"Tore up the passport": Ukraine confirmed that Maria Kolesnikova did not arrive from Belarus

Members of the opposition Coordination Council of Belarus Anton Rodnenkov and Ivan Kravtsov arrived in Ukraine today. Maria Kolesnikova was not with them.

This is reported by the Ukrainian press, referring to the speaker of the Ukrainian State Border Service Andriy Demchenko.

Initially, the State Border Committee of Belarus reported on three representatives of the opposition who left for the territory of Ukraine. But the Ukrainian border guards claim that only Rodnenkov and Kravtsov arrived at the checkpoint, and Kolesnikova was not with them.

There was also information from the Belarusian side that when crossing the border, all three representatives of the coordination council were in the same car, but after passing control Kolesnikova was allegedly pushed out of the passenger compartment and left for Ukraine without her. The woman did not need medical assistance.

The Belarusian border committee confirmed that Maria Kolesnikova was subsequently detained.

An attempt by members of the Opposition Coordination Council to leave for Ukrainian territory took place today at about four o'clock in the morning at a road checkpoint on the border of Belarus and Ukraine.

According to the representative of the State Border Committee of Belarus Anton Bychkovsky, after passing through customs, a BMW car with three Belarusian oppositionists on board met a border guard and, accelerating, rushed sharply towards Ukraine. At the same time, the lady who was in the salon was literally "pushed" out of it.

Meanwhile, the Belarusian opposition claims that the KGB of the Republic of Belarus allegedly forcibly tried to send Kolesnikova to Ukraine, but she “tore up her passport” at the border.

Comments

[Baloo]

and the flute with her?

[michael2000]

Apparently she is used to playing the jade flute.

[Nevsky_ZU]

And why did I remember this?

[Romka]

Are you even married? Well, I don't understand these arrivals because of my appearance. Or in Russia, a woman in politics can only be in "one" case?

[Tatyana]

On the Internet - in Yandex news - there is now a night video, in which, just before crossing the border, one of the Belarusian oppositionists declares that all three of them voluntarily decided to leave the country and will now cross the state border. That there are only three of them in the car.
The report also says that after passing through customs control, the men literally "pushed" the woman - Kolesnikova - out of the car and, instead of stopping at an accelerated high speed, crossed the border post.

[Alex777]

This Kolesnikova is the first oppositionist with character.
She said that between prison and departure she would choose prison and tore her passport.
Serious character. Does not give AHL rest.
They say she has a spare citizenship?
Maybe that's why she's so brave?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Alex777

They say she has a spare citizenship?
Maybe that's why she's so brave?

It is believed that her second citizenship - if any - is German.
Kolesnikova lived and worked in Germany for a long time.
In any case, for sure, it has its own "roof" connecting it with the West in Germany. Not without it.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Alex777

This Kolesnikova is the first oppositionist with character; she said that she would choose prison between prison and departure

This eccentric lady, and all pseudo liberal leaders, clearly does not know what a prison is. They live in their surreal world, paid for by Western funds. If he gets on the bunk, he may wiser a little. And the "dad" is already angry, he will not give amnesty.

[tandem]

to live in Belarus and not know what a prison is? it doesn't happen.
but onion has never been kind

[Baloo]

Yeah, I checked in on the Maidan in Kiev, now I decided to celebrate in Minsk. Everyone earns the best they can. Only now no one respects traitors, and the owner behind the fences is sometimes used for its intended purpose as a sacrificial horned cloven-hoofed animal, it seems it is called Azazel. The priest in the temple chooses one of the two Azazelets and slaughters along with the calf as a sacrifice. And the second cloven-hoofed horned azazel is driven out into the desert as if for the sins of the whole people. What am I talking about? Oh yes, Madame has not lost her pipe?

[orionvitt]

I looked carefully at the ratio of pros and cons to your (and mine) comments, and once again I was convinced of one important thing. Belorussians and Ukrainians really don't like it very much.

[tandem]

considering that she is in conjunction with Babariko. That she hasn't been touched yet. She was allowed a lot of things, for which others, without talking, were closed, or thrown out of the country. One gets the impression that D. Vova has nothing against her. And the story of the departure is pure improvisation of local unknowns

[Arthur73]

"A woman with a cart is easier for a mare!"

[Polymer]

Quote: Arthur73

"A woman with a cart is easier for a mare!"

And the reverse translation from English: "when the lady leaves the stagecoach, the horse feels some relief." Sounds softer.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Yes, Masha was not lucky: her sidekicks were thrown out of the car during the evacuation, and then the Belarusian authorities were also arrested for everything good!

[Tatyana]

Svetka also did not need to be released from the country. The Belarusian authorities made a serious strategic mistake. It was necessary to initiate a criminal case against Tikhanovskaya, which, in principle, is not too late to do now.
Maydanut Russian Belarusians have a good lesson - they will live under the Poles and Litvins.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

You are certainly right about Sveta.

But what kind of "good lesson" and the future life of Belarusians "under the Poles and Litvin" are you talking about? Can't you see that things are heading towards the fact that soon Belarus and the Belarusians will either become part of the Russian Federation, or will be in a REAL STRONG Union with Russia, and the Belarusians will NEVER be under the Poles and Lithuanians again ?! Except for those zmagars who have already fled and will still flee to Poland and Lithuania.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Balu

and the flute with her?

If it is not lost, then it will not be lost ...

[figwam]

At the same time, the lady who was in the salon was literally "pushed" out of it.

