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Russian coronavirus vaccine released into civilian circulation

The Russian Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine has been released into civilian circulation. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Health.


According to the Ministry of Health, the first batch of vaccine developed by the National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology named after Gamaleas, prepared for the vaccination of the civilian population. At the first stage, the population from risk groups, in particular teachers and doctors, will be vaccinated. In the near future, the supply of the new drug will begin to the Russian regions.

The first batch of the vaccine for the prevention of a new coronavirus infection "Gam-Covid-Vac" ("Sputnik V") has passed the necessary quality tests in the laboratories of Roszdravnadzor and released into civil circulation

- said in a statement.

It is emphasized that the anticoid vaccine passed all the necessary laboratory tests, during which it formed a stable immunity in one hundred percent of the test participants, while not causing serious undesirable consequences.

Earlier it was reported that vaccination of the population from risk groups will be carried out in parallel with post-registration clinical trials.

The Gamaleya Center noted that vaccination of most of the Russian residents of Russia can take from 9 to 12 months.
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  1. Clear
    Clear 8 September 2020 09: 16 New
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    At the first stage, the population from risk groups, in particular teachers and doctors, will be vaccinated.

    Forgot to add, vaccination - voluntary!
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 8 September 2020 09: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: Clear
      At the first stage, the population from risk groups, in particular teachers and doctors, will be vaccinated.

      Forgot to add, vaccination - voluntary!

      IMPORTANT UPDATE laughing
      1. Temples
        Temples 8 September 2020 09: 45 New
        -6
        Quote: Clear
        Forgot to add, vaccination is voluntary!

        Death is also voluntary.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 8 September 2020 09: 20 New
      +3
      Risk groups and condition voluntary, do not match well! Let's see how it goes ???
      1. Clear
        Clear 8 September 2020 09: 25 New
        +5
        Quote: rocket757
        Risk groups and condition voluntary, do not match well! Let's see how it goes ???

        Refusal to conduct medical intervention, including vaccinations, is made out in the form of a document on paper or in the form of an electronic document. In case of refusal, the citizen must be explained the possible consequences of such a refusal (part 4 of article 20 of the Law on the Fundamentals of Protection of Citizens' Health).
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 8 September 2020 11: 03 New
          0
          The situation is STANDARD! people have a choice ...
          the first will be the worst, and then there will be statistics !!!
          Getting vaccinated against flu, tetanus and other diseases ... this is now the fate of most of humanity.
          I want something more reliable, proven, BUT, it will be as it is. At first it's scary, and then, in one direction or another, everything will be decided ... just huddle in a corner and wait for everything to be decided by itself, the prospect is even more sour!
          So boom, because the chances of surviving are not bad ...
      2. Ascold1901
        Ascold1901 8 September 2020 10: 20 New
        +5
        There is such a "bearded" idiom - Request in the form of an Order))))
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 8 September 2020 10: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Ascold1901
          There is such a "bearded" idiom - Request in the form of an Order))))

          And also the "bearded" (still) leadership said "THERE IS AN OPINION!"
      3. bk316
        bk316 8 September 2020 10: 26 New
        +2
        Risk groups and condition are voluntary, do not mix well!

        Why? Voluntary but within these groups. Until you just buy the vaccine.
        1. Harry.km
          Harry.km 8 September 2020 14: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: bk316
          Until you just buy the vaccine.

          As long as you just like that, you won't get rid of vaccination)))
          These two groups have always made their approval, well, the prize has arrived ... Moreover, as they called it meaningfully - risk groups! Go guess what the risk is ...)) From the consequences of the crown, where according to statistics we have the best in the world or from the side effects of the vaccine. About a side effect, even the manufacturer in the description indicates that there was no time and some of the effects (side) were observed after 49 days.
          The apotheosis of optimization of medicine and education!
          1. bk316
            bk316 8 September 2020 15: 28 New
            0
            As long as you just like that, you won't get rid of vaccination)))

            I'm not going to excuse myself, I would rather buy it, but alas, I do not belong to the risk group.
            And the risk of which is absolutely understandable is to get infected yourself and infect many people.
      4. Svetlana
        Svetlana 9 September 2020 14: 19 New
        0
        They go well together.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 9 September 2020 14: 26 New
          0
          Opinions are different, they understand everything differently ... this is NORMAL.
          BUT, it is necessary either as in battle, until victory, or .... as it turns out.
          There is a choice.
    3. Romey
      Romey 8 September 2020 09: 21 New
      +5
      Yeah. Just wait voluntary. The bosses have already told my wife at work at school that 100 percent when they bring ...
      1. Clear
        Clear 8 September 2020 09: 27 New
        +7
        Quote: romey
        Yeah. Just wait voluntary. The bosses have already told my wife at work at school that 100 percent when they bring ...

        The law (157-FZ) provides not liability, but restrictions due to the lack of vaccinations Nat. calendar.
        Possible ban on entry to some countries; in the event of a threat of an epidemic or an outbreak of any virus, it is possible to refuse to accept a child in a kindergarten / school, and an adult, for example, in a sanatorium.
        Also, if the job is associated with a high risk of infectious diseases, they can refuse employment, or be suspended from existing work ...
        1. Temples
          Temples 8 September 2020 09: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Clear
          remove from existing work ...

          It is right.
          If a teacher infects thirty or forty students this is not a game of spillikins.

          The vaccine is not Russian roulette.
          And before vaccination, a person will be checked for possible complications.

          In the end, we get vaccinated against smallpox.
          And tetanus.

          Normal people do not throw tantrums about this.
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 8 September 2020 10: 09 New
            -6
            Quote: Temples
            It is right.
            If a teacher infects thirty or forty students this is not a game of spillikins.

            The vaccine is not Russian roulette.

            what is it? if in six months, and the pandemic received a vaccine? Putin type "test drive" passed? everyone believes? clinical trials at an accelerated pace I? yeah ... yeah ...
            1. Temples
              Temples 8 September 2020 10: 39 New
              +6
              Old grandfather, when did you hear that the vaccine should be given for more than 6 months?

              This information was pushed into your head no earlier than 2-3 months ago.

              Exactly when the world learned that the Russians had made a vaccine.

              Anglo-Saxons once again crap.

              If the vaccine is American or European, then this is the correct vaccine. wassat

              And if Russian, then she is dangerous because .....

              And then the old expert will tell you. laughing
              1. Soho
                Soho 8 September 2020 10: 45 New
                +5
                Old grandfather, when did you hear that the vaccine should be given for more than 6 months?

                This information was pushed into your head no earlier than 2-3 months ago

                Temples, you are writing to a computer bot. In addition to the words "Putin" and "Niveru", he has nothing else in his database.
                1. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 8 September 2020 11: 40 New
                  -2
                  Just "Dedka" writes much more on the case .. and is able to reason sensibly ..
                  Unlike those who are able to discuss only him ..
                  1. Soho
                    Soho 8 September 2020 11: 54 New
                    0
                    Just "Dedka" writes much more on the case .. and is able to reason sensibly ..

                    "on the case" .... "reasonably" .... This is what it is in your opinion? What is soundness? In screaming "niveru"? Are you capable of reasoning yourself? Do you or this imitator of a live user under the nickname Dedka have any grounds for skepticism? Could you be microbiologists or biotechnology scientists? You have subtracted a couple of clichés from the liberoid press and are now circulating them from article to article. Nothing more
                    1. Roman070280
                      Roman070280 8 September 2020 12: 42 New
                      +2
                      In what he writes on the case .. And he just expresses the grounds for skeptical remarks ..
                      And you have learned the word liberd, and now you eat with it .. Nothing more ..
                      1. Soho
                        Soho 8 September 2020 13: 04 New
                        -2
                        And he just expresses grounds for skepticism ..

                        For chatterboxes like you and Daddy, there is only one reason for sniffing - it's made in Russia. If it was done in the USA or in Europe, then you would have jumped as if scalded, shouting "for", regardless of how and for how long it was done
                      2. Roman070280
                        Roman070280 8 September 2020 13: 36 New
                        +4
                        You come up with a bileberda yourself, and you yourself prove it here ..
                        The person above wrote arguments that have nothing to do with where it was produced .. but the Chukchi are not a reader .. so they argue with themselves ..))
                        With regards to Europe / the United States, I personally have no more desire to inject their vaccine than ours .. So you hit the sky with your chatter ..
                      3. Soho
                        Soho 8 September 2020 13: 41 New
                        -5
                        The person above wrote arguments that have nothing to do with where it was produced ..

