Lavrov flew to Syria: Kiev announced the disruption of telephone conversations between foreign ministers

The Ukrainian side announced that telephone conversations between Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba and the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry Sergei Lavrov were “disrupted”. It is noted that the initiator of the talks was the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and was going to raise the issue of the situation in Donbass, including "violations of the comprehensive truce."

Kuleba's office said that initially the Russian side "reacted vividly to the Ukrainian proposal for negotiations between the heads of departments," but then "it turned out that Lavrov flew to Syria."

Before that, Kuleba said that if a Ukrainian soldier dies in Donbass, then there is no point in talking with Donetsk and Lugansk, but it is necessary to have a conversation on this issue with the Russian Federation. According to the head of the Foreign Ministry, this is exactly the order given to him by President Volodymyr Zelensky.

By the same logic, it makes no sense for Russia to hold talks with Ukraine, and any questions on the settlement in Donbas should be discussed with the European Union and the United States. After all, at one time it was the foreign ministers of the three EU countries (Germany, Poland and France) who announced the provision of "guarantees" to Viktor Yanukovych. But where are those "guarantors" now? ..

Kuleba:

We want from Russia an explanation of the situation and answers to questions about whether it wants to go towards peace at all. We also wanted to discuss the issue of preparing for the meeting in the Normandy format.

Comments

[Mityasha]

To begin with, the Sumerians need to decide for themselves whether they need peace or not. To all appearances - no, since you are buried in the Kuban and Voronezh.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

In fact, Ukrainian politicians were “washed” with their own coin!

[mitroha]

Before that, Kuleba said that if a Ukrainian soldier dies in Donbass, then there is no point in talking with Donetsk and Lugansk, but it is necessary to have a conversation on this issue with the Russian Federation.

He stated. And I declare that if a Ukrainian soldier dies in the Donbass, then there is nothing for him to do there. Take them away and they will stop dying. And you can even discuss your fantasies with Gabon, but the result can only be obtained by talking to Donbass.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mitroha

And I declare that if a Ukrainian soldier dies in the Donbass, then there is nothing for him to do there. Take them away and they will stop dying.

First, I will make a reservation - I am in favor of Donbass RETURNING to the bosom of Russia as soon as possible.
But imagine the incredible - the Kaliningrad region followed the path of Donbass ...
And what, will you tell Shoigu that there is nothing for Russian soldiers to do there?

[Shurik70]

Ukraine first needs to stop killing people in Donbas.
Then her soldiers will stop dying there.
And after that it will be possible to start negotiations for peace.
In the meantime, people, locals and Ukrainians, are dying in Donbas, it is really pointless to negotiate.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Shurik70

Ukraine first needs to stop killing people in Donbas.

To defeat your opponent, you first need to understand his motivation. Why is he fighting?
But based on the 12 cons that I've earned, no one is going to figure it out.
War must be learned to understand. But no one, at least those 12 who gave me a minus, are not even going to understand it. By the way, the Ukrainian soldier dying in Donbass does not understand her either.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

first you need to understand his motivation

The motivation is very simple - money and power
When they recognize that Donbas can vote, they will have to share with those for whom Donbas will vote. Well, personal investments from NATO will stop.

[Alex Justice]

But imagine the incredible - the Kaliningrad region followed the path of Donbass ...

You have to start, imagine a coup staged by the West ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Alex Justice

You have to start, imagine a coup staged by the West ...

And who staged the events in Donbass?

[Alex Justice]

West and Nazis

[Campanella]

The Ukrainian soldier is a cover, the life of a soldier is not an issue for the rulers of Ukraine.
The reason is important for them, in solving their problems.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

In fact, Ukrainian politicians were “washed” with their own coin!

I believe that in this form, your phrase will reflect the essence of the reaction of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation more accurately and succinctly (just "cosmetic" changes in the text):

In fact, the Ukrainian "politicians" were washed with their own coin!

