Uralvagonzavod has declassified the dimensions of the T-14 Armata tank

Uralvagonzavod has declassified dimensions tank T-14, created on the Armata platform. The data on the tank were presented during the Army-2020 military-technical forum, held in the Moscow region.

This is reported by the blog Gur Khan attacks!

Until recently, the dimensions of the T-14 "Armata" tank were not officially presented anywhere, even on the site of the "UVZ" itself, so all the data on the tank were taken from the Internet. However, during the Army-2020 forum, an advertising brochure was circulated at the Uralvagonzavod stand, which for the first time reflected many parameters, including dimensions.

So, according to the data from the UVZ brochure, the length of the T-14 tank with the cannon in front is 10435 mm, the width along the side screens is 3820 mm and the height along the panoramic sight is 3218 mm.

The armament of the tank is a 2 mm 82A1-125M cannon and two 7,62 mm machine guns - one mounted on the turret, and the second coaxial with the cannon. At the same time, the author claims that a coaxial machine gun appeared at the request of the Ministry of Defense for zeroing. Initially, it was not provided.

Also noteworthy is the power of the tank's engine. In the brochure, the specified power is equal to 1500 hp, which provides the tank with a speed of up to 75 km / h. The declared fuel range is 600 km.

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[Doccor18]

Until recently, the dimensions of the T-14 "Armata" tank were not officially presented anywhere ..

Export contracts on the bow ...

[Dude]

Quote: Doccor18

Until recently, the dimensions of the T-14 "Armata" tank were not officially presented anywhere ..

Export contracts on the bow ...

And why not?
Silently envy and modernize your Chariot

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Dude

Silently envy and modernize your Chariot

Who to envy is still unknown. "Armata" has not met with anyone yet, so let's take a look at the hats and the cons (what are they for?).

[Dude]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: Dude

Silently envy and modernize your Chariot

Who to envy is still unknown. "Armata" has not met with anyone yet, so let's take a look at the hats and the cons (what are they for?).

Yes, I am far from throwing hats, but, pay attention, how did a certain contingent get burnt from this news? And this cannot but rejoice

[Real Pilot]

Yes.
In June, Interfax, referring to a representative of Rostec, reported that Armata had received export passport, and this is already a document in accordance with which the characteristics of export vehicles are determined. It is these characteristics that are provided to foreign customers.
That is, officially approved information appeared for the promotion of a new tank, this is no longer a secret, but an advertisement ...

[BAI]

At the same time, the author claims that a coaxial machine gun appeared at the request of the Ministry of Defense for zeroing. Initially, it was not provided.

MO does not believe in automation. Visualization is safer.

[Ascold1901]

Interesting))) How can a cannon be shot at a machine gun? And with a 7,62 caliber? Maybe someone knows to share.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Ascold1901

Interesting))) How can a cannon be shot at a machine gun? And with a 7,62 caliber? Maybe someone knows to share.

Do not hurry. This information has not yet been declassified. So far, only the dimensions.

[dzvero]

One can The machine gun acts as a rangefinder. A 7.62x54 bullet can fly for several kilometers, there is enough energy (this is a range in general, not a direct shot!). I saw where the tracer hit, the elevation angle of the machine gun gives the range, entered the data into the gun and forward. Convenient if you do not want to "notify" the enemy by irradiating the rangefinder with a laser. Ballistics, of course, are different, but in this case it is not fundamental. The shell will hit where the bullet hit.

[Ascold1901]

Thank. Is it Practice or Theory?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Ascold1901

Thank. Is it Practice or Theory?

Theory. You don't need to shoot a cannon everywhere; for some purposes, a bullet is enough.

[dzvero]

Theory and guess how the 7.62mm machine gun will work. Previously, they used 12,7 mm sighting machine guns (for example, the British Chief) - their ballistics up to 1500-2000 m were similar. With 7.62 it won't be that easy, but possible. It is not entirely clear why the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation demanded an alternative to the laser rangefinder at 7.62 and not at 12.7 or 14.5 mm. It will be easier to implement this on large calibers.