                        For you, the Chukchi, I am writing again, if you do not read well - for the grandfather personally EVERYTHING that has been done in Russia is all bad. Biased and subjective. Here he is so rotten. Judging by your comments, you are also from the same cohort
                      4. Roman070280
                        Roman070280 8 September 2020 14: 04 New
                        +4
                        I am writing again, if you read badly - for Dedka personally EVERYTHING that has been done in Russia - everything is bad.


                        For you, the Chukchi, I am writing again if you do not read well - the person above wrote arguments that have nothing to do with where it was done ..

                        Biased and subjective.
                        The attitude towards the virus itself is biased here as a whole, and not just the vaccine ..
                        Therefore, I said above:
                        With regards to Europe / the United States, personally, my desire to inject their vaccine is no more ours ..
      2. Roman070280
        Roman070280 8 September 2020 11: 38 New
        -1
        everyone believes?

        Everyone laughs ..
        But there are also enough naive fools.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 8 September 2020 21: 13 New
          -2
          Quote: Roman070280
          everyone believes?
          Everyone laughs .. But there are also enough naive fools ..
          Is that all, or not all? You would have decided first. When contradictions peacefully coexist in one head, this is no longer naive stupidity, but a clinical picture.
          1. Roman13579
            Roman13579 9 September 2020 08: 49 New
            +2
            The controversy is to cancel the Parade on May 9 due to the virus, and on the trail. day to announce the end of the "weekend" and the release of all to work ??)
            That is why I was not mistaken with the second phrase .. about the naive ..))
      3. KCA
        KCA 8 September 2020 12: 24 New
        +4
        I don't remember who from the center of Gamaleya said that they began to develop a vaccine against coronaviruses more than 30 years ago, and not at all during a pandemic, it was just that there were no strains transmitted from person to person, or they fell under the definition of ARVI without risk to people's lives, with covid-19 the situation has changed, work on this strain has been accelerated, that's all
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 8 September 2020 10: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Temples
      Normal people do not throw tantrums about this.

      Patriarch Kirill refused to be vaccinated with this vaccine until the end of testing. Despite being vaccinated with this vaccine laughing Putin still avoids communication and everything happens in the "tele-" mode.
      More than 80% of surveyed Russian doctors do not trust this vaccine.
      Very reasonable steps and most importantly, without hysterics. And the missing, according to WHO, the study of the long-term effects of this vaccine will be carried out on "rabbits"
      1. bk316
        bk316 8 September 2020 10: 28 New
        +2
        Patriarch Kirill refused to be vaccinated with this vaccine until the end of testing.

        For a person who claims to be a doctor, this is of course an argument. laughing .
        However, after your yesterday's comments about bulk and Roshal, I strongly doubt it ...
        1. Temples
          Temples 8 September 2020 10: 42 New
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          More than 80% of surveyed Russian doctors do not trust this vaccine.


          If you interview yourself, it will be 100 percent.

          All your chatter down the drain.

          There is a vaccine.
          Our scientists are great. good
          Our doctors are great. good

          And the rest is the drool of a mad dog.
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 8 September 2020 11: 43 New
            -1
            Now go and inject ..))

            Most people don't care deeply about this vaccine .. at least ..
            And the rest is chatter .. I agree here ..
            1. Soho
              Soho 8 September 2020 12: 00 New
              -2
              Most people

              How did you come to speak on behalf of "most people"? What is “most people”? The population of the entire globe? A specific state or nation? Did you somehow manage to conduct the survey? Or did you choose focus groups? Let's share. And then we remember who used to shout "the whole world with us" .... Another chatterbox
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 8 September 2020 12: 50 New
                +2
                And right side, and left .. from whatever side he communicated ..
                If at least 10 out of 6 interlocutors do not believe in the virus / are skeptical about the vaccine / have their own opinion on this matter, then the majority already.
                And I had more than 10 "interlocutors" for six months ... and the percentage there is also much higher than 60/40 ..
                Here, I shared ..
                And you, an extraordinary chatterbox, would finally get out of the house, but you reached the nearest magnet and saw how many people there are now wearing masks .. Even those who wear them do it more out of habit, so that suddenly the guard did not fit .. Also in minibuses .. put on only when forced .. Because most just do not care !! At my work, even those who were in a panic mood in the first days, are now tired of all these nonsense about a terrible virus, and do not attach any importance to news ..
                1. Soho
                  Soho 8 September 2020 13: 08 New
                  -3
                  If at least 10 out of 6 interlocutors do not believe in the virus / are skeptical about the vaccine / have their own opinion on this matter, then the majority already.
                  And I had more than 10 "interlocutors" for six months ... and the percentage there is also much higher than 60/40 ..

                  Whom did you interview there? ... And if you are gay and your friends are the same, then we now believe your statements that Most people want to bang in the ass ???? You roll such "statistics" into a tube and then you yourself know what to do. There are specialized companies and organizations that conduct surveys using a special method. And then with a certain margin of error. And only bawlers like you on the basis of sartir conversations can give out "but I know exactly what all the people of the world want"
                2. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 8 September 2020 13: 50 New
                  +3
                  Who did you interview there?
                  Do you name each of them, or selectively ??)
                  And if you are gay and your friends are the same, then we now believe your statements that most people want to fuck in the ass ????

                  And if you are gay and your friends are the same, then I now believe your statements that most people want to fuck in the ass ????

                  You roll up such "statistics" into a tube and then you yourself know what to do.
                  You asked - they answered you .. but you don’t like statistics - roll it up and then you know what to do for yourself ..

                  There are specialized companies and organizations that conduct surveys according to a special method.
                  And you can send the "special technique" to the same place ..))

                  According to these special methods, Putin has a 76% rating, Lukashenka has 80%.
                  And a person is given a head for that, so that not only mindlessly listen to what they say from the box .. And when the people around them say the opposite without any methodology, this is a reason at least to think .. What is not given to people like you ..))

                  And then with a certain margin of error
                  I didn't pretend to be accurate ..)) The general attitude of the people I communicate with is enough for me ..

                  And only bawlers like you on the basis of sartir conversations can give out "but I know exactly what all the people of the world want"
                  You were told not to bawl, but go out of your toilet into the street .. and look around .. maybe at least you will see clearly from your "special methods" ..))


                  Shl .. about "exactly" and "all the people of the world" only you give out .. But what else to expect from the balabol ..
                3. Soho
                  Soho 8 September 2020 13: 55 New
                  -4
                  You're a switchman. I would say so, I would not waste time on another stoned one. Adjosis, defective.
                4. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 8 September 2020 14: 08 New
                  +1
                  Henceforth, it is better to silently streamline .. otherwise they will crawl out, bark something, but when you poke them into their feces with a puff, they begin to whine ..))
                5. Soho
                  Soho 8 September 2020 14: 15 New
                  -4
                  Which rooster began to translate the arrows, and then also declares
                  start to whine

                  Everything is clear with you laughing
                  You can still cough up something one last time - you deserve it)))
                6. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 8 September 2020 14: 32 New
                  +2
                  What rooster started to translate arrows


                  There is only one rooster here .. which at first yelled "which sideways .. let's share" ..
                  When they "shared" with him in all the details, he switched the arrows to what was more urgent for himself - to gays and sticking tubes (well, otherwise he wouldn't be a cock)
                  This rooster, most likely, thought that they would clatter with him here .. now everything will not be rubbed in any way ..
                7. Soho
                  Soho 8 September 2020 14: 50 New
                  -4
                  I see you are doing well laughing you will command "crow" and you let the goiter strain laughing I'm not sure if I like your obedience, but I think those who like trained fools will probably appreciate you lol
                8. Roman13579
                  Roman13579 9 September 2020 08: 56 New
                  +1
                  Pronged .. you like to swallow, as I see ..))
                  You are .. come in again .. such utyrkas need to be put in place more often ..
  • Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 8 September 2020 16: 41 New
    +3
    And I will inject at the first opportunity. I know doctors who treat "monarchs". They say that the "crown" is not close to a pound of raisins and the flu in comparison with it is a game of spillikins. I believe them.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 8 September 2020 11: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: bk316
    However, after your yesterday's comments about bulk and Roshal, I strongly doubt it ...

