics did not reach the level of American, British, French and Japanese. Until they ASK "Where is the loot and where is the result" There simply won't be any sense.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 10 September 2020 14: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      All these whistles with the Armata, with the Su-57, with all these "new projects", very much remind me of 30 years.

      Well, you are absolutely WRONG! There is only one similarity - this is a situation when the army is in dire need of new weapons. It's all. Because in the 30s, no one yet knew exactly what was needed and how it should look, from that they were pushed back and forth. Now everything is clear - very specific things are needed - a new MBT / universal platform for heavy tracked vehicles (armata), a new medium BMP (Kurganets), a new heavy fighter (Su-57), etc. As for the large number of projects - so forgive them, since the 90s, a cloud! Only now, not so many new developments are receiving real funding - in BTT these are armata, kurganets and truncated ... The rest is just variations on the modernization of existing samples.
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      Shirokorad colorfully described "they worked at the factory proving grounds, and categorically refused to work at army trials"

      I advise Shirokorada to read less - he has a lot of emotions and little meaning ...
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      You can talk as much as you like about whether the F-35 or F-22 sucks, but it IS, and flies, and in the series.

      The F-22 is no longer only in the series and flies (and "hryapa", by the way, is a great car!), It has long been removed from production! And the F-35 was taken into the series - this is a purely commercial project, it is profitable to bake a lot of imperfections there - the customer has a lot of money - he will pay for all the developers' shoals). We don’t have that much money, so we have to lick it first, and then in the series. The same armats are already in the series - the first series for testing - about 40 pieces, and another 140 - already the first series directly for arming military units and trial operation.
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      You can say as much as you like how good or bad Abrams, Bradley and others like them are

      So the T-90 and BMP-3 - analogs of those very "Bradleys" and "Abrash" - in the series and for a long time, all sorts of armata - this is the next step)
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      you can make fun of Leclerc, Challenger, new 130 and 140mm guns, but they ARE in the series

      Alas and ah - I will grieve you, but the vehicles with 130-mm and 140-mm guns you have designated in the series are completely absent from the word! There is 1 prototype each and fate still hangs in the balance (for the challenger so for sure).
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      So while the "genius creators" will not be asked

      I will disappoint you here too - they ask and they ask very well. But for asking questions, it is also necessary to scrape off the industry from rust, and in some places and generally rebuild from scratch! It's generally a miracle that we can build something and develop something after what happened in the 90s!
  • philosopher
    philosopher 12 September 2020 08: 42 New
    0
    Explain why two machine guns and both 7,62 mm !?
    It seems to be explained by the fact that the machine gun will be used to shoot down slowly flying anti-tank missiles. I'm just not sure that the characteristics of the PCMT are suitable for this.