[kytx]

In general, it is strange of course.
at a distance of a couple of km, for example, shoot a cannon from a machine gun?
Their ballistics are completely different.
Although I saw a photo of the 60s or 70s, an artillery gun fixed on the SCS barrel, sort of like to adjust the sight, or something.
who would explain

[Alf]

Quote: kytx

Although I saw a photo of the 60s or 70s, an artillery gun fixed on the SCS barrel, sort of like to adjust the sight, or something.
who would explain

These are the so-called "barrel firing", that is, all operations are carried out to load the gun, but after the command Fire, it is not the gun itself that shoots, but the small-caliber gun attached to it (MKO). Previously, the MCO was built into the barrel, but then, for the purpose of simplification, the MCO began to be attached outside the main barrel. The benefit is obvious - ammunition is saved and the barrel is saved.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Alf

Earlier MCO was built into the barrel

When I served in the army, a liner for a 14mm cartridge was inserted into the barrel of a tank. Ballistics matched the main caliber. To insert the liner and remove it from the barrel when not needed is not a big deal. And I think it's much easier than fencing another barrel outside the tank.

[kytx]

I understand that this is about the conditions of the battle. You can't run with a liner there.
like attack aircraft of the time of WW2 - aimed with a machine gun and zhahnul from the cannon.
but there were different distances

IL2 does not count, he hit point targets badly :)
although Emelianenko described this

[kytx]

So I understood.
I wonder how they combine the sks in parallel with the radial line of the gun barrel?
Or is it like this: like the calculation then ran a small BUM from a carbine.
the photo was from Vietnam incidentally, the officers are Russian

[Alexey from Perm]

why a laser rangefinder? and a modern MSA, apparently a machine gun is more reliable in battle? they would have "lured" a small catapult for throwing stones ..

[Zaurbek]

On the T90M, the machine gun in the panorama was replaced with a Kord 12,7mm at the request of the Ministry of Defense.

[Ascold1901]

A wonderful phrase: "However, during the Army-2020 forum, an advertising brochure was distributed at the Uralvagonzavod stand, which for the first time reflected many parameters, including dimensions." The tank stood on the site along with the rest of the equipment))) Walk, look, take pictures. It looks pretty impressive, in photos and videos it does not seem so big. Larger than the current base tank. Outwardly, I liked him. And the concept is correct - a heavily armored hull and an uninhabited tower.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Ascold1901

Larger than the current base tank.

Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!

[Dude]

Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!

Merkava is also not small, however, this does not prevent it from being one of the best modern tanks. Or can they, but we can’t?

[Grazdanin]

So the merkava is also smaller)) The one-eyed grenade launcher will get into Armatur without aiming!

[Dude]

The one-eyed grenade launcher will hit Armatur without aiming!

May God bless your wolf calf!

[Grazdanin]

Call the barn a wolf? Yes, armata does not fit completely into a tank sight from 5 kilometers!

[Dude]

Quote: Grazdanin

Call the barn a wolf? Yes, armata does not fit completely into a tank sight from 5 kilometers!

Themselves in sight, sitting in the tower? Or do you see it from a pot in kindergarten?

[Alf]

Quote: Dude

Themselves in sight, sitting in the tower?

In HERE, a friend saw ..

[Dude]

In HERE, a friend saw ..

... and then hardly

[lucul]

So the merkava is also smaller)) The one-eyed grenade launcher will get into Armatur without aiming!

Only - only the dimensions were declassified - and in the West, pictures "by eye" are ready for a long time)))

[Grazdanin]

Are they not correct? the length of the T-14 tank with the cannon forward is 10435 mm, the Merkava 9040.

[lucul]

Are they not correct?

So where does the data come from if the dimensions are just now declassified? )))

[Grazdanin]

He was not skated at parades unless. have not been shown at exhibitions? Is the task to measure with a laser ruler or compare with other objects not feasible for you?

[lucul]

He was not skated at parades unless. laughing at exhibitions did not show? lol Is the task to measure with a laser ruler or compare with other objects not feasible for you?

Don't think that you know more developers)))
The type of tank on the parade, and the type of tank when entering the troops can make a big difference)))))

[Grazdanin]

Huge! At parades, their length is 10435, in the army 0,0.

