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Germany demanded action from Russia in connection with the Navalny case

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Germany demanded action from Russia in connection with the Navalny case

Germany expects Russia "in the coming days" to act in connection with the incident with opposition leader Alexei Navalny, otherwise retaliatory measures will be taken. This was stated by Foreign Minister of Germany Heiko Maas.


According to the head of the German Foreign Ministry, the "attack" on Navalny was carried out with the use of "a prohibited lethal chemical warfare agent." In this regard, Moscow must provide clarifications in the coming days, otherwise Berlin will discuss the use of retaliatory measures. At the same time, Maas, answering the question of how sure he is that the Russian state is behind the situation with Navalny, said that "there are many instructions for this, and therefore now the Russian side is facing a challenge."

Ultimatums don't help anyone move forward. But if no explanations follow from the Russian side in the coming days, we will have to discuss the answer with our partners

- quote the German media his words.

Meanwhile, it became known that Germany, despite the situation with Navalny, is not going to refuse to complete the Nord Stream 2 project. In response to the call of the conservative candidate for the leader of the Christian Democratic Union party Friedrich Merz to introduce a two-year moratorium on the construction of the gas pipeline, the ruling bloc of Angela Merkel CDU / CSU and the Social Democratic Party of Germany decided not to support the freeze.

The coalition urged Merkel not to link the situation with Navalny and the implementation of the Nord Stream 2 project.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 6 September 2020 06: 36 New
    30
    It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 6 September 2020 07: 04 New
      26
      And when the Reichstag was set on fire, were there facts? And what about the attack by Gleiwitz?
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 6 September 2020 14: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        And when the Reichstag was set on fire, were there facts? And what about the attack by Gleiwitz?

        There, at least, there were facts of arson and attacks. Who does not matter. Nothing at all. The person just felt bad. Although what kind of person he is. Small bargaining chip, which fit into games, all sizes and all the power of which does not understand. For which he will ogrebot in full. And Russia, as always, is to blame.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 6 September 2020 21: 14 New
          +3
          There, at least, there were facts of arson and attacks.

          Here, too, is full of facts about which ours for some reason do not speak harshly ...
          Besides Navalny, only his wife's head was damaged. What she is carrying looks like her involvement in the poisoning or participation in a play with pre-scheduled roles. This one is lying, that nonsense, etc.
          Everything looks like the plan did not provide for the consent of the GDP for Navalny's departure to the FRG. Now they improvise as best they can.
          Neither doctors, nor associates, passengers on the plane, nor at least one German motorcyclist from the escort cortege, and no one in the Charite suffered from contact with Navalny, poisoned by the most dangerous substance in the world.
          The Britons were playing the fool about "they dug the ground, burned the house, tortured the cat, the Briton homeless people got sick / died" ...
          The Germans are pretending to be complete idiots. When will they get bored?
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 7 September 2020 13: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Alex777
            When will they get bored?

            I suspect never. Here, as they say, "the end justifies the means", or "not by washing, so by skating." On the other hand, the Western "people hawala" (and not only the Western ones), and if it doesn't hawala, then all the same, the "collective west" does not care. Such are the times. The current situation in Western countries reminds me more and more of the film "Idiocracy".
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 7 September 2020 15: 28 New
              -2
              On the other hand, Western people hawala (and not only Western ones)

              It seems to me that at such a rate they will get the "people" and he will stop "hawala". So let's see what happens in the end. hi
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 7 September 2020 18: 15 New
                0
                Quote: Alex777
                On the other hand, Western people hawala (and not only Western ones)

                It seems to me that at such a rate they will get the "people" and he will stop "hawala". So let's see what happens in the end. hi

                I think you are wrong, everything is much more sad. Western people hawal, hawala and will hawala whatever they want, that they slip it for a long, long time. I doubt that he will ever grow wiser with the existing brainwashing. True, some normal people are always there. But they don't make the weather.
                As for the "partners" - the local authorities - they did not have, do not have and will not have conscience and intelligence. They are honored with impudent shamelessness and profit. Therefore, the most impudent assaults without facts or with similar false unsubstantiated "facts" will always be!
    2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 6 September 2020 07: 08 New
      12
      In Europe, there is a widespread, but little-studied disease called "Hayley-like".
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 6 September 2020 12: 22 New
        +2
        It's time to send grandmother Merkel with her sanctions on a long and long journey.
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 6 September 2020 13: 54 New
          +2
          The decisions made within the entire military-political NATO bloc are a disaster for the participating countries, that is, Grandma Merkel is forced to introduce at least some new sanctions for far-fetched reasons, to maintain and not spoil mutually beneficial economic relations between our countries.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 6 September 2020 07: 23 New
      +8
      Watch "an evening with Solovyov" today. There will be an exposure of the provocation of the German special services with Navalny. Even Navalny's wife did not find a husband in the Charite (was he there at all?) And the guards at the clinic do not know who is "guarding". So my grandmother also said in two parts who would demand an explanation from whom.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 6 September 2020 07: 42 New
        -22
        Solovyov will return from his villa to Russia, hang noodles and again over the hill.
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 6 September 2020 07: 43 New
          +7
          And who doesn't hang up noodles now? Is it really Navalny? laughing Solovyov is a Muscovite, and their "spare villas" began even before the Soviet Power at dachas near Moscow. There is such a tradition, alas. No summer residence - you are nobody.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 6 September 2020 14: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: siberalt
            and their "spare villas" began even before the Soviet Power in the dachas near Moscow. There is such a tradition, alas. No summer residence - you are nobody.

            Solovyov has 8 children from three wives, and he brings up all of them at the very least. It's really cheaper for him to maintain a house in Italy than to walk all the kids even in Turkey on traditional vouchers. And then, in principle, a house in Italy is not so expensive. From 3-4 million rubles is quite possible. A finished dacha in the suburbs can cost more.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 6 September 2020 21: 19 New
              -1
              Solovyov has 8 children from three wives, and he brings up all of them at the very least. It's really cheaper for him to maintain a house in Italy

              Especially when you consider that he has his own money, honestly earned, is.
              In 1990, Soloviev was invited to teach economics at the University of Alabama in Huntsville [7] [20]. In the United States, Solovyov started doing business - he advised construction companies, since 1991 he was vice president of Wild Boys Land and Cattle Company. In 1992 he returned to Russia, where he creates his own business in the development of high technologies. According to him, “I had factories of my own, in Russia and in the Philippines. They produced disco equipment in the 1990s and sold it all over the world. There was an employment agency in Moscow ”[21]. At this time, Solovyov is a member of the Committee of Entrepreneurs of America, and also heads the Association of Young Economists [22] [23] [24].
              In 1998 he sold the business and invested in Gazprom shares.

              hi
        2. Volder
          Volder 6 September 2020 08: 26 New
          12
          Quote: 7,62x54
          Solovyov will return from his villa to Russia, hang noodles and again over the hill.
          When did Solovyov dump it over the hill? Dates and certificates to the studio!
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 10: 06 New
            +6
            bulk said
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 08: 41 New
          +8
          Quote: 7,62x54
          Soloviev will return from his villa

          do not envy, in the end did not steal
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 6 September 2020 08: 51 New
            -12
            There is a video by Navalny, which tells how much Solovyov bought an apartment in Moscow for. The bottom line is that he bought them for amounts several times less than the market value (the Moscow mayor's office helped). Maybe that's why Solovyov is now in a big grudge against Navalny.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 10: 05 New
              +2
              who bought them from ?!
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 6 September 2020 10: 11 New
                -6
                Here is a reference: "Novaya Gazeta published a document according to which the Moscow City Administration found him an apartment of 160 meters in an elite building on Dolgorukovskaya Street and sold it at a price of 2,5 million rubles. Given that the minimum market price of such apartments in the year of purchase is 13 million."
                1. Volder
                  Volder 6 September 2020 10: 34 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  Moscow mayor's office found him an apartment of 160 meters in an elite house on Dolgorukovskaya and sold it at a price of 2,5 million
                  If it is state / municipal property, then why not? There is nothing illegal in the fact that friends in the mayor's office helped.
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 11: 18 New
                  +2
                  can you reference?
                  look at the help
                  1. Fan-fan
                    Fan-fan 6 September 2020 14: 31 New
                    0
                    Here is a link http://stringer-news.com/publication.mhtml?Part=48&PubID=14436
                    Although you can find information yourself, now there are no problems with the search, there would be a desire.
                    By the way, Solovyov has not one of these apartments in Moscow, but three: a two-story apartment in the same house on Dolgorukovskaya with a size of 146 sq. m - bought it from the famous producer Alexander Tolmatsky. And one more, 140 sq. m, - from his son Cyril, known under the pseudonym Detsl.

                    These are not all "nightingale nests". In the elite cottage village of Stolnoye, on a plot of 60 acres, the popular presenter built a four-story mansion with a white facade. Its total area is impressive - one thousand square meters!
                    1. gurzuf
                      gurzuf 6 September 2020 15: 11 New
                      +3
                      Is everything that you have listed (even if it is true) is it a crime?
                    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 21: 21 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Fan-Fan
                      Here is a link http://stringer-news.com/publication.mhtml?Part=48&PubID=14436

                      you yourself read THIS before referring to THIS, I am very careful about the screenshots of documents, as I know what is done and how, I did it myself and advised the office, and THIS
                      not even a screen, just typed text
                      Quote: Fan-Fan
                      In the elite cottage village of Stolnoye, on a plot of 60 acres, the popular presenter built a four-story mansion with a white facade.

                      and that, I earned it, I built it, the toad eats what you can't do, so sit and envy in silence, got sick
                3. hohkn
                  hohkn 6 September 2020 14: 22 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  Here is a reference: "Novaya Gazeta published a document according to which the Moscow City Administration found him an apartment of 160 meters in an elite house on Dolgorukovskaya and sold it at a price of 2,5 million rubles.

