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Captain Bast's last pier

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Reburial in the village. Hatnoe (Kiev region, Ukraine), June 22, 2020 (photo by Sergey Gafarov)


Stereotypes. This is a given, which not only interferes with life, but it greatly complicates the normal functioning of the brain. And these stereotypes need to be destroyed from time to time, if not shaken, then to the full.

There is no need to talk about what stereotypes we have developed over the past ten years in relation to our Ukrainian neighbors. And the majority of consumers of information in Russia are absolutely sure that Ukrainians are all as one similar to those organisms that act as clowns at Solovyov's TV show.

I am just happy that I had the opportunity to talk about how calmly and unnoticed (for us) some Ukrainians are doing their job. Not the ones who destroy monuments and desecrate graves. I will not even try to prove that they are minuscule in Ukraine, they still will not believe.

I will talk about those who are engaged in completely opposite cases. In Ukraine.

On June 22, 2020, on the Day of Remembrance and Mourning, at a war memorial in the village of Gatnoe, Fastovsky district, Kiev region, it was planned to reburial the remains of 22 Red Army soldiers who defended Kiev in 1941, among whom it was possible to establish the surname (by the death medallion) of only one of them. This is Sergei Titovich Savenok.

As luck would have it, the commander joined them, who was discovered by the search engines of the archaeological patriotic search association "Dnepr - Ukraine" from the city of Kiev in September 2019.

The story of Vitaly Rubanov, Deputy Head of the APPO "Dnepr-Ukraine":

“Early Saturday morning on September 28, 2019, we set off in a small group of three to the area with. Lyubartsy (Boryspil district, Kiev region). The purpose of the trip was to find the places of fierce battles surrounded by units of 37A in September-October 1941. It was planned to find the place of the broken convoy. But they were late. The field on which they wanted to work had already been sown with winter crops. We had already turned back home, but the idea arose to call on old places, as they say, "what if ..." I really didn't want to waste the day.

The nearest interesting place to search was a field near the Yazvina Mogila mound.


Kurgan "Yazvina Mogila" - the place of the breakthrough of the ring of encirclement by the PVF sailors (photo Fedko V.F.)

On September 20, 1941, an attempt was made here to break through the encirclement ring by a detachment of sailors from the Pinsk military flotilla and border guards. At the initiative of the local historian Pyotr Fedorovich Zinchenko and the Kiev public organization "The Association of Veterans of the Navy Intelligence" from 2005 to 2009, search engines of the Kiev City Historical and Patriotic Club "Poisk", the "Dnepr" and "Patriot" detachments have already been working here. Then the remains of forty-one people were raised and reburied. These were mainly sailors of the PVF and border guards. And our organization has repeatedly worked in these places. But nevertheless, the field near the mound has always attracted ...

We decided to go through these places once again ... We worked literally 100 meters from the mound. One of the first major signals indicated a deep object. After removing a meter layer of heavy clay soil from the ground, a Mosin rifle and the remains of a soldier appeared.

As the "loner" was opened, a black cloth began to be seen in the area of ​​the arms. The first thing I thought about at that moment: a sailor! And, as it turned out later, I was not mistaken. From the belt and further up, one after the other, buttons with anchors went.


Marine insignia with three wide braids (stripes of gilded gimp) - Captain 3rd rank (photo by Vitaly Rubanov)

Fragments of an overcoat miraculously survived in the lower part of the sleeve. They clearly showed the maritime sleeve insignia with three wide braids (stripes of gilded gimp) - captain 3rd rank (in land - major).


Fragments of the naval uniform of the captain of the 3rd rank (photo by Sergey Gafarov)

Emotions overwhelmed. Not every day it is possible to find the commander of the Pinsk flotilla. I continued to dig further. In the area of ​​the left chest near the ribs, a piece of earth collapsed. The edge of the tightly compressed paper appeared. "Is it really a document?" - I thought. But he didn't risk it, trying to satisfy his curiosity on the spot. I cut it out along with the raw soil, wrapped it in cellophane and placed it in a cardboard container. The work was completed after a few hours. I reported to the head of our organization about the work done, and we went home with the feeling that today was not even in vain, and in the hope that this stories will be continued ”.


Then the heads of the organizations, Sergei Pavlovich Raspashnyuk (APPO "Dnepr - Ukraine") and Alexander Vladimirovich Marmashov (LLC "Association of Veterans of Naval Intelligence") joined the work, who decided to jointly conduct an examination and all the necessary work on identification and subsequent reburial.