[halpat]

Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka

In fact, Ukrainian politicians were “washed” with their own coin!

Yes, there, as I understand it, is a very narrow and selfish task: to show before the local elections to the horses (voters) that the green clown like cares about the world ... he does something there.
imitation of ebullient activity.
Why should Russia play along with him?

[VO3A]

To begin with, Russia is not a party to the conflict! Russia is a member of the contact group for the settlement of the conflict!
That Russia should watch how the Judeo-Bandera people dig trenches and build engineering structures on the contact line? Send them to .... direct negotiations with the LPNR or further

[Finches]

Come on - Kuleba could not get through due to the fact that no matter what number and from any phone in the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, do not dial, you still first get to the State Department ...

[viktor.]

Redirection?

[Insurgent]

Lavrov flew to Syria: Kiev announced the disruption of telephone conversations between foreign ministers

"He flew away, but promised to return" (and he will return ) - but not to negotiations with non-politicians of a non-independent non-state.

There is nothing to discuss with them.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mityasha

To begin with, the Sumerians need to decide for themselves whether they need peace or not. To all appearances - no, since you are buried in the Kuban and Voronezh.

Don't talk nonsense. If one sick person said something about the Kuban and Voronezh, this does not mean at all that Ukraine will "bury themselves" on them. Don't make an elephant out of a fly.

[Mityasha]

No elephant, the State Department does not need peace there, so it will not be there. Regarding the Kuban and Voronezh, look at the words of the Sumerian anthem.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mityasha

watch the words of the Sumerian anthem

= Let us become, brother, in a curved curve from Syan to the Don, =
Did this term excite you so much? There are no other words, and especially regarding Voronezh and Kuban. You, as I understand it, have a very exuberant imagination. Tame her.

[Mityasha]

You don’t have to tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go!
Quite a lot of aggressive-minded Sumerians (who are now conducting in Sumerian politics and are simply nationalist-minded) support the patient, as you put it.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mityasha

Quite a lot of aggressive-minded Sumerians

I do not know such a unit of measurement.
There is no need to throw firewood into the fire of enmity between brothers. After all, the Rubicon has not yet been crossed. Be more restrained in relation to Ukrainians, as being smarter and more mentally healthy. Based on the understanding that - the doctor does not take offense at patients.

[Mityasha]

What happens in units of measurements cannot be expressed due to the absence of such. I do not throw firewood, I express my opinion, but I LISTEN to you! Hope dies last, YES?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mityasha

Hope dies last, YES?

There is every reason to believe, take my word for it, on the outskirts, using your unit of measurement, there are quite a lot of normal, intelligent, intelligent, hardworking honest and decent people. This gives me hope. The outskirts will heal someday. The main thing is not to aggravate her illness with thoughtless words and actions.
The main thing is to secure Donbass. And let the outskirts boil in their own juice.

[Mityasha]

I still agree with you. Only these normal, sensible, intelligent, hardworking people are not allowed to live in peace, imposing the will of an absolute minority.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mityasha

I still agree with you. Only these normal, sensible, intelligent, hardworking people are not allowed to live in peace, imposing the will of an absolute minority.

Here I completely agree with you.

[alexmach]

Regarding the kuban and voronezh, see the words of the Sumerian anthem

Have you seen it yourself? There seems to be nothing about Kuban or Voronezh.

[venik]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Don't talk nonsense. If one sick person said something about the Kuban and Voronezh, this does not mean at all that Ukraine will "bury themselves" on them

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If only ONE, then - YES! Everything could be attributed to "acute mental disorder" (or, in extreme cases, "acute hangover syndrome") .... And when it becomes the "norm" for the Ukrainian "politicum" ..... It smells already mass schizophrenia !!! And this is already SERIOUS!
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Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Don't make an elephant out of a fly.

Don't make a fly out of an elephant !!!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: venik

And when it becomes "normal" for the Ukrainian "politicum" .....