[lucul]

Huge! At parades, their length is 10435

At the parade, a 120mm cannon, in the troops - a 152mm cannon))))
Do you think the length will be the same? )))

[Grazdanin]

Quote: lucul

Cannon 120mmm on parade

When did we rearm to NATO standards?

[Aleksandr1971]

The grenade is a pretty slow thing. KAZ "Armata" will easily intercept it.

[Bad_gr]

Comparison with Abrams

[Albert1988]

Still, the T-14 is slightly higher, by 20 centimeters))))

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Grazdanin

So the merkava is also smaller

The Merkava and Leopard are shorter than the T-14, mainly due to the fact that the trunks are shorter.
The T-14 has a slightly longer hull, but again, mainly due to the overhangs:
in front, a long wheel arch liner, with an anti-mine device,
At the back, external tanks are far removed (in case of a penetration, fuel will flow to the ground, and not along the side of the tank).
And with Abrams, the length of the support surface is generally the same.

[1976AG]

Quote: Grazdanin

Quote: Ascold1901

Larger than the current base tank.

Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!

Well try to beat it.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Grazdanin

Armata is bigger than Abrams and Leopard. The perfect target for a grenade launcher!

Oha, the T-14 has almost no tower, Abrashi and Leo have huge sheds where 3 people sit))) The T-14 tower is a box 200 * 100 * 95 cm approximately)))) You still need to get into it, especially from a frontal projection. And most importantly - well, you will hit the armature - all the same, the rocket-propelled grenade / rocket will not reach - the Afghani will multiply it by zero quickly, he will even multiply the BOPS by zero))))

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Albert1988

There are almost no T-14 towers

Almost not?

[Albert1988]

Quote: Grazdanin

Almost not?

I see you are a "knowledgeable specialist" and generally an extremely "foolish" person)))
Therefore, you can not distinguish the tower from the body kit)))

[Grazdanin]

Uryakly are so funny, they change their shoes in the air, the main thing is that propaganda writes, not their brains. T90 is smaller than Abrams, we write that the shed for RPGs, Armata is larger than Abrams, so this is a new generation and body kits. Nothing that Abrams has the same body kits?
Armata is larger than all Western tanks, but that doesn't matter. The MBT concept is on its way, + \ - they are all alike, all just low-maneuverable targets.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Grazdanin

Uryakly are so funny, they change their shoes in the air, the main thing is that propaganda writes, not their brains. T90 is smaller than Abrams, we write that a shed for an RPG,

Let's think a little, turning on such a device as the brain - the T-90 and Abramkins have a tower in which the ekmpage sits, if something arrives there and punches it, they will kill the crew, and therefore the tank. The T-14 has no one in the turret - if something flies in there and hits it, the tank is not capable of combat, but the crew is alive and can leave the car, but with a successful confluence. if the chassis and MTO are not damaged, leave on their own))) Therefore, for Abrani and the 90th, the dimensions of the tower matter, for the T-14 - not so)))

Quote: Grazdanin

Nothing that Abrams has the same body kits?

If you remove the body kits from the abrashi tower, it will decrease by 5010 percent of its volume, but for the T-14 without body kit, the tower is less than 40-50 percent, can you catch the difference?

Quote: Grazdanin

Armata is larger than all Western tanks, but that doesn't matter.

She only has a larger body, and then the length of the tracked base there is more by 20 centimeters than that of the same abrash with Leo, but the t-14 body is higher due to the thick - 25-30 centimeters of armor protection of the roof of this very body (passive armor + DZ ).

Quote: Grazdanin

The MBT concept is on its way, + \ - they are all alike, all just low-maneuverable targets.

Oga, of course, everyone rushed to make new MBTs - whoever is poorer or has less experience makes "new old", such as the Turks and the same Chinese with South Koreans and Japanese, and who is richer or has a lot of experience - I do something fundamentally new - ours (T-14 based on Armata), Evrikas (Franco-German unit), Americans (as part of the NGCV program), and "intermediate" animals appear - like the same challenger with an evil 130 mm German shot)))
Well, yes, MBT is dead, long live MBT)))

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Albert1988

The T-14 has no one in the tower

The fact that the probability of the crew surviving is the main and undoubted plus of the Armata. But the disadvantages of Armata will not allow it to become massive, and it will serve in parades and in elite, ostentatious units.

