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China's reusable spacecraft returns safely to Earth

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China's reusable spacecraft returns safely to Earth

The Chinese reusable experimental spacecraft, launched into space last Friday, returned safely to Earth and landed in a designated area. This is reported by the Chinese edition of Xinhua.


According to the newspaper, the reusable spacecraft, after two days of flight, successfully landed on the site intended for landing. It is noted that the experiment was successful, which means "China's breakthrough in the technology of reusable spacecraft."

After a two-day flight, the device successfully landed on a given site on September 6

- said in a statement.

The launch of the reusable spacecraft took place last Friday from the Chinese Jiuquan Cosmodrome in the Gansu province in the northwest of the country, in the Gobi Desert. The device was launched into orbit using the Changzheng-2F (Long March 2F) launch vehicle. The goals of the launch of the spacecraft in the China Corporation of Space Science and Technology (CASC) called the testing of technologies for repeated applications in space flights and the "peaceful exploration" of outer space.

Note that China announced the launch of a spacecraft into orbit three years ago, which "can fly like an airplane and will be reusable." The use of a reusable spacecraft will increase the frequency of launches and reduce their cost, Beijing said.
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  1. Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 6 September 2020 09: 04 New
    +8
    hmm, we walked around our "trampoline" at the turn, "how do you like Elon Musk?" repeat
    1. Civil
      Civil 6 September 2020 09: 28 New
      31
      The state approach to everything, in 60 years the MU-US desert has been turned into a huge oasis, in 30 years the standard of living has been raised to heights unattainable for us, and astronautics are developing at an accelerated pace. How do you like this _________ (suitable insert).
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 6 September 2020 09: 42 New
        20
        The standard of living you say? In cities, yes. But in the countryside, I would not say. But in any case, well done.
        1. Temples
          Temples 6 September 2020 09: 51 New
          -6
          Since there is no specifics about the ship and the method of landing ...
          Fuck it, the Chinese panda knows.
          Size, weight, type of fit ???

          The German grandma says that Krem poisoned the sisyan.
          But what really?

          And then the Chinese said that they had launched something. This something has already returned. And they can start something again.


          Was there a boy? wink
          1. mister-red
            mister-red 6 September 2020 10: 18 New
            +1
            I am a little confused by the following: a ship weighing about 20 tons (there was such information), but launched with the help of a rocket, which does not even lift 10 tons. Layout? Who knows?
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 6 September 2020 10: 30 New
              +8
              Quote: Temples
              Since there is no specifics about the ship and the method of landing, then
              .
              Was there a boy?

              The Chinese know how to keep secrets.
              The "boy" was, the Americans said that their radars saw this ship.
              And the photo is definitely the wrong ship. This is some kind of satellite, not a lander.
              1. Sergey39
                Sergey39 6 September 2020 13: 12 New
                +4
                Quote: Shurik70
                The boy "was,

                If there was, maybe it was not a "boy" at all, but a "girl"?
                1. military_cat
                  military_cat 6 September 2020 16: 10 New
                  -5
                  1) No evidence of flight was provided
                  2) There is no achievement in this, because Buran did this back in 1988
                  3) The flaw of the concept of reusability has been proven by Shuttles, the opposite is argued by charlatans who are not technical specialists
                  4) There are questions about economic efficiency, and accounting is classified, this is what scammers do
                  5) When people are launched, then we'll talk, but for now this is an action of very good PR people

                  Have you forgotten anything? You can go continue to kick the ox further.
              2. orionvitt
                orionvitt 6 September 2020 14: 34 New
                -1
                Quote: Shurik70
                The "boy" was, the Americans said that their radars saw this ship.

                What do they see? All the same, no specifics. Nobody really knows what they launched. And take the word, "in our club of gentlemen," as it is not customary for us.
          2. ccsr
            ccsr 6 September 2020 11: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Temples
            Since there is no specifics about the ship and the method of landing ...
            Fuck it, the Chinese panda knows.

            I agree with this approach, especially since no one knows how much it will cost to prepare such a ship for the second or fifth flight. With the shuttle, there was the same picture - continuous victorious reports from NASA, and as a result, the conclusion that this was initially a dead-end direction for the development of astronautics, because they did not take into account the minimum number of annual launches, and in the end everything turned out to be more costly. And two lost ships best of all speaks of what the cost of reusability at the present stage of astronautics.
            1. Wwk7260
              Wwk7260 6 September 2020 11: 38 New
              -3
              The shuttle was too good and too expensive, hence its "dead end" its carrying capacity turned out to be excessive, thanks to the rapid development of microelectronics in the United States, military and civilian satellites designed to launch from its board noticeably "lost weight" by the time of its operation, became more compact and lighter than calculated at the beginning of this program. At the same time, the ISS could not become what it is, if not the capabilities of the shuttles, and the Hubble telescope turned into space debris, its repair became possible thanks to the shuttle.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 6 September 2020 11: 53 New
                +8
                Quote: Wwk7260
                At the same time, the ISS could not become what it is, if not the capabilities of the shuttles,

                It’s interesting how we launched the Salyut station in 1971 without American shuttles, and I don’t even remember the Mir station - it was its experience that made it possible to create the ISS, and not the shuttle capabilities.
                Quote: Wwk7260
                and the Hubble telescope turned into space debris, its repair became possible thanks to the shuttle.

                You rush with the hubble as with a written sack - has it solved at least some problems of the real construction of space technology? And in general, why do we need it from a practical point of view - think about it, first.
                Quote: Wwk7260
                The shuttle was too good and too expensive

                Well, why hasn't such a rich country like the United States still returned to this program?
                1. Wwk7260
                  Wwk7260 6 September 2020 19: 31 New
                  +1
                  Compare "Salut" 1971, from the ISS, it's like the plane of the Wright brothers, compare with DC3 for example. Hubble is a world achievement, and it has served well in space exploration, and why NASA has not returned to the Shuttles is not the right question.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 7 September 2020 11: 29 New
                    0
                    Quote: Wwk7260
                    Compare "Salut" 1971, from the ISS, it's like the plane of the Wright brothers, compare with DC3 for example.

                    Nobody argues with this, but it was about our independent and successful withdrawal of orbital stations without the participation of American shuttles.
                    Quote: Wwk7260
                    Hubble is a world achievement, and it has served well in the study of outer space,

                    All this has nothing to do with rocketry - no need to mislead people with "world values" if only because they do not exist in nature. What did the hubble give to the same American blacks who are now smashing the cities of the States and demolishing monuments to their leaders?
                    Quote: Wwk7260
                    why NASA did not return to the Shuttles, the question is not at the right place.

                    I have no doubt, but any competent engineer can draw a conclusion himself, especially if he has extensive experience and practice even in a field far from rocket science.
            2. ZAV69
              ZAV69 6 September 2020 13: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: ccsr
              And two lost ships best of all speaks of what the cost of reusability at the present stage of astronautics.

              So much time has passed. Is technology really standing still? Maybe now reusability will come in
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 6 September 2020 17: 06 New
                0
                Quote: ZAV69
                Maybe now reusability will come in

                Maybe it will, but the reusability is then recoupable when the launches of the ships need to be carried out at least once a week, i.e. fifty launches per year. This was calculated long before the launch of the first shuttle. Do you think Americans are capable of this? They do not need so many flights even for commercial purposes, i.e. to carry tourists, which means that at the exit there are again continuous losses, which will lead to the curtailment of the program. And this even without the loss of the descent vehicles themselves, which in any case will not be all accident-free. Although in the future, in 15-20 years, it is quite possible that descent vehicles will replace single-shot launches - but this, again, only in a certain segment of space launches.
                1. ZAV69
                  ZAV69 6 September 2020 20: 02 New
                  +1
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Do you think Americans are capable of this? They do not need so many flights even for commercial purposes, i.e. to carry tourists, which means that at the exit there are again continuous losses, which will lead to the curtailment of the program.

                  The article is not about Americans but about China. No one knows what China has in mind, with such an economy they can spend as much on space as the rest combined. And they won't even break their heads about payback, they just bypass competitors through experience and no one will catch up with them. If not to Mars, then to the moons of Jupiter they will certainly be the fastest.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 7 September 2020 11: 39 New
                    -3
                    Quote: ZAV69
                    The article is not about Americans but about China. No one knows what China has in mind

                    The information in the article is not supported by anything - read it carefully and the comments of some knowledgeable people in this topic. Before the launch of "Buran", we also put a smaller copy of it into orbit, but in the end we still abandoned this program.
                    Quote: ZAV69
                    And they won't even break their heads about payback, they just bypass competitors through experience and no one will catch up with them.

                    Space technology is very expensive, so its losses cause not only image losses, but also huge financial losses, and even the Americans felt this with the shuttle. I don't think the Chinese authorities don't take this into account.
                    Quote: ZAV69
                    If not to Mars, then to the moons of Jupiter they will certainly be the fastest.

