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"Already half a thousand sold abroad": the US press on the supply of the Su-30

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Having entered service with the Russian Air Force in 1996, the Su-30 twin-engine heavy fighter has won a worthy place on the world market.


One of the most successful fighters


According to the Military Watch (USA), the key to the success of this aircraft is its versatility. Unlike the Su-27, on the basis of which it was created, the Su-30 does not specialize solely in air superiority, but can be used to combat air and ground targets and enemy ships.

From its predecessor, the fighter inherited "an extremely maneuverable, highly efficient glider." At the same time, he received a more powerful power plant and a new range of weapons, when creating it, composite materials were widely used, the aircraft was equipped with new equipment and electronic warfare systems. For the first time in the world, a thrust vectoring engine was used to increase maneuverability: it was only in 2005 that the United States introduced the F-22 Raptor.

As noted by the specified press, the design of the Su-30 has been significantly improved over the past 25 years, and today it is produced in the most massive batches in comparison with other Russian fighters. First of all, modifications of the Su-30MKI and Su-30SM are in demand.

The latter is widely considered the most cost-effective aircraft to manufacture, with a cost of approximately $ 20 million.

- writes Military Watch, while pointing out that for export deliveries it is several times higher, if we take into account the costs of revision [at the request of customers], weapons, spare parts, training, auxiliary infrastructure.

The Su-30 is still one of the most successful [fighter aircraft] prototypes in the world's export markets.

- explains the publication.

"Already half a thousand sold abroad": the US press on the supply of the Su-30


Geography of supplies


According to Military Watch, over 550 aircraft were delivered abroad. The first customer is China (97 units), the largest is India (over 350 units). Beijing purchased this aircraft in the modification of the Su-30MKK (73 units) and Su-30MK2 (24 units), using it to counter the constant threats from the US Navy in the Taiwan Strait region. India continues to produce the Su-30MKI under license, but its cost is significantly higher than in the Russian and US Air Forces, due to high costs in local production and the integration of non-Russian subsystems.

The users of the fighter are Venezuela (24 Su-30MK2) and Belarus (12 Su-30SM). At the same time, these machines represent "the most combat-ready aircraft in both fleets».

The fighter was especially popular in Southeast Asia due to its high endurance, versatility and versatility [...] It is currently deployed by Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia

- writes Military Watch.

Myanmar recently placed an order for the latest version of the Su-30SM. New applications have recently come from Armenia, Kazakhstan and Belarus, as well as from Angola, which acquired the Su-30K (briefly served in the Indian Air Force and underwent modernization in Belarus). As the newspaper writes, in the near future, you can expect the supply of the Su-30 to Syria and Yemen. It is assumed that by the end of 2020 Iran may order more than 100 Su-30SM (within the framework of licensed production). Potential buyers also include Sri Lanka, Ethiopia, Azerbaijan and Egypt.

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  1. Revival
    Revival 6 September 2020 01: 47 New
    46
    Nice impression from the news!
    I'm tired of almost continuous negative.
    There would be more such real good news
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 6 September 2020 02: 05 New
      10
      The Iranian "news", unfortunately, is more than 10 years old, but still nothing. Together with the purchase of the Chinese J-10. "Scales" vary in favor of the first car, then the second. The need for the region is 160 units. Originally they wanted 120-130 Su-30 and 20-40 "Chinese". But, subsequently, everything changed almost cardinally. The trouble is that Asians are able to give a damn about the sanctions (and get paid with oil, which they already buy), but about our "common people" there are vague doubts. There was a precedent.

      the largest is India (more than 350 units)

      The main contract for 272 aircraft has not yet been implemented, the rest is only intentions, despite the multiple bravura statements.
      1. Revival
        Revival 6 September 2020 02: 24 New
        +4
        It is a pity.
        And about not selling or canceling supplies in support of other people's sanctions, this is of course a question that requires close attention, so to speak.
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 6 September 2020 05: 06 New
        -9
        It is not said in the article that most of the manufactured aircraft are Indian assembly, that in Russia itself there are 133 Su-30s of all modifications in service. In total, about 700 aircraft were produced. It is not difficult to calculate that no more than every 6 aircraft gets into our aircraft. Amazing. Arming your army on a leftover basis.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 06: 33 New
          12
          Quote: YOUR
          It is not difficult to calculate that no more than every 6 aircraft gets into our aircraft. Amazing. Arming your army on a leftover basis

