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Having handed over Syria, the UN gave the go-ahead to a new world slaughter

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Having handed over Syria, the UN gave the go-ahead to a new world slaughterCitizens of Russia do not believe in the ability of their country to influence the fate of the world.

England was offered a choice between war and dishonor. She chose dishonor and will get war
(Winston Churchill on the Munich Agreement).

Voting at the UN General Assembly in support of US aggression and al-Qaida in Syria is a milestone. More than 100 countries supported the war and the overthrow of the national government, a little more than a dozen opposed the war.

They used to say the “aggressive NATO bloc”. Today, it has not become customary to say this, although it is today, since the Warsaw Pact left, and NATO has remained, it has already organized with half a dozen wars. Sometimes it is very far outside its “North Atlantic region”: two aggressions in Yugoslavia, a war in Afghanistan, an aggression against Iraq, an aggression in Libya, and Syria is next in line.

However, everything else in all these cases, it acts either with the tacit support of the UN, or formally in accordance with the UN mandate. But if, on a UN mandate, aggressions against independent countries and the overthrow of sovereign governments are organized - who should the UN itself be?

Then we see the “aggressive military-political bloc of the UN”. The UN, of course, was created in 40 for organizing the post-war world. And it was believed that to prevent a new war. But already in 1950, the UN Security Council decided to invade Korea. This war showed that at that time all the forces of the United Nations and its leading participants were not enough to defeat the USSR — and before the division of the USSR such attempts were no longer made. Not because of the peacefulness of New York - it was just clear that there was not enough strength.

What we have today is a typical and classical division of the world. “Imperialism knows only one principle of dividing the world - by force,” was written a hundred years ago. Ahead and the century of the beginning of the first such section, in which the degenerate elite of Russia has drawn the country.

World wars begin with small peripheral wars anticipating them. For the first time it was the Spanish-American war, the Russian-Japanese war, the Balkan wars. In the second - the seizure of Abyssinia by Italy, the invasion of Japan into China, the intervention of Italy and Germany in the civil war in Spain, the annexation of Austria, the partition of Germany, Poland and Hungary of Czechoslovakia.

What is happening today, in terms of the scope of actions and territorial coverage, is many times greater than the wars of the 1914 eve of the year, and 1939’s eve of the year. A hundred years ago, there was no common global interstate organization in the world. Eighty years ago such an organization was the League of Nations. But she turned out to be politically incapacitated: Germany simply abandoned her and went to war without even ignoring, simply without noticing. The maximum anti-war successes of the League are the end of the war between Paraguay and Bolivia in the 1932-35 years. In all other conflicts with her, no one, in general, was considered.

Today there is a comprehensive UN. She is the inspirer and organizer of aggression against sovereign countries, and partly as a tool and instrument of aggression by the most powerful world power.

If Germany, Italy and Japan ignored the League of Nations, the United States and its allies simply turned it into their weapon. When, in the middle of 1990, Boutros-Ghali tried, on behalf of the UN, to stop the NATO aggression in Yugoslavia, he was essentially simply dismissed by the United States from his post.

The main mistake of Russia on the eve of the First World War - it allowed itself to be drawn into the struggle for the interests of others and against its own interests. The main mistake of the USSR (although forced) is the belief in the possibility of stopping the war on the path of international cooperation.

The world in the modern era can be organized only on the basis of a balance of forces. Today's world order reflects the balance of power of the past era - the era of Soviet superpower. The backbone of peaceful life in 1945-1990. were tank factories of the Urals, and with a shield - Korolyov’s missiles. The world was based on the fact that fighting against the USSR was pointless and unpromising: the American analysis of the late 1940s showed no alternative that even with the possession of three hundred nuclear charges in the absence of the USSR, the USA could only count on keeping it under its control British Isles.

Today, only the remaining Soviet rockets (or Russian, but made on the basis of Soviet technologies) are keeping the world today. In the inertial scenario, in a maximum of ten years, the American missile defense system paralyzes this defense. Russia has no more than ten years to prepare for direct aggression against it.

The war in Syria is almost the direct equivalent of the war in Spain in 1936-39. With the difference that at that time the League of Nations formally condemned external intervention in the Spanish civil war, and, frankly speaking, whom it condemned, but today the UN supports such intervention and essentially calls for it.

Then the victory in Spain, Hitler opened the way to Warsaw and Paris. It is very interesting who after Syria will become the object of new US aggression. For now, not Russia. Until. Iran is expected. And many allies of the United States just want to.

Only in the 1939 year, having won in Spain, did Hitler not start a war against the USSR that opposed him in the Pyrenees. He first struck a blow at his ally Poland, which together with him participated just a year ago in the seizure of Czechoslovakia. And in the second - in Britain and France, who silently allowed to defeat the Spanish Republicans and swallow Austria and the Czech Republic.

So allies of the United States, supporting them in Syria, can make a mistake and get "coercion to democracy" in Riyadh or Ankara.

But in any case, Damascus, nothing ends. In general, it is debatable whether it is possible to stop the Third World War. One recipe is, rather, was. But for this you need the USSR.

Russia has a reprieve. But with the current vector of development of events - in one form or another, direct aggression against it by the United States turns out to be almost inevitable. One may engage in conspiracy and psychotherapy. Complacent: “No one will decide to go to war. All will manage. Or malicious, declaring a warning about the inevitability of war by phobia, anti-Americanism and propaganda intimidation - there were those who said all this before 1914 and before 1939.

On the threshold of Russia - world war. And Russia is ready for it worse than it was ready on the eve of 1914 of the year - when its army in combat proficiency was the best in the world, but the political and military leadership was the most stupid in its stories. And worse than the 1939 eve of the year. Even all the unprecedented efforts of the USSR turned out to be insufficient in 1941 - they simply did not have time to fully learn the troops to use the equipment they had at their disposal.

Today, Russia has an army with a staff of thousands of people in 920, with not quite clear level of training and not always updated weapons.

In 1939-41, a powerful, growing modern industry stood behind the army. The state of the military industry in Russia today raises many questions.

By the standards of the speed of development of events on the eve of the Second World War, Russia would have to enter into a direct armed confrontation with the main enemy through 2-4. The nuclear shield stretches the upcoming period for a slightly longer period.

But war is becoming more and more inevitable. It just needs to be understood - and start seriously preparing for it.

At one time, the words “The aggressive NATO bloc” were a stable phrase. The theme of events in Syria does not leave the screens of television and media sites. And while only a minority of Russian citizens are interested in it: according to VTsIOM, 8% is closely watching events, 37% is occasionally interested. In general, all this is not interesting 52%.

It was once the country's citizens who were more worried about what was happening in Honduras than the prices in the store: prices did not change, events in Honduras (Chile, Bolivia, etc.) were viewed as real life and real successes of their own system.

Today, far more people are concerned about the increase in prices and utility bills - 50% and 53%, respectively. Prices are rising, and the fact that the United States somewhere again and again invade, has become too familiar. Yes, and where is Syria know not all. And in the event of a further triumphal march of the Unified State Exam, perhaps those who graduated from school before 1985 will know which continent Syria is on, which Libya and Bolivia are on. That is, Russian education will reach the level of the American one, where not every president knows how Georgia differs from the state of Georgia. By the way, evil tongues say that recently at one of the government meetings the Minister of Education Livanov asked for clarification where Syria is still located - in Africa or in Asia. Rather, it is still a cruel joke. Although it is difficult to say, but it is significant that it appeared at all.

But another thing also affects: citizens do not see the point of being interested in the wars led by the United States, just to not get upset, because they do not believe that Russia will be able to prevent them and protect someone.

There are grounds for thinking that way, because, answering the question what is happening in Syria, only 19% are susceptible to the propaganda of domestic “liberals” and say that there is a “popular uprising against the regime”.

Most, although this point of view is missing not only in the liberal media, but also in official propaganda, with their own mind and without external clues were able to judge that everything that happens is “provocation of other countries for the sake of increasing influence in the region, weakening Syria”. And if among all citizens of such 46%, then among those interested in what is happening - 63%.