                    Tell me honestly, why do you personally want to rush to Mars? I do not need this at all, like the majority of the population of Russia. I am more afraid of the demographics in my country, and I would like our mothers and parents of underage children to be paid more, because the future of the country belongs to them, and not from whether we land first on another planet or not. We do not have the right to curtail military space, but the exploration of distant planets can wait - in the end, we have "Stirlitz" not extinct, and we will find out everything we need for very tiny money.
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          3. snake
            snake 6 September 2020 12: 08 New
            -1
            Quote: Temples
            And then the Chinese said that they had launched something.

            The Chinese are launching something, and we ... FIRST! SPACE! TV CHANNEL!
            It will show the activities of Roskosmos, and there will be everything about space too. Hoba!
            https://yandex.ru/turbo/ura.news/s/news/1052448372?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 6 September 2020 17: 10 New
              19
              THE FIRST! SPACE! TV CHANNEL!
              It will show the activities of Roscosmos ...

              Yeah ... to the incessant howl of circulars. And we will also build the main temple of "Sawpilkosmos", in which progress and its followers will be anathematized.laughing
              1. snake
                snake 6 September 2020 21: 58 New
                +3
                Yes, there is where to unfold in the field of degradation ... It will be like the Strugatskys in "It is difficult to be a god": - Literate? To count you! Do you write poems? On stake! Do you know the tables? You know too much!
          4. 210ox
            210ox 6 September 2020 14: 05 New
            +2
            Doubt? But I think that the Chinese goat's face in the end not only to our "trampoline" but also to Ilona as a result are. This is what good government policy means.
          5. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 7 September 2020 13: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Temples

            And then the Chinese said that they had launched something. This something has already returned. And they can start something again.

            I'm also at a loss - what is shown in the photo for the article? "It" can land without a parachute? The Chinese are dark. So what was the secret regime in the USSR, but "Buran" was shown on TV in all its glory. And here there is not even a normal photo, not to mention the video with the landing of the "miracle of Chinese technology."
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 6 September 2020 12: 28 New
          10
          Quote: zwlad
          The standard of living you say? In cities, yes. But in the countryside, I would not say.

          Oh! Let's not talk about the cities and countryside of China ... In Russia, everything is already adjusted and turkeys are sitting on fences instead of sparrows ... wassat
          Quote: zwlad
          But in any case, well done.

          It's enough!
          I am just offended for my country, which once set an example to the world, but backward, archaic China took it and made it ... Even with copies, albeit theft of technology (you might think everything was white and fluffy here), but did it .. And the world is watching this development with wide eyes, sometimes envious, sometimes trembling in horror at such a stunning pace.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 6 September 2020 15: 02 New
            -10
            If you continue to feed the pigeons and sparrows, they will soon overwhelm all these fences with their size and weight.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 6 September 2020 15: 23 New
              +8
              Quote: Vadim237
              If you continue to feed the pigeons and sparrows, they will soon overwhelm all these fences with their size and weight.

              I don’t go to feed pigeons, but I think that it’s better to feed pigeons and sparrows than to feed oligarchs, procreate thieving officials and indulge embezzlers ...
        3. iouris
          iouris 6 September 2020 13: 57 New
          +7
          Quote: zwlad
          The standard of living you say?

          What does the standard of living have to do with it? This is the level of mastery of advanced technology. When the USSR tested a thermonuclear bomb, no one asked what the standard of living in the USSR was.
          1. zwlad
            zwlad 6 September 2020 15: 55 New
            -1
            Read carefully the comment I commented on.
          2. Doliva63
            Doliva63 6 September 2020 18: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: iouris
            Quote: zwlad
            The standard of living you say?

            What does the standard of living have to do with it? This is the level of mastery of advanced technology. When the USSR tested a thermonuclear bomb, no one asked what the standard of living in the USSR was.

            And what was wrong with our standard of living?
      2. hhhhhhh
        hhhhhhh 6 September 2020 09: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        for 30 years we have raised the standard of living to unattainable heights for us

        What are you talking about? Have you been to China? The standard of living of the majority is very low.))) If we make it higher, then not everyone will have work.
        1. mister-red
          mister-red 6 September 2020 10: 39 New
          +4
          And it will not be enough, everyone is taking production out of there. Such a holiday could not go on for a long time. Difficulties await China. Although of course they are great, they used all the opportunities to the fullest.
          1. hhhhhhh
            hhhhhhh 6 September 2020 10: 43 New
            -3
            They have built a lot of things, but what do they need to maintain such an infrastructure? Hectares of domestic consumption they did not have time to transfer the economy.
        2. smart fellow
          smart fellow 6 September 2020 10: 42 New
          13
          From a 2018 article.
          The pension system in China began to take shape 20-30 years ago.
          The retirement age in China is 60 years for men, 50 years for women (55 years in civil service and state enterprises).
          In industries that are hazardous to health or engaged in heavy manual labor, men retire at 55, for women at 45. To receive an old-age pension, 10 years of work experience is enough.
          This year, it is planned to adopt a law on a gradual (over 10 years) reduction of the retirement age for men to 55 years.
          In 2017, old people in cities received an average pension of 2 yuan, or 000 rubles. In Beijing and Shanghai - 20 rubles.
          In 2018, pensions will be increased by at least 5.5%.
          Pension fund contributions: 20% of earnings (8% paid by the taxpayer, 12% - by the employer organization).
          Life expectancy in China: Men - 75 years. Women are 73 years old.
          https://echo.msk.ru/blog/pavelbasanets/2250144-echo/
          1. hhhhhhh
            hhhhhhh 6 September 2020 10: 47 New
            -6
            Old people go in for sports, and not how we drink?
            "in cities" - Beijing and Shanghai.))) The rest of the cities, and the village? The majority of the population cannot even buy Chinese goods sold from us. There are no goods for Europeans in stores for ordinary Chinese))) They did not have time to raise the level of consumption.
            "In 2017, old people in cities received an average pension of 2 yuan, or 000 rubles. In Beijing and Shanghai, 20 rubles." - so give out statistics on pensions of Russian officials, the picture is also colorful.)))
            1. smart fellow
              smart fellow 6 September 2020 10: 54 New
              12
              First, I'm not your reference agency. Interestingly, look for it yourself.
              The article deals with the average pensions of the population, and not individual categories of citizens.
              This year, China will get rid of poverty, and in Russia there are officially 20 million poor.
              I don’t understand what you mean by European goods, which are not available in “shops for ordinary Chinese”. In "shops for ordinary Europeans" they sell Chinese goods.
              1. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 6 September 2020 19: 20 New
                -5
                I visit China. China is more likely to get out of poverty before the moon.
                "The shops for ordinary Europeans" sell Chinese goods. " - they are for the Europeans, not for the Chinese.
            2. 210ox
              210ox 6 September 2020 14: 12 New
              +5
              Are you drinking? For example, I stopped seeing drunk people on the street. It is of course good that they began to drink less. But all the same, men die like flies. Maybe that's not the point? Yes, and please give out a pension to our privates. However, I already know. This is the advantage of the State over the liberal model of our economy (that is, the barrack).
              1. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 6 September 2020 19: 22 New
                -1
                Quote: 210ox
                Are you drinking?
                Since childhood, no.))) But not an athlete.))))

                Maybe small pensions are a punishment for us for complicity in the collapse of the USSR?
                1. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 7 September 2020 05: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: hhhhhhh
                  Maybe small pensions are a punishment for us for complicity in the collapse of the USSR?

                  And why did you participate?
                  1. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 08: 18 New
                    0
                    I was young, and you?

                    PS "And why did you participate?" - are you addressing me in the plural?)))
                    1. mat-vey
                      mat-vey 7 September 2020 15: 32 New
                      0
                      Quote: hhhhhhh
                      Maybe small pensions are a punishment for us for complicity in the collapse of the USSR?

                      Well, you wrote about some kind of "you" ... or we don't remember what we wrote ...
                      1. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 17: 10 New
                        0
                        Where were you on the night from 19 to 21?
                      2. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 17: 27 New
                        0
                        Well, sparkling humor fell ...
                        So if you are you, and you write about some kind of "you", the personality is perhaps split in two?
                      3. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 18: 26 New
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        So if you are you, and you write about some kind of "you", the personality is perhaps split in two?

                        How do you feel about capitalism?

                        “Where were you on the night from 19 to 21?” Is a standard signifier question. Did you defend the USSR?
                      4. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 18: 45 New
                        0
                        I also have a standard question - who are these "you" who participated ...
                      5. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 18: 47 New
                        0
                        Humor again?
                        Didn't do anything.
                      6. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 18: 53 New
                        0
                        Well, it’s interesting that you participated, and claims to others ... Maybe you need less on the Internet about your complicity ...
                      7. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 18: 56 New
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Well, it’s interesting that you participated, and claims to others ... Maybe you need less on the Internet about your complicity ...

                        Everyone wanted capitalism, and everyone became crying to live under capitalism.
                      8. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 19: 10 New
                        0
                        According to your logic, a child, a victim of a pedophile is as much an accomplice in a crime as the pedophile himself?
                        If you are so smart and perspicacious, why didn't you warn the country?
                      9. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 19: 18 New
                        0
                        The Ukrainians who took to the Maidan were accomplices of the banderization of Ukraine.