          That - "... it would be better to give to pensioners ...", then "... why abroad, not enough ourselves ..."? The production is very high-tech. And even for export. Just rejoice, and regret that it is not enough ... wink
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 7 September 2020 01: 38 New
            -3
            Well, about retirees it's you. What is there to be happy about? Here the other day, the article was glad that ONE Mi-28 entered service.
        2. Rubi0
          Rubi0 6 September 2020 09: 31 New
          -1
          To re-equip for more, it is necessary for the army to earn this money, this is either a payment for the deployment of Russian bases to ensure peace and stability, or the sale of weapons, or a war and plunder of popuas, and not vice versa, it pays extra for the Russian bases, planes are all for themselves, but plunder the country this is generally taboo, we're not the USA ... And for some reason everyone wants to live like the USA wassat
        3. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 6 September 2020 09: 55 New
          0
          Quote: YOUR
          that Russia itself is armed with 133 Su-30s of all modifications.

          Did you read this on Wikipedia? ..
          The Su-30 is not the only fighter in service with the Russian Air Force.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 7 September 2020 01: 29 New
            +1
            The article discusses the Su-30 as the best Russian fighter in service.
          2. YOUR
            YOUR 7 September 2020 03: 28 New
            +1
            And you do not know any other sources besides the wiki? I can suggest, for example, the website of the Ministry of Defense.
        4. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 10: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: YOUR
          133 Su-30

          I'll correct you a little. It seems like they have restored / are restoring part of the Su-30 (Su-27PU) - 5 units from the first series of production of the early 90s
  2. Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 6 September 2020 01: 49 New
    -1
    One of the most successful fighters

    Is this a recommendation to Iran before the lifting of sanctions?
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 6 September 2020 09: 58 New
      0
      The Su-30 is still one of the most successful prototypes [fighters] in export markets of the world.
      1. VO3A
        VO3A 6 September 2020 22: 57 New
        +1
        He will be successful for a long time. A two-seater airplane can be used as a spark for training new pilots, an operator in battle can provide a wide variety of functions, it is preferable to use this airplane as a command post, including for command or control, or joint work with a UAV ...
        If they also carry out the planned installation of the engine from the Su-35 to the modernized version, the possibilities will increase ... And then the PRNK with AFAR ...
        1. Hexenmeister
          Hexenmeister 7 September 2020 09: 35 New
          -4
          He will be successful for a long time. The two-seater plane can be used as ...
          Su-30 will be successful in the broadest sense of the word when the characteristics of a two-seat fighter are the same as those of a single-seat fighter. Yes, it is successful in the momentary plugging of its holes, successful for the "third world countries", but in its current form it must be seriously modernized for use in the "best" videoconferencing systems.
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 7 September 2020 09: 42 New
            -2
            In 10 years, we will have about 500 attack aircraft, these are Su-30, Su-35, Su-34, including a meager number of Su-57 and MiG-35, taking into account the pace of construction ... The rest will fall apart and develop a resource .... They are already considering all the non-working stuff in the form of combat aircraft ... You can see.
            https://aviation21.ru/sostav-boevogo-aviaparka-vks-rossii-na-2020-god/
            1. IvanT
              IvanT 7 September 2020 11: 07 New
              -3
              In 10 years, aviation will be unmanned. But somehow you didn't think about it ...
              1. VO3A
                VO3A 7 September 2020 11: 09 New
                +2
                It will be, maybe later, someday ... Don't rave out loud, you can get into a bad situation, and even worse, a place ...
                1. IvanT
                  IvanT 7 September 2020 16: 21 New
                  -2
                  Ride on carts ... Calculator for you evil!
          2. Hexenmeister
            Hexenmeister 8 September 2020 11: 31 New
            0
            A successful Su-30 in the broadest sense of the word will be when the characteristics of a two-seat fighter are the same as that of a single-seat fighter ... but in its current form it must be seriously modernized to be able to be used in the "best" aerospace forces.
            Well minusers, read the news! A major upgrade is coming!
            As previously reported, within the framework of the import substitution program on the base Su-30SM, the ROC "Adaptation-Su" was launched. ... However, further it was decided to maximize the unification of the Su-30SM and Su-35S. The version with the installation of the AL-41F-1S and the Irbis radar, coupled with the previously introduced changes, received the Su-30SM2 index.
  3. And why do you need
    And why do you need 6 September 2020 01: 54 New
    +2
    An excellent fighter turned out, for more of them in the Aerospace Forces.
    1. Revival
      Revival 6 September 2020 02: 22 New
      +4
      I think, as an amateur, we don't need more of them in the videoconferencing.
      The videoconferencing needs more modern aircraft
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 6 September 2020 02: 08 New
    -5
    Hasn't it been replaced by the Su-35?
    And in export too.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 6 September 2020 02: 49 New
      0
      Not. They run in parallel to the Russian Air Force and are sold the same way.
      https://topwar.ru/174037-minoborony-ozvuchilo-plany-po-zakupke-su-30sm2-i-jak-130.html
      https://topwar.ru/174033-stali-izvestny-sroki-zakljuchenija-dopolnitelnogo-kontrakta-na-postavku-su-35s.html
    2. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 6 September 2020 03: 56 New
      10
      Not certainly in that way. The Su 35 is larger than a fighter, like the Su 27, it is single-seat, while the Su 30 is a two-seater, with an armament operator, more versatile.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 6 September 2020 08: 54 New
        +2
        Thank you for the clarification drinks
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 6 September 2020 10: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Hasn't it been replaced by the Su-35?
      And in export too.