Quote: Albert1988

everyone rushed to make new MBT

Who rushed? These 130 \ 140 mm guns are from the 80s. Even the Leclerc 140 mm cannon was designed, as there were no tasks for these cannons and no. There are no contracts for the supply of these guns and are not planned. Rheinmetall is a commercial company, it can do anything with its own money.

Quote: Albert1988

type of Turks and the same Chinese with South Koreans and Japanese

Copies of Leopards for import substitution, no more.

Quote: Albert1988

Americans (as part of the NGCV program)

This is a program for a new BMP to replace Bradley, they have been wanting to change it for 20 years.

All of these programs are research and commercial in nature. There are no national MBT rearmament programs, no where. In fact, the US ILC is abandoning MBT, Britain is close to this, MBT reductions are underway in all armies, formally or not formally. Russia, the USA, Germany, Turkey, etc. have contracts only for the modernization of the MBT. The USA, Turkey, Japan, etc., are purchasing light and medium tanks.
The only really new tank in the last 30 years is the T-14, and there is no enthusiasm from the military, only bravado from propagandists. Abroad, in general, he does not care what advantage he has over Western tanks, only the protection of the crew.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Grazdanin

But the disadvantages of Armata will not allow it to become massive, and it will serve in parades and in elite, ostentatious units.

I have a question - what are the disadvantages? Cost and labor intensity of production? so for these indicators, even relative, the T-14 is far from the champion among modern MBT.
And the second question - what is "mass" in the modern sense? If the T-14 is produced, say, 1000 units, then in modern conditions it will be not just a mass, but a super-mass tank! In the armies of the near future, MBT will be a small, but very technically advanced and mandatory component of the ground forces.

Quote: Grazdanin

Who rushed?

the Americans revived the old programs, which they put on the back burner, the Franks have teamed up with the Deutsches, which is unheard of! This is enough)

Quote: Grazdanin

These 130 \ 140 mm guns are from the 80s.

Nothing of the kind - we are talking about a fundamentally new German weapon, designed to fit into modern MBT (although it is not known what is there with its performance characteristics, you have to pay for everything).

Quote: Grazdanin

Copies of Leopards for import substitution, no more.

If you follow your logic, then you don't need to substitute any leopards for import, because you just need to take all the tanks and cut them off (albeit not right away), so let the old Leo live out ... But no, they will make their own MBT bad for something))) )

Quote: Grazdanin

This is a program for a new BMP to replace Bradley, they have been wanting to change it for 20 years.

Alas, it is far from only BMP - within the framework of this program, a universal chassis should be created for: BMP, ACS, MBT, and the MBT will be strikingly different from the same abrash, since its mass will drop to about 40 tons, but the gun, rather in total, a large caliber is inserted - 130-140 mm.

Quote: Grazdanin

In fact, the US ILC abandon MBT

MBT for KMP is like a car trailer with a kitchen for a hiker! That's when their ground forces begin to massively cut Abrashi - that's when we'll talk)

Quote: Grazdanin

Britain is close to it

Britain is already banal to conduct massive military operations on land, therefore it does not particularly need tanks.

Quote: Grazdanin

MBT reductions are underway in all armies

That's right - because in all established armies there is a tendency to reduce all types of weapons and personnel in favor of an increase in the level of training and technical perfection of technology. Only armies under construction, such as the PLA, are actively purchasing new equipment and expanding its fleet.

Quote: Grazdanin

Russia, the USA, Germany, Turkey, etc. have contracts only for the modernization of the MBT.

That's right - because very many have a bunch of old cars that can still be extended)

Quote: Grazdanin

The USA, Turkey, Japan, etc., are purchasing light and medium tanks.

