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Navalny's wife reacted to Dr. Roshal's initiative on the situation with her husband

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Relatives of the Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny react to the initiative of the famous medical specialist Leonid Roshal. The essence of the proposal of the doctor, who heads the National Medical Chamber, is to create, together with the specialists of the German Medical Chamber, a single expert group that could understand in detail the situation with a sharp deterioration in Navalny's health.


According to Leonid Roshal, who has a high level of trust in the professional medical environment, not only in Russia, but also abroad, the work of a joint expert group would make it possible to give an accurate answer as to whether or not toxicants are found in Navalny's body.

The wife's reaction to the seemingly quite sensible proposal of Dr. Roshal is very strange. According to Yulia Navalnaya, who herself admitted that she did not understand anything about medicine, Leonid Roshal "acted not as a doctor, but as the voice of the state."

From the publication of Mrs. Navalnaya with an appeal to Leonid Roshal:

You did not have, do not have and will not have anything to do with his treatment. I am not a doctor myself, but during these weeks I have read so many medical articles that it is obvious even to me: the clinical manifestations were exactly the same as described in medical textbooks.

It remains only to find out the clinical manifestations of what? If we were talking about the clinical manifestations of the use of the Novichok BOV, as they say in Berlin, then it is quite obvious that by now Ms. Navalnaya could hardly make any publications in Telegram channels ...

Doctors in Russia called Yulia Navalnaya's reaction "incomprehensible and unconstructive." Indeed, why do the relatives of the oppositionist themselves actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation involving both Russian and German specialists?
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  1. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 6 September 2020 18: 24 New
    +3
    why the relatives of the oppositionist themselves actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation
    Rumor has it that Navalny's carcass disappeared from the fumble, i.e. he has already left him, only they do not specify alive not alive.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 September 2020 18: 28 New
      12
      While Navalny is resting in a glass sarcophagus ... there is still a long fight with Putin ahead ... the series Novice, Navalny and Mr. Pu promises to be long.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 6 September 2020 18: 40 New
        +3
        Quote: Trapp1st
        why the relatives of the oppositionist themselves actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation
        Rumor has it that Navalny's carcass disappeared from the fumble, i.e. he has already left him, only they do not specify alive not alive.

        Journalists and analyst experts say that Navalny's "carcass" did not arrive at the Charite clinic at all and that the secret services played Chancellor Merkel simply in the dark. Namely.

        See details from. 36:00 min, from 44:00 min. - "Where is Navalny hiding? | Belarusian paranoia on a lie detector | Sosnovsky Wall • Live: Sep 3, 2020"
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 6 September 2020 20: 20 New
          -30
          Journalists and analyst experts say that Navalny's "carcass" did not arrive at the Charite clinic at all and that the secret services played Chancellor Merkel simply in the dark. Namely.

          Tatyana, I'm not a supporter of Navalny and all that I liked with him was his investigation and some kind of naivety .. just childish, as it seemed to me .. But to call him a carcass is not right .. for Russia, he did more good, rather than bad .. this is my opinion ..
          Opinions are different .. there are and such ..
          And I am more of a supporter of this version. hi
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 6 September 2020 20: 27 New
            +6
            I just played along with Trapp1st's sarcasmwho wrote:
            Quote: Trapp1st
            They talk Navalny's carcass disappeared from fumble, i.e. he has already left him, only they do not specify alive not alive.

            I have it, too, this is sarcasm, if you do not understand. Namely.

            Navalny can be said about the main character from the novel "Gloomy River":
            "He has a good beginning, an ebullient middle, and a terrible end!"
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 6 September 2020 21: 32 New
              +2
              Tatyana!
              But in the case of Navalny, the topic
              Looking woman
              can be unexpectedly productive.
              What his wife says and does is vaguely suspicious.
              Doctors in Russia called Yulia Navalnaya's reaction "incomprehensible and unconstructive."

              I'll express myself very carefully: she behaves as if she is no longer going to be treated in Russia ...
              1. New
                New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 35 New
                +1
                Quote: Alex777
                as if Russia is no longer going to be treated ...

                Those who have money in Russia are not treated. Where is it treated and by whom? 4 the presidential administration will not serve us
                1. Alex DHG
                  Alex DHG 7 September 2020 08: 56 New
                  +1
                  You, dear, may not be served for any reason. And my partner was well served: in the district central hospital they wanted to saw off his leg, but in one of the Moscow clinics they cured him. And it's completely free.
              2. Hagen
                Hagen 7 September 2020 13: 15 New
                +2
                Quote: Alex777
                she behaves as if she is no longer going to be treated in Russia ...

                I think that she behaves so as not to prevent the Germans (or whoever is behind their backs) from playing this comedy as long as possible, because her and his (Navalny's) participation in it is a well-paid role. They will not do anything else. And she will come to be treated where the money earned by scandals will allow. And it is not at all a fact that it is not in Russia. There are such a dime a dozen of them, who shout at all intersections that Russia sucks and other derogatory epithets, many, even haters of Russia who have gone abroad, periodically come to Russia and are treated under the insurance policies of their relatives. Their conscience allows them. As for Navalny's investigations, going deeper into them, in 9 cases out of 10 these investigations represent an elementary fake, superficial information. Sometimes he was sued and sued for damages. he. And his admirers strive to be like him in filth.
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 7 September 2020 20: 07 New
                  +1
                  Hagen, 13.15
                  Navalny's wife behaves like Navalny. And Navalny is a participant in a provocation against Russia. Julia is an accomplice, whose task is in no way to allow the truth to be clarified. So, her position on the Roshal proposal is not at all strange, but logical.
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen 7 September 2020 21: 27 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    Navalny's wife behaves like Navalny

                    I totally agree. Moreover, I think that concern for his health in this case is secondary.
          2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 September 2020 22: 00 New
            +8
            Quote: Svarog
            for Russia, he did more good than bad

            He discredited any intelligible protest of the population that had real grounds, thereby helping to crush the people's attempt to defend their rights in very specific moments. And he spoke for vague, vague, intangible moments - for all good, against all bad. From such movements to the people there is round zero, only buns from employers for him.
            What are his attempts to crawl out into the head of the anti-renovation movement, when everyone sent him in plain text to the forest alone? He clearly played along with Sobyanin, trying to discredit popular movements. He also played along with Sobyanin in the municipal elections, openly interfering with his own "like-minded people."
            This is an ordinary political figure with low social responsibility, harming his fellow citizens for the sake of goodies. Moreover, these buns could be delivered to him both from foreign bakeries, and their quite local ones.
          3. Cottodraton
            Cottodraton 7 September 2020 05: 18 New
            +6
            Fortunately, he did nothing for Russia. This is Yeltsin-2. Such a priori can not do anything good. A petty thief, rushing to the trough ... A venal skin that played with its curators so much that the latter decided to use it as a torpedo, because there was absolutely zero sense from it. Bobik went out, but millions were spent on him, judging by the accounts of the fbk. And the curators of the Western special services are zealous people.
            All that happened did not surprise me personally. I've been expecting this for a long time. I am only surprised by the laziness of the Western intelligence services. Again "newbie" ... So their hamsters may begin to doubt. And the Western media are putting on an "owl on the globe". Their reports remind me more and more of Soviet propaganda campaigns in the "hands off Vietnam" style ...
            In general, what happened is a good example of the fact that no one likes traitors. This is the third kind of people ...
            You will live "tasty, rich, bright and fun" ... but not for long. An instructive example for liberals, libertarians and other wry-handed parasites that happens when you lie under the West
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 42 New
          +7
          Journalists and analytic experts say that Navalny's "carcass" did not arrive at the Charite clinic at all and that the secret services played Chancellor Merkel into the dark. And the names
          everyone forgot something about a lady from Britain with a Ukrainian surname, who accompanied Lesha at the airport.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 6 September 2020 20: 45 New
            0
            Quote: Balu
            everyone forgot something about a lady from Britain with a Ukrainian surname, who accompanied Lesha at the airport.

            Correct remark! Indeed it was. I support!
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 47 New
              +5
              Quote: Tatiana
              Quote: Balu
              everyone forgot something about a lady from Britain with a Ukrainian surname, who accompanied Lesha at the airport.

              Correct remark! Indeed it was.

              and it is also known about this madam that she works in the media on an anti-Russian topic and is associated with special services. So Lesha is the same legendary scapegoat. I forgot this legend in detail. Maybe someone will remind wink
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 7 September 2020 00: 58 New
                -1
                and it is also known about this madam that she works in the media on an anti-Russian topic and is connected with the special services.

                And Navalny's wife could be jealous ... bully
        3. vic02
          vic02 8 September 2020 10: 18 New
          0
          special services played Chancellor Merkel just in the dark
          In my opinion, someone has too irrepressible imagination. Then, in fact, it was not Merkel that was played, but Putin. And then they did not play, but "lit".
      2. figwam
        figwam 6 September 2020 18: 49 New
        26
        the oppositionist's relatives actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation involving both Russian and German experts?

        Because the political decision has already been made, the West does not need any investigations, Skripals, Boeing, Navalny are all one global topic against Russia and there will be more.
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 6 September 2020 19: 42 New
          +2
          I have a suspicion ... Navalny will be healed in Germany. Death.

          I wish him good health and a way out of the artificial coma where the German doctors introduced him.
          1. seregatara1969
            seregatara1969 6 September 2020 19: 59 New
            14
            Navalny is needed by the sent, it's more convenient
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 6 September 2020 20: 24 New
        -2
        there is a battle of the Kremlin towers and there is a battle of different Kremlin basements
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 6 September 2020 21: 50 New
          0
          And there is a struggle of the cerebral hemispheres in your head.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 6 September 2020 22: 15 New
            +2
            calm down, save your strength for the feat of saving democracy
      4. stalki
        stalki 6 September 2020 20: 51 New
        0
        While Navalny is resting in a glass sarcophagus ... there is still a long fight with Putin ahead ... the series Novice, Navalny and Mr. Pu promises to be long.
        Fighting Putin? TV series? Yes, this is a played card, an oval one, except for the same imperfections as he does not take seriously, the card was already beaten before the start of the game. Cheap show.
      5. Stalllker
        Stalllker 7 September 2020 02: 08 New
        0
        Oval Fighter ?! I beg of you
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 September 2020 18: 32 New
      +7
      Alas, I can only say one thing - everything has a price. It's sad that even related feelings.
      Knowing a number of people from our "systemic opposition" personally, I would not be surprised that they could. I hope I am wrong in my assumptions.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 6 September 2020 18: 54 New
        +2
        In the meantime, from Berlin: "Newbie To the old man, zpt, the introduction was successful. I am in a coma, zpt, I am starting to complete the task pt." yes
        1. Harry cuper
          Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 14 New
          -10
          very stupid comment
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 6 September 2020 19: 16 New
            13
            Quote: Harry Cuper
            very stupid comment

            As well as a very stupid statement - the poisoning of Navalny by Putin! yes
            1. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 6 September 2020 19: 34 New
              +4
              Are there chemists among the commentators? That's what I don't understand. In samples made in Russia, 2-ethylhexyldiphenyl phosphate EGDFP was found). It is explained that this substance is used as a plasticizer in the manufacture of plastic cups. It is surprising that this substance was found in blood, urine and even in Navalny's hair. I don’t believe that a person holding a plastic cup will receive a dose of EGDFP sufficient for this substance to penetrate into the hair. No regulatory organization will allow such technology to pass. The suspicion immediately arises, and suddenly EGDFF is a metabolite of the "novice". Looked through the available formulas for "novice" poisons, none of which contain a phenyl group. Means NOT a metabolite. Then where did it come from ?.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 6 September 2020 20: 07 New
                +4
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                Then where did it come from ?.

                false trail
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 40 New
                +4
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                Are there chemists among the commentators? That's what I don't understand. In samples made in Russia, 2-ethylhexyldiphenyl phosphate EGDFP was found). It is explained that this substance is used as a plasticizer in the manufacture of plastic cups. It is surprising that this substance was found in blood, urine and even in Navalny's hair. I don’t believe that a person holding a plastic cup will receive a dose of EGDFP sufficient for this substance to penetrate into the hair. No regulatory organization will allow such technology to pass. The suspicion immediately arises, and suddenly EGDFF is a metabolite of the "novice". Looked through the available formulas for "novice" poisons, none of which contain a phenyl group. Means NOT a metabolite. Then where did it come from ?.