                        Quote: mat-vey
                        If you are so smart and perspicacious, why didn't you warn the country?
                        Everyone thinks they are the smartest. Ukrainians, now Belarusians.
                      10. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 19: 27 New
                        0
                        Again, everything - and why didn't you warn me ...
                      11. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 19: 48 New
                        0
                        Whom? When? What for!!!!
                        are you plural?
                      12. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 19: 55 New
                        0
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        s is plural?

                        That's right, but you constantly - "we are drinking", "for our complicity" ...
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        Whom? When? What for!!!!

                        Well, you already in 1991 knew where everything was going, why did you show human consciousness and did not explain to people how it would actually be ..
                      13. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 19: 57 New
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Well, you already in 1991 knew where everything was going, why did you show human consciousness and did not explain to people how it would actually be ..

                        What makes you think that? I was happy about capitalism, I made money on it, and now the younger, after grade 1, has nowhere to go to the summer camp.)))
                      14. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 20: 18 New
                        0
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Well, you already in 1991 knew where everything was going, why did you show human consciousness and did not explain to people how it would actually be ..

                        What makes you think that? I was happy about capitalism, I made money on it, and now the younger, after grade 1, has nowhere to go to the summer camp.)))

                        Well, these and all sorts of swindlers and enter ... You do not understand what you do not understand it will be better, and then realizing in hindsight why they didn’t defend, but for the protection of such people it was necessary to interrupt all Chubais and there would be no one to rely on - capitalism has taken over the country for more than one day, not even one year ..
                      15. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 20: 20 New
                        0
                        Have you been partisans for 30 years with a USSR passport? nu-nu.
                      16. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 20: 25 New
                        0
                        Well, not everyone is as smart as you ...
                      17. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 20: 39 New
                        0
                        What do you want Russia? Have you decided on your orientation? Will you go to the Maidan in Moscow?
                      18. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 7 September 2020 20: 48 New
                        0
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        Will you go to the Maidan in Moscow?

                        There was already a Maidan in Moscow - in 1991 ... With the final stage in 1993 ...
                      19. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 21: 41 New
                        0
                        Swamp has never been?
                      20. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 8 September 2020 05: 48 New
                        0
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        Swamp has never been?

                        Nu-nu .. All its life the sheep was afraid of wolves and the shepherd ate it ..
                      21. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 08: 25 New
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey

                        Nu-nu .. All its life the sheep was afraid of wolves and the shepherd ate it ..

                        I'm a Bolshevik, and who are you for? May 9, 1945 Victory Day?
                      22. mat-vey
                        mat-vey 8 September 2020 08: 28 New
                        0
                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        What makes you think that? I was happy about capitalism, I made money on it,

                        Quote: hhhhhhh
                        I'm a Bolshevik, and who are you for?

                        Nude ...
                      23. hhhhhhh
                        hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 08: 55 New
                        0
                        Quote: mat-vey
                        Nude ...

                        Why are you teasing? These are my words.
                        May 9, 1945 Victory Day?
              2. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 7 September 2020 21: 43 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                There was already a Maidan in Moscow - in 1991 ... With the final stage in 1993 ...

                Never again?
              3. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 05: 50 New
                0
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                Quote: mat-vey
                There was already a Maidan in Moscow - in 1991 ... With the final stage in 1993 ...

                Never again?

                What difference does it make to you who cuts you?
                PySy - And what about you in Khabarovsk, about the great teacher and denouncer?
              4. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 08: 24 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                What difference does it make to you who cuts you?
                PySy - And what about you in Khabarovsk, about the great teacher and denouncer?

                Whose side are you on?
              5. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 08: 29 New
                0
                Do you go to the polls? ...
              6. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 08: 51 New
                0
                Always taught children to do this.
                I understand the structure of Western democracy, and whoever has the most resources wins.
                But if you are a Citizen, it is your duty to go to the polls.
              7. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 08: 59 New
                0
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                Always taught children to do this.
                I understand the structure of Western democracy, and whoever has the most resources wins.
                But if you are a Citizen, it is your duty to go to the polls.

                Nu-nu ..... Another Bernstein admirer declared himself a Bolshevik ... although it was immediately clear ... By the way, in 1991 and 1993, many to whom “you” had claims to “defend socialism” just considered themselves citizens. ..
              8. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 09: 03 New
                0
                No, no, I'm not for Clinton even once.
                You break like blue in front of the commout. Whose will you be? For Yeltsia, Putin, Khurgal, Khakamada ...
              9. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 09: 05 New
                0
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                No, no, I'm not for Clinton even once.
                You break like blue in front of the commout. Whose will you be? For Yeltsia, Putin, Khurgal, Khakamada ...

                How else to communicate with a clown?
              10. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 09: 08 New
                0
                While I see in front of me a descendant of scoops living in Ukraine. Nothing more. Dreaming of leaving for the EU, but he can only go to the Russian Federation. Envious of me, for my Russian passport.
              11. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 09: 08 New
                0
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                While I see in front of me a descendant of scoops living in Ukraine. Nothing more. Dreaming of leaving for the EU, but he can only go to the Russian Federation. Envious of me, for my Russian passport.

                As I guessed with the clown ...
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              13. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 10: 24 New
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                Quote: hhhhhhh
                There is nothing to hide your Ukrainian passport.)))

                Your antielect is dripping straight from your ears ...
              14. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 10: 29 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                Your antielect is dripping straight from your ears ...

                You do not have this at all.
                An article about China. You have nothing to say here. I visit China, as well as the EU.
                May 9, 1945 Victory Day.
              15. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 10: 32 New
                0
                And what, and what?
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                May 9, 1945 Victory Day.

                For a patch with a tricolor, they were shot until May 9, and then they sent to Kolyma to bathe ...
                The Chinese Minister of Industry called Chubais, an ideologist and creator of reforms, a thief and did not shake hands ...
              16. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 11: 29 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                The Chinese Minister of Industry called Chubais, an ideologist and creator of reforms, a thief and did not shake hands.

                Laughed))) In China, the same reforms.))) Like Chubais.)))) This Chinese minister has not yet been shot for bribes?
              17. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 11: 33 New
                0
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                Quote: mat-vey
                The Chinese Minister of Industry called Chubais, an ideologist and creator of reforms, a thief and did not shake hands.

                Laughed))) In China, the same reforms.))) Like Chubais.)))) This Chinese minister has not yet been shot for bribes?

                Eh, you see not only a Bolshevik, but also an economist from God ...
              18. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 11: 35 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                Eh, you see not only a Bolshevik, but also an economist from God ...

                You still make fun of me about communism in China.)))
              19. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 11: 37 New
                0
                Yes, you can make you laugh with your finger ..
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                Has this Chinese minister been shot for bribes yet?

                Well, you "happen" - ask the Chinese.
              20. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 11: 55 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                Well, you "happen" - ask the Chinese.

                You won't believe it.))) I'm not Wikipedia.
              21. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 12: 04 New
                0
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                Quote: mat-vey
                Well, you "happen" - ask the Chinese.

                You won't believe it.))) I'm not Wikipedia.

                Naturally - you are a clown ..
              22. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 12: 14 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                Naturally - you are a clown ..

                For a fool, every smart person is a clown with fairy tales.)))
              23. mat-vey
                mat-vey 8 September 2020 12: 55 New
                0
                Quote: mat-vey
                Well, not everyone is as smart as you ...
  2. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 09: 24 New
    0
    Quote: mat-vey

    As I guessed with the clown ...

    You chose the clown for yourself in the presidential elections. Now you are trying to find humorists in everyone.))))
  3. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 10: 36 New
    0
    Quote: hhhhhhh
    I visit China, as well as the EU.

    Well, that's what the Maidans are for ...
  4. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 11: 27 New
    0
    Quote: mat-vey
    Well, that's what the Maidans are for ...

    For what?
  5. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 11: 31 New
    0
    What would be free in the EU ... or have you already forgotten why they jump on the Maidans?
  6. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 11: 33 New
    0
    Quote: mat-vey
    What would be free in the EU ... or have you already forgotten why they jump on the Maidans?

    To be able to go to farm.)))) A soviet dream come true. De ....
    Europe klopovnik. What to do there? to look at Arabs with blacks?
  7. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 11: 35 New
    0
    Quote: hhhhhhh
    To be able to go to work as a farm worker

    Well, at least he confessed why you "visit" the EU ...
  8. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 11: 36 New
    0
    Quote: mat-vey
    Well, at least he confessed why you "visit" the EU ...

    You don't want to admit that you work there.
  9. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 11: 39 New
    0
    Quote: hhhhhhh
    Quote: mat-vey
    Well, at least he confessed why you "visit" the EU ...

    You don't want to admit that you work there.

    Why should I?
    Quote: hhhhhhh
    all 30 years partisan with a USSR passport?
  10. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 11: 55 New
    0
    You're not interesting ...
  11. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 12: 05 New
    0
    Quote: hhhhhhh
    You're not interesting ...