      Greetings! And that Israel is not going to acquire purely its own plane?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 6 September 2020 10: 46 New
        +5
        Not. This is a financial failure. Sweden with Gripen is a prime example.
        Although possible in the future, jet drones of their own design. But with purchased engines. They can be used both in their own air forces and for export.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 6 September 2020 10: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Not. This is a financial failure. Sweden with Gripen is a prime example.

          It is a failure now, but in 10 years, for example, it is not yet known. Israel is constantly in a tense relationship with its neighbors.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 6 September 2020 11: 06 New
            +7
            Until we have tension in the Air Force. "Flightless Penguins" wink come regularly, aging F-16s are gradually written off.
            At some point, jet drones will begin to "steer" the world. It will be important not to miss this turn.
      2. The eye of the crying
        The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 14: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        And that Israel is not going to acquire purely its own plane?


        We tried it once - it turned out so-so.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 6 September 2020 17: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Eye of the Crying
          We tried it once - it turned out so-so.

          That's just the point that more than once they get it
          However, various manned aircraft are also produced in Israel.
          In 1963, the IAI Westwind executive jet was created. It has been exported to various countries including the USA, France, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, and more.
          In 1969, the IAI Arava transport aircraft was created. This aircraft has been exported to many countries, mainly Latin America.
          In 1971, the IAI Nesher fighter-bomber was created, which was also supplied to Argentina.
          In 1973, the IAI Kfir all-weather multipurpose fighter was created, which had several modifications (Kfir C.1, Kfir C.2, Kfir C.7 and Kfir C.10). The aircraft was exported to Colombia, Ecuador, Sri Lanka and the United States.
          In 1980, the training IAI Tzukit was established.
          In 1986, the IAI Lavi multi-role fighter was created, which Israel had to abandon due to US pressure. On the basis of this aircraft, the Chengdu J-10 multipurpose fighter was built in China.
          In 1990 BAe / HS 748 AEW was created jointly with India.
          In 2005, the ATG Javelin training aircraft was created.
          Around the same time, the Eitam aircraft was created.
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 17: 47 New
            +2
            It was, of course, about a combat aircraft. Modern if it is not immediately clear.

            Quote: APASUS
            In 1973, the IAI Kfir all-weather multirole fighter was created,


            This is an upgraded Mirage 5.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 6 September 2020 17: 51 New
              0
              Quote: Eye of the Crying
              It was, of course, about a combat aircraft. Modern if it is not immediately clear.