As I say, you don't need a flutist.

[mikh-korsakov]

Still push the woman out of the car? Fi, how is it not European. Although, however, my views are outdated. Now in Europe, what a man, what a woman is all the same. Interestingly, according to the German nomenclature - the female sex is partner number 1 or partner number 2. In the spirit of tolerance, I would put a female number in front of gays, but after hermaphrodites. Well, I think it would be more tolerant.

[pereselenec]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Interestingly, according to the German nomenclature - the female sex is partner number 1 or partner number 2.

The female sex is "partner number 2" (who walks with a French manicure).

[Finches]

I wrote 1000 times and I will not be lazy again - only Russian tanks on the streets of Belarusian cities will save the fraternal people from becoming American puppets and slaves of the Anglo-Saxons! And Lukashenka has nothing to do with it - the question is put bluntly - either slaves or an equal people in a family with an equal brotherly Russian people! How it happened a thousand years ago ... If you want to be insignificant slaves, without a clan and tribe - kiss this white rat under the tail, if you want to be human - think about it!

[figwam]

Quote: Finches

I wrote 1000 times and I will not be lazy again

We were flattered by leftovers from the European table.

[figwam]

Quote: figvam

We were flattered by leftovers from the European table.

I mean the oppositionists signed up for scraps from the European table.

[Orange bigg]

In Czechoslovakia and Hungary, tanks helped, as practice shows, but not for long. You won't be nice to force, and going into lawlessness is not an option.

[Finches]

And what are the Belarusians Hungarians?

[halpat]

Quote: OrangeBigg

In Czechoslovakia and Hungary, tanks helped, as practice shows, but not for long. You won't be nice to force, and going into lawlessness is not an option.

What does outrageousness mean, dear?

It was the “freedom-loving” citizens of Czechoslovakia and Hungary who went “into lawlessness” at that time, many of them in the recent past collaborated with the German Nazis, with the German occupation authorities, they were the main ringleaders and provocateurs.
It is also no secret that these were "successful" operations by the American and British special services acting on the direct orders of those in power.
But they met with a tough rebuff and failed.
The first attempts at revolutions / coups, which are now called the common name "color revolution".

And what does "not for long" mean? Quite a decent amount of time. Confident and calm.
If it were not for the tagged bear, not even on its own, but for the entire Soviet party "elite" that was overdue and rested on its laurels, then everything would be fine.

The United States is now confidently approaching a similar story. Some old men in power, hardened, no new ideas, a bunch of problems that they, together with their communities / parties / sponsors / behind the scenes, simply do not know how to solve.

We'll see. Then let's compare what is "for a long time" and what is not.

[Rubi0]

Why do tanks, pocket activists with intimidation actions do more than tanks and special services. Even if someone from the opposition is beaten off with bats or blown up in a car ... then the authorities can condemn the violence and look for performers for a long time =))) This technology has already been tested in Ukraine. The problem with white-red flags in general is solved by a ban under the guise of condemnation of Nazi accomplices, again a couple of actions and attacks by activists on lovers of spolite speech and who want to hang the flag will be reduced significantly.

[Finches]

Tanks, this is a collective image of Russia's more active activity in collecting the primordially Russian lands into the Empire! But you are also right - activists, soft power ... will not be superfluous either!

[Romka]

Yes ... from Russia with love.

[Rubi0]

So you yourself will decide you checkers or go? Is the flag more important or the economy? The way in the cart they call not to pay utilities, not to buy Belarusian goods and to take off the deposit to undermine the economy ... then it seems that you have forgotten there for what they came out, especially against the background of the fact that Luka said 2 weeks ago that they would revise constitution.

[Max otto]

Quote: Rubi0

So you yourself will decide you checkers or go? Is the flag more important or the economy? The way in the cart they call not to pay utilities, not to buy Belarusian goods and to take off the deposit to undermine the economy ... then it seems that you have forgotten there for what they came out, especially against the background of the fact that Luka said 2 weeks ago that they would revise constitution.

I'm not interested in the flag, I didn't decide anything, I just drew parallels.
To believe Luke is not to respect yourself, at least for this:
1.in October 2019, he promised to increase salaries in the construction industry by 30% so that specialists would not leave for Poland and Russia - in November he forgot and fell silent, he still does not stutter about the construction industry
2. in November 2019, he promised to equalize regional salary coefficients (they are used in design and estimate documents, in fact, through them salaries in the construction industry are added) with Minsk ones, so that it would make sense to build not only in Minsk. - canceled the decision in the same month.
3.from 20.01.2020/5/5, introduced changes to the Labor Code of the Republic of Belarus - I am now obliged to work until the end of the contract without any reservations (and I have it for XNUMX years, I signed it because I was not aware of what would happen in XNUMX months), only on a defamatory article, I can resign and nothing else. This is the revival of serfdom (!)
4.From June 2020, signed a decree limiting the rate of return to 5% for contractors in construction when attracting funds from equity holders. With that, hell would be with him, BUT - there are exceptions in the decree - there are all his friends-athletes who have registered the construction business, their profits are not limited and the land in the center of Minsk is free.
This is from the recent, what is on the surface. So we have it everywhere. There is not a single field of activity where one cannot be imprisoned or fined, there are always a couple of new decrees, which no one reported, adopted backward. You broke the law when you crossed the threshold of your house.

[Naive]

And get a return in return? And yes, you wrote the "activists" without quotation marks ...

