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How Solzhenitsyn Equipped Russia from Overseas

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How Solzhenitsyn Equipped Russia from Overseas

An article by one of the leading figures of the Russian dissident movement, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, "How We Can Equip Russia" was published on September 18, 1990. It was sold in millions of copies throughout the Soviet Union, which at that time had nothing left to exist. And not least thanks to the "Vermont Hermit" and his ideological followers. Today, three decades later, we can reasonably judge what this work was: a work of genius or another portion of good intentions, which became another section on the road leading to a well-known address.


The Nobel laureate himself saw his own essay as a programmatic document, which was simply necessary to follow. According to Solzhenitsyn's own assertion, from across the ocean he offered the authorities "a nationally salvific, and a carefully developed program for the state." It is difficult to understand how one can call a “program”, and even “carefully designed”, a set of bilious accusations, common phrases and beautiful-minded dreams. And is it possible in general to "equip" anything, to judge something, and even more so to try to decide the fate of millions from overseas? Is this consistent with those "high moral principles and foundations" for which the author so advocated?

Nevertheless, he was heard, and how. General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee Mikhail Gorbachev, who at that time headed the party and the country, which Solzhenitsyn declared in his work the focus of world evil, devoted his speech to him in the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. Writers and philosophers, scientists and artists, a great many people throughout the vast country read the lines about the "arrangement of Russia" as a kind of revelation, discussed, argued about them, wrote reviews, tried to develop or refute the ideas presented in the article. And then they began to implement them ... It cannot be said that it was the article mentioned (or even Solzhenitsyn's work in general) that became the spiritual basis of the destructive "perestroika". But one of the cornerstones is undoubtedly.

Years later, one of the historians called that Solzhenitsyn's essay "a publicistic monument to the illusions of that time." In general, this is probably true. The trouble is in two things: firstly, these very illusions, which have captured the minds of millions of people, have destroyed too much. Country, future, destiny, life ... Secondly, on the most elementary lie, if not all of the thoughts and ideas presented in the article about "arrangement", then their absolute majority were based. “The entire XX century has been severely lost by our country; the achievements that were trumpeted are all imaginary ... ”Is there even a word of truth here?

In principle, how can one take on faith the revelations of someone who calls the Great Patriotic War not only "self-destructive", but also "ineptly conducted"? Moreover, he asserts at the same time that "we have packed 30 million, ten times thicker than the enemy, and have only established despotism over ourselves." Lies! After all, from the very first to the last word - an unparalleled lie, both in numbers and in essence. The military losses of the USSR and Germany are approximately equal, and if we also take into account the satellites of the Third Reich, they are completely incomparable. The rest is civilian casualties. So what do you mean then "laid down" ?! It turns out that it was not the occupiers who committed terrible crimes on our land, but ourselves? Yes, only after these passages alone we have to admit that the author simply hates both the people and the country, which he calls his own.



All other statements are of the same kind: about the riches of Russia “plundered and taken out of the cordon”, “primitive industry”, destroyed medicine and education, about the “extinction of the Russian people”, a ruined village and abandoned outskirts of the country. All this will really come true, but only after those who will be pushed by Solzhenitsyn and similar subjects to whom Solzhenitsyn and similar subjects pave the way with their false "revelations" and tales of "general prosperity" and a malignant Marxist-Leninist utopia ", in the overthrow of which he saw the first and most important step towards the future" arrangement ".

Overthrown ... And then things began that in 1998 Solzhenitsyn himself gave birth to a new creation, which bore the name "Russia in Collapse". I remember he refused to accept the order from Yeltsin’s hands: they’ve brought the country! However, he did not disdain a luxurious residence from Boris Nikolaevich. So it's definitely not worth calling Solzhenitsyn a "modern holy fool-lover of truth". The blessed are not covetous, not vain and not possessed by such pride as this Nobel laureate, who undertook to show the whole country the way to the “bright future”, and then did not want to take on himself even a grain of responsibility for the nightmare into which this future turned into reality.

I will not, like some, assert that the article on the arrangement of Russia was indeed written by the author in the "beautiful American far away" under the direct dictation of the CIA or the US State Department. However, the right word, when reading some of her passages doubts creep in. Here you will find a synopsis on the collapse of the Soviet Union (the twelve republics must certainly secede!), And a call to stop “blowing out all new, new types of offensive weapons"And build an" all-oceanic military fleet ", and speculations that" space can wait "and it should be" cut off overnight. " As they say, whatever your heart desires. But whose soul?

Who benefited from the practical implementation of the multitude of ideas and proposals outlined in How We Can Equip Russia? This is a question, an honest answer to which will make it possible to judge the true value of this "epoch-making work" and the true essence of its author. Everything that is stated there regarding the economy, social and, moreover, political issues is nothing more than the idle talk of a person who has undertaken to judge and joke about what he does not understand at all. Following this and similar advice, Russia was not equipped, but almost destroyed. And it can be saved only by using such "creations" as a standard of what our country should not follow in any case.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 10 September 2020 18: 08 New
    33
    Russia will not be able to withstand so many foreign settlers laughing
    1. Finches
      Finches 10 September 2020 18: 14 New
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      The conscience of a nation that was supposed to become camp dust, but became a Nobel laureate ... Because, they say, he successfully tapped on the zone, selflessly betraying his comrades, and then successfully sold his homeland! Not without talent, of course, but gennius and villainy are incompatible things, so in the people's memory, no matter how licked by the authorities, Solzhenitsyn will remain evil in the service of the Anglo-Saxons!
      1. Lionnvrsk
        Lionnvrsk 10 September 2020 21: 04 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Solzhenitsyn, will remain evil in the service of the Anglo-Saxons!

        Lzhenitsin he is Lzhenitsin. Even in childhood, when I was 8-10 years old, this surname caused me a latent denial.
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 10 September 2020 21: 58 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Because, they say, he successfully tapped in the zone, selflessly betraying his comrades, and then successfully sold his homeland

        Why do they talk?
        He himself on the pages of his libel, with a hint of Dante's creation, wrote how more than once he went to slaughter the "red" thieves with the right thieves, and after some time - with the red thieves he cut the right ones who did not make a "deal with the authorities."
        Naturally, it was in different camps, otherwise I would not have survived until morning.
        We conclude that the former captain of the artillery reconnaissance was on special account with the camp operators. And they passed it on like a baton.
        The same "storyteller" Varlamka Shalamov, the author of the camp fantasy, spoke impartially about the personality of the Nobel laureate.
        I am still inclined to believe that the "letters to the Motherland" from the front, in which Solzhenitsyn criticized Soviet power with might and main, he did not write out of foolishness, he understood that letters were being lustrated. And why? Probably hoped to get a term "in a small way", to serve in camps with Bandera, policemen and Vlasovites, BUT STAY ALIVE. Indeed, in March 1945, the war was not over yet. And then you want to live.
        But in the zone, godfathers did not eat their bread for nothing. And immediately this topic was groped. And he became "... captain, you will never be a major ..." © and knock, and do everything so that his article is not re-qualified as "treason". Which entailed other, sad consequences.
        1. imobile2008
          imobile2008 13 September 2020 22: 52 New
          -6
          Have not read Solzhenitsyn, but I condemn, all the comments have sunk, Formation of the Unified State Exam. You read at least a couple of books - it's really true, in that era I lived and lived not in Moscow, these are books about the people and their exploits
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 14 September 2020 10: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: imobile2008
            Have not read Solzhenitsyn

            I read the Evan libel as it was published in Novy Mir magazine in 1989.
            Quote: imobile2008
            The formation of the exam. Read at least a couple of books - it's really true

            Yes, my dear, do you really think you are literate? Probably you know all the letters?
            lol
          2. chingachguc
            chingachguc 14 September 2020 21: 19 New
            +1
            From the very first lines of the Archipelago, prisoners are engaged in corpse-eating. After describing the process of defecating a Soviet officer, he could not stand it and gave up. phew ... Solzhenitsyn is a trash, shock, plus a pamphlet. In the spirit of the "Green Elephant". That's all his literary talent.
      3. Inorus
        Inorus 10 September 2020 23: 22 New
        +3
        As for talent, Shalamov accused him of plagiarism.
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 13 September 2020 09: 53 New
          -5
          As for talent, Shalamov accused him of plagiarism.

          This is from envy. Shalamov wrote short stories in the style of Chekhov, and Solzhenitsyn managed to write a systemic novel in the style of Tolstoy.

          In addition, do not forget that Shalamov is an ideological Trotskyist, about which he speaks openly, calling it participation in the "movement."