Turkey, however, is actively promoting Altai, the Japanese Type-10 is by no means an average, but a typical MBT. But as far as light tanks are concerned, only the US ILC is now looking for them, as well as poor countries whose budget and infrastructure will not be able to handle full MBT)

Quote: Grazdanin

The only really new tank in the last 30 years is the T-14,

Nobody argues, no matter how some might try to prove otherwise)

Quote: Grazdanin

and there is no enthusiasm for the military,

I have no doubt that the military told you personally over a glass of vodka in a heart-to-heart conversation <no> for all their absent enthusiasm))) <Sarcasm>

Quote: Grazdanin

Abroad, in general, he does not care what an advantage he has over Western tanks, only the protection of the crew.

Well, yes, KAZ, capable of intercepting BOPS, AFAR, integrated into the digital side of the tank, the most powerful tank gun at the moment ... Yes, there are no advantages ...
Yes, protection alone is more than enough!

[Alf]

Quote: Grazdanin

The concept of MBT is dying,

And what instead of her? An infantryman in an exoskeleton with a cable to the nearest nuclear power plant?

[Alber alber]

And Leclerc will not say what height, well, in terms of abrash, the issue of height and a shed instead of a tower has not gone anywhere from the agenda, an armata tower with a body kit is smaller and lower than an abrams, armata has a remote machine gun module higher

[Dude]

A wonderful phrase: "However, during the Army-2020 forum, an advertising brochure was distributed at the Uralvagonzavod stand, which for the first time reflected many parameters, including dimensions." The tank was on the site along with the rest of the equipment))) Walk, look, take pictures ...

Do not shoot the journalist's p̶i̶a̶n̶i̶s̶t̶a̶ - he writes as best he can

[Alien From]

All right, now they will overwhelm the army with fittings ...

[Ascold1901]

Will not overwhelm. For this is not necessary at all.

[Terenin]

Quote: Alien From

All right, now they will overwhelm the army with fittings ...

What it means

Quote: Alien From

now overwhelm the army

41 contracts were signed for the supply and modernization of military equipment to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with a total amount of over 1,16 trillion rubles.

[Dude]

What it means
Quote: Alien From
now overwhelm the army

Enough of you, they just envy!
After all, everyone knows that Armata is made of plywood, stalls every 100 meters, and, in general, is drawn at the Soyuzmultfilm studio.

[Terenin]

Quote: Dude

What it means
Quote: Alien From
now overwhelm the army

Enough of you, they just envy!
After all, everyone knows that Armata is made of plywood, stalls every 100 meters, and, in general, is drawn at the Soyuzmultfilm studio.

So, Sergey, in general, the inner part of the Armata is classified, but so be it, I will take responsibility to show ... outside and inside

[Dude]

The chatterbox is a godsend for a spy! Well, why did you upload the chipboard photos of the interior?

[Terenin]

Quote: Dude

The chatterbox is a godsend for a spy! Well, why did you upload the chipboard photos of the interior?

You can't catch up with me. I run to the Canadian border

[A009]

Can you choose the interior color scheme?

[Albert1988]

Quote: A009

Can you choose the interior color scheme?

On the first serial samples - alas, no, this is how it will go into production - so each company can choose the upholstery of the crib and the color of the wallpaper to taste)))) True, they say, there is only one type of toilet in the toilet, but you can also choose different colors!

[Alf]

Quote: Terenin

41 contracts were signed for the supply and modernization of military equipment to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with a total amount of over 1,16 trillion rubles.

And what does this contract say about the number of purchased T-14s?

[alpamys]

secrecy, but then in the distant 2008th they came to Germany with a request to make a transmission for a new tank and posted all the performance characteristics ??

[Pessimist22]

Share information f

[alpamys]

Quote: Pessimist22

Share information f

Yes, then both Russian and German sites wrote about this.
As Rudolf Abel said, 95% of classified information can be obtained from newspapers, you just need to read them correctly.

[Dude]

Quote: Pessimist22

Share information f

I join the request!

[lucul]

secrecy, but then in the distant 2008th they came to Germany with a request to make a transmission for a new tank and posted all the performance characteristics ??

Another - "you can believe me, I am a Crimean officer's daughter" ....)))

[alpamys]

Quote: lucul

secrecy, but then in the distant 2008th they came to Germany with a request to make a transmission for a new tank and posted all the performance characteristics ??