    Yes, yes, that's why you "rode 90 miles to talk about indifference" - dashed off a bunch of posts ..
  12. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 12: 13 New
    0
    You first decide on the orientation ...
  13. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 12: 17 New
    0
    Quote: hhhhhhh
    What makes you think that? I was happy about capitalism, I made money on it,

    Quote: hhhhhhh
    I'm a Bolshevik, and who are you for?
    Did you decide yourself?
  14. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 12: 22 New
    0
    Why are you quoting my thoughts? You don't have yours.
  15. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 12: 26 New
    0
    Why are you flooding? You essentially have nothing to say?
  16. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 8 September 2020 12: 50 New
    0
    I already said, your intellect did not allow me to understand. I protected your brain from an explosion.))))
  17. mat-vey
    mat-vey 8 September 2020 12: 57 New
    0
    Quote: mat-vey
    Well, not everyone is as smart as you ...
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 6 September 2020 11: 24 New
    +8
    I was ... they are very low, it's like above the average in the Russian Federation ... if you remove the local flavor and cultural features, then they live much better on average than in the Russian Federation ...
  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 6 September 2020 13: 08 New
    -4
    The state approach to everything, in 60 years the MU-US desert has been turned into a huge oasis, in 30 years the standard of living has been raised to heights unattainable for us, and astronautics are developing at an accelerated pace. How do you like this _________ (suitable insert).


    Maybe you want to receive a pension from them?
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 September 2020 14: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Civil
    The state approach to everything, in 60 years the MU-US desert has been turned into a huge oasis, in 30 years the standard of living has been raised to heights unattainable for us, and astronautics are developing at an accelerated pace. How do you like this _________ (suitable insert).

    With normal and wise DOMESTIC POLICY, Zimbabwe can be made a leader in the space industry and the automotive industry in 50 years. It's just that our Kremlin is imprisoned for FOREIGN POLITICS, and our citizens will be trampled underfoot.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 6 September 2020 18: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: NEXUS
      Quote: Civil
      The state approach to everything, in 60 years the MU-US desert has been turned into a huge oasis, in 30 years the standard of living has been raised to heights unattainable for us, and astronautics are developing at an accelerated pace. How do you like this _________ (suitable insert).

      With normal and wise DOMESTIC POLICY, Zimbabwe can be made a leader in the space industry and the automotive industry in 50 years. It's just that our Kremlin is imprisoned for FOREIGN POLITICS, and our citizens will be trampled underfoot.

      This is a consequence of the fact that the state defends the interests of the ruling class, and they have all their savings there, so they have to deal with foreign policy laughing And here they have only labor force, hence the appropriate attitude.
  • Snail N9
    Snail N9 6 September 2020 09: 37 New
    23
    It is necessary to once again shake the "relics" of the "Federation", remind about the "robot Fedor", about the "atomic battery", build a dozen more churches and hold a "tight bike-run" - it can help to raise the authority of the Russian space industry among the population of their country and in the world .... Yes, I almost forgot, we still need to introduce censorship and introduce a ban on the publication of such news about the achievements of "other countries" as destroying faith in a "raw material superpower" that has risen from its knees, run by a cohort of Kremlin "effective managers."
    1. Wwk7260
      Wwk7260 6 September 2020 09: 55 New
      +7
      forgot to mention the "scientific companies" on the Black Sea coast, for the comfortable passage of military service by "mitrofanushki" of modernity "blue blood and white bone".
      1. Temples
        Temples 6 September 2020 10: 26 New
        -37
        Quote: Snail N9
        Gotta shake one more time

        Do you want a new mayor at the head of the country?
        So that he would send you and your accomplices manually a pit for a new starting table to dig.
        May I glorify the name of the leader who will love your children.
        And the money for the spaceplane will be collected by a friend of Urkogansky, taking away everything that the population of the country has.
        To the glory of the new party of skiers, the whole country will be given cancer.
        And you will shout cheers to the leader before the lights out.
        And if you don't shout, they will shoot you for anti-Sovietism.

        Are you masochits or what?
        The communists plundered the country.
        Millions of fellow citizens were killed.
        Divided our country into parts.
        We kindled wars on the territory of our Motherland.
        People were forcibly divided along ethnic lines.
        Hundreds of thousands of priests were killed.
        Destroyed churches.

        But in the end they sold like concentrates for three kopecks.


        And you pray to them for you have elevated the murderers to the rank of saints.

        Thank God that these scum are in the past.

        And our country is Russia, like a thousand years ago.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 6 September 2020 10: 38 New
          26
          Oooh Temples, how much anger has accumulated in you since October 1917 ...
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 6 September 2020 18: 52 New
            +6
            Quote: sabakina
            Oooh Temples, how much anger has accumulated in you since October 1917 ...

            This is not anger, this is a diagnosis laughing
        2. Vladimir Mazanov
          Vladimir Mazanov 6 September 2020 13: 57 New
          -9
          It's just that the last generation of communism has not died yet, so such dreams are still encountered. But they are slowly being covered with shields on Red Square. Then the leader is dismantled.
          1. Alex 2020
            Alex 2020 6 September 2020 15: 57 New
            +7
            Well, yes, and a statue of a zeroed man with his pants down will be put up so that those who are shitting on the USSR would kiss him in the bottom. Modern Russia is eating up the backlog of the USSR. There is nothing new in Russia except bloated bureaucracy and the like. There is basically no production. The machine tool industry has been destroyed. Allegedly domestic, we produce on imported machines and imported derivatives. All projects of equipment and weapons are Soviet projects taken from the shelves. From the developments of modern Russia, only yachts for show and basins for calibers.
            1. Vladimir Mazanov
              Vladimir Mazanov 6 September 2020 17: 40 New
              -5
              The point is not who to erect the statue, but the fact that no one needs to erect them, all the more so to turn the main square of the country into a crypt. History has known even greater figures, and nevertheless they are buried.
            2. Wolverine
              Wolverine 6 September 2020 20: 18 New
              +3
              Now Vadim237 from the site "made in China" throws links to new productions, which, upon closer examination, for the most part turn out to be warehouses of finished products, in which a couple of dozen Uzbek nameplates from "made in China" to "doneunas" are twisted
        3. Dude
          Dude 6 September 2020 16: 00 New
          +6
          Do you want a new mayor at the head of the country?
          That is, you a'priori admit that the "old" -so, urka? belay
      2. Snail N9
        Snail N9 6 September 2020 12: 23 New
        +4
        Thank you for the reminder about the Anapa sinecure for the "mitrofanushki". It is clear that the kids need a warm, comfortable place for "scientific research", well, not near Chelyabinsk or Perm, this business should be organized, in the end. It was only in the stupid Soviet era that research institutes were built near industrial centers to organize as quickly as possible the construction of experimental, pre-production weapons, make changes to them after testing, and so on. And modern young geniuses do not need this - they will immediately have ingenious developments that do not even require the construction of something there in the series, the idea itself will be enough, well, and the maximum of "full-scale models" so loved now.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 September 2020 15: 09 New
          -12
          "It was only in the stupid Soviet era that scientific research institutes were built near industrial centers to organize as quickly as possible the construction of experimental, pre-production weapons, make changes to them after testing, and so on." And now it's fucking not necessary all the connections through CAD with the Internet online and you can test the development on the same CAD system using a 3D model for all kinds of loads, and yes, all research institutes remained in place.
        2. Alex 2020
          Alex 2020 6 September 2020 15: 59 New
          +8
          And cartoons? More cartoons! Good and different! The main thing is the lack of taxes! laughing
      3. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 6 September 2020 13: 10 New
        -6
        forgot to mention the "scientific companies" on the Black Sea coast, for the comfortable passage of military service by "mitrofanushki" of modernity "blue blood and white bone".


        Do you have surnames, with periods of service?
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 6 September 2020 18: 55 New
          +7
          Quote: Interlocutor
          forgot to mention the "scientific companies" on the Black Sea coast, for the comfortable passage of military service by "mitrofanushki" of modernity "blue blood and white bone".


          Do you have surnames, with periods of service?

          Are you provoking "disclosure"? Not good. bully
    2. Klingon
      Klingon 6 September 2020 13: 21 New
      0
      we still have a stone rocket ... I just subscribed to the Roscosmos Instagram and now I unsubscribed because as soon as it causes irritation. I'm wondering, of course, Great Pu is watching all this, he himself is not offended that the "friend" has not done anything good except a trampoline, a stone rocket and loud statements ??
      although what am I talking about ... wassat
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 6 September 2020 15: 12 New
        -11
        In addition to space, Russia has other problems; space is not a priority now, and even more so, unlike the USSR, Russia does not participate in the space race and the rest of the races and will not participate in the next 10-15 years.
    3. Lexus
      Lexus 6 September 2020 18: 00 New
      19
      Yes, I almost forgot, we must also introduce censorship and introduce a ban ...