    Your problems. The ass never licked anyone, and not to see the obvious is stupid
    1. Soho
      Soho 8 September 2020 11: 04 New
      0
      The ass never licked anyone, and not to see the obvious is stupid

      Judging by the content of your comments, a very controversial statement
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2020 03: 53 New
        +6
        Quote: Soho
        Judging by the content of your comments, a very controversial statement

        Well then, your proof is in the studio. As a rule, this is where the "exposure" ends. Are you the same yap or find something?
    2. bk316
      bk316 8 September 2020 12: 54 New
      -2
      not seeing the obvious is stupid

      It is obvious that the special services have thousands of poisons available, hundreds of them are safe for the poisoner (unlike a novice), dozens of them are freely available. Obviously, you have to try very hard not to kill by using BOV on someone. Obviously, the oval is handcrafted and helps power effectively.
      And I didn't lick about it, it is not customary for medical workers to wash dirty linen in public and discuss the actions of an honored specialist on the Internet, not a single self-respecting doctor will.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2020 05: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: bk316
        it is not customary for medical workers to wash dirty linen in public and discuss the actions of a distinguished specialist on the Internet, not a single self-respecting doctor will.

        This is what led to the collapse of medicine. With my ears from 10 meters I heard him praising Skvortsov. His silence also killed more than 600 doctors from the crown. There is a huge gap between the functionaries from medicine and doctors.
        Decency must be observed when it is good, but when it is involved in the collapse and has received dividends, then there is no time for decency.
        Respect must be earned, and if deserved, then cherish, and not exchange for preferences.
        Corporateness was also among the Gestapo. It is fashionable and convenient to cover up negligence, murder, mess.
        I look forward to when his accreditation will disperse the remnants of doctors from hospitals
        1. bk316
          bk316 9 September 2020 12: 05 New
          -3
          This is what led to the collapse of medicine.

          Perhaps I am not their judge.
          But medical corporate ethics has not been canceled.
          Did you write something about your chief surgeon of the Ministry of Defense?
          I have no honor to know him, but I know Igor Markellovich and Vadim Erikovich well. Do you want to discuss this issue in a warm company?
  • Stas157
    Stas157 8 September 2020 16: 33 New
    +7
    Quote: bk316
    For a person who claims to be a doctor[i] [/ i] is of course an argument.
    However, after your yesterday's comments

    My wife is a doctor. And she is also skeptical about the new vaccine. And Sylvester is talking. You should listen, and not question what you absolutely do not understand.

    I am sure that if you are seriously ill, then you are unlikely to question the competence of the doctor treating you, depending on his political preferences ... Well, only if you are not quite warm on your head!))
    1. bk316
      bk316 9 September 2020 11: 55 New
      -2
      You should listen, and not question what you absolutely do not understand.

      Stas, I worked for 3 years at the Gabrichevsky Institute, I was engaged in just models of the spread of epidemics, I read mountains of literature, I probably understand the topic more than you.
      I have 2 acquaintances of doctors of sciences of virology. Excuse me, but I trust their opinion more than the opinion of some unknown doctor Sylvester (apparently the administrator from surgery).
      However, vaccination is a personal matter for everyone and his employer. laughing

      I am sure that if you are seriously ill, you are unlikely to question the competence of the doctor treating you, depending on his political preferences ...

      This is exactly what Sylvester does. He questions Roshal's competence based on his political views (I'm talking about oval).
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 8 September 2020 12: 20 New
    -7
    Quote: Silvestr
    More than 80% of interviewed Russian doctors do not trust this vaccine

    This is LIE what you prove?

    And this nude:
    Patriarch Kirill refused to be vaccinated with this vaccine until the end of testing.
    - have long been denied by: Vladimir Legoida, Chairman of the Synodal Department for Church Relations with Society and the Media of the Moscow Patriarchate, and Acting Head of the Press Service of the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia:

    “The information in the media is categorically not true. Kipshidze expressed his personal opinion on the relevance of the question, and not about the position of the Patriarch, commenting on which is not his competence... All the rest is the speculation of journalists "

    And you spread gossip ... negative
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 8 September 2020 14: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: Olgovich
      This is LIE what you prove?

      bad to be a zombie!
      There is no sensation in the results of the survey, which showed that the majority of Russian doctors do not yet trust the domestic vaccine against coronavirus infection COVID-19. This was stated by the deputy head of the Ministry of Health Oleg Salagay.
      https://koronainfo.ru/news/minzdrav-prokommentiroval-opros-vrachej-o-doverii-k-vakczine-ot-covid-19.html
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 8 September 2020 15: 08 New
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: Overlock
        bad to be a zombie!
        There is no sensation in the results of the survey, which showed that the majority of Russian doctors do not yet trust the domestic vaccine against the coronavirus infection COVID-19.

        To be a jerk is much worse: it was announced already a whole MONTH ago!

        And not 80% was in doubt a month ago, but 52% medics, interviewed by the "Doctor's Handbook" service (RBC has the results), said they were not ready to get vaccinated against coronavirus.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 9 September 2020 15: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: Olgovich
          and 52% of physicians surveyed by the Doctor's Handbook service

          24,5% of doctors agreed to make the vaccine.
          https://www.mk.ru/social/2020/08/14/rossiyskie-mediki-vyskazali-skepsis-v-otnoshenii-vakciny-ot-koronavirusa.html
          Interestingly, from 100 to subtract 24.5 how much is? I think 75.5.
          75.5% of doctors do not recognize the vaccine. Where is the contradiction?
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          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 9 September 2020 17: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Overlock
            24,5% of doctors agreed to make the vaccine.
            https://www.mk.ru/social/2020/08/14/rossiyskie-mediki-vyskazali-skepsis-v-otnoshenii-vakciny-ot-koronavirusa.html


            Consider: Most of the physicians interviewed by the Doctor's Handbook said they were not ready to receive the coronavirus vaccine developed in the Gamaleya center. Out of more than 3000 respondents 52% answered negatively to this question.

            AND ONCE AGAIN: it was a MONTH !!! back!

            Since then, much more information and experience!
      2. VO3A
        VO3A 8 September 2020 19: 07 New
        -5
        And where is the figure of 80%, have you already realized that you are composing too cool and have removed it? Clever boy! You're lying awkwardly ...
  • VO3A
    VO3A 8 September 2020 12: 33 New
    -4
    More than 80% of surveyed Russian doctors do not trust this vaccine.

    Source ?
    Patriarch Kirill is simply afraid ... 80% of the dead in the United States are over 65 years old, although only 7% of them died from coronavirus alone, the rest of them against the background of other diseases with him ?!
    So much for the result!
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 8 September 2020 14: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: VO3A
      Source ?

      Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 8 September 2020 15: 08 New
        -2
        There is no sensation in the results of the survey, which showed that the majority of Russian doctors do not yet trust the domestic vaccine against the coronavirus infection COVID-19.

        Don't be blunt! Source, link to the site!
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 9 September 2020 15: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: VO3A
          Don't be blunt! Source, link to the site!

          YANDEX is a search engine!
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 8 September 2020 12: 43 New
    +1
    Generally speaking, who refused there - their own business.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 8 September 2020 13: 40 New
      +2
      Generally speaking, who refused there - their own business.

      I agree.
      I got a flu shot a week and a half ago.
      There will be a vaccine against covid - I will. And normul.
      The rest of them drool on.
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 8 September 2020 15: 32 New
        -1
        Vaccination is a tricky thing - it guarantees the survival of the population, but not the individual.
        And if this new vaccine reaps its harvest in less than 2 - 3%, then this is a good vaccine.
        But anyone doesn't want to be on the list of losers. wink
        Therefore, it is not worth getting vaccinated constantly to the right and to the left, you need to soberly weigh all the risks before that.
  • Simfy
    Simfy 9 September 2020 00: 08 New
    -2
    Bot, you have at least one familiar physician, preferably a practitioner ... I think not !!! Just go to the "ambulance station" or whatever the place is called in your country ... and do a survey.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 8 September 2020 10: 20 New
    +6
    in the end we get vaccinated against smallpox.
    And from tetanus ...

    Let's compare with leprosy ...
    Viruses change so quickly that the vaccine is 95% effective only in the first epidemic season, and in the second, its effectiveness drops threefold.
    Normal people do not throw tantrums about this.

    You are right, hysterics are not satisfied, but they think and want answers to important questions for themselves. Subcutaneous injection is not a problem, but what happens next ...? Here's a serious question ..
    1. Soho
      Soho 8 September 2020 11: 07 New
      +1
      Subcutaneous injection is not a problem, but what happens next ...? Here's a serious question ..

      Judging by the statements of the liberoids, you will most likely grow a tail and suddenly start praising Putin laughing wink
      Do not try to vaccinate. Love for Putin is much worse than the risk of dying of pneumonia
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 8 September 2020 11: 45 New
        +2
        The risk of dying from pneumonia tends to zero .. you will be hit by a car in the yard before ..
        1. Soho
          Soho 8 September 2020 12: 06 New
          -4
          The risk of dying from pneumonia tends to zero.