My further correspondent was Sergey Gafarov, Deputy Chairman of the Association of Veterans of Naval Intelligence, who provided photographic materials and information on the work done.


It took the expert about two months to work out the document found in the ground. Brief excerpt from the report:

"Research results 01.10.19 - 05.12.19.

As a result of prolonged and careful delamination, it was possible to separate from each other all the surviving fragments of papers and documents that were previously inside the breast pocket. Thus, it became possible to establish that inside the pocket there was a party card of a member of the CPSU (b) in a thick cardboard protective cover. No traces of other papers or documents were found in the pocket.

The 1936 party card has a red PVC-based protective cover. The edges of the document are badly damaged, partially rotted and peeled off, so it is not possible to establish the exact dimensions. The inscriptions on the front cover indicate that the ticket is of the central (not republican) sample (RSFSR). The inner sheets of the party card are rotten through and through and cannot be delaminated. Their remains are stuck to the cover, the inscriptions are visually unreadable.

By means of a complex and laborious technique, it was possible to obtain fragmentary images of individual letters, words, and strokes on the surviving sections of the first page. After that, these fragmentary images were superimposed by the method of compilation by tags on the background clean image of the 1936 party card form. Thus, it was possible to restore almost all the records on the first page in one image for further reading.

In the lower right corner of the document there is a blue imprint of a round seal: "Political department of the Dnieper military flotilla" (inscription in a circle). All inscriptions on the first page of the VKP (b) ticket are made by hand in black ink.

Based on the above analysis of the materials and the text read, the following conclusions can be drawn about the identity of the former owner:

Bast Yevsey Zusevich, born in 1903, member of the CPSU (b) since May 1931.

The party card was issued by the Political Department of the Dnieper Military Flotilla (not earlier than 1936, in connection with the replacement of old documents with new ones) ... "


Immediately there was a reasonable assumption about the death of the captain of the third rank Bast.

In the course of work, a previously imperceptible fact became clear. The document was shot through by a bullet. And since the party card, as a rule, was carried in the left pocket of his tunic, it is quite possible that the wound was just in the area of ​​the heart and led to the inevitable death of Yevsey Zusevich.


Party card of a member of the CPSU (b), belonging to Bast E.Z.Clearly visible hole from a bullet (photo by Sergei Gafarov)


Verbatim transcription of the inscriptions on the first page of the VKP (b) ticket (reconstruction by Sergei Gafarov based on the examination report)

Captain Bast's last pier

One of the fragments of the read text. The word "Bast" is clearly visible (taken from the examination report)

Then Sergei managed to witness another miracle, when in the "Live Journal", under an article about the actions of the Pinsk flotilla, he found the following comment: "The gunboat" Verny "was commanded by my grandfather, Captain 3rd Rank Bast Yevsey Zakharovich ..."

This was written by the granddaughter of Captain Bast, Marina Viktorovna Bast, who lives in Germany. She sent Sergei a personal file from her grandfather, which she received from the Russian State Archive of Aviation and Military Sciences and photographs. And at the same time she shared general information about her grandfather.

Yevsey Zusevich Bast was born on 31.08.1903 in the town of Makarov, Kiev district. Jew. Father - Zus Moishe Shlemov (Zakhar Solomonovich) Bast (born in 1888) was a hereditary tailor. The craft of tailoring has been passed down from generation to generation. Mother - Hana Rukhlya Ovseevna (Anna Evseevna), as usual, is a housewife. Yevsey was the eldest son in the family, besides him, there were three more brothers: Semyon (1909 - 03.10.1973/1911/1941), Yakov (1912-11.05.1970), Mikhail (XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX).

The family moved to Kiev in 1914. In 1920, Zus Shlemovich died during a pogrom. Anna Evseevna is left with four children in her arms without a livelihood. Yevsey, the eldest in the family, was forced to leave the military-economic courses of the Red Army, where he was enrolled in September 1920. He goes to work.

As a literate person, Yevsey Zusevich worked as a clerk, census-taker, and worker in the boiler room of the Bolshevik plant.

In 1925 he was drafted into the army and sent to serve in the Black Sea Fleet Semi-Crew (FPE).


Yevsey Zusevich during his military service in the Black Sea Fleet, 1926 (photo from the family archive of Bast M.V.)