                Couldn't it be some kind of Chinese synthetic nonsense? They're masters at changing formulas
                1. mikh-korsakov
                  mikh-korsakov 6 September 2020 21: 30 New
                  +7
                  Baloo! here you can assume anything, but I would like to push off from something. From my own experience, I have great respect for German chemists. Sometimes, there was a problem, nothing works, you go to the library, read the old works of a century ago. And you understand what you screwed up. Therefore, I do not believe that chemists were inadvertently mistaken. But I readily believe that they conducted a study in the field of "political chemistry", I remember examples.
              3. Thunderbringer
                Thunderbringer 6 September 2020 21: 51 New
                -4
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                Then where did it come from ?.

                I had a snack with glasses.
              4. Servisinzhener
                Servisinzhener 6 September 2020 22: 08 New
                +9
                There is, however, 13 years since he left the big chemistry. And my specialization is in general and inorganic chemistry. And here a person with deep knowledge in organic or analytical chemistry would be more suitable.
                But here's what I want to say. It is not said what concentration of EGDFP was found. And this is very important. Because modern analytical methods allow the determination of very low concentrations. In a person who spends a lot of time on trips and constantly uses plastic dishes, this substance may well be in the hair. But for example, in a concentration ten thousand times lower than the maximum allowable.
                All of the above also applies to statements from Germany. There, too, it is not said what kind of substance, indicating the poisoning by "Novichok", they found and in what concentration. An expert opinion was not shown in which it should be written that such a substance was found, in such a concentration, using such a technique. And of course who is the person who performed the analysis.
                1. Nitochkin
                  Nitochkin 7 September 2020 03: 57 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Servisinzhener
                  There is, however, 13 years since he left the big chemistry. And my specialization is in general and inorganic chemistry. And here a person with deep knowledge in organic or analytical chemistry would be more suitable.
                  But here's what I want to say. It is not said what concentration of EGDFP was found. And this is very important. Because modern analytical methods allow the determination of very low concentrations. In a person who spends a lot of time on trips and constantly uses plastic dishes, this substance may well be in the hair. But for example, in a concentration ten thousand times lower than the maximum allowable.
                  All of the above also applies to statements from Germany. There, too, it is not said what kind of substance, indicating the poisoning by "Novichok", they found and in what concentration. An expert opinion was not shown in which it should be written that such a substance was found, in such a concentration, using such a technique. And of course who is the person who performed the analysis.


                  If Xisyan drank yad in the form of moonshine from such a glass the day before, then it was taken from the glass, because the plastic from which such glasses are made does not hold alcohol and begins to release chemistry. Drinking strong alcohol from such glasses is categorically not recommended.
                  1. mikh-korsakov
                    mikh-korsakov 7 September 2020 08: 41 New
                    -2
                    Nitochkin! Has Navalny really stooped to drinking moonshine from a plastic cup, and not from a crystal cup? Where was your wife and / or girlfriend? Not to say "Fi, Lyosha, how can you, like, you're a giant of thought and the father of Russian democracy." They themselves have become stale. By the way, with an uncontrollable flight of fantasy, this substance can be passed off as a metabolite from a compound of the "novice" type. They say, they argue the insidious Russians, they caught the hand with the Skripals. So, in order to get away from the shame of the world community, they dodged and came up with a formula containing phenyl groups. Next is the familiar whine of "sanctions, sanctions" ..
                2. mikh-korsakov
                  mikh-korsakov 7 September 2020 08: 25 New
                  -1
                  Andrei! I thought about your assumption and something does not add up in my head. First, the name EGDFP (2-ethylhexyldiphenyl phosphate) was taken from open sources. If it is phosphate, it means an ester. I further quote "The most detrimental effect of 2-ethylhexyldiphenyl phosphate is on the central nervous, cardiovascular and respiratory systems, gastrointestinal tract, kidneys and liver. It is able to penetrate the body not only with food or by inhalation, but also through the skin. "
                  According to the parameters of acute toxicity, the compound is classified as a low-hazard substance and has a 4th hazard class. In case of contact, it is recommended to observe safety measures: monitor the ventilation of the room, use personal protective equipment and special clothing.

                  Then it is not clear to me why the screams of the "greens" are not heard on the topic "It's only in a bloody mordor ..." Nope, I don't understand.
                  1. Servisinzhener
                    Servisinzhener 7 September 2020 12: 49 New
                    0
                    As far as I remember, the 4th hazard class is the lowest. And in order to be poisoned with such a substance, you need to use a fair amount.
              5. Terenin
                Terenin 6 September 2020 22: 34 New
                0
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                Then where did it come from ?.

                Based on the calculation of lost profits from the sale of shale oil yes
                1. Victorio
                  Victorio 7 September 2020 10: 49 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Terenin
                  Quote: mikh-korsakov
                  Then where did it come from ?.

                  Based on the calculation of lost profits from the sale of shale oil yes

                  ===
                  the most accurate answer
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              1. KJIETyc
                KJIETyc 6 September 2020 20: 39 New
                +9
                Answer, my young friend, one question: Why?
              2. mikh-korsakov
                mikh-korsakov 6 September 2020 20: 47 New
                10
                Harry Cuper! Excesses are possible under any government, this is obvious to any person, even with relaxed convolutions. I consider it beneath my dignity to list terrorist acts in all, even the most handshake regimes. You, sir, a provocateur, or even worse ... a man with brains turned inside out of Western unbridled propaganda. our Russian propaganda is a beacon of peace throughout the world. In other words, we are enemies.
                1. Thunderbringer
                  Thunderbringer 6 September 2020 21: 52 New
                  +2
                  This "sir" is just a juvenile D. This is clearly seen in his manner of expressing himself.
              3. Terenin
                Terenin 6 September 2020 22: 51 New
                +2
                Quote: Harry Cuper
                Stretch your minds to understand such a simple thing

                Well, here I strained my twist and how it dawned belay that
                Quote: Harry Cuper
                Of course, VVP personally did not add poison.

                Then I strained it again and realized
                Quote: Harry Cuper
                with his personal participation today in Russia it is possible
                those. he, VVP, is necessarily personally present when someone in Russia is being bullied and sits in the passenger seat when the driver of a drug addict and a drunkard kills someone in an accident.
                Well, what not
                Quote: Harry Cuper
                Another silly comment.
              4. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor 7 September 2020 01: 11 New
                0
                Maybe some sane opponent could have been, only this jester is a complete zero, he only substitutes the "opposition" and shames it in favor of Putin.
      2. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 6 September 2020 18: 59 New
        -19
        Vladislav, do you really think that Navalny didn't eat the rafaelka in time?
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 6 September 2020 19: 03 New
          +8
          Shame on Western Democracy: The Practice of the Presumption of Guilt.
          1. Harry cuper
            Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 13 New
            -19
            it is indecent to doubt when completely sure laughing
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 6 September 2020 19: 20 New
              +4
              highly likly
              1. Harry cuper
                Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 35 New
                -20
                Well why laughing Merkel was quite definite. She has no doubts
                1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  Nikolay Ivanov_5 6 September 2020 19: 38 New
                  +1
                  Or maybe Merkel, under pressure from the military-political NATO bloc, is forced to introduce new sanctions for far-fetched reasons. request
                  1. Campanella
                    Campanella 6 September 2020 20: 51 New
                    +2
                    This is called being delighted ...
        2. Campanella
          Campanella 6 September 2020 19: 33 New
          +7
          Why, the Anglo-Saxons could not give him this Raphaelka? Or is it only Putin who treats everyone to them?
          What kind of childish naivety?
          Russia, that is, Putin proposes to investigate all this and the West is leaving!
          I believe that this is a terrorist attack on the territory of Russia or a provocation, when already on the territory of Germany the Novice was poured into his pants, a bottle and something else.
          Let the ghouls prove that it was not they who shook it from the test tubes there!
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            1. Campanella
              Campanella 6 September 2020 20: 47 New
              +4
              You are a clairvoyant, why are you hanging around here with such talent? Junkie?
              They pay you 11.80)))
              And we are for the love of art!
              1. Thunderbringer
                Thunderbringer 6 September 2020 21: 54 New
                -2
                That is, you shit profusely at the behest of your soul, sincerely?
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 6 September 2020 22: 27 New
                  +2
                  Oh, support? Is it hard for bots alone?
        3. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 September 2020 19: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Harry Cuper
          Vladislav, do you really think that Navalny didn't eat the rafaelka in time?

          The question is, who offered him this "Rafaelka"? Apparently all the "plane" through an enema !!! laughing
          Wow, what an enema !!!
      3. depressant
        depressant 6 September 2020 20: 44 New
        15
        I watched the video alone of how the FBK employee Ilya Pakhomov brought tea to Navalny? I remember that in hot pursuit, Pakhomov was named Navalny's assistant. For example, Pakhomov poisoned him on the instructions of people from the place of his previous work - FBK.
        Let's say.
        Based on the cynicism of the money stratum of people, this is possible. However, Navalny, poisoned as a result of a financial showdown, is not the Navalny that the West needs.
        The West needs Navalny, poisoned by Putin. And if there is no such thing, then it must be created.
        So they will create it? Undoubtedly.
        The victim came into his own hands. Rather, out of stupidity, it was presented to the West by the victim's wife as a gift. And this very wife, suddenly realizing that her husband's turning into a vegetable or a corpse is probably already happening and it is impossible to avoid the real poisoning of the faithful by the Western intelligence services, she began to go into Putin's accusations supporting the West's version, bargaining for herself from this part of the world at least a little bit of political weight and, accordingly, cash support in case of existence in the role of a bitter widow.

        If Navalny survives, it will be possible to blame anyone for his illness, including, to a greater extent, himself. If he dies, then only the wife will be to blame.
        Nefig was to take her husband to Germany. She believed that in Russia he was doomed. Not realizing that he is much more doomed in the West.
        1. Vlad Pervovich
          Vlad Pervovich 7 September 2020 01: 58 New
          0
          2depressant ... well said lol
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    4. Russian Bear_2
      Russian Bear_2 6 September 2020 19: 20 New
      +1
      It is quite possible that Lesha has already been buried.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy 6 September 2020 19: 45 New
        0
        They did the right thing by sending them to Germany. Now this is Merkel's headache, let him try to get out of this situation as a winner. And as they say, a woman with a cart is easier for us. hi
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: Russian Bear_2
        It is quite possible that Lesha has already been buried.

        Lesha is not real or is it not real?
      3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 September 2020 22: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Russian Bear_2
        It is possible that Lesha has already been buried

        Plane crash.
        The plane crashed onto an uninhabited island.
        Two pilots and a flight attendant survived.

        A month later, a stewardess with the words: "It's time to stop this debauchery!" - shot herself.