"What is your evidence?"
Has the President of Ukraine made an official statement on this issue? (I mean Voronezh and Kuban)
Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted a relevant resolution
You walk through the village and a dog barks from every yard. How do you react to this? I don't think so. In this case, react the same way. This is their job - yapping.
And they bark not to scare you, they understand that it is useless, but to show that we are, and nothing more. So, with your reaction you only feed from the "stormy activity". Do not pay attention to empty gaps.

[mig29mks]

Once in Ukraine, they said that there would be no persecution of the Russian language, and everyone screamed out loud that the statements of single people from Ukraine should not be paid attention to, and what is the result?

[venik]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

"What is your evidence?"

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Pli-and-out:
Well, for example, I recently learned from my friend whose sister and husband live in Kiev that the street "Kubanskaya Ukraine"!!!! I didn't believe it. I checked it on the Internet - for sure! There is such a former Marshal Zhukov!"
Further - in the text:
"....The corresponding public discussion of the renaming took place from May 29 to July 29, 2017 on the single web portal of the territorial community in the special section E-CITY - “Public discussion of draft regulatory legal acts”. 2079 people joined the voting, of which 60%, that is 1247 citizens supported the proposal to rename the street in honor of the Kuban Ukraine. “We consider it necessary to remind that today's Ukraine consists of three main groups, which include ethnic Ukrainians: Western Ukraine, Dnieper Ukraine, Sloboda Ukraine. And there is also a fourth - Kuban Ukraine, which was supposed to enter into ethnogenesis, state genesis of our today's Ukraine... (https://www.ukrinform.ru/rubric-society/2563848-vmesto-zukova-kubanskaa-ukraina-i-resenie-eto-pravilnoe.html).
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Or another:
"...Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the "European Solidarity" Alexey Goncharenko said on the creation in the Ukrainian parliament of an association called "Kuban"... His task will be to fight for return to Ukraine Kuban... And we are talking about political, economic and cultural integration.... "
(https://www.mk.ru/politics/2019/10/18/pochemu-na-ukraine-predyavili-pretenzii-na-yug-rossii-kuban-nasha.html).
What little??? Or need more proof that this madness is gradually taking mass character? You can bring more!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: venik

Don't make a fly out of an elephant !!!

A-a-a-! Everything is gone, the plaster is being removed ... hereinafter.

[venik]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

A-a-a-! Everything is gone, the plaster is being removed ... hereinafter.

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"According to the text" - is it like this ?:

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: venik

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"According to the text" - is it like this ?:

Yes, somewhere like that. I mean, shorten your tongue.
Everyone knows about the situation on the outskirts, so there is no need to hysteria.

[venik]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Yes, somewhere like that. I mean, shorten your tongue.

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Is yours? Well, I'm trying too !!!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: venik

Is yours? Well, I'm trying too !!!

Why mine? I don’t podgavit between brothers.

[venik]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Why mine? I don’t podgavit between brothers.

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...Those whom I absolutely believe openly talk to each other about the tragedy of the situation, the stupidity of our military, Ribbentrop's cretinism, the fool Goering, and the terrible thing that awaits us all if the Russians break into Berlin......

.....And only Stirlitz answers: "Nonsense, everything is fine, things are developing normally"......

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: venik

about the idiot Goering,

Yu. Semyonov did not know Goering at all. And he is one of the smartest states. leaders of Germany.
And I’m not saying that everything is fine, beautiful marquise.

[venik]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Yu. Semyonov did not know Goering at all. And he is one of the smartest states. leaders of Germany.

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I’m NOT going to argue!
For me (personally) - Goering - nazi criminal!!!
Whether he is smart or stupid - (for me personally) - DOES NOT MATTER !!!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: venik

For me (personally) - Goering is a Nazi criminal !!!

On this issue I agree with you. And he mentioned it so that you understand that you should not refer to Semenov in a dispute. This is not an argument. It's just a novel. And its author has the right to fiction.