[Romka]

Tanks will certainly help. For a while (Budapest, Prague, Vilnius). But then, years later, the Russian language will really be banned. But tell Putin on August 15 that the elections did NOT take place, and he would become the most popular politician in Belarus today.

[Finches]

I apologize, not specifically to you, but to all the rioters - if there is no mind, then a cripple ... Tanks are really needed, judging by your statements, and if there are no Russian tanks today, there will be American tanks tomorrow ... There is no third option!

[Machito]

Quote: Romka

Tanks will certainly help. For a while (Budapest, Prague, Vilnius). But then, years later, the Russian language will really be banned. But tell Putin on August 15 that the elections did NOT take place, and he would become the most popular politician in Belarus today.

Putin does not suffer from idiocy to recognize as the power of the State Department impostors from the Coordination Council.
Personally, I support Hillary Clinton that Democrats do not need to recognize Trump's victory in the upcoming presidential elections. I am for the Maidan and the civil war in the United States !!!!!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Bearded

I am for the Maidan and the civil war in the United States !!!!!

And nuclear weapons under Russian control, just in case.

[Campanella]

It's not about tanks! And not in the love of the people!
The love of the people is not constant and windy, it is not necessary to achieve it, it is pointless. It is more important to create a basis for the full disclosure of human potential.

[tandem]

to seek the love of the people by beating up dissidents? original method.

[Campanella]

I did not say that. I'm not talking about love at all.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Romka

But tell Putin on August 15 that the elections did NOT take place, and he would become the most popular politician in Belarus today.

Local patriots cannot understand this.

[MMX]

Quote: Romka

Tanks will certainly help. For a while (Budapest, Prague, Vilnius). But then, years later, the Russian language will really be banned. But tell Putin on August 15 that the elections did NOT take place, and he would become the most popular politician in Belarus today.

One day, in 2014, Putin told Yanukovych to leave by telephone. Did it help Putin to become popular in Ukraine?

[The eye of the crying]

Did you hear the conversation?

[MMX]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Did you hear the conversation?

Certainly. I listen to all the conversations of the heads of state of the world ...

Well, for the stupid, here is:
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/05/03/2014/570418c99a794761c0ce7796

[The eye of the crying]

For the stupid: there, with reference to an incomprehensible source, it is only written that Putin said something. And it was written after the events. And whether he actually said anything - only you heard.

[MMX]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

For the stupid: there, with reference to an incomprehensible source, it is only written that Putin said something. And it was written after the events. And whether he actually said anything - only you heard.

Not just said, but convinced Yanukovych to agree to the conditions of the Maidan. The people on the Maidan stood for this, right?)))
Well, the source is the most reliable by today's standards. Highley-like (c)

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

the most reliable source by today's standards. Highley-like (c)

Do you always believe this source? Okay.

[MMX]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Quote: MMX

the most reliable source by today's standards. Highley-like (c)

Do you always believe this source? Okay.

On matters of faith, this is not for me. This is the church.

[The eye of the crying]

You said the word "reliable," so you probably believe it. Or trust, one hell.

[MMX]

Credibility has nothing to do with faith if we are talking about facts and scientific approach.
But faith is probably closer to you.
This is your choice.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

But faith is probably closer to you.
This is your choice.

Do not blame the sick for the healthy. This is you cited data from the "most reliable" source of "high-like".

[MMX]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Quote: MMX

But faith is probably closer to you.
This is your choice.

Do not blame the sick for the healthy. This is you cited data from the "most reliable" source of "high-like".

And again the zmagar was caught by the tongue. You were talking about faith here, not me:

You said the word "reliable", so I guess you believe... Or trust, one hell.

I'll ask just in case: is the quote correct?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

I'll ask just in case: is the quote correct? lol

I have no idea. But I have no reason to trust the source.

[Max otto]

Quote: Romka

Tanks will certainly help. For a while (Budapest, Prague, Vilnius). But then, years later, the Russian language will really be banned. But tell Putin on August 15 that the elections did NOT take place, and he would become the most popular politician in Belarus today.

For some reason, the only sensible conclusion is in the minuses. Vova missed. Sanya did it like a sucker. He will betray him as soon as everything settles down. Although Vova may be cunning, he is waiting for November, when Luka's legitimacy will legally end, but even I doubt it.

[SuraleB]

Let these tanks drive into your city first, and save you, and we ourselves can manage somehow.

[Vend]

the Belarusian opposition claims that the KGB of the Republic of Belarus allegedly tried to forcefully send Kolesnikova to Ukraine, but she "tore her passport" at the border.

So now she may not be issued a new passport, therefore she is no longer a citizen of Belarus

[Polymer]

Quote: Wend

So now she may not be issued a new passport, therefore she is no longer a citizen of Belarus

Intentional damage to identity documents is a criminal offense in any country. So she secured a legal criminal record. Why she needed it is difficult to understand.

[Vend]

Quote: Polymer

Quote: Wend

So now she may not be issued a new passport, therefore she is no longer a citizen of Belarus

Intentional damage to identity documents is a criminal offense in any country. So she secured a legal criminal record. Why she needed it is difficult to understand.

I think this is fake, she did not do it. But according to the latest news, it becomes clear who was involved in her abduction. "The British Foreign Office demanded that the Belarusian authorities find Kolesnikova," the opposition media writes about this. Well, with these, she will not live long, sadly.