A comparable picture is given by the data of the Levada Center, although he tried to somewhat differentiate the questions asked and change the suggested accents. But here the point of view of the positive support of the Syrian militants turned out to have minimal support: only 7% agree that “the Bashar Assad regime carries out a massacre of those who oppose it,” and 36% call things by their proper names and say that in the country there is a civil war, with another 29% claim that "terrorists, incited by the West, are waging a bloody struggle with the country's legitimate government." Although the second and third answers were shared by sociologists, in fact, in fact, they are summarized. Just because, as a rule, any civil war is not just a military confrontation between the two sides, but proceeds with the support of the forces of certain foreign states. And it is more or less clear to everyone that what is happening in Syria would have ended long ago with the victory of the national government, if the side leading the war with it was not supported in personnel, in military-technical, and morally hostile both by Syria and in this case Russia, by external forces.

And this is well understood by those who answered the questions. Because although only 8% of citizens believe in the victory of the national government (over the year there are more and more of them), in reality the victory of his opponents believes a lot less - only 3%. And these during the year is becoming less. But the relative majority believes that everything will end with the intervention of NATO, and 25% - that there is a long civil war ahead. And supporters of both points of view is becoming more and more.

At the same time, 29% of the country's citizens believe (and there are more and more of them) that Russia today should render assistance to Syria, as its natural historical ally. And only 14% believes in the Western version of the violation by the Syrian authorities of “human rights” and would like to support the US and NATO sanctions against the national government of the country. For the repetition of external intervention, similar to what took place in Libya, 3% of citizens are definitely speaking.

At the same time, 28% suggest that Russia simply does not interfere and try to benefit from the ongoing opposition, while the rest do not undertake to determine their position.

These last two indicators are in fact not so much cynicism and indifference as disbelief in one’s strength and the strength of Russia. People suggest simply not to interfere or say that they do not know what to do - because they do not believe that something can be changed. For many, the question arose: “Why interfere somewhere, if everyone won’t win early?”

Citizens of the country do not believe in the ability of their government to complete even a just cause. The country does not believe in their strength. The government does not believe in the strength of the people and is no longer thinking about the fact that it approves its actions, but that the world centers of power and terror approve of them.

But the problem is that the one who is not able to protect the victim of robbery will eventually find himself in the position of the victim of the same robbers, and no one wants to come to his aid.

But, of course, with the help of the USE, awareness of such simple things cannot be achieved.
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  1. John
    John 9 August 2012 06: 19
    +7
    To the author + ... and what specific proposals on this subject?
    1. itr
      itr 9 August 2012 06: 30
      +15
      And what may be the proposal to get the most aggressive others and shut up
      Wreck the European economy and see how they talk
      1. collapse
        collapse 9 August 2012 08: 01
        +11
        It can be seen, nevertheless, that our leadership knows or guesses about something, it was not in vain that such huge injections into the defense industry went, but what’s the question of it ????
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 9 August 2012 12: 00
          -2
          "Infusions into the defense industry", in my opinion, because the rest has already been divided and cut.
      2. starshina78
        starshina78 9 August 2012 20: 39
        +1
        The fact of the matter is that we won’t succeed ... and ruin the European economy. Under no circumstances will Russia directly quarrel with the United States and Europe. Why? The answer is obvious - all the money of the oligarchs, officials, and the state in Europe and the USA. Starting a confrontation means losing your money. Show me at least one official, an oligarch who will give his money for the sake of the country. You will never see this. So you just need to pack up and do your job, increase combat efficiency, change weapons. Yes, and let's say directly - to prepare for war.
    2. komsomolets
      komsomolets 9 August 2012 07: 44
      +15
      Pay attention to how the third world war is inevitably approaching, 10 years ago it was impossible to think about it, and now I am on the threshold and I am witnessing all this impending horror. It is a pity that We are not able to do anything.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 August 2012 09: 23
        +13
        Quote: komsomolets

        Pay attention to how the third world war is inevitably approaching,

        I noticed that 52% of citizens is before the lantern, bye. Everyone has concerns, plans to live well have become carefree, but the fact that a warrior knocks on the door is a fact
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 03
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I drew attention to the fact that 52% of citizens-it’s before the lantern-yet.

          And not only that, but everything else! And some people use it .....
      2. Ataturk
        Ataturk 9 August 2012 09: 30
        +21
        Quote: komsomolets
        Pay attention to how the third world war is inevitably approaching


        3rd World has already begun. Cold truth, but it has begun. Show me a region in a world where there is no war and where pen-do-sa-mi doesn't stink
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 9 August 2012 06: 42
    +15
    Is it really not clear to anyone that, USA, NATO is the world's evil. How can one not see that evil is hiding behind them. Evil that is spreading more and more around the planet. The author is right, Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, etc. With the filing of the United States, NATO and the United Nations, the world turns into no clear what. These organizations, they ....... like a weed in a garden. Like a parasite on the body.

    "The Man from Boulevard des Capuchins"

    - Mr. Fest! From now on and forever my colt and my fists are at your service! But before we leave here with you,
    I have to take revenge on Mr. Second. He defiled the name of the cinema. He sows seeds of hatred in the souls of the audience. He must die.
    “No, Jack.” To each his own. The future will judge us. On the road! Our viewer is waiting for us.
    1. dmitrich
      dmitrich 9 August 2012 06: 51
      +8
      this is understandable to everyone, but they are afraid to blather, blather and tomorrow it will be in your country, that's all.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 9 August 2012 06: 53
        +5
        Quote: Dmitry
        everyone understands this, but they are afraid


        This is a shame.
        1. Armata
          Armata 9 August 2012 07: 15
          +10
          Greetings to all.
          Quote: Vanek
          With the filing of the United States, NATO and the United Nations, the world turns into no clear what. These organizations, they ....... like a weed in a garden. Like a parasite on the body.
          Unfortunately, Vanya, we cannot yet give a fitting rebuff to their aggressive policies. It affects the time of complete decline of our country. But if everything that our president promised is fulfilled (I am not his supporter. He makes too many controversial decisions), then we can restore the balance of power on the planet and speak with them with dignity.
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 9 August 2012 07: 20
            +13
            Eugene, welcome.

            A bit of humor.

            Sometimes you want to save (as in comp. Games) and choose Zhirinovsky as president.
            1. Armata
              Armata 9 August 2012 08: 04
              +12
              Quote: Vanek
              Sometimes you want to save (as in comp. Games) and choose Zhirinovsky as president.

              +++++++ good I think if you select it, he would not be banging on the platform with a slipper, but with another device. laughing
            2. pribolt
              pribolt 9 August 2012 09: 29
              +7
              Quote: Vanek
              Sometimes you want to save (as in comp. Games) and choose Zhirinovsky as president


              For humor + Yes, I wonder where Zhirinovsky would lead? But the election, I think he would cancel
            3. s1н7т
              s1н7т 9 August 2012 12: 05
              0
              Not funny. It’s even sad that many do not see anyone as a potential alternative but specially promoted characters (
              1. Kite
                Kite 9 August 2012 13: 39
                0
                Here, a little humorous above, well, I will offer a smile:
                Let's choose "gopher", it is not promoted on purpose, it is not visible, but it is there!
        2. s1н7т
          s1н7т 9 August 2012 12: 02
          0
          Well, those who deserve, we have in power. Most seem to be fine with everything in this world.
      2. Ustas
        Ustas 9 August 2012 07: 39
        +11
        Quote: Dmitry
        this is understandable to everyone, but they are afraid to blather, blather and tomorrow it will be in your country, that's all.

        It will be "in your country" anyway. Therefore, one must not just speak, one must shout.
        1. Fox
          Fox 9 August 2012 08: 40
          +12
          ] It will be "in your country" anyway. Therefore, it is necessary not only to speak, but to shout. but didn’t try to prepare for war? physical training, shooting, tactics, communication ...? I prepare myself and teach young people .... and you shout louder. can anyone help.
          1. Ustas
            Ustas 9 August 2012 12: 33
            +2
            Quote: Fox
            and didn’t try to prepare for war?