      It is imperative to "vaccinate" the population from the "pernicious influence of the decaying West." All, except for the "rowers", of course. After all, they are "Warriors of Light", carrying our material values, of course, to the enemy's camp, thus relieving us of the existing "temptations" and protecting us from the possible appearance of other "base temptations". bully winked

  • Souchastnik
    Souchastnik 6 September 2020 11: 49 New
    +6
    Rather, "how do you like Dmitry Rogozin?"
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 6 September 2020 14: 55 New
    -4
    It is noted that the experiment was successful, which means "China's breakthrough in the technology of reusable spacecraft"
    Elon Musk got 20 years in the USA for this, sold himself to the Chinese and worked for them at night (when it's night in the USA, it's day in China. Here's the inventor. angry ) smile
    Bypassed American fool goblins, well done!
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 6 September 2020 09: 05 New
    45
    It remains only to congratulate the Chinese and, sadly, to state their lag.
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 6 September 2020 09: 12 New
      +4
      Intoxicated Rogozin on soap.
      1. Gato
        Gato 6 September 2020 09: 25 New
        21
        Intoxicated Rogozin on soap.

        Will not help. It is necessary in China to ban the Communist Party and begin democratic reforms. wassat
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 6 September 2020 09: 31 New
          +3
          Now communist China will self-destruct and give away the laurels of the world's first economy.
          1. Gato
            Gato 6 September 2020 09: 35 New
            11
            There is nothing to do in space without democratic values am laughing
    2. nikvic46
      nikvic46 6 September 2020 10: 07 New
      -2
      Alexey: You shouldn't be upset here. Space exploration is extensive. And somewhere we are the first, and somewhere it sucks.
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 6 September 2020 11: 58 New
        +4
        Quote: nikvic46
        Alexey: You shouldn't be upset here. Space exploration is extensive. And somewhere we are the first, and somewhere it sucks.


        This is not "space exploration (peaceful)".
        This is the development and testing of advanced strategic weapons.
        The X37b is an orbital strategic bomber.
        The Chinese seem to have launched something similar.
        We can say that China is the second in this race. We haven't even got to the start yet.

        We have some interesting satellites "inspectors". But there is nothing for a cheap launch of nuclear warheads into orbit with a duty there for several years, maneuvering and returning the "payload" (do not leave it in orbit).
        1. ZAV69
          ZAV69 6 September 2020 13: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Pandiurin
          But there is nothing for a cheap launch of nuclear warheads into orbit with a duty there for several years, maneuvering and returning the "payload" (do not leave it in orbit).

          Strongly cheap? And how many warheads can they put into orbit? And will it make the weather a lot? x37 they actually have one. And this idea was described by R. Harline back in 1948 in the book "Space Patrol"
    3. Kerensky
      Kerensky 6 September 2020 12: 15 New
      -6
      How is it ?! We do not yet know what has returned there and whether it can be triggered one more time, but we are already grieving about our own lagging behind ... the mentality, however ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 09: 08 New
    13
    Well, now the Chinese ... who else is there in line? Saudis, Australians, Japanese? And Rogozin will transfer taxpayers' money to the trash and feed a pack of his effective managers? Vostochny cosmodrome failed with a bang, new launch vehicles - where? Where is our new ship? Well, a journalist cannot dispose of in such a technological industry. He just doesn't understand how it works ...
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 6 September 2020 09: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, a journalist cannot dispose of in such a technological industry.

      It does not depend on the profession, but on the person himself ...
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 09: 14 New
        +8
        Quote: mat-vey
        It does not depend on the profession, but on the person himself

        I disagree. Even on a collective farm, an agronomist is needed ...
        "Trouble, if the pesti shoemaker will start
        And to wear boots is a pastry ... "
        When Grandpa Krylov wrote, but it is actual ...
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 6 September 2020 09: 24 New
          +8
          There was such a "pastry" - Koshkin, he wanted to force himself and learned to be a designer .... and if the main warm place, then at least a diploma of an agronomist, at least a journalist ... but even an engineer will not play any role ..
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 6 September 2020 09: 29 New
          +9
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: mat-vey
          It does not depend on the profession, but on the person himself

          I disagree. Even on a collective farm, an agronomist is needed ...
          "Trouble, if the pesti shoemaker will start
          And to wear boots is a pastry ... "
          When Grandpa Krylov wrote, but it is actual ...

          JV Stalin was a half-educated clergyman by profession, but he led a huge country.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 6 September 2020 09: 40 New
            +2
            Yes, pyramidont, this is so, but do not forget that I.V. Stalin went through the school of underground work, right up to exile in Turukhansk, if I am not mistaken. tongue
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 6 September 2020 09: 43 New
              +8
              Clandestine work does not provide experience in running a country. Many "fiery revolutionaries" turned out to be worthless leaders when they reached high positions.
              1. Gato
                Gato 6 September 2020 09: 56 New
                +5
                Clandestine work does not provide experience in country leadership

                But it gives experience in managing an organization, i.e. a team of people in the most extreme situations. It differs from government management only in scale.
              2. mister-red
                mister-red 6 September 2020 10: 20 New
                +3
                Some people make a revolution, others reap the benefits. Each has its own specialization.
                1. Gato
                  Gato 6 September 2020 10: 40 New
                  0
                  Some people make a revolution, others reap the benefits.

                  ABOUT! By the way, I also remembered a couple of smart quotes:
                  1. "The tree of freedom should be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. This is its natural fertilizer.", T. Jefferson.
                  2. "What you fertilized with, it grew," folk wisdom
                  1. mister-red
                    mister-red 6 September 2020 10: 42 New
                    +1
                    I'm not sure if I quoted a quote, although it may be so.
                    The most famous quote on this occasion is that the revolution is devouring its creators.
                2. mat-vey
                  mat-vey 7 September 2020 05: 54 New
                  +1
                  Quote: mister-red
                  Some people make a revolution, others reap the benefits. Each has its own specialization.

                  It seems that Joseph Vissarionovich very much even made a revolution, and the whole Earth knows how the fruits were used (though some interpret it in their own way) ... Another thing is that during large-scale events there are many random people and no less than those who, although actively involved, but pursue their own goals, not goals proclaimed by the revolution ..
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 6 September 2020 09: 43 New
            +8
            Quote: Piramidon
            JV Stalin was a half-educated clergyman by profession, but he led a huge country.

            dropouts? laughing Yes, he is actually the most successful successor of the work of Jesus Christ
          3. paul3390
            paul3390 6 September 2020 11: 01 New
            13
            Comrade Stalin was engaged in self-education all his life. One of his libraries with his own handwritten notes has several thousand books. Moreover, I read not only Marxist literature.
          4. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 6 September 2020 11: 52 New
            +5
            Quote: Piramidon
            JV Stalin was a half-educated clergyman by profession, but he led a huge country.

            You can treat Stalin differently, he had a lot of mistakes, but he studied all his life. A lot of books with notes remained, some of the modern "educated" and a tenth of them have not read.
            Yes, there is such a moment that the lack of systemic education in childhood and adolescence can no longer be filled with anything. Only for this shortcoming of the Stalinist cadres we must thank the very spiritually-strong regime in the Russian Empire with its Pobedonostsevs and decrees about "cook's children."
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 6 September 2020 12: 40 New
              +3
              Quote: Narak-zempo
              Only for this shortcoming in the Stalinist cadres we must thank the same spiritually reassuring regime in the Russian Empire with its Pobedonostsevs and decrees about "cook's children".

              I came across one curious expression:
              Don't mistake "collective stench" for "unity of mind."
        3. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 6 September 2020 12: 36 New
          -1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          "Trouble, if the pesti shoemaker will start
          And to wear boots is a pastry ... "

          This is your gag ... Grandpa Krylov wrote:
          The trouble is, if the cobbler starts the cakes,
          And boots stitch pastry:

          laughing
      2. da Vinci
        da Vinci 6 September 2020 09: 26 New
        0
        We need to appoint sMerdyukov, see how he tries! wink
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 6 September 2020 09: 29 New
          +6
          Quote: da Vinci
          We need to appoint sMerdyukov, see how he tries! wink

          Already - "On May 8, 2019, he was elected Chairman of the Board of Directors of PJSC United Aircraft Corporation."
          1. da Vinci
            da Vinci 6 September 2020 09: 32 New
            +6
            No, no - to unite the UAC and Roscosmos. And if you add Rosatom, then you can attach Vasiliev ... tongue
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 6 September 2020 09: 35 New
              0
              Quote: da Vinci
              No, no - to unite the UAC and Roscosmos. And if you add Rosatom, then you can attach Vasiliev ... tongue

              No ... Let everyone be in their place, but under a single leadership ... if anything from above will help ..
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 6 September 2020 12: 45 New
          -1
          Quote: da Vinci
          We need to appoint sMerdyukov, see how he tries! wink

          SmERDYUKOVA, you say? laughing
          And if Rogozin is assigned a Hero of Russia? belay
          Let's wait until someone says that he is tired and leaves ... You see, on a new wave of leadership he will throw worthy and competent people. And then this shuffled deck is so worn out that you can't even see the suit ...
          1. Gato
            Gato 6 September 2020 14: 27 New
            0
            You look, on a new wave of leadership will throw worthy and literate.