          How wonderful that another liberoid has defeated pneumonia with just one word. Hallelujah! It's a pity that the doctors themselves do not know about it. They are trying to treat the sick, fighting for their lives ...
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 8 September 2020 12: 52 New
            +7
            I don't know who won what over there ..
            But if there are doctors who do not know that the risk of dying in an accident is higher than dying from covid, then I recommend you to be treated with them.
            1. Soho
              Soho 8 September 2020 13: 11 New
              -7
              Yap pea, you wrote that death from pneumonia tends to zero. You do not see in your eyes what words I answer?
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 8 September 2020 13: 58 New
                +5
                Pea yap .. Divide the 18 thousand dead in Russia by 140 million .. and multiply by 100% ..
                People like you, until you poke your nose, and do not get a good ride - it does not reach ..
                Even against the background of road traffic deaths, it tends to zero ..
                Even though not everyone there died of covid ..
                Go already sleep it off, otherwise you start to pull phrases out of despair ..))
              2. Soho
                Soho 11 September 2020 23: 32 New
                0
                In 2016, 31 thousand died. Fucking "tends to zero" - more than 3 times the number of murders in Russia in a year. That you don't crow that murders in Russia are tending to zero, you idiot. Your 18 thousand is a death rate from pneumonia in only 9 months of 2019. Such waist-high wooden Buratins as you do not even know how to google. Until you poke your nose, and you do not get a good ride - it does not reach ..
            2. Roman13579
              Roman13579 9 September 2020 08: 57 New
              0
              The calculator is hanging on the elk .. it tries to blind 5 out of twice two ..))
            3. Soho
              Soho 11 September 2020 23: 39 New
              0
              A piece of substance that is periodically thrown onto the fan thinks that I'm only doing it, that I'm waiting for how to answer the next down
  • New Year day
    New Year day 9 September 2020 03: 57 New
    +5
    Quote: Soho
    Judging by the statements of the liberoids, you will most likely grow a tail and suddenly start praising Putin
    Do not try to vaccinate. Love for Putin is much worse than the risk of dying of pneumonia

    Severe clinical case! You have all the liberals and Putin. Change the record, do not disgrace
    1. Soho
      Soho 11 September 2020 23: 40 New
      0
      Because you settled here in such a plump diaspora. And Putin is your favorite bone, which you gnaw from topic to topic. At least try to look at yourself from the outside
  • New Year day
    New Year day 8 September 2020 11: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: Doccor18
    Subcutaneous injection is not a problem, but what happens next ...?

    Vaccination against poliomyelitis in children sometimes causes paralysis in the vaccinated. And everything has been tested and verified for a long time. And children become disabled
    1. Soho
      Soho 8 September 2020 12: 15 New
      -4
      And children become disabled

      Anyone who has even a drop of common sense should understand that without a vaccine, the risk of contracting poliemilitis and not only becoming disabled, but also dying is many times greater than the risk of side effects of vaccination.
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 8 September 2020 12: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      Vaccination against poliomyelitis in children sometimes causes paralysis in the vaccinated. And everything has been tested and verified for a long time. And children become disabled

      in 1952, 57 polio cases were reported in the United States. and in 879 there were only 1972.

      You are in favor of increasing the incidence of this disease 2 times (and paralysis, respectively)?
    3. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 8 September 2020 13: 43 New
      0
      Vaccination against poliomyelitis in children sometimes causes paralysis in the vaccinated. And everything has been tested and verified for a long time. And children become disabled

      Do you have such a familiar paralytic? Or did they say on the internet? I have not a single victim of vaccination from the environment. And you probably too. But ... Somewhere he is. After all, somewhere everyone heard.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2020 03: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Interlocutor
        Do you have such a familiar paralytic?

        My wife is a pediatric neurologist who treats such kids. Does it suit you?
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 9 September 2020 14: 25 New
          -1
          Does she treat the kids affected by the vaccine?
  • Kart
    Kart 8 September 2020 10: 29 New
    +1
    But what about the fight against the regime?
    Their goal is not to accept or do anything that the regime suggests.
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 9 September 2020 07: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: Temples
    If a teacher infects thirty or forty students this is not a game of spillikins.

    Will not infect. Children do not get infected at all or get sick in an asymptomatic form. But getting an autoimmune reaction will not break the statistics. Will refuse something from the organs, well if the pancreas, you can safely live out your time on insulin. And if the liver - well, the teacher will die, but it's not from a virus! 100% report to the director will not spoil.
    I heard a lot of teachers say "well nafig", "let them fire." Those who understand how it threatens them.
  • Romey
    Romey 8 September 2020 10: 14 New
    0
    So this is understandable limitations ... However, the bosses have persistent recommendations about family members. And this is different. I personally turned around the spouse's bosses, they themselves understood where, and I will limit myself to the standard seasonal flu vaccine.
  • alexmach
    alexmach 8 September 2020 11: 25 New
    +2
    Also, if the job is associated with a high risk of infectious diseases, they can refuse employment, or be suspended from existing work ...

    If, for example, a teacher or a medical worker can be suspended from work for refusing to be vaccinated, then as if vaccination is never voluntary :)
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 8 September 2020 11: 36 New
    +2
    may refuse employment, or be suspended from existing work ...


    Well, so the person wrote it ..
    The bosses have already told my wife at work at school to 100 percent when they bring it ..
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 09: 31 New
    -4
    The first wife is also at school - they have already made the suggestion.
    In general, it's already ridiculous from the absurdity - 8 months from the beginning of development to the start of mass vaccination. Rave. Who will be responsible for a possible side effect?
    1. VO3A
      VO3A 8 September 2020 09: 50 New
      +2
      Where are you from? The vaccine was developed on a platform that has been researched for 20 years ... Does this mean something to you? This is already the third real development .. I will not talk about the characteristics and origin ... If a person has a side effect in his head, it is difficult to help him!
      1. Harry.km
        Harry.km 8 September 2020 09: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: VO3A
        This is already the 3rd real development

        And neither the 1st nor the 2nd "development" passed the third stage of testing!
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 05 New
          0
          Did the pi_ndos tell you this? This Ebola vaccine did not go through stage 3? Stop pouring water on someone else's mill!
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 00 New
            +4
            Quote: VO3A
            Did the pi_ndos tell you this? This Ebola vaccine is not

            In order not to seem stupid, still study the issue on the materials of the WHO.
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 8 September 2020 10: 10 New
        -1
        Quote: VO3A
        Where are you from? The vaccine is developed on a platform that has been researched for 20 years.

        did you know about the "crown" then? funny ... because of new strains of flu they don't have time to do it, but here you are ...
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 14 New
          -2
          There is no need to demonstrate your own dullness, if you do not know and do not understand the issue, read the description first, and turn on the brain ...
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 8 September 2020 10: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: VO3A
            There is no need to demonstrate your own dullness, if you do not know and do not understand the issue, read the description first, and turn on the brain ...

            what is your doctorate?
            1. Soho
              Soho 8 September 2020 11: 12 New
              -2
              what is your doctorate?

              Do you, dear one, have it? What gives you a reason to vote "niver"?
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            3. bk316
              bk316 8 September 2020 13: 02 New
              -1
              what is your doctorate

              Grandpa, and you just didn't sleep like a child. belay
              There are no doctoral degrees in the Russian Federation.
              There are scientific (academic) titles and degrees.
              But the concept of a doctoral degree exists in the United States.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 48 New
                +2
                Quote: bk316
                But the concept of a doctoral degree exists in the United States.

                Here is the trouble laughing Here are just the creators of the imperfection rushed into theirs Lancet for advertising their product and did not disdain their degrees
                1. bk316
                  bk316 9 September 2020 12: 11 New
                  -2
                  Here are just the creators of the imperfection rushed into theirs Lancet for advertising

                  All the same, you are not a doctor, otherwise you would know why you need to publish in the lancet.
                  Have you heard anything about evidence-based medicine?
          2. Roman070280
            Roman070280 8 September 2020 11: 46 New
            +3
            You yourself would not be a disgrace to begin with ..))
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          3. New Year day
            New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 01 New
            +4
            Quote: VO3A
            and turn on the brain

            It can be seen as you turned it on laughing The smoke is coming down
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 8 September 2020 11: 30 New
          +7
          did you know about the "crown" then?