        A month later, the pilots said: "It's time to stop this debauchery!" - and buried the stewardess.

        Another month passed and the pilots said: "It's time to stop this debauchery!" - they dug up the stewardess.
      4. Nadrub
        Nadrub 6 September 2020 23: 05 New
        -1
        Rather, they burned like a poor cat Skripal: (otherwise it will suddenly recover
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: Trapp1st
      why the relatives of the oppositionist themselves actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation
      Rumor has it that Navalny's carcass disappeared from the fumble, i.e. he has already left him, only they do not specify alive not alive.

      pervach was singed, and as a beginner, he fell into a coma. And by the way, Litvinenko, poisoned with cadmium salts or other rat poison, was shown right away. And where is navralny, why not show? belay
    6. Finches
      Finches 6 September 2020 20: 21 New
      +2
      Husband and wife, one of Satan! A liberal husband and a liberal wife is the apotheosis of Satan!
  2. andr327
    andr327 6 September 2020 18: 29 New
    +1
    constructively, not constructively, but you need to get a fee for the performance, and so according to Stanislavsky "I don’t believe!" and money cuckoo.
  3. loki565
    loki565 6 September 2020 18: 30 New
    16
    Omsk doctors saved him, but she didn't like it)))
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 6 September 2020 18: 40 New
      15
      Quote: loki565
      Omsk doctors saved him, but she didn't like it)))

      Well ... the lady has already ordered a mourning outfit for herself, flowers, a commemoration in a restaurant, and then such a bummer - they saved! She has only one hope for Germany left. Maybe they will kill you, and absolutely democratically, my husband will like it.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 6 September 2020 21: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Well ... the lady has already ordered a mourning outfit for herself, flowers, a commemoration in a restaurant, and then such a bummer - they saved!

        I remember Rosenbaum had in one of the songs: "Well, gentlemen, fill the box. For everything has already been paid for a long time!" Y. Shevchuk has a similar story about the death of the poet. laughing
        1. bycharashkO
          bycharashkO 7 September 2020 08: 54 New
          0
          Quote: Captain45
          "Well, gentlemen, fill the box. For everything has already been paid for a long time!"

          it was at Novikov A.
    2. Just Alexander
      Just Alexander 6 September 2020 18: 42 New
      -17
      Did they save him? From what?
      1. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 7 September 2020 05: 29 New
        0
        From your stupidity probably
    3. New
      New Year day 6 September 2020 18: 47 New
      -26
      Quote: loki565
      Omsk doctors saved him, but she didn't like it

      do not distort. When Omsk doctors began to change the diagnosis 3 times a day, she realized that there was a dead end. By the way, the chief toxicologist there is sure that the reason is metabolic disorders. Are you ready to be treated by such a doctor?
      Each hospital has its own ceiling of possibilities. The ceiling of Omsk's capabilities is incomparable with the German and even Moscow ones. Until there is no need, no one notices
      1. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 6 September 2020 18: 58 New
        +3
        The Omsk ambulance immediately administered atropine to Navalny at the pre-hospital stage. That is, the version with Rafaelka was not considered by that unknown doctor. Perhaps Navalny is alive thanks to him.
        1. New
          New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 01 New
          -16
          Quote: Harry Cuper
          The Omsk ambulance immediately administered atropine to Navalny at the pre-hospital stage.

          a simple medical question: why atropine? So you took it and guessed it? Communicating daily with the Moscow ambulance, I am surprised at the diagnostic genius of Omsk
          1. Harry cuper
            Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 16 New
            +4
            a simple medical question: why atropine?
            apparently lucky - I got a competent doctor. This happens sometimes in the provinces.
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Harry Cuper
            The Omsk ambulance immediately administered atropine to Navalny at the pre-hospital stage.

            a simple medical question: why atropine? So you took it and guessed it? Communicating daily with the Moscow ambulance, I am surprised at the diagnostic genius of Omsk

            refresh your memory with a civil defense textbook or a toxicology textbook for medical schools
            1. New
              New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 42 New
              -2
              Quote: Balu
              refresh your memory with a civil defense textbook or a toxicology textbook for medical schools

              You will ask your ambulance for differential diagnosis of coma and first aid on the asphalt. I hope they will answer you with dignity laughing
              I recommend you refresh your brain for emergencies.
      2. Shahno
        Shahno 6 September 2020 18: 58 New
        -8
        Yes. I think this is the main reason for the transfer of the patient to Germany .. Or rather, a couple of reasons.
      3. Victor Chernenko
        Victor Chernenko 6 September 2020 19: 01 New
        +3
        Do not make me laugh.
      4. WIKI
        WIKI 6 September 2020 20: 06 New
        -9
        There are many different versions, only I will assume this version of what happened. Doctors in this situation were simply obliged to save him. Revive the dead. This was the only option to remove traces of OM from the body, if any.
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 7 September 2020 05: 32 New
          +1
          And the doctors, of course, knew about the newbie! There is a detector on it in every hospital! Everyone knows it!
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 7 September 2020 07: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Cottodraton
            For example, this is an answer from Andrey Voln, head of the clinic for traumatology, orthopedics and spinal surgery at the Ilyinsky hospital
            "The National Medical Chamber, represented by Dr. Roshal, turned to German doctors with a proposal to create a joint expert commission to understand what happened to Alexei Navalny.
            I have a simpler proposal for Roshal. It's much easier to understand the processes. What do you need:
            1. To find out on the basis of what clinical data the doctor (paramedic) of the ambulance of Omsk diagnosed exogenous intoxication and brought the patient to the toxicological intensive care unit. Not in cardio. Not in vascular resuscitation. Namely in toxicology. Find out in detail and accurately. This is not difficult.
            2. Find out on the basis of what clinical manifestations the doctor (paramedic) of the ambulance administered atropine to the patient. This is important for diagnosis too.
            3. Request a copy of the patient's medical record A.A. Navalny. (in agreement with relatives) from the BSMP Omsk. Find out what kind of therapy the patient received and what diagnosis was made.
            4. Find out in the Ministry of Health why it was the neurophysiologist and the resuscitator who were sent to Omsk. Not a toxicologist. Let me remind you that in the BSMP Navalny A.A. was under the control of resuscitators. And toxicologists. Why did they need a resuscitator from Moscow, and not a toxicologist or both combined?
            Was the resuscitator really sent to Omsk just to "broadcast the situation." So Doctor Teplykh writes in his FB. What does it mean?
            5. To interview in detail the Moscow resuscitator who from the capital's toxicologists took part remotely in the council. In his responses to Meduza, the doctor writes that these were some toxicologists from the Moscow Medical Center of Forensic Medicine. Does the doctor know that toxicologists - clinicians do not work in forensic medicine centers? Does Doctor Teplykh know that only toxicologists-chemists, experts, and not specialists in the treatment of poisoning work there? There are simply no clinicians on the staff. Or does he deliberately mix concepts? Why does he say that the main thing for a toxicologist is the identification of the poison? Yes. It is very important. But, not all poisons are not always identified. Therefore, for the clinician-toxicologist, everything is important - anamnesis, clinic, information from ambulance colleagues and, only then, laboratory data. With whom "all night" was Doctor Teplykh "in touch"? With clinical toxicologists, what do the clinic know and know how to treat poisoning? Or just the lab chemists?
            6. The doctor says that the patient was injected with atropine. In what doses? The fact is that the doses of atropine, as an antidote, are tens, or even hundreds of times higher than the "usual" doses of atropine, which are often used when accompanied by mechanical ventilation. Was atropine used as an antidote? If so, was the diagnosis of poisoning made? If it is “simple” to accompany mechanical ventilation, then why talk about it?
      5. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 6 September 2020 20: 10 New
        -4
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: loki565
        Omsk doctors saved him, but she didn't like it

        do not distort. When Omsk doctors began to change the diagnosis 3 times a day, she realized that there was a dead end. By the way, the chief toxicologist there is sure that the reason is metabolic disorders. Are you ready to be treated by such a doctor?
        Each hospital has its own ceiling of possibilities. The ceiling of Omsk's capabilities is incomparable with the German and even Moscow ones. Until there is no need, no one notices

        Metabolic disorder is not a diagnosis, but a bunch in a puddle
  4. Masha
    Masha 6 September 2020 18: 31 New
    +7
    "Incomprehensible unconstructive".

    Everything is clear and all the more constructive ... she earns money ... or has already earned ... but think how much she would have gotten away if it had been kabzdoh ...
    1. Harry cuper
      Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 17 New
      -22
      Why, Masha, equal everyone?
      1. Masha
        Masha 6 September 2020 19: 50 New
        +4
        And you don't need to translate arrows at me ... I'm not a popular person ... repeat
        And her position raises questions ...
      2. Revival
        Revival 6 September 2020 21: 34 New
        -6
        Well, at least we know that for waving this is a constructive normal approach in the family
      3. Mishanya 74
        Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 03: 58 New
        -2
        Masha at work, 11-80 for comment, don't scold Masha ..
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 7 September 2020 05: 34 New
          +2
          If you’re talking about work, then you would be silent ... these your reservations according to Freud ...
  5. The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 18: 32 New
    -17
    I wonder why Roshal himself needs it?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 September 2020 18: 41 New
      +8
      What, THIS? Specify the definition more precisely.
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 18: 45 New
        -17
        Have you read the news? Roshal wants to create a "unified expert group".
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 6 September 2020 19: 21 New
          +6
          What's wrong? It is normal practice when there are contradictions.
          Ours will no longer treat him, and it will not be superfluous to figure it out ...
          Of course, these are political "dances - mantsy", but the expert group cannot bring harm to anyone.
          I immediately expressed my opinion, it was necessary to treat with us !!! But politicians no longer know how to do anything in a normal way, they only breed dregs.
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 19: 26 New
            -14
            Quote: rocket757
            Ours will no longer treat him, and it will not be superfluous to figure it out ...


            And how will they "figure it out" if they don't treat him?

            Quote: rocket757
            the expert group cannot bring harm to anyone.


            A joint group on, for example, cross-stitching will not bring harm either. What is the use of a "joint expert group"?

            Quote: rocket757
            I immediately expressed my opinion, it was necessary to treat with us !!!


            If you are not a relative of Navalny, your opinion about this is not important to anyone.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 6 September 2020 20: 06 New
              +2
              The dispute does not make sense, they got into guano, now there will be a lot of stench ... but that doesn't matter either, it's not forever ... until next time.
    2. New
      New Year day 6 September 2020 18: 43 New
      -36
      Quote: Eye of the Crying
      I wonder why Roshal himself needs it?

      the court life-doctor tries for the owner. Unfortunately, his fascination with politics had a bad effect on him. I saw and listened to him personally more than once
      1. Revival
        Revival 6 September 2020 21: 38 New
        -1
        I had enough of his speech about how in 19, at the meeting, they found out a terrible state in medicine, and how he lamented about the coronavirus, that he kept silent about it, hid it from society.
        So he knows when to say, and when and "in principle" to remain silent ...
        This is how the former authority is wasted
    3. Armored beast
      Armored beast 6 September 2020 18: 43 New
      +9
      The honor of Russian medicine is hurt. And in general, it's a shame for the power.
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 18: 52 New
        +5
        Quote: Armored Beast
        The honor of Russian medicine is hurt.