Another - "you can believe me, I am a Crimean officer's daughter" ....)))

yes, believe me or not, the delegation was large.

[Albert1988]

Quote: alpamys

yes, believe me or not, the delegation was large.

Do gentlemen take the word?

[Alf]

Quote: alpamys

yes, believe me or not, the delegation was large.

And I was there, drinking honey beer.
It flowed down the mustache, didn't get into the mouth ...

[Wwk7260]

horror, what a secret, modern photographic equipment with an accuracy of a centimeter can determine its dimensions.

[Yrec]

Well, well, interesting. If the length of the T-14 fits on a standard railway platform, then the width does not. Because the platform width is 2760 mm. For transportation, you will have to remove the side screens, otherwise the GBS (the size of the approach of buildings) will not fit. The very first exercise with a transfer to the railway will show that the standards for the preparation of the T-14 for the transfer will have to be revised.

[Dude]

For transportation, you will have to remove the side screens, otherwise the GBS (the size of the approach of buildings) will not fit. The very first exercise with a transfer to the railway will show that the standards for the preparation of the T-14 for the transfer will have to be revised.

In the "zero" dimension perfectly passes, NNP, and all highways and roadways, have long been sharpened under it. So I don't think there will be any shipping problem.

[uav80]

3820 is the width across the side screens, the track, respectively, is narrower ...
The same T-90 on track 3370, along the centers of 2790, otherwise the screens are 3780, respectively, and it also goes beyond the dimensions of the platform, but how are they transported. The same platform 13-4012 has a width of 2870 without boards ...

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Yrec

For transportation, you will have to remove the side screens,

And without the T-14 screens it will be even prettier:

[Center]

[Albert1988]

Prettier not prettier. but more brutal for sure, although the security of the sides goes to ...

[Aeshken]

Removing the sides of the platform is not a problem at all, and the combat manuals must be adjusted to the concept of application, which just changes with the adoption of new types of weapons. It was always like this, over there in Nazi Germany, with the adoption of the MP43 \ 44 aka StG44 (Sturmgever), the tactics of infantry combat had to be changed - since the actual (really effective) combat distance increased compared to the pistol-machine guns chambered for 9x19. StG - 7,92x33mm intermediate.

[L-39NG]

I do not quite understand the need for a "sighting" machine gun with such observation devices and sights, which, according to the developers, should be on "ARMATA". You yourself know what the flight path of a 7,62 mm bullet is, when shooting, for example, at 2000 meters, plus side wind and shooting in motion. That way, you can put a "sighting" machine gun on the "Rapier". Saving projectiles for "soft" targets? So after all, without infantry escort or without air cover, sending a tank into battle is not very smart, and, in addition, there is an all-azimuth defense machine gun with remote control. Explain the meaning.

[Albert1988]

Quote: L-39NG

I do not quite understand the need for a "sighting" machine gun with such observation devices and sights, which, according to the developers, should be on "ARMATA".

About sighting is most likely a zhurnlyug myth, and the military, just out of old habit, asked to put a coaxial machine gun for the possibility of additional fire on the infantry.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: L-39NG

I do not quite understand the need for a "sighting" machine gun

A machine gun paired with a cannon is found on almost all tanks. But it is used mainly for targets where there is enough bullet, and the projectile is redundant.

[Pavel57]

From the photo, you can determine the dimensions with an accuracy of 5 cm.

[kot423]

Uh-huh. And it is also possible (for example) to add extra 15-30-50cm to the exhibition sample in a circle from polystyrene, paint it in color and then grin at the cries of "partners" like - yes, this is a barn, it is one-armed, one-eyed and drunk in a dupu 5 km The grenade launcher will remove ... And the performance data should be "corrected" in the same way.

[Ascold1901]

I dare to assure you that there is no added plywood or foam)))) I saw this tank as now my keyboard. For some reason, everyone is fixated on the outer dimensions. Is this the Main thing in the Tank? It always seemed to me, a fool, that the main thing in the Tank is Protection, Firepower and Speed)))) One thing consoles - with me ALL the designers of armored vehicles got into the fools since the 30s)))

[Albert1988]

Quote: Ascold1901

One thing consoles - ALL the designers of armored vehicles since the 30s got into the fools with me)))

Do not worry - if the couch fighters consider the enemy doo ... alternatively thinking - this is good - then the couches will soon be on fire!