And then his military service began, which, frankly, went far beyond the urgent borders:

- from 09.01.1926/4/4 in the XNUMXth Hydro-reconnaissance detachment, then in the XNUMXth detachment of the marine reconnaissance aviation;
- from 08.01.1927/XNUMX/XNUMX head of the library;
- since 1927 clerk of the extra-urgent service of the 53rd separate squadron;
- from 06.12.1927 weapons master of the 53rd department an air squadron with a secondment for work in the operational unit of the Black Sea Air Force headquarters;
- from 01.10.1928/20.10.1931/XNUMX to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, a student of the Parallel Courses of the Higher Naval Order of Lenin of the Frunze Red Banner School;
- from 05.1931 member of the CPSU (b);
- from 20.10.1931, the chief of watch of the gunboat "Red Azerbaijan" of the Caspian military flotilla;
- from 05.11.1931/25.07.1932/XNUMX to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX ship artilleryman of the KL "Red Azerbaijan" of the Caspian military flotilla;
- in October 1932 he married Lyubov Lvovna Shmelkina;


Yevsey Zusevich with his wife Lyubov Lvovna, 1932 (photo from the family archive of Bast M.V.)

- from 27.11.1932/XNUMX/XNUMX, student of the SKUKS artillery sector (special courses for command personnel) of the Red Army Navy;
- from 10.07.1933 he was transferred to service in the Dnieper military flotilla (DVF): port artilleryman, commander of the artillery group of the Verniy KL, divisional artilleryman;
- from 01.11.1933/XNUMX/XNUMX, the commander of the art group of the CR "Verny";
- in 1934 he completed two courses of the evening army KOMVUZ (communist higher educational institution) at the House of the Red Army in Kiev;
- 02.09.1934/XNUMX/XNUMX son Victor is born;
- from 01.01.1935/XNUMX/XNUMX, Bast - assistant commander of the CR "Verny";
- from 28.05.1935/XNUMX/XNUMX - commander of the CR "Verny";
- in 1936 received a ticket of a member of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks No. 0261560 (issued by the Political Department of the Dnieper Military Flotilla);
- from 27.10.1936/1775/XNUMX - acting commander of military unit XNUMX of the Dnieper military flotilla;
- 28.12.1936 was awarded with a personalized gold watch (pr. NKO USSR No. 184);
- from 15.02.1937 - commander of the Levachev monitor of the 2nd division of monitors of the Far Eastern Fleet;
- from 29.07.1937/6/XNUMX - deputy. chief of the XNUMXth branch of the headquarters of the Far Eastern Front;
- from 10.03.1938/6/XNUMX - chief of the XNUMXth department (in command and control of the fleet) of the headquarters of the Far Eastern Front;
- from 29.10.1939/XNUMX/XNUMX - commander of a detachment of monitors of the Far Eastern Front;
- since July 1940, the commander of the monitor division of the Pinsk military flotilla (PVF);
- 04.04.1941/3/XNUMX he was awarded the title "Captain XNUMXrd Rank";
- from 11.07.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX - Commander of the monitor division of the Berezinsky Detachment of river ships;
- from 20.07.1941 - commander of the Berezinsky detachment of river ships;
- from 11.08.1941 - I. about. chief of the command department of the headquarters of the PVF (pr. on PVF №061 from 11.08.1941).


From left to right: Novikov Nikolai Ivanovich, senior political instructor, head of the PVF naval club, Bast E.Z., captain of the 3rd rank, commander of the PVF monitor division, Maksimenko Klimenty Vasilyevich, lieutenant-commander, head of the 1st department of the ORSO headquarters of the PVF, Roslavtsev Dmitry Vasilievich, senior political instructor, deputy. editor of the newspaper PVF "On a combat watch". Pinsk military port, May 1941 (photo from the family archive of Bast M.V.)



Bast Yevsey Zusevich, captain of the 3rd rank, head of the command department of the PVF headquarters, August 1941 (photo from the family archive of Bast M.V.)

Captain of the third rank Bast disappeared without a trace when leaving the encirclement in September 1941.

21.04.1942/088/XNUMX excluded from the lists of the command staff of the Navy as missing (order of the head of the Command Directorate of the People's Commissariat of the Navy No. XNUMX).

And now, after so many years, the captain of the third rank Bast was finally buried the way he deserved, namely, together with the same soldiers of that war.