[venik]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I mentioned it so that you understand that it is not worth referring to Semenov in a dispute. This is not an argument. It's just a novel. And its author has the right to fiction.

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Lord! Do you really have absolutely no sense of humor? Or do you consider me so primitive that I consider the quote from "17 Moments of Spring" to be "the ultimate truth" ???
Are you really from Krasnoyarsk? After all, people live there funny and humorous! Half of my relatives live in this city! And also in Dzerzhinsky. (Although I haven't been there for a long time ... - fly far!)

[alexmach]

Don't talk nonsense. If one sick person said something about the Kuban and Voronezh, this does not mean at all that Ukraine will "bury themselves on them.

The problem is that the patient is not alone there. And this is not said just like that - it finds a response among the population therefore it is said.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: alexmach

The problem is that the patient is not alone there.

Well, of course, not alone.

Quote: alexmach

it finds a response among the population that's why it is said.

Yes, it resonates with some part of the population of the outskirts. But to say that the "population" I would not dare. Moreover, I would argue with you for a box of Armenian, although I don’t drink, that not everyone shares this point of view.

[alexmach]

Moreover, I would argue with you on a box of Armenian, although I don't drink, that not everyone shares this point of view.

Of course, not all, but it is shared by a fairly wide masses of the people. It is enough to look at the result of the last presidential elections. And the level of support for them completely frostbitten candidates, first of all Poroshenko. And this is after 5 years of war, heaps of objective problems, and a general trend towards the unpopularity of the current government. This is roughly the level of support for these statements.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: alexmach

Of course, not all, but it is shared by a fairly wide masses of the people. It is enough to look at the result of the last presidential elections.

Well let's see.
Poroshenko received 24,5% of those who came to the election. plots.
But 73,2% voted against Poroshenko. Those. against his policies!
But for some reason you are talking about 24,5% more than 73,2%. Why?
You say - "... the broad masses of the people ..." Is this 23% of the "broad masses"? And then 73,25 "narrow popular masses"?

[alexmach]

But for some reason you are talking about 24,5% more than 73,2%. Why?

Where am I saying this.

You say - "... the broad masses of the people ..." Is this 23% of the "broad masses"?

Sure. This is, in fact, every fourth "crazy". These are the broadest masses and not some lonely psychos. And the fact that most of them, I have not said anywhere. They are not the majority, but by no means few.
Yes, of course I am exaggerating a little by saying "crazy". Among them there are more and less adequate people. In addition, there is certainly a difference to express your opinion from the couch on the forum or "from the trench." Nevertheless, this is a quarter of the population who, after five years of war, support the nationalist militaristic course with which Poroshenko went to the elections. And he was also surprised that he received such little support, he was counting on more.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: alexmach

Where am I saying this.

Most commentators only talk about them, but they mean the entire outskirts. But there are only 23% of them, although it is a lot. But they say, including you, about them, and not about 73%.
That’s what I don’t understand.

[alexmach]

I am not talking about the whole of Ukraine as something single and whole. I just assert that these are not the words of some one crazy marginal. But this is a strong current in the mood of the masses. And I say this as a person who lived in Western Ukraine and still communicates with Ukrainians, and now in immigration from different parts of the country, albeit from the same social and age group. This does not mean that tomorrow these people will go to the trenches to recapture the "primordial Ukrainian lands of the Kuban." But these people will confidently assent from the couch to such a crazy statement, support it in the elections, or, for example, unconditionally support fanatics for any naughty type of Maidan. And these people are every fourth, which is very, very much from the point of view of socio-political processes.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: alexmach

And I say this as a person who lived in Western Ukraine and still

Believe me, the mood in Eastern Ukraine is somewhat different.
For clarification - in the North-East.

[alexmach]

And in Kiev among young people and partly middle-aged people it is very close to the Westerners. Moreover, my distant relatives in Crimea told me that there was a "split" in 2014 in the family between generations regarding what was happening.