                  Well, "Novaya Gazeta" is still a trash heap. Is there a scan of the document somewhere? Moreover, official, not a certificate on toilet paper.
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 10: 07 New
              +3
              By the way, I can post a video in which I will tell you that the bulk slept at the same time as Aguzarova and Pugacheva for money, will this become the basis for initiating a tax evasion case?
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 6 September 2020 10: 12 New
                -4
                Well, post this video, we'll see.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 11: 17 New
                  +1
                  it's easier for an iron to prove that it is a kettle than for you that besides words you need facts
                  1. Fan-fan
                    Fan-fan 6 September 2020 14: 34 New
                    -3
                    Vasya, promised to upload a video and merged, what is it?
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 21: 11 New
                      +1
                      well, kindergarten, show your language
            3. Igoresha
              Igoresha 6 September 2020 10: 08 New
              -3
              Navalny is certainly handsome with these vidos; but the West also acts as a buyer of stolen goods, if you think about it.
            4. Piramidon
              Piramidon 6 September 2020 10: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              There is a video by Navalny, which tells how much Solovyov bought an apartment in Moscow for. The bottom line is that he bought them for amounts several times less than the market value (the Moscow mayor's office helped).

              Who would help me buy an apartment for half the price. And I would absolutely not give a damn about the fact that there "bulk" will squeal.
              1. borberd
                borberd 6 September 2020 12: 18 New
                -3
                In the rest of the world, this is called corruption. Bribes are given not only in money, but also in services. If someone buys an apartment for 20% of the price, this means that the state will receive less money, and residents will not receive services. In other words, it is theft.
                1. hohkn
                  hohkn 6 September 2020 14: 21 New
                  +3
                  Quote: borberd
                  In the rest of the world this is called corruption. Bribes are given not only in money, but also in services. If someone buys an apartment for 20% of the price, this means that the state will receive less money, and residents will not receive services.

                  And what, Solovyov is an official on whom something depends, and without whom the Moscow mayor's office is unable to do?
                  Note 1 to Article 285 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation: Officials in the articles of this chapter are persons who permanently, temporarily or by special authority perform the functions of a representative of the government or perform organizational and administrative, administrative and economic functions in state bodies, local governments, state and municipal institutions, state corporations, state companies, state and municipal unitary enterprises, joint-stock companies, the controlling block of shares of which belongs to the Russian Federation, constituent entities of the Russian Federation or municipal formations, as well as in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops and military formations of the Russian Federation.

                  Which of this relates to Solovyov? If nothing, then this service cannot be a bribe.
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 6 September 2020 15: 28 New
                    -4
                    Do I understand you correctly that if the head of the city decides to distribute or sell cheap apartments from the housing stock to his friends, or to some other important uncles, then this is not a bribe and theft?
                    By the way, Solovyov works for the federal channel, for the state, therefore he is an official.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 21: 35 New
                      -2
                      Quote: borberd
                      By the way, Solovyov works for the federal channel, for the state, therefore he is an official.

                      fool
                      before writing nonsense at least a topic, study it
                      By officials persons are recognized permanently, temporarily or by special authority exercising the functions of a representative of the government or performing organizational and administrative or administrative functions in state bodies, local governments, state and municipal institutions, as well as in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, other troops and military formations of the Russian Federation. Thus, the concept of an official is based on an indication of the responsible functions performed by these persons in the field of organizational and administrative and administrative and economic activities.

                      Organizational and administrative functions means managerial functions related to the management of the activities of other people in connection with their service or production activities. Organizational and administrative activities include the selection of personnel, control and verification of the performance of the work performed, the organization of labor.

                      Administrative functions - these are the powers to manage and dispose of state property. These functions are assigned to the heads of economic services and their deputies, head. warehouses and shops, etc.
                    2. hohkn
                      hohkn 7 September 2020 19: 49 New
                      0
                      Quote: borberd
                      if the head of the city decides to distribute or sell cheap apartments from the housing stock to his friends

                      That is a jamb (crime or other offense) of the head of the city, and not Solovyov. Or am I wrong?
                      Quote: borberd
                      By the way, Solovyov works on the federal channel, for the state, therefore he is an official

                      Past the cash register. He does not perform the functions of a representative of the authorities, in the same way he does not perform organizational and administrative or administrative functions. The usual host of the next show. So he is not an official in the eyes of the law
                      You, apparently, did not quite understand me. The quote I have given is not from a commentary to the criminal code, but a note to the disposition of the article itself.
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 21: 30 New
                  -2
                  Quote: borberd
                  The rest of the world calls it corruption

                  Corruption is a term that usually denotes the use by an official of his power and rights entrusted to him, as well as the authority, opportunities, connections associated with this official status for personal gain, contrary to the law

                  Well, what powers did Solovov use?
                  Quote: borberd
                  ... If someone buys an apartment for 20% of the price

                  before you shake nonsense, check the BALANCE cost of the purchased property

                  maybe your parents privatized the apartment at the commercial cost in the late 80s ?!
                  or is it still on the residual?
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 6 September 2020 21: 40 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Corruption is a term that usually denotes the use by an official of his power and rights entrusted to him

                    Sobyanin owns this apartment personally, or was it still on the balance sheet of the Moscow housing stock?
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Well, what powers did Solovov use?

                    Soloviev, as a participant in the purchase of housing, is also responsible before the law, as is the one who sold this housing to him from the housing stock, 5 times cheaper than it is on the market.
                    I am amazed at people who justify corruption.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 22: 25 New
                      0
                      Quote: borberd
                      Sobyanin owns this apartment personally, or was it still on the balance sheet of the Moscow housing stock?

                      Can you name the book value of the apartment? !!
                      I am already silent that you do not have a single document about the purchase of this and you know the price from hearsay
                    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 September 2020 22: 27 New
                      0
                      Quote: borberd
                      I am amazed at people who justify corruption.

                      and I am enraged by people who do not know the laws, norms, but at the same time writhing out of themselves knows what
                      again
                      Do you have a purchase document?
                      what is the purchase price according to the documents? !!!
                      BALANCE SHEET VALUE OF REAL ESTATE? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        4. Ryusey
          Ryusey 6 September 2020 09: 15 New
          +1
          Well, unlike you, he is a significant character and makes good money, because he is in demand, and you ... and yes, envy is counterproductive)).
          1. gurzuf
            gurzuf 6 September 2020 15: 15 New
            0
            a significant character is something new in the interpretation of "the subject of a crime".
        5. figwam
          figwam 6 September 2020 10: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: 7,62x54
          Solovyov will return from his villa to Russia

          Solovyov has long been in Russia.
    4. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
      Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 6 September 2020 08: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.


      Well, why is it strange? In my opinion, this is a good old tradition: according to the Skripals, we were not presented with any imputed evidence of our guilt, but sanctions were introduced, no evidence was imposed on Boeing over Donbass, and sanctions were introduced for interference in the American elections ...
      In all previous cases, we safely endured and were silent, silent and endured ...
      Well, why would it be different this time ???
    5. venik
      venik 6 September 2020 09: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

      =======
      What's so strange about that? What evidence? What do they need the TRUTH? They just don't need it! All these politicians lured by "transnational elites" - the main thing is to blame Russia! It doesn't matter what, the main thing is to ACCUSE
      Well, of course, "sanctions", how can it be without them !!! am
    6. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 6 September 2020 09: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

      What's so strange about that? Skripali got a ride, and here is the same story. Taking sanctions on the basis of a freshly composed tale is already an established trend of our time.
    7. Insurgent
      Insurgent 6 September 2020 13: 52 New
      +3
      Germany demanded action from Russia in connection with the Navalny case

      Quote: Pessimist22
      It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      And when the Reichstag was set on fire, were there facts? And what about the attack by Gleiwitz?


      And what will the facts decide without the desire to consider them?

      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 6 September 2020 14: 45 New
        -5
        You are all lying, especially about the drunken alcoholic, you just want to make Alexei an alcoholic. Your version is a provocation. My version - they wanted to silence Navalny forever and organized this political assassination in front of the whole world. The killers are not afraid, since they got away with all the previous murders: Starovoitova, Politkovskaya, Rokhlin, Nemtsov, Magnitsky, Schekochikhin, etc.
        1. Spartanec
          Spartanec 6 September 2020 16: 41 New
          0
          We found out why Lesha shouted on the plane. Information from persons close to the German Chancellor)
        2. koramax81
          koramax81 6 September 2020 17: 53 New
          +2
          Well, yes, no one touched him for 10 years, they even protected him (the terms are only for administrative purposes, he constantly flies abroad). And then suddenly before the elections in Russia and during the events in Belarus - BAC. and trampled ....
          And the strangest thing: the Russian special services appoint the president of America, twirl half the world on their finger, but normally they cannot "poison" the second time ...
        3. aleks26
          aleks26 6 September 2020 20: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          My version - they wanted to silence Navalny forever and organized this political assassination in front of the whole world.