Reburial in the village. Hatnoe (Kiev region, Ukraine), June 22, 2020 (photo by Sergey Gafarov)

Unfortunately, many memorials, including in the village of Ivankovo, where many PVF sailors were buried in 2007 and 2009, are now closed to new burials. Marina Viktorovna Bast had the idea to bury her grandfather next to his wife, in the cemetery in Berkovtsy, but since she lives in Germany, and the burial requires quite a lot of paperwork, together with the search engines it was decided to bury Captain 3rd rank Bast during the next event ...

This is what happened in Gatnoye. 22 Red Army men from among the defenders of Kiev and the captain of the third rank of the Pinsk military flotilla Bast were interred. In compliance with all military honors. Yes, the event was not pompous, both quarantine and abnormal heat affected, but everything was done in such a way that none of the participants had a shadow of doubt that a great and useful work had been done.

Sergey Gafarov:

For us, as people who are studying the history of the Pinsk military flotilla (no less than 16 years), the key factor was that the sailor, who on September 20, 1941, lay in the ground as anonymous and was listed as missing according to all dry statistical lists without a trace, after long 79 years he regained his name and was buried, as every person deserves. And even more so the one who went into his last battle with contempt for the enemy and a rifle in his hands ...

Probably, many will now say that this is a one-time affair, that all over Ukraine they are demolishing monuments that they can only reach ...

However, to believe it or not is a private matter for everyone. I specifically asked Sergei a question in this regard when we talked about the article. Here's what he answered:

“Fools and roads are not only Russia's problem. We have such "gifted" too a dime a dozen. But they keep us on our toes so that we do not relax.

The best example: in the midst of "decommunization" there was an exhibition dedicated to the Dnieper military flotilla. I have in my hands one of the exhibits - a star from the side of the "Shock" monitor.


And no one twists our hands. We receive work permits from the Ministry of Culture every year. Reburials all over the country! This year, quarantine is the only reason that prevented the events from being held by May 9. But when weakened, en masse throughout the country, the events took place by June 22.

Probably nothing and never will affect the search traffic. We work as we work. As the remains were transferred to the Russian Federation through Andrey Lyashchenko, and we are transferring them. And in the same way we take it back. "


Moreover, now the search engines of several organizations are continuing the summer sessions, which we are planning to jointly tell the Russian reader about. It seems to me that this makes a certain sense.

Of course, it is convenient for someone to think that “Ukraine is everything”. We will not impose our opinion on this. But for those who believe that this is not so, I am sure it will be interesting. There, abroad, which does not go through the minds and souls, there are many people for whom the war did not end until the last soldiers were buried. And it gives hope to the hearts.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 8 September 2020 05: 30 New
    27
    Probably nothing and never will affect the search traffic. We work as we work. As the remains were transferred to the Russian Federation through Andrey Lyashchenko, and we are transferring them. And in the same way we take it back. "
    Well done guys, no words, I take off my hat. hi
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 8 September 2020 08: 33 New
      23
      These are not indifferent people..
      "The war is not over until the last soldier is buried."
      1. cost
        cost 8 September 2020 10: 46 New
        10
        For us, as people who are studying the history of the Pinsk military flotilla (no less than 16 years), the key factor was that the sailor, who on September 20, 1941, lay in the ground as anonymous and was listed as missing according to all dry statistical lists without a trace, after long 79 years he regained his name and was buried, as every person deserves. And even more so the one who went into his last battle with contempt for the enemy and a rifle in his hands ...

        Eternal Memory to the soldiers who died, the defenders of the Motherland. And a deep bow to Ukrainian search engines
        1. nikon7717
          nikon7717 8 September 2020 23: 59 New
          +6
          Thank you guys for looking! For memory and respect for ancestors.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 13 September 2020 13: 44 New
            +3
            Quote: nikon7717
            Thank you guys for looking! For memory and respect for ancestors.
            I join
            Roman is grateful for the story .. Such a bright narration ..
            As long as there is a common memory of the Victory ------ we are together and can unite. Let it not be instantaneous.
            The Russian world is
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 8 September 2020 06: 21 New
    +8
    Thanks to the guys who continue this good cause. They return their loved ones to their relatives. Those who were considered missing ...
    I myself wrote half a year ago what is wrong with monuments in Ukraine. Well, or rather, not as cornerstone as some media like to show. There are plenty of idiots and unbalanced people everywhere. But there are more good people.
    I am glad that Roman's rhetoric has also changed - if I'm not mistaken, earlier it was entirely in the key that in Ukraine everything is desecrated and destroyed.
    1. VIP
      VIP 8 September 2020 12: 34 New
      -1
      Everything flows, everything changes. You look and in Kiev they will stop toil
  3. svp67
    svp67 8 September 2020 06: 50 New
    +9
    Welcome back, all missing then "Missing" ...
    Thank you for this work, everyone involved.
    And it gives hope to the hearts.
    I would love to believe, but I'm not so optimistic. These people will leave, and who will replace them? People brought up on the ideas of Bandera and Shukhevych?
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 8 September 2020 08: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      These people will leave, and who will replace them? People brought up on the ideas of Bandera and Shukhevych?