          And Solzhenitsyn was a Russian officer, a Russian patriot and a Russian nationalist who ended up in the camp after writing a paper describing the horror and stupidity of the methods of warfare.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 14 September 2020 10: 36 New
            +4
            Quote: Arzt
            And Solzhenitsyn was a Russian officer, a Russian patriot and a Russian nationalist who ended up in the camp after writing a paper describing the horror and stupidity of the methods of warfare

            Quote: imobile2008
            these are books about the people and their exploits

            You would agree among yourself - who is this "laureate" ...
            laughing
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 14 September 2020 10: 50 New
              -2
              You would agree among yourself - who is this "laureate" ...

              I'm doing it.

              Solzhenitsin is a Russian officer, Russian patriot and Russian nationalist, who wrote books about the people and their exploits.
      4. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 11 September 2020 06: 11 New
        +5
        This is the prototype of the modern "thinking man" -creakl. They have no idea what a "comrade" or "friend" is. They only have "partners". This pillow thinks in terms of personal gain. Well, maybe even a family one. They only need everything, even if they don't really need it. And the rest can be moved.
      5. Doccor18
        Doccor18 11 September 2020 14: 45 New
        +3
        Not without talent, of course ...

        Of course, you need to be able, both ours and yours ...
      6. Igor Kobernik
        Igor Kobernik 11 September 2020 14: 51 New
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        What "camp dust"? He "sat" as the head of the library (in Vorkuta), and then published the legends about Kolyma, heard from the convicts .... V. T. Shalamov, who went through all the circles of the GULAG hell, including the Kolyma, could not stand him ... He wrote about this openly during the so-called. "perestroika" .... Only his voice turned out to be "a voice crying in the desert" .... I agree with you. .. "Nobel Prize" for Solzhenitsyn is politics, no more ...
      7. avdkrd
        avdkrd 11 September 2020 14: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        Not without talent, of course, but gennius and villainy are incompatible things

        I will dispute both theses - the talent is very dubious, it is very tiresome to read his opuses, the style, to put it mildly, is unreadable, and this is not taking into account the content. Literature is far from Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. Secondly, genius is perfectly compatible with villainy, but Solzhenitsyn is not a villain (and even less a genius), he is a nonentity who believed in his genius, and he was awarded the title of genius in contrast to those Soviet writers who really demonstrated talent, but at the same time did not vilify their country. Obviously, his delirium received a "rebirth" in the wake of Perestroika, when anyone who discredited the Soviet system was in demand. The position of the GDP is very indicative. Solzhenitsyn's inclusion in the school curriculum is also very indicative. Honoring such moral monsters as Solzhenitsyn is, for me personally, compared to honoring Vlasov. Disgusting and disgusting.
      8. Doctor
        Doctor 13 September 2020 09: 48 New
        -2
        The conscience of a nation that was supposed to become camp dust, but became a Nobel laureate ... Because, they say, he successfully tapped on the zone, selflessly betraying his comrades, and then successfully sold his homeland!

        Everything is correct. They just don't talk, he himself honestly admitted in the book that he tapped.

        As for the Motherland, this is a question, because he was forcibly expelled to the FRG.
        After an unsuccessful attempt at ricin poisoning in Novocherkassk, by the way. wink
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 10 September 2020 18: 19 New
      +6
      I will not, like some, assert that the article on the arrangement of Russia was indeed written by the author in the "beautiful American far away" under the direct dictation of the CIA or the US State Department.

      Yes, without a doubt - just under dictation! yes
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 10 September 2020 23: 07 New
        +3
        But what is Andropov's role in Soviet dissidence?
    3. Civil
      Civil 10 September 2020 21: 18 New
      -2
      So that's who is to blame ...
    4. businessv
      businessv 10 September 2020 22: 27 New
      +8
      Quote: Wend
      Russia will not be able to withstand so many foreign settlers

      I foolishly first scribbled my post, and then I started reading yours, dear colleagues! Now I will try to read first! We are all so unanimous in our assessments of the activities of this "miracle" with such an iconic surname that today I will go to bed surprised, but sleep well! Friends, God bless you all! good drinks
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 10 September 2020 18: 13 New
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    Voinovich, neighing excellently at Solzhenitsin in the novel Moscow -2020 and at his ideas, creativity ... although he himself is of the same field of berries ...
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 18: 45 New
      -3
      Quote: parusnik
      same field berry

      I agree ...
      But Chonkin, like reading stuff in the subway, is super :-)
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 10 September 2020 19: 20 New
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        Is that in the subway smile For me, a one-off thing ... opportunistic ... A collection of anti-Soviet tales and anecdotes ... does not reach Schweik ... I read it, it was printed in "Yunost" in Soviet times, it seems at the dawn of perestroika, it caused a contradictory impression ... Already later in the mid-90 -x, friends gave Voinovich's PSS, tried to re-read Chonkin ... it became boring ... in the middle he dropped it ...
        1. Adam Khomich
          Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 19: 36 New
          +5
          Quote: parusnik
          I read it, in Soviet times

          I also read at the same time ... Only in the Banner magazine ...
          Do you know who was the chief editor at that time?
          Believe it or not :-) In the 1990s, the magazine received a grant from the Uncle Soros Foundation: -) .... and in January 2010 the magazine's literary prize was awarded to Mikhail Khodorkovsky. And he became the same shit as Youth with its chief editor. In a word - you need to read skillfully :-)
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 10 September 2020 19: 54 New
        +9
        If he wrote this opus about the Israeli soldier Chonkind, and published a scribble in Israel, what would be left of this scribe? And so, Chonkin is a collection of famous anecdotes that were told for free, and Voinovich collected them and earned money.
        1. Adam Khomich
          Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 20: 10 New
          -1
          Quote: Aviator_
          If he wrote this opus about an Israeli soldier

          We read all sorts of jokes ... Neighed and immediately forgot ...
          And only they managed to make money on this, publishing and accumulating it in all the media. I was personally acquainted with Alexander Ivanov, Grigory Gorin and Georgy Yumatov, and many other famous people. Together we had fermented in the courtyard of 62 on Leningradsky Prospekt and at the monument to Telman. And what of it?
          They were all respected people! They would be taught at school, and not this nonentity.
  3. antivirus
    antivirus 10 September 2020 18: 19 New
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    I remember, a nationalist and chauvinist .. participated in the collapse of the country.
    exclude from the school program.
    the war with the dead in literature must be won by Tolstoy and Prishvin with Paustovsky (?)
    1. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 39 New
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      Quote: antivirus
      the war with the dead in literature must be won by Tolstoy and Prishvin with Paustovsky (?)

      Why a question mark? All the writers you cite are great writers.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 13 September 2020 08: 39 New
        -1
        Why a question mark? All the writers you cite are great writers.

        Of course the Greats. And like all greats - dissidents. laughing

        Tolstoy was excommunicated, Prishvin was in prison, Paustovsky is generally a Pole and a descendant of Sagaidachny, he began serving with Hetman Skoropadsky and Makhno, and in 1965 he signed a letter with a request to provide A.I. Solzhenitsyn with an apartment in Moscow, and in 1967 he supported A. Solzhenitsyn , who wrote a letter to the IV Congress of Soviet Writers demanding the abolition of the censorship of literary works. wink
  4. Dizel200
    Dizel200 10 September 2020 18: 22 New
    +2
    Is Solzhenitsyn a Jew?
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 September 2020 19: 38 New
      +9
      Quote: Dizel200
      Is Solzhenitsyn a Jew?

      If I had not been a Jew, I would not have changed my paternal patronymic Isaakovich to Isaevich. And I would not devote to them my book Two Hundred Years Together, about Russian-Jewish relations in Russia between 1795 and 1995, and even in two volumes. He was so interested in this topic.
    2. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 40 New
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      Quote: Dizel200
      Is Solzhenitsyn a Jew?

      request The official biography indicates that the father is a Russian peasant (wealthy) Isaac, the mother is a Ukrainian from the Kuban (also from the wealthy) ...
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 13 September 2020 08: 44 New
      +1
      Is Solzhenitsyn a Jew?

      Solzhenitsin is a Russian nationalist. It was customary for Russian peasants to give biblical names.
  5. apro
    apro 10 September 2020 18: 22 New
    +4
    Solzhenitsyn is a completely Russian project of an educated teligent ... with his thoughts and dreams ... you need to talk well ... for the truth ... for a child's tear ... and then you look and it will improve itself and don't forget about God and our Orthodox church.
    And the people as they love. That he would have a good master.
  6. infantry76
    infantry76 10 September 2020 18: 24 New
    10
    Well, certainly not a prophet in his homeland!
    IMHO! I have the honor! soldier
    1. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 41 New
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      Quote: infantry76
      Well, certainly not a prophet in his homeland!

