Turkish MBT Leopard 2A4 significantly increased protection

Turkey has developed a modernization option tanks Leopard 2A4, which are in service with the army, during which the protection of combat vehicles is significantly increased. Reported by "RG".

Turkish specialists from ROKETSAN have developed additional protection for the Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks. The upgraded tanks received blocks with multilayer filler installed on the turret of the tank and the front of the hull, reactive armor covering the sides, as well as lattice anti-cumulative screens.

According to the Turkish military, this protection will significantly increase the resistance to various anti-tank guided missiles and rocket-propelled grenades launched from hand-held and heavy grenade launchers.

The increase in protection, in turn, led to an increase in the mass of the tank from 55 tons to 62. However, the company emphasizes that the work carried out did not affect the characteristics of mobility and maneuverability. For this, special tests of the tank were carried out in various conditions.

Deliveries of the Leopard 2A4 MBT with improved protection to the troops are planned to begin in October this year, subsequently transferring to the troops two tanks a month. At the first stage, 40 tanks should receive new armor.

The decision to re-equip German tanks in Turkey was made following the results of hostilities in Syria, where in clashes with the Kurds, the Turkish military irrevocably lost about 10 Leopard 2A4 tanks.

Comments

[zwlad]

Increased the weight of the vehicle by more than 10% and this did not affect the characteristics of cross-country ability and mobility? Well, wizards!

[Albert1988]

Quote: zwlad

this did not affect the characteristics of cross-country ability and mobility?

on solid desert soil it may not affect ... much ... Just think - for some 10 km / h the maximum speed has dropped and half of the bridges are now not suitable for transportation))))

[TermNachTer]

And on rough terrain at full speed? "Horns and legs" will fly from the hodovka. Banderlog "Bulat" is 64 tons heavier than the base T-3,5. Crews prefer the basic version, for "Bulat" at maximum speed on rough terrain, the hodovka is killed "at once".

[Albert1988]

Quote: TermNachTER

And on rough terrain at full speed?

There you still need to find one ... But if they find it, they will "diligently go around")))

[TermNachTer]

In battle, when everything that can beat you? Nude - nude, I don't want success, well, maybe the funeral will be beautiful with an orchestra and fireworks, if everything in the tank does not burn?)))

[NEXUS]

Quote: zwlad

Well, wizards!

STORYTELLERS, BROTHERS GRIMM!

[rocket757]

10 tons, for suspension, transmission and engine, which are not designed for this ??? but how does it get on the trawl?
Will crawl across the plain until ...

[Alex_You]

Why is it not calculated? Leopard 2A6 with the same 62 tons has exactly the same chassis and the same engine. So nothing supernatural. And if you still remember the A7 +, then there is a mass of over 70.

[rocket757]

It does not happen that without modernization, replacing the corresponding units, the weight can be increased by 10 tons. This is not rational.
This is not a dump truck that was loaded / unloaded, this is a combat vehicle, where everyone is trying to optimize to improve performance characteristics.

[alpamys]

Quote: rocket757

It does not happen that without modernization, replacing the corresponding units, the weight can be increased by 10 tons. This is not rational.
This is not a dump truck that was loaded / unloaded, this is a combat vehicle, where everyone is trying to optimize to improve performance characteristics.

it’s normal with us.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Alex_You

Leopard 2A6 with the same 62 tons has exactly the same chassis and the same engine. So nothing supernatural.

There they also tightened up the engine, and it's not a fact that they didn't mess with the chassis.

[rocket757]

You can't just hang 10 tons and expect it to go.
Complex engineering / design work for modernization. The only way.

[Zaurbek]

And in the Russian Federation, during the transition from the T-90A to the T90M, did they do the same? Or from T72 A to T72 B3?

[PROXOR]

This was done thanks to the pre-loading potential incorporated in the production. It was Koshkin who introduced this into Soviet tank building, when the A-32 project, with the addition of an equivalent additional armor, passed all state. tests.
And the second thing. The good thing about the torsion bar is that the torsion bar changes in our tanks is relatively easy, even in the field. Nobody forbade replacing the torsion bar with a more powerful one.
Thus, the T-72A is easily brought to the state of T72B, T72B to T72B3. A T90A to T90M.

[Zaurbek]

The Leo GP has even more ... it is larger in size and has a 7 roller chassis.

[Mavrikiy]

led to an increase in the mass of the tank from 55 tons to 62.

Naturally.

