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"Ensure the absence of personnel": Donetsk warned Kiev about striking at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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"Ensure the absence of personnel": Donetsk warned Kiev about striking at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The Armed Forces of the Donetsk People's Republic received an order to destroy the engineering structures of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the demarcation line in the area of ​​the Shumy settlement near Horlivka. The corresponding order was given by the head of the republic, Denis Pushilin, according to the official website of the head of the DPR.


The statement notes that the DPR has repeatedly called on the Ukrainian side to bury trenches in the area of ​​N of the item. The noises at the contact line, dug after the declaration of the armistice and return the troops to their original positions, but Kiev did not react to this. In this regard, Donetsk decided to independently destroy the fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In this regard, I officially declare that in accordance with clause "e" of additional measures, I decided to issue an order to open fire on illegally erected engineering structures in the area of ​​the Shumy settlement (600 m north-east of the Shumy settlement - the area of ​​the newly equipped Ukrainian positions)

- said in a statement.

Pushilin urged the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to ensure the absence of personnel in the specified area from 08:00 on September 7, 2020.

I call on the Ukrainian side to ensure the absence of personnel in the indicated area from 08:00 on September 7, 2020. We don't need human sacrifice. We don't need to break the truce. We only want to comply with the agreements reached

- he said.

The official notification will be sent to the Ukrainian side through the representatives in the contact group, Kiev will receive the detailed coordinates of the location of the operation through the JCCC. Control over the fulfillment of the requirements should be carried out by a special monitoring mission of the OSCE.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 5 September 2020 11: 28 New
    43
    "Ensure the absence of personnel": Donetsk warned Kiev about striking at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    In our practice, honestly, I see it for the first time ... Let's see what happens yes

    I call on the Ukrainian side to ensure the absence of personnel in the indicated area from 08:00 on September 7, 2020. We don't need human sacrifice. We don't need to break the truce. We only want to comply with the agreements reached

    Exactly on the day of the liberation of Donbass 08.09.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 5 September 2020 11: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: Insurgent
      In our practice, honestly, I see this for the first time ...

      It's not only in our ...
      As if not in the world!
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          1. KAV
            KAV 5 September 2020 13: 19 New
            +7
            I think that Ukrainians, on the contrary, will leave drugs in their positions. After the strike, there will be many casualties, which the Ukrainians will try to use as a pretext for the resumption of military operations. And then the West will ask for military assistance.
            1. Kronos
              Kronos 5 September 2020 13: 26 New
              -18 qualifying.
              So there will be no blow, these are empty threats.
              1. Consul
                Consul 5 September 2020 15: 27 New
                16
                Quote: Kronos
                So there will be no blow, these are empty threats.

                No one is threatening. The statement states:
                I call on the Ukrainian side to ensure the absence of personnel in the indicated area from 08:00 on September 7, 2020. We don't need human sacrifice. We don't need to break the truce. We only want to comply with the agreements reached

                I don't consider this a threat. This is a requirement to comply with the agreements that the Ukrainian side is not fulfilling.
                The DPR has repeatedly called on the Ukrainian side to bury trenches in the area of ​​N of the item. Noises at the contact line, dug after the declaration of the armistice and return the troops to their original positions

                If Ukraine does not want to correct the violations, the LDNR will do it for their place. So, there are no threats.
                1. Kronos
                  Kronos 5 September 2020 15: 43 New
                  +1
                  I mean, it is unlikely that the promised blow will be carried out.
                2. alexmach
                  alexmach 5 September 2020 16: 23 New
                  +1
                  If Ukraine does not want to correct the violations, the LDNR will do it for their place. So, there are no threats.

                  And by what means they will do it then. Will they not violate the agreements themselves? There are no people willing to fix this violation?
                  the Ukrainians would not have been fools after such a warning with the indication of coordinates, they would have withdrawn the troops, but prepared for a counter-battery fight.
                3. Avior
                  Avior 5 September 2020 17: 51 New
                  0
                  The agreements do not provide for anything like this.
                  It's just that they will be disrupted, accusations of the DPR.
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 September 2020 13: 31 New
              +9
              Quote: KAV
              I think that Ukrainians, on the contrary, will leave drugs in their positions. There will be many victims after the impact

              I hope that our specialists will be able to arrange SMS messaging to the phones of ukrovoyak in positions, their relatives, colleagues out of positions.