      Solzhenitsyn Judas. It is simply not possible to call it otherwise. For me, Solzhenitsyn is an enemy of the people.
  7. paul3390
    paul3390 10 September 2020 18: 28 New
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    A stunning example of an extremely mediocre paper-maker and a pathological liar, erected in Putin's Russia almost to the level of Leo Tolstoy .. Such terrible squalor - and to teach in schools! Darkness..
    1. lelik613
      lelik613 10 September 2020 18: 39 New
      14
      I will repeat my opinion about the writer: Solzhenitsyn sits his brain like a fly on a light bulb.
      1. Yngvar
        Yngvar 11 September 2020 08: 21 New
        +1
        As M.N. Zadornov: "The surname reflects the essence of a person ..." Isaevich (Isaakovich) - "truth-bearer"?
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 10 September 2020 18: 42 New
      13
      Lilliputians from Lilliputian, made Gulliver ... At the same time, not a single Lilliputian was hurt .. smile
    3. Finches
      Finches 10 September 2020 18: 51 New
      -6
      In your commentary, the main word is "Putin", today it is selling well, even on VO the good Samaritans will instruct the plus signs ... But I want to argue, this is my Russia too, my friends and my children! There is no need to pose as the same Solzhenitsin, only within the framework of one site, he also "fought" against the "bloody" regime all his life ... laughing
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 10 September 2020 18: 54 New
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        Well, in Soviet Russia, in my Motherland, such an eel is not like a writer - they were not considered a decent person. And they did the right thing. But in yours, Putin's, they made an idol out of him. So - as it comes around, so will ... If this is your Russia, I can only sympathize ..
        1. Finches
          Finches 10 September 2020 19: 03 New
          -9
          Bortsun laughing
          You have already ruined my Motherland once, together with this Solzhenitsyn, but today there are a lot of sorrows, I will not allow this to be done!
          1. tatra
            tatra 10 September 2020 19: 53 New
            +8
            It was YOU who ruined the one who imposed on Russia and its people this Yeltsin-Putin regime, and who, since 1991, has voted for it, and crucified before the supporters of the USSR, how is it wonderful for you to live with this power.
            1. Finches
              Finches 10 September 2020 20: 04 New
              0
              Personally, since 1996, I have not voted for anyone at all, in 1996 I voted for Zyuganov, who sold everyone - that's when I got my sight! And you are just a bawler - and no more! But I take it calmly - the Internet was invented for bawlers, who in real life cannot do anything, but on the Internet they tear a shirt on their chest from morning to evening ... I respect GDP for what he did to the country after the humiliating 90 -x, yes, he has a bunch of mistakes, etc., but I don't feel such humiliation as under Gorbachev-Yeltsin, since 1999, as I experienced in 1994 ... You probably won't understand this! hi
              1. tatra
                tatra 10 September 2020 20: 08 New
                +7
                Ha, that's right, the enemies of the communists are egoists, everyone is only for himself. They are not able to defend each other, what they did together, they are united only in their cowardice and rage against everything Soviet, because it is beneficial for all of them to justify their crimes in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods, to capture and dismember the USSR.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 10 September 2020 20: 11 New
                  -5
                  Today in Russia there are no communists - there are opportunists who mow under the friends of the people, but are no different from the ruling EP, but the EP has already stolen - and modern "communists" are not yet ... You cannot make a revolution in real life, do not wave cardboard sabers on the Internet !
                  1. tatra
                    tatra 10 September 2020 20: 15 New
                    +5
                    Ha, ... here, thanks for confirming my words. For all the accusations against the enemies of the Communists, none of them is capable of defending them. All are equally rushing to grudge against the communists and their supporters. And with all this, they also seriously imagined that more than the communists and their supporters are worthy to rule the country.
                2. Cottodraton
                  Cottodraton 11 September 2020 06: 28 New
                  +3
                  The communists are their own enemies ... how much is left of them? Let's admit that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has died as a party and is now nothing more than a franchise for all sorts of freaks, in some places diluted by old people of a very old age, fleeing from the past.
                  I myself have more communist views, but what the current "communists" are like is a disgrace ... At one time I came out of there, completely disappointed ...
          2. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 10 September 2020 19: 55 New
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            Quote: Finches
            You have already ruined my Motherland once, together with this Solzhenitsyn, but today there are a lot of sorrows, I will not allow this to be done!

            Calling Paul a "little mercap" is, to say the least, incorrect. But in my opinion, you are deliberately engaged in the substitution of concepts.
            1. Finches
              Finches 10 September 2020 20: 05 New
              +1
              I successfully respond to the comment - Soviet Russia is in general a term used by emigrants and enemies, we used to say here, I am a citizen of the Soviet Union! hi
              1. Motorist
                Motorist 12 September 2020 00: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: Finches
                Soviet Russia is generally a term used by emigrants and enemies

                The newspaper was like that during the Soviet Union. The circulation is very large. So, Eugene, you have a contradictory association.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 12 September 2020 06: 51 New
                  +1
                  What is ... This newspaper still exists, but I will tell you one thing "only you, please do not be offended" - it appeared exactly after the XX Party Congress ... And here I am plagued by vague doubts, are not these links in the same chain - Khrushchev's corrupt policy, in this case, on the information field? An easy equivocal to separatism? But the collapse of the USSR just started with all this!
        2. Adam Khomich
          Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 19: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: paul3390
          in yours, Putin's - they made an idol out of him

          Do not generalize, pzhsta.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 10 September 2020 19: 36 New
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            Quote: Adam Khomich
            Do not generalize, pzhsta.

            Is this in the USSR Solzhenitsyn was studied at school? No, it is being studied in Yeltsin-Putin's Russia.
            1. Finches
              Finches 10 September 2020 20: 07 New
              -8
              The forces that came to power in the 90s and which you are now waving are stronger than Putin - he, because you are not a tyrant, is an ordinary, albeit high-ranking official, but you attribute to him things that, unfortunately, he has not yet achieved ... ...
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 10 September 2020 20: 17 New
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                Quote: Finches
                The forces that came to power in the 90s and which you are now waving are stronger than Putin - he, because you are not a tyrant, is an ordinary, albeit high-ranking official, but you attribute to him things that, unfortunately, he has not yet achieved ... ...

                The forces that came to power in the 90s and nominated Putin, it is on the guard of their interests that our present state, headed by Putin, stands. You are absolutely right Putin is a high-ranking official serving the interests of the collective Chubais, Potanin and other "privatizers".
                1. Finches
                  Finches 10 September 2020 20: 20 New
                  -12
                  Would you come to power and shoot them all? Stalin, in completely different situations, cleaned the enemies of the people until his death, but nothing happened - Khrushchev came to power, and only in 1933 he cleaned up more or less someone from the top! And here the situation is generally different, but, thank God, the country is not being pulled apart piece by piece, as under Yeltsin!
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 10 September 2020 20: 46 New
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                    Quote: Finches
                    Would you come to power and shoot them all?

                    What a simple way out you suggest.
                    Quote: Finches
                    Stalin, in completely different hands, cleaned the enemies of the people until his death, but nothing came of it

                    You understand Stalin's internal policy in a somewhat simplified way. By the way, as far as I remember, in percentage terms, the number of those executed and repressed in the Stalinist USSR did not exceed the number of those imprisoned and killed by a court verdict in the United States of those years. And this despite the obvious excesses of Yezhov and Yagoda.
                    Quote: Finches
                    And here the situation is generally different, but, thank God, the country is not being pulled apart piece by piece, as under Yeltsin!