      Only if the families bring up something different, but this is difficult in the conditions of the total pressure of Nazi propaganda.

      Many have relatives there and I think they noticed that the youth was bitten by someone ...

      And the guys from the article are the only hope for the best, honor and deep bow to them ...

      PS
      Marina Viktorovna Bast, she lives in Germany
      never understood Jewish emigration to ... Germany, where they have not cooled down yet, yes ...
      1. avib
        avib 8 September 2020 09: 32 New
        +7
        Quote: Olgovich
        never understood the Jewish emigration to ... Germany, where they have not cooled down yet, yes ...

        Absolutely agree. When I am in Germany and I see old people, I involuntarily wonder if he (although he was already born after the war) put mine over the moat in 41/42 ...
        I know some Jews who left the USSR for Germany - I cannot understand. This is "until next time."
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 September 2020 10: 00 New
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          And you can understand the Jews living in Ukraine - the silver for cutting out the Jews belongs to Khmelnitsky. Yes, and Petliura and the pogroms ... He lived in Germany for half a year - there were no anti-Semitic manifestations. It’s a good country, and I also liked the people, in the bulk.
          1. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 8 September 2020 10: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            He lived in Germany for half a year - there were no anti-Semitic manifestations.

            Hey. Did you walk in a pile?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 8 September 2020 12: 03 New
              +1
              I did not go to Israel in a kippah)))
              Arabs were once drunk together with the Russian Germans laughing
              1. andreykolesov123
                andreykolesov123 8 September 2020 12: 39 New
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                Well, if you walked in kippah, then perhaps your impressions would be different. I also went to a Syrian restaurant in Brussels with a portrait of Assad on the wall. After my words "russia-suriya sadaka" and "rais Assad battal". They brought me a glass of wine at the house's expense. The main thing was not to say anything in Hebrew.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 September 2020 13: 45 New
                  +4
                  A company from a restaurant in Munich came out, three young Arabs looked at their wives and smiled. Well, I gave it out - Ada banat, mish hmar (these are women, not donkeys). They were taken aback, and I began to talk about "Kaman Mara mashufka hun, banikat ..." (I will see you here again), etc. There were four of us who drank, and the Russian Germans always do not mind fighting drunk if there is a reason, and the police are not visible on the horizon, so the Arabs fled without words laughing
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 8 September 2020 14: 00 New
                    +1
                    For donkeys Yeah. Test)))
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 8 September 2020 14: 13 New
                      +4
                      This was before their mass emigration)) But the principle is - they take you for a German - they stare impudently, they understand that a Russian (Jew, German, it doesn't matter), do not communicate
                      1. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 8 September 2020 22: 21 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        understand that Russian (Jew, German, it does not matter)

                        This is the most important thing ... When it does not matter who you are by nationality. Probably Russian .. you can, so. Probably more correct honest man!
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 September 2020 22: 28 New
                        +5
                        In this context, your origin is important - they try not to run into people from the former USSR hi This is largely due to the Kazakh Germans - the guys perceive a street fight as a sport, without fanaticism, of course ... laughing But nonetheless..
                      3. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 8 September 2020 22: 31 New
                        +2
                        He was friends with one such German .. Marine Corps of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation .. The guy is easy-going. Especially fight .. Died five years ago. Cancer .
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 September 2020 22: 36 New
                        +2
                        Bright memory! Good people, for the most part.
    2. avib
      avib 8 September 2020 11: 06 New
      +4
      I have no complaints about the Germans. I like the country and the people themselves are pretty good. But all the same, somehow latently, on a subconscious level .... As for anti-Semitism - until 1933, German Jews were "not so much the Germans themselves" - both culturally and politically - and how it turned out! Nobody expected, you must admit.
      There are immigrant countries by definition - the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and there are "mono-national" countries - Poland, Germany, Japan ... I believe that in a mono-national country xenophobia can manifest itself very easily and in the most unpleasant forms, anti-Semitism - even easier ... Therefore, of course, you can look for where it is warmer and more satisfying, but the people who have their own national state will still feel comfortable only in it. Being a stranger even in Motecarlo at this stage is not ice. Probably more generations of at least 5 while all people mix ... and maybe more.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 September 2020 13: 46 New
        +2
        I agree completely
    3. avib
      avib 8 September 2020 11: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Krasnodar
      And you can understand the Jews living in Ukraine