[Motorist]

Quote: Wend

she won't live long with these

For such people, Belarus is now the safest place. Probably, they did not see it from afar - they did not push out of the car, but escaped and ran away on her own. The instinct for self-preservation, however ...

[Vend]

Quote: Motorist

Quote: Wend

she won't live long with these

For such people, Belarus is now the safest place. Probably, they did not see it from afar - they did not push out of the car, but escaped and ran away on her own. The instinct for self-preservation, however ...

Yes, well, there will be a trial, well, repent, they will appoint a suspended sentence, but they will survive.

[The eye of the crying]

If you really think that if you lose your passport, you will lose citizenship, you don't know a lot. According to the Constitution, it is forbidden to deprive a citizen of Belarus of citizenship. It is simply forbidden, no matter what he does with his passport.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Balu

and the flute with her?

They say that the harp was with her. Well, objectively, here are the words from her interview, before she was thrown into politics -

Maria: Music is the same ability of humanity as, for example, to read books. Do you want to play? Sit down and play! Crooked, askew, but most importantly, with pleasure. Prolongs life, develops the brain, coordination, logical abilities, imagination. This is the only area of ​​human activity in which all areas of the brain are involved. If a child begins to play music before the age of 9, then his corpus callosum, which connects the left and right hemispheres of the brain, increases by 25%.

And here I will argue, because I see her right and left hemispheres have come down to the "zero point" after she went into politics. A person should do what he can best.

[Igor Polovodov]

Zeros are a lobotomy! Don’t you?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Igor Polovodov

Zeros are a lobotomy! Don’t you?

I think the diagnosis is correct.

[Maz]

And now - some details of the night escape of the Kolesnikov-Rodnenkov-Kravtsov trinity.
In this video, you will not see the unfolding night chase. And you will not see a breakthrough. Everything is casual and calm. At 4.04 in the morning. Trinity is undergoing border control at the state border, so to speak, in a regular mode. The piquancy of the situation is that in connection with the strengthening of state borders, we have recently put up additional checkpoints at all checkpoints - KRP. One of them is deployed near the village of Aleksandrovka. It was there that the additional verification was carried out, and it was there that the incident occurred. The fugitives, seeing an additional obstacle, panicked, deciding that it was for their souls, so they decided to break through by force.
And here is the official commentary of the State Border Committee. Some Zmagar carts grabbed onto the part where it is reported that the whole trio passed the control and proceeded towards Ukraine. From which it was concluded that the state media are lying, reporting the detention of Kolesnikova. But in this explanation (https://t.me/belta_telegramm/17262) the Code of Civil Procedure has dotted all the "i's": the fugitives abruptly pressed the gas pedal after border control, during the check with an additional outfit.
But the most beautiful thing here is this: "However, later, having met a border guard, the car accelerated sharply, creating a threat to the life of a soldier of the border service. Kolesnikova was outside the vehicle. In fact, she was pushed out of it and continued to move towards Ukraine." Now the COP is mumbling something about the fact that Kolesnikova was not going to leave Belarus, which in itself sounds strange in relation to a person who has permanent residence in Germany. However, it doesn't matter now. It is important that the accomplices themselves kicked Masha out of the car and gave it to her. A woman's desire is the law: she wanted to stay - stay!
It's just some kind of holiday! The story of the flight of the trinity abroad is becoming more and more beautiful every minute! In addition to the passport and untouched document for permanent residence in Germany, eaten in front of the registry office before the registry office, Kolesnikova found out that the accomplices - Rodnenkov and Kravtsov - already had a residence permit (https://t.me/ATN_BTRC/9374) in Ukraine. And these people were going to go to the end and called others!

[Unknown]

but what about the whole performance with the abduction? just now, all the liberal and Western media were trumpeting about him. blown away. clowns from the burned-out theater.

[Trapp1st]

a shortsighted step on his part.

What step? Who among us in general knows what happened there, an endless stream of fakes.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: gatamelata

Of course he does. Listen to how he calls his people, there is a selection on YouTube.

If you evaluate everything and gain knowledge from "YouTube" and from social networks, then you already have in your head not only confusion, but porridge cooked in water with chaff.

[gatamelata]

That is, is it NORMAL ???
Or in Hollywood, the State Department filmed, as Luca calls his own people?
Or our president asks during a direct line - are you a Muscovite or a Russian?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: gatamelata

Or in Hollywood, the State Department filmed, as Luca calls his own people?

And you do not compare the people with the opposition.

[gatamelata]

There was already one such, people loved to compare, only ended badly.
And this one will also finish.

[K-612-O]

Despite the fact that the news about the torn passport came out of A. Gerashchenko's anus. And this is horror what a reliable source, a hog-fascist

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Farid Alekperov

Considering that Lukashenko is a clinical idio, you can expect anything from him.

You are an interesting person, for 26 years he was a normal person and you were silent, and now you woke up, it turns out he is not who he pretended to be. It is always like that "It is always easier to beat the dad with the world."

[Farid Alekperov]

That's right, that's 26 years old. It's just time to leave, the people are tired of enduring him. After all, any patience comes to an end. And Belarusians are very patient by nature. And Usatii is a typical demagogue, for many years he powdered the brains of the people with his talking shop. And not only to his people, but also to the Russian public. This is not to say that he did nothing, there were some things to do. But recent years, recent crimes, murders of oppositionists are already too much. The man has cleaned the political field around him, around him there are only colorless officials. Any bright politician is thrown out of the country. And you can be enchanted by any well-speaking leader, the stadiums applauded the Fuhrer.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: tihonmarine

26 years old it was a normal person

You are completely out of topic. He was not normal and people were not silent. It's just that he went too far this time. Because ... as stated above.