                    So far they are not being pulled apart, but the centrifugal processes have not gone anywhere, the interests of the small-town bourgeoisie do not coincide with the interests of the central government. Khabarovsk is a vivid example of this.
                2. Cottodraton
                  Cottodraton 11 September 2020 06: 31 New
                  -1
                  Judging by the attempts of various liberal purees to shake the situation, not quite guarding their interests ... although he does not risk going into confrontation with them
    4. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 41 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      A stunning example of the utterly incompetent scribble and pathological liar

      And this is also the most harmless definition of this trait.
  8. Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 18: 38 New
    +9
    I live at the location of the concentration camp (the village of Vladykino), where the prisoner was a liar Nitsin (in his words). In this camp, there were mainly captured Germans. For what it was in this camp, I still have not entered.
    1. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 48 New
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      Quote: Adam Khomich
      For what it was in this camp, I still have not entered

      There are many unclear things in history. Solzhenitsyn himself says that he was swept away for anti-Stalinist curses. But here's what is interesting: from the speeches of Simonyan (a classmate of Solzhenitsyn) and Vitkevich, one can learn that during the investigation he turned everyone in it is not clear why he is walking free, "and his wife N. Reshetovskaya, and school friend L. Ezherets, and even a random fellow traveler on the train, a certain sailor Vlasov. True, only Vitkevich was imprisoned.
      Solzhenitsyn in one of his interviews, given in 1992, even expressed regret that the investigation was carried out so negligently, because if desired, according to his notes, "it was possible to count everyone, you can put 5 more people, jokingly, from our division. Well, the investigator is too lazy to read. , fool. " In general, for me, Solzhenitsyn is a snitch and an enemy of the people.
      Why with captured Germans request
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 11 September 2020 06: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: solzh
        Why with captured Germans

        So I ask myself this question!
        The Germans were definitely there and were rebuilding Moscow. Prospekt Mira and courtyards + some part of Yaroslavka was built by them. Why is this laureate lying without blinking his countersinks?
  9. ccsr
    ccsr 10 September 2020 18: 41 New
    20
    Years later, one of the historians called that Solzhenitsyn's essay "a publicistic monument to the illusions of that time."

    I read carefully this creation of Solzhenitsyn immediately after its appearance, and I can say that it was a collection of manilovism with an admixture of philosophicalism of a person who thought that he knew our people best of all and had the right to indicate what he needed. I think that this was a person with a flawed psyche, whom our people did not take for an apostle, and in the West, by and large, no one was interested in him. And no matter how now they try to promote his work, creating funds and prizes, but Shalamov's opinion about his most famous book is known, and this is a verdict to everything he wrote.
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 18: 52 New
      +8
      Quote: ccsr
      handicapped person

      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye !!!
    2. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 10 September 2020 18: 53 New
      23
      The activity of Solzhenitsyn is the activity of a businessman, aimed narrowly at personal success with all the provocative accessories of such an activity ... Solzhenitsyn's secret lies in the fact that he is a hopeless poetic graphomaniac with the corresponding mental warehouse of this terrible disease, who has created a huge amount of unusable poetic production that never and nowhere you can show, print. All his prose, from Ivan Denisovich to Matryona's Dvor, was only a thousandth part in a sea of ​​poetic rubbish. His friends, representatives of "progressive humanity", on behalf of whom he spoke, when I conveyed to them my bitter disappointment in his abilities, saying: "There is more talent in one of Pasternak's fingers than in all novels, plays, screenplays, short stories and novellas, and poems by Solzhenitsyn ", - they answered me like this:" How? Does he have poetry? ”After numerous conversations with S / olzhenitsyn / I feel robbed, not enriched.

      Varlam Shalamov about SofalseNitsyn
      (from notebooks)
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 19: 45 New
        -1
        Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
        Varlam Shalamov on Solzhenitsyn

        Deer and shalashovka :-)
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 10 September 2020 19: 30 New
      +8
      Once I tried to read Solzhenitsyn. It didn't work. Too an amateur. Moreover, the amateur is a pervert. So that everything would be gloomy, dirty, cruel and the NKVD / commissars must be the main ones in all this.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 13 September 2020 09: 31 New
        +1
        Once I tried to read Solzhenitsyn. It didn't work.

        Yes, it's difficult with him. It should be read like Tolstoy - thoughtfully, with a pencil in hand.
        He is the Tolstoy of the Stalin era, Leo wrote "Sunday" and Alexander wrote "The Archipelago".

        If you want something easier, read Shalamov. He is Chekhov of the Stalin era, he described life in stories, and he could also play around, for example, a very short story - an injector.

    4. beeper
      beeper 10 September 2020 19: 50 New
      10
      hi Also, with my family, they read then, in 1990, immediately after receiving instead of the next issue of the newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda", in the printing house of which this Solzhenitsyn "creation" was published!
      Exactly that fierce manilovism, otherwise you can’t say, such a heap of emigre "democratic" nonsense - I was then surprised that the Soviet government printed this anti-Soviet libel and massively distributed! fool
      It was also written in such a heavy "style", with mannered pseudo "old Russian" dead words and phrases - you read this "writer" -confusedas if wading through a dead forest densely overgrown with rubbish bush with dead wood and rare, rare living trees (very rare words in Solzhenitsyn's vast "streams of consciousness", carrying at least a fraction of the meaning)! negative
      Poor, poor Russian schoolchildren, who now have to teach the "works" of this deceitful and hypocritical "Shnobel" mediocrity according to the curriculum! request
      The very name "How to equip Russia", "thanks to" Solzhenitsyn negative , has become a "household" symbol of a "common human" hypocritical nudge in abyssalas!
    5. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 49 New
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      Quote: ccsr
      in the West, by and large, no one was interested in him

      In the west, he was interesting only as an anti-Soviet and nothing more.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 10 September 2020 18: 43 New
    +7
    The Nobel laureate himself saw

    So what do we see ??? As a Nobel laureate, so a traitor or some other ko / Z \ lische !!!
    There are exceptions, but they are from the sphere of SCIENCE !!! the only way.
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 18: 55 New
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      another ko / z \ lische

      In Belarus, "another Nobel co / XNUMX \ person" :-)
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 September 2020 18: 58 New
        +1
        Well, yes, a former activist ... very much the same, only underrated
        1. Adam Khomich
          Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 19: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          former activist

          :-) Look what Khodorkovsky was like before 1991 :-)
          The sponsor and owner of the bulk was a Komsomol activist (like some corpses - a chicken hole) and was involved in monitoring the collection of pioneer and Komsomol contributions. And this is still millions of those rubles!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 September 2020 19: 49 New
            +1
            So, I just remembered how they tried to level me up when they sent all those activists to hell! And the times were still the USSR, though they were already stagnant, as they like to say now ... all the more, he was admitted to the secret, as it is grit!
            Fortunately, maybe the secretaries helped out, there was a very limited circle of those allowed, they could not replace it right away, and then they sent it very far and tried to forget?
            So I'm non-partisan, I did not betray my oath and my Motherland, unlike members and other activists.
  11. Old partisan
    Old partisan 10 September 2020 18: 52 New
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    Now the son of this builder is in charge of the power industry of Novosibirsk. He then knows how to equip tariffs for Russians.
  12. Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 10 September 2020 18: 56 New
    14
    How is he a nationalist? Whose nationalist is it? Rootless cosmopolitan, informer, liar, anti-Soviet, the earth is glassy
    1. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 49 New
      13
      Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
      Rootless cosmopolitan, informer, liar, anti-Soviet, the earth is glassy

      good A wonderful definition of this enemy of the people hi
  13. tatra
    tatra 10 September 2020 19: 04 New
    0
    There is not a single constant fact in the "ideology" of the enemies of the communists; they evaluate all the facts depending on how beneficial it is for them to justify their capture of the USSR. That's what Solzhenitsyn, that all of them, proved that they do not care about the starving and those who died of hunger, about all those who died in wars, about those who were repressed and executed for political reasons under the Romanovs, but they ALL the same facts with their hypocritical "righteous anger" and "philanthropy" is presented for the crimes of the Soviet government, and when they are caught on double standards, they are moronic in the style of "and if there is less under the Romanovs, then it does not count."
    1. Aag
      Aag 14 September 2020 20: 36 New
      0
      Quote: tatra
      There is not a single constant fact in the "ideology" of the enemies of the communists; they evaluate all the facts depending on how beneficial it is for them to justify their capture of the USSR. That's what Solzhenitsyn, that all of them, proved that they do not care about the starving and those who died of hunger, about all those who died in wars, about those who were repressed and executed for political reasons under the Romanovs, but they ALL the same facts with their hypocritical "righteous anger" and "philanthropy" is presented for the crimes of the Soviet government, and when they are caught on double standards, they are moronic in the style of "and if there is less under the Romanovs, then it does not count."