          DB, if the State was engaged in this, then Nasalny would be sewn with a 100% guarantee.
      2. military_cat
        military_cat 6 September 2020 16: 44 New
        0

        Quote: Insurgent


        No one introduced any sanctions

        Don't trust pictures from the internet. They are drawn with the expectation that no one will check the picture.
        https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201811152026-jsqx.htm
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 7 September 2020 08: 24 New
          0
          Quote: military_cat
          Don't trust pictures from the internet. They are drawn with the expectation that no one will check the picture.
          https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201811152026-jsqx.htm


          Do not believe ? Good yes

          But the sanctions, or rather the "sanctions" against the SA are ridiculous ... Where is the reaction of the EU, Lithuania and Poland finally?
    8. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 6 September 2020 13: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

      Nothing strange. They did not bother with the previous "victims of the regime" either.
      For them, the main PURPOSE, not the FACT.
      Here the goal is obvious, to ditch the SP-2. Moreover, Germany itself was appointed to the role of "prosecutor".
      the call of the conservative, candidate for the leader of the Christian Democratic Union party Friedrich Merz to introduce a two-year moratorium on the construction of the gas pipeline
    9. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 September 2020 14: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

      And who in the West has presented at least some proof to Russia for the last 20-30 years? They stupidly molded the stigma and bred the stench all over the world.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 6 September 2020 20: 21 New
        -3
        And who in the West has presented at least some proof to Russia for the last 20-30 years? They stupidly molded the stigma and bred the stench all over the world.
        Andrey, do you really think that in this case someone needs proof as in court? Poison (whatever its name) from a series for special operations. Access and use for its intended purpose has a limited number of persons. You can't buy it in a store. It is designed to take all the ends into the water. The performer must calmly leave his victim so that he has a 100% alibi. And then, if something happens, calmly say: "What is your evidence? This is a disease of not washed hands." Here, all adults understand that the operation has failed once again. They'll get away with it, they'll chatter this topic, shout it out and calm down. And so on until next time.
    10. viktor.
      viktor. 6 September 2020 14: 48 New
      +1
      What are the facts? fool Who is Germany and even more so Alyosha ???? request Who Merkelikh is going to swing Russia! ??? belay For whom, for the alcoholic Alyosha? To declare this Alyosha on the international wanted list for prostitution !!!
    11. Maz
      Maz 6 September 2020 20: 08 New
      +1
      here are the facts
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 September 2020 06: 37 New
    +8
    otherwise Berlin will discuss retaliation. At the same time, Maas, answering the question of how sure he is that the Russian state is behind the situation with Navalny, said that "there are many instructions for this, and therefore now the Russian side is facing a challenge."
    Look, the nemchura was dispersed! Who are you, Maas, to issue ultimatums to Russia? How was it necessary to kick him with merikatos to whine like that? bully
    1. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 6 September 2020 07: 44 New
      +1
      The kick was given when a hundred thousand took to the streets of Berlin against quarantine measures. Claims against Russia immediately appeared
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 6 September 2020 08: 54 New
        -16
        People, come to your senses a little, these claims of the Germans are not to Russia, but to the Russian authorities, specifically to Putin. And Putin is not the whole of Russia.
        1. figwam
          figwam 6 September 2020 10: 53 New
          +8
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          And Putin is not the whole of Russia.

          Do you say this as an officer's daughter?)))
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 6 September 2020 11: 35 New
            -3
            Yes, my father is an officer and fought in the Kursk Bulge and in Stalingrad, but I am masculine. But you apparently do not understand that there are eternal values ​​that lie above political predilections, for example, there is the term "chain dog of the regime", but there is "honest service to one's country" and the dishonesty of individual rulers is not a reason to wish their country evil. And slogans such as "Putin is Russia or Russia is Putin" are incorrect, since Russia was before him and will be after him.
        2. Jura 27
          Jura 27 6 September 2020 11: 25 New
          -8
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          People, come to your senses a little, these claims of the Germans are not to Russia, but to the Russian authorities, specifically to Putin. And Putin is not the whole of Russia.

          The Putinoids do not understand this, they believe that they personally poured the newcomer into bulk tea.
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 6 September 2020 14: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: Jura 27
            The Putinoids do not understand this, they believe that they personally poured the newcomer into bulk tea.

            The Clintonoids have no idea that if Navalny had drunk the "newbie", he would not have made it to Berlin.
            1. shura7782
              shura7782 6 September 2020 20: 30 New
              -3
              ....... if Navalny had drunk the "newbie", he would never have reached Berlin.
              Vladimir, for you the name of the poison for special operations has some kind of fundamental meaning, in order to understand what's what? Do you really still think that this is a disease of unwashed hands?
              1. Vladimir_6
                Vladimir_6 7 September 2020 11: 41 New
                0
                Quote: shura7782
                Vladimir, for you the name of the poison for special operations has some kind of fundamental meaning, in order to understand what's what? Do you really still think that this is a disease of unwashed hands?

                Alexander, I don't count, I read
                "The doctors who received and treated Alexei Navalny in Omsk told what could have caused his condition to worsen."
                The patient may have overused diets, alcohol, overwork, stress, or prolonged exposure to the sun

                considers the chief toxicologist of the Omsk region and the Siberian Federal District, Alexander Sabaev.
                The developer of Novichk, Doctor of Chemistry Leonid Rink, commented on the findings of the poisoning of Navalny
                poisoning by "Novichok" would lead Navalny to death: "Then he would have been resting at the cemetery for a long time, that's all."
        3. forester1971
          forester1971 6 September 2020 20: 25 New
          +1
          And you join the Germans in their claims against Russia. Such people already existed in 1941-1945, as they were called, you probably know yourself. They also believed that they were fighting only against the regime, but not against Russia.
          1. shura7782
            shura7782 7 September 2020 21: 38 New
            -1
            And you join the Germans in their claims against Russia.
            Dmitry, most likely because of your pseudo-patriotism, you are already confusing GDP and Russia. In this case, Germany has a claim to the customer.
            Such people....
            Actually, this is a direct insult and if you were at arm's length you would certainly get a mark for it.
            What would be very clear to you. I am a veteran of the database and since 2008 I vote against the GDP and EP. Navalny is not my hero. And GDP is not a judge of who lives and who does not.
            1. forester1971
              forester1971 7 September 2020 22: 06 New
              0
              Whose patriotism is more correct is not for you to decide. Germany and the entire collective West have claims to Russia.
              The same as you said the former White Guards (that they are against Stalin and the Bolsheviks, and not against Russia), who fought on the side of Hitler during the Second World War. And your threats about "arm's length" and about getting me a "mark" look ridiculous enough.
              PS I am also a veteran of military operations (though I do not know what it matters - but for you it probably does). And who told you exactly that VVP was deciding something about Navalny - did they conduct the investigation themselves or who suggested? (not required to answer).
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 6 September 2020 06: 37 New
    +6
    An information wave is like a wave ... as it swooped in, it will roll back!
    It is important what condition our breakwater is in!
    So far, the impression is that the breakwater is worth it !!! and so, soon, we will see whether he will stand or not.
    Yes, what the chief from Denmark or Sweden said there, no one heard? This is already interesting! Because the impression after his statement ... that the wave is beating idle!?!?!? and no "the whole progressive world is outraged and ..." will not, from the definition AT ALL!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 September 2020 07: 54 New
      +7
      Greetings, Victor! hi And who was killed by this war poison? As they say ----- Skripal is alive. Navalny is alive.
      Another thing is that nobody will see Navalny? Somewhere will be hidden forever ?? lol wassat
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 September 2020 09: 02 New
        +4
        Hi Dmitry soldier , ....
        We have to look. Mason and other crap, that's understandable, BUT, Germany is not Britain, politicians who are completely crazy are no more than sane !!!
        Ours are looking for a different approach, made a strong approach ..... officially turned to the medical association !!!
        Let's see what the answer is. All this is public, I just didn't brush it off ...
        That's when / if waved it off, tady oh! Further, it will be useless to look for sanity there!
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 6 September 2020 09: 20 New
          +3
          It seems to me, Victor, this is a continuation of the theme that Russia must repent. They did not repent for the skrypals, so they offer for the bulk. Some kind of nonsense of the same type ..... Or I don’t understand, maybe there are plans to increase the number of lies about the victims. NEW CHILD, as well as the number of these victims?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 September 2020 09: 55 New
            +2
            They act as a standard, they check for lice ... but, since they are not dumb, you can expect that you can try to constructively solve the problem with them, which is being done now!
            Let's see what they answer to the appeal, the request from the doctors' association !!! So far, but we'll see.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 06: 39 New
    +2
    The Deutsches are in a hurry ... in a hurry. Can you smell the roast? If there is nothing in the materials of Omsk, but in theirs there is, then ... all they have to do is shout loudly "Stop the thief", hiding their eyes ... Was there a boy? Straight after Dostoevsky ...
    1. hohkn
      hohkn 6 September 2020 14: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      If there is nothing in the materials of Omsk, but in theirs, then ... all they have to do is shout loudly "Stop the thief", hiding their eyes ...