            Optimistically, yes ... Did you catch the "carriage races" by age? Do you think it won't happen again?
    2. Gato
      Gato 6 September 2020 09: 32 New
      +7
      Well, a journalist cannot dispose of in such a technological industry

      If the purpose of this very technological industry is to make a profit, then it can. A journalist can, and a clown can too. And if you need to go, and not "checkers" - then another matter.
    3. askort154
      askort154 6 September 2020 09: 48 New
      +4
      Mountain shooter ..... And Rogozin will transfer taxpayers' money to the trash and feed a pack of his effective managers

      Since childhood, Korolev was a fan of Tsiolkovsky, and then when he began to translate his theory into reality, he was classified, before Gagarin's flight.
      Ragozin, profile profession - journalist. And the journalist's credo is to be constantly on the "hearing", as they say now, is being promoted.
      What breakthroughs can we expect when the most advanced technological direction in the country - Roscosmos, is run by a journalist ?! hi
    4. D16
      D16 6 September 2020 10: 30 New
      +3
      Where is our new ship?

      What does the old one do not suit you? Moreover, it can be called old conditionally. It is constantly being upgraded.
      new launch vehicles - where?

      Again, why don't you like Alliances with Protons? It would be that they would have been mass-produced long ago with heavy-superheavy carriers. The carrier is just a tool for the task. No task, no tool.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 10: 36 New
        0
        Quote: D16
        Again, why don't you like Alliances with Protons? It would be that they would have been mass-produced long ago with heavy-superheavy carriers. The carrier is just a tool for the task. No task, no tool.

        A task? The task is a station on the Moon, as an outpost of deep space! And a permanent station in orbit for intermediate supplies. Interchange, so to speak ...
        1. D16
          D16 6 September 2020 11: 19 New
          0
          And what to do on the moon?
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 11: 44 New
            0
            Quote: D16
            And what to do on the moon?

            Astronomy, science, spaceport for launching ships into deep space. Obtaining helium-3 as a raw material for a "pure" thermonuclear (for the Earth) ... Many electronics industries, growing crystals for it - but you never know what fantasy will work for ... Humanity must leave the cradle ... otherwise some decent the cobblestone can swat us like ants ...
            1. Reviews
              Reviews 6 September 2020 13: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              Humanity must leave the cradle ... otherwise some decent cobblestone can swat us like ants ...

              In-in. Moreover, an insignificant cobblestone. On a cosmic scale.
            2. D16
              D16 6 September 2020 15: 54 New
              +1
              Astronomy

              Hubble will disagree with you. Why drag him to the moon?
              spaceport for launching ships into deep space

              Why do it on the moon? There is no magnetic field to shield us from solar and galactic radiation. There is, though small, but the force of gravity. Collect ships on Earth LEO and start wherever you want. Why drag all this stuff to the moon?
              helium-3 as raw material for "pure" fusion (for the Earth)

              Before making a cart, it would be nice to reinvent the wheel. I'm not talking about how to make it. lol
              manufacturing electronics, growing crystals for it - but you never know

              It's cheaper in Taiwan laughing ... But seriously, it can be done in much more comfortable conditions in Earth's orbit under the cover of its magnetic field.
              otherwise some decent cobblestone can swat us like ants ...

              To die on the Moon or Mars from radiation?
            3. Wolverine
              Wolverine 6 September 2020 20: 34 New
              +1
              Forgot about the military component. What do you think is easier: to launch 10 tons to the Moon, for example, or to throw the same 10 tons from the Moon's orbit towards the Earth at a speed of 2+ space at the end point? As soon as the Americans settle there, they will wipe themselves out with all treaties not to place weapons in outer space, including weapons of mass destruction. I wonder how accommodating the Kremlin dreamers will be if they are threatened with a couple of megatons and several tons from above at a speed of 2+ space? No missile defense system and a bunker will be saved from such
          2. aleks26
            aleks26 6 September 2020 13: 37 New
            -3
            Quote: D16
            And what to do on the moon?

            Mountain shooter ...waste taxpayers' money and feed a pack of effective managers

            Is there a lot of money?
            Mountain shooter ... Astronomy, science, spaceport for launching ships into deep space. Obtaining helium-3 as a raw material for "pure" fusion (for the Earth) ... Many electronics industries, growing crystals for it - but you never know what fantasy will work for ... Humanity must leave the cradle ...

            Either he re-read the fantasies, or the political officer for life.
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 6 September 2020 15: 19 New
            0
            The extraction of rare earth metals on the Moon - Russia has already lost in fact, because we do not have any work on a reusable interplanetary cargo system and in this decade no one will be engaged in it, unlike the same USA where Musk's office is already engaged in it.
            1. D16
              D16 6 September 2020 15: 33 New
              +1
              Mining of rare earth metals on the moon

              Why did you decide that they are there? Did someone drill deeper than 10cm?
              We do not have any work on a reusable interplanetary cargo system and no one will be doing it this decade

              Work on a space tug and a megawatt power module is underway. The cooling system was recently tested. https://www.vesti.ru/article/1731496
              Musk's office is already in full swing.

              I don't know what Musk's office is doing there, but they safely closed their project of an interplanetary spacecraft with a nuclear reactor. Do you think they will carry ore on kerosene stoves? laughing
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 6 September 2020 16: 04 New
                +3
                "Why did you decide that they are there? Someone drilled deeper than 10cm?" The fact that they are there says that the Moon has been bombarded by meteorites and asteroids, including iron ones, for billions of years, and given the fact that the Moon has very weak gravity and there is no soil erosion, all these billions and trillions of tons of material are on the surface, but at the expense of a nuclear installation in the United States, they have already made one per 10 kilowatts; now they are doing another for the future lunar base, fossils from the moon can be transported with the help of ordinary liquid-propellant engines - the distance allows.
                1. D16
                  D16 6 September 2020 17: 48 New
                  -2
                  including iron

                  Is iron deficient on earth and is it cost-effective to carry it to Earth on chemical rockets? smile
                  at the expense of a nuclear installation in the United States, they have already made one for 10 kilowatts; now they are doing another for the future lunar base

                  I am not writing about a stationary reteg, with thermal emission conversion of heat into electricity, but about a TRANSPORTATION-energy module of a megawatt class. It will be the power plant of an interplanetary spacecraft flying dozens of times faster than kerosene stoves.
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 6 September 2020 20: 29 New
                    0
                    "Iron meteorites" These are generalizing concepts. In fact, one asteroid may contain most of the periodic table rhodium iridium platinum osmium titanium, etc. - millions and billions of tons.
                    1. D16
                      D16 6 September 2020 20: 47 New
                      +1
                      Then it is better to visit the asteroid belt and check it out with a space tug than to look for debris scattered across the moon? Did you find a lot of rhodium-iridium in the lunar soil?
                2. vadimtt
                  vadimtt 7 September 2020 09: 46 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  it is possible to carry with the help of conventional rocket engines

                  Why is it so expensive and difficult to waste fuel for them? Electromagnetic catapult made in the form of a monorail. Extremely reliable, cheap and cheerful. Atmosphere is zero, and gravity is not much more hi
                  According to old calculations dating back to the 70s, no more than 10-15 kW / h of electricity is needed to return a ton of cargo from the Moon. And now, with advanced power electronics and controllers, it will be even more economical.
        2. D16
          D16 6 September 2020 16: 05 New
          +1
          The task is a station on the Moon, as an outpost of deep space!

          Any Voyager-Hayabuses somehow managed without a station on the Moon. What is its meaning if everything has to be dragged there from the Earth anyway.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 6 September 2020 17: 14 New
            -2
            Quote: D16
            What is its meaning if everything has to be dragged there from the Earth anyway.

            You are a realist, and therefore you perfectly understand that nonsense about lunar stations can only be heard from amateurs, because if an intermediate launch is used, then the assembly is much cheaper to carry out in near-earth orbit.
      2. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 6 September 2020 11: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: D16
        Again, why don't you like Alliances with Protons?

        As if the Protons have big problems - there is nowhere to launch them, and production is stopped.
        1. D16
          D16 6 September 2020 13: 04 New
          -1
          The NNP produced by the Protons should end simultaneously with the possibility of launching heptyl rockets from Baikonur.
          1. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 6 September 2020 13: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: D16
            The NNP produced by the Protons should end simultaneously with the possibility of launching heptyl rockets from Baikonur.

            Right.
            And after that there will be no Protons.
            What instead?
            1. D16
              D16 6 September 2020 15: 24 New
              +2
              What instead?

              Angara, Soyuz-5, on the basis of which a very heavy rocket can be assembled.
              1. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo 6 September 2020 15: 28 New
                +2
                Quote: D16
                Angara, Soyuz-5, on the basis of which a very heavy rocket can be assembled.

                The Proton was a fairly commercially successful rocket. And what about the Angara?
                Recently there was a buhurt about the announced price of the "product" in the series (which is not yet in fact).
                With what will we win back the launch market?
                1. D16
                  D16 6 September 2020 16: 20 New
                  +1
                  With what will we win back the launch market?

