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Strength experiments for a 60-round magazine for "Schmeisser"

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Modern gunsmiths, among a wide range of tasks to be solved, single out one that is associated with an increase in the capacity of the store for an automatic rifle weapons... At the same time, a magazine with an increased capacity should not be bulky, so as not to interfere with effective firing.


The German company Schmeisser is among others representing the solution to this problem. She created a magazine for 60 rounds for various types of automatic small arms produced at her enterprises. A system is placed in the magazine box, consisting of two springs of different stiffness, which provide a multi-row arrangement of cartridges with their subsequent supply.

The Polenar Tactical YouTube channel decided to conduct a series of experiments with this store, including strength experiments. The Schmeisser small arms store was thrown onto the road and driven over in a car. After that, the store was fastened to the AR-line rifle and started firing.

The video shows experiments with a 60-cartridge magazine for weapons of the "Schmeisser" type:

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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 8 September 2020 07: 48 New
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    In the service I used both AKM-AKMS and AK-AKS-AK74m, on the first I saw three types of stores, bakelite, iron and aluminum, on the second bakelite and plastic, bakelite and plastic are better, lighter.
  2. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 08: 33 New
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    "A system consisting of two springs of different stiffness is placed in the magazine box, which provides a two-row arrangement of cartridges with their subsequent supply."
    The main thing is that it would be like with the previous Schmeisser patent, which Hugo did not work out ..
    1. Ua3qhp
      Ua3qhp 8 September 2020 08: 39 New
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      As if a two-row arrangement is provided by one spring. 60 rounds is more like four rows with an acceptable length.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 8 September 2020 08: 40 New
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        As if in the MR-38 (40) full store to load it was fraught ...
        1. Alexander Drobyshev
          Alexander Drobyshev 8 September 2020 12: 33 New
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          Good day. On MP-38 (40) stores, it was not recommended to load more than 28 rounds during long-term storage (more than a month) due to spring subsidence and cartridge wedging at the point of rebuilding in one row in dusty stores, modern reenactors use magazines from the Belgian Vigneron M2 submachine gun , which are almost an exact copy of the German ones. A stronger spring is installed on them and there are no problems with feeding the cartridges.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 9 September 2020 07: 30 New
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            Quote: Alexander Drobyshev
            A stronger spring is installed on them and there are no problems with feeding the cartridges.

            So that's what we are talking about ... it is extremely unreliable when it all depends on the quality of one detail ...
            Moreover - "A system consisting of two springs of different stiffness is placed in a store box" ... there is another factor that reduces reliability ...
      2. saygon66
        saygon66 9 September 2020 10: 45 New
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        - It depends on how the store is made ... If during feeding there is a transition from two rows to one row, then there are two springs. As in PMM stores
  3. thinker
    thinker 8 September 2020 09: 16 New
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    Quote: Ua3qhp
    60 rounds is more like four rows

    Just an error in the article
    To prevent readers from having a misconception about the novelty of the idea, we recall that the first, known to the editorial board of the KALASHNIKOV magazine, a 4-row magazine for an automatic cartridge is a Soviet magazine for an experienced Konstantinov light machine gun of the mid-50s of the last century. Neither then, nor later were such designs integrated into army systems.

    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/kalashnikov/na-te-je-grabli-60zariadnyi-magazin-shmaiser-5e1b33dce6e8ef00b12dd4db
    1. Matthias
      Matthias 8 September 2020 10: 48 New
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      On some submachine guns, four-row magazines were placed back in World War II, and not to say that they showed themselves badly, however, they did not have a noticeable effect.
      1. thinker
        thinker 8 September 2020 11: 28 New
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        Exactly, we will know ...
        If we talk about box magazines with 4 rows of cartridges, then the first such serial store was created and put into service in Sweden shortly before the start of World War II.

        https://army-news.org/2019/03/istoriya-oruzhiya-chetyrexryadnye-magaziny/
  4. Matthias
    Matthias 8 September 2020 10: 56 New
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    Due to the long shaft of the store, the store itself, for almost half of its length, has a conventional two-row layout, which has a very detrimental effect on the dimensions.
    In this regard, the AK is much more successful, the magazine for 60 rounds in length is almost the same as the usual 30.
  5. Undecim
    Undecim 8 September 2020 13: 35 New
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    Quote: thinker
    To prevent readers from having a misconception about the novelty of the idea, we recall that the first, known to the editorial board of the KALASHNIKOV magazine, a 4-row magazine for an automatic cartridge is a Soviet magazine for an experienced Konstantinov light machine gun of the mid-50s of the last century. Neither then, nor later were such designs integrated into army systems.


    So that the reader does not have a false idea of ​​the novelty of the idea, in the figure on the right
    unknown, apparently, to the editorial board of the Kalashnikov magazine, a four-row store for the Finnish PP Suomi KP / -31, 1931.
  6. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 8 September 2020 20: 16 New
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    These magazines will be very popular with us, for 10 rounds, but as 60 chambers.
    In general, there have been such stores for a long time, both Kolt and Magpul.
  7. Alexfly
    Alexfly 10 September 2020 16: 16 New
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    And the guys for AK do not sell the same stores, otherwise you will not wait from their own, just talk about expediency ...