            The question is not substantive. Want peace, get ready for war.
            Just my previous post about something else. About the fact that countries are afraid to "blather".
            We must not be afraid, we must all countries widely use the UN rostrum.
      3. nycsson
        nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 05
        0
        Quote: Dmitry
        but they are afraid to blather

        Or maybe not afraid, maybe the question is in another ...........?
  3. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 9 August 2012 06: 57
    +8
    Article "+".
    The author is right that the West is actually standing at the Rubicon, having crossed which with great probability it will be possible to count, if not days, then months before the start of a great war. And Russia has only one way to survive - is to strengthen preparations for the upcoming war.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 9 August 2012 07: 52
      +2
      Sakhalin, I think we we are standing at the Rubicon, we will try again, we will not hold back Syria, the "partners" will not leave time to prepare for a big war.
  4. Dock
    Dock 9 August 2012 07: 07
    +9
    The most effective way to restore the status quo is a sudden and powerful preventive strike against the main industrial and scientific centers of Amer. After him, most NATO allies are unlikely to dare to enter the war. (In the states themselves, a similar scenario in relation to Russia is actively being considered and even exercises are being conducted to develop it.)
    Unfortunately, there is less and less time for preparation and decision making. The situation is very reminiscent of the pre-war.
    "But the only problem is that one who is not able to protect the victim of a robbery will eventually find himself in the position of a victim of the same robbers, and no one wants to come to his aid."
  5. Ustas
    Ustas 9 August 2012 07: 27
    +12
    In general, it is debatable whether the third world war can be stopped. One recipe is, or rather, was. But for this need the USSR.

    Golden words!
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 9 August 2012 12: 08
      +1
      One can only add that the collapse of the USSR was part of a plan to unleash a world war. Who participated there, we all remember.
  6. Karabin
    Karabin 9 August 2012 07: 42
    +9
    But the problem is that the person who is not able to protect the victim of robbery will eventually find himself in the victim’s position
    Is Russia, even in the current state of affairs, not capable of protecting Syria? We can’t supply modern weapons, and not only defensive ones? What prevents us, in agreement with Assad, from having a real military presence in Tartus? We are able to protect Syria. The question lies on a different plane, in the ability of the country's leadership to make a decision.
    The authorities do not believe in the strength of the people and thinks more not about their approval of their actions, but about their approval by world centers of power
    It is not regrettable, but I agree with the author.
    PS England was offered a choice between war and dishonor. She chose dishonor and will get war
    (W. Churchill on the Munich Agreement). In the situation around Syria, Russia so far chooses dishonor.
    1. KamikadZzzE
      KamikadZzzE 9 August 2012 08: 07
      +6
      Karabin,
      A herd of lions driven by a lion is stronger than a herd of lions driven by a sheep.
      Just like in a famous saying, put the comma correctly ...
    2. volcano
      volcano 9 August 2012 08: 36
      +4
      Karabin
      Everything is not as simple as you think.
      Before going to the end on the Syrian issue, one must be one hundred percent sure that the country will withstand the consequences.
      An elementary example. Amer, in revenge for our perseverance in Syria, bring down the price of oil, all of our foreign accounts freeze and impose sanctions against Russia.
      In your opinion, in this situation, how long will we last?
      The United States should be considered exclusively in conjunction with Europe, and these are our main buyers of resources. Unfortunately, we ourselves tied up our budget for the export of raw materials.
      So maybe we want to bring the Syrian issue to the end, but it’s prickling.
      Therefore, I think that we are waging a political struggle and trying to win, but at the same time keep our "money".
      In the case of direct military intervention, this is not possible.
      1. Sanches
        Sanches 9 August 2012 08: 46
        +1
        volcano RU Today, 08:36
        An elementary example. Amer, in revenge for our perseverance in Syria, bring down the price of oil, all of our foreign accounts freeze and impose sanctions against Russia.
        here should be added the maddening fear for the portfolio, which, in general, led to this pose "siu"
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 9 August 2012 12: 16
        +2
        In response, block the pipe to the West, send troops to Iran, Iraq, strike / destroy Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc. They will last a long time, I wonder? And there, you see, we will agree with the PRC on zones of influence laughing
  7. Igarr
    Igarr 9 August 2012 07: 48
    +7
    Yeah - ah.
    you read this ...
    and then you remember the Chinese - God deliver us to live in a time of change.
    "Change, we want change."
    Who else wants it?
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 9 August 2012 11: 25
      +5
      Quote: Igarr
      “Change, we want change.” Who else wants it?

      "Change, we are waiting for change!" countries. I want NATa to wake up again in a cold sweat shouting "the Russians are coming", and their secretary general threw himself out of the window in panic. I agree for this on the sacrifices on my part. "We are waiting for changes!"
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 9 August 2012 12: 57
        +4
        If only to wait for it.
        And then after all, they promised us that ... to turn to face people - it turned out ... an ass.
        They promised capitalism with a human face - they saw a predatory grin of gangster lawlessness.
        Sovereignty - resulted in a civil massacre.
        Decent work and decent salary - turned into a collapse of the economy.
        ...
        It's hard to live like that, hard, Alex.
        1. revnagan
          revnagan 9 August 2012 23: 32
          0
          Quote: Igarr
          It's hard to live like that, hard, Alex.

          True, hard. But something needs to be done. Would you know exactly what? Here you are by chance, don’t you know?
  8. Apollo
    Apollo 9 August 2012 07: 48
    +7
    Thinly poor, but the UN (although it no longer fulfills the functions assigned to it to the full extent) is still the only restraining factor on the path of US aggressive policy.
    In my opinion, the membership of the UN Security Council should be increased from the current 5 to 7, with the inclusion there of, for example, friendly towards Russia, India and the inclusion in the list of neutral countries from the African continent.
    Generally UN reforms are long overdue and currently require their permission.
    1. Sanches
      Sanches 9 August 2012 08: 38
      +4
      One of the reforms should be the replacement of the mattress in the spikelets of the UN emblem with the St. Andrew flag. Oh, dreams, dreams ...
  9. sergey32
    sergey32 9 August 2012 07: 50
    +8
    It is urgent to give Syria economic support at a difficult time for it (supply of grain, oil products, etc.)
  10. patriot2
    patriot2 9 August 2012 08: 43
    +6
    Not only is the situation reminiscent of 1939, there is also a 5th column - the amercenaries of the Amers are now being activated.
    Well, and most importantly, you need to talk about help to Syria, but you need to really help comprehensively. When there is help, there is an effect from it. No help - that now. And China says a lot, but in reality?
    The UN is really an instrument in the hands of the states and their satellites, thanks to the hump reformer since 1990 Russia has ceased to be a counterweight to the Amers. Other countries, while declaring their striving for peace from the UN rostrum, do not have any practical impact on this process, acting on the principle "your shirt is closer to your body." It is difficult for Russia now, very difficult!
  11. Knowing
    Knowing 9 August 2012 08: 50
    +1
    Cho laurels (or who is there?) can not say anything to them? it is clear that the people support the government request
  12. Jungar
    Jungar 9 August 2012 09: 33
    +7
    At one time I did not believe that Russia and China could come to an agreement, and I considered China the main enemy of Russia, and there were reasons for that. And now we see an amazing coordination of the actions of the two powers in matters of foreign policy. The landslide nature and swiftness of the development of events made the impossible for me the only way out. All friction and roughness between Russia and China gave way to an understanding of the common strategic goals, individually we will not be able to resist the West. Of course, it would be very beautiful to bare weapons and stand in Syria, as at the first line of our defense. But then we would be in the position of Russia in the first world war. Neither Russia nor China are now making "sharp movements", there is no need for this, but they stand firm, it is enough to listen to the hysteria of the Western paranoid. Today, the issue of peace is so global that everything goes beyond the well-being of individual countries, be it Russia or China ... Western aggression, in the absence of the USSR, can only be resisted by an alliance of the scientific, military, industrial and resource potential of Russia and the technological, military, financial , labor and human potential of China. Here are just incomprehensible strange throwings of India.
  13. IRBIS
    IRBIS 9 August 2012 09: 50
    +3
    Everything is correct. It is a pity that at the present time the people have developed a kind of "political poherism." Many questions of the state's foreign policy are not of interest to the majority. I do not consider the war in Syria a political defeat for Russia. We have done almost everything, then only direct intervention remains. But our "allies" have appeared in all their glory. We must draw conclusions and continue to strengthen our armed forces. A strong army is a powerful argument in international disputes.
  14. DNA
    DNA 9 August 2012 09: 57
    +3
    The fact that worse prepared is understandable and this will help what helped the USSR is:
    1) Scientific and technological revolution throughout the CIS.
    2) Large-scale industrialization, we need factories for the manufacture of everything from A to Z.
    3) The consolidation of the economic zone of the CIS space in the present and not on paper.
    4) Cooperation of states in the economy, industry and culture.
    5) Agreement on a common military doctrine in the CIS.
    6) The destruction of the Western ideology of the values ​​of life and the construction of their principles of life and the raising of the moral spirit of the whole people.
    This is my view on the preparation for future aggression by external and internal enemies.
  15. Che
    Che 9 August 2012 09: 58
    +4
    Only in the 1939 year, having won in Spain, did Hitler not start a war against the USSR that opposed him in the Pyrenees. He first struck a blow at his ally Poland, which together with him participated just a year ago in the seizure of Czechoslovakia. And in the second - in Britain and France, who silently allowed to defeat the Spanish Republicans and swallow Austria and the Czech Republic.
    Here are the results of the work of the general people - through their efforts the world is heading for war. I do not think that the future lies with them. In truth, power is the truth with us.
  16. prispek
    prispek 9 August 2012 10: 25
    +3
    Article +
    I completely agree with the assessment of the role of the UN both in the times of the Cold War and now. Without a powerful counterbalance in the form of nuclear weapons, tank forces and the colossal defense industry of the USSR, the UN quickly turned into an organization serving the interests of the United States and NATO.
    I don’t think that "The war in Syria is almost a direct analogue of the war in Spain" Yet the situation was completely different then (as it seems to me)
    Well, the fact that without mentioning the "propaganda of domestic liberals" and "liberal mass media" (who and what is meant?) Is not without the majority of articles on the site, so this is just a banality.
    It is not possible to disagree with the author that the world is heading for a great war. This clearly seems to everyone who knows how and wants to think.
    It’s sad. I lived, but I feel sorry for the children.
  17. alex pav
    alex pav 9 August 2012 10: 43
    +3
    Strike Ahead:
    1. Supply Iran with Iskanders.
    2. Iran strikes Qatar (tactical nuclear weapons), destroys all oil fields, ports, all tankers. (erases Qatar from the face of the earth).
    3. Iran strikes oil and gas fields in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries supporting the Arab League.
    4. Russia supports Iran, stating that its actions correspond to the national interests of Russia.
    5. Russia (possibly) closes (temporarily) the valves to Europe to cool too hot local heads.
    6. Russia is negotiating with friendly countries not to increase energy supplies.
    7. The price of oil is growing rapidly.
    8. Russia opens valves, raises the price for intractable consumers (including for China, if it "suddenly" is not on the side of Russia).
    9. In the event of aggression against Iran (it is possible) to deploy a couple of air armies (with modern aircraft), S-300, anti-ship missiles, several nuclear submarines-killers of aircraft carriers on its territory, it is possible to significantly flood a couple of ships with their help.