              Let them think about why they are left in position for slaughter ...
            3. 7,62h54
              7,62h54 5 September 2020 14: 22 New
              12
              Journalists are already rushing to their positions to document the dastardly terrorist attack on peaceful Nazis.
            4. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 5 September 2020 18: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: KAV
              I think that Ukrainians, on the contrary, will leave drugs in their positions. After the strike, there will be many casualties, which the Ukrainians will try to use as a pretext for the resumption of military operations. And then the West will ask for military assistance.

              My opinion is that the Ukrainians / tech. The APU hereinafter referred to as / got fat and plump for a full-fledged offensive operation in the area of ​​the city of Donetsk. Again, my opinion, I believe that Moscow will not just look like that, maybe. to Moscow from this approach direction, it turns out about 1000 km for a mechanized advance group. It is clear that there is something to fend off in the flank / and until 1 there was ... /, it is not at all about operations in the region of the country of Russia. There is such a delicate moment that if the Armed Forces of Ukraine start, break through and achieve clear success, then the RF Ministry of Defense will have to conduct unplanned fleeting exercises / and which river is the operational line during these possible maneuvers --- yes, he knows it, or the Dnieper, or Bug. Yes, once it is essential for the Airborne Forces and mechanized units leaving in the 14th on the Elba river.
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 September 2020 23: 05 New
                +1
                to Moscow from this flight direction it turns out about 1000 km

                From Shostka to Moscow - 460 km in a straight line.
          2. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 5 September 2020 13: 51 New
            -1
            Why are you being fooled by him, Victor? he's Meehan .. what to take from him ..
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 6 September 2020 15: 02 New
              0
              the site still has supporters of Meehan, it's really cool .. I respect .. the network of listeners is strong ...
        2. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 5 September 2020 14: 26 New
          +8
          It's time to punish Bandervism
          It is not necessary to punish her, to destroy this utter filth at the root, it does not fit in my head how you can call yourself a Bandera !? To understand people who, from some political views, identify themselves as National Socialists, fascists and other LGBT people, is something else, but when they call themselves fans of rabid animals and make them national heroes, it's just trash. How could the Ukrainians forget what these heroes were doing with their own people, even the Nazis were shocked by them, not enemies, not invaders, but their own ??? Paradox.
        3. Glenni
          Glenni 5 September 2020 14: 55 New
          -3
          So what's stopping you? Take your weapon and go punish! What problems?
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 5 September 2020 16: 16 New
        0
        As if not in the world!

        Oh no, don't tell. In a long trench war, more than once
        "hey you there, bend down we are starting to come to life"
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 September 2020 12: 14 New
      +4
      Quote: Insurgent
      Exactly on the day of the liberation of Donbass 08.09.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX.

      We will congratulate you. Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 5 September 2020 12: 15 New
        +9
        Quote: tihonmarine
        We will congratulate you. Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten.

        The important thing is that WE have not forgotten OWN.
    3. megadeth
      megadeth 5 September 2020 13: 03 New
      +1
      We must follow the example of the "FSA" they warned us in Syria 15 minutes before the massirs. missile strike, but the Syrian government was not warned at all. God help you DNR to fill up more ukronatsik !!!
    4. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 5 September 2020 13: 26 New
      +1
      From the village of Shumy to equate the position of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the ground to Kiev itself. Will such an order ever come? good drinks
    5. venik
      venik 5 September 2020 13: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      In our practice, honestly, I see it for the first time ... Let's see what happens

      ========
      Let's hope for the best: "man сказал - man - did! ". And the soldier (conscripts) will still be taken out of there! Well, if one of the" national patriots "remains - well, so much the worse for them! Although these" patriots "usually run away first!
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 5 September 2020 13: 35 New
        +8
        Quote: venik
        soldier (conscripts) - from there they will still be taken out!


        There and so the APU has no conscripts. All mercenaries fight for money.

        You have extremely old information about the conscripts in ATO-OOS.