      There are practically no Jews left in Ukraine, and the average age of the remaining is 65 years. So soon the Jews in Ukraine will end on their own. Jews there either sit on very big money or are in mixed marriages and do not leave for family reasons. I can understand both the first and the second. By the way, the situation is the same in Russia.

      As for the question itself - at the moment, the democratically elected president of the state of Ukraine is a Jew Zelensky. So Khmelnitsky, Petliura .... You generally know how many Jews Titus Vespasian killed - innumerable. There is no need to pull Ukraine by the ears anywhere.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 September 2020 13: 53 New
        0
        Under Titus, the Jews were exterminated because of the uprising in Judea, i.e. within the normal imperial policy. In Ukraine - because of a different religion, mentality, ethnic origin - which, after all, are very different things. Yes, now there is Zelensky, Groisman, and big businessmen 70 percent of the Jews - I'm not arguing. Moreover, if they stay there, it’s to their health, but if you don’t understand your fellow tribesmen living in Germany, then by the same principle you cannot understand those in Ukraine.
        1. avib
          avib 8 September 2020 14: 15 New
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          Quote: Krasnodar
          if you do not understand your fellow tribesmen living in Germany, then by the same principle you cannot understand those in Ukraine

          They were born in Ukraine, raised, their families lived for generations. They are "part" of this country and culture - whatever one may say. Not to be confused with emigration for a piece of sausage.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 September 2020 14: 36 New
            +2
            And those whom Petliura sawed out lived there for centuries - what does the emigration have to do with it?
            1. avib
              avib 8 September 2020 15: 38 New
              +2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              And those whom Petliura sawed out lived there for centuries - what does the emigration have to do with it?

              As I understand it, we are talking about people who emigrated to Germany. Those. got up from their homes, abandoned everything and left their home, from their native language and culture, friends and even relatives - and to Germany. Like the Jews from Ukraine must necessarily go somewhere because of Petliura?
              Without getting personal - Krasnodar, when will you stop? Moldova, Israel, Germany (he said himself - he lived for half a year), Krasnodar (Russia), wrote that I like Vienna ... or are you already a supranational "man of the world" and your homeland is where the fifth point is warmer? Do you have any sons? In what army will they serve, if they will? Which homeland to defend?
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 September 2020 15: 59 New
                +1
                laughing
                I will answer in order:
                1) We wrote about the misunderstanding of the emigration of Jews to Germany
                2) While I stopped in the Krasnodar Territory - and I also like Geneva and Frankfurt am Main and Munich))
                3) Homeland? I didn’t even think about it ... the nation state is Israel, this is unconditional. Culturally and morally comfortable - in Russia.
                4) Warm the fifth point - it all depends on the requests, I feel warm everywhere.
                5) Sons - three
                6) Senior - Russia, younger - let's see, three rikiv talcs lol
                7) A daughter will serve in the IDF - it's like giving a drink. And he won't ask me laughing
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 9 September 2020 00: 13 New
        -1
        The article was actually about the search engines of Ukraine)) And not about Germany.
    4. Olgovich
      Olgovich 8 September 2020 11: 51 New
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      Quote: Krasnodar
      I lived in Germany for half a year - there were no anti-Semitic manifestations. It’s a good country, and I also liked the people, for the most part.

      Have you ever encountered the opposite?

      Once I was on a bus in Frankfurt with two friends, drunken Jewish settlers. How they swore at the Germans with the very last words (in Russian) and in conversation with each other and addressing the Germans (smiling politely)!

      “And why did you come here, but if you hate it so much?” He asked. "And here it is most profitable and, in general, let them pay!"