          Well, in fact, they knew that Coronaviruses are a well-known type of viruses and the possibility of their epidemics was predicted several years ago. The same SARS 10 years ago was also caused by some kind of coronavirus.
      3. Soho
        Soho 8 September 2020 10: 53 New
        -1
        Where are you from? The vaccine is developed on a platform that has been researched for 20 years..

        Yes, do not interfere with liberoids frolicking. From article to article they chew on the same stamp - "niveria". How the smallpox vaccine was developed and how it was taken they are too lazy to read. Probably these pea jesters think that smallpox vaccines were approved by the WHO procedure
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 8 September 2020 09: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Who will be responsible for a possible side effect?

      There are few cases when the medicines are all, everything, the tests have passed, and then AH, AH, then one will come out, then another and ala ulyu, the medicine that is prescribed, taken for YEARS, removed and withdrawn!
      As the "good doctor" said, this is a WAR TIME vaccine !!! because she is needed here and now ... OTHERS will come to replace her!
      A person will always doubt, but at this point in time, there are no options, choices! Therefore the condition VOLUNTARILY the most justified, at the moment!
      But again, as the "good doctor" said, we must all decide to vaccinate in sufficient / necessary quantity NOW or wait for something there !!!
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 09 New
        -2
        Are you a normal member of the forum, or you just have little information? They've been telling you for a month, and you're like ... a simpleton!
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 8 September 2020 10: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: VO3A
          Are you a normal member of the forum, or you just have little information? They've been telling you for a month, and you're like ... a simpleton!

          HA, a simpleton, a simpleton, but I have my own three-piece every day !!!
          Considering myself a helluva lot of clever, harmful delusion ... life has long and forever weaned me from this!
    3. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 8 September 2020 10: 11 New
      -3
      Stop crying then? Before that, your whole gang wrote in the comments that "nothing is being done, but under Stalin." Now you are crying that "too fast". You will already decide what is long and what is short tongue
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 September 2020 10: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Stop crying then?

        Who is the claim?
        To all at once, or what?
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 8 September 2020 12: 49 New
          -6
          See the arrow for the answer? Ingvar. He is from the cohort of those who are always crying and waiting to leave.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 8 September 2020 13: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Okolotochny
            He is from the cohort of those who are always crying and waiting to leave.

            Interestingly, if you count how many and what main groups we have here ... by interes ???
            It is unlikely that there will be only two, such as FOR and AGAINST.
            I think the group of doubters is not the smallest!
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 8 September 2020 10: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Okolotochny
        Stop crying then? Before that, your whole gang wrote in the comments that "nothing is being done, but under Stalin." Now you are crying that "too fast". You will already decide what is long and what is short tongue

        yes "expand" what you want ... do not care.
        1. Romey
          Romey 8 September 2020 11: 28 New
          +2
          This is what we are talking about ... Running at breakneck speed to get vaccinated, not properly tested and hastily made, is simply stupid. No, I would understand if the risk was comparable to the lethality of pneumonic plague, Siberian worm or the same Ebola, then yes, this vaccination would be justified. And here, after 30 years of continuous degradation of domestic medicine in general and microbiology in particular, injecting yourself with this drug, thank you, citizens of United Russia, I trust you with this honor. Moreover, knowing how we do everything according to the principle: to steal 70%, and for the remaining 30%, to pile something so that you can show on TV and report on a bright victory.
          1. bk316
            bk316 8 September 2020 13: 06 New
            -4
            just silly.

            It's just silly to talk about what you don't understand at all (I'm talking about the degradation of microbiology). But you are reasoning, so you can completely run, just don't prick yourself laughing - there is no vaccine on the free market and will not be available until the end of the third stage of testing.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 14: 49 New
              +2
              Quote: bk316
              It's just stupid to talk about what you don't understand at all

              It is foolish not to think about the possible consequences.
              Deaths from covid are in the region of deaths from seasonal flu, and panic is inflated like in the plague. The vaccine was created in the shortest possible time, and its mass use is already being proposed, despite the fact that it has not yet been released all over the world.
              I don't know about you, but I look at things realistically, and against the background of Russia's lagging behind in absolutely all areas, the "breakthrough" in the creation of a vaccine is very suspicious. Moreover, statements about its successful test.
              1. bk316
                bk316 8 September 2020 15: 34 New
                -6
                lagging behind Russia in absolutely all areas

                This is already enough not to talk to you because you cannot cure a pot of head-heads, this is for life.
                Live in a fantasy world (covid deaths in the region of seasonal flu deaths).
                And maybe life will cure you, I wish you to get sick with the corona in a serious form, but be sure to survive, although this does not cure some.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 15: 50 New
                  +5
                  Quote: bk316
                  I wish you to get the crown in a difficult

                  You see, you are already sick, with complications on your head, in terms of elementary human qualities.
                  Except you have nothing, you can't refute banal numbers with numbers.
                  1. bk316
                    bk316 8 September 2020 15: 58 New
                    -4
                    You cannot refute banal numbers with numbers.

                    The words "everywhere" "always" "absolutely" are not refuted by numbers - these are not facts, they are abstractions.
                    Well, I can write to you about the nuclear icebreaker fleet, which no one else has except us. But you still won't leave your cozy little world ...
                    Well, there can be nothing advanced in this country gas station. Live on with this confidence.
                  2. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 16: 09 New
                    +4
                    I'm talking about Thomas (mortality), you tell me about Eremu (icebreakers). fool
                  3. bk316
                    bk316 8 September 2020 16: 42 New
                    -1
                    I'm talking about Thomas (mortality), you tell me about Eremu (icebreakers).

                    Will Rosstat data suit you? Or is a jellyfish more reliable for you?

                    So 2018 people died from the flu in 473.
                    From the crown in less than a year 4900.
                    Since the population of the Russian Federation has not changed much.
                    The mortality from the coronavirus is MORE THAN 10 TIMES THAT THE MORTALITY FROM THE INFLUENZA.
                    So see? What else can I tell you about?
                  4. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 20: 18 New
                    +5
                    Quote: bk316
                    So 2018 people died from the flu in 473.

                    Yes, yes, I know how the flu is diagnosed. Doctors openly say that they are not allowed to diagnose influenza, they are diagnosed with SARS.
                    The second - the crown was given to everyone in a row, and money was paid to relatives for agreeing with the diagnosis.
                    And now the third - if you have at least a little bit of critical perception of information, then you should know that people do not die directly from covid or from the flu. They are dying of complications that Rosstat writes for the sake of interested parties.
                    I have never been guided by Medusa, but given the Golunov case, there is more confidence in her.
                    I follow the statistics from foreign sources.
                    As I understand it, it is useless to explain something to you, you are either a paid troll, or just a blind and deaf person who is more important for his ideals than the fate of the Motherland.
                    Therefore, I want to leave, wish you health, and ask you not to bother me anymore.
                  5. sniperino
                    sniperino 8 September 2020 20: 43 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I follow the statistics from foreign sources.
                    Like, they are better informed about our (!) Disease statistics, are politically unbiased and incorruptible? It's even interesting how they collect it.
                  6. New Year day
                    New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 39 New
                    +4
                    Quote: sniperino
                    Like, they are better informed about our (!) Disease statistics, are politically unbiased and incorruptible? It's even interesting how they collect it.

                    Then an example for filling! You go to the local therapist with a sore and ask: what is the better treatment - ours or imported ones. Delov something
                  7. sniperino
                    sniperino 9 September 2020 07: 50 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Quote: sniperino
                    Like, they are better informed about our (!) Disease statistics, are politically unbiased and incorruptible? It's even interesting how they collect it.
                    Then an example for filling! You go to the local therapist with a sore and ask: what is the better treatment - ours or imported ones. Delov something
                    Got it! Then such legionnaires inform the NGO "how many doctors told them" all sorts of garbage, and - voila! - the statistics are ready ... From THIS they suck "disease statistics" and feed you with it ?! Mark Twain said about them in the 19th century: "There are lies, blatant lies and statistics." This is where the indigestion of the brain comes from in the local all-friars.
                  8. sniperino
                    sniperino 9 September 2020 08: 05 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Then an example for filling!
                    So it is, you fell asleep with your example.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: bk316
              What else can I tell you about?

              Then comment on the latest message from Rospotrebnadzor on the manipulation of medical facilities with statistics on mortality from covid. They themselves admitted. Are you Rosstat laughing
              They lied, they lie and they will lie
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: bk316
      I wish you a severe corona disease,

      Themselves then drifted, rushed into isolation in an epidemic. And hands and such smart were so lacking in Moscow laughing
      Those who participated in the epidemic, and not those who sat behind the fence, can speak categorically. Although, the real heroes come from behind
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 8 September 2020 12: 50 New
    -7
    yes "expand" what you want ... do not care.