        How is the honor of _medicine_ hurt? He was saved. What are the claims to medicine? The fact that his relatives did not want to continue his treatment in Russia is their business.
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 7 September 2020 05: 36 New
          0
          Such that Liebersnia and foreign media pour feces on them. Despite being saved
      2. New
        New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 04 New
        -17
        Quote: Armored Beast
        The honor of Russian medicine is hurt

        laughing what an honor! They destroyed medicine, and now they remembered the honor
        1. Armored beast
          Armored beast 6 September 2020 19: 08 New
          -4
          To the doctor, heal yourself. ©
        2. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 6 September 2020 21: 43 New
          +1
          To you to Roshal, as to the moon on foot, you don't even stand his little finger, you sit here, blowing your cheeks
          1. New
            New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 46 New
            -2
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            To you to Roshal, as to the moon on foot, you don't even stand his little finger, you sit here, blowing your cheeks

            Everyone does their own thing. Provincial subservience to the authorities is a sin. Let him put things in order in his institute, read the reviews of the guardian
            1. Cottodraton
              Cottodraton 7 September 2020 05: 37 New
              0
              You, too, should take care of yourself or something ... Otherwise, everyone owes you, and you do nothing to anyone ...
          2. New
            New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 23 New
            -5
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            you're not worth his little finger

            How much I am worth my boss knows, the chief surgeon of the RF Ministry of Defense. It's not for you to judge, read books. Idols themselves pozdavat and now face carrion in the asphalt. Forgotten commandment - do not make yourself an idol
    4. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 03: 58 New
      0
      I don’t need it myself .. Asked, how can you refuse
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  6. Alien From
    Alien From 6 September 2020 18: 33 New
    +2
    All this is a consequence of the loyalty of the state to such subjects as Navalny ... am
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 September 2020 18: 39 New
      +2
      Like, don't do good, won't you be guilty?
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 6 September 2020 18: 45 New
        +3
        More like: a little belt was given in childhood ....)
  7. ddmitrij
    ddmitrij 6 September 2020 18: 37 New
    +5
    And she does not need an objective investigation, since the truth may be revealed.
    1. Revival
      Revival 6 September 2020 21: 40 New
      0
      Many people do not need objective investigations
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 6 September 2020 18: 38 New
    0
    It remains only to find out the clinical manifestations of what?

    With her, everything is clear, clinical manifestations on the face.
    The main thing is, what clinical manifestations will the German authorities show ???
    Earlier there were more appearances of common sense, but now the question is, what will manifest ???
    We'll see.
  9. withoutreverse
    withoutreverse 6 September 2020 18: 38 New
    10
    what a disgusting face ... it's your bulk!
    1. Harry cuper
      Harry cuper 6 September 2020 18: 54 New
      -8
      You haven't seen Sechin laughing
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 8 September 2020 08: 57 New
        0
        It is that there is such an oppositionist Piontkovsky, who has a physiognomy ... Although you should not judge people by their appearance.
  10. Odysseus
    Odysseus 6 September 2020 18: 40 New
    -6
    Reacted poorly. In general, Roshal's initiative is the first meaningful action by the Russian authorities in this matter. Before that, there was some kind of fierce trash with versions about "moonshine", diabetes and diet. Which only worsened the situation for the "Lake cooperative".
    In fact, immediately after Navalny arrived in Germany, the embassy should have require the presence of Russian doctors and constantly come to Navalny at the hospital. And this is exactly what the official authorities of the Russian Federation should have done, and not "Doctor Roshal".
    This is a citizen of Russia, his life is in danger. And the authorities of the Russian Federation have the right and are obliged to demand their presence.
    Finally it came, albeit crooked and pathetic through Roshal, but it did. And immediately the position of Navalny's wife began to look dubious.
    If you want the truth so much, why not create a joint investigation team?
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 18: 50 New
      -18
      Quote: Odyssey
      If you want the truth so much, why not create a joint investigation team?


      Do you need a joint expert group to find out the truth? What is its role in general - "experts" will not be allowed to treat Navalny, Russian doctors have Navalny's tests, they were taken in Omsk. What's the point of being "together"?
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 6 September 2020 18: 56 New
        -3
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        Quote: Odyssey
        If you want the truth so much, why not create a joint investigation team?


        Do you need a joint expert group to find out the truth? What is its role in general - "experts" will not be allowed to treat Navalny, Russian doctors have Navalny's tests, they were taken in Omsk. What's the point of being "together"?

        I need it. But this level of trust does not make sense ...
      2. New
        New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        do you need a joint expert group?

        Based on which legal document? laughing
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 23: 56 New
          0
          I don't even understand why it is needed. If they want to investigate Navalny's analyzes, they were taken in Omsk. Alternatively, I think the Germans will not refuse.
          1. New
            New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 18 New
            -5
            Quote: Eye of the Crying
            If they want to investigate Navalny's analyzes, they were taken in Omsk

            They took, but their diagnostic value is at the level of a rural district hospital laughing
            When faced with serious equipment, they crap, they did not expect the Germans to have one
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 7 September 2020 00: 22 New
              -1
              I mean - they were recruited, so to speak, for the future, for further analysis. Equipment can be bought or found. And present an alternative report, if this is the goal.
              1. New
                New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 25 New
                -2
                Quote: Eye of the Crying
                Equipment can be bought or found

                What shishi? And all for the sake of Navalny?
                1. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 7 September 2020 00: 28 New
                  +1
                  If I understand Roshal's connection correctly, the political leadership has taken up the issue, and they will find the money. Not for Navalny's sake, but to try to clean up.
                  1. New
                    New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 34 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Eye of the Crying
                    If I understand Roshal's connection correctly, the political leadership has taken up the issue.

                    Exactly
                    Quote: Eye of the Crying
                    to try to wash it off.

                    Too late to rush. Our degradants did not know about the existence of equipment with such a resolution. When they fly in the clouds and in the invented world, it is useful to fight with your muzzle on the asphalt, and it is better to kill yourself. Only narrow-minded individuals can talk about the legal aspects of such cases, since they do not know and do not understand nichrome, and in the head there are only wishes and ambitions. Only asphalt disease can cure such people.
                2. Sergey M. Karasev
                  Sergey M. Karasev 7 September 2020 01: 49 New
                  0
                  And all for the sake of Navalny?

                  Why is it necessary just for the sake of Navalny? High-quality equipment for medical analyzes will never be superfluous, it will come in handy more than once. And it's not hard to find shishi. They are not that heavy, tea is not SP-2.
    2. Harry cuper
      Harry cuper 6 September 2020 18: 54 New
      -16
      For some reason, the Ministry of Internal Affairs did not create a joint group with Misha Efremov. Isn't it strange?
    3. Deck
      Deck 6 September 2020 18: 57 New
      -9
      If you want the truth so much, why not create a joint investigation team?


      For example, this is an answer from Andrey Voln, head of the clinic for traumatology, orthopedics and spinal surgery at the Ilyinsky hospital
      "The National Medical Chamber, represented by Dr. Roshal, turned to German doctors with a proposal to create a joint expert commission to understand what happened to Alexei Navalny.
      I have a simpler proposal for Roshal. It's much easier to understand the processes. What do you need:
      1. To find out on the basis of what clinical data the doctor (paramedic) of the ambulance of Omsk diagnosed exogenous intoxication and brought the patient to the toxicological intensive care unit. Not in cardio. Not in vascular resuscitation. Namely in toxicology. Find out in detail and accurately. This is not difficult.
      2. Find out on the basis of what clinical manifestations the doctor (paramedic) of the ambulance administered atropine to the patient. This is important for diagnosis too.
      3. Request a copy of the patient's medical record A.A. Navalny. (in agreement with relatives) from the BSMP Omsk. Find out what kind of therapy the patient received and what diagnosis was made.
      4. Find out in the Ministry of Health why it was the neurophysiologist and the resuscitator who were sent to Omsk. Not a toxicologist. Let me remind you that in the BSMP Navalny A.A. was under the control of resuscitators. And toxicologists. Why did they need a resuscitator from Moscow, and not a toxicologist or both combined?
      Was the resuscitator really sent to Omsk just to "broadcast the situation." So Doctor Teplykh writes in his FB. What does it mean?
      5. To interview in detail the Moscow resuscitator who from the capital's toxicologists took part remotely in the council. In his responses to Meduza, the doctor writes that these were some toxicologists from the Moscow Medical Center of Forensic Medicine. Does the doctor know that toxicologists - clinicians do not work in forensic medicine centers? Does Doctor Teplykh know that only toxicologists-chemists, experts, and not specialists in the treatment of poisoning work there? There are simply no clinicians on the staff. Or does he deliberately mix concepts? Why does he say that the main thing for a toxicologist is the identification of the poison? Yes. It is very important. But, not all poisons are not always identified. Therefore, for the clinician-toxicologist, everything is important - anamnesis, clinic, information from ambulance colleagues and, only then, laboratory data. With whom "all night" was Doctor Teplykh "in touch"? With clinical toxicologists, what do the clinic know and know how to treat poisoning? Or just the lab chemists?
      6. The doctor says that the patient was injected with atropine. In what doses? The fact is that the doses of atropine, as an antidote, are tens, or even hundreds of times higher than the "usual" doses of atropine, which are often used when accompanied by mechanical ventilation. Was atropine used as an antidote? If so, was the diagnosis of poisoning made? If it is “simple” to accompany mechanical ventilation, then why talk about it?
      This list is minimal.
      But, if you get answers to these questions (this is a matter of several hours), then most likely you won't have to bother your colleagues from Germany either.
      All the answers are here, Dr. Roshal. In Omsk. In Moscow. Not in Berlin "
      1. New
        New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 17 New
        -11
        Quote: Deck
        All the answers are here, Dr. Roshal.

        just like that, but stubborn can't understand.
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          1. BastaKarapuzik And
            BastaKarapuzik And 6 September 2020 21: 01 New
            +9
            What doesn't fit? What was persecuted and did not work? How so ??
            Why exactly were they hounded? Why Newbie ????? Why didn't he die ???? !!!
            In the end, why did they give it to Germany ?? ......
            And the state is guilty by definition.
            What is in the minds of compatriots is an open question.
            1. Campanella
              Campanella 6 September 2020 23: 04 New
              +2
              These replicants of Echo of Moscow have problems with analytical thinking! Their cases are solid ...
              1. New
                New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 50 New
                -1
                Quote: Campanella
                with analytical thinking!

                Analyst laughing what is the clinic of hyper- and hypoglycemic coma? Visually and without laboratory
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella 7 September 2020 09: 18 New
                  0
                  And where is the coma? "Doctor"?
          2. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 7 September 2020 01: 19 New
            0
            Yes, I would be glad, even if all the liberals were exterminated, but they were not killed even as a newcomer, they themselves do not seem to believe in such nonsense.
        2. Deck
          Deck 6 September 2020 19: 55 New
          -1
          From modern Belarus, a remarkably accurate word-name of these people "snares" has appeared.
      2. Campanella
        Campanella 6 September 2020 23: 01 New
        0
        What's the deal? Congenial!
        You can customize whatever you want under your homebrew theory!)))
        Do you know how modern medicine works? Did you use an ambulance? Apparently not. But you think like an expert.
        Therefore, all the answers are in your head.
    4. New
      New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 07 New
      -12
      Quote: Odyssey
      In general, Roshal's initiative is the first meaningful action by the Russian authorities in this matter.

      this is not his initiative
      Quote: Odyssey
      And the authorities of the Russian Federation have the right and are obliged to demand their presence.

      for some reason, the Russian authorities did not investigate and punish the authors of the 2 previous attacks on him
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 6 September 2020 20: 26 New
        -4
        All political murders in Russia were not properly investigated, the perpetrators were punished as much as possible, and the customers were not found.
  11. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 6 September 2020 18: 44 New
    +5
    Wasn't it this girl who trawled him?
    It is quite logical that she does not want to see Roshal then.
  12. fn34440
    fn34440 6 September 2020 18: 48 New
    +7
    Of all the bloggers in Russia, NATO intelligence chose Navalny. Not poisoned. Think his presidential 2% ambition will grow to 51%, so? Out of pity?
    Moscow does not believe in tears.
    In general, this story of poisoning is a clean copier from the frequently shown film, "The Professional", where the hero of Jason Stateham, at the test site, poisons a glass of tea to the victim.
    Templates, templates, templates. No improvisation.
    1. BastaKarapuzik And
      BastaKarapuzik And 6 September 2020 21: 02 New
      +4
      Remember the UN tube
  13. RealPilot
    RealPilot 6 September 2020 18: 50 New
    +2
    First, the truth is not needed there. Everything is paid for, provided and promised ...