    The question is whether there is enough courage to declare your nat. interests?
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 9 August 2012 11: 12
      +6
      Quote: alex-pav

      Strike Ahead:
      1. Supply Iran with Iskanders.


      Alex, by God I don’t want to offend you, but when you write, write real things and not fiction. What Iskander and even to Iran.
      From our posts, the Kremlin’s strategy will not change. What we are doing maximum here is to foresee the situation in a certain region and also to understand the outcome, how it ended and what promises.

      Please write on the case and realistic. And then somehow interest is lost in communication, thinking that I communicate with children.

      S-300 refused to Iran but Iskander will be sent right?

      Quote: alex-pav
      2. Iran strikes Qatar (tactical nuclear weapons), destroys all oil fields, ports, all tankers. (erases Qatar from the face of the earth).

      What kind of nonsense? After that, Iran will be erased not only from the face of the earth, but also from history.

      Quote: alex-pav
      3. Iran strikes oil and gas fields in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries supporting the Arab League.

      Yes, Iran fled, it took and bombed the entire Arabian Peninsula, and Israel, in addition, will observe the whole world, they say Iran has Iskandera))))))

      Quote: alex-pav
      Russia supports Iran, saying that its actions correspond to the national interests of Russia.

      Do you know then what will happen to Russia if Russia does this? Russia confirms and gives GOOD to Iran to bomb the entire Arabian Peninsula. Rave.

      Quote: alex-pav
      6. Russia is negotiating with friendly countries not to increase energy supplies.

      After the above, economically this will be done with Russia. One just an example .... If the Americans fill up the dollar, Russia will be with its economy during the time of Peter the Great if not further. To I. the Terrible.

      Quote: alex-pav
      Russia opens valves, raises the price for intractable consumers

      For the same dollars?
      1. Midshipman
        Midshipman 9 August 2012 11: 44
        +1
        Listen, stop bullying already. What do you think, what will they do with Russia if it helps Iran and what will they do with it if it does NOT help? I believe that they will do the same and Russia will have much less chances.
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 9 August 2012 12: 11
          +5
          Quote: Midshipman
          Listen, stop bullying already.


          I have no such habit of scaring people. I wrote, you can refute my messages, I will say thanks, but with facts.

          Quote: Midshipman
          What do you think will be done to Russia if it helps Iran


          What did the USSR do in the 90th? Russia is currently very dependent on the West. Even if all countries are wiped off the face of the earth, Russia is not able to feed its people even despite the strategic reserve (It is intended for residents of the Russian capitals. Peter and Moscow) and others?

          And if it’s real, what can the West do if Russia refuses to cooperate with the West? West will remember

          1) On freedom of rights and the state of citizens of Chechens. Kadyrov immediately receive a RED CARD from the west.
          2) Everyone will begin to help Georgia. Accordingly, put pressure on Abkhazia and Ossetia.
          3) Promote the question of the Tatars.
          4) They will tell the Armenians and their lobby, or you are clinging to us, or you are supporting Russia and Azerbaijan from and to. And it’s time for you to implement 4 UN resolutions. Further on the script.
          Do you think the Armenians will side with Russia, or with the United States, which is the third homeland of Armenians? Or France? So with this, too, everything is clear. Russia is losing the southern Caucasus.
          5) They will not give up the bombing of Iran, Iran will smash. And then there is enough oil to not need the services of Russia. Imagine the prices will go down, like in the good old days at 20 bucks a barrel, you know what awaits Russia's economy?
          6) Everything and everyone will do bypassing Russia.

          In short, the launch of the 3rd World War.

          Quote: Midshipman
          and what will they do if she does NOT help?

          Russia and so does not help. If Iran does not help, then all 6 points will remain in a closed folder.


          Quote: Midshipman
          I believe that they will do the same and Russia will have much less chances.


          God bless me to make a mistake.

          I wish peace and prosperity to Russia. I sincerely wish.


          ps Russia is obliged to raise its economy, agriculture, army and not need anything from anyone else.
      2. alex pav
        alex pav 9 August 2012 11: 53
        +3
        Quote: Ataturk
        Do you know then what will happen to Russia if Russia does this? Russia confirms and gives GOOD to Iran to bomb the entire Arabian Peninsula. Rave.

        America and NATO do nothing, and explain everything nat. interests and invented horror stories.

        Quote: Ataturk
        One just an example .... If the Americans fill up the dollar, Russia will

        Not one Russia, but the whole world, and not Russia the leader in dollar reserves.

        In the modern world, only force is respected, and its demonstration, and even more so decisive, can fundamentally change the current layouts and open doors that are not available before.

        Quote: Ataturk
        The real reason Russia is opposed to tough international action against the Assad regime
        we do not know, we only make assumptions. And it can be not only in what you wrote, but also, for example, economic: the division of the territory of Syria, the laying of gas, oil pipelines to Turkey and further to Europe, thereby inflicting a strong blow on Russia (with a large increase in supply volumes and a possible fall in prices "below the plinth").
        And an economic blow can be much more sensitive than a military one, up to the collapse of the country. (the consequences of one we saw in the 90s).

        And only a real "national leader" (or a dictator, or an emperor, or call it what you want) can act tough.

        And today the issue of Syria and Iran is a matter of the country's future survival in a new world order.
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 9 August 2012 12: 16
          +3
          Quote: alex-pav
          America and NATO do nothing, and explain everything nat. interests and invented horror stories.


          Because yours and ours and many economies are held hostage by the United States. We all work for the benefit of pen-do-owls. This is 100% I guarantee you.
          They consider themselves masters of the world. Has anyone ever raised the question of what pen-dos did to the Japanese? THIS GENOCIDE.

          With the Vietnamese? Genocide!

          The USA has not one or two such genocides behind its neck. But everyone is silent. Is this not enough to understand everything about running errands in the USA?

          Quote: alex-pav
          Not one Russia, but the whole world, and not Russia the leader in dollar reserves.

          Correctly. Now tell me, which country is ready to provide itself with food? Do not need from outside. Here they will be no less. And the rest of KYRDYK in full.