[tatra]

Or maybe in the "Saint" Nicholas II, praised by the Russian enemies of the communists, because of whose repression many revolutionaries, including Lenin, left Russia, and whom, according to the enemies of the communists, Nicholas II should have repressed and destroyed more?

[gatamelata]

What does the tsar-rag and Ulyanov-Blank have to do with it?
Here the plot will be more abrupt, with personal sanctions, refusal of banks in long loans and new NOLOGS for dear Russians and old dictators.

[Trapp1st]

Here the plot will be cooler

Well, my friend gave a blunder) That is, 1917, compared to the events in Belarus, is this so, what a trifle?)

[gatamelata]

Well, then the world war was going on.
And now some partners, only some of them trade in minerals for the money of other partners, and they buy beads for their money and rejoice.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: gatamelata

And now some partners

Partners only have sex.

[gatamelata]

These are the words of the President of Russia, and not some noname from the topvar.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: gatamelata

These are the words of the President of Russia, and not some noname from the topvar.

Presidents do not know such subtleties.

[mikh-korsakov]

Mach was given not by Lenin but by Kollontai. And Lenin from this nailed him to a pillory in his brilliant article ...

[tatra]

And what does some Blank have to do with it? And YES, from you, enemies of Lenin on the territory of the USSR, ALWAYS, both under Soviet power, and after you captured the USSR, and from your adored West, only harm to the country and the people.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tatra

and from your adored West, only one harm to the country and people.

And what else can you get from the eternal enemy?

[Okolotochny]

Irina, well, the comparison is not comme il faut. By the way, while Lenin "rotted" in exile in Switzerland (enduring all the "hardships and hardships") due to the forced county, Kolchak explored the Russian North. I'm not talking about Kolchak's role in Civil. This is so, for comparison.

[tatra]

Here, the demonstrative double standards of the enemies of the communists, and the ejection from the history of the country of all facts that are unfavorable to them in their anti-Sovietism, which they have the only justification for 30 years
capture of the USSR, and their ideology and propaganda, and the history of their country. They have HIS OWN, seriously imagining that they are more than communists and their supporters worthy of owning the country - there is nothing ...

[Okolotochny]

Irina, why should the slogan be? I respect your position, understand and accept in some way. But let's turn off blind faith?

[tatra]

And what has some kind of "blind faith" to do with it.? Unlike the enemies of the communists, I am an honest person, I always try to be objective, including about the history of my country.

[Okolotochny]

Irina, "blind faith in good communists" - as I already wrote, I repeat. In almost 10 years, the country was restored after the Second World War. Do you know why? Because it revived the generation that "drank" the most ... But when it changed and the "next" came to power, then ... everything happened. Look at the Union Republics at the time of the collapse of the USSR, except for the Baltics and Georgia (in my opinion), communists were in power everywhere, in every Republic. The bottom line? It was not the enemies who destroyed the USSR, but the communists themselves destroyed it. And what about ordinary party members? Tens of millions !!! Where are their meetings, rallies, demands, etc. ???

[tatra]

The enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR are a unique phenomenon in mankind, including the fact that they have nothing and no one good in the history of their country, and they climb on debating historical political sites not to honestly, objectively, adequately discuss the history of their country, but only to be angry against the Bolsheviks - the communists and their supporters, and against each other, and boast - how much they got after the destruction of the USSR.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tatra

Here, the demonstrative double standards of the enemies of the communists, and the ejection from the history of the country of all facts that are unfavorable to them in their anti-Sovietism, which they have and the only justification for their capture of the USSR in 30 years

And I completely agree with you. When I start scolding the West, I always get 20-25% minuses. And this is how it should be. Many are silent about their devotion to the West, but they have always been and will be, when in the days of Grozny they opened the gates of fortresses to the enemy.

[Motorist]

Quote: tatra

the double standards of the enemies of the communists

Why do you label everyone as "enemies of the communists"? With such posts, I think you are trying to cause rejection of your avatar. Change your avatar, it doesn't suit you.

[tandem]

strictly speaking, the tsar did not create real repressions. For two years only after the revolution of 1905, punishers wandered around Russia, killing people without trial. Bloody Sunday is pure kurtosis. It was such that girls - revolutionaries were beaten and raped in prisons. The Bolsheviks, when they came to power, took into account the mistakes of the previous regime.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

And in the neutral zone flowers grow, Marysya collects those flowers. When he returns to his home, only Soros knows for sure)))

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

When he returns to his home, only Soros knows for sure

But he didn’t send her to come back. Kamikaze never returns, they die.

[strannik1985]

Didn't agree on the role of "victim of the regime"?

[Lipchanin]

Didn't you tear anything apart from your passport?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

Didn't you tear anything apart from your passport?

They say that she herself could not move without help, that she tore something up.

[Senka naughty]

Who benefits from the same thing, to breed "booze" in the media with the help of this sorosyatny. And why Ukraine and not Poland? There is also her native harbor, where she worked and lived in recent years. In general, oil painting, rats fleeing the ship.

[Mountain shooter]

The rats flee from the ship ... trampling each other along the road ...

[Trapp1st]

trampling each other's path

I just didn’t pass the fare. A common story.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

"Dyuduktiv" and horrors ... They push out of the car, tear them abroad themselves .. tear up the passport .. as they tear home ..