      Sorry, but the communists are the same ... If you refer Lenin to the communists ... He also built his ideas in accordance with the time frame, the situation.
      Therefore, it seems to me that you are not talking about communists (whether ideological or functionaries), but about People who grew up in the USSR with a certain concept of values ​​and decency; educated, instilled in an understanding of good and evil ... I feel especially sad when the question arises about the viability of such worldviews. And this is happening more and more often, more and more acutely ... recourse
      hi
  14. Nitochkin
    Nitochkin 10 September 2020 19: 35 New
    +4
    Everything you need to know about Solzhenitsyn.
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 10 September 2020 19: 55 New
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    And it can be saved only by using such "creations" as a standard of what our country should not follow in any case.
    But what about the fact that the "creations" of this Shnobelevsky, if I may say so, are included in the school curriculum for study? Who decided that children should study him on a par with Pushkin? winked lol
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 20: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Radikal
      Who decided

      Shariy's videos contain staged endings stylized as a conversation in Stalin's office. I suggest adding your question there :-)
      "Joseph Vissarionovich! Someone has included the" creativity "of a liar in the school curriculum! -" Shoot them on piiiiiiiiii, immediately! "
    2. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 20: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      And what about this

      1. Mat: any ... nude 02.02.2020/06/17 XNUMX:XNUMX
      2. Incitement of the national conflict: psheki 28.08.2020/04/29 XNUMX:XNUMX
    3. solzh
      solzh 10 September 2020 21: 50 New
      11
      Quote: Radikal
      Who decided that children should study him on a par with Pushkin?

      Probably officials in the Ministry of Education ...
  16. Revolver
    Revolver 10 September 2020 20: 31 New
    +1
    All that can be read from him is "One Day in Ivan Denisovich". And even then, if you believe the rumors, it was heavily edited on the subject of stylistics and grammar, either on behalf of Tvardovsky by professionals from his editorial office, or even by Tvardovsky personally. Everything else (well, not everything, but just the "Archipelago"; the rest, according to people, is even less readable) I tried to read, yes, in the new Russian language,niasilil. negative fool
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 12 September 2020 15: 33 New
      0
      Also "Matryonin Dvor".
  17. Egoza
    Egoza 10 September 2020 20: 32 New
    +8
    And I don’t understand at all how millions of people believed this traitor! Betrayed once, betrayed the second! was it really not clear? Someone is shouting about propaganda under the USSR and draconian censorship - ha ha ha! There would really be propaganda, if people had such a consciousness that no one would believe him!
    And it is high time to throw out his opuses from the school curriculum! It would be better if you read "The Story of a Real Man" and "Young Guard"!
    1. Adam Khomich
      Adam Khomich 10 September 2020 20: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      how millions of people believed

      Who believed? What millions are you talking about? Do you consider listeners of "ear of matzo" and admirers of the late woman Lera "millions of people"?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 10 September 2020 20: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: Adam Khomich
        What millions are you talking about

        And you only think of the Russians? This creeping filth influenced both the Ukrainians and the Belarusians, and it went through all the former republics!
    2. tatra
      tatra 10 September 2020 21: 44 New
      -4
      If millions of enemies of the communists believed and still believe in the delusional anti-Soviet myth that Russia fed the whole world to the communists, and it does not even reach them that it is impossible for one country to feed the whole world, then they are ready to believe in any lies, delirium, even that which cannot be at all. Anti-Sovietism is still the same religion, people stupidly, thoughtlessly believe in what they WANT to believe. And under this belief their puppeteers - "shepherds" vparivayut everything that is beneficial to them.
    3. BABAY22
      BABAY22 10 September 2020 23: 03 New
      +9
      By the way, about the attitude of Russians towards Solzhenitsyn.
      During the voting "Great Names of Russia" at the airport in Mineralnye Vody, the name of Solzhenitsyn gained 3% of the vote, Mikhail Lermontov won (89%), in second place was General Ermolov (6%).

      That is, the standard "liberal" 3% as in all elections.
  18. bar
    bar 10 September 2020 21: 25 New
    +4
    The Soviet Union, which at that time had nothing left to exist. And not least thanks to the "Vermont Hermit" and his ideological followers.

    It seems to me that the role of this megalomaniac in the "development" of Russia is greatly exaggerated. It is unlikely that any of the "equipments" of the 90s even read those imperishable Solzhenitsyn opuses, not to mention that they took them seriously.
  19. Valter1364
    Valter1364 10 September 2020 21: 36 New
    +4
    They will remember him for a long time. But the fact that Solzhenitsyn is an enemy of the Russian egregor is an indisputable fact!
  20. businessv
    businessv 10 September 2020 22: 02 New
    +5
    “The entire XX century has been severely lost by our country; the achievements that were trumpeted are all imaginary ... ”Is there even a word of truth here?
    Alexander, thanks! I am ready to subscribe under every word. How can a person with such a last name write truthful things? smile This is ironic, but to be honest, the first thing I read from this author was "One Day in Ivan Denisovich" from Samizdat and was, frankly, disappointed. And when I let my grandfather read it (my family was resettled from the Non-Republic), then if I write his description of the work here, I will be banned for life! Well, when I saw this writer with my own eyes, his irrepressible ambitions, boundless love for himself, ignorance of history and heard rudeness in communication, I did not even try to read anything from him anymore, in view of the sharply negative opinion about him. IMHO, Solzhenitsyn is a small man, with a deep belief that he is a genius! I apologize in advance to his fans, but this is my personal opinion, do not take it personally, please! hi
  21. Dizel200
    Dizel200 10 September 2020 22: 08 New
    +4
    One negative about Solzhenitsyn))) Was there anything good associated with his last name? I do not criticize opinions in any way, I only support them. It's just that almost 100% are against Solzhenitsyn here, and I think the people will be about the same. How did he ascend to Olympus in Russia, is it possible only thanks to those in power? So it turns out that they are either stupid people whom they have circled around their fingers, but ruled the country or the "enemies of the people" themselves?
  22. Radikal
    Radikal 10 September 2020 23: 43 New
    +3
    Quote: Dizel200
    One negative about Solzhenitsyn))) Was there anything good associated with his last name? I am not in any way criticizing opinions, I only support them. It's just that almost 100% are against Solzhenitsyn here, and I think the people will be about the same. How did he ascend to Olympus in Russia, is it possible only thanks to those in power?
    Quite right. Any anti-Soviet, home-grown, or from abroad is their ally and symbol. The guarantor periodically meets with the widow of this tongue-tied graphomaniac with a surprisingly characteristic and precise surname that reflects his inner content. In general, a fisherman is a fisherman .... lol
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 13 September 2020 09: 13 New
      +1
      Quite right. Any anti-Soviet, home-grown, or from abroad is their ally and symbol.

      In Russia, any Great writer is an anti-Soviet.

      Pushkin, Lermontov, Turgenev were in exile, Tolstoy was excommunicated, Bunin died in Paris, Yesenin was drunk and was treated in a fool, Leskov and Saltykov-Shchedrin were censored, Prishvin was in prison, Dostoevsky was generally sentenced to a military medical service, but was replaced for 8 years hard labor. laughing
      1. Aag
        Aag 14 September 2020 20: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Arzt
        Quite right. Any anti-Soviet, home-grown, or from abroad is their ally and symbol.

        In Russia, any Great writer is an anti-Soviet.

        Pushkin, Lermontov, Turgenev were in exile, Tolstoy was excommunicated, Bunin died in Paris, Yesenin was drunk and was treated in a fool, Leskov and Saltykov-Shchedrin were censored, Prishvin was in prison, Dostoevsky was generally sentenced to a military medical service, but was replaced for 8 years hard labor. laughing

        As a supplement and relaxation of the situation, I suggest listening to Timur Shaov "And there are spots on the sun." Sorry, links are not working ...
  23. mister-red
    mister-red 11 September 2020 00: 06 New
    +3
    I remember everyone was waiting for this piece. And his arrival in the country.
    Published, read ... ofigel. A person is generally not in the subject of what is happening with the country, or what to do.
    Well, I arrived when almost no one needed it. And thank God that so, he had nothing to say, although he spoke a lot. Some almost carried him in their arms, as the savior of the Fatherland. In my heart I am pleased that I was not such an idiot. Although they believed in many nonsense then.
  24. shinobi
    shinobi 11 September 2020 03: 35 New
    +2
    One word, very capacious, for such! Traitor! And it doesn't matter for what reasons he sold his homeland.
  25. Iskazi
    Iskazi 11 September 2020 04: 04 New
    +2
    Of course, Russia needs to be equipped, but not according to Solzhenitsyn's lies.
  26. Tarasios
    Tarasios 11 September 2020 08: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    The conscience of a nation that was supposed to become camp dust, but became a Nobel laureate ... Because, they say, he successfully tapped on the zone, selflessly betraying his comrades, and then successfully sold his homeland! Not without talent, of course, but gennius and villainy are incompatible things, so in the people's memory, no matter how licked by the authorities, Solzhenitsyn will remain evil in the service of the Anglo-Saxons!