    Well, if he does survive, then they can give him a watered asylum from all criminal cases (he was supposed to have a court the other day - on a criminal offense for insulting a veteran, there was even a written undertaking not to leave the place). And suddenly they didn’t persecute, then there is no reason in the shelter ...

    At the same time, Roshal does not propose specifically to TREAT with Russian participation. He offers to INVESTIGATE!
    This is a colossal difference.
    1. New
      New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 08 New
      -11
      Quote: RealPilot
      He offers to INVESTIGATE!

      since when did he become an investigator?
      1. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 44 New
        -11
        Yes, that's just recently. How the text was brought for signature.
  14. Harry cuper
    Harry cuper 6 September 2020 18: 52 New
    -33
    Dr. Roshal is haunted by the laurels of prof. Burdenko with the Katyn Commission. But the elderly person is already.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 September 2020 19: 00 New
      15
      Quote: Harry Cuper
      Dr. Roshal is haunted by the laurels of prof. Burdenko with the Katyn Commission. But the elderly person is already.

      Young man, you would be ashamed.
      1. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 01 New
        -32
        Yes, it would not hurt you to remember about shame
    2. tatra
      tatra 6 September 2020 19: 21 New
      +5
      A very indicative commentary characterizing the essence of the enemies of the communists - they believed the conclusions of the Hitlerite commission and the Russophobic Poles on Katyn, now, in the situation with Navalny, they believed the conclusions of the West, which is already waging a false information war against their anti-Soviet Russia.
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        1. tatra
          tatra 6 September 2020 20: 27 New
          +6
          Your malicious and boorish commentary does nothing to refute my words about the essence of the enemies of the communists.
          1. Revival
            Revival 6 September 2020 21: 48 New
            +6
            You know, I am for socialism, but you would, forgive me, somehow change the record, "enemies of the communists" in each sentence 7 times, well, it's already ridiculous, but it looks repulsive, or are you deliberately discrediting the idea?
            It looks more like anti-communist propaganda of the 90s, when they deliberately photographed an insane-looking grandmother with a portrait of Stalin and said, here they are communists, you want to support them !?
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 September 2020 20: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: tatra
        A very revealing commentary on the nature of enemies

        His nickname says everything about him.
    3. Nitochkin
      Nitochkin 8 September 2020 08: 34 New
      -1
      Quote: Harry Cuper
      Dr. Roshal is haunted by the laurels of prof. Burdenko with the Katyn Commission. But the elderly person is already.

      You, navalnok, about Katyn better shut up. All your liberal dancing around Katyn is sheer lies. You lie so much that you yourself get confused in your lies.
  15. Shahno
    Shahno 6 September 2020 18: 54 New
    -14
    Quote: Trapp1st
    why the relatives of the oppositionist themselves actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation
    Rumor has it that Navalny's carcass disappeared from the fumble, i.e. he has already left him, only they do not specify alive not alive.

    Quote: Trapp1st
    why the relatives of the oppositionist themselves actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation
    Rumor has it that Navalny's carcass disappeared from the fumble, i.e. he has already left him, only they do not specify alive not alive.

    Therefore, they do not trust Roshal ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Shahno
      Therefore, they do not trust Roshal ...

      because americans need to slow down SP2
      1. New
        New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: Balu
        because americans need to slow down SP2

        And no way without Navalny? laughing how much does the construction cost?
  16. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 6 September 2020 18: 58 New
    +6
    A stranger, and he has nothing to do with Russia. Russian people in Russia are treated by Russian doctors, and strangers are treated by strangers.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 19: 02 New
      -13
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Russian people in Russia are treated by Russian doctors


      You are cruel to all children, for whose treatment they collect money abroad via SMS.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Russian people in Russia are treated by Russian doctors


        You are cruel to all children, for whose treatment they collect money abroad via SMS.

        there are not many pathologies that cannot be treated in Russia
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 20: 32 New
          -8
          A lot or not, this does not contradict my statement.
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 44 New
            +5
            Quote: Eye of the Crying
            A lot or not, this does not contradict my statement.

            on a local channel there was a story about a one-year-old boy with clubfoot and an appeal to collect 300 thousand for an operation. Such operations in our city have been done free of charge for almost a hundred years, as well as throughout Russia.
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 20: 47 New
              -8
              Quote: Balu
              on the local channel there was a story about a one-year-old boy with clubfoot and an appeal to collect 300 thousand for an operation


              Tell me, what exactly is incomprehensible to you in the phrase "cruel to all children for whose treatment they collect money via SMS" and for what purpose did you give an example in which money for treatment abroad is not collected?
              1. Baloo
                Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 48 New
                +3
                Quote: Eye of the Crying
                Quote: Balu
                on the local channel there was a story about a one-year-old boy with clubfoot and an appeal to collect 300 thousand for an operation


                Tell me, what exactly is incomprehensible to you in the phrase "cruel to all children for whose treatment they collect money via SMS" and for what purpose did you give an example in which money for treatment abroad is not collected?

                once again read what you wrote .... What was your nickname before?
                1. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 20: 50 New
                  -8
                  Quote: Balu
                  read what you wrote again ...


                  I read it. So what?

                  Quote: Balu
                  What was your nickname before?


                  Guess. What is yours?
        2. New
          New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 53 New
          -1
          Quote: Balu
          there are not many pathologies that cannot be treated in Russia

          How much quality?
  17. New
    New Year day 6 September 2020 18: 59 New
    -16
    Indeed, why do the relatives of the oppositionist themselves actually oppose a comprehensive and objective investigation involving both Russian and German specialists?

    because the capabilities of Russian specialists have already been assessed, and the Germans will figure it out without us. And the investigation should be carried out by those who are trained and should do it.
    The consultation is intended to establish the health status of the subject, diagnosis, determine the prognosis, tactics for further examination and treatment, the expediency of referral to specialized departments or another, specialized, medical institution.
    We disassemble on the shelves.
    1. The diagnosis is clear
    2. Treatment - according to the diagnosis
    3. The tactics are determined by the attending physician
    4. Transfer to another medical institution is not required.
    Question: what question can our specialists answer? What is this cheese-boron for then?
    To the question about the equipment and our diagnostics:
    In Sklifa, a spectrometer with a resolution of 0 amu. (atomic mass units), the Germans have 05 amu. In other words, the capabilities of the German device are 0,001 times higher than the capabilities of the Sklif spectrometer, but is there a spectrometer in Omsk?
    What are we going to talk about?
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 6 September 2020 19: 10 New
      +9
      More faith in the Omsk doctors who slept Navalny's life than the German ones who threw Noviche.
      1. New
        New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 11 New
        -12
        Quote: Fungus
        More faith in the Omsk doctors who slept Navalny's life than the German ones who threw Noviche.

        you need to go to church with faith
        1. Arthur73
          Arthur73 7 September 2020 00: 59 New
          -1
          And if the Germans do not find any newcomer in the analyzes from Omsk? It will be difficult to change shoes on the fly. That is why you are against the joint investigation. You already have all the high likes!
          1. Arthur73
            Arthur73 7 September 2020 02: 48 New
            0
            Allegedly, German military personnel from the Institute of Toxicology of the Bundeswehr found traces of a newcomer. That is, whatever one may say, NATO soldiers. These "gentlemen" demshiza suggests taking their word for it? Or still compare Russian and German samples of analyzes, if necessary, conduct new ones and finally find out whether newbie and where was it used? Aleshka's wife doesn't want this. Afraid? Knows something? It's called like this: "Was there a boy?"
    2. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 6 September 2020 19: 19 New
      14
      The only thing. which is annoying. so it is that in the clinic "Charite" Yushchenko was treated in due time. Tymoshenko and some other figures, and everything there was, oh, how ambiguous Maybe the equipment is better and the Germans as people are also good But the sediment remained ... dioxin
      1. New
        New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 22 New
        -10
        Quote: Cossack 471
        in the clinic "Charite" Yushchenko was treated at one time. Tymoshenko and some other figures

        just look at the rating of the clinic in the world request
        For some reason, Kobzon also did not want to be operated on in Russia, but fell into a non-hamlet
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 28 New
          +4
          Quote: Silvestr
          For some reason, Kobzon also did not want to be operated on in Russia, but fell into a non-hamlet

          popper for service
          1. New
            New Year day 6 September 2020 23: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Balu
            popper for service

            Lay there in the general ward next to the Germans
            1. Moskovit
              Moskovit 7 September 2020 07: 07 New
              +1
              Where did you get such data?
      2. Avior
        Avior 6 September 2020 22: 56 New
        +1
        There, the radio operator Kat was giving birth. And the doctors from the clinic in the Gestapo snitched on her. I personally saw the video. smile
      3. Arthur73
        Arthur73 7 September 2020 02: 49 New
        +2
        Gorbachev and Yeltsin have also been there! Directly a mecca for "guardians" for Russia.
    3. Harry cuper
      Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 49 New
      -2
      There is a spectrometer in Omsk. Not in this case. If the spectrum of a substance is not entered into the memory of the device, it does not matter what the sensitivity of the device is. And who would have loaded the spectrum of that rubbish into the Omsk spectrometer?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 6 September 2020 20: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Harry Cuper
        And who would have loaded the spectrum of that rubbish into the Omsk spectrometer?

        then the question is: what did they find? -Answer: nothing.
        Why then dance with a tambourine?
  18. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 September 2020 19: 00 New
    +7
    Dr. Roshal, I want to say: my husband is not your property. You did not have, do not have and will not have anything to do with his treatment. First of all, because in case of FOS poisoning, the help of a pediatrician is not needed, and besides, all your public activities in recent years does not give me the slightest opportunity to trust you and respect you. You are not acting as a doctor, but as the voice of the state, and you do not want to help the patient you do not care about, but to find out information and curry favor. Do not take a sin on your soul, especially at such a respectable age, "- wrote Julia Navalnaya on September 6 on Instagram. ....... What are these our "oppositionists". I just haven't seen a bigger cattle in my life. They need to give up any decent house, not take on any decent job. Bulge out with the help of a doorman from any government agency. Blow and kick.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 19: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      .What are these our "oppositionists".