      The Hans only now realized how they had been set up ... Neither steal nor keep watch. After the Skripals, ours naturally insured themselves by taking Navalny's biomaterials. To poison him seriously now, in order to provide Russia with the "correct" analyzes, is more expensive. It will be immediately clear when the undersized were trashed. And without this they cannot provide anything at all. And if ours demand, through all channels, the provision of samples "for examination" as part of the investigation, the Germans will look no better than the British. Only the British found it easier - the Skripals were already with them, and the Hans too persistently sought the removal of Navalny so that ours would not draw the appropriate conclusions. I think now we have a whole "battery" of all kinds of Olesha's biomaterials. No wonder they did not give it away for so long, motivating the impossibility of transportation.
  5. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 6 September 2020 06: 41 New
    +4
    After Trump's victory in the November elections, bulk will be forgotten. For now, demand from Berlin in response to fulfill all the points and according to the order of the Minsk agreements ...
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 6 September 2020 06: 44 New
    -1
    Germany demanded action from Russia in connection with the Navalny case
    Shoot him? No problems. request
    The coalition urged Merkel not to link the situation with Navalny and the implementation of the Nord Stream 2 project
    hi
  7. bald
    bald 6 September 2020 06: 46 New
    +5
    Have the docks been presented? - no. If they let our doctors do a second analysis, directly, so to speak, from the living Navalny, and traces are found there, then we can safely blame those with whom he is and officially apply to the Hague court, although I think that he is corrupt. And our docks correspond to reality (the time of the presence of a newcomer in the body, well, the escort road, without protective equipment, etc.)
    1. Avior
      Avior 6 September 2020 06: 57 New
      +3
      Samples for analyzes are already in Omsk.
      To begin with, you just need an official statement that they were tested in the laboratory for the presence of poisons - and then a detailed list of what they were tested for should be attached - and the poison was not detected.
      If the Germans then continue to insist, choose an independent laboratory and transfer samples to it for verification and demand the same from the Germans.
      1. bald
        bald 6 September 2020 07: 16 New
        +2
        I'm not talking about these samples in Omsk, but at the moment in Germany.
        1. Avior
          Avior 6 September 2020 07: 28 New
          +3
          To prove that the traces appeared in Germany, you first need to officially confirm that they were not in the samples in Omsk.
          1. bald
            bald 6 September 2020 07: 41 New
            +3
            If you listen to the comrades who created the novice and competent chemists, it becomes clear how he behaves in carriers and for those around him. By the way, German chemists are well aware of this.
            1. Avior
              Avior 6 September 2020 07: 45 New
              +1
              In the West, the word Novicek is understood as a whole family of toxic substances with differing characteristics.
              Again, the effect is concentration dependent.
              1. Siberian54
                Siberian54 6 September 2020 12: 57 New
                +1
                They talk about "military substance", then people should have thrown their hooves on the plane and with him all the neighbors in the chairs .. And since everyone is alive, then this suggests that someone is lying.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 6 September 2020 13: 36 New
                  +1
                  depends on concentration and other conditions.
                  and on the type of poisonous substance
                  1. Siberian54
                    Siberian54 8 September 2020 08: 04 New
                    0
                    the minister announced a "novice" type of warhead, that is, phosphates .. those who provided assistance on the Tomsk-Moscow flight should have at least minimal signs of poisoning (enclosed space) at any concentration of OM
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 8 September 2020 08: 05 New
                      0
                      Are you sure the plane was poisoned? Do you have such information?
                      1. Siberian54
                        Siberian54 8 September 2020 08: 11 New
                        0
                        badly became on the plane, his wife announced the poisoning during the flight, so the blogger in Omsk immediately fell into the hands of specialists ... The dashing nineties, Moscow, THREE drops of phosphate group OM (the so-called newcomer) on the phone - one banker, a bank employee who found a corpse, a police officer who came on call, a pathologist who performed an autopsy ...
                      2. Avior
                        Avior 8 September 2020 08: 17 New
                        +1
                        Novice is a group of poisons, about 60 in total.
                        Different forms, different poisons, different concentrations, can act in very different ways. Not all BOV are instantaneous.
                        On the plane, by the way, it appeared after half an hour or even earlier
                      3. Siberian54
                        Siberian54 8 September 2020 15: 48 New
                        0
                        Bundeswehr laboratory: the substance of the battle group.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 6 September 2020 08: 00 New
        +1
        for this, the doctors of the two clinics simply have to hold a consultation. Moreover, the Omskys asked about it immediately and openly through an appeal. Apparently German doctors are so busy that they don't really want to do it.
        1. Avior
          Avior 6 September 2020 11: 48 New
          +3
          just have to have a consultation

          What and why? The council for the analyzes is not created.
          The Germans announced the results of the tests, there should be a response from Omsk with confirmation that this particular substance or group was not found. I have not seen this.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 6 September 2020 11: 51 New
            -2
            a consultation is created so that doctors can compare the results, share information and make a general decision. purely prof. and they are held on various issues, and the like is quite included in it. Concilium (Latin consilium - "meeting, discussion") - a meeting of several scientists of one or different specialties. A consultation may be necessary to establish the health status of the patient, diagnosis, determine the prognosis, tactics for further examination and treatment, the expediency of referral to specialized departments or another, specialized, medical institution. And this will solve all the issues in general. from the beginning to the end. and not blah blah blah politicians. But everyone understands perfectly well that it will not happen. because the truth is not needed. need a hype. even so dumb.
            1. Avior
              Avior 6 September 2020 11: 57 New
              +1
              I know why the consultation. and I ask you, in this case, why?
              the dispute is due to analyzes, and for their conduct, a council is not created.
              First, you need a statement from Omsk that for a specific substance or a narrow group, Navalny's analyzes were checked and not found. I have not heard this, only general words.
              you need a list of what exactly was checked.
              If you find different results, look for an independent laboratory for control analyzes with samples from both Germany and Omsk.
              Consilium is not needed for this
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 6 September 2020 12: 04 New
                +1
                hello. arrived))) type the Chief toxicologist of the Omsk region and the Siberian Federal District Alexander Sabaev and read what he says. Enough of such a position for an official statement? or the fact that the doctors of the Omsk hospital said that they had transferred the results of Navalny's MRI diagnostics to the Berlin clinic Charite. The hospital also offered to transfer samples of biomaterials and the results of laboratory tests of the patient, which would allow German specialists to have a complete anamnesis and track the dynamics of his vital signs is also not an indicator? still in the public domain. even video messages were made from there. what for? make an elementary diagnosis based on general data. but the Germans don't need them. they don't even get in touch, which is also stated by the same official. moreover, conferences were held with the capital's doctors and Omsk. all this is also available everywhere.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 6 September 2020 12: 32 New
                  +1
                  i read what he says.
                  That they are ready to exchange test results, and not convey, as you write, knowing full well that the Germans will not exchange anything, not to mention the fact that why are they in a hospital in Omsk? there is no patient. Who prevents them from simply taking and transferring through the patient's relatives?
                  I did not find a statement that they verified the presence of exactly those substances that the Germans are talking about, and even more so about the published protocols of the analysis results. By the way, MRI has nothing to do with analyzes. If you know about such a statement, give me a link, I'll see, I have not seen such a statement, only general words.
                  make an elementary diagnosis based on general data

                  in Omsk there was only one preliminary diagnosis from the emergency doctors - poisoning.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 6 September 2020 12: 58 New
                    0
                    The most important organs responsible for detoxification - kidneys, liver, lungs - were intact at the time of the patient's stay in our clinic. That is, there was no damage and hypothesis about the passage of the toxicant through these organs, and any toxicant, of course, must pass through them, - said Sabaev. I'm not a doctor, but these are very specific words. if they were found, no one would have let him out of the hospital, understand already. the hospital would be quarantined. this is a whole system in the event of a possible poisoning of a CWA. The doctors contacted him for two days. and everyone is alive and well. what else do you want?
                  2. Avior
                    Avior 6 September 2020 13: 35 New
                    0
                    everything is very simple and you don't need many words
                    To begin with, you just need an official statement that they were tested in the laboratory for the presence of poisons - and then a detailed list of what they were tested for should be attached - and the poison was not detected.
                    If the Germans then continue to insist, choose an independent laboratory and transfer samples to it for verification and demand the same from the Germans.
                  3. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 6 September 2020 14: 00 New
                    -3
                    no one will transfer anything for one simple reason - because in the first trials there will be nothing and this will have to be explained. and the easiest way to avoid this is to blurt out accusations like the British. demanding to prove that you did not do this is the same as if I am now demanding proof from you that you don’t fuck with corpses at night, excuse my French. I will repeat the words of the Omsk doctors, they are ready to convey anything they ask. and no one makes contact with them.
                  4. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 6 September 2020 14: 06 New
                    -3
                    During the first eight hours of the patient's stay in the hospital, chemical and toxicological studies were carried out in three independent laboratories. No toxicants, including such potent poisons as organophosphorus compounds, were detected in the blood or urine, "Sabaev said. He said everything and quite specifically.
                  5. Avior
                    Avior 6 September 2020 15: 08 New
                    +1
                    organophosphorus compounds are chlorophos, for example.
                    Once again, there should be statements on specific substances that the Germans are talking about, and not in general terms. and "organophosphorus compounds" are generic words.
                    especially since we are talking about organofluorophosphorus substances.
                  6. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 6 September 2020 15: 16 New
                    -2
                    forgive you sane? when they say not found it means NO NONE !!!!!! he should list them for what? you forgive me as with the Russian language? do you understand at a conversational level like? when you are told that no toxicants have been detected, including such compounds, that something prevents you from grasping the meaning? tested in three laboratories. there are three groups of studies. it is officially declared, but for some reason you needed what he would name each one separately and say that they did not find ... some kind of big top ...
                  7. Avior
                    Avior 6 September 2020 15: 31 New
                    0
                    I am yes, but on your account I have questions, as well as about your understanding of the Russian language.
                    the statement "not found" does not mean that they were not there.
                    the Germans checked for specific substances and their statements for specific ones.
                    there should be a direct response to them.
                    we are talking about specific substances, and there is no direct statement about them.
                    and you, I see, have problems with the elementary rules of communication.
                    hi
                  8. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 6 September 2020 15: 39 New
                    0
                    Did the Germans check for specific substances?))) Seriously? As I understand it, or there are very few of them in the world, or did they just know something specific?) As for this, it was not found for me, as for any sane person, it is enough. three laboratories looked for and did not find) it is easier for the Germans, they were looking for what they need and not what it really is. therefore, differences in research) is nothing new under the moon in this world. or, as they say in a clever book, who is looking for will always find) right?)
                  9. Avior
                    Avior 6 September 2020 16: 12 New
                    +1
                    It was the elementary Germans who announced that a specific substance or a narrow group was found, and the answer must be strictly for a specific substance or group - there is no such substance in the sample specifically.
                    Everything else will be perceived from the outside as an evasion.
                    And if a test was carried out for this substance, then tell about it. If not, repeat it and say it directly. And then demand an independent laboratory.
                    These are obvious things.
    2. Liam
      Liam 6 September 2020 13: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: Avior
      There was only one preliminary diagnosis in Omsk from the emergency doctors - poisoning.

      However, everyone demands something from the Germans, but they are silent why and on the basis of what data and symptoms the Omsk doctors made this particular diagnosis and took it to toxicology and not to cardiology, for example, and began to inject atropine. It is enough to find out and questions to the German diagnosis will disappear by themselves
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 13: 56 New
      -2
      logical. and the question that the toxic substance in no way touched a bunch of people before and after apparently does not bother you much, right?) that the darkness of people contacted him and everyone who was checked are all clean, too, apparently it is quite possible to explain? that a person is poisoned by weapons of mass destruction and is again alive like the past, is it probably in the order of things?)))
    4. Liam
      Liam 6 September 2020 14: 25 New
      -1
      Someone told you that someone sprayed this substance in the air to poison dozens of people? How other people were supposed to have been poisoned if poison was dropped into tea and he drank it? Do you have infa that other people drank from his glass? And what is alive. Radiation is also deadly in theory, but not everyone dies from it. It depends on the dose and many other factors. For example, how quickly medical care was provided. Hundreds of thousands of people lived and eliminated the consequences of Chernobyl. Do you know that they all died?