[Livonetc]

Do not shirk figs from the role of the mother of Belarusian democracy.
You will be remembered.

[Mouse]

At the same time, the lady who was in the salon was literally "pushed" out of it.

A woman with a cart is easier for a mare ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mouse

The woman with the mare cart is lighter

When the lady leaves the car he increases the speed

[Mouse]

- you will continue!

[Lipchanin]

That's why she and lady

[pilot69]

A woman with a cart - and the wolves are fed ...

[Anton S]

Brave, smart, beautiful

[The eye of the crying]

A principled woman.

[tihonmarine]

[quote = Eye of the Crying] Brave, smart, beautiful [/ quote
Most of her biography, the flutist worked in another country, although there is no reliable information on obtaining German citizenship. The reason, allegedly for which she decided to leave in her youth, is precisely connected with the political structure of the Republic of Belarus. And what does she care about Belarus, where people needed to survive and work.

[The eye of the crying]

You tried to quote other people's words, attributing them to me. Are you doing this by mistake or deliberately?

Quote: tihonmarine

And what does she care about Belarus

She was born here, grew up, lived, and even is a citizen of Belarus. And what do you care about Belarus?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

She was born here, grew up, lived, and even is a citizen of Belarus. And what do you care about Belarus?

I care about Belarus, since my father and mother are buried in Minsk and my mother is a veteran of the partisan
Movements of Belarus. And I am not very pleased when my mother killed the invaders, and some kind of mumzelka from the age of 17 decided to live in the country of invaders, and now she decided the Belarusians how to live.
Sorry to turn on your head and not your laptop.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: tihonmarine

I care about Belarus, since my father and mother are buried in Minsk and my mother is a veteran of the partisan
Movements of Belarus.

Pathetic. As far as I understand, you do not live in Belarus yourself.

Quote: tihonmarine

my mother killed invaders

We all have parents or grandfathers who fought or died. You are not the only one.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Pathetic. As far as I understand, you do not live in Belarus yourself.

But what pathos is there, you need not give your country to the West to be torn apart. Although I could live in Belarus, because I am a sailor, and in Belarus there is no sea yet, it always hurts me to watch how they cut them alive.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: tihonmarine

What pathos is there

Such pathetic. With the mention of parental graves.

Quote: tihonmarine

you do not need to give your country to the West

So far, I have not seen any proposals in the Western media to introduce tanks into Belarus. But on the ax of such proposals - in abundance.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

So far, I have not seen any proposals in the Western media to introduce tanks into Belarus. But on the ax of such proposals - in abundance.

In the 21st century, no one introduces tanks, now there are other methods, read the confession "I am an economic killer" there it is well described how one can do without tanks.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: tihonmarine

Nobody introduces tanks in the 21st century

This means that the people offering this are living in the past.

Quote: tihonmarine

, read the confession "I am an economic killer"

The book is called Confessions of an Economic Killer. Have you read it yourself?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

The book is called Confessions of an Economic Killer. Have you read it yourself?

Well, I read it when it came out it was like this Confessions of an Economic Hitman, since they read it, that is a very interesting continuation. "History of the American Empire" Economic Murderers and the Truth About Global Corruption.

[The eye of the crying]

If you've read the book, you should know that what is described there is quite applicable to authoritarian regimes. You can also ask about the growth of the debt of Belarus under Lukashenka.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

If you've read the book, you should know that what is described there is quite applicable to authoritarian regimes. You can also ask about the growth of the debt of Belarus under Lukashenka.

This is how the West enslaves you. I can only say "It's a pity, and very much."

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: tihonmarine

This is how the West enslaves you.

And for 26 years Lukashenka has been hindering this in no way. I don't understand the people who drown for him. Whatever views you are, Lukashenka is not your hero, because he only cares about himself.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Whatever views you are, Lukashenka is not your hero, because he only cares about himself.

Thank you, I understood, my working day is over, I'm going home. Arividerchi.

[MMX]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

So far, I have not seen any proposals in the Western media to introduce tanks into Belarus. But on the ax of such proposals - in abundance.

So far, I have not seen any proposals in the Russian media to hold re-elections in another country. And yes, show in the Russian media "proposals to introduce tanks to Belarus"?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

So far, I have not seen any proposals in the Russian media to hold re-elections in another country.

So what?

Quote: MMX

And yes, show in the Russian media "proposals to introduce tanks to Belarus"?

Sorry, I am not capable of watching Russian media. But, in case you missed it, Russian President Putin threatened to intervene if he deemed it necessary (he, of course, phrased it differently, but why should we be hypocritical).

[MMX]

So what?

And the fact that the Russian Federation does not interfere in the elections.
In vain, by the way.

Sorry, I am not capable of watching Russian media. But, in case you missed it, Russian President Putin threatened to intervene if he deemed it necessary (he, of course, phrased it differently, but why should we be hypocritical).

I really missed Putin's statement about tanks in Belarus. Remind?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

And the fact that the Russian Federation does not interfere in the elections.

Only that the RF does not admit it.

Quote: MMX

I really missed Putin's statement about tanks in Belarus.

But promises of intervention are not enough for you, do you need exactly about tanks, without a promise of tanks it doesn't count? Is there no need to specify specific tank models?

[MMX]

Only that the RF does not admit it.

It doesn't matter whether it is recognized or not. You’ll come up with everything yourself and believe. Moreover, you will convince others.
Again, I will only be glad if the RF intervenes (and at the same time successfully).