          Quote: alex-pav
          we do not know, we only make assumptions. And it can be not only in what you wrote, but also, for example, economic: the division of the territory of Syria, the laying of gas, oil pipelines to Turkey and further to Europe, thereby inflicting a strong blow on Russia (with a large increase in supply volumes and a possible fall in prices "below the plinth").
          And an economic blow can be much more sensitive than a military one, up to the collapse of the country. (the consequences of one we saw in the 90s).


          Here is another matter. Now write as a reasonable and adult person. Nice to read. That's right!
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 45
            +2
            Quote: Ataturk
            Now tell me, which country is ready to provide itself with food?

            But this is a particularly painful topic! Today, Russia is 60% dependent on food imports, and this is practically a loss of national security! It’s just that at the right moment they will stop importing kirdyk, teeth on the shelf ........ And there the oil price will collapse and that’s all, the carcasses are light ..........
            Soon it will begin, very soon ........
            1. alex pav
              alex pav 9 August 2012 13: 44
              -2
              Quote: nycsson
              But this is a particularly painful topic! Today, Russia is 60% dependent on food imports, and this is practically a loss of national security! It’s just that at the right moment they will stop importing kirdyk, teeth on the shelf ........ And there the oil price will collapse and that’s all, the carcasses are light ..........

              With a "smart" approach, Russia can be a completely self-sufficient state (both in agriculture, and in all (or many) industries, and in energy resources), in contrast to very many other states.
              All you need is a leader, a cat. will act in the interests of the people and the country, and not in the interests of the "VVP clan" (or the West).
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 9 August 2012 21: 16
                0
                About smart approaches in our country, I have not heard anything for a long time!
                Quote: alex-pav
                All you need is a leader, a cat. will act in the interests of the people and the country, and not in the interests of the "VVP clan" (or the West).

                That's for sure! Nothing to add!
    2. Midshipman
      Midshipman 9 August 2012 11: 40
      +1
      Absolutely true, one must be proactive, impose his will on the enemy, using all available means. Masks have already been taken off, it is criminal to pretend that nothing is happening.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 40
        -1
        Quote: Midshipman
        Masks have already been taken off, it’s criminal to pretend that nothing is happening.

        That's the whole point that is criminal, and in relation to its citizens!
        Yes, what am I talking about, they all understand perfectly! The only trouble is that the Russian people are sleeping and can’t see anything! And when he wakes up, it will probably be too late, although we will not get used to get out of the swamp! But this time we got stuck too deep there, I'm afraid the strength isn’t enough to get out .............
        1. alex pav
          alex pav 9 August 2012 13: 48
          -1
          Quote: nycsson
          The only trouble is that the Russian people are sleeping and can’t see anything! And when he wakes up, it will probably be too late, although we will not get used to get out of the swamp! But this time we got stuck too deep there, I'm afraid the strength isn’t enough to get out .............

          Everything is correct, and it plays into their hands, they just need to complete the construction of the police state in order to suppress the indignation of the people and prevent new national leaders from emerging.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 9 August 2012 21: 22
            0
            Quote: alex-pav
            Everything is correct, and it plays into their hands, they just need to complete the construction of the police state in order to suppress the indignation of the people and prevent new national leaders from emerging.

            What are they doing with the help of this "united Russia" in the State Duma! How many anti-national laws have already been pushed through!
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 9 August 2012 11: 50
      +1
      Quote: alex-pav
      1. Supply Iran with Iskanders.

      Have you ever wondered why they still haven’t been set? And including the S-300? I’m constantly thinking about it! The conclusions are not comforting for me ......
      Quote: alex-pav
      The question is whether there is enough courage to declare your nat. interests?

      I'm afraid that is not enough! Tired of repeating already, in order to have an independent political will, a strong army and an independent economy are needed, and we have neither one nor the other! Unfortunately.......
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 9 August 2012 12: 17
        +4
        Quote: nycsson
        Have you ever wondered why they still haven’t been set? And including the S-300? I’m constantly thinking about it! The conclusions are not comforting for me ......


        Absolutely right dear. You are a plus. I really like to communicate with realists.

        Quote: nycsson
        Tired of repeating already, in order to have an independent political will, a strong army and an independent economy are needed, and we have neither one nor the other!

        +1000000000000
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 34
          +3
          Quote: Ataturk
          Absolutely right dear. You are a plus. I really like to communicate with realists.

          Mutually! You are one of not many adequate people in this forum!
          1. OSTAP BENDER
            OSTAP BENDER 9 August 2012 19: 47
            +2
            And loyal to the people of Russia, loyal, not sold !!!
  18. Pacifist
    Pacifist 9 August 2012 10: 45
    +4
    Author big bold plus
    IMHO It is not sad, but what is written is true. The world is really heading for war. Great war. Unfortunately, I did not find it, but there was an analytical article on the strategic calculations of a future war. In the first year, the total losses of the parties will exceed 2 million people. It will not be that pure war in which the Peps are trying to convince us ... according to analysts, if it is not stopped in a year, then with a probability close to .8 it will develop first into a local and then into a global nuclear one, by the middle of the second year.
    Further I think it is not necessary to explain. According to the calculations of that article, at the end of the second year of the war, the total losses from direct and side effects of hostilities may exceed 10% of the world's population. There is a chance to end this mess before it starts. It is already being formed quite transparently, it is simple and at the same time, unfortunately, difficult to achieve. It is necessary to form a military-political alliance from Russia, Belarus, China, India, Vietnam, Venezuela. With an officially declared defensive doctrine. The main rule of which should be, like NATO, "An attack on any of the participating countries is interpreted as an attack on the entire alliance and leads to an adequate reaction against the aggressor." Further, the official announcement of the formation of a global system to counter the violation of the balance of power, with the deployment of its own mobile missile defense system and a system of advanced readiness to suppress the vector of projection of NATO forces. Everything must be done openly. The carriage will stink, but only the stink will end. In the current situation, the United States and the entire NATO bloc, neither in terms of resources, nor in terms of technology, will not be able to gain advantages and exert significant pressure on such a structure. And with the balance of power established after that, the outbreak of a world conflict becomes a very elusive prospect. There are still thoughts on this issue, but there are many of them and the format of the commentary to the article does not imply long statements. request
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 9 August 2012 11: 46
      0
      Quote: Pacifist
      The formation of a military-political union from Russia, Belarus, China, India, Vietnam, Venezuela is necessary.

      Recently I read a book, I don’t remember the name. The first chapter is called the habitat crisis. The point is that the world's population is overpopulated. By 2050, we will be 9.5 billion. !!! And today we are witnessing a struggle for survival! Its main goal is to reduce the world's population to 3-4 billion! One force has long been formed - these are the countries of the so-called golden billion: the USA, England, Japan, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Australia and some more! Another force still can not decide what to do, well, these are the rest of the country! I’m all of this to the fact that there will still be a war whether these other countries will agree or not! It's about world domination!
      Already today there is an acute shortage of drinking water and food! And the farther into the forest, the more firewood ..........
      1. Pacifist
        Pacifist 9 August 2012 11: 49
        +2
        The question is whether this war will stop at the level of achieving parity of forces, or will be completed only by the destruction of the participating states. There will be no union, there will be a second option.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 11
          0
          Quote: Pacifist
          The question is whether this war will stop at the level of achieving parity of forces, or will be completed only by the destruction of the participating states. There will be no union, there will be a second option.

          I think that there can be no talk of power parity! Not for that they were ruining the USSR to sit at the negotiating table! All trouble, world trouble, lies in the collapse of the USSR and the weakness of Russia! What can we oppose, but nothing! The second option will be anyway!
          1. Pacifist
            Pacifist 9 August 2012 12: 35
            +1
            Not at all necessary. They need war to gain benefits, while they want to stay alive in order to use these. If they clearly see that their personal losses will be unacceptable. A parity world will be established.
            Dying for whatever, they are not ready.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 9 August 2012 13: 37
              0
              Quote: Pacifist
              Dying for whatever, they are not ready.