[Shiva83483]

They will not start tweeting, they will find themselves within the borders of Galicia ... the "true" borders of Sumeria

[antivirus]

everything will be fine. - they will erect a monument to Ekaterina2 in Dnepropetrovsk and Ze himself will open it with fanfare, Kuleba scissors serve

[The leader of the Redskins]

In such a situation, Pushilin begins to look like a petty provocateur.
Doesn't his yesterday's cancellation of the shelling order coincide with Lavrov's departure?

[Mityasha]

The cancellation of the order is connected with the fulfillment of the conditions of the ultimatum by the Sumerians: the newly created engineering facilities fell asleep ...

[Avior]

The video was from there yesterday. Nobody fell asleep and they are not going to leave

[Mityasha]

Information differs, the truth can only be learned by seeing everything with your own eyes, and this, alas, is impossible. Therefore, we will operate with our sources ...

[Avior]

The video was invented for that, so that you can watch it with your own eyes.
And the fact that when brought is an "anonymous source."

[Mityasha]

Where and where to watch the video?

[Glennie]

Why not just do what Ukraine considers necessary? The king's crown will not fall!

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Glenni

does Ukraine consider it necessary?

And what does she think is necessary? Maybe a UN Security Council decision?
Hotelok Natsik and Kuleby with their farm mentality not to offer.

[Reserve buildbat]

What to do? Stop the war in Ukraine? Easy. KR's blow to Kiev - and silence.

[Adam Khomich]

Quote: Stroibat stock

KR strike on Kiev

Kiev, like other capitals, is a big city.
It is necessary to specify goals by city,
neighborhoods, street avenues, houses :-)

[Reserve buildbat]

We are not mattress mats, so a blow to Kiev implies a blow to "decision-making centers". Nobody will do from the ancient Russian city of Dresden. And specific addresses with millimeter precision are known to those who need it

[Glennie]

Have you tried to hit yourself on the head? Sound wooden? People live there and most of them are Russians. ...

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Glenni

People live there and most of them are Russians. ...

Where forgive most Russians live ?? In Kiev ??!
Yes, you will be put on a stake for such words)))))

[CSKA]

Quote: Glenni

Have you tried to hit yourself on the head? Sound wooden? People live there and most of them are Russians. ...

You come there and try to explain to the majority of the population of this city that they are Russians, you will hear a lot of interesting things about yourself. People with cleared brains and without brains can only be healed by force and stomach.

[Roman1970_1]

Stop the war in Ukraine? Easy. KR's blow to Kiev - and silence.

And in Moscow?
According to your logic, it will also help
(Moscow with a small letter, because you got a shovel in the head in the construction battalion, I copy)

And another question on your couch is there a button to start the CD?
Just outside the territory of the sofa you have no authority

[Reserve buildbat]

Do not be rude. I didn’t drink brotherhood with you. It's just that if you turn on your sour pumpkin, which you think is your head, then SUDDENLY you will notice that Moscow did not start the war in Ukraine, and no one could even prove the participation of Russian troops. We hear constant raving about hundreds of tanks and other horse-diving regiments every day. But there is never any evidence. Not a single photograph, nothing. All skakuas, apparently from horror, immediately "sit down phones"
So all the questions in Kiev, let them redirect them to their owners. And you sit on your toilet seat and do not cove

[CSKA]

Quote: Stroibat stock

So all the questions in Kiev, let them redirect them to their owners. And you sit on your toilet seat and do not cove

))))) I am also basically Ukraine and I write Kiev with a small letter.

[CSKA]

Quote: Roman1970_1

And in Moscow?

))) Do you have them to try? Can you make your pants?

[businessv]

Quote: Glenni

Why not just do what Ukraine considers necessary?

And when did she do what she saw fit? She did what she saw fit to do by the Washington regional committee, which pays for all these "needy".