      PySy.If you were friends with logic, then you would have thought of yourself that the one who tried to poison is the first interested that the dose was small and pointless and other people would not be poisoned. Otherwise, you cannot avoid kipesh and cannot write off a hangover.
    5. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 14: 59 New
      0
      I understand what WMD and BOV are you don't want to understand ...
  • Jura 27
    Jura 27 6 September 2020 11: 34 New
    -7
    Quote: Avior
    Samples for analyzes are already in Omsk.
    To begin with, you just need an official statement that they were tested in the laboratory for the presence of poisons - and then a detailed list of what they were tested for should be attached - and the poison was not detected.
    If the Germans then continue to insist, choose an independent laboratory and transfer samples to it for verification and demand the same from the Germans.

    You write complete nonsense: the hospital is state, the state poisoned Lyokha, therefore, in the samples of the poisoned, they would rather find the blood of reptilians from Nubira than a beginner (and for an independent foreign laboratory they will provide a purified sample of poison, with some kind of moonshine).
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 11: 46 New
      +3
      sure. the doctors are finished. all polls are ready for forgery and falsification ... the ranks of Navalny's imperfections, I see, finally fell into childhood.
      1. Jura 27
        Jura 27 6 September 2020 11: 56 New
        -7
        Quote: carstorm 11
        sure. the doctors are finished. all polls are ready for forgery and falsification ... the ranks of Navalny's imperfections, I see, finally fell into childhood.

        As a child, obviously you are, an officer from the FSB simply comes to our country and says what is needed and what should not be written in paper.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 6 September 2020 12: 01 New
          +4
          of course they come) they just walk in droves to hospitals and force them to falsify) and at the same time to airports and cafes. bloody gebnya) Lord ... how can this only be born in people's heads ...
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 6 September 2020 15: 01 New
            +1
            Sorry, but you have a problem with your head. Or don't you know, but the Komsomol member wrote how dozens of FSB agents followed Navalny on his trip to Siberia. They even went to the village after him, where he just went to swim. Moreover, such surveillance is illegal, and the one who initiated the surveillance must be tried. Let me remind you of the Watergate scandal in the United States, when Nixon was kicked out of the presidency for ordering the intelligence services to wiretap political rivals. Intelligence agencies should track bandits and terrorists, not political competitors. American society knows this very well, but our society is in prostration.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 6 September 2020 15: 09 New
              -2
              You probably don't understand the difference between following and tracing the route)) learn the basics of operational work to begin with.
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 6 September 2020 20: 49 New
                +1
                The words "watched" and "tracked" in this case are synonyms, since the result is the same: dozens of intelligence agents followed Navalny all the way, put a wiretap at the hotel and carried out other operational measures, for example, interviewing shop assistants about what he was buying ...
                1. Ilya Nikitich
                  Ilya Nikitich 6 September 2020 21: 26 New
                  0
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  dozens of intelligence agents followed Navalny all the way, set up wiretaps at the hotel and carried out other operational activities, for example, interviewing shop assistants about what he was buying.

                  What an oval one has and an inflated sense of self-worth and importance. It is surprising that the patient writes only about dozens of bloody KGB men, and not about thousands.
                  For example, KirayarMysh told me in secret that in fact the entire personnel of the FSBMVDGRUGSH of the Russian Federation was involved in this operation. Yes, in addition, nuclear submarines and 317 divers were launched into the pond in which Sisyan swam.
                2. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 7 September 2020 00: 02 New
                  -4
                  In this and any other case, this means that operational work was carried out and his path was tracked, his contacts along the way. What is clearly stated. You are simply substituting concepts for the sake of your beliefs. and nothing more.
        2. forester1971
          forester1971 6 September 2020 20: 32 New
          +1
          Have the FSB officers come to you and say what you can write on the site and what you can't?
    2. Avior
      Avior 6 September 2020 11: 49 New
      +1
      for now, there should be just confirmation that in Omsk they tested for the same poison that the Germans announced.
    3. Liam
      Liam 6 September 2020 13: 10 New
      -2
      It is you who write the nonsense, it is technically impossible and the very first analysis will show it
    4. hohkn
      hohkn 6 September 2020 14: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Jura 27
      in the samples of the poisoned, it is more likely that the blood of reptilians from Nubiru will be found than a beginner (and for a foreign independent laboratory will provide a purified sample from poison, with some moonshine).

      You should first talk to the doctors, or something. With the same pathologists. They would explain to you in a popular way whether this is possible or not.
      And why would our people, if they really wanted to get rid of Navalny, use this so-called "Novichok", which (oh horror!) Cannot kill anyone in any way, and is revealed at once? Isn't it easier to use any other poison, of which there are a great many, and the use of which is simply impossible to identify due to the fact that they are completely decomposed in the victim's body?
      1. Liam
        Liam 6 September 2020 14: 46 New
        -4
        Quote: hohkn
        A "newbie" who (oh horror!) Can't kill anyone in any way, and is revealed at once?

        Who told you that? Do you have statistics on the use of Novice and how many survived and how many died? Who was killed by him and everything went well - they were in the grave for a long time with different diagnoses, from a heart attack to a severe hangover
        Quote: hohkn
        Isn't it easier to use any other poison, of which there are a great many, and the use of which is simply impossible to identify due to the fact that they are completely decomposed in the victim's body?

        Announce the entire list of such poisons and especially proofs that they do not leave traces. Such in nature do not exist
        1. hohkn
          hohkn 6 September 2020 15: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Liam
          Who told you that? Do you have statistics on the use of Novice and how many survived and how many died?

          Well, how is it? The creaks are still alive. Navalny too. It turns out that it does not kill ... Based on the statements of the British and Germans ...
          Quote: Liam
          Announce the entire list of such poisons and especially proofs that they do not leave traces.

          Why do you need it? Talk to pathologists, they will tell you if you are trustworthy. It makes no sense to me not to believe the pathologist. In addition, there are few poisons, the presence of which in Navalny's body can be explained as two fingers? At least the same methanol, or botulinum toxin? No, you just need a Newbie to, like in England ...
          1. Liam
            Liam 6 September 2020 15: 06 New
            -1
            Quote: hohkn
            It turns out it doesn't kill

            It turns out not Always kills. Like any other weapon. Sometimes kills sometimes only wounds. If you're lucky.

            Quote: hohkn
            With pathologists

            In short, you cannot name any "traceless" poison and switch to the lyrics.
            1. hohkn
              hohkn 7 September 2020 19: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Liam
              In short, you cannot name any "traceless" poison and switch to the lyrics.

              And you look on the Internet. Perhaps you will find it on the darknet, and that is not a fact. Do you have any idea why this is not publicly available?
  • SOVIET UNION 2
    SOVIET UNION 2 6 September 2020 07: 15 New
    +5
    Vova! The beginner seems to be hitting the squares (yes, experts will correct me if I'm wrong). There and then a point action! Polonius, it seems, is also not from the score here we play, here we do not play, here the fish was wrapped! Is it a poisonous substance from Europe? Such a poison called Fake! How about this version?
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 07: 32 New
      +1
      Anyone who wants can easily find information ..
      This newbie can be in a solid or in a liquid state ..
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 6 September 2020 08: 02 New
        +4
        exactly. only this WMD and no matter what state it is. its main task was and is the destruction of people. massive please note
        1. Mishanya 74
          Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 09: 25 New
          -5
          I don’t know how you are going to poison a lot of people with one milligram ..
          For example..
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 6 September 2020 09: 31 New
            +6
            What do you mean) Skripals smeared their entire pen with them and then survived, and you are talking about milligrams) they apparently need to shower themselves from head to toe to die) the evil Russians locked the whole bottle there. and in it there are at least 50 of them, judging by what they showed. and people survived))) I'm already silent that there are hundreds of poisons with a guaranteed result, but here they take for some reason weapons of mass destruction and poison them. religion apparently does not allow to pour cyanide into tea) only a beginner only hardcore)))
            1. Mishanya 74
              Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 09: 44 New
              -5
              And in fact, just Petrov and Boschirov, who were not Petrov and Boschirov, just went to see the spiers, right?
              You saw how they smeared the handle, apparently, since you so boldly assert
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 6 September 2020 09: 47 New
                +1
                it's not me who says it, but British intelligence and Scotland Yard) all questions to them. and where did they go and why is it their own business.
                1. Mishanya 74
                  Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 10: 32 New
                  -4
                  Did the British intelligence claim that * the whole pen was covered *?
                  That's just the point that you see here I don't see ..
                  You are not interested in a stupid concocted story * Simonyan and tourists * ... you believe her ..
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 6 September 2020 11: 29 New
                    0
                    teach you how to use Google? you type in the search and read. everything is very simple. there you will find a lot of things about the gel on the pen and other nonsense.
                    1. Mishanya 74
                      Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 11: 34 New
                      -3
                      Well post the link
                    2. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 11: 44 New
                      +3
                      I have nothing to do here) open the search and drive in the newbie has been applied to the door handle of the house and read hundreds of links.
                    3. Mishanya 74
                      Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 15: 01 New
                      -1
                      What is inflicted yes ..
                      But applied and * smeared all over the handle * is a little different ..
                      Is not it?
                    4. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 15: 07 New
                      -3
                      you are, to be honest, ridiculous in their attempts to pull an owl onto the globe. all the same, even poking in the face does not convince you. everyone is looking for a new reason to continue arguing. let's do it without me.
                    5. Mishanya 74
                      Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 15: 40 New
                      -1
                      When this idle talk, what did yours come to be called conviction?
                      No, gibberish is gibberish
                    6. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 15: 43 New
                      0
                      as you please. for this I say goodbye.
  • Jura 27
    Jura 27 6 September 2020 11: 36 New
    -1
    [/ quote] religion apparently does not allow pouring cyanide into tea [quote]