              Yes, you understand, the elite will not die, ordinary citizens will die, to whom they do not care! The more they die, the better for them !!!
      2. Sanches
        Sanches 9 August 2012 12: 10
        +1
        nycsson RU Today, 11:46
        Recently I read a book, I don’t remember the name. The first chapter is called the habitat crisis. The point is that the world's population is overpopulated. By 2050, we will be 9.5 billion. !!! And today we are witnessing a struggle for survival! Its main goal is to reduce the world's population to 3-4 billion! One force has long been formed - these are the countries of the so-called golden billion: the USA, England, Japan, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Australia and some more! Another force still can not decide what to do, well, these are the rest of the country! I’m all of this to the fact that there will still be a war whether these other countries will agree or not! It's about world domination!
        Already today there is an acute shortage of drinking water and food! And the farther into the forest, the more firewood ..........
        I’m not Lukashenko, but potatoes can really feed the entire current population, and even three times as much. The amount of drinking water is enough, it just is unevenly distributed. All water returns, is filtered by the water cycle in nature and goes back into circulation, it will never run dry. Especially in our time, when we learned to make even sea water. Ecological and most efficient marine and ocean power plants, as well as wind generators, can easily replace all nuclear power plants in the world.
        The idea of ​​a golden billion did not come from survival problems, but from nostalgia for slave-owning America, and the understanding that they would not be able to keep too many slaves
  19. alex pav
    alex pav 9 August 2012 10: 48
    +2
    The question is - is there enough courage to declare your national interests?
    Or do they have other interests?

    Or will the fear of losing the "accumulated" and placed in the West, the rich and promised "warm" place after the redivision of the world prevail?
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 9 August 2012 11: 18
      +2
      Quote: alex-pav
      Or will the fear of losing the "accumulated" and placed in the West, the rich and promised "warm" place after the redivision of the world prevail?

      Many Russians believe that the fall of the Assad regime is tantamount to the loss by Russia of its last satellite and ally in the Middle East, and the final elimination of traces of former Soviet influence in the region, no matter how ghostly these traces may be. They believe that Western intervention in Syria (which Russia cannot resist by military means) will become a deliberate desecration of one of the few remaining symbols of Russia's status as a great world power.

      This attitude is further reinforced by widespread pessimism about the outcome of the Arab spring in general and the Syrian revolution in particular. Most Russian observers believe that the Arab revolutions completely destabilized the situation in the region and paved the way for Islamists to power. Moscow believes that the only real alternative to Islamist rule is secular authoritarian governments.

      The ongoing struggle in the Arab countries is seen as a battle between those who wear ties and those who do not wear them. Russians have long suffered from Islamist terrorism and extremism in the North Caucasus, and therefore they stand firmly on the side of those who wear ties.

      To people in Moscow, Assad seems more like not a “bad dictator,” but a secular leader who fights against the rebellion of Islamist barbarians. The active support of the Syrian rebels from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the Islamic government of Turkey only strengthens Russians' suspicions that the opposition in Syria is Islamic in nature, like all rebels in the Middle East.
    2. UAZ Patriot
      UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 12: 03
      +1
      That is why now there is a war of two types of elites in our kingdom, the state, and judging by yesterday's inform. an attack on the liberals in the face of not just anyone but Medvedev himself is coming Stalin's purge of the ranks.
      1. UAZ Patriot
        UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 12: 17
        0
        Here is an article to confirm my words:

        "Media and political scientists: a scandalous film about the war in South Ossetia - the beginning of the campaign against Medvedev and a symbol of the split of the tandem"

        http://warfiles.ru/show-11093-smi-i-politologi-skandalnyy-film-o-voyne-v-yuo-nac
        halo-kampanii-protiv-medvedeva-i-simvol-raskola-tandema.html
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 53
        +1
        Quote: UAZ Patriot
        That is why now there is a war of two types of elites in our kingdom, the state, and judging by yesterday's inform. an attack on the liberals in the face of not just anyone but Medvedev himself is coming Stalin's purge of the ranks.

        I watched the movie! It is not yet known what this will lead to!
        1. UAZ Patriot
          UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 13: 32
          +1
          We hope for the best, prepare for the worst! winked
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 9 August 2012 13: 40
            0
            Quote: UAZ Patriot
            We hope for the best, prepare for the worst!

            That's for sure! One thing I can say - a split has begun in our elite! So they could run into Medvedev only with Putin’s instructions! Don’t go to your grandmother! recourse
            1. UAZ Patriot
              UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 13: 59
              -1
              This is a fact, I heard Medvedev wants to send to the Far East in the fall away from his western friends? In my opinion, this is only the beginning of his persecution by the GDP.
              1. kush62
                kush62 9 August 2012 17: 37
                -1
                Putin himself must have called and said in secret.
  20. Kite
    Kite 9 August 2012 10: 58
    +1
    Of course, everything seems hopeless, "striped whales" climb everywhere! But, ..., name the country that after the occupation became a loyal, reliable ally to these striped "bugs" (not the government, but the people)
    We cannot afford to protect everyone, and open physical assistance is necessarily interpreted as a cruel game of two enemies on foreign territory, a game of alien lives. And as a result, we can increase the number of ideological enemies.
    We can only demonstrate our own determination and readiness to withstand any force, and we will provide moral support to those who consider their own position in the world possible. If something happens, what is being written about here, then, I hope, previously offended by the stripes, they will, if not help us, stand at least aside. And then - not bad!
    We have little time to prepare for the big battle for life, but there is not enough time for the Amers to resolve their crisis and at the same time to put together a block of “friends of Russia”. The United States and China, the United States and India, and the United States-Germany are unlikely to be in this block!
    1. Kite
      Kite 9 August 2012 12: 37
      0
      Here's another article with the layout of the situation around Syria:
      http://warfiles.ru/show-11078-siriyskaya-golovolomka-i-evolyuciya-mirovoy-sistem
      y.html
      similar considerations are already expressed there in more detail.
  21. Ataturk
    Ataturk 9 August 2012 11: 15
    +3
    For alex-pav

    Many in the West believe that Russian support for Syria is based on Moscow’s desire to profit from the supply of arms to the government of Bashar al-Assad and to maintain a naval base in the Syrian port of Tartus. However, these assumptions are superficial and incorrect. The real reason Russia is opposed to tough international action against the Assad regime is because it fears the spread of Islamic radicalism and the loss of its superpower status in a world where Western countries are increasingly unilaterally conducting military intervention.

    Since 2005, the amount of military contracts with Syria is only 5,5 billion dollars. Basically, this is work to modernize the Syrian Air Force and Air Defense. And although Syria timely and on a schedule pays for the supplied equipment, Russia slowed down many contracts for political reasons. The contract for four MiG-31E fighters was canceled altogether. And recently it became known that Russia stopped the planned deliveries to Syria of S-300 mobile anti-aircraft missile systems.

    Syria is one of the important Russian buyers, but this is by no means a key customer of Russian weapons. In 2011, it accounted for only 5% of global sales of Russian military equipment. In fact, Russia has long been refraining from supplying Damascus with the most powerful weapons systems, so as not to cause outrage in Israel and the West. Sometimes she goes for it even to the detriment of her commercial and political ties with Syria.

    Let’s say clearly and clearly: arms deliveries to Syria today are of little importance for Russia, either from a commercial or military-technical point of view, and Syria is not an important partner of Russia in military-technical cooperation.

    In fact, Russia could easily resell to third parties the weapons ordered by the Syrians (especially the most expensive models, such as fighters and anti-aircraft missile systems), thus minimizing their losses. Even if the Assad government survives, it will be significantly weakened, and is unlikely to be able to continue to buy Russian weapons.

    The current Russian policy towards Syria boils down to the support of the Assad government and the prevention of foreign intervention aimed at overthrowing it, as it was in Libya. President Vladimir Putin simply directs public opinion and the opinion of the expert community in the right direction, playing the usual role of a defender of Russian interests, holding back Western ideas.
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 9 August 2012 11: 32
      +2
      Quote: Ataturk
      and the loss of its superpower status in the world

      Greetings! So she lost this status a long time ago!
      Quote: Ataturk
      and to prevent foreign intervention aimed at overthrowing it, as it was in Libya.

      I think the opinion of Russia in this matter will not be taken into account! They do not attack just because the "X" hour has not yet struck! Maybe they are waiting for the end of the Olympiad or something else! I personally have no doubts that they will attack! It's a question of time!
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 9 August 2012 11: 51
        +1
        Quote: nycsson
        Greetings!

        Good afternoon.

        Quote: nycsson
        So she lost this status a long time ago!