[Angelo Provolone]

The Ukrainian side announced that telephone conversations between Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov were "disrupted":

[Reserve buildbat]

Generally beautifully done. Pushilin proposed negotiations - the skakuas refused and turned to Lavrov. He showed them their place, silently leaving for Syria. Russia has nothing to talk about with fascist puppets.

[rocket757]

They just showed the level they deserve!
STE in geyrops they are the subject of negotiations ... BUT HERE they are not there, here they are assessed as ... as it should.

[1536]

How tired they are of these from Ukraine! All their phone calls and demands must be answered: "We don’t know you, sorry, you made the wrong number." Well, by analogy with replies to telephone scammers.

[aszzz888]

1536 (Eugene)
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How tired they are of these from Ukraine! All their phone calls and demands must be answered: "We don’t know you, sorry, you made the wrong number." Well, by analogy with replies to telephone scammers.

And so that the call was on the satellite, so that next time I look into my wallet, skoko hryvnia left, and is it worth calling next time.

[Mimino]

Marinate them more often!

[Roman1970_1]

The Foreign Ministries of three EU countries (Germany, Poland and France) announced the provision of "guarantees" to Viktor Yanukovych. But where are those "guarantors" now?

Once, Russia, the EU and the United States were guarantors of Ukraine's integrity for abandoning nuclear weapons.
But where are those "guarantors" now?

[Mityasha]

To live with wolves, howl like a wolf!

[businessv]

Quote: Roman1970_1

But where are those "guarantors" now?

Where they were - in Russia, the EU and the USA.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: Roman1970_1

Once, Russia, the EU and the United States were guarantors of Ukraine's integrity for abandoning nuclear weapons.
But where are those "guarantors" now?

After you sold nenko like a cow, the Ukraine plate disappeared. And the ownerless territory, with rusty agricultural equipment, no guarantees shine. Agreeing with a gang of marauders, just because they are waving the US flag, is stupid and not productive.

[Ilya Nikitich]

Quote: Roman1970_1

Once, Russia, the EU and the United States were guarantors of Ukraine's integrity for abandoning nuclear weapons.

What are you talking about now? What kind of guarantors? When???

[Victor Chernenko]

With flawed horses
and talk in a zapadlo.

[askort154]

Lavrov flew to Syria: Kiev announced the disruption of telephone conversations between foreign ministers

He simply punished Zakharova - these "DBLY" will call, send them - you know where.

[Ros 56]

Yes, what can you talk about with American lackeys, if we speak, then with their masters.

[APASUS]

Zelibob the peacemaker drooped his head .............. how puffed up at the elections, but it turned out that Lavrov is to blame!

[Kerensky]

Well, let them call Syria and ask Lavrov.

[businessv]

We also wanted to discuss the issue of preparing for the meeting in the Normandy format.

I think that all these issues will be discussed without the participation of the puppets of the Independent. They have other problems - in connection with de-Sovietization, chevrons must be composed.

[kill the fascist]

According to the situation in the LPNR, dill do not consider it necessary to negotiate with the locals, moving the arrows to Russia, but why should Russia negotiate with dill when the mattress makes decisions for them? rit.
The swelling of Kulemboy's cheeks reminded an anecdote:
The negotiations between David Beckham and the coach of Yaroslavl “Shinnik” have finally ended ...
- Beckham still can't figure out how they even started.

[thrust]

they have forgotten already and think that we have forgotten.
Russia is not a party to the conflict

[thrust]

there is nothing better than ignoring it like that.
too many comments from the top level about the situation with which everything is already clear

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

We want from Russia an explanation of the situation and answers to questions about whether it wants to go to peace at all

Well, then, to go to peace, first, you have to come to war. As far as I know, Russia has not yet started a war with the forces occupying Ukraine. Are the Gauleiters of the Ukrainian land and their talkative clerks from the so-called Foreign Ministry sure they would like to take this path?