    Don't forget to have a hangover. Further along Lavrov. fool
  • New Year day
    New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 03 New
    +4
    Quote: Dead Day
    yes "expand" what you want ... do not care.

    They should be vaccinated, rabbits are now in short supply
  • New Year day
    New Year day 8 September 2020 10: 12 New
    +7
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Who will be responsible for a possible side effect?

    No one. Everyone is born and dies alone
    1. Soho
      Soho 8 September 2020 11: 01 New
      -3
      No one. Everyone is born and dies alone

      Well, unless you hatched from some monitor lizard's egg. And a woman gives birth to a child and he is no longer alone.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 8 September 2020 11: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Soho
        And a woman gives birth to a child and he is no longer alone.

        Then they forgot about the midwife and the pathologist
        1. Soho
          Soho 8 September 2020 11: 08 New
          -3
          That's it. But not everyone is lucky with both. wink
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 03 New
            +3
            Quote: Soho
            But not everyone is lucky with both.

            It's personal laughing ?
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 8 September 2020 10: 26 New
    +5
    Who will be responsible for a possible side effect?

    No one. You, in all the central mass media, have clearly and repeatedly explained that there are no side effects for all vaccinated military personnel. So you don't have to worry.
    And what will be the real consequences for the human body, after the illness and subsequent vaccinations, we will find out in 3-15 years.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 8 September 2020 11: 33 New
      +1
      And what will be the real consequences for the human body, after the illness and subsequent vaccinations, we will find out in 3-15 years.

      You will forgive, but if there are no negative consequences immediately after vaccination or illness, then after 3-5 years there is nothing to wait for them.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 14: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: alexmach
        in 3-5 years there is nothing to wait for them.

        You shouldn't think so. The internet is full of examples of the opposite. Even in the light of democracy ( laughing ) there were applicants when the vaccine was recognized as dangerous several years after the start of vaccination.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 8 September 2020 15: 21 New
          +1
          You shouldn't think so. The internet is full of examples of the opposite. Even in the beacon of democracy

          Examples of the fact that for several years everything was in order and then it went bang? Because of the vaccination? Somehow I don't really believe.
          there were applicants when the vaccine was recognized as dangerous several years after the start of vaccination.

          The vaccine can be considered dangerous. We collected enough data, found complications that were not immediately detected. But such that for several years nothing was visible and then backfired, well, somehow it's hard to believe to be honest.
          1. bk316
            bk316 8 September 2020 17: 57 New
            0
            about such that for several years nothing could be seen and then backfired, well, somehow it's hard to believe to be honest.

            And what is there to believe or not ... You ask for a proof. laughing
            Only he won't answer. Because there is no such thing as "recognized as dangerous". I repeat 101 times: every medicine and every vaccine has a statistical description of a side effect. There are categories "very rarely" and "in isolated cases" there are such probabilities that millions of uses are needed to be discovered. Indeed, some drugs took years. Somehow these specialists, who read the Internet for half an hour and imagine themselves as pharmacists and microbiologists, begin to make me angry.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 8 September 2020 22: 05 New
              +1
              every drug and every vaccine has a statistical description of the side effect.

              This is understandable, as well as the fact that the statistics back to specific cases are not generalized.

              I'm just talking about a specific case. If a person has been vaccinated and immediately after vaccination everything is in order with him, there is not even a visible change in health, then it is simply stupid to be afraid of complications in a couple of years. Complications after vaccinations are usually immediately after.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 36 New
              +3
              Quote: bk316
              Indeed some drugs took years

              So do the research in accordance with the WHO requirement.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: alexmach
        if there are no negative consequences immediately after vaccination or illness, then after 3-5 years there is nothing to wait for them.

        Speaking of allergies! The reaction is of an immediate and delayed type, in addition, reactions and complications are distinguished. And our serum is designed, according to the authors, to be effective for 2 years. So there is no need to wait 5 years
  • bk316
    bk316 8 September 2020 12: 25 New
    -3
    In general, it's already ridiculous from the absurdity - 8 months from the beginning of development to the start of mass vaccination.

    Well, laugh further. ALL vaccines both American and Jewish and English will be released on an accelerated basis in 9-11 months. With such a time frame, long-term results cannot be observed. Accordingly, no one will answer. Do you think that someone is responsible for the side effects of vaccines that have passed the standard procedure?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 14: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: bk316
      Do you think that someone is responsible for the side effects of vaccines that have passed the standard procedure?

      But they should.
      1. bk316
        bk316 8 September 2020 15: 40 New
        -4
        But they should.

        Nobody owes you anything. Remember, once and for all, no one ever anywhere in the world is responsible for the side effects of the use of drugs and vaccines. All that is done is writing the probabilistic characteristics of certain side effects AND THESE EFFECTS CAN BE DEADLY. You don’t want to don’t eat.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 15: 48 New
          +6
          Quote: bk316
          You don’t want to don’t eat.

          I don’t want to. But where, then, is the real voluntariness of vaccination? She's not there, they are forced to work
          A topic for you to think about - in the late 80s, in Latin America, WHO specialists were caught by the hand, proving that the tetanus vaccine has infertility as a side effect. The vaccine was given mainly to women of childbearing age. The vaccination program was curtailed, the scandal was hushed up, although the intent was traced.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 34 New
          +5
          Quote: bk316
          Remember, once and for all, no one ever anywhere in the world is responsible for the side effects of the use of medicines and vaccines.

          But indicate the possibility of their development
          Then the person makes a conscious decision. And if you listen to you, then the imperfection has no reactions and complications. I agree! But they are not there because the authors did not study this issue. They will instill the population and pass a verdict. And who suffered - well, it happens, not lucky laughing
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: bk316
      ALL vaccines both American and Jewish and English will be released on an accelerated basis in 9-11 months

      Hanged up! Ours was created in 6 months and nothing laughing 11 is more than 6 in my opinion laughing
  • Harry.km
    Harry.km 8 September 2020 09: 55 New
    -7
    Quote: romey
    so that everything is 100 percent

    It's a matter of luck, 50% will get some water and salt ... If, of course, the tests are real, double randomized))
    1. VO3A
      VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 07 New
      +4
      Yes, it's a matter of luck, and with the head too! Some are lucky, others think a stranger!
      1. Harry.km
        Harry.km 8 September 2020 10: 11 New
        -1
        Quote: VO3A
        and with the head too

        Dear patriot of everything in the Kremlin, do you understand that the third stage of the TESTS has now begun? At this stage, half of the "volunteers" will receive water and stress, and half the real test subject slurry and the same stress. And tell us about Ebola, where did the 3rd stage of testing take place, in your head or in the training manual?)))
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 19 New
          -1
          Your incompetence in this matter borders on stupidity, you will figure out what it is about, on the basis of which the vaccine has been developed and then draw your own conclusions ... You don’t know, you don’t understand, you don’t want to think, you better be silent! An empty set of words, not a grain of information, some conclusions are unfounded!
          1. Harry.km
            Harry.km 8 September 2020 10: 26 New
            -3
            Quote: VO3A
            Your incompetence in this matter borders on stupidity, you will figure out what it is about, on the basis of which the vaccine has been developed and then draw your own conclusions ... You don’t know, you don’t understand, you don’t want to think, you better be silent!

            This also applies to you. About Ebola, where is the answer? Your doctoral degree, as I understand it, is 80 lvl?

            "Gam-Evac" and "Gam-Evac Combi"
            According to the government procurement website, medical institutions were required to conduct tests on 92 healthy people for 49 days. These were studies of only the first and second phases: that is, screening, the task of which is to ensure the safety of the drug, as well as to check its effectiveness within a group of about 100 people. Without the third stage of research, which involves at least 300 of patients, it is impossible to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of any drug.

            Doesn't it look like anything? And then everything ... zilch, as the fever took over and ended.

            And in 19 we learn the following:
            For the first time, the World Health Organization (WHO) has recognized the Ebola vaccine as meeting high standards of quality, safety and efficacy. The move is intended to accelerate its licensing and use in countries threatened by the spread of the virus, the WHO said in a November 12 statement in Geneva.
            This is the Ervedo vaccine produced by the pharmaceutical company Merck. It has been proven to be effective against the Zairian strain of the Ebola virus. It is recommended for use by the Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE) as part of a wide range of tools for responding to a dangerous disease.
            1. VO3A
              VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 34 New
              +2
              You are like a parrot! What is the basis for the vaccine? You know? Is it new or not quite? Are there enough leading questions? Answer me, mister repeater, basically! Or weak, and stuck at the 3rd stage?
              1. Harry.km
                Harry.km 8 September 2020 10: 42 New
                0
                Quote: VO3A
                Are there enough leading questions?