      In my opinion, and so it is clear, adequate of course, that the dead Lesha is the least needed by the Russian leadership. As if they have few other problems ..
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  20. Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 6 September 2020 19: 02 New
    11
    Doctors in Russia called Yulia Navalnaya's reaction "incomprehensible and unconstructive."
    And what's incomprehensible? They do not want it to be revealed that the poisoning is a fairy tale, as in the story with the Skripals (the same ours were not allowed to be investigated). And the investigation of the MH17 aircraft shot down over Ukraine would not hurt to remember.
    In general, information warfare in all its glory.
  21. alex007i
    alex007i 6 September 2020 19: 02 New
    +3
    I have the only reasonable explanation why it was given to the Germans at all - how was litmus used?
    There are no more reasons visible.
  22. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 September 2020 19: 03 New
    +1
    She now has one road - to the monastery. There is no way back without a mummy. And the Fritzes of Lyokhin need the mummy themselves as evidence. They will show Lech at the mazal, for pfennigs. And a guard with shmasers in horned helmets at the door. And Lyokh's wife, like that Brussels pissing boy, will shed tears day and night for the innocently poisoned coward. laughing
  23. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 6 September 2020 19: 06 New
    -23
    Roshal and Myasnikov, which teaches from the TV not to get sick, both doctors from papers and books ... One does, the other says ...
    1. Just Alexander
      Just Alexander 6 September 2020 19: 23 New
      +5
      Putting Myasnikov and Roshal on a par is the same as recognizing manure as equal to bread.
      1. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 52 New
        -5
        Marshal Petain was a national hero of France. And then he smeared himself with cooperation with the Nazis. And stood on a par with Quisling.
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 6 September 2020 19: 46 New
      +3
      You are an armless and mindless creature, that is, a bulk. Roshal and Myasnikov saved more people than your brain cells. These doctors are at least as good as German ones. Myasnikov, for example, worked in the USA, this for you, a slave, can be considered the highest qualification.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 6 September 2020 20: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        Myasnikov, for example, worked in the USA

        Why boast of work in the camp of the enemy? He also worked in Africa!
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 7 September 2020 08: 16 New
          0
          Have you not completely read what I wrote? I emphasized this for the bulk slaves, for whom all who worked in the United States are people of the highest order. For me personally, he is just an excellent doctor, like Roshal, of whom there are not so many in Germany.
  24. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 6 September 2020 19: 12 New
    +6
    She dreams that hubby would spend more time there, get even more money, and ideally she's dead.
    Charite is served by the special services. It will be necessary, Navalny will die while wondering what he would live.
  25. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 September 2020 19: 12 New
    +4
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Herself and Newbie smeared in panties

    your level of development is simply killing. Looks like you have a rich personal life experience in family life

    My personal life concerns only me, not you scat ... laughing And in communication, your level wants to be much more developed. Free us from your conclusions
    1. New
      New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 18 New
      -13
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      My personal life concerns only me

      judging by your flaunting proposals - concerns
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      scatter ....
    2. Harry cuper
      Harry cuper 6 September 2020 19: 25 New
      -16
      You squeak and climb with your moral principles. Then for some reason you are offended.
      1. Revival
        Revival 6 September 2020 21: 58 New
        0
        Yes, he has a split, at least!

        "Spare US of your conclusions."

        Apparently the "king" at least!
  26. 4ekist
    4ekist 6 September 2020 19: 12 New
    +2
    .... Doctors in Russia called the reaction of Yulia Navalnaya "incomprehensible and unconstructive." Indeed, why are the relatives of the oppositionist themselves opposed to a comprehensive and objective investigation involving both Russian and German specialists? .....

    This is not enough for these relatives. Perhaps they are most directly related to Lesha's current state of health.
    1. New
      New Year day 6 September 2020 19: 19 New
      -11
      Quote: 4ekist
      why are the relatives of the oppositionist themselves opposed to a comprehensive and objective investigation involving both Russian and German experts? .....

      the last word our medicine said - metabolic disorders. What to talk about with Rafaelok lovers laughing
  27. Cossack 471
    Cossack 471 6 September 2020 19: 13 New
    15
    I remember it was necessary to remove Khattab. so he received the letter. read upset. by the evening the foam had gone and the next day he had already left this world. And here "Skripal" is alive. Navalny is alive How is it not serious
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 19: 14 New
      -7
      An ambulance was not called for Khattaba. And then, according to you, he lived another day.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 19: 45 New
        +5
        Jokharu UAB flew in by accident, yes .... And the other, uh, real "opponents of the regime" ended up badly - and Lesha and former Colonel Skripal is some kind of clownery ...
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 19: 48 New
          -5
          It would seem, moreover, the UAB on Dzhokhar to the poisoning of Khattab ...

          Quote: Cyril G ...
          Lesha with former Colonel Skripal is some kind of clowning ...


          Probably, those who organized the liquidation of Dzhokhar and Khattab are already retired.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 19: 58 New
            +6
            Quote: Eye of the Crying
            s, and UAB on Dzhokhar to the poisoning of Khattab ...


            Moreover.
            The special services quite successfully eliminated the leaders of the Ichkeria illegal armed groups. On whom the UAB did not regret, who was blown up by explosives, who was shot like a dog, and who was poisoned. And then they use some kind of inadequate crap from which the patients do not die like flies ...
            I do not believe

            Probably, those who organized the liquidation of Dzhokhar and Khattab are already retired.

            So what?
            1. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 20: 08 New
              -7
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              And then they use some kind of inadequate crap from which the patients do not die like flies ...
              I do not believe


              With faith - to the church. Possible reasons for failure can be found even in the open press.

              By the way, at least one person died during the poisoning of the Skripals ..

              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Probably, those who organized the liquidation of Dzhokhar and Khattab are already retired.

              So what?


              But their change knows how to drive Gelendvagens around Moscow.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 20: 15 New
                +8
                Quote: Eye of the Crying
                And their change is able to drive Gelendvagens around Moscow


                From this conclusion that they do not know how to work?
                The percentage of academy graduates is not that great in the enrollment.

                Quote: Eye of the Crying
                By the way, at least one person died during the poisoning of the Skripals ..


                Yeah highley likely. It's funny. Unsubstantiated lies in English. But the "Object" is more alive than all living things.

                With faith - to the church.

                Apply your advice to yourself first.
                1. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 20: 20 New
                  -7
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  From this conclusion that they do not know how to work?


                  No, inference from other open data.

                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  The percentage of academy graduates is not that great in the enrollment.


                  And this has been going on for a long time. In addition, academy graduates do not go to ordinary positions.

                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Yeah highley like.


                  You are simply not familiar with the facts. Even with those that are in open sources.
                  1. Cyril G ...
                    Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 20: 35 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Eye of the Crying
                    You are simply not familiar with the facts.

                    I'm as familiar as the rest. Why do I think the English officialdom is stupid nonsense designed for tearful idiots. They needed a reason - and they created it ...

                    Quote: Eye of the Crying
                    In addition, graduates of academies do not go to ordinary positions.

                    I wonder who told you such nonsense? Of course, no one goes to the rank and file. The position of an operative in the FSB is captain's. However, no one will put in reality the head, even of any supernumerary department of a freshly baked graduate of the academy.
                    And in the FSB they invite graduates of the relevant civilian universities to serve and select from among the military personnel of the Ministry of Defense and the Interior (I doubt that anything has changed after the organization of the Russian Guard)

                    No, inference from other open data.

                    I will allow myself to laugh mockingly in your face. Tell me you're probably a liberal by faith?
                    1. The eye of the crying
                      The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 20: 40 New
                      -10
                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      I'm as familiar as the rest.


                      You obviously did not know about the lost person.

                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      In addition, graduates of academies do not go to ordinary positions.

                      I wonder who told you such nonsense? Of course, no one goes to the rank and file.


                      If you wanted to argue with me, you failed.

                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      I will allow myself to laugh mockingly in your face.


                      Yes, no question, laugh.

                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      Tell me you're probably a liberal by faith?


                      I am an atheist by faith.
                      1. Cyril G ...
                        Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 20: 45 New
                        +4
                        If you wanted to argue with me, you failed.

                        Why, it was quite possible, YOU ARE NOW HARDLY PICTURING A GOOD MINE WHEN YOU BAD PLAY, because you tried to talk about the issue in which I apologize "with neither ear nor snout" (p.). In general, some kind of baby talk.

                        You obviously did not know about the lost person.

                        I clearly knew about the deceased. And I see it as a foul-smelling staging of the British special services. By the way - You are bad at READING THOUGHTS, ask the doctor to inject you with a sedative.
                      2. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 20: 55 New
                        -10
                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        YOU ARE NOW HARDLY PICTING A GOOD MINE WHEN YOU BAD PLAY,


                        Yes? As you say.

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        I clearly knew about the deceased.


                        According to your reaction, the opposite could be stated.
                      3. Cyril G ...
                        Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 21: 15 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Eye of the Crying
                        Yes?

                        As if you blinked the obvious stupidity and tried to leave the topic.

                        Quote: Eye of the Crying
                        According to your reaction, the opposite could be stated.

                        Why would I take nonsense seriously?
                      4. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 21: 19 New
                        -5
                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        you blinked the obvious stupidity and tried to get off topic


                        Could you remind me what kind of nonsense I was?

                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        Why would I take nonsense seriously?


                        I have no idea why you would take anything seriously. It doesn't even interest me.
                      5. Cyril G ...
                        Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 21: 25 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Eye of the Crying
                        Could you remind me what kind of nonsense I was?

                        Well, someone would doubt that you have already forgotten about everything. Read your bright and unrelenting speeches, maybe remember, although hardly of course.

                        Quote: Eye of the Crying
                        I have no idea,

                        Do not have but carry nonsense .... Such a habit that le?

                        It doesn't even interest me.

                        And you are not interesting to me personally. On this minor note, we will end our communication
                      6. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 21: 25 New
                        -5
                        As expected.
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  • codetalker
    codetalker 6 September 2020 19: 21 New
    12
    I am not a doctor myself, but I read the articles and understood everything ...
    Here our people are stupid, it turns out. They study for 6 years as doctors, then another 2 years in residency and all life every 5 years they retake the examination to confirm qualifications. And I had to read a couple of articles ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: codetalker
      I am not a doctor myself, but I read the articles and understood everything ...
      Here our people are stupid, it turns out. They study for 6 years as doctors, then another 2 years in residency and all life every 5 years they retake the examination to confirm qualifications. And I had to read a couple of articles ...

      to become a professional in any specialty, you need at least 10 years of independent work
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 September 2020 19: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    My personal life concerns only me

    judging by your flaunting proposals - concerns
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    scatter ....

    The gentle heart of the "liberal" "defender of the faith" could not stand the cowards of his idol laughing Rid the society of people like you.
    1. New
      New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 01 New
      -1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      The gentle heart of the "liberal" "defender of the faith" could not stand the cowards of his idol Spare the community of people like you

      I am glad that my initial diagnosis was confirmed. Drink finlepsin at night
  • BAI
    BAI 6 September 2020 19: 23 New
    +4
    Here you need to study the following questions:
    1. Is Navalny's life insured?
    2. Who is the beneficiary?
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 19: 47 New
      +3
      I'd bet 1000+ if I could. That's right, you don't know why they got soaked, then because of the dough.
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 7 September 2020 01: 28 New
      0

      BAI
      Yesterday, 19: 23
      NEW
      +4
      Here you need to study the following questions:
      1. Is Navalny's life insured?
      2. Who is the beneficiary?
      Behind the counter are the West and the Merikatos. How they will sell the lech, in whole or in parts, depends on the sellers)). bully
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 September 2020 19: 24 New
    +5
    In general, he was just a cistern in the struggle of some oligarchs against others. laughing
    1. Revival
      Revival 6 September 2020 22: 03 New
      +1
      That is, leaking lies of some oligarchs against others?
  • Campanella
    Campanella 6 September 2020 19: 24 New
    +2
    The West has already pulled up!
    They really liked the "Novichok" perfume line!
    The killer aroma in the hands of the Anglo-Saxons solves many of their problems!)))
    Even his panties he gives a special note of his scent. And most importantly, a very long train ... which can be found if desired at any time and in any weather
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 6 September 2020 19: 38 New
    0
    Hahaha.
    Want to get closer?
    For some reason, Russian oligarchs and celebrities immediately go over the hill for treatment, and do not create an "expert group"

    Under the crown, too, everyone who could from the wealthy quickly dumped foreign countries on yachts, and did not run in search of "expert groups" ..