[kot423]

Yes, I just joked about commentators about "from the photo you can determine the size of a horseshoe on a flea" and "shed 10x10x10 km, everyone is cooler than him."

[Sakmagon]

At the same time, the author claims that a coaxial machine gun appeared at the request of the Ministry of Defense for zeroing.

For sighting what? Have you installed a machine gun to shoot him?
And the weapon is not aimed, but verified (more precisely, its sights). You don't need a machine gun for this

[Alex_You]

Uralvagonzavod has declassified the dimensions of the T-14 Armata tank

Those who wanted to have already counted, there are enough photos on the internet:

[Per se.]

Quote: Alex_You

there are enough photos on the internet

As well as schemes.

[Alex_You]

Ha even so!

[Albert1988]

Quote: Per se.

As well as schemes.

The scheme is fundamentally not correct in terms of AZ - the location of the shells is simply stupidly copied from the old Abrams block-3:

So then believe all sorts of self-painted "schemes"! There, the shells are clearly not unitary, as in the diagram, and the length of the crowbars is 900 mm, so consider whether they fit or not ...

[Vadim237]

On Armata, a mechanical transmission is not a robot!

[Albert1988]

Quote: Vadim237

On Armata, a mechanical transmission is not a robot!

So what? This is, by the way, the most reliable and flexible type of transmission!
And then - if this data is published for a hypothetical export sample - then draw conclusions ...

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

On Armata, a mechanical transmission is not a robot!

Ferrari and Lamborghini also have mechanics. Sucks !!!

[silver_roman]

on modern ones already like machines.

[And why do you need]

At the moment, the most invulnerable tank, because it is in a single copy, it is almost impossible to get into it.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Why do you need

At the moment, the most invulnerable tank, because it is in a single copy, it is almost impossible to get into it.

Oha - and at the parade there are 7 pieces - are there phantom copies or fakes made of cardboard? And about 30-40 more units in the army on testing ground - are they like inflatable?

[L-39NG]

Okay, now let's see, the driver, the tank commander and, I don't know what to call it, the "operator"? "Serve" the "close" and "distant" perimeters around the tank, in three crew members, until they can, they will not have time, they rely on AI, very early. In short, according to Stanislavsky - "I don't believe!"

[Albert1988]

Quote: L-39NG

"Serve" the "close" and "distant" perimeters around the tank, in three crew members, until they can, they will not have time, they rely on AI, very early. In short, according to Stanislavsky - "I don't believe!"

Dear, how do the same 3 crew members manage to do this in the same T-90/80/72?

[Alf]

Quote: Albert1988

Quote: L-39NG

"Serve" the "close" and "distant" perimeters around the tank, in three crew members, until they can, they will not have time, they rely on AI, very early. In short, according to Stanislavsky - "I don't believe!"

Dear, how do the same 3 crew members manage to do this in the same T-90/80/72?

And they do not know that this is impossible.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Alf

And they do not know that this is impossible.

So maybe they won't know on the T-14 either?

[silver_roman]

manual transmission?
it seems like there was a machine gun

[Albert1988]

Quote: silver_roman

manual transmission?
it seems like there was a machine gun

It is possible that this is for the export version.

[fa2998]

Quote: Doccor18

Export contracts on the bow ...

Who will buy a tank that has not yet completed the tests, if NONE is in the army. There is no operating experience, and the warriors will present their claims in a year. They will take into account, change. And the layout of the tank is not at all classical, this is not a model of a well-known popular tank.

[Albert1988]

Quote: fa2998

Who will buy a tank that has not yet completed the tests, if NONE is in the army. There is no operating experience, and the warriors will present their claims in a year. They will take into account, change. And the layout of the tank is not at all classical, this is not a model of a well-known popular tank.

It is logical to assume that at first he will be chased by our troops, and then the "outsiders" will start buying it ...