                Well ... earlier trolls were more versed in the subject)))
                I'm not a doctor, I'm an ordinary man in the street, I broadcast what I read on the Internet and not only in the .ru zone. Maybe he didn't translate correctly or read the fake ... Explain to me what really happened with the Ebola vaccine, and what you need to know for those who "voluntarily" allow themselves to pour themselves a slurry from the "crown" of the same manufacturer and made according to the same patterns. Enough questions, let's get answers!
                You do not pull 80lvl ...
                1. VO3A
                  VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 49 New
                  -1
                  You are very scientific, narrowly oriented, broadcast something in a special way ... All your scribbles do not relate to the essence of the question, your clever answers are empty and do not contain information and no more than the background ... I filter such verbiage and scientific flood clearly ... A lot of words, in fact - nothing !!!
                  Again:
                  What is the basis for the vaccine? You know? Is it new or not quite? Are there enough leading questions? Answer me, mister repeater, basically! Or weak and stuck
                  1. Harry.km
                    Harry.km 8 September 2020 10: 54 New
                    0
                    Quote: VO3A
                    very scientific, narrowly oriented

                    A victim of the exam? ))) Sorry, I thought you were older ... Good luck. Good luck in vaccination (wait until the French vaccine is delivered, it has already gone to the 3rd stage and will cost from 2.5 to 10 euros).

                    PS Insulin, real "gourmets" also prefer French. God grant you, you will never know the difference!
                  2. VO3A
                    VO3A 8 September 2020 10: 58 New
                    -1
                    No need to go to the toilet upside down, dear! All that you could, or rather could not, you said! Complete zero! You are not interesting to me for your limitations!
                    You are working out badly, or you are earning! Or just a one-time handout! Yours will lay down here and see how you've done it!
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 11 New
              +3
              Quote: VO3A
              What is the basis for the vaccine?

              On the basis of what were the Zhiguli created? How did they differ from Fiat?
          2. Soho
            Soho 8 September 2020 12: 56 New
            -3
            Without the third stage of research, which involves at least 300 patients, it is impossible to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of any drug.

            To develop a vaccine against smallpox, the Englishman Jenner had enough observation of a dozen milkmaids and one boy. If he was guided by your delirium, then in Europe for another century, the people would be a measure of smallpox
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 14: 58 New
              +5
              And to compare mortality from smallpox and from coronavirus, does your processor have enough power? Is it infectious?
              1. Soho
                Soho 11 September 2020 23: 51 New
                0
                Have you tried to think with your head instead of experience? I am writing about HOW it was taken smallpox vaccine, not its virulence or lethality. At the time of the invention of the smallpox vaccine, there was no WHO, no test procedures and methods. But vaccines against diphtheria and smallpox were accepted and saved by millions. And every fool is now whining through the sites: oh oh, there was no third round, so the vaccine is not real "
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 12 September 2020 07: 04 New
                  +1
                  Yes, inject yourself with arsenic, your problems. And think what you want. wink
                  Just do not need to sniff the rest of the untested vaccine, singing along to the official media and officials from the Ministry of Health, who lie without blushing. On which they were repeatedly caught.
                2. Soho
                  Soho 26 September 2020 19: 18 New
                  0
                  At least I think, unlike the stupid animal writing "akhtung, without the 3rd stage a vaccine is not a vaccine"
                3. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 26 September 2020 19: 52 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Soho
                  At least I think, unlike a stupid animal,

                  Based on your comments, this statement is very far from the truth. wink
  • paul3390
    paul3390 8 September 2020 16: 30 New
    +5
    I would suggest, first of all, to vaccinate the most valuable part of nonesh society - deputies of all stripes, officials, other people of sovereigns, priests, liberals, bourgeois, etc. .. And we, orphans, while we see what happens ..
  • AleBors
    AleBors 8 September 2020 09: 19 New
    -15 qualifying.
    The genocide has begun
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 September 2020 09: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: AleBors
      The genocide has begun

      You wanted to say, "The census of the very especially alternatively gifted."
      1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Kart
      Kart 8 September 2020 10: 31 New
      +1
      Yes, it started.
      Revolutionaries and Putin-haters will not be vaccinated.
      They will simply die of illness.
      1. Soho
        Soho 8 September 2020 12: 58 New
        -2
        Revolutionaries and Putin-haters will not be vaccinated.
        They will simply die of illness.

        This is called natural selection. So evolution relieves the environment of non-viable individuals and dead-end branches of development.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 15: 04 New
          +4
          Quote: Soho
          This is called natural selection.

          Natural selection means the opposite. tongue The use of drugs allows various types of degenerates to survive. wink
          1. Soho
            Soho 11 September 2020 23: 54 New
            0
            Unfortunately, people like you will definitely survive
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: Soho
          So evolution relieves the environment of non-viable individuals and dead-end branches of development.

          Judging by the development of our economy and healthcare, evolution has bypassed our government laughing she is again at a dead end, the selection will affect everyone without exception .. and you too
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Carte
        They will simply die of illness.

        Or maybe they will watch how opponents will writhe in agony at the current level of our medicine?
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 September 2020 09: 24 New
    +1
    Voluntary, fact. In the queue still go and sign up ... No informational stuffing did not deceive the people ...
    Written ...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 8 September 2020 09: 33 New
      +4
      Budget workers will tell you otherwise.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 September 2020 09: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Budget workers will tell you otherwise.

        Workers from RISK GROUPS! There is a choice, really sour .... get out of risk groups.
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 8 September 2020 12: 01 New
          +3
          "Go to work in business" (c)
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 8 September 2020 12: 54 New
            +3
            And sho, in business the bosses are such, just such that they will leave this business to chance ???
            We have a private enterprise, but vaccination is always carried out by everyone and at once !!! with the exception of medical contraindications!
            Here's not to go to the grandmother, that this time everything will be carried out as always ... yes, we have a full-fledged item, our own, has all the necessary permissions!
            By the way, all measures to protect against infection, we carried out tough! no one wants to fly in for de-bonuses!
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 8 September 2020 09: 56 New
      +2
      It's good to listen to all sorts of tales. I really wanted to record. Figushki, in the first place, did not hit. Wait, you will be informed ... I do not work on a budget, not a teacher or a doctor ...
      1. bk316
        bk316 8 September 2020 13: 13 New
        -1
        I really wanted to record.

        What a naive you, I didn't even twitch, it is clear that there are 10 volunteers per place.
        But I advise you to wait for the vaccine from the vector. They will go on free sale with Gamaleevskaya at about the same time. You can choose.
        By the way, for liberoids (not wanting to write a separate comment): the vaccine from the vector is tested according to the standard scheme and will go into civilian circulation after the third phase of testing.
        .
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: bk316
          after the third phase of testing.

          Then we will discuss, naturalist. Themselves, then 100 km from Moscow, self-insulated, you are the first to have an imperfection and introduce laughing For realism laughing
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 8 September 2020 10: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Are written

      On health.
  • askort154
    askort154 8 September 2020 09: 35 New
    -5
    The first batch of vaccine for the prevention of new coronavirus infection "Gam-Covid-Vac"

    " GAM-Covid-Vak " ... Horror! From such an abbreviation, not only COVID will bend, but also potency. crying
    1. Kart
      Kart 8 September 2020 10: 32 New
      0
      And the color of the ampoules? What is the color of the ampoules?
      Probably wrong, all the damned oligarchs.
  • unhappy
    unhappy 8 September 2020 09: 37 New
    +5
    Trump promised a vaccine for the new year, too fast?
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 September 2020 09: 52 New
    +1
    How many obscurantists are there in the comments! .. And you cannot call them the victims of the Unified State Exam, since they are terribly proud of their Soviet education. However, the horse is clearly not fed.
  • The Little Humpbacked Horse
    The Little Humpbacked Horse 8 September 2020 09: 55 New
    +4
    And why the vaccine is being taken to the regions, it seems to me first that the vaccine should be tested on Muscovites, because they have the main focus of coronavirus disease there.
    1. Well done
      Well done 8 September 2020 10: 32 New
      0
      It would be nice to have a vaccine on the black market, immeasurably expensive, but instead of it there was poison. Can you imagine how many different kinds of thieves "workers" will lose the Motherland ?! laughing
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 8 September 2020 12: 03 New
      +1
      I support .. On Muscovites first .. preferably on the Kremlin and Ruble ..
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: Humpbacked Horse
      they have the main focus of coronavirus disease there

      We were late. The infection went to the regions
  • Termit1309
    Termit1309 8 September 2020 10: 04 New
    -2
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Budget workers will tell you otherwise.