    When they attacked in the gateway, will they also offer to "create a group"? Or run away, and then decide?
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 6 September 2020 19: 45 New
    +8
    Leonid Roshal's initiative should in fact be a requirement of the Russian leadership to the German authorities. The Germans demanded action from the Russian side, it is necessary to put forward counter demands.
    Let the joint medical team be given access to Navalny.
    Ms Navalnaya's appeal to Leonid Roshal should be taken as an appeal to the Russian authorities
    You did not have, do not have and will not have any access to Lechaim
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 6 September 2020 23: 14 New
      -2
      The Germans demanded action from the Russian side
      The Russian side has already caved in by expelling Navalny, who is under investigation. This means that there will be deflections further. Putin's politics
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 6 September 2020 19: 55 New
    +4
    Who is Navalny and how is he different from other citizens of Russia? Why "newbie" again? Why did the Germans send a plane for him when we have many other patients who need urgent medical attention in Germany and the German government does not send planes for them? Why are the libers so excited about this topic? The answers are on the surface, and the most important of them is SP-2. The next news will be (not about bulk), but about the fact that gas will go to Europe via SP-2, which is mixed with a "newcomer" ...)))
    1. Jaromir
      Jaromir 6 September 2020 20: 31 New
      +9
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      The answers are on the surface, and the most important of them is SP-2.

      SP-2 is one of the reasons bearing the economic aspect. The second reason, in my opinion, is political. And the second reason is connected with the events in Belarus.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 20: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: Jaromir
        And the second reason is connected with the events in Belarus.


        An attempt to recoup the failure in Bellorussia ...
        1. Jaromir
          Jaromir 6 September 2020 20: 57 New
          10
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          An attempt to recoup the failure in Bellorussia ...

          Quite right. Precisely for failure! Forgot to mention this moment in my comment. Thanks for the clarification hi
    2. Knell wardenheart
      Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 21: 52 New
      -3
      From a political point of view, the Germans sent a plane for him so that tomorrow the overseas Banhammer would not fall on their companies cooperating with the Russian Federation, in connection with "cooperation with the state using chemical weapons against its own citizens."
      So they at least reinsured, having the opportunity to lead the process, from which they could potentially suffer.
      Logic-bablogic, guys.
  • Shkworen
    Shkworen 6 September 2020 20: 01 New
    +1
    when the culprit has already been appointed a priori, then any initiatives are useless here :)
    hiley-like his mother :)
    1. Jaromir
      Jaromir 6 September 2020 20: 29 New
      +8
      Quote: Shkworen
      when the guilty person has already been appointed

      Our special services should prove that there was no poisoning. If it turns out to be proved, then other persons (organizations, countries) will already be guilty
      1. Shkworen
        Shkworen 6 September 2020 21: 17 New
        +1
        why should our special services prove anything? will they listen to them? I doubt
        Yes, and from Germany, no evidence is visible, some statements ... but as you know, gentlemen take their word for it
        But the request of the Prosecutor General's Office was sent to the Germans on August 27, and there is still silence ...
        1. Jaromir
          Jaromir 6 September 2020 21: 27 New
          +8
          Perhaps you are right ... Do you remember the story of the American reconnaissance plane? On May 1, 1960, an American U-2 reconnaissance aircraft was shot down. After the spread of information about the destruction of U-2, the Americans, thinking that no evidence had survived, generally denied the very fact of a deliberate violation of the border. Then it was announced that the pilot was lost. But the Soviet side denied this statement, providing evidence in the form of aircraft wreckage and the testimony of the pilot himself. After that, the flights of reconnaissance aircraft over the territory of the USSR were stopped by the Americans.
          Why not do the same now? Otherwise, the stories of accusing Russia of using detoxifying agents will continue in the future.
          1. New
            New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 03 New
            -3
            Quote: Jaromir
            Why not do the same now?

            We wait! But this will not happen
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 20: 03 New
    -14
    1) Roshal is a pediatrician, not a toxicologist ..
    2) Roshal is Putin's confidant and well-known pro-Putin figure

    You can relate to his figure in different ways, but from a political point of view, any of his participation in Navalny's treatment is not particularly acceptable, IMHO ..
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 21 New
      +9
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      1) Roshal is a pediatrician, not a toxicologist ..
      2) Roshal is Putin's confidant and well-known pro-Putin figure

      You can relate to his figure in different ways, but from a political point of view, any of his participation in Navalny's treatment is not particularly acceptable, IMHO ..

      Roshal heads the National Chamber of Medicine, the main public expert council of the medical community. Don't dust the stranger.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 21: 26 New
        -7
        Well, yes, the political moment was clearly left overboard ..
        I just point out that this character should not be regarded as a non-biased figure. And it is also difficult to appeal with competence against this.
      2. New
        New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 04 New
        -6
        Quote: Balu
        Roshal heads the national chamber of medicine - the main public expert council of the medical community

        And what of it? Saint? Medical functionary from the Kremlin. How many times have I personally heard his odes to Putin
    2. Jaromir
      Jaromir 6 September 2020 20: 25 New
      15
      What does the "political point of view" have to do with it? Roshal made an absolutely normal proposal. To deny the proposal is possible only if the "poisoning" of Navalny is a performance. Navalny's wife, by her refusal, confirms that there was no poisoning. This is all a farce.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 21: 29 New
        -8
        Well, ok, there was no poisoning .. what did Navalny do for more than a week at the Omsk doctors? Played chess? Maybe they are also biased people, according to your logic?
        And from them he drowned on foot in the airport, or was he still taken away? Your picture does not add up, my dear ..
        1. Jaromir
          Jaromir 6 September 2020 21: 43 New
          +9
          Good. Let the poisoning be. Then why does Navalny's wife not want a joint expert group? Why should they be afraid?
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          what did Navalny do for more than a week at the Omsk doctors?

          In the initial, sounded, diagnosis made by our doctors, Navalny was told that there was a violation of the carbohydrate balance, that is, a metabolic disorder. It was caused due to the sharp drop in blood sugar.
          Everything else is already political intrigue directed against our country.
          1. Knell wardenheart
            Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 21: 48 New
            -9
            You know, people who drink water for months like horses - here they are, it happens, and they lie in intensive care for a week. If they survive, of course. Some uncle who got lost in the desert and did not drink for four days - well, too, he will lie down for so long, they will be pumped out. Or Schumacher, for example, after not the tenth and not the twentieth accident - again, he can also.
            And you are rubbing me here on a blue eye that a forty-year-old man leading a rather active lifestyle (but without sports excesses and doping) - fell into a vegetable state due to a "sharp drop in blood sugar" ?! Camoon, he's not a model girl with anorexia)) Well, seriously, turn on your head)
            1. Jaromir
              Jaromir 6 September 2020 22: 04 New
              10
              Quote: Knell Wardenheart
              And here you rub it on my blue eye

              Rub in an ointment for hemorrhoids. I have announced to you the diagnosis made by our doctors.
              Quote: Knell Wardenheart
              he is not a model girl with anorexia

              He's worse.
              Quote: Knell Wardenheart
              Well seriously, turn on your head)

              You seem to be an adult, but you still believe in fairy tales "about the wonderful and wonderful Western world, where there are no lies and falsehoods."
              1. Knell wardenheart
                Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 23: 10 New
                -10
                We come back to the beginning - like "the priest had a dog." What does the western world have to do with it? OUR DOCTORS have been in an artificial coma for more than a week. They identified a diagnosis that does not fit well with the condition of the vegetable, given its complexion and condition before it. He lay with them for a week or a week and a half - they could not do anything about it. And he was taken over the hill to complete the treatment.
                Someone builds some completely schizoid constructions out of this - for me everything is obvious, and the Western world is generally outside the brackets.
                1) The dude was trashed (who, why - outside the brackets).
                2) For a week and a half, our doctors could not get him out of this state and gave birth to the assumption you noted about "a sharp drop in blood sugar". Shchshchikarno what to say. Reminds "The patient is more alive than dead" (C).
                3) The patient was taken further - over the hill. It’s as if we don’t treat people with an annual income of a couple of million. As if we ourselves do not treat the same foreign public at home. Simple practice.
                The facts indicate that all this is at least not some kind of linden and not garbage. If the doctors couldn't do something about it for a week and a half. At the very least, this is a reason to think about the fact that Mr. Navalny himself has hardly signed up for this. As a maximum - to acquire skepticism about the general state of our medicine, which cannot help a person with a "sharp drop in blood sugar" without an artificial coma.

                But here I do not see people who think about it. Nav bad and burn him on the grill, that's all the logic. D = degradation.
                1. Alexy
                  Alexy 7 September 2020 03: 00 New
                  +5
                  Why are you lying? Navalny was admitted to the Omsk hospital with a preliminary diagnosis of poisoning on August 20, and on August 22 he was already in Germany.
                  1. Nitochkin
                    Nitochkin 7 September 2020 04: 41 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Alexy
                    Why are you lying? Navalny was admitted to the Omsk hospital with a preliminary diagnosis of poisoning on August 20, and on August 22 he was already in Germany.


                    Why ask rhetorical questions? Sisyan's adepts lie as they breathe, this is their main physiological process, bgg.
                    1. Baloo
                      Baloo 7 September 2020 08: 30 New
                      0
                      Quote: Nitochkin
                      Why ask rhetorical questions? Sisyan's adepts lie as they breathe, this is their main physiological process, bgg.

                      this is their way of being, they make a living by the State Department and other babos
          2. Avior
            Avior 6 September 2020 22: 42 New
            0
            This is a consequence, not a cause.
        2. Mishanya 74
          Mishanya 74 7 September 2020 04: 18 New
          0
          Well, not a week ... A couple of days Lexey was in Omsk
      2. New
        New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 08 New
        -4
        Quote: Jaromir
        Roshal made an absolutely normal proposal.

        What normative act is supported by this? Ask Balu how many receipts are received from the patient and there is one important one - who can have information on the state of health. Is there a corresponding receipt from Navalny to Roshal? But this is a criminal offense. This is for a start. There are many more legal nuances
        So Roshal is
        Quote: Jaromir
        farce
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 7 September 2020 08: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: Silvestr
          Ask Balu how many receipts are received from the patient and there is one important one - who can have information on the state of health. Is there a corresponding receipt from Navalny to Roshal?

          It is impossible to take informed voluntary consent from a patient in a coma, about which an entry is made in the IDS signed by three doctors. In case of suspicion of a crime, infa is provided to law enforcement agencies in full, including the composition of the medical team and everyone who had access to the body. Roshal suggested joint dissemination, not publication of the newsletter. And in general, where is the real bulk, why not show? belay
    3. 4ekist
      4ekist 6 September 2020 20: 46 New
      +7
      And the conclusion of the doctors of the Bundeswehr was it? Who read it? And Merkel's speech is clearly politicized, nonsense.
      1. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 21: 09 New
        -8
        Quote: 4ekist
        And the conclusion of the doctors of the Bundeswehr was it?