But promises of intervention are not enough for you, do you need exactly about tanks, without a promise of tanks it doesn't count?

You yourself came up with the tanks. Why do you attribute this to Putin?

Is there no need to specify specific tank models?

You know better. In your head, most likely, Russian tanks are already cutting across Minsk.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

It doesn't matter if it's recognized or not

Well, you decided to discuss something that you have not heard something. I agree that it doesn't matter.

Quote: MMX

You yourself came up with the tanks. Why do you attribute this to Putin?

If you carefully read what I wrote, you will see that I did not ascribe anything to Putin.

Quote: MMX

In your head, apparently

If you see that in another person's head, you have hallucinations.

[MMX]

Well, you decided to discuss something that you have not heard something.

Attributing your thoughts to other people again?

If you carefully read what I wrote, you will see that I did not ascribe anything to Putin.

Seriously?
I have bad news for you:

If you see that in another person's head, you have hallucinations.

I will now turn over your idea of ​​the world, but you are now broadcasting your thoughts on the Internet, specifically on the VO website, scribbling comments here. Confirmation screen above

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

I have bad news for you:

You have no news for me, good or bad. In the screenshot you showed, I did not attribute anything to Putin.

Quote: MMX

I will now turn your view of the world

Don't turn it over.

[MMX]

You have no news for me - neither good nor bad

Right. And it can't be. You do not even doubt that I am an order of magnitude higher in level than you.

In the screenshot you showed, I did not attribute anything to Putin.

Uh-huh, well, how can this be, they themselves did not understand, right?
After all, the phrase:

show in the Russian media "proposals to introduce tanks to Belarus"?

Answered by:

Putin threatened to intervene if he deemed it necessary (he, of course, phrased it differently, but why should we be hypocritical)

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: MMX

Answered by:

And this time you misinterpreted the quote. Why am I not surprised

[MMX]

Uh-huh, got it wrong

[The eye of the crying]

And now they have not misled. Although you have already shown this screenshot. Tell me, is your native Russian language? Or just obscene?

[MMX]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

And now they have not misled. Although you have already shown this screenshot. Tell me, is your native Russian language? Or just obscene?

Well, I realized that when Zmagar was caught by his tongue, he began to pretend to be dead

[Motorist]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Putin threatened to interfere ... why should we be hypocritical

I'm not a hypocrite - get a minus for the manipulation.

[The eye of the crying]

Your vote has been counted.

[Motorist]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Your vote has been counted.

Consider a couple more after reading your dialogue with MMX. Everything is subjective, naturally ...

[The eye of the crying]

Let us tell you in bulk - N cons.

[Motorist]

Hospadi! Well, I don’t personally consider your disadvantages! You just take into account, and I decided to help you in hot pursuit, so much.

[The eye of the crying]

It would be a pity it would be curious.

[Motorist]

I think that with your rating earned in 10 days, the opinion of the Motorist will not play a role. I just wanted to point out to you and the members of the forum about your manipulation. Regards, as well as to [almost] any commentator.

[Motorist]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

maybe it would be useful for something

Communication with people is generally useful. But you (to continue communication) have not yet said anything about manipulation. Presumption of innocence? Okay...

Your words:

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Russian President Putin threatened to intervene if he deemed it necessary

TASS: "a reserve of law enforcement officers ... will not be used until the situation gets out of control, until extremist elements, hiding behind political slogans, cross certain borders, go over to robbery, and start trying to seize administrative buildings"

There is a difference?

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Motorist

There is a difference?

No. Under "robbery", if you wish, you can put anything, under "seizure of administrative buildings" too, not to mention the fact that all this is easy to organize ("Chihari" have already been spotted here). So, in essence, this is a threat of interference in internal affairs another country. Well, it's clear who will decide whether to intervene. And it looks all the more lousy because in the event of a provocation, Putin will have a choice - either to intervene or lose the image of the tough kid who said he did.

Quote: Motorist

I am for you a material that requires a lot of "man-hours"

You? I may disappoint you, but no. But my job is different. Simply connected with a computer and the working day is not standardized. And don't overestimate the time I spend answering

[Motorist]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Under "robbery", if you wish, you can add anything

No, well, you (with your experience) twist everything right! Now it's my turn to "merge", tk. went demagoguery ("I am not a lecturer - a tamer", c.). The word "threat" is already in the second commentary, and it is unfounded and unsubstantiated; I would say - a methodical instruction. I will not re-write the text for an apparent excuse. Be healthy!

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Motorist

The word "threat" is already in the second comment, and it is unfounded and unsubstantiated; I would say - a methodical instruction.

I would ask who exactly this guideline is addressed to ... it's a pity you already left

[Motorist]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

I would ask who exactly this guideline is addressed to ... it's a pity you already left

Yes, I'm still here. Well, commentators at different venues. There are all sorts of theses: serfdom, etc. Look through my comments - there I teased your colleagues. That's it, I'm leaving - be there!

[Motorist]

The comment was deleted.

I understand, Eye, why you "merge". You comment all day, you might think that a person has a day off. But I think that the working day, on the contrary, is in full swing, and, apparently, at several jobs at once! I am for you a material that requires a lot of "man-hours". There is no offense, do not worry - I respect any work. No joke.

[Anton S]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Pathetic. As far as I understand, you do not live in Belarus yourself.

But what pathos is there, you need not give your country to the West to be torn apart. Although I could live in Belarus, because I am a sailor, and in Belarus there is no sea yet, it always hurts me to watch how they cut them alive.