However, the company underlinethat the work carried out did not affect in any way the characteristics of mobility and cross-country ability. For this, special tests of the tank were carried out in various conditions.

They are the masters. We could emphasize that they have grown.

[John22]

It's good that they react quickly. Less than six months have passed. Apparently, work and tests were going on. The suspension allowed for an increase in mass. The Leopard's brilliance has faded a little after the combat losses. He seems to be a potential enemy, but there were many hopes for resilience.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: John22

there were many hopes for endurance.

Leopard 2A4? Tanks created 35 years ago and not modernized? No, there was no hope of endurance.

[Albert1988]

Quote: John22

It's good that they react quickly. Less than six months have passed. Apparently, work and tests were going on.

Rather, they just bought a simplified version of MBT Revolution developed long ago by the Deutsches for the modernization of the very Leo A5 and A4))))

[Zaurbek]

What for? They support their industry. They have contracts with the Koreans on the Altai MBT ... there are certain solutions for tank protection and control systems. Here the Turks are mastering the license and applying drugs to old armored vehicles.
We will see them again with their modernization in the post-Soviet space ... with the modernization of our T-72 and T-90. Somewhere in Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan.

[Sefevi2020]

Quote: Zaurbek

Altai ..

The first buyer of Altai will be Azerbaijan, definitely.

[Zaurbek]

If they decide the issue with Diesel. The Germans are slowing down the sale of howitzers and tanks. Only for the Turkish they supply.

[Graz]

it is strange why the Turks did not do this earlier, of course the question of the quality of Turkish protection remains

[Oquzyurd]

Previously, they could not, because they themselves did not produce, others did not sell. The Turks have recently started producing armor as part of the BOR KARBÜR. This is a new generation of armor, which is much lighter than steel, but very hard. The shell breaks them, but does not pierce. Therefore, these the sheets are stirred between the steel leaves to create a cake. The Turks will soon become one of the leading countries in the creation of armor from BOR KARBÜR, since a large plant is being built for these purposes, having at hand in Turkey 72% of the boron deposits of all known reserves in the world.

[voyaka uh]

The Turks promptly reacted to the combat experience, where the deficiencies in booking appeared.
Enhanced armor.
Adequate response.

[Albert1988]

Quote: voyaka uh

Enhanced armor.
Adequate response.

From a direct hit on the side of not the most ancient ATGM, this reinforcement will save them little, alas ...
So it would be better to strengthen the tactics of using tanks ...

[aszzz888]

voyaka uh (Alexey)
Yesterday, 16: 49
NEW
+5
The Turks promptly reacted to the combat experience, where the deficiencies in booking appeared. ...

This is after more than 3,5 years "promptly"?!?

Jan 15 2017 year... - For the first time in history, several tanks were lost during the battle of the Turkish armed forces in the area of ​​the Syrian city of El-Bab "...

Turks are relatives eeeeestooooontstsam!

[Zaurbek]

Only the RF Ministry of Defense is faster. T-72 B3

[voyaka uh]

"Turks are relatives eeeeestooooonzzstsam" ///
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This is a compliment for both Turks and Estonians.
Both of these countries (despite many social differences) are developing very dynamically technically, have mastered modern military electronics and other technologies. Estonia produces and sells military tanked robots, Turkey is at the forefront in the development of drones (and other military equipment).

[Oquzyurd]

Thank you for your objectivity.
Alexey, how do you rate this system and what can it compare with? (Analogs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTnoNOF74f8

[voyaka uh]

Pointing from a drone makes sense when you need to hit either moving targets, or frequently changing target positions. For example, howitzers or enemy MLRS. The information received before the launch of the missile in a combat situation quickly becomes outdated, and the drone allows you to clarify the situation in real time. Analogs? - does not come to mind ...

[Oquzyurd]

I also looked for analogs, but have not found them yet.

[Zaurbek]

Only the Turks have their own large army and their own order for equipment ... but the Balts do not.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: voyaka uh

Turks reacted quickly

Yes, five years is just a moment by the standards of history.

[voyaka uh]

Have you watched the video?
3.5 years is fast. Including a full test cycle. And for armor penetration, and sea trials.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: voyaka uh

3.5 years is fast.

We will wait until the first barmaley - it will be immediately visible there.

[alien308]

Not to ride on Russian / Polish mud. Leo was designed for a different theater. We chose a stock.