              Okay, then what are IAI Nesher or IAI Lavi coffee grinders?
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 17: 56 New
                +1
                IAI Lavi is a discontinued project that is so legendary that it will take your breath away.
          2. ydjin
            ydjin 12 September 2020 13: 39 New
            0
            "In 1973, the IAI Kfir all-weather multirole fighter was created, with several modifications (Kfir C.1, Kfir C.2, Kfir C.7 and Kfir C.10)."
            Kfir was not created, but simply copied from Mirage 3. As well as Galil with AKM. Kfir's movements are amer. Few countries can have the full technology of the structure of combat aircraft based on their production. The fingers of one hand will be enough to list them. And Russia is one of them.
        2. fider
          fider 6 September 2020 17: 43 New
          -1
          The eye of the crying
          We tried it once - it turned out so-so.


          We tried it twice: once it got “Kfir”, and the second time - “Lavi.” “Kfir” was on the level, and “Lavi” turned out superb, but the states slaughtered it. Then it was sold to the Chinese, and it turned out J-10. So. hi
          1. The eye of the crying
            The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 17: 49 New
            +1
            Lavi did not have time to turn out any.

            Quote: fider
            ... "Kfir"
            .

            This is Mirage 5.

            Quote: fider
            Then it was sold to the Chinese, and it turned out to be J-10.


            I know this legend. However, I cannot estimate how many J-10 from Lavi.
            1. fider
              fider 6 September 2020 18: 07 New
              -1
              The eye of the crying
              Lavi did not have time to get any

              I saw him alive. There was no episode, yes.
              "Kfir"
              This is Mirage 5.

              Well then, SU-30, 35, etc. is SU-27
              1. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 18: 10 New
                +1
                Quote: fider
                I saw him alive. There was no episode, yes.


                This means that Lavi was not there. You never know what prototypes someone riveted.

                Quote: fider
                Well then, SU-30, 35, etc. is SU-27


                I cannot judge the Su-35, but the Su-30 and Su-27 are like the F-15E and F-15C.
                1. fider
                  fider 6 September 2020 18: 18 New
                  -3
                  The eye of the crying
                  "I can't judge the Su-35"

                  Well, then one shouldn't judge about "Kfir" and "Lavi" from afar. The fact that they were created by one and a half engineers is already a feat. There were dozens of institutes in the USSR, or maybe hundreds.
                  1. The eye of the crying
                    The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 18: 25 New
                    +1
                    Quote: fider
                    Well, then you shouldn't judge about "Kfir" and "Lavi" from afar.


                    Su-35 and Kfir are connected in almost no way. About Lavi, I just said that the project was terminated. It was not in service, so there is nothing to talk about.

                    Quote: fider
                    The fact that they were created by one and a half engineers is already a feat.


                    If you really think that one and a half engineers are capable of creating a modern fighter - your business.
  5. mvg
    mvg 6 September 2020 02: 57 New
    -4
    India assembles itself, China has long established the unlicensed J-16, the question is: where are 550 pieces from?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 September 2020 04: 30 New
      +8
      and what does India do the assembly from?)))
      1. mvg
        mvg 9 September 2020 14: 28 New
        0
        and what does India do the assembly from?)))

        We are not talking about car kits. India produces everything itself. Simple, unlike the PRC under license. By the way, avionics is also different from the Russian one. 550 boards is a very high figure. Even if we take the Su-27/30/35 in total, there are not so many operators of these machines. You can count on the fingers. Largest India. 300 boards, of which about 30 car kits. Then came the production. Here is the PRC, yes, I bought almost 200 sets of Su-27s, before it began to produce "own" J-11/15/16
  6. Shuttle
    Shuttle 6 September 2020 03: 30 New
    +2
    The Amer article is intended solely to revive its national producers by trolling them. As a result, Congress will be begging for money again.
  7. 123456789
    123456789 6 September 2020 07: 01 New
    -8
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Hasn't it been replaced by the Su-35?
    And in export too.

    A very correct question! It's like in the midst of the Great Patriotic War to continue the production of "Ishachkov" and "Seagulls." Why produce obsolete aircraft at all if there is already a new one - the Su-57? After all, every newly released Su-30; 35 is the unreleased Su-57! A question for effective managers. soldier
    1. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 6 September 2020 10: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: 123456789
      A very correct question! It's like in the midst of the Great Patriotic War to continue the production of "Ishachkov" and "Seagulls." Why produce obsolete aircraft at all if there is already a new one - the Su-57? After all, every newly released Su-30; 35 is the unreleased Su-57! A question for effective managers.