    Yes, this "Nobel Prize" has long been the official recognition of rot, alas.
    Mikhail Gorbachev
    Barack Obama
    Solzhenitsyn.
    They plan to "foist" on Trump this award ...
    The best people on the planet, what)
  27. Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 11 September 2020 09: 45 New
    +2
    I remember sitting in Vermont this "equip" in all seriousness offered to use nuclear weapons against the USSR.
  28. VLR
    VLR 11 September 2020 12: 44 New
    +6
    Solzhenitsyn is a falsifier and a compiler without even a shadow of literary talent. His texts are simply impossible to read, the syllable is terrible and archaic, the impression is that he is pulling words out of a chest filled with mothballs. It is better not to remember the historical component, lying with a smart look and not blushing. And this graphomaniac is studied in Russian schools as a classic - along with Tolstoy and Pushkin. Not even children, but young people at the age when they want to love their Motherland. And they spit in their souls with Solzhenitsyn's scribbles, assuring them that there is nothing to love about such a homeland. And then they wonder where the "onizhedeti" at Bolotnaya come from. Putin can talk a lot about patriotism, but as long as Yeltsin is a center in Yekaterinburg and no official adequate assessment has been given to Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Sobchak and other state criminals, while Putin's former boss Chubais is prospering, while our children are studying Solzhenitsyn in schools, all his words are False.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 13 September 2020 10: 41 New
      0
      And this graphomaniac is studied in Russian schools as a classic - along with Tolstoy and Pushkin. Not even children, but young people at the age when they want to love their Motherland. And they spit in their souls with Solzhenitsyn's scribbles, assuring them that there is nothing to love about such a homeland. And then they wonder where the "onizhedeti" at Bolotnaya come from.


      Do you think Pushkin is better? laughing

      Alas! wherever I cast my eyes -
      Everywhere whips, everywhere glands,
      The laws of the wicked shame
      Capturing weak tears;
      Everywhere unjust power
      In the thickened gloom of prejudice
      Vossela - Slavery formidable Genius
      And Glory fatal passion.

      The most arrogant villain!
      You, I hate your throne,
      Your death, the death of children
      I see it with cruel joy.
      Read on your brow
      The seal of the curse peoples,
      You are the horror of the world, the shame of nature,
      You reproach to the god on the earth.

      And today learn, O kings:
      No punishment, no reward
      No dungeon shelter, no altars
      Fences that are not right for you.
      Bow first chapter
      Under the reliable shade of the Law,
      And become the eternal guardians of the throne
      The peoples liberty and peace.
  29. TuM0305
    TuM0305 11 September 2020 14: 02 New
    -2
    In general, it also seems clear that at the cost of our exit from
    communism should not be an enslaving distribution to foreign capitalists
    neither our bowels, nor the surface of your earth, nor, especially, forests. it
    the most dangerous idea: what has been ruined by our internal disorder - now
    trying to save through foreign capital. It will flow to us
    when he discovers high profitability for himself. But not
    to lure Western capital to us on terms favorable to it and
    humiliating for us, just come and volodya us - this
    then we cannot fix the termination of the trade, we will turn to the colony. (Although: for
    Soviet three quarters of a century, we slipped to the level of the colony, and what
    is it different? ..) To admit it - in a firm channel: so that the
    economic recovery was not exceeded neither by the profit carried away nor
    the ruin of our natural environment. Then we will speed up our quality
    alignment with developed countries.
    Anyone who speaks negatively about Solzhenizen here has never read it!
    1. TuM0305
      TuM0305 11 September 2020 14: 03 New
      -3
      The pressure of property and self-interest must not be allowed - to social
      evil that destroys the health of society. Anti-monopoly
      legislation is necessary within any type of production
      regulate exorbitant growth with heavily consolidated taxes. Banks -
      are needed as operational centers of financial life, but - do not give them
      turn into usurious outgrowths and become unofficial owners
      all life.
  30. WayKheThuo
    WayKheThuo 11 September 2020 14: 29 New
    +2
    I tried to read the aforementioned article in my youth - I did not go beyond the first page, apparently I did not have enough education horizon to understand all the wisdom of the "great thinker".
    The second attempt was made already at a substantially mature age and after receiving the "upper" technical education, and again - "fatal error". This time after the first two or three paragraphs, because it was sickening to read the complete nonsense of a typical lyricist sitting by a warm battery and demeaning the achievements of other people who, unlike the author, did not tryndel, but actually carried sacks.
    There has not yet been a third attempt, and the author of the article - "respect and respect" - because in order to break through the language quirks of a "thinker", you need to have remarkable persistence.

    As for the reaction of Soviet society to this work - all these endless discussions, disputes, implementation - so the society was worthy of it, right? This means that there were no healthy forces in society that could oppose serious arguments to the stream of irresponsible chatter and, if you do not criticize this opus, for its time it was a real litmus test of the ideological defeat of the USSR.

    I think so.
  31. T-73
    T-73 11 September 2020 22: 46 New
    0
    I will not blaspheme Solzhenitsyn. Man is weak. He's one of those. From officers to onuchi and by stage. There is something to be angry about. But the last thing to do is to water your country de ... not with cologne. Matryonin's yard is strong. but .. what you don't read is bad. Outrageous. Resentment is an incentive.
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    1. Klaus
      Klaus 11 September 2020 23: 34 New
      0
      PS. Roman Skomorokhov is a good writer of letters with his hands on the keyboard. Respect
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  33. faterdom
    faterdom 12 September 2020 00: 18 New
    +4
    The bad news is that this "writer" was included in the school curriculum. As, incidentally, the financing of the Yeltsin Center, Echo of Moscow, Nabiulin with Siluanov and Golikova and Kudrin at the country's economic levers is very bad!
    These are all things of the same order.
    These are even indicators: while everything is in place, it means that no one is going to change anything. Medvedev-Mishustin or some other Fradkov-Zubkov - it's all so ... little things, not the main thing ...
    But Solzhenitsyn in a school textbook is bad. There should be Sholokhov, Tvardovsky, Mayakovsky, Yesenin, Vysotsky - quite a great poet of our era. On the topic of repression there is Shalamov, Volkov - but, IMHO, this is not for school, either a person must find it himself, or a subject for special research.
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 13 September 2020 06: 58 New
      +2
      I completely agree with you, both in content and in essence. I would also add Astafiev to the list. And the cinematic novel "They Fought for the Motherland" would directly take by the scruff of the scruff and put the youths to watch as lessons of history: there is subtle humor and irony and bitterness and pathos ... There the Greats are filmed, who went through the war and felt the war themselves. For me, the authority in such matters is my late grandmother, senior lieutenant of the KGB of the USSR, (my grandfather was a KGB captain, but he did not find him, he died) who, during my youthful youth, invested a lot in my unlucky head, read and told a lot. Her love, as a philologist, was the strict military Lermontov, she always put him above the rake of Pushkin, although Pushkin, of course, was primordial, and influenced Lermontov. But this is lyrics :) She had a very low opinion of Simonov and Gaidar (who is Arkady). She only heard about Solzhenitsyn, and, thank God, did not find the epic of the traitor Suvorov. I had already read it, being in a strong mind and good health. And you know, this feeling of some kind of petty disgust overtakes when reading from the very beginning, and does not let go until the end, eventually forming a specific taste of some kind ... Do I need to read such literature? - I think that it is necessary, but only with a strongly strengthened mind and a sober mind.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 13 September 2020 10: 05 New
        0
        For me, the authority in such matters is my late grandmother, senior lieutenant of the KGB of the USSR, (my grandfather was a KGB captain, but he did not find him, he died) who, during my youthful youth, put a lot into my unlucky head, read and told a lot. Her love, as a philologist, was the strict military Lermontov, she always put him above the rake of Pushkin, although Pushkin, of course, was primordial, and influenced Lermontov.

        This is because your grandparents did not live in the era of Pushkin and Lermontov.
        If they had lived, perhaps they would have determined the places of exile for Pushkin and Lermontov.
        Or maybe they replaced Dostoevsky with a VMN for 8 years in hard labor. wink
      2. Aag
        Aag 14 September 2020 21: 10 New
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        Quote: Klaus
        I completely agree with you, both in content and in essence. I would also add Astafiev to the list. And the cinematic novel "They Fought for the Motherland" would directly take by the scruff of the scruff and put the youths to watch as lessons of history: there is subtle humor and irony and bitterness and pathos ... There the Greats are filmed, who went through the war and felt the war themselves. For me, the authority in such matters is my late grandmother, senior lieutenant of the KGB of the USSR, (my grandfather was a KGB captain, but he did not find him, he died) who, during my youthful youth, invested a lot in my unlucky head, read and told a lot. Her love, as a philologist, was the strict military Lermontov, she always put him above the rake of Pushkin, although Pushkin, of course, was primordial, and influenced Lermontov. But this is lyrics :) She had a very low opinion of Simonov and Gaidar (who is Arkady). She only heard about Solzhenitsyn, and, thank God, did not find the epic of the traitor Suvorov. I had already read it, being in a strong mind and good health. And you know, this feeling of some kind of petty disgust overtakes when reading from the very beginning, and does not let go until the end, eventually forming a specific taste of some kind ... Do I need to read such literature? - I think that it is necessary, but only with a strongly strengthened mind and a sober mind.