[Zaurbek]

Is the dirt different in Europe? Or do the Germans have no memory of the Second World War? Whoever, and the tankers fought on our territory.

[Incvizitor]

I remember I said that Leo the Turks now have the best of what they have, the rest is ancient rubbish, but Leo cardboard is unreal and they need to be strengthened, probably read

[Oquzyurd]

M-60 Sabra after the second modernization became a very worthy tank: armor, active protection (Pulat), engine, transmission, cannon and aiming (from Merkava), reinforced suspension, etc. new, which is not even relatively in many new tanks in the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7pupycbph4

[Incvizitor]

Are these the ones that have been from the 60s? If the old ones are still trying to make candy out of shit, and I doubt which is newer ...
Against all sorts of slippers, it's okay, but if they have modern ATGMs and RPGs, then it's sad all the videos were where they were burned at once.

[Grazdanin]

The Turks have a very good modernization of the M60, recently they installed KAZ on all these tanks. These M60s are definitely better than the 2A4.

[Oquzyurd]

Anka-Aksungur UAV today dropped a bomb on a target for the first time. There is a jamb, but acceptable for the first time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUsHs-66pJo

[Grazdanin]

The main thing hit the target. And so cool TAI and Baikar are competing at the same time, but different segments of the UAV have occupied and both will have orders.

[Oquzyurd]

They don't talk about the drop heights. But on the video, you can guess by the scale that the height was somewhere 6-7 km. The dimensions of the target are 7,5x7,5 m.

[Oquzyurd]

8 miniature bombs with guide wings (Aselsan) Penetration power 1 m reinforced concrete at a distance of 65 km Maximum range 100 km. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgEhJrttJGA

[Grazdanin]

Perfect for Akinchi and Aksungur. The weight of these bombs was not indicated?

[Oquzyurd]

They did not indicate there, but I learned from other sources that 145 kg.

[Grazdanin]

4-8 pieces for one UAV is more than enough.

[Oquzyurd]

He clarified that the weight is 139 and 145 kg, in two versions, a land mine and a concrete head. First they are made for the F-16, then for Aksungur, then for Akinchi. As a result, they will equip another aircraft, the Hurjet, planned for 2023.

[Oquzyurd]

The first test flight of CEZERİ from the Baikar company https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAdoMLe_OHs

[Grazdanin]

Cool) for Istanbul is very relevant)

[Oquzyurd]

Today we tested the flight of Aksungur. 12 pieces of MAM-L under the wings, at an altitude of about 7 km, the flight was 28 hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMtQ-sN12-A

[Albert1988]

Quote: Oquzyurd

Chickens

Is this a type of KAZ, created on the basis of a non-working Ukrainian "Barrier"?

[Grazdanin]

Yes. Ukrainian-Turkish development, Turks brought to mind. They are in the gums. Turkey has launched a rocket into space, Ukrainian roots are similar there.

[Zaurbek]

Leo has more supply. He's Newer. It's like comparing T-62 and T-72.

[Lesorub]

Turkish MBT Leopard 2A4 significantly increased protection

The Turks are quite quickly carrying out modernization (after the leopards "proved" themselves in battles) - "Altayev" is not yet in the troops, and will begin to arrive only in 2022, and the Sultan has more than enough ambitions. I wonder why they don't put KAZ a clone of the Ukrainian "Barrier" - AKKOR PULAT?

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Lesorub

I wonder why they don't put KAZ a clone of the Ukrainian "Barrier" - AKKOR PULAT?

Unclear. Most likely a question of price, weight, necessity. If the hinged armor allows you to hold modern ATGMs, then there is no need for a KAZ because it is expensive and difficult.

[Gloomy skeptic]

The increase in protection, in turn, led to an increase in the mass of the tank from 55 tons to 62. However, the company emphasizes that the work done did not affect the characteristics of mobility and maneuverability.

I don’t believe it !!! If the mass has increased, and even by 7 tons, then it is necessary to somehow increase the engine power, and if this did not happen, then this, well, very strongly "protected" tank will go slower, which will greatly facilitate the task of the grenade launchers !!! Although this news will be a joy for training partisans !!!

[Albert1988]

The soil there is solid, deserted, so there will be no problems with pressure, but the speed will drop, yes, and bridges for crossing will now have to be chosen more carefully)

[Zaurbek]

Maybe it's a detachable kit. In the Russian Federation they are doing the same now. And Metal DZ are hung on the sides and in the tarpaulin.