        For some reason, I think, seeing everything that is happening in the world, seeing these cancellations of armed contracts, there is an idea to believe that Putin is at one with them. With them, I mean with the West. You can’t take Russia with your bare hands, they know and understand this in pen-si, and why not make friends? Do not bribe? Do not lure something? Like they did with Humpback.

        I really, really, really hope that the authorities of KREMLIN, not the same boat with the west, if I’m not mistaken, then humanity has 2 options.

        1) Overthrow the Kremlin leaders and put a real patriot of Russia, who will respect and love their citizens, not just St. Petersburg and Moscow.

        2) If reconciled, then we can prepare for slavery. I'm not kidding. You will see.

        Russia is the only country in the world that is able to withstand this from the West. Otherwise, this is waiting for us



        Listen from 3 minutes and preferably everything from and to. This is slavery !! Look only 5 min. and be aware of what is happening!.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 9 August 2012 12: 17
          +4
          Quote: Ataturk
          For some reason, I think, seeing everything that is happening in the world, seeing these cancellations of armed contracts, there is an idea to believe that Putin is at one with them. With them, I mean with the West.

          You have not discovered a planet for me, believe me! On this issue I have the same opinion with you! Otherwise, no logic is obtained!
          Quote: Ataturk
          If we reconcile, we can prepare for slavery. I'm not kidding. You will see.

          I read a lot about it and looked! Quite a long time I'm interested in all this disgrace! I know this is not a joke! Soon you will not have the right to give birth without a child’s permission, not to mention everything else! Now they throw me minuses for such words!

          "I really, really, really hope that the authorities of the KREMLIN are not in the same boat with the west."
          And I have this hope almost died ...........
        2. Ilyich
          Ilyich 9 August 2012 21: 15
          +1
          Quote: Ataturk
          there is an idea to believe that Putin is at the same time with them. With them, I mean with the West. You can’t take Russia with your bare hands, they know and understand this in pen-si, and why not make friends? Do not bribe? Do not lure something? Like they did with Humpback.

          I think you are wrong. If you were right, there would be no cancellation of the "production sharing agreement", there would be no adoption of the "Law on NGOs", there would be no more and more accelerating rearmament of the army and navy, there would be no economic growth, there would not be much another.
          Judging by business. as before yes
  22. alex pav
    alex pav 9 August 2012 11: 22
    +2
    "And as a result, we can increase the number of ideological enemies."

    The number of enemies is unlikely to increase - there are enough of them, and friends can appear when they see that we can not only by word, but also by deed.

    A nat. interests are more important than someone's "interpretation". And after the "open physical assistance", the dissatisfied will only "bark", but the ardor of real action will diminish a little.

    And it is better to have "open physical assistance" on a foreign territory than then possible military action on one's own.
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 9 August 2012 11: 34
      -3
      I have one close friend, a Russian guy. Sergey’s name. Works at customs. Yes, and very fond of politics. His father was once the head of the border guards on the Afghan-Tajik border. I really like talking to him on politics. When I last spoke with him, he openly wrote this and wrote on the net without fear of his work and putting his esteemed father in a non-deft position. And so I put his text.

      The topic of our conversation with him was

      Russia surrendered Syria

      The US State Department was pleased with Russia's refusal to supply arms to Syria until the armed clashes end there, but the US side is awaiting official confirmation of this information from the Russian Federation, said State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell.


      We read his answer. He sent it to me.

      Of course we are satisfied - now only pen-do-sovsk weapons will be delivered to Syria.

      Vladimir Putin refused to grant Assad political asylum.
      Is it very important for Putin that Assad be shot?
      Or is he disgusted by people who have a lot of vector politics?
      Assad often traveled to Paris than to Moscow, so let his beloved France
      and gives him refuge.
      Or take the same Serbs? Have they ever been friends with Russia?
      No! They always turned their nose, and now they are sitting in der.
      We really have no real allies. Multi-vector is already a mid-achievement.
      There was Ethiopia, but we betrayed them and the country fell into two parts.
      You need to understand that everyone in the world is well aware of this.

      Well said on this subject, the rabbi on the transfer Shevchenko:
      "Russia has a very bad reputation in the world: it betrays everyone if you are friends with it, end up on a stake, like Najibullah, or in a noose, like Hussein, or die in The Hague under strange circumstances."
      Of course, such an immoral country should soon disappear from geographic maps,
      as M. Thatcher said: "Russia is definitely dying."

      Most likely we will not have time to find a normal president.
      It is a pity.


      Please forgive me if someone touches this post.
      1. UAZ Patriot
        UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 12: 34
        +4
        The phrase: "Assad went to Paris more often than to Moscow, so let his beloved France
        and provides him with sanctuary. "Was actually pronounced like this."Gaddafi more often traveled to Paris than to Moscow, so let his beloved France
        and provides him with refuge. "

        YOU DATHER HERE TO US DESU DO NOT INHIBIT !!! angry
      2. Kite
        Kite 9 August 2012 12: 49
        +3
        Why "repost" the private opinion of not the most authoritative person? (did he claim authorship for these "brilliant" ideas?)
        And the words of the rabbi ......! Is Brzezinski mowing something under the rabbi? But, by the way ... there are many of them in the synagogues, you just substitute your ears, they hang you .....
      3. kush62
        kush62 9 August 2012 17: 44
        +1
        How "Comrade" smoothly does petty mischief under the guise of care and friendship with Russia. East is a delicate matter. He will apologize a hundred times and take in misinformation. I don’t want to think that, I don’t want to think that. Don't think so. Nobody forces. We'll figure it out ourselves somehow. In the meantime, he framed the lad from customs.
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 9 August 2012 20: 56
          -2
          Quote: kush62
          How "Comrade" smoothly does petty mischief under the guise of care and friendship with Russia.


          Judging by yourself?
  23. nycsson
    nycsson 9 August 2012 11: 26
    +3
    Good article!

    "The world today is kept only by the Soviet missiles that Russia has left (or Russian, but made on the basis of Soviet technologies). In an inertial scenario, in a maximum of ten years, the American missile defense system will paralyze this defense. Russia has no more than ten years to prepare for direct aggression against it. . "

    And this is most close to the truth! The most important thing is that our government understands this!
  24. Samovar
    Samovar 9 August 2012 11: 26
    +8
    Get ready and get ready again. If we defend Syria, we can win more time. And nefig to be afraid of these NATO with the UN - in order to become respected we must act brazenly and decisively. They banned the supply of weapons to Syria, and it’s bad for us - we help the legitimate government. If Obama almost directly expressed his support for the terrorists, then we should be shy. And terrorism, as you know, is a disease that needs force treatment.
  25. Straus_zloy
    Straus_zloy 9 August 2012 11: 56
    +1
    The likely scenario of a new world war


    http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_16246/
  26. vikruss
    vikruss 9 August 2012 12: 08
    0
    These are the fruits of dermocracy in the Russian way .. The Russian government, violating agreements with the legitimate authorities of Syria and Iran, refuses to fulfill contracts for the supply of defensive systems (which in the future will undoubtedly determine the reliability of the supplier for any potential customer) so as not, not otherwise, how to please the western dermocrators, And this is at the same time when these same Western "creatures" openly declare their support for anti-government terrorist regimes against the same countries to which Russia was supposed to supply weapons under a treaty, but suddenly a refusal ... And this is when the dermocrators of the West are not lose, supply openly and insolently everything possible except for the latest developments to the forces that are destabilizing these countries. Gentlemen, can anyone see the logic here, .. why is Russia reacting so "sluggishly"? But it cannot be called otherwise than betrayal. Unsurprisingly, the rest of the world, looking at this <activity>, is betting on Staticus ... not wanting to be next on the dermocratic field of BY_FORCE's transformation into Western democracy.
  27. vikruss
    vikruss 9 August 2012 12: 15
    0
    This is the fruit of dermocracy in the Russian way .. The Russian government, violating agreements with the legitimate authorities of Syria and Iran, refuses to fulfill contracts for the supply of defensive systems (which in the future will undoubtedly determine the supplier's <reliability factor> for any potential customer) so as not to, nothing else, how to please the Western dermocrators, And this is at a time when these same Western "creatures" openly declare their support for anti-government terrorist regimes against the same countries to which Russia was supposed to supply weapons under an agreement ... When the dermocrators of the West do not waste time, openly and insolently supply everything possible except for the latest developments to the forces destabilizing these countries. Russia is recovered under the "good" guise of a peacemaker. But Gentlemen ... there has been no smell of peace there for a long time ... We will see that all countries will find themselves at the end of <our problems>, can someone see the logic here ... why is Russia reacting so "moderately" ?. It is not surprising that the rest of the world, looking at this "activity", is betting on Shtaticus ... not wanting to be next in the dermocratic field of transformation and US national interests into Western democracy. The world looks at Russia and sees ...
  28. vikruss
    vikruss 9 August 2012 12: 21
    +1
    This is the fruits of dermokratization from Gorby, .. The Russian government, violating treaties with the legitimate power of Syria and Iran, refuses to fulfill contracts for the supply of defensive systems (which in the future will undoubtedly determine the supplier's "reliability factor" for any potential customer) so as not to otherwise, how to please the Western dermocrators, And this is at the same time when these_the same Western <creatures> openly declare their support for anti-government terrorist regimes against the same countries to which Russia was supposed to supply weapons under the treaty ... When the dermocrators of the West supply openly and insolently everything possible with the exception of the latest developments to the forces destabilizing these countries. Russia otmezhivaetsya under "good intentions" under the guise of a peacemaker. But Gentlemen ... there has been no smell of peace there for a long time ... We will wait for all countries to find themselves on the other end of <our problems>, maybe someone can see the logic here, but I personally do not know why Russia is reacting so "moderately" ?. It is not surprising that the rest of the world, looking at this "activity", is betting on Shtaticus ... not wanting to be next in the dermocratic field of transforming US national interests into a Western school of democracy. The world looks at Russia, but sees ...
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 9 August 2012 13: 48
      0
      Quote: vikruss
      The world looks at Russia, but sees ....