      If you haven't noticed, there is an article on the export of Ishachkov and Seagulls. Each su-30 sold is a material support for the su-57 manufacturers. And read and try to learn the difference between the su-30 and su-57 class aircraft.
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 10: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: 123456789
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Hasn't it been replaced by the Su-35?
      And in export too.

      A very correct question! It's like in the midst of the Great Patriotic War to continue the production of "Ishachkov" and "Seagulls." Why produce obsolete aircraft at all if there is already a new one - the Su-57? After all, every newly released Su-30; 35 is the unreleased Su-57! A question for effective managers. soldier


      I still do not understand what prevents the Su-35UB from being made at last, and to start producing it instead of the Su-30SM
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 6 September 2020 11: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Su-35UB, and start producing it instead of the Su-30SM

        The question is about financing. You need to spend money on the development and modernization of factories. New purchases and operation are subject to different cost items. The fact that in the end we will spend more on the operation of the vinaigrette from the aircraft than on unification does not bother our bosses.
    3. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 6 September 2020 11: 42 New
      0
      Quote: 123456789
      Why produce obsolete aircraft at all if there is already a new one - the Su-57?

      Firstly, the Su-57 is not yet outdated for the Air Force, secondly, the Su-30/35 are not outdated in 10 years, they will only start to become obsolete, thirdly, fighters are needed here and now, and not when the Su-57 begins to be mass-produced and mastered in Fourth, the Su-57 will be much more expensive than the 30/35 and it will not be massive.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 12: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Grazdanin
        secondly, the Su 30/35 are not outdated in 10 years, they will only begin to become obsolete, thirdly, fighters are needed here and now


        Quite right .......... And in general, in my opinion, a serious mistake was made during the modernization of the Su-27cm, when they refused to install a new radar, or although replacing the old antenna with the PAR Perot
      2. Hexenmeister
        Hexenmeister 6 September 2020 13: 15 New
        0
        It is impossible to discuss all the SU-30s in bulk, depending on the letters at the end there will be planes from completely different "parents" (T-10, T-10M), and the Su-30 variants, using the N-001 in various versions, have long been outdated. and only a very serious modernization can "save" them.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 6 September 2020 13: 21 New
          0
          We naturally discuss the latest modifications. This is what I meant. Fighters are aging, they need to be replaced and modernized. Already, there is a shortage of fighters in the Aerospace Forces, if you wait for the Su 57, the situation will become catastrophic. Yes, there won't be many of them
    4. 123456789
      123456789 6 September 2020 16: 48 New
      -1
      Never argue with amateurs. You will descend to their level, where they will crush you with their experience
      Mark Twain
      1. Local from the Volga
        Local from the Volga 6 September 2020 20: 44 New
        -1
        You are the main dilettante here, under cover, go to the construction battalion, argue for a more fashionable excavator!
    5. The eye of the crying
      The eye of the crying 6 September 2020 17: 52 New
      0
      Quote: 123456789
      After all, every newly released Su-30; 35 is the unreleased Su-57!


      What nonsense ... Su-30 is produced in Irkutsk, Su-57 - in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. And the Su-30SM2 is a completely modern machine.
    6. Local from the Volga
      Local from the Volga 6 September 2020 20: 43 New
      -1
      Do you really have anything to do with the Air Force ?!
  8. Pytnik
    Pytnik 6 September 2020 08: 18 New
    +3
    Quote: lexus
    The Iranian "news", unfortunately, is more than 10 years old, but still nothing. Together with the purchase of the Chinese J-10. "Scales" vary in favor of the first car, then the second.

    So it remains to wait until October 20 ... wink Then it will become clear in which direction Iran will look, and do not forget that Putin will call Netanyahu, the Saudis and everyone who "breathes unevenly" towards Iran, they say, do not sell, we will make gold, and of course they will be deceived ...
  9. Asadbek
    Asadbek 6 September 2020 08: 34 New
    +4
    Uzbekistan also ordered these beautiful cars. Already started to enter the Air Force
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 6 September 2020 09: 31 New
    -2
    Quote: Revival
    Nice impression from the news!