        1. venik
          venik 5 September 2020 13: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          There and so the APU has no conscripts. All mercenaries fight for money.

          ==========
          Well, if not, so no! Less problems! soldier It's a pity only for the "conscripts" - who don't ask!
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 5 September 2020 13: 42 New
            +4
            Quote: venik
            It is a pity only "conscripts" - who are not asked!

            Who are these?
      2. Avior
        Avior 5 September 2020 17: 53 New
        +2
        Conscripts do not fight in the ATO, there are only volunteers.
    6. Berg berg
      Berg berg 5 September 2020 14: 14 New
      +1
      I will not be surprised that by this time the ukrofashists will drive the civilian population there and there will be victims among them! It is necessary to make the OSCE be sure to control everything!
    7. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 September 2020 14: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Insurgent
      In our practice, honestly, I see this for the first time ...

      In principle, everything is correct. Why unnecessary sacrifices? Pushilin is trying to somehow persuade the l / s of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to his side. Not everyone there are such stubborn "Bandera"
    8. Maz
      Maz 5 September 2020 14: 59 New
      +2
      Good luck
    9. maverick5334
      maverick5334 5 September 2020 18: 11 New
      0
      Not in the Donbass, of course, but in Syria there was a similar practice when the Americans launched a missile strike, then the Russian troops (respectively, the Syrian, too, in the exhaust) warned about the strike.
  2. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 5 September 2020 11: 30 New
    12
    Rare correctness. We will wait the day after tomorrow.
    1. Husit
      Husit 5 September 2020 11: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      Rare correctness. We will wait the day after tomorrow.

      Let's wait, I hope these are not just words, as before ..
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 September 2020 11: 33 New
    -12 qualifying.
    I heard tales that in 2014, when all the cruelty of this war had not yet manifested itself, there were "agreements":
    Like we will do an artillery attack on you at 16:00, where should we hit?
    Well, let's go across the field, ours are not there ... And the answer is where to throw?
    - Hit the landing, we will warn the guys not to come close either ...
    True, this is all according to third-party stories.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 September 2020 11: 48 New
      14
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I heard tales that in 2014, when all the cruelty of this war had not yet manifested itself, there were "agreements"

      It was different. A long time ago. And not at such a high official level.

      And in this case, this is not an "agreement," but an alternative to choosing the enemy under the pressure of an ultimatum presented.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 5 September 2020 13: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: Insurgent
        And in this case, this is not an agreement, but an alternative to the enemy's choice under the pressure of an ultimatum .

        hi
        Yes, provided that this is not another frown by Mr. Pushilin. Said "A" - do "A", otherwise keep silent, swallowing a bitter pill (I think so).
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 September 2020 13: 37 New
          +7
          Quote: Lelek
          Yes, provided that this is not another frown by Mr. Pushilin. Said "A" - do "A", otherwise keep silent, swallowing a bitter pill (I think so).

          Actually, I wrote about this:
          Quote: Insurgent
          In our practice, honestly, I see this for the first time ... Let's see what happens


          As for me, I think that Pushilin "burned the bridges behind him." He (we) have nowhere to go back ...
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 5 September 2020 14: 18 New
            -1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Pushilin "burned bridges behind him."

            And this "auto-da-fe" is by no means a spontaneous act, but a completely agreed-upon event. yes
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 September 2020 14: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: Paranoid50

              And this "auto-da-fe" is by no means a spontaneous act, but a completely agreed-upon event.

              I really have it yes
      2. venik
        venik 5 September 2020 14: 14 New
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        And in this case, this is not an "agreement," but an alternative to choosing the enemy under the pressure of an ultimatum presented.

        =======
        Well correctly!!!
  4. igorra
    igorra 5 September 2020 11: 35 New
    +6
    It is better to ensure the absence of personnel all the way to Lviv.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 September 2020 12: 17 New
      -2
      Quote: igorra
      It is better to ensure the absence of personnel all the way to Lviv.