[Baron pardus]

All these whistles with the Armata, with the Su-57, with all these "new projects", very much remind me of 30 years. Tupolev, Taubin, Kurchatovsky and a bunch of other "geniuses". Projects - dofiga. Zababahano money - a lot. At the exit - PSHIK. A bunch of "wunderwaffe projects", in a series - horseradish and butter. Look at the "new AK-12" and the difference, except for the body kit from the AK74M - zero. I am NOT saying that the projects are bad. But if there is nothing in the SERIES, then there is no weapon either. They are fighting, just in case, not by "projects" which, as Shirokorad colorfully described, "worked at the factory proving grounds, and categorically refused to work at army trials." You can talk as much as you like about whether the F-35 or F-22 sucks, but it IS, and flies, and in the series. And the Su-57 is not in the series. You can say as much as you like how good or bad the Abrams, Bradley and others like them are, you can make fun of Leclerc, Challenger, with the new 130 and 140mm guns, but they ARE in the series, or at least passed the tests (Cannons) but Armata and Kurganets I don't see in the series. All this whistle very much reminds me of the situation in the 30s, that there are projects, and as long as the NKVD does not take on them, nothing works (remember, rocket artillery). So while the "genius creators" will not be asked "Why, your product itself does not go into the series, stops at parades and sits without radars and engines. Why the cost of the ship is huge and the combat efficiency is lower than that of Oliver X Perry", or Spruens 30 years ago, nothing will happen. Why can't a submarine be as quiet as Seawulf and Los Angeles? Why the acoustics did not reach the level of American, British, French and Japanese. Until they ASK "Where is the loot and where is the result" There is simply no sense.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Baron Pardus

All these dances with the Armata, with the Su-57, with all these "new projects", very much remind me of 30 years.

Well, you are absolutely WRONG! There is only one similarity - this is a situation when the army is in dire need of new weapons. It's all. Because in the 30s, no one yet knew exactly what was needed and how it should look, from that they were pushed back and forth. Now everything is clear - very specific things are needed - a new MBT / universal platform for heavy tracked vehicles (armata), a new medium BMP (Kurganets), a new heavy fighter (Su-57), etc. As for the large number of projects - so forgive them, since the 90s, a cloud! Only now, not so many new developments are receiving real funding - in BTT these are armata, kurganets and truncated ... The rest is just variations on the modernization of existing samples.

Quote: Baron Pardus

Shirokorad colorfully described "they worked at the factory proving grounds, and categorically refused to work at army trials"

I advise Shirokorada to read less - he has a lot of emotions and little meaning ...

Quote: Baron Pardus

You can talk as much as you like about whether the F-35 or F-22 sucks, but it IS, and flies, and in the series.

The F-22 is no longer only in the series and flies (and "hryapa", by the way, is a great car!), It has long been removed from production! And the F-35 was taken into series - so this is a purely commercial project, it is profitable to bake a lot of imperfections there - the customer has a lot of money - he will pay for all the developers' shoals). We don’t have that much money, so we have to lick it first, and then in the series. The same armats are already in production - the first series for testing - about 40 pieces, and another 140 - already the first series directly for arming military units and trial operation.

Quote: Baron Pardus

You can say as much as you like how good or bad Abrams, Bradley and others like them are

So the T-90 and BMP-3 - analogs of those very "Bradleys" and "Abrash" - in the series and for a long time, all sorts of armata - this is the next step)

Quote: Baron Pardus

you can make fun of Leclerc, Challenger, new 130 and 140mm guns, but they ARE in the series

Alas and ah - I will grieve you, but the vehicles with 130-mm and 140-mm guns you have designated in the series are completely absent from the word! There is 1 prototype each and fate still hangs in the balance (for the challenger so for sure).

Quote: Baron Pardus

So while the "genius creators" will not be asked

I will disappoint you here too - they ask and they ask very well. But for asking questions, it is also necessary to scrape off the industry from rust, and in some places and generally rebuild from scratch! It's generally a miracle that we can build something and develop something after what happened in the 90s!

[philosopher]

Explain why two machine guns and both 7,62 mm !?
It seems to be explained by the fact that the machine gun will be used to shoot down slowly flying anti-tank missiles. I'm just not sure that the characteristics of the PCMT are suitable for this.