    Here is just a list of countries. The countries are mostly not rich, probably the majority is on credit, someone for palm oil, someone for help. China is out of this row, but he himself will not buy much, will make a copy if necessary. hi
    1. Dmitry Makarov
      Dmitry Makarov 6 September 2020 10: 03 New
      -2
      Don't be nonsense. Russia is not the USSR, since 1991 not a single patron has been sent Abroad for free, do you live in mossy categories of the Soviet past, perhaps you are illiterate, or are you deliberately lying?
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 6 September 2020 11: 22 New
        -1
        Dmitry, are you from the moon !? As soon as an agreement on the supply of weapons is signed in the news (AND ALL CHANNELS WE HAVE GOVERNMENTAL) it is reported under what conditions. Usually there is an intergovernmental agreement on a loan. And not only to "friends" but also to Turkey (NATO)
        Loans are repaid I DON'T KNOW (do not report) But you are aware of Soviet loans, we forgive tens of billions of dollars.
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 6 September 2020 12: 15 New
          0
          Usually there is an intergovernmental loan agreement. And not only for "friends" but also for Turkey (NATO)


          Everything is correct. You give credit to the country. With the money of this loan, you pay for the work of your enterprises and give the finished product to the state - the borrower. The state borrower cannot pay off, but can give his land for 59 years as a base. (this is so - exaggerated). The whole world lives like that. Also news to me. On the contrary, everyone wants to give loans. It is always beneficial to give a loan. And it will be beneficial in the future. And not a penny goes to the side and the client is always there.
  11. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 6 September 2020 09: 57 New
    -4
    And now the Su-30 will be upgraded to unification with the Su-35, so that the market for Russian aircraft manufacturers is open for many years to come.
  12. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 6 September 2020 10: 16 New
    0
    Quote: mvg
    assembles itself,

    A disassembled plane is delivered to India, they are assembling it crookedly. Bingo. Everyone is happy.
  13. Wolf
    Wolf 6 September 2020 11: 11 New
    0
    The SU 30 is exactly what Iran needs and, if possible, in the newest version with a new anti-ship missiles. They will be able to pay oil, etc. If Iran wants a lot of vasosphere they will coupe SU 30.
  14. fa2998
    fa2998 6 September 2020 12: 20 New
    -1
    Quote: Interlocutor
    Usually there is an intergovernmental loan agreement. And not only for "friends" but also for Turkey (NATO)


    Everything is correct. You give credit to the country. With the money of this loan, you pay for the work of your enterprises and give the finished product to the state - the borrower. The state borrower cannot pay off, but can give his land for 59 years as a base. (this is so - exaggerated). The whole world lives like that. Also news to me. On the contrary, everyone wants to give loans. It is always beneficial to give a loan. And it will be beneficial in the future. And not a penny goes to the side and the client is always there.

    Probably it depends on whom to give credit! We do not have bases now, but according to estimates, Russia has already forgiven about 100 billion dollars. Yes, they have occupied the hands of workers. Armed at their own expense someone else's army, for the money of their taxpayers, then write off. Wild economy! ...
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 September 2020 14: 26 New
    +1
    Su30 (And already Su35) needs modernization with turbojet engine and avionics and AFAR, up to level 4 +++. And for another 20 years you can sell and sell them and use them yourself.
  16. Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 September 2020 17: 32 New
    +1
    Do not offer oil and palm oil. Only gold and rubles.
  17. Andrew3000
    Andrew3000 6 September 2020 23: 56 New
    0
    The Military Watch logo is the Su-35!
  18. AML
    AML 7 September 2020 09: 19 New
    0
    Quote: 123456789
    After all, every newly released Su-30; 35 is the unreleased Su-57! A question for effective managers. soldier

    Or in another way. Each su57 issued is 3 unreleased su30
  19. pavelty
    pavelty 7 September 2020 11: 57 New
    -2
    What nonsense ... what are the 100 planes to Iran ??? What Sri Lanka)) Ethiopia ...