      Better to give Galicia to the Poles.
      1. Temples
        Temples 5 September 2020 12: 32 New
        0
        It is better for the Poles to triple the revolution and divide Poland into parts.
        Yes, divide so that the Polish language in these parts was banned.
        Do the same with the rest of the "neighbors".
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 11: 42 New
    +4
    Ready or not, here I come! At the same time, demonstrate the power of artillery. This is often more effective than any verbal threats. The lessons of Ilovaisk and Debaltsevo are forgotten. At least remind me so.
    1. Husit
      Husit 5 September 2020 11: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Ready or not, here I come! At the same time, demonstrate the power of artillery. This is often more effective than any verbal threats. The lessons of Ilovaisk and Debaltsevo are forgotten. At least remind me so.

      Eh Zhen, let your words be in the ears of our government and Novrossia! Bandera is all impudent and impudent .. It's time to strike Stalin's first blow !!!!!
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 12: 01 New
        -1
        Quote: Husit
        Eh Zhen, let your words be in the ears of our government and Novrossia

        Not just everything there. That is why they let them down while on the brakes. Donbass is not yet Russia. Although supported, obviously.
  6. iouris
    iouris 5 September 2020 11: 51 New
    +2
    Everything is correct. Only "I do not call", but "I notify".
    About "human sacrifice", in general, do not.
  7. Sailor
    Sailor 5 September 2020 11: 56 New
    +5
    Strong move, bravo!
    1. Avior
      Avior 5 September 2020 17: 55 New
      +2
      This is if the fire is opened. If not, then it's a liquid move.
  8. fn34440
    fn34440 5 September 2020 12: 00 New
    +2
    It is high time to destroy all fortifications from Shumov to Ukrainian Chop.
    Immediately the kipesh with Navalny will subside, they will return to Russia healthy, the missing "Skripals, the sanctions will be lifted. All diseases are treated by radical intervention of surgeons," not allowing peretonits "!
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 12: 12 New
      -3
      Quote: fn34440
      It is high time to destroy all fortifications from Shumov to Ukrainian Chop.
      The kipesh with Navalny will immediately subside, the Skripals will return to Russia healthy, missing, and the sanctions will be lifted. All diseases are treated with radical intervention of surgeons, "preventing peretonitis"!

      Is it your sarcasm? It is necessary to destroy the FS, there are no options. And the rest, listed by you, resembles a banter, since it is not at all connected with the delivered ultimat
      1. fn34440
        fn34440 5 September 2020 12: 20 New
        -3
        "Is this your sarcasm? You need to destroy the FS, there are no options here. And the rest you listed looks like a banter, since it has nothing to do with the ultimatum."
        I remember the last case of a similar SARKAZM and STEOB, which was confirmed in Belovezhie by the signatures of Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich, and where were you on that day with a similar question ???
        1. FenH
          FenH 5 September 2020 12: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: fn34440
          "Is this your sarcasm? You need to destroy the FS, there are no options here. And the rest you listed looks like a banter, since it has nothing to do with the ultimatum."
          I remember the last case of a similar SARKAZM and STEOB, which was confirmed in Belovezhie by the signatures of Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich, and where were you that day with a similar question ???

          I finished school.
          Now, decipher how all of the above will be fulfilled by you?
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 5 September 2020 12: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: FenH
        You need to destroy the FS, there are no options here.

        You can offer another option winked - disassemble carefully by a brigade of Uzbeks, in accordance with the construction estimate. But, for these lads, this proposal will work only after
        Quote: fn34440
        destroy all fortifications from Shumov to Ukrainian Chop
        1. FenH
          FenH 5 September 2020 12: 26 New
          0
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: FenH
          You need to destroy the FS, there are no options here.

          You can offer another option winked - disassemble carefully by a brigade of Uzbeks, in accordance with the construction estimate. But, for these lads, this proposal will work only after
          Quote: fn34440
          destroy all fortifications from Shumov to Ukrainian Chop

          So I don't mind, you can even without the Uzbeks, just by the sun hi I don't understand the continuation from Faina
          The kipesh with Navalny will immediately subside, the Skripals will return to Russia healthy, missing, and the sanctions will be lifted. How does she imagine it
  9. Nestor
    Nestor 5 September 2020 12: 12 New
    -19 qualifying.
    Windbag! And if no one is scared and nothing happens? Will you have enough forces and means for a full-scale war?
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 12: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: Nestor
      Windbag! And if no one is scared and nothing happens? Will you have enough forces and means for a full-scale war?