        Navalny is being treated by Charite doctors, not by the Bundeswehr. Charité's conclusion was poisoning.
      2. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 21: 38 New
        -6
        Do not go beyond the boundaries of fact. The fact is that the man is in a coma - he was in a coma when he was in Omsk, in a coma he was taken to Germany. To everyone who sincerely believes that this is such a clever move in a multi-pass - I strongly recommend lying in an artificial coma under mechanical ventilation for at least a week. Perhaps this will help get rid of idiotic theories in fragile organisms.
        But who and why poisoned the subject, and how it was done - these are fabrications, without any basis of facts.
        I understand Nava's wife - 2 children and a woman who has been waiting for years that her husband will be killed or imprisoned. You will not envy her now and people who gloat over this, I would not even call moral ur * dy, this is much lower. From the point of view of Navalny's wife, the most logical version of who did it is understandable. And it is also logical that she perceives "cooperation" with the authorities in this way, in quotation marks.
        As for Roshal - Nav himself has repeatedly touched on his personality - both in the context of the fact that he is Putin's confidant and loyal agitator, and Roshal's own statements regarding the situation with the Coronavirus.
        So a certain amount of bias is also an important point here, elusive for people who like to crumble a bun on Navalny, but do not even have the slightest idea about his activities (except that he eats children, bathes in the blood of virgins and stole something from Kirovles ")
        1. Vitaly Tsymbal
          Vitaly Tsymbal 6 September 2020 21: 58 New
          +4
          As a citizen of the Russian Federation, I have no complaints about Roshal. Navalny, in my opinion, is the Kremlin's project, because I know people who were "removed from politics" and for lesser "sins", and Navalny always came out of "dry water". You, apparently, are not a citizen of the Russian Federation, so you are not given the right to "roll a barrel" neither "for" or "against" the person of Navalny or Roshal, Putin or Medvedev, Shoigu or Serdyukov ... By the way, from which country are you broadcasting?
          1. Knell wardenheart
            Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 23: 14 New
            -8
            Wow, are you a case of Octopus Paul? You are drawn to give predictions! But no, you haven't guessed. "Broadcast" TASS or Radio "Liberty" - and we are writing letters here)
            It's funny - you admit that people were "removed from politics" for lesser sins - but, of course, Nav is the bad one. How is it there - a sheep is afraid of a wolf and thinks that the cattle breeder is guarding the flock, but the wolves would have dragged one or two sheep away, and the cattle breeder would use them all. The sheep's point of view is clearer to you, apparently.
            1. Vitaly Tsymbal
              Vitaly Tsymbal 7 September 2020 08: 08 New
              +4
              I judge a person by business, not by show-off !!! Roshal saved hundreds, maybe thousands of children, and whom did your Navalny save? And about a sheep))) an unsuccessful example for Russian thinking, but it's understandable - a foreigner writes !!! In Russian we have the word shepherd - he grazes cattle (cows), there is a word - reindeer herder - he grazes deer, and there is a shepherd - who grazes sheep. The word cattle-breeder, in colloquial Russian is almost never found ... You judge Navalny without knowing the modern colloquial Russian language. But he is an idol for you - fighting for the truth, for us, who live in Russia, your idol is a bolabol who does nothing except loud statements and minor provocations ...
        2. New
          New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 11 New
          -5
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          I strongly recommend lying in an artificial coma under mechanical ventilation for at least a week

          The stoned ones think that they can do that, and at the same time they can pull themselves out of it. Nausea is continuous, all doctors, all toxicologists and resuscitators believe in the power of national health care. laughing
  • Baloo
    Baloo 6 September 2020 20: 19 New
    +8
    Quote: Silvestr
    Each hospital has its own ceiling of possibilities. The ceiling of Omsk's capabilities is incomparable with the German and even Moscow ones. Until there is no need, no one notices

    Toxicologists on the flushes from the hands have established from what the glass was made, from which the navral drank. You’re talking about the ceiling ...
    1. New
      New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 12 New
      -2
      Quote: Balu
      Toxicologists on the flushes from the hands have established from what the glass was made, from which the navral drank. You’re talking about the ceiling ...

      Believe it yourself laughing ?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 September 2020 20: 29 New
    +5
    Quote: Harry Cuper
    Fomkin, I have no doubt that you would do just that. Happiness that not all people are the same scum

    And you need to be kicked, because you will fail any business because of your handshake.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 6 September 2020 20: 35 New
    +7
    Does she need it? Five minutes later, the widow, and then the whole world gathered to treat this pope. What if they cure? She has more fat from the deceased. As well as the owners of Lehi.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 6 September 2020 20: 44 New
    +1
    Why not send Sergei Kuzhugetovich to the Bundeswehr clinic on a friendly visit? That is to say, visit a fellow countrywoman.
    1. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 21: 00 New
      -10
      Quote: Shuttle
      Why not send Sergei Kuzhugetovich to the Bundeswehr clinic


      Good idea! Send Sergey Kuzhugetovich.
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 7 September 2020 14: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Eye of the Crying
        Quote: Shuttle
        Why not send Sergei Kuzhugetovich to the Bundeswehr clinic


        Good idea! Send Sergey Kuzhugetovich.

        A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence. But you do both unnecessarily.
    2. Revival
      Revival 6 September 2020 22: 07 New
      0
      Send, can you?
      Let's wait!
      1. Arthur73
        Arthur73 7 September 2020 01: 20 New
        +1
        At home, in Germany, you wait.
      2. Shuttle
        Shuttle 8 September 2020 08: 11 New
        0
        Quote: Revival
        Send, can you?
        Let's wait!

        Sense of humor in first grade traded for cookies? It happens.
        1. Revival
          Revival 8 September 2020 09: 11 New
          0
          No, I just do not like couch dashing bragging, to the point and out of place
    3. New
      New Year day 7 September 2020 00: 14 New
      -5
      Quote: Shuttle
      Sergey Kuzhugetovich on a friendly visit?

      Another navel laughing
      Have you coped with hazing? Why couldn't the tankers hit the target on the Army 2020? laughing
      1. Moskovit
        Moskovit 7 September 2020 07: 15 New
        +3
        Listen, you have started a bacchanalia here, throwing mud at everything - Russian medicine, the army, the state. You take advantage of the fact that there are no doctors here. Besides, such a rare specialization. Actually, why should we believe the stream of your consciousness, supported by terms? I do not urge you to name your name, but at least your level in medicine
      2. Shuttle
        Shuttle 7 September 2020 14: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Silvestr
        Another navel laughing

        Six is ​​your number. laughing
        Quote: Silvestr

        Have you coped with hazing?

        Actually, yes.
        Quote: Silvestr

        Why couldn't the tankers hit the target on the Army 2020? laughing

        Because this is not a show, but a real competition. People are tense and tired, and their hands are shaking. That's why.
        Do you want a specific analysis? For example, do you remember how the weapon shook? The gyroscope was not connected according to the instructions. And that's all - an elementary human error.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 September 2020 20: 51 New
    +5
    According to the logic of the play, Navalny's death looms.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 21: 19 New
      +6
      Everything is more complicated. He was supposed to die in Russia, but ours unexpectedly agreed to transport, and now the Statesmen can only play the Skripal gambit.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 6 September 2020 20: 57 New
    +2
    he created a bulk Th? Why would he clean it up in Germany and so on? he is a famous scientist or a designer or a politician? he, as a politician, has 0 as a criminal record
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    1. Knell wardenheart
      Knell wardenheart 6 September 2020 21: 44 New
      -7
      You know, I sometimes read posts like yours and it seems to me that in the old theory of the 18th century about the fact that flies spontaneously arise from feces and garbage, that is. At least - you look at some people, it happens, and there is no other assumption about their origin, except for this. On you, for example.
      1. Operator
        Operator 6 September 2020 22: 06 New
        +2
        Thu, a fan of German assassins in white coats - followers of Mengele drew in. The BND officers are chemical terrorists who have used weapons of mass destruction against a Russian citizen.

        Your Angelka has already stuck her tongue in her ass, next in line is Yulka Anal and all the others.
  • Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 6 September 2020 21: 17 New
    +5
    These Navalny have already got it! Well, let them bring down from Russia and stink there! In the meantime, they live in Russia, let them be responsible for insulting veterans under the law. And when Navalny's wife says in her blog that she does not respect Roshal, the impudence of this chicken just infuriates! And what is positive here is how well the West fit in with Navalny. It is clear what the money is and where the information about corruption comes from.
  • iouris
    iouris 6 September 2020 21: 56 New
    0
    Roshal is not doing that. Russian doctors should be protected by the state, and it should also clarify unclear points, in particular, the police, the prosecutor's office, the investigative committee, counterintelligence and intelligence. And let them follow the appropriate procedures.
  • beeper
    beeper 6 September 2020 23: 25 New
    +4
    The relatives of the American son-in-law Yushchenko, who was “fatally poisoned with dioxin (then, in 2004, the British fake“ about the deadly newcomer "had not yet been invented), also behaved strangely and in every possible way opposed an objective study of the pathogenesis of the" poisoning ", and all the foreign and Ukrainian analyzes of the" poisoning victims " were quickly and very carefully destroyed!
    But at the same time there were suspicions about the "fake" American wife of the "third-year" VAYU, that she could "pry" her husband on the instructions of the American special services (in order to thereby give him the scandalous status of a "victim of the regime" before the elections and add "popularity" the people (mainly among the iodine-deficient marginals - "lohtorata" of Banderonazism) ") ?!
    Is it possible that the Russian wife of Leshik Nakhvalny was somehow involved in a sharp deterioration in his health, because she openly escalates the situation, does not behave like a loving wife and very strangely opposes authoritative proposals for an objective search and establishment of the truth ?! what
    IMHO
  • Klingon
    Klingon 6 September 2020 23: 41 New
    +6
    Quote: Harry Cuper
    Another silly comment. Of course, VVP personally did not add poison. But with his personal participation, today in Russia it is possible. Stretch your minds to understand such a simple thing

    Why bother so much with some complex component and unsafe in the use of BOV (I think that this is generally nonsense, any BOV kills for sure and it will not work just like that) if a person can be eliminated in any other, cheaper and more effective way? for example adjust an accident
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 7 September 2020 00: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: Klingon
      (I think that this is generally nonsense, any BOV kills for sure and it will not work out just like that) if you can eliminate a person in any other, cheaper and more effective way? for example adjust an accident


      Quite right. Anything from an explosion of household gas, a break in an elevator car, to a banal accident .. But that's just poisoning and even BOV. This is some kind of nonsense.
    2. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 7 September 2020 09: 36 New
      -1
      Quote: Klingon
      why bother so much


      For example, for naive citizens to write on the forums "it's not us, we guys are simple - we would run over with a tank, and that's it."

      Quote: Klingon
      any BOV kills for sure


      If you attended at least CWP lessons at school, you would know that the effect of BOV depends on the dose received, and an individual first-aid kit contains an antidote - the same atropine.
  • Alexy
    Alexy 7 September 2020 02: 07 New
    +3
    Relatives are also in the subject (i.e. accomplices), no matter how monstrous it sounds. Nobody needs what Roshal offered them, and this is obvious. They are very afraid that the truth will be revealed.
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 37 New
      10
      Quote: Alexy
      They are very afraid that the truth will be revealed.

      They don't need the truth. The truth can hit them very hard.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 7 September 2020 03: 36 New
    -1
    One of the versions. In short, an insulin coma. Undiagnosed diabetes. In Tomsk, Lechaim visited a club known for its energy drugs, and special people have already watched the video from the cameras of this club, which shows how Lechaim and his comrades are using some aspirin-ups. Further, a otkhodnyak, beating on the pancreas, and hello, mom Angela Aries. laughing laughing