      I've never met this again, but ...
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 September 2020 13: 56 New
        0
        I have not met so openly. I have heard about it is more profitable to live in Germany, but not about the fact that Germans are swearing. Making fun of some of their features - of course, but I know this from Israel)).
    5. VIP
      VIP 8 September 2020 12: 40 New
      +2
      Maybe there for permanent residence: "good country" though the nickname will need to be changed
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 September 2020 13: 56 New
        +1
        No, if for permanent residence, I liked Vienna more. ))
  • Serg koma
    Serg koma 8 September 2020 08: 25 New
    +8
    Quote: svp67
    People brought up on the ideas of Bandera and Shukhevych?

    Young people perceiving history on sites like reibert. You look at the avatars of most of the participants in the reibert forum and you understand that they are very sorry that their grandfathers fought in the Red Army, and not in the Wehrmacht, and the "granddaughters" are trying hard to fix this. Full admiration for the "German military genius" ...
    There are real patriots of OUR country on this site, but unfortunately in the minority.
    Join the Grandfather и The leader of the Redskins
    Honor and praise to people who care about the Heroes of the Motherland.
    Eternal Memory to the soldiers of the Great Country.
  • BAI
    BAI 8 September 2020 09: 09 New
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    1.
    some Ukrainians.

    Exactly - some.
    2.
    But they were late. The field on which they wanted to work had already been sown with winter crops.

    Last year, the search engines of Gazprom transgaz Moscow (a subsidiary of the Gazprom VO, hated by many readers) raised 4 soldiers near Kursk from a field planted with crops (and the remnants of the T-34, small arms do not count). This year, in spite of the crown, we went to Bryansk, but found nothing. The work is being carried out within the framework of the "Watch of Memory" movement. For several years now. On the territory of all subsidiaries, which are located on the battlefield: transgaz Moscow, St. Petersburg, Volgograd, Krasnodar, Stavropol. And mining Krasnodar). Employees of other Gazprom subsidiaries from areas where there were no battles are involved in the work. All volunteers who want to participate - it's a queue, not everyone is accepted. In addition to search work, military graves are ennobled, including in the well-known author Ostrogozhsk. All the work is financed by the hated, antipopular Gazprom (and it also organizes a lot of administrative support on the ground).
    3. The author, criticizing the authorities, poured a tub of slop over a church in Patriot Park. Perhaps and rightly so. At that time I still reminded - "Don't forget about Rzhev". But apparently the Rzhev memorial is not included in the concept of the author of the criticism of the authorities. On VO about the Rzhevsky monument - not a word! Not even on the news, in my opinion.
  • Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 8 September 2020 10: 40 New
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    Low bows to all search engines! You are doing a great job.
    For me, you are the reincarnation of Medvedev's "Winner" guerrilla unit operating in the rear of the enemy. You are modern "Strong in spirit"!
    All the best and take care of yourself!
  • Blue fox
    Blue fox 8 September 2020 12: 45 New
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    As a search engine I understand Ukrainian colleagues, I agree with them 100% and I wish you further success! By the way, in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia there are many wonderful search engines who work not only in their own country, but also come to Russia on shift and do not shy away from the hardest work.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 8 September 2020 21: 56 New
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    What can I say ... My immense respect for the search engines (no matter what citizenship they are) !!!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 September 2020 22: 22 New
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      Hello! What's wrong with Ukrainian citizenship? People are like people - with their cockroaches in their heads, like all of us. There are a lot of decent and normal ones)).
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 8 September 2020 22: 55 New
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        What's wrong with Ukrainian citizenship?
        Nothing!!! And you know that very well! As well you know that there is Viktor Nikolaevich, whom I respect very much!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 September 2020 23: 29 New
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          Here I am about the same laughing drinks
  • MA3UTA
    MA3UTA 9 September 2020 02: 21 New
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    Godly deed. Will be accepted.
  • Dedok
    Dedok 29 October 2020 16: 19 New
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    Quote: avib
    Absolutely agree. When I visit Germany and see old people, I involuntarily wonder if he (although he was definitely born after the war) put mine over the moat in 41/42 ... I know some Jews who left the USSR for Germany - I can't understand. This is "until next time."


    ...

    And the topic of the article - a deep bow to those who are engaged in this work, regardless of which country / republic they do it.
  • Volzhanin64
    Volzhanin64 8 November 2020 15: 38 New
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    Here they are, real Ukrainians, remembering their kinship and history.
    Well done guys, there would be more of them in Ukraine.