                  Why do we need to win back the launch market by operating below cost when we can focus on our own needs? Perhaps you should find a balance between carts and horses and invest in carts? laughing
    5. slipped
      slipped 6 September 2020 12: 17 New
      -3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, now the Chinese ... who else is there in line?


      And what about the Chinese? Have you reached the level of the beginning of the 80s in our astronautics? laughing

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The Vostochny cosmodrome failed with a crash,


      The second stage is under construction for a heavy carrier, in the fourth quarter the next launch from the first.

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      new launch vehicles - where?


      "Angara-A5" is preparing for the November launch at the Plesetsk cosmodrome, elements of "Soyuz-5" are undergoing bench tests - the first launch of the rocket in 2023.

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Where is our new ship?


      In production. Launch in 2023 on the A5 from the Vostochny cosmodrome, a launch pad is being built for this.

      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      He just doesn't understand how it works ...


      Most likely you are the one who does not understand. laughing
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 13: 18 New
        -1
        Quote: slipped
        Most likely you are the one who does not understand.

        Or maybe not just me? Serious executives don't throw "pretty phrases" ... Have you seen Chemizov from Rostec on TV for a long time? And his corporation is much cooler. Or some kind of chatter from Manturov?
        1. slipped
          slipped 6 September 2020 14: 27 New
          -2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Or maybe not just me? Serious leaders do not throw "pretty phrases" ...


          Are you talking about a trampoline? So he said everything right - in October another launch from the Americans from the "trampoline". And not only the Americans, the Arabs, too, will be thrown into orbit by a "trampoline", or rather their apparatus.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 14: 53 New
            -1
            Quote: slipped

            Are you talking about a trampoline? So he said everything right - in October another launch from the Americans from the "trampoline". And not only Americans, Arabs

            I agree. I see you are a professional in space. Looked at your comments. hi
      2. Wolverine
        Wolverine 6 September 2020 20: 46 New
        0
        Well, when all this flies - then you will fill up the forum with spam. It seems that they said so about the ever-memorable Mask, no?
        And do not confuse the achievements of the USSR with the achievements of the Russian Federation - they were two different countries. Your leaders of the USSR are pouring slops, so do not cling to the achievements of a more developed civilization that has sunk into oblivion. Your achievements - 20+ years of development of the Angara, the Science model still lying on the ground and the model of the Federation - all
        1. slipped
          slipped 6 September 2020 22: 23 New
          -3
          Quote: Wolverine
          Well, when all this flies - then you will fill up the forum with spam.


          The launch of the domestic spacecraft Soyuz MS-17 with the next crew on the ISS, in which, for very big money, the American astronaut is flying is scheduled for October 14. And on October 16, the partner company Arianspace with the help of the domestic Soyuz-2ST-A launch vehicle is scheduled to launch the Arab Falcon Eye 2 spacecraft. What kind of spam is this? laughing This is just information for your information and nothing more. laughing

          Quote: Wolverine
          And do not confuse the achievements of the USSR with the achievements of the Russian Federation - they were two different countries.


          Wow. Direct credit for adequacy. laughing

          Quote: Wolverine
          Your leaders of the USSR are pouring slops, so do not cling to the achievements of a more developed civilization that has sunk into oblivion.


          From the ruins? Clear.

          Quote: Wolverine
          Your achievements - 20+ years of development of the Angara, the Science model still lying on the ground and the model of the Federation - all


          Horror horror, such a dunno is straight. laughing ISS, hanging over your head for twenty years with your teeth. lol

          By the way, about "Angara" and "Science", it is somehow outdated - they have already been delivered to cosmodromes and are preparing for launches soon - in November and April, so you will have to delete these lines from the manuals. laughing
  • Mytholog
    Mytholog 6 September 2020 09: 10 New
    13
    The Chinese can only be congratulated.
    When people declare little and do a lot, the result appears.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 September 2020 09: 16 New
      +9
      Onizh also the corrupt officials, under the panfares let down, as grit. Everything is very tough!
  • impostor
    impostor 6 September 2020 09: 22 New
    +5
    Couldn't our top management in space be sent to practice in China? Only they all need to be given a reminder that, according to local customs, if something goes wrong, then the bill for the bullet is sent to the family.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 6 September 2020 09: 43 New
      +6
      Wait .. ours will also fly .. As they insure for a tidy sum, it will fly .. but so low, and not far .. In order not to prove reusability .. It is much easier to change concepts, develop projects for billions, for which you do not have to answer, and draw in front of the public the rosy perspectives of the grandiose bright future of Russian space ... Of course, there are objective reasons for everything .. - if a device or device has been lying in the hangar for decades, the capacitors will inevitably dry out, the seals will become unusable, the insulation and contacts will oxidize .. it will become obsolete hardware and software .. And it's easier to assemble a new module than to change everything in the old bank .. but as it turned out, you also need to be able to do a new bank .. And the Chinese ... what are the Chinese? They have their own electronics, there are enough engineers and specialists ... money again, they also have it and they do not steal it so brazenly .. Agree that our role on the same ISS is maintenance in essence ... Our modules at the station are technical, not scientific, trucks with waste and resources, we drive, but we import personnel .. As the French used to say - satellite builders .. - Here is the power frame and energy you have - the best, and the filling - you can't look without tears ..)) I am glad that the monopoly the end of reusable space flights. This means that lunch will go faster for the development of near-earth space .. And then the battle for the Moon is not far off ..
    2. Rubi0
      Rubi0 6 September 2020 09: 45 New
      -1
      Yesterday, the current was outraged that Zvezda took over the experience of China and built a dry dock, so I think even if they make their reusable ship with the help of China, they will still be dissatisfied
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 6 September 2020 09: 38 New
    +3
    It would be interesting to see a photo of their shuttle and estimate the size.
    The Chinese did not give a photo of the start. The shuttle was probably attached to the top of the rocket without a cap. Open.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 September 2020 15: 23 New
      0
      I am more than sure he will be an exact copy of the X 37.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 6 September 2020 09: 39 New
    -3
    After a two-day flight, the device successfully landed on a given site on September 6

    There is also a lot of things written on the fence, and there is firewood .........
    As a rule, all states supply their successes with videos with a winning text, and China is no exception, but this time another success turned out to be a small test on the Internet. Maybe not everything is so wonderful?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 6 September 2020 11: 39 New
      +3
      This is the first flight of either a demonstrator or a prototype of their military unmanned shuttle. When was the X37 declassified there?

      Well, the Americans, if they noted something, would now inflate, and so fixed the withdrawal of the object
      46389 / 2020-063A: 332 x 348 km x 50.202 °, 91.32 min, 2020-09-04 12:05:41
  • Old partisan
    Old partisan 6 September 2020 09: 42 New
    +1
    Well done the Chinese!
    And for us a taxi, a taxi is inexpensive to the ISS and a trampoline for Rogozin.
  • Old partisan
    Old partisan 6 September 2020 09: 43 New
    +1
    But we have overtaken Zimbabwe in space exploration!
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 6 September 2020 09: 44 New
    0
    yes, without much pomp they are slowly moving forward, the movement forward is clearly visible, and our great managers have movement in ...
  • Essex62
    Essex62 6 September 2020 09: 44 New
    +4
    Chur us! What space shuttle? Temples must be built, churches ...
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 6 September 2020 09: 55 New
      -2
      First you need to create an economy, efficient factories and factories. And the money for the Temples in comparison with this is a penny. The money that goes to the temples cannot be used to build spaceplanes.
      And yes, many older people need churches much more than rockets. And they are "we" too.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 6 September 2020 12: 49 New
        +4
        Before talking about the "need for temples," you must first of all at least read the Holy Scripture - the New Testament. And there the Savior says in his sermon about the following: "Do not build me earthly palaces, but build me temples of heaven ... for my temple will be in your heart ... do not believe the interpreters, sorcerers and Pharisees who will preach on my behalf. ... for with these speeches they will acquire food and wealth for themselves .... "Many old people are in a dire financial situation and I have not seen that our" new "church would build at least one almshouse to charity the orphan and the poor.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 6 September 2020 17: 19 New
          -4
          Quote: Snail N9
          Many old people are in dire financial straits and I haven’t seen that our "new" church would build at least one almshouse to help the orphan and the poor.

          I'm not a believer, but for the sake of objectivity, we must still remember that the church took an active part in the creation and financing of hospices and other social assistance facilities:
          The social ministry of the Church in post-Soviet Russia began to revive in the 90s of the XX century with the activities of the brotherhood of St. Anastasia the Patterner in St. Petersburg and the St. Dimitry Sisterhood in Moscow.