      Do not worry, we will throw ourselves off with all the people of Russia, we don’t mind money for the sacred cause. And we will plant weapons and, if necessary, we will throw "gifts" for you across the border. Let us remind you 2014, if your memory is bad
      1. Nestor
        Nestor 5 September 2020 12: 28 New
        -18 qualifying.
        I love your hurray-patriotism, you will objectively assess the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the 14th and now, and then "throw off all the people", maybe you will have to throw off more
        1. Adam Khomich
          Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 12: 30 New
          +6
          Quote: Nestor
          objectively assess the state of the APU in the 14th and now

          Have they really begun to loot less and consume kosorlovka mixed with drugs :-)
          1. Nestor
            Nestor 5 September 2020 12: 35 New
            -12 qualifying.
            No, this NM began to "decompose" more against the background of hopelessness laughing
            1. Adam Khomich
              Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 13: 02 New
              +3
              Quote: Nestor
              it is NM more "to decompose" start

              According to the chief military prosecutor of Ukraine Anatoly Matios, the non-combat losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other paramilitary formations since 2014, when the military operation in Donbass began, to date (October 28, 2017) have exceeded 10 thousand people. Today, you can add at least five thousand more. Or is the prosecutor lying?
              1. Nestor
                Nestor 5 September 2020 13: 20 New
                -6
                You are behind the times, Matios is no longer a prosecutor or even a civil servant
                There are currently no open statistics on "non-combat"
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 5 September 2020 14: 28 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Nestor
                  There are currently no open statistics on "non-combat"


                  Who said ? You don't have it, but we have yes

                  "Sochi", (The list of service services, which self-willfully deprived of parts of the service and are transferred to the office of the Ukrainian law enforcement service of the Ukrainian Forces )

                  Link to cloud mail.ru : https://cloud.mail.ru/public/uFV2/JZLw8F9bk
                  1. Nestor
                    Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 44 New
                    -3
                    I'll look for fun!
                    Counter question: - Do you have all the rules? laughing
                    Only without "monolithic rows" laughing
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 5 September 2020 14: 49 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Nestor
                      Question: - Do you have all the rules?
                      Only without "monolithic rows"

                      Even if there are some shoals that can affect our combat effectiveness, then you don't really expect that I'll just point them to you belay ?

                      So that : "We are a dense, monolithic formation ..."
                      1. Nestor
                        Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 57 New
                        0
                        I have a wife from Western Donbass and I know the local "contingent" very well, so I don't need to reveal the "military secret" laughing
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 5 September 2020 15: 04 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Nestor
                        I have a wife from Western Donbass and I know the local "contingent" very well, so I don't need to reveal the "military secret"

                        Of course, "a wife from Western Donbass" is a factor that provides analytical, social and psychological "cuts" according to the NM DNR ...

                        "A weighty argument" in understanding yes
                      3. Nestor
                        Nestor 5 September 2020 15: 30 New
                        0
                        Let's put it this way: - I was there for some time and the "miner's", both youth and older, I know the environment firsthand laughing
                        Having friendships both among the establishment and in the work environment is not difficult to find out who is breathing what (especially over a glass of tea)
    2. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 12: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: Nestor
      I love your hurray-patriotism,you will objectively assess the state of the APU in the 14th and now, and then "throw off all the people", maybe you will have to throw off more

      What type of terminators is the second part? Russia and the LDNR like in 2014 stopped in development and we have nothing to surprise you with.
      1. Nestor
        Nestor 5 September 2020 12: 37 New
        -13 qualifying.
        A similar wish, don't bother, don't.
        1. FenH
          FenH 5 September 2020 12: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: Nestor
          A similar wish, do not meddle, do not

          So it is you who are climbing, but you are not welcome, which they warn you about
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 10 New
          +5
          Quote: Nestor
          A similar wish, don't bother, don't.