    You write nonsense - cyanide is easily detected and slowly excreted.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 11: 43 New
      0
      and who cares about that?))) Putin personally pours newcomer into bottles and orders to poison everyone. but so that they would stay alive))) so if only he died, the Germans would still find a newcomer)))
  • Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 6 September 2020 15: 09 New
    -1
    How he will hit the squares when 2 milliliters of poison is dropped into tea, and tea is in the human stomach. The dose was specially selected so that others would not suffer, otherwise the suspicion of the poison would immediately appear. The Skripals did not calculate the dose and instead of one Skripal, several people became infected. The same thing in Bulgaria, they hounded two, and hooked another (the case of Gebrev, who was avenged for the supply of weapons to the Kiev junta).
  • Russ
    Russ 6 September 2020 06: 49 New
    +5
    Yes, a complete ignore !!! Let them spin ... yes
    1. bald
      bald 6 September 2020 07: 20 New
      -1
      Obviously, because of some kind of shit, such a nix. They just got it out with this stuff, started a flea market.
      1. Beregovic_1
        Beregovic_1 6 September 2020 08: 55 New
        +2
        Xisyan is a respected figure in Europe. They seriously believe that he is a competitor for GDP. But in Russia, not very much. (in fact, nothing but his cool exposure does not cause interest, there is no program, no personnel resource, no independence). And over the past 2 years, a wave of his poisoning has already risen 2 times. And in fact an allergy to fat burners. They buried a man in the nets for saggy breasts, so he suffers. Pysy: I have never voted for VVP and I am not going to. But Sisyan is not an alternative either.
        1. bald
          bald 6 September 2020 17: 39 New
          0
          The main question is who? !!! No one has faith.
  • SOVIET UNION 2
    SOVIET UNION 2 6 September 2020 06: 50 New
    +5
    According to the head of the German Foreign Ministry, the "attack" on Navalny was carried out with the use of "a prohibited lethal chemical warfare agent."
    Is it a scribe or a tin? And if you remember the Middle Ages in Europe? It seems that poisoning was the norm? What? Genetic memory? Marasmus? What are you talking about? Judging by recent history, life in Europe goes on like in a time loop !? Heroes always find themselves in the same situation ?! We will not say anything about the poisoned blankets. About the gas chambers, we will also pretend that they were not. Who hasn't poisoned in modern times ?! Hussein hounded ?! Gaddafi hounded ?! Assad hounded ?! And Putin ?! It's mine! Polonium! Newbie! Barbarian? And what about Europe? Let's leave the States alone with his orange. Euthanasia! What it is? What are GMOs and palm oil? Not! The topic is interesting! Let's talk about poisoning! Who is the leader of the poison? Who is the leader of the fakes? What are the opinions?
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 September 2020 08: 05 New
      +5
      A lot of things can be remembered ---- and the emergence of viruses, including covid, and Ebola, and American laboratories in Georgia, Ukraine ...
      Someone our new vaccine, does not give rest, including! The first one! good
      To emphasize that the Russians can poison
  • Humpty
    Humpty 6 September 2020 06: 56 New
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Was there a boy? Straight after Dostoevsky ..

    Don't you confuse Dostoevsky with anyone? According to Dostoevsky, the Anal was supposed to attract some of his curators. Or that granny.
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 6 September 2020 07: 04 New
    0
    demanded on what basis?
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 07: 36 New
      -6
      Apparently on the basis of the fact that Navalny was still sent and still * Newbie *
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 6 September 2020 08: 16 New
        +3
        okay?) but forgive someone on this occasion provided at least one fact? the comparison of samples can be carried out by our doctors and theirs? and maybe some other facts for such a statement were provided by someone other than words?) everything is solved in a simple way - a medical commission is created and by general efforts compares and checks all the samples and conducts a consultation. all. nothing else . based on his findings, or refuses to initiate a criminal case. argue no one will show either the conclusions of the German or the test results?)
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 6 September 2020 07: 09 New
    +9
    I propose to name SP2 Navalny. A piece will not fall off us, but they will be embarrassed ...
  • Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 6 September 2020 07: 10 New
    +6
    An interesting practice in the West in relation to Russia, to arrange a provocation and force us to explain and justify ourselves. At the same time, whatever you say, all your words either hang in the air, or turn against you.
  • Wwk7260
    Wwk7260 6 September 2020 07: 12 New
    +1
    If the Russian leadership had testicles, it should have stopped long ago the transportation of gas through "Urengoy, Pomary, Uzhgorod" and do not care about the "national property", which in fact is not, and after its ruin and bankruptcy, nationalize it by 100%, change the entire leadership and develop a new policy for the concern, including export.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 08: 23 New
      0
      okay?) in general, did what they dream of and what uncles from overseas are striving for?) are you 15 years old, apparently?)
  • parusnik
    parusnik 6 September 2020 07: 15 New
    +2
    Indeed, it is necessary to take measures, instruct Rospotrebnadzor to figure out what Navalny ate and drank before boarding the plane, and on the plane ... Now food poisoning is like two fingers on the asphalt ... And then Novice, Novice ... components in Novichok , the products have enough ..
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 September 2020 08: 12 New
      +3
      Good morning Alexey, laughing Whatever the bulk eats, it will now be hidden from everyone, like a violin. Will they provide you with snacks? Unknown
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 08: 25 New
      0
      he was checked by doctors after the poisoning and found nothing. what is the point of checking all this with all the data?) rather it is necessary to check the plane on which he was taken away and the doctors of the German clinic, which is more logical)))
      1. Jura 27
        Jura 27 6 September 2020 11: 44 New
        -5
        Quote: carstorm 11
        he was checked by doctors after the poisoning and found nothing. what is the point of checking all this with all the data?) rather it is necessary to check the plane on which he was taken away and the doctors of the German clinic, which is more logical)))

        Yes, the more oak trees in the army, the stronger our defense! (from).
        Just imagine that Lyokha is your eldest son or your daughter's husband and the father of your grandchildren.
        By the way, how is your forecast that there will be fifteen hundred protesters in Khabar?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 6 September 2020 11: 48 New
          0
          quite justified) even in the news they no longer write about it. go down the drain. no one pays attention to them. you would cover your mouth. You assured me that the officer yourself and here write such nonsense. not. what are you cheating, I realized right away, but why bother?))) As for my children, they are still little to get into millions of debts and run to hide from their payments.
          1. Jura 27
            Jura 27 6 September 2020 11: 54 New
            -2
            Quote: carstorm 11
            quite justified) even in the news they no longer write about it. go down the drain. no one pays attention to them. you would cover your mouth. You assured me that the officer yourself and here write such nonsense. not. what are you cheating, I realized right away, but why bother?))) As for my children, they are still little to get into millions of debts and run to hide from their payments.

            Are you watching the wrong news, or, in your opinion, there was no one at the rally yesterday?
            I do not need your advice, from a word at all, so leave them to yourself.
            I am a reserve officer, and for a long time, for several decades.
            It doesn't matter how old your daughters are, just imagine that their husband was poisoned by the state and he fell into a coma, which will end with no one knows how - will you also talk such nonsense about him?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 6 September 2020 11: 57 New
              0
              Yes. sure. I believe. stop this circus already. As for this Saturday, well, it turned out 5000. a little more than I thought. it doesn't change the fact that no one really cares about it.
            2. hohkn
              hohkn 6 September 2020 14: 46 New
              -1
              Quote: Jura 27
              It doesn't matter how old your daughters are, just imagine that their husband was poisoned by the state and he fell into a coma, which is unknown how it will end

              Is this an already established fact, or, as usual, "highlighted like"?
              If an established fact, then please link to a scan of the expert's conclusion (on the drum, in what language). If none of this is present, then your statement smells bad. Don’t you?
              Quote: Jura 27
              I am a reserve officer, and for a long time

              Somehow not noticeable.
  • Maz
    Maz 6 September 2020 07: 22 New
    10
    Quote: Pessimist22
    It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

    As Skripal said while drinking beer in New Zealand - “Don't be afraid of Lyokh, no one has died from a newcomer! Even a cat, it's a pity the poor fellow was burned!
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 September 2020 07: 35 New
    +2
    It would make sense to inflate Lehi's media body if he was known to the US military masses. There, not a single negro knows him ... laughing Compared to the body of Joe Floyd, a well-deserved drug addict and criminal, our Lech is just the smallest dead dung fly. And what about Zhukov's blackening and a pimple on Sobol? Worried. laughing
  • Awaz
    Awaz 6 September 2020 07: 44 New
    +9
    The Germans simply cannot publish or transmit any data to the Russian Federation, for the simple reason that materials for analyzes have been preserved in the Russian Federation, and if suddenly someone really understands and decides to compare them with what is in the Russian Federation and what the Germans invented there, for the Germans there will be cruel bummer.
    Now they are pulling on this, suddenly in the Russian Federation the bulk analyzes will deteriorate, disappear or something else ...
    The further the story develops, the more clearly the analogies with Nemtsov or Skripals become apparent.
    This is an obvious anti-Russian provocation.
    Well, and the reason for the hype in the Western press. I'll tell you this. I listen to Italian music radio and this music radio, after the "poisoning of Navalny" for a week, exaggerated this nonsense to its listeners. But when our specialists worked in Bergamo and treated their patients from coronavirus, only once in the news on this radio they said in one line that Chinese Cuban and Russian doctors are now working in Italy and that's it ...
  • Alex 2020
    Alex 2020 6 September 2020 07: 48 New
    +5
    "prohibited lethal chemical warfare agent"
    If this is indeed a "Novice" and a chemical warfare agent, then some kind of unreliable and ineffective! For some reason, no one has died from its use! In fact, from BOV, even if they are old, everyone is dying, who is fast, who is slower. But they are dying! When working with a real "Novice" the staff is in full chemical protection. God forbid, somewhere something will be open (skin, respiratory organs ...) there were emergency situations. And these all skripals and bulk apparently poisoned with dichlorvos. Cockroaches also behave after him. They seem to have died, and then they wake up.
    1. bairat
      bairat 6 September 2020 08: 03 New
      +6
      The absurdity of the accusations that the Russian Federation allegedly sent Navalny for treatment to Germany after an unsuccessful attempt at poisoning.
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 September 2020 08: 27 New
        +5
        A whole box of such absurdities ...
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 6 September 2020 09: 05 New
          -5
          It’s not absurd that you are inventing all kinds of nonsense. It was like this: first, Lyokha's wife demanded to transport Navalny to Europe, Putin ignored her request. Then Merkel and Macron demanded, and then Putin surrendered - allowed the evacuation of Navalny.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 6 September 2020 09: 40 New
            +4
            Well, of course), of course, Putin was forced to hand over a Russian citizen poisoned by a newcomer so that he could be found faster) a more stupid excuse has not yet been found?)
          2. cniza
            cniza 6 September 2020 11: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            It’s not absurd that you are making up all sorts of nonsense. It was like this: first, Lyokha's wife demanded to transport Navalny to Europe,