          Today the social ministry of the Church is:
          over 500 charity groups and volunteer services;
          more than 150 sisterhoods of mercy in Russia and about 60 sisterhoods in Belarus and Ukraine;
          more than 100 orphanages;
          more than 30 almshouses;
          more than 80 temporary homes and social hotels;
          more than 30 rehabilitation centers for drug addicts;
          11 homeless shelters and 3 mobile homeless services;
          more than 30 maternity protection centers.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 September 2020 15: 25 New
      -5
      The government does not allocate money for churches - they are built on donations.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 7 September 2020 10: 48 New
        +1
        No matter how much you feel sorry for the people, they donate priests to Bentley! And those vodara and soggy, in the post they eat. You at least take a look at the official figure of the cost of the extreme construction of a religious building. This is how much should the population, half consisting of atheists, be thrown off in order to build and maintain it?
  • yfast
    yfast 6 September 2020 09: 47 New
    0
    Once - not many times yet ...
  • Reviews
    Reviews 6 September 2020 09: 50 New
    -2
    Do you bet?
    1. "BOR"?
    2. X-38?

    :)
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 6 September 2020 09: 52 New
    -1
    How did you sit down? Airplane or vertical missile?
    ..
    Even you wrote a proclamation. Without any details.
    1. smart fellow
      smart fellow 6 September 2020 11: 00 New
      0
      He sat down on the landing pad. So the spaceplane. If by parachute like a normal descent vehicle, then the landing pad is not needed.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 6 September 2020 09: 58 New
    0
    So they waited, the discoverers of space, damn it ........ the Chinas are ahead ........ (((
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 September 2020 10: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Alien From
      So they waited, the discoverers of space, damn it ........ the Chinas are ahead ........ (((

      According to legends and legends, the Chinese invented the rocket. hi
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 6 September 2020 10: 49 New
        0
        There is such a thing ....))) but dear Yuri Alekseevich Gagarin is definitely ours! hi
        1. aleks26
          aleks26 6 September 2020 13: 49 New
          -2
          Quote: Alien From
          There is such a thing ....))) but dear Yuri Alekseevich Gagarin is definitely ours!

          Just like BURAN, so are the annual manned flights to the ISS, and much more. And yes, to create and land BURAN in automatic mode 40 years ago, and to create and land a spaceplane now, these are two big differences. Today, landing a spaceplane on an airplane is a trivial task, much like landing a drone. So there is nothing to start with.
          1. Wolverine
            Wolverine 6 September 2020 20: 52 New
            +1
            If everything is so trivial, then what cannot modern Russia even create a reusable capsule-type ship?
            1. aleks26
              aleks26 7 September 2020 13: 13 New
              0
              Quote: Wolverine
              If everything is so trivial, then what cannot modern Russia even create a reusable capsule-type ship?

              Is he so badly needed? Is it burning straight? This is, firstly, and secondly, the conversation was about the implementation of the landing by plane, and not about the whole project.
  • grandfather_Kostya
    grandfather_Kostya 6 September 2020 10: 08 New
    0
    I did not find pictures with the landing, it's not fair.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 6 September 2020 10: 20 New
    +3
    Interestingly, are we still ahead of the rest of the world in ballet, or are victories planned for the 30s there too?
    1. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs 6 September 2020 10: 33 New
      +2
      Ballet has long been divided into classical and modern. And the production is mostly contemporary. The Bolshoi Theater does not go on tours every year.
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 6 September 2020 12: 52 New
      +3
      Volochkova shows her boobs on Instagram, so all the rules, we can still.
      1. aleks26
        aleks26 6 September 2020 13: 51 New
        0
        Quote: military_cat
        Volochkova shows boobs on instagram

        We moved smoothly from questions about astronautics to the question of SISEC, well, how could we do without them.
        1. Dikson
          Dikson 7 September 2020 08: 05 New
          0
          It's my fault ... - I remembered something a long time ago about rockets and ballet ...
  • gatamelata
    gatamelata 6 September 2020 10: 27 New
    -2
    I just did not understand one thing. Is Tykunaft getting in there or is it a robot?
  • Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 6 September 2020 10: 31 New
    +5
    Now we will wait for a similar thing from India, then from Iran, from Turkey, from Brazil and so on. Nobody expects anything from Russia. Our grandchildren will already learn in their textbooks that the first cosmonaut on the planet was Alan Shepard. And perhaps even a Chinese, unknown to anyone. It depends who is going to write this tutorial.
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 29 New
      +8
      Quote: Jurkovs
      Nobody expects anything from Russia.

      What can we expect with such leadership of Roscosmos? New statements about the trampoline in the telegram? The leadership must be changed, effective managers must be removed before they finally ruin our space program.
  • slipped
    slipped 6 September 2020 12: 22 New
    -6
    The professional mourners came running again. laughing Bored, girls. lol
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 6 September 2020 16: 56 New
      +3
      Well, should you be a professional patriot for a small price list in sadness.
      1. slipped
        slipped 6 September 2020 18: 16 New
        -3
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Well, should you be a professional patriot for a small price list in sadness.


        What, son, exploded? it happens. laughing Wipe down.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 6 September 2020 19: 46 New
          +1
          I'm glad you're doing well. If only it was still so good in astronautics. But so far there are only trampolines.
          1. slipped
            slipped 6 September 2020 20: 17 New
            -3
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            I'm glad you're doing well.


            I doubt it. laughing Wiped it off already? Cry no more baby.

            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            If only it was still so good in astronautics. But so far there are only trampolines.


            The next trampoline launch for people like you is very soon. laughing
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 6 September 2020 20: 22 New
              0
              Quote: slipped
              Next trampoline start for people like you

              For me it is not necessary. Just do it. And while you have flights mainly in an interview with Rogozin. We have already mastered Mars there and will soon be carrying out interstellar flights. In general, remember the saying about the skin of an unkilled bear. Well, you understand.
              1. slipped
                slipped 6 September 2020 21: 59 New
                -2
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                For me it is not necessary. Just do it.


                We do this regularly.

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                And while you have flights mainly in an interview with Rogozin.


                Yes, I do not want to laughing Nine successful launches of satellites, cargo and manned spacecraft this year do not count? lol

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                We have already mastered Mars there and will soon be carrying out interstellar flights.


                You messed up laughing Musk has this nonsense laughing And we have pragmatic work.

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Well, you understand.


                Baby, go learn lessons, Russian too laughing
  • fa2998
    fa2998 6 September 2020 12: 35 New
    +1
    Something the Chinese were too clever with secrecy! Tomorrow they will say that they sent their astronauts to Mars or launched a "death star". True achievements are supported by evidence, this is an advertisement of their power. Some doubts are tormenting! hi what
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 6 September 2020 13: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      Something the Chinese were too clever with secrecy! Tomorrow they will say that they sent their astronauts to Mars or launched a "death star". True achievements are supported by evidence, this is an advertisement of their power. Some doubts are tormenting! hi what

      The internet spoiled you. Earlier there would have been an article in Pravda or People's Daily, and enough to be believed. And now everyone is shouting - "Video to the studio, otherwise I won't believe it." But your "believe-do not believe" is absolutely on the drum for the Chinese. They are doing their job, despite the comments of skeptics.
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  • pleschakovai
    pleschakovai 6 September 2020 12: 40 New
    0
    Well done, friends, I congratulate you !!! And it is not necessary for anyone who does not get to know something, enough of what was reported !!! Everything has its time. wink love drinks
  • certero
    certero 6 September 2020 13: 47 New
    0
    Well, at least one photo or video of this reusable ship
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 6 September 2020 14: 09 New
    -1
    Proa throw off the next TRAMPOLINE.

    Can't offer to buy in China? Immediately a batch.?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 September 2020 15: 28 New
      -1
      Roscosmos was cut off funding for 150 billion - so there won't be enough money for Trampoline.
      1. slipped
        slipped 6 September 2020 18: 28 New
        -3
        Quote: Vadim237
        Roscosmos was cut off funding for 150 billion - so there won't be enough money for Trampoline.


        Don’t lie that it’s not enough - our "trampoline" has been working successfully for a long time. laughing And we will take those 150 billion from extra-budgetary funds - there are some. lol
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 September 2020 20: 31 New
          0
          I'm talking about the new "Trampoline" and not about the old one.
          1. slipped
            slipped 6 September 2020 22: 02 New
            -4
            Quote: Vadim237
            I'm talking about the new "Trampoline" and not about the old one.


            And now there are even two new ones in production. laughing Although, however, the old one has not yet said everything.
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 6 September 2020 16: 17 New
    0
    here it is the real triumph of socialism ..., Stalin's cause lives on and wins ... but in China, Mao was right ... And in Russia they smoke bamboo ...
  • NF68
    NF68 6 September 2020 16: 26 New
    0
    The Chinese are not exactly asleep. They don't even doze.
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 29 New
      10
      They just do their job and want to see their country as a space power.
  • vadimtt
    vadimtt 7 September 2020 09: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: slipped

    And what about the Chinese? Have you reached the level of the beginning of the 80s in our astronautics? laughing

    The problem is that they have reached and moved on.
    And we are trudging in the opposite direction, and moreover, it seems, we want to start running.
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 28 New
      +9
      Quote: vadimtt
      And we are trudging in the opposite direction

      We don't weave at all. We just use developments from the times of the USSR, while other countries are moving forward.