        Strong again ...
        I'm only afraid "They fought for the Motherland" young people will not enter. They are the height of patriotism "T-34", "Fighters" ...
        I myself wanted to propose Suvorov as an alternative candidate for discussion. I will not lie, - at first I read with interest. Realization came a little later ... hi
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 13 September 2020 10: 43 New
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      and the topic of repression is Shalamov

      Shalamov, where are you going? He is a staunch Trotskyist, unlike the Russian patriot Solzhenitsin.
      1. Aag
        Aag 14 September 2020 21: 11 New
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        Quote: Arzt
        and the topic of repression is Shalamov

        Shalamov, where are you going? He is a staunch Trotskyist, unlike the Russian patriot Solzhenitsin.

        Are you again ... getting rid of?)))
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 14 September 2020 21: 13 New
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          Are you again ... getting rid of?)))

          Not at all. Shalamov was taken in an underground printing house, and Solzhenitsin in the combat formations of the Army in the field.
          1. Aag
            Aag 14 September 2020 23: 12 New
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            Quote: Arzt
            Are you again ... getting rid of?)))

            Not at all. Shalamov was taken in an underground printing house, and Solzhenitsin in the combat formations of the Army in the field.

            Understood, we'll see ... hi
  34. filalex79
    filalex79 12 September 2020 07: 42 New
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    Scum, this Solzhenitsyn!
  35. sevryuk
    sevryuk 12 September 2020 10: 47 New
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    "Following this and similar advice, Russia was not rebuilt, but almost destroyed."

    I mean, not destroyed? Is RF Russia? And looting is not destruction?
  36. megavolt823
    megavolt823 12 September 2020 11: 50 New
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    Author! There have been many worthy people in the history of Eurasia. World history is full of interesting personalities. Things were much worse in post-war China. And with food, and with prisons and camps. But there is no Chinese false nitsyn. Because the United States did not need it. There are many countries in the world where human rights are simply at zero. Africa as an example, the Arabs today are executed by crucifixion, their hands and heads are chopped off. But there are no Arab false - nitsins. Why? Right ! And they do not need the West and America. So we don't need it. Write better about Vitsin. Yangel. Tupolev. Konev. It will be interesting to read about Donets, Guderian. About Clinton's blowjobs)))) But you don't need to write about Judas. Not interested .
  37. Doctor
    Doctor 12 September 2020 21: 26 New
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    I wonder if somebody read this article here ...
  38. Radikal
    Radikal 13 September 2020 11: 24 New
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    Quote: Arzt
    Quite right. Any anti-Soviet, home-grown, or from abroad is their ally and symbol.

    In Russia, any Great writer is an anti-Soviet.

    Pushkin, Lermontov, Turgenev were in exile, Tolstoy was excommunicated, Bunin died in Paris, Yesenin was drunk and was treated in a fool, Leskov and Saltykov-Shchedrin were censored, Prishvin was in prison, Dostoevsky was generally sentenced to a military medical service, but was replaced for 8 years hard labor. laughing

    All together - is this your style? lol
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 13 September 2020 14: 43 New
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      Dearly dear Lev Nikolaevich, they were excommunicated from the church in general
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 14 September 2020 11: 03 New
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      All together - is this your style?

      Just a statement of fact.

      A writer must raise sensitive topics, otherwise no one is interested in him. And what could be sharper than the relationship between the authorities and the people?

      The fact that the discussion of Solzhenitsyn's article received more than 120 comments is good. So the topic is topical and the writer is relevant.

      The novel "What to do?", Like "The Archipelago", is studied in the school curriculum. If we started discussing it here, there would be no more than a dozen comments.

      Meanwhile, Chernyshevsky wrote it while in the solitary cell of the Alekseevsky Ravelin of the Peter and Paul Fortress. wink
  39. faterdom
    faterdom 13 September 2020 16: 34 New
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    Quote: Arzt
    and the topic of repression is Shalamov

    Shalamov, where are you going? He is a staunch Trotskyist, unlike the Russian patriot Solzhenitsin.

    From there. I'm not talking about his convictions, but about the fact that he honestly describes what he has experienced, and does not compile stories, rumors and fictions, like Solzhenitsyn. And I repeat once again: both are not for the school curriculum, but for those who are interested in these questions for personal or professional reasons. And the Russian patriot is a broad concept, and sometimes these patriots are perpendicular to each other ...
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 13 September 2020 19: 37 New
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      And here's the thing ... And Solzhenitsyn has his own truth, just like Shalamov, and Astafiev, and Nikulin ... Solonin digs this truth in the archives, and Solzhenitsyn from memory ... Simonov's war and war Astafieva is very different
      1. Klaus
        Klaus 13 September 2020 22: 13 New
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        oh sadness ... I read here: submarines of the 5th generation will allow Russia to break out somewhere in the lead. Generation 6 submarines will plow the outer space of the Bolshoi Theater and hiccup with torpedoes into warp space
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 14 September 2020 11: 21 New
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      And I repeat once again: both are not for the school curriculum, but for those who are interested in these questions for personal or professional reasons.

      Solzhenitsyn systematically revealed the penitentiary system of Russia (USSR) during its heyday - the Stalin era.

      Before him, Tolstoy tried to do this on Sunday (in the school curriculum, by the way) and Chekhov on Sakhalin Island.

      But these are pitiful attempts compared to the "Archipelago". It was necessary to live it from the inside, not outside, to experience it on your own skin.
      Hugo in Les Miserables has come close, but this is the last century and France.

      And about the interest - in Russia there were every 4th man and every 10th inhabitant, including babies.

      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1029331

      Think whether the topic is relevant or not. wassat
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 14 September 2020 11: 41 New
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      From there. I'm not talking about his beliefs, but about the fact that he honestly describes what he has experienced, and does not compile stories, rumors and inventions, like Solzhenitsyn.

      What makes you think that Shalamov "honestly describes"? His stories are just more like stories.
      But that is not the question.

      Shalamov has scattered pieces of a mosaic.

      Solzhenitsyn has a systematic, almost scientific approach to describing the phenomenon. Perhaps not everything is accurate, he did not have access to the archives and all primary sources, but the overall picture is complete.

      Shalamov - literary processing of his own diary entries in the Chekhov style, Solzhenitsyn - complex work with different sources and the formation of a view of the phenomenon in the style of Tolstoy.

      Or so: Shalamov - early Jack London of the time of stories, Solzhenitsin - late Jack London of the time of Martin Eden.
      1. Aag
        Aag 14 September 2020 21: 21 New
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        "... Or like this: Shalamov - early Jack London of the time of stories, Solzhenitsin - late Jack London of the time of" Martin Eden .... "
        IMHO: Solzhenitsyn falls short of Jack London artistically, stylistically ... Although I-I, (I read not in the original), maybe the talented Solzhenitsyn translator ...
  40. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 14 September 2020 11: 04 New
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    Quote: Arzt
    You would agree among yourself - who is this "laureate" ...

    I'm doing it.

    Solzhenitsin is a Russian officer, Russian patriot and Russian nationalist, who wrote books about the people and their exploits.

    Come on. He was still a Soviet officer, he served in the ranks of the Red Army.
    He was not a patriot by definition. Vlasov, who did not manage to get into the ROA? This is closer to reality.
    The Memorial also writes about the people in the spirit of a staff captain. But not so much about the people, but so much about the power, it is the people that have ruined. The numbers are taken from the ceiling. As well as the conclusions ...
    Nationalist? Where is this? In the spirit of the NSDP, or the current ultra-national radicals in / in Ukraine?
    Wolf in sheep's clothing. This is the exact definition of Solzhenitsyn's personality.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 14 September 2020 11: 30 New
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      Nationalist? Where is this? In the spirit of the NSDP, or the current ultra-national radicals in / in Ukraine?

      Nowhere, but from where. From the article in the title.