          For the fact that the Svido Ukrainians fought, they ran into it ... Or do you think you omerika dopomozhe? more help .... crying Then he will catch up and do it again. laughing
          1. Nestor
            Nestor 5 September 2020 13: 23 New
            -9
            No, we can handle it somehow smile
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 27 New
              +5
              Quote: Nestor
              we'll manage somehow

              From the same, do it well, do it well ... Gopnik!
              1. Nestor
                Nestor 5 September 2020 13: 29 New
                -8
                Is there a mirror nearby? laughing
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 27 New
              0
              Quote: Nestor
              we'll manage somehow

              From the same, do it, do it well ... I am sure you know what you need to do ... Remove everything and prepare to answer for muydan and death!
              1. Nestor
                Nestor 5 September 2020 13: 42 New
                -10 qualifying.
                Are you having an aggravation? Maniac aberrations?
                I wrote for a long time that I am not an adherent of the Maidans
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 44 New
                  +3
                  lol Then maybe you will not be called to account ... So they will warm up and release the permafrost! crying
                  1. Nestor
                    Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 02 New
                    -6
                    Oh, how everything is running, I saw such "vzgrevalshchikov" in the zone near Chernigov, the arbiters of human destinies laughing
        3. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 5 September 2020 13: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Nestor
          A similar wish, don't bother, don't.
          Yes, you won't end up with trouble! The next Minsk (Brussels, Beijing and ....) will cost a complete withdrawal from the occupied territories of Donetsk and Luhansk regions, thousands of dead people earning money in the ODRLO, "puppies" and a new surge of separatism in other regions, including the western outskirts.
          And by that time, I wish you to sit not on the sofa, but in a lousy trench, on the front line - you will see clearly sooner if you survive.
          1. Nestor
            Nestor 5 September 2020 13: 32 New
            -7
            You should write fiction, the plan for the Russian Spring had to be implemented in 14th, now it's too late
            Don't poke, you will break your finger
            The "suit" does not allow me to enter the trench, another vus
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 5 September 2020 14: 00 New
              +2
              Quote: Nestor
              it is late now


              That the APU is ready to fight in the right war?
              1. Nestor
                Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 10 New
                -7
                I think about 80 percent, the logistics are weak and the saturation of new or restored equipment
                1. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... 5 September 2020 15: 06 New
                  +1
                  Well, that is, no.
    3. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 5 September 2020 13: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Nestor
      assess the state of the APU


      Unfighting aviation. Air defense incapacitated. Missiles are rarely fired. Most of the missiles are rotten ... The army is able to stand in positions and decompose. Mustache. ales
      1. Nestor
        Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 05 New
        -9
        Did Solovyov "sang" this to you?
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 5 September 2020 15: 07 New
          +3
          Not that I just closely follow the messages of your own press. And adding two and two is no problem, from the word in general.
          Attention to air defense and air force issues is minimal, because you will be able to fight the People's Militia of Donbass anyway, and with the intervention of Russia, this will not help from a word at all. In your operational direction, Donbass is propped up, if I remember correctly 4 IAPA, ShAP and Marine ShAP. Moreover, full-fledged ...
          1. Nestor
            Nestor 5 September 2020 15: 43 New
            -2
            Do you think there will be direct intervention by the Russian Federation? Hardly! And the rest is enough for now
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 5 September 2020 17: 05 New
              0
              If the APU begins to succeed in their version of the Storm, then Russia's intervention is guaranteed. In what form - well, this is not a question of my salary. Last time, a total of 3-4 BTGs and several RTGs were enough to defeat the APU.
              1. Nestor
                Nestor 5 September 2020 18: 01 New
                0
                Once again I say, do not compare the APU arr. 14 and 20.
                Although, be yours, consider that nothing has changed lol
                1. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... 5 September 2020 20: 00 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Nestor
                  do not compare the APU arr. 14goda and 20th.