            Did his wife tell you personally?
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 6 September 2020 20: 58 New
              0
              All this information is on the Internet.
  • askort154
    askort154 6 September 2020 08: 18 New
    +5
    Germany expects Russia to act "in the coming days" in connection with the incident with opposition leader Alexei Navalny, otherwise retaliatory measures will be taken.

    Is Barbarossa's Plan No. 2 ready?
    How many weeks do you plan to take Moscow? Will we have time to complete the SP-2?
    Or, everything is simpler - poison the "Russophile" Schroeder with Bavarian beer - crying
    Inject the Germans - said A, say B.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 September 2020 08: 25 New
      +5
      The fact that someone else will be poisoned is 100 percent ...
  • Amorphis
    Amorphis 6 September 2020 08: 18 New
    +2
    Send to her mother without any diplomacy!
  • cniza
    cniza 6 September 2020 08: 24 New
    +6
    The coalition urged Merkel not to link the situation with Navalny and the implementation of the Nord Stream 2 project.


    Maybe it's time for us to knit? how they will then sing ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 September 2020 09: 09 New
      +1
      Merkel is an experienced, super, hardware player! She substitutes herself in no hurry ... everything is very streamlined and is always ready to bounce back!
      Let's see in short. soldier
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 September 2020 11: 21 New
        +3
        Of course, she is a very experienced player, but she is leaving, what has she to lose?
        Greetings! hi
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 6 September 2020 12: 39 New
          +1
          He wants to leave with a standing ovation, and not with a whistle and hooting.
          In general, the games are muddy there, while much is not clear.
          Let's see, this issue should be resolved quickly, otherwise the topic will die out.
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 September 2020 13: 43 New
            +4
            I don’t know about the bill quickly, there are suspicions that a whole chain of poisonings could follow and Navalny is just the first swallow.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 6 September 2020 13: 52 New
              +1
              Who is the next candidate?
              Each act of a political performance should have a meaning, a perspective !!! Repetition becomes boring instantly ...
              1. cniza
                cniza 6 September 2020 15: 59 New
                +3
                Here different options are being exaggerated, someone from Ukraine is very Russophobic, but from ours, who run in the West, they are masters of organizing it.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 6 September 2020 16: 16 New
                  +2
                  No, it will not cheer everyone up and everywhere.
                  Let's see how the current act of the play ends, for a start.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 6 September 2020 17: 06 New
                    +3
                    We definitely have no choice, we will observe ...
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 6 September 2020 17: 13 New
                      +2
                      We are, yes, sitting on the rubble.
                      And the assistants of the sovereign should hum like bees, DO BUSINESS.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 6 September 2020 17: 20 New
                        +3
                        They buzz and collect honey for themselves, but they will work for the good on a leftover principle or until they bite ...
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 September 2020 17: 50 New
                        +2
                        All this is sad! It seems that there is no order in the hive for a long time, judging by the swollen faces of the "bee foremen" and the leaky hive!
                      3. cniza
                        cniza 6 September 2020 18: 42 New
                        +3
                        This is all our eternal misfortune and they are in no hurry to put things in order ...
                      4. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 September 2020 19: 09 New
                        +2
                        We know how to fight back against the enemy and eliminate previous omissions ... but it always costs VERY EXPENSIVE!
                      5. cniza
                        cniza 6 September 2020 20: 32 New
                        +2
                        As always, we swing for a long time, and then we cannot stop ...
  • kpd
    kpd 6 September 2020 08: 39 New
    +3
    It is necessary to react, it is necessary to open criminal proceedings on the fact of poisoning. At the time of departure from Omsk, poisoning was not recorded, but upon arrival in Germany it already exists. So it is necessary to investigate who hounded him there on the way and what exactly.
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 6 September 2020 08: 42 New
    -1
    Germany will demand not from Russia, but from her woman!
    laughing
  • shinobi
    shinobi 6 September 2020 08: 42 New
    0
    Poisoning is a tradition of Western spetsura. Ours specializes in "accidents" for those who are younger and "natural causes of illness" for the elderly. And if they are in a hurry, "suicide." That's why Novice and everything connected with him is complete nonsense. But Berezovsky, it is likely, could have been strangled by ours. The financing of the Chechen militants was not forgotten and was not forgiven.
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 6 September 2020 08: 59 New
    +1
    well, it's okay, they themselves trawled, now they require action, a win-win approach, Navalny did not justify the money and time invested in it, they decided that at least some benefit from him would be
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 6 September 2020 09: 03 New
    +1
    Is this the country we won? That she opened her mouth, we will win the second time.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 September 2020 12: 12 New
      +3
      Why only the second one?
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 6 September 2020 18: 48 New
        +1
        Great answer. Totally agree with you.
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 6 September 2020 09: 13 New
    -2
    Quote: Divvergrnt
    Quote: Pessimist22
    It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

    They want to start apologizing and the whole of Russia to kneel down ... These demands are known for a long time already

    They want the investigation to start. I also want to. It's strange that they don't start, they don't talk about something
  • 1536
    1536 6 September 2020 09: 15 New
    +2
    And what did Germany "demanded"? Are the Germans asking to return the GSVG back?
  • unhappy
    unhappy 6 September 2020 09: 36 New
    0
    How can you respect these "censorship"? When Pinochet, for example, spread rot and executed his citizens, everything was fine (this is a suksyn, but it was our American suksyn (s)). But for the crap in Russia they are ready to go to bed! Strongly demand angry
  • tatra
    tatra 6 September 2020 09: 43 New
    +1
    If the enemies of the communists who seized Russia were able to do at least something normally, then before handing Navalny to the hostile West of Russia, which is waging an evil and deceitful information war against Russia, they would have demanded that the Germans be present at all examinations of Navalny, taking tests from him, informing them about the results of his tests, so that Navalny's diagnosis could be agreed with them. Only yesterday Roshal suggested something like that, but everything, late, "the train left."
    1. Ivan Tixiy
      Ivan Tixiy 6 September 2020 09: 49 New
      -1
      What kind of "communists" are they? Those who surrendered power like a drunk fell into a puddle? Or that petty bourgeois party of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation speculating on communist ideas and symbols, parasitizing on the budget and the sale of seats in parliament ...
      1. tatra
        tatra 6 September 2020 10: 17 New
        0
        Even the answers to my comments are boring to me to read, because the enemies of the communists have the same as a blueprint - malice against me and the communists.
        1. Ivan Tixiy
          Ivan Tixiy 8 September 2020 18: 31 New
          -2
          Sorry, you are not a communist. Remember the question from the movie "Chapaev"? Are you for the communists or the Bolsheviks? Think about it, it didn't just sound there. And I have malice for sure, against the swindlers (Zyuganov and K) who lower the communist idea below the plinth for their own selfish purposes.
          1. tatra
            tatra 8 September 2020 18: 34 New
            0
            And why, after so long after my comment, you suddenly decided to confirm my words about you, the enemies of the communists? What kind of necessity is this?
            1. Ivan Tixiy
              Ivan Tixiy 8 September 2020 18: 48 New
              -1
              And what is said wrong? The fact that the party and people who call themselves communists are engaged in personal enrichment, parasitize on the country's budget, being in fact a "room opposition". They trade places in the party list, which is why candidates among the "communists" come across very interesting ones, as it is even ashamed to call them communists. And you just feel sorry for ... because you confused its reflection with the starry sky in the swamp
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 6 September 2020 09: 44 New
    +2
    Did he tell the journalists this, or did he send this message to Russia via diplomatic channels?
    .
    These are two different things if cho
  • Ivan Tixiy
    Ivan Tixiy 6 September 2020 09: 47 New
    +1
    This statement is even hard to call nonsense. So, propaganda chatter designed for very stupid people and the "fifth column"
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 34 New
      +8
      Quote: Ivan Tixiy
      propaganda chatter

      It's not just chatter. This is an attempt to impose their will on us.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 6 September 2020 09: 49 New
    0

    Germany expects from Russia "in the coming days" to act in connection with the incident with the opposition leader Alexei Navalny

    Germany is waiting for recognition and that we will immediately start sprinkling ashes on our heads! Whoever trampled him, whatever he was ill, Putin and Russia are to blame, there is no point in investigating anything further.
  • Barnabas
    Barnabas 6 September 2020 09: 52 New
    0
    Hahah, I don’t know why, but after reading this news, I directly imagine the picture: Germany (skinny fraulein) caught a fly, and runs around, shakes it in front of the nose of Russia (a simple hard worker), and scandals: “I caught a fly! I caught a fly at home! It buzzes! You wanted to swat it!
    (In a bad voice) Do you at least do something already! React somehow !! "
    And Russia, who has never even touched this fly, looks at her and does not understand: "What does this woman want at all? What is she making noise here?"
  • yfast
    yfast 6 September 2020 09: 54 New
    0
    Ultimatums don't help anyone move forward. But if no explanations follow from the Russian side in the coming days, we will have to discuss the answer with our partners

    Will they attack again?
    Or will SP-2 finally be buried in the bottom? This is what the United States is striving for. And Navalny here is a sacrifice on the altar. And what if Putin had not allowed to break the law and export prohibited goods to the west? How would they pitch the accusation to a newbie?
  • Klingon
    Klingon 6 September 2020 09: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: Pessimist22
    It's strange, no one has shown any facts, but they require some kind of explanation.