What is being torn apart by the west? Belarusians want to live in their own country, which belongs to them, and not to the mustachioed, colossal boor who has turned this country into his ancestral home.

[fn34440]

And what do you want?
The exiled Cossack girl Kolesnikova has lived in Stuttgart, Germany since 2007, where she probably fell into the clutches of the German BND, which walks under MI-6 and other older brother, as part of cooperation on NATO and the Five Eyes intelligence group
It was Maria who managed to agree on the creation of a joint headquarters, laying the foundation for all subsequent events. Of the female trio, which was quickly proclaimed the face of the opposition, Kolesnikova was the only one who voluntarily participated in this process. She did not leave because her husband was not registered or because she was imprisoned. And she has no children to threaten. Of the key figures, Kolesnikova is the only one who remained after the elections, i.e. because behind my back I felt the support of curators-employers.
Tikhanovskaya is in general a person who is used:

In Lithuania, Tikhanovskaya was surrounded by people who are extremely negatively disposed towards Russia, and she is under their influence. Guaidó's script is forced upon her. On the contrary, the Coordination Council of the opposition is being formed in Minsk. But there is a very strange story too. They wanted to finish off the resignation of Lukashenka, then to arrange re-elections ... It is clear why this is happening. The opposition was counting on dialogue, but there is none. Lukashenka's task boils down to changing the Constitution in order to share his powers with his eldest son. But Kolesnikova does nothing.
... Many in the opposition understand this, so Kolesnikova's star may go down in the foreseeable future. If the protest fails, she will be made the scapegoat, making her responsible for the defeat.

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: fn34440

BND, which walks under MI-6 and other older brother, within the framework of cooperation on NATO and the Five Eyes intelligence group

Just for the record: Germany and its services are not part of the Five Eyes.

Quote: fn34440

Lukashenka's task boils down to changing the Constitution in order to share his powers with his eldest son.

Will introduce the monarchy?

[Terrible GMO]

Quote: fn34440

Lukashenka's task boils down to changing the Constitution in order to share his powers with his eldest son.

Do not pass fantasies about the master and the eternal king to others. Somehow we can do without the master's boot

[Wolverine]

Tryndets drama ... Either she was kidnapped right in broad daylight by pushing her into a minibus, then she secretly with other oppas tried to cross the border, then they tried to forcibly expel her, then she tore her passport in order to stay in her homeland ... Have you swallowed potassium cyanide yet? Straight Shakespearean intensity of passions

[Kart]

They have it so. In the 90s, one fell from the bridge and lay down on the rails.
Well, he still could not play the flute.

[Polymer]

Quote: Carte

Well, he still could not play the flute.

I remember he loved to dance. And he was not at all worried that no one liked the dances performed by him.

[Avior]

With Lukashenka, it never happens otherwise, everything is on pathos.
Now with a machine gun bare, then 200 Russian terrorists are caught in the forests, then the army rushes from one border to another

[Lipchanin]

And More "Newbie"

[rocket757]

What a circus ... the coolest thing is that it can no longer significantly affect anything!

[APASUS]

And she could not tear her passport in Minsk, she had to drag herself to the border?

[The eye of the crying]

Why should you tear it up in Minsk? At the border, it is clear why - so as not to be sent.

[Baloo]

Quote: Eye of the Crying

Why should you tear it up in Minsk? At the border, it is clear why - so as not to be sent.

She is not paid to tear her passport and dump it on Ukraine. The nativity scene is not over

[The eye of the crying]

If you tried to answer my question, you failed.

By the way, what does the picture symbolize - Russian Spring, judging by the signature below? Probably Russian Spring is the signed character on the left?

[Avior]

... Initially, the State Border Committee of Belarus reported on three representatives of the opposition who left for the territory of Ukraine.

They lied, it turns out.

... The Belarusian border committee confirmed that Maria Kolesnikova was subsequently detained.

Forgot to add for what.

[HAM]

"Babi revolt" failed ....... the participants are leaving for winter quarters ....

[Captivity]

Everything is just there. The KGB took all three and tried to escort them to Ukraine "peacefully". In the sense: no person, no problem. Just like they did with Tikhanovskaya. Kolesnikova refused to play to their tune. Now the whole world knows that they have her and she does not want to leave.

[22 dmdc]

Quote: Finches

and if there are no Russian tanks today, then tomorrow there will be American ones ... There is no third option!

The Abrams have already been brought to the Belarusian border.

[22 dmdc]

Quote: Finches

kiss this white rat on the tail

How many times did I write - do not offend our mare, she is really prettier.

[Fan-fan]

Well, and an article, a set of some fragmentary information that contradicts each other, written only half a page of the text, and nothing to understand. The general thing is impossible to understand without a bubble.

[7,62x54]

They fled so ineptly. Finally, at least they would treat the person to the Novice. It would be complete trash

[Alsur]

Quote: Romka

Tanks will certainly help. For a while (Budapest, Prague, Vilnius). But then, years later, the Russian language will really be banned. But tell Putin on August 15 that the elections did NOT take place, and he would become the most popular politician in Belarus today.

You still do not want to understand whether the elections took place or did not take place, not from what Putin, the opposition or you said. This is only according to the laws of propaganda, if they talk about something, then it was.

[Mimino]

Well, why, I decided to do away with the citizenship of Belarus, you can satisfy her desire and make her a person without access.