      You definitely plus!
  29. UAZ Patriot
    UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 12: 37
    +1
    Here is the news I saw yesterday on one site, today I met on another, but for some reason they are silent about it in the news on the Syrian channel:

    Turkish troops invaded Syria without officially declaring war. A column of Turkish military equipment with the support of military helicopters occupied the Syrian city of Jarablus.

    Satellite television channel Press-TV has confirmed information about the Turkish invasion of Syria. On August 7, Press-TV announced that units of the Turkish army, with the support of armored vehicles and combat helicopters, crossed the Syrian border and entered the city of Jarablus.

    The TV channel did not report whether the Turks met resistance.

    Previously, there was information that Turkey was concentrating large masses of troops and the Turkish-Syrian border. Officially, Turkey explained such a concentration of its troops near the borders of a peaceful independent state by exercises. In addition, the Turkish leadership has repeatedly stated that it is ready to invade the territory of independent Syria.

    Jarablus is located on the border with Turkey, about 100 kilometers northeast of Aleppo - the largest city and economic capital of Syria.
    1. Pacifist
      Pacifist 9 August 2012 13: 40
      0
      Yes, I already started a discussion of this news .... but it seems that the guys were right and this is a diza.
      1. UAZ Patriot
        UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 14: 00
        +1
        Syria’s news channel is silent, it seems that yes.
        1. UAZ Patriot
          UAZ Patriot 9 August 2012 14: 15
          +3
          Here is yesterday’s issue itself.

    2. September
      September 9 August 2012 22: 42
      0
      disa.

      Turks zassut.
  30. Forget
    Forget 9 August 2012 13: 50
    0
    when Putin was president from 2000 to 2008 (fat years), he could dramatically boost the Russian economy by investing petrodollars in industrial development, instead he preferred Kudrin’s advice and began to put all his money into the stabilization fund. I consider this a big puncture of Putin. Of course, the money of the stabilization fund helped in the crisis, but I think if the government invested money in industry, then we would not be afraid of any crisis. Is it possible to be hungry with working factories. Zyuganov repeatedly suggested that both Kudrin and Putin invest in the defense industry, aviation, and agriculture, but they had a damn ..... so
  31. strannik595
    strannik595 9 August 2012 15: 18
    +2
    Citizens of the country do not believe in the ability of their authorities to complete even a just cause. The country does not believe in its own strength. The authorities do not believe in the strength of the people and thinks more not about their approval of their actions, but about their approval by world centers of power and terror ..................I believe, I still believe ... Ossetians were able to defend in 2008 .......... there is no direct attack on us, and there is no need to send our troops and intervene in the internal conflict ........ .. it’s enough that we restrain the dogs of war and do not let them bite Assad ......... and the UN resolution is advisory in nature and does not oblige to anything ...... this is not the Security Council ..... ... Russia is doing the right thing ........... as Stolypin said, we need 20 years of life without shocks and Russia will be able to surprise the world, as it has already done more than once, and not two
  32. Forget
    Forget 9 August 2012 15: 33
    +1
    Quote: strannik595
    we need 20 years of life without shocks

    and from what year to start counting?
  33. cobra66
    cobra66 9 August 2012 16: 19
    +4
    But Muammar Kadaffi said:
    "In September 2009, Muammar Gaddafi arrived in the United States for the 64th session of the UN General Assembly. Instead of the prescribed 15 minutes, Gaddafi's speech on the rostrum of the General Assembly lasted an hour and a half. The translator, doing his job for 75 minutes, at one moment could not resist and shouted at microphone in Arabic: “I can’t take it anymore,” after which he was replaced by the head of the Arab UN Office. Stepping on the podium, Gaddafi said: “Even my son Obama said that this is a historic meeting.” In his speech, the Libyan leader sharply criticized the Council UN Security Council, calling it a “Council on Terrorism.” Holding the UN Charter in his hands, Gaddafi said that, according to this document, military force is used only by a UN decision with the consent of all member countries of the organization, specifying that during the existence of the UN “large countries fought 64 wars against small ones ”and“ the UN did nothing to prevent these wars. ”He proposed to move the UN headquarters from the Western Hemisphere to the Eastern -“ for example, to Libya ”. Muammar Gaddafi defended the Taliban's right to create an Islamic Emirate and even touched on Somali pirates:
    Somali pirates are not pirates. India, Japan, Australia, you are pirates. You fish in the territorial waters of Somalia. And Somalia is protecting its supplies, food for its children ... I saw these pirates, I talked to them.
    The leader of the Libyan revolution announced that US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair personally participated in the execution of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, demanded an investigation into the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, and offered to make Barack Obama president for life. At the end of his speech, Gaddafi said: “You are already tired. You are all asleep "and left the podium with the words" You gave birth to Hitler, not us. You were persecuting Jews. And you staged a holocaust! "]"
  34. Blackjack
    Blackjack 9 August 2012 17: 20
    +1
    Quote: Forget
    when Putin was president from 2000 to 2008 (fat years), he could dramatically boost the Russian economy by investing petrodollars in industrial development, instead he preferred Kudrin’s advice and began to put all his money into the stabilization fund.

    Could but did not. Because he can’t carry out a normal judicial reform. Where there would be an independent (from the Kremlin) court. In the absence of a normal judicial and law enforcement system, all the money would be stolen in no time. But to have an independent court for the Kremlin is to chop a branch under itself. There are doubts about the legitimacy of the Kremlin authorities.
  35. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 9 August 2012 20: 51
    0
    I don’t think that any country will consciously decide on the third world, it’s another matter that circumstances can push it ...
    1. Bazilevs
      Bazilevs 9 August 2012 22: 00
      +2
      It is always funny to listen to or read such comments, as the respected colleague ShturmKGB wrote, thinking inappropriately for others, you need to observe actions, events that show true intentions. Everything has been preparing for war for a long time, a probable enemy removes possible allies who can strike from the flanks, tactical preparation and distribution of forces for preparation for a future invasion is under way, it’s like pieces are removed in chess to checkmate the king, all possible and impossible moves and options are calculated ... so it’s time for all men to quit drinking a long time and go in for physical training, as soon it will be needed
      1. Nick
        Nick 14 August 2012 23: 07
        0
        Quote: Bazilevs
        so it’s time for all men to quit drinking a long time and go in for physical training since soon it will be needed

        Preferably on an ongoing basis ...
  36. vladimir70
    vladimir70 9 August 2012 21: 38
    -2
    From 3 to 5 years or maybe earlier in Russia we will have Libya and Syria and Yugoslavia combined ....... God forbid .....
  37. September
    September 9 August 2012 22: 32
    0
    our greats have money there, that’s how they twist assholes.
  38. 12Ural12
    12Ural12 9 August 2012 23: 28
    0
    Soon it will be necessary to declare war on illiteracy. This is the merit of the current government.