    Doesn't this remind you of anything? the same thing happened 2 years ago, only then exactly the same notes were sung by British pipes. No evidence was provided but required an explanation within 24 hours.
    unfortunately here I see the failed work of our Foreign Ministry. it seems that no correct conclusions have been drawn.
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 34 New
      10
      Quote: Klingon
      the same thing happened 2 years ago

      The scriptwriter is the same ... the handwriting is identical.
  • meandr51
    meandr51 6 September 2020 10: 06 New
    0
    There can be only one answer: "Not your Teutonic business!" There was no need to send him to Germany at all. Once the poisoning, our bodies are simply obliged to investigate everything on the spot in hot pursuit. Obvious stupidity and violation of the law of the Russian Federation have been made.
  • GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 6 September 2020 10: 07 New
    +3
    If what the Germans say really happened (the use of a combat control agent), our officers would check the plane, airport and hospital day and night in order to exclude other victims.
    It was? Not. So there was no poisoning.
    1. Mishanya 74
      Mishanya 74 6 September 2020 10: 49 New
      -2
      Or does it mean that the substance was taken by Navalny inside .. And someone knows about this and therefore does not consider it necessary to check the plane, airport, and so on
    2. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 33 New
      +9
      Quote: GRIGORIY76
      So there was no poisoning.

      Our doctors, on the basis of bulk analyzes, rejected the poisoning. There was no poisoning. And I trust our doctors, and not some Germans.
  • Operator
    Operator 6 September 2020 10: 24 New
    -1
    Angelka, giving the BND a command to poison Analny, wanted to put pressure on the German business interested in the supply of Russian gas through the SP-2. But after Trump's refusal to support the introduction of sanctions against the Russian Federation, the poisoner found herself in a stupid position. Local businessmen took advantage of this by putting a lame duck (which leaves the Chancellor's post next year) with the device to quack.

    The moronic statement of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Federal Republic of Germany that the accused of a crime (the evidence of the very fact of which has not been presented) must himself prove his non-participation - nothing more than a smokescreen for Angelka to crawl back to her starting positions.

    PS In response, our Ministry of Foreign Affairs should declare that Gadget Maas is a camel and demand that he prove the opposite laughing
  • thinker
    thinker 6 September 2020 10: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    And who was killed by this war poison?

    The information wave is gone, and everyone has already forgotten about the cremated Don Sturges. How much noise was made about the "Newbie" victim. And that's all, silence.
    The court ruled out from the coroner's investigation into the Amesbury poisoning the issue of Russia's involvement

    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/9052311
  • bumerang.
    bumerang. 6 September 2020 11: 15 New
    -3
    Quote: siberalt
    Even Navalny's wife did not find a husband in the Charite (was he there at all?) And the guards at the clinic do not know who is "guarding". So my grandmother also said in two parts who would demand an explanation from whom.

    And he is probably having fun in London with Maria Konstantinovna Singers.
    On August 11, his girlfriend, Maria Konstantinovna Pevchikh, born in 1987, flew in from London, who has connections in parliamentary circles in Great Britain and has her own network of bookstores. She accompanied Navalny on a trip to Novosibirsk and Tomsk, and on August 22 she returned back to London. And so Lesha himself is funny, right? Directly a terrible threat to the regime.
    Who is Maria Pevchikh? https://aif.ru/society/people/kto_takaya_mariya_pevchih
    Maria Pevchikh is a 33-year-old Russian woman who has lived in the UK for a long time. Recently, she has often attracted the attention of the public and the media.

    What is known about Maria Singers?
    In 2010, Maria Pevchikh graduated from the Sociological Faculty of the Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosov. During her senior year, she led the Russian national student delegation to the GXNUMX Youth Forum in Canada.

    For a long time, Maria has been living in London. She leads an active lifestyle: she enjoys sports and trains under the program of "Navy Seals", an elite US military unit. Pevchikh is also engaged in business: she owns a chain of bookstores in the UK and Australia.
    Maria has close ties with Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Yevgeny Chichvarkin, in 2009 she unofficially joined the Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK), which was headed by Alexei Navalny. At that time, the 22-year-old Singers worked as an assistant to one of the British parliamentarians.
    According to the newspaper, Maria comes to Russia two or three times a year and at this time she lives with her mother. However, she tries to keep her movements secret: on the trips of the Singers, she allegedly uses VPN services.

    Maria Pevchikh is not registered in any social network, at least under her own name.


    Cherche la femme. Navalny was on a trip with a secret fellow traveler ...
    https://compromat.group/main/investigations/33266-shershe-...
    Navalny's secret companion

    The editors found out that a 33-year-old young woman, who had recently flown in from London, went to Tomsk with Navalny on the plane. On August 15, the beauty celebrated her birthday and went with Navalny on this kind of a working trip. ......
    Photo by Maria Pevchikh https://compromat.group/uploads/posts/2020-08/1598159753_17582829481_74346.jpg
  • bumerang.
    bumerang. 6 September 2020 12: 02 New
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    Quote: Maz
    As Skripal said while drinking beer in New Zealand - “Don't be afraid of Lyokh, no one has died from a newcomer! Even a cat, it's a pity the poor fellow was burned!

    They burned the English cat, and the Russian ran away ... wassat And where the cats go, of course, where they were born and lived, because the cat is smart. wink Perhaps he made his way to some kind of ship and sailed to some country, well, to China, for example, and then made his way to Moscow on the way resting in hotels. He happened to be in the same hotel where Navalny was staying and lay on Navalny's bed, leaving traces of the newcomer there. So the cat is to blame laughing here he needs to be put on the wanted list. soldier... Well, not quite a cat, but the one who did not catch him in England ... bully
  • cniza
    cniza 6 September 2020 12: 09 New
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    Quote: bumerang.
    He happened to be in the same hotel where Navalny was staying and lay on Navalny's bed, leaving traces of the newcomer there. So the cat is to blame laughing here he needs to be put on the wanted list. soldier... Well, not quite a cat, but the one who did not catch him in England ... bully


    So let them investigate this version of Germany. laughing
  • Brancodd
    Brancodd 6 September 2020 12: 22 New
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    Curiously, comments on German politics from the forum mysteriously evaporate
  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 6 September 2020 13: 04 New
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    Well ... actually, on their pritenzii, you can offer them to bang on them. And not later, but right now.
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 33 New
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      Quote: Rusticolus
      in general, on their pritenzii, you can offer them to bang on them

      Bang? To start a war over an under-oppositionist?
  • VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 6 September 2020 14: 12 New
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    write about this bastard and discuss! Either the fake coronavirus is being discussed, then all sorts of scum!
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 32 New
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      Quote: VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
      fake coronavirus discuss

      If he was "phony" ...
  • Disorder
    Disorder 6 September 2020 14: 35 New
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    Let us recall the lessons of the CWP.
    Nerve agent: sarin, soman, V-gases.
    ....
    Signs of damage: constriction of the pupils; division of saliva; vomiting; convulsions.

    OVs of nerve-paralytic action (including Novichok) are organophosphates, which are characterized by poor solubility in water.
    Another interesting point. When ingested orally, poisoning requires a greater concentration than even when it comes into contact with the skin; when ingested through the respiratory system, several times less concentration is required.

    So the question arises. Why was only Xixiang poisoned, why wasn't the one who brought him the tea poisoned?
  • viktor.
    viktor. 6 September 2020 14: 55 New
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    Quote: Fan-Fan
    Here is a reference: "Novaya Gazeta published a document according to which the Moscow City Administration found him an apartment of 160 meters in an elite building on Dolgorukovskaya Street and sold it at a price of 2,5 million rubles. Given that the minimum market price of such apartments in the year of purchase is 13 million."

    And who of those present here would refuse such an option ??? Only Honestly, putting your hand on your heart!
  • seacap
    seacap 6 September 2020 15: 22 New
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    And we again began to smear snot on our cheeks and apologize, showing concern, making excuses as usual in such cases? Why not ask, for a start, what does the Germans have to do with a crime on our territory with our citizen? That the Olympic scam because of the miserable insolvency and helplessness of our bureaucrats was promoted, they decided to raise the rates and try again? The most offensive thing is that it will work out now, as it always has been since the 90s. Neither intellectually, nor morally, nor mentally "our" (which is no longer ours, if you believe the Polish dead, but not stupid politician) "noble", corrupt, class is not able, and most importantly does not consider it necessary and dangerous for their well-being to protect and defend the interests of their country and their people, whom they betrayed and sold for plunder, despise and hate. Everyone who is not lazy, even any non-state can spit at us or throw a stone, yapping just like that, nothing will happen anyway, why not and no, but the owner will give you a piece of candy or today will not give you a kick, and we just helplessly wipe the spit and express our concerns.
    1. solzh
      solzh 9 September 2020 15: 32 New
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      Quote: seacap
      And we again began to smear snot on our cheeks and apologize, showing concern, making excuses as usual in such cases?

      We cannot talk to them differently. Our oligarchy keeps money with them. Plus, the state keeps stocks in back-end securities. That's how it turns out with us.