      Yes, already in many outlying republics centrifugal forces are so dispersed that they cannot be stopped without violence and blood - and there is no need to keep them at such a cost!

      And this is how I see: we need to urgently, loudly, clearly declare: three Baltic republics, three Transcaucasian republics, four Central Asian republics, and Moldova, if it is more attracted to Romania, these eleven - yes! - will certainly and irrevocably be separated.

      And now, after deducting these twelve, there will only be what can be called Russia, as it has been called since olden times (the word “Russian” has embraced Little Russians, Great Russians and Belarusians for centuries), or Russia (the name is from the XNUMXth century) or, according to the correct meaning now: Russian Union.

      Yes, our people were divided into three branches only because of the terrible misfortune of the Mongol invasion and Polish colonization. This is all a recently invented falsehood that almost from the XNUMXth century there was a special Ukrainian people with a special non-Russian language. We all flowed together from precious Kiev, "where did the Russian land begin to eat", according to the chronicle of Nestor, from where Christianity shone for us
      1. Aag
        Aag 14 September 2020 21: 26 New
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        Quote: Arzt
        Nationalist? Where is this? In the spirit of the NSDP, or the current ultra-national radicals in / in Ukraine?

        Nowhere, but from where. From the article in the title.

        Yes, already in many outlying republics centrifugal forces are so dispersed that they cannot be stopped without violence and blood - and there is no need to keep them at such a cost!

        And this is how I see: we need to urgently, loudly, clearly declare: three Baltic republics, three Transcaucasian republics, four Central Asian republics, and Moldova, if it is more attracted to Romania, these eleven - yes! - will certainly and irrevocably be separated.

        And now, after deducting these twelve, there will only be what can be called Russia, as it has been called since olden times (the word “Russian” has embraced Little Russians, Great Russians and Belarusians for centuries), or Russia (the name is from the XNUMXth century) or, according to the correct meaning now: Russian Union.

        Yes, our people were divided into three branches only because of the terrible misfortune of the Mongol invasion and Polish colonization. This is all a recently invented falsehood that almost from the XNUMXth century there was a special Ukrainian people with a special non-Russian language. We all flowed together from precious Kiev, "where did the Russian land begin to eat", according to the chronicle of Nestor, from where Christianity shone for us

        ... I have questions about the Baltic states ... No, about the rest too, but I have no information ... stop
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 14 September 2020 21: 38 New
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          ... I have questions about the Baltic states ... No, about the rest too, but I have no information ...

          So read this unfortunate article for yourself at last.

          https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=70172&p=1
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 14 September 2020 23: 46 New
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        Quote: Arzt
        Nowhere, but from where. From the article in the title.

        Nationalism is a direct path to racism, xenophobia and anti-simetism. This was understood even in "enlightened Europe" and the beacons and cradles and democracy overseas.
        Just one question - how did the BLM movement originate in the United States?
        And in Europe the other day there was an incident - during the match Marseille - PSG, a Spanish player from Marseille called Neymar a "yellow monkey". As a result, 17 (seventeen, Karl!) Cards were recorded, of which 5 were red.
        Worse provocations than the division of the country "along ethnic lines" cannot be invented.
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 15 September 2020 00: 17 New
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          It is impossible to imagine a worse provocation than the division of the country "along ethnic lines".

          The question is what to consider as your country. Solzhenitsyn in his article suggests limiting ourselves to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.

          Balts, Central Asians, Transcaucasians - let them themselves somehow.
          Not to mention further ones.

          This is the famous bridge of drug addicts near Kabul. Do we need Afghanistan? I don't think so. We will get tired of washing them and civilizing them.

          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 15 September 2020 09: 28 New
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            Quote: Arzt
            The question is what to consider as your country. Solzhenitsyn in his article suggests limiting ourselves to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.

            Balts, Central Asians, Transcaucasians - let them themselves somehow.
            Not to mention further

            Yes of course...
            Who needs Russia from Kaliningrad to Kamchatka?
            This is how the Kuriles can be "returned" to the Japanese, and Koenigsberg can offer Germany a supplement ...
            And there you can reach the Confederation.
            "... Kemsky volost, you say? Well, well ...." ©
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 15 September 2020 09: 37 New
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              Yes of course...
              Who needs Russia from Kaliningrad to Kamchatka?
              This is how the Kuriles can be "returned" to the Japanese, and Koenigsberg can offer Germany a supplement ...
              And there you can reach the Confederation.
              "... Kemsky volost, you say? Well, well ...." ©

              You don't have to give anything.
              Unite Russia, Belarus, Ukraine.
              And whoever misses Samarkand or Teflis, let him go there as a tourist. As to Turkey.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 15 September 2020 11: 30 New
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                Quote: Arzt
                And whoever misses Samarkand or Teflis, let him go there as a tourist. How to Turkey

                Do you think Skobelev destroyed the Bukhara and Khiva khanates in vain?
                If in the XNUMXth century Great Britain claimed these territories, today it is the "zone of national interests" of Turkey, the United States and China.
                Or did the experience of the Chechen wars teach you nothing?
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 15 September 2020 12: 24 New
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                  your Skobelev in vain smashed the Bukhara and Khiva khanates?
                  If in the XNUMXth century Great Britain claimed these territories, today it is the "zone of national interests" of Turkey, the United States and China.
                  Or did the experience of the Chechen wars teach you nothing?

                  You need to distinguish between the territory of your state and the zone of national interests.

                  That Gromov in vain smashed the Mujahideen in Panjer? Let's reunite with the Afghans, we will babysit them. Then Pakistanis, Indians and further to Africa.
                  And then one pipe, to feed their children.

                  But even this is not the main thing. And what Solzhenitsin writes in the article.

                  At the beginning of the century, our prominent statesman S. Ye. Kryzhanovsky foresaw: “Native Russia does not have a reserve of cultural and moral forces for the assimilation of all the outskirts. This depletes the Russian national core. "
  41. faterdom
    faterdom 14 September 2020 17: 03 New
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    Quote: Arzt
    Or so: Shalamov - early Jack London of the time of stories, Solzhenitsin - late Jack London of the time of Martin Eden.

    Rather Jules Verne ... no, not modern - oh, Stephen King from camp life. Thriller master, the more creepy - the reader / viewer is happy with all the money.
  42. chingachguc
    chingachguc 14 September 2020 21: 06 New
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    Solzhenitsyn is a rare scoundrel who spent the entire war in an acoustic battery and smeared his colleagues with shit. Then there was one of the first informers in the camps. Then he wrote with the help of Tvardovsky (co-author in fact) two good stories. And as soon as Tvardovsky left, he began to drive tons of shit under the guise of a struggle for the truth. For this, Hoover was noticed and attached to the case. Received the Nobel Prize, and from this height craped another Nobel laureate - Mikhail Sholokhov. Then he was expelled from the country with rags, placed in a box with mothballs in Vermont. With the beginning of perestroika, he was removed, cleaned of cleanings and sent to his historical homeland to cut her knee tendons under the guise of a holy martyr. With which he coped very well.

    Only time puts everything in its place. Shitty writer, shitty publicist, and just shit.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 14 September 2020 21: 24 New
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      Solzhenitsyn is a rare scoundrel who spent the whole war in an acoustic battery


      Yeah. As in that joke: while you were riding in a warm tank along the Kursk Bulge, I froze my legs in the cold storehouse.

      Battery operation for sound reconnaissance mortars
      (Leningrad front. According to senior lieutenant Tomasov)

      In December 1942, our sonic reconnaissance battery received the task of reconnaissance of the enemy's mortar group ...
      The battery commander decided to deploy geometric bases 2,5 km wideand at a distance from the leading edge by 0,5-1 km and set up two warnings. The need for two warnings was caused by the proximity of the battle formation to the front line.
      1. chingachguc
        chingachguc 14 September 2020 21: 27 New
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        it's not that he served there. In the end, wherever they put it, there you serve. And the fact that he managed to throw mud at all his colleagues.
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 14 September 2020 21: 35 New
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          And the fact that he managed to throw mud at all his colleagues.


          Have you read it at all?

  43. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 15 September 2020 13: 19 New
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    There is no need to discuss this "accusator at all. You just need to forget him. And the constant mention of this batter, only strengthens the influence of his rotten statements on unhealthy minds."
  44. Victor zibert
    Victor zibert 15 September 2020 20: 27 New
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    Humpback, EBN, this pisutel- JUDAS !!!
  45. Baba Sasha
    Baba Sasha 1 October 2020 20: 07 New
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    You are like dogs. The bosses will tell you to scold, scold. Say praise, praise.