    Well, yes, they have already announced. Who from the state employees will not agree to the vaccination will be shot.
    And tanks.
    1. Romey
      Romey 8 September 2020 11: 47 New
      +1
      No, they won't shoot. They just get fired.
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 8 September 2020 10: 09 New
    +6
    Mom, dad, grandfather, aunt - all were doctors .... I am an ardent supporter of all vaccines. But with this I will wait a bit until they approve and the state buys one that has passed all the tests. This year I will vaccinate myself against old but actual flu flu, which can also be hard. And next year, if there are no side effects from the new vaccine, then I will be thrashing about it. Painfully, the whole world in a hurry bungled vaccines for children and that there was no particular trust, both in the state and in the pharmaceutical concerns.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 September 2020 12: 45 New
      -2
      Thirty countries have trust - and you are not getting old, so it’s scary.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 8 September 2020 13: 02 New
        +5
        Thirty countries have trust - and you are not getting old, so it’s scary.


        If I hadn’t grown old, why would I need to get myself a flu vaccine? laughing
        When I was young, I watched children with flu from a high bell tower ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 September 2020 15: 48 New
          0
          "Yes, if I hadn't grown old" - I think this problem in this century will be partially solved the same - a vaccine against aging in the year 2090.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: Vadim237
        30 countries have trust

        Maybe you need to indicate their standard of living and the level of health care? Africa will rush at your feet
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 8 September 2020 21: 44 New
      +1
      Yes with your winked
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      I'll wait a little,

      Quote: Keyser Soze
      that there is no particular trust
      ... someone managed, in one war, to reach Moscow with the Wehrmacht, and Berlin with the Red Army laughing
  • Well done
    Well done 8 September 2020 10: 17 New
    0
    And it pisses me off that they started vaccinating in Moscow yesterday. Regions to the side! I live in Tula, I work in the military-industrial complex. Every day at the checkpoints to my native plant, I see hundreds of colleagues, the overwhelming majority without masks, etc. Distance is out of the question. Sanitizers - have not seen. But Zhirinovsky and the Prime Minister of Belarus are healthy ...
    1. Nadrub
      Nadrub 8 September 2020 11: 18 New
      +4
      On the contrary, you need to rejoice! The main thing is to look at the situation from the right perspective.
      First, the Muscovites will be tested, if everything is fine, then the rest :)
    2. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 8 September 2020 11: 22 New
      +1
      + humpbacked horse
      Today, 09: 55

      And why the vaccine is being taken to the regions, it seems to me first that the vaccine should be tested on Muscovites, because they have the main focus of coronavirus disease there.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 8 September 2020 10: 27 New
    0
    By and large, it is necessary to vaccinate Moscow, St. Petersburg and a couple of three millionaires, and in the regions just keep a close watch on the flows of tourists.
    And so that the seasonal flu does not overlap with the pandemic with Covid 19, the heating must be turned on in the fall earlier. But this will not work, there the money was cut for the entire heating season earlier !!!
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 8 September 2020 10: 28 New
    -3
    She could not pass the 3rd phase of the test in such a time. Again word games - "registered" meant "registered for the beginning of the 3rd phase of testing", and "release into civilian circulation" what does it mean - the beginning of this very 3rd phase?
    1. Simfy
      Simfy 9 September 2020 00: 12 New
      -1
      are you a pharmacist or registration information from the New York Times website?
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 9 September 2020 01: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Simfy
        are you a pharmacist


        Not. You don't have to be a pharmacist to know about the stages of vaccine testing.

        Quote: Simfy
        registration information from the New York Times website?


        From the official website Sputnik V.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: Eye of the Crying
      She could not pass the 3rd phase of trials in such a time

      So the WHO for this reason does not register it, but ours do not care and rake in the face bang-bang. Sadomasochists or stupid?
  • yfast
    yfast 8 September 2020 10: 54 New
    +3
    Why vaccinate only teachers and doctors? I would suggest first of all to instill the whole tax.
    1. ender
      ender 8 September 2020 11: 01 New
      +1
      we must start with the legislators. this is the most valuable part of society
  • ender
    ender 8 September 2020 11: 00 New
    -1
    good news. more beta testers. very good news
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 8 September 2020 11: 14 New
    +6
    Abroad, the vaccine must be supplied complete with a bottle of "Stolichnaya" and an application form for the willingness to cooperate with the state security bodies of the Russian Federation :)))))
  • Termit1309
    Termit1309 8 September 2020 12: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: romey
    No, they won't shoot. They just get fired.

    Dada will be fired and then shot, and in their place will be hired guest workers from Tajikistan. Stop talking nonsense.
    Spend billions of rubles specifically to vaccinate everyone. And all ett from pure sadism. To drive away from the side. Oh well.
    1. Romey
      Romey 8 September 2020 13: 38 New
      +1
      Gyyy ... Do you not admit that billions of rubles (the key word, by the way) were spent not in order to vaccinate someone, but in order to cram them into the stash of interested persons? Well, as for sadism ... Yes, what a garbage, if something goes wrong, then they did not fit into the market and take jobs of highly qualified specialists from Central Asia. The main thing is billions. Are you talking nonsense? Yes, we have been living in this delirium for 30 years now ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 September 2020 14: 09 New
    0
    The COVID-19 pandemic demonstrates what we all (already) know: millennia of patriarchy have spawned a male-dominated world with a male-dominated culture that harms everyone: women, men, girls and boys. ”

    The largest international organization officially accuses one of the two sexes (and there are only two sexes, dear friends, whoever is ill) of harming modern society. wassat https://twitter.com/UN/status/1302593895029714944 . О как! Боюсь, если я рискну повторить слова ООН про патриархат своей боевой подруге, мало мне не покажеццо... Она мне быстро объяснит, кто хозяин ситуации...

    Dangerous ideas are spread by UN hooligans - we are still far from patriarchy. laughing laughing
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 September 2020 15: 49 New
      -1
      The guys from the UN also need a psychological examination.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        The guys from the UN also need a psychological examination.

        Get busy, don't throw words to the wind
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 September 2020 14: 16 New
    0
    Covid ate the rest of the brain of the UN spokesman.  laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 September 2020 15: 06 New
    0
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    The COVID-19 pandemic demonstrates what we all (already) know: millennia of patriarchy have spawned a male-dominated world with a male-dominated culture that harms everyone: women, men, girls and boys. ”

    The largest international organization officially accuses one of the two sexes (and there are only two sexes, dear friends, whoever is ill) of harming modern society. wassat https://twitter.com/UN/status/1302593895029714944 . О как! Боюсь, если я рискну повторить слова ООН про патриархат своей боевой подруге, мало мне не покажеццо... Она мне быстро объяснит, кто хозяин ситуации...

    Dangerous ideas are spread by UN hooligans - we are still far from patriarchy. laughing laughing

    Banter and humor are a sign of mental alertness, stupidity is its absence. And misunderstanding is equated to stupidity))
    1. bk316
      bk316 8 September 2020 18: 02 New
      -2
      Banter and humor are a sign of mental alertness,

      No banter is very often a way to avoid serious discussion of the problem. Because you don't want to, there are no arguments or not enough knowledge.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 September 2020 18: 25 New
    0
    Quote: bk316
    Banter and humor are a sign of mental alertness,

    No banter is very often a way to avoid serious discussion of the problem. Because you don't want to, there are no arguments or not enough knowledge.

    Sometimes such nonsense is said with such a clever air. laughing
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR 8 September 2020 21: 01 New
    +1
    You invented - and you inject yourself with this rubbish. And do not forget all our rulers, too
  • Fmax
    Fmax 9 September 2020 00: 40 New
    +1
    Is this the one that most doctors have given up?
    After state purchases of homeopathic remedies for 1,6 billion rubles, something is not at all willing to inject with the state vaccine.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 9 September 2020 04: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: VO3A
    I filter such verbiage and scientific flood clearly ..

    Filter further, but as a matter of fact, you could not adequately answer your opponent. Weakling laughing
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 9 September 2020 07: 29 New
    0
    We got out ... But the Americans will come up with some nasty stuff again ... Can they also give them a present in response to this and for Nord Stream-2? We have a "legionnaire virus" ...