                  Well, last time 4 BTGy was enough. This time, we will obviously not play giveaways. And yes, has something changed in the air defense? Or did you buy fighters? Your generals are not like that ............. wasting money on flimsy air force or senseless air defense. Changed something in the uh, APU or not. Matters even before the start of the airstrikes.
    4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 September 2020 23: 42 New
      -1
      Quote: Nestor
      objectively assess the state of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the 14th and now, and then "throw off all the people", maybe you will have to throw off more

      Interesting. In your comments, we can clearly distinguish the Israeli "lapdog style". When such a little fluffy dog ​​thinks in his little head a similar thought: "I will bark louder, everyone will think that I am a dangerous animal and will not climb."
      Keep it up, I tell you. Obviously, hearing such a formidable barking, we immediately lose our speechlessness, and that is why, probably, in response we only mumble inarticulately: "Mumu!" This means that the little dog can be calm. Probably.
      1. Nestor
        Nestor 6 September 2020 08: 58 New
        -1
        By analogy: - revise the Soviet film "Gulliver" for interest, here in the role of Lilliputians singing praises to themselves, I associate you
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 September 2020 17: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Nestor
          in the role of midgets singing praises to themselves, I associate you with

          Well, as it were, I wrote that the lapdog considers himself to be a terrible beast in relation to opponents. It all fits together. Are you not a Jew?
          1. Nestor
            Nestor 6 September 2020 20: 48 New
            0
            No, I have nothing to do with the chosen nation.
            Believe me, I will deeply share your opinion.
            Make fun of your imaginary greatness
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 September 2020 21: 22 New
              0
              Quote: Nestor
              Believe

              Are you delusional? How can you believe someone who has already written so much nonsense on one topic, how many others and will not sprinkle in a year?
  • Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 12: 27 New
    0
    Quote: Nestor
    if nobody gets scared and nothing happens

    Only round (stupid people) and corpses in the morgue are afraid of nothing :-)
    1. Nestor
      Nestor 5 September 2020 12: 32 New
      -11 qualifying.
      I agree with you!
      If NM strikes first in the current truce, this will mean the beginning of the "hot phase" and how it will all end, God only knows
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: Nestor
        this will mean the beginning of the "hot phase" and how it will all end, God only knows

        We know how it will end ... Even you know. The end of Ukraine's statehood is soapy.
        1. Nestor
          Nestor 5 September 2020 13: 27 New
          -9
          Yes, yes dumkoy fool bagatie (tr.rusk)
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 31 New
            +3
            That's great that we understood. And then, sho svido fools, because the whole world knows ..
            1. Nestor
              Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 17 New
              -5
              Huh, so I'm talking about you
      2. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 5 September 2020 13: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: Nestor
        and how it will all end, God only knows


        As usual, cho. After the kick, the APU will retire to where it is supposed to stand under the contract.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 5 September 2020 12: 15 New
    0
    We are waiting for Monday ...
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 5 September 2020 12: 15 New
    +4
    The main thing is that it was not a one-time action, but after the restoration of these structures, they were methodically destroyed over and over again
  • Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 12: 20 New
    0
    There it is enough to run one Serpent Gorynych and the plain is provided. There is nothing to set up a fortified area from the gray zone.
    Let them jump to the muydan in Kuiv like toadstry.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 September 2020 12: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: adam khomich
      There it is enough to run one Serpent Gorynych and the plain is provided.

      "Snake" will not be allowed at a distance of its use.
      And in general, its use for an indirect purpose was, if I am not mistaken during the assault on the Donetsk airport, at the moment when we were already confidently controlling the close approaches to it ...
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 12: 56 New
        -2
        Quote: Insurgent
        "Snake" will not be allowed at a distance of its use.

        With the BMP-3, you can make passes through a minefield several tens of meters wide at any distance. And from the ACS 2S1 "Carnation" generally flies 15 km. They probably lie :-)
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 September 2020 13: 02 New
          +2
          Firstly, we didn’t have a BMP-3 (and is the BMP capable of such request ), and secondly, I do not know of ammunition for a 122 mm gun, intended for demining (tricks of passages in minefields).
          1. Adam Khomich
            Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 13: 12 New
            -5
            Quote: Insurgent
            At first

            I indicated the BMP-3 base on purpose, because. during development, the labeling was not known. In the second case, we are talking about the base (!) Of the self-propelled guns, and not about the weapon. And thirdly: in Syria, the Serpent Gorynych was also actively used to destroy terrorist fortifications.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 5 September 2020 13: 17 New
              +5
              Quote: adam khomich
              And thirdly: in Syria, the Serpent Gorynych was also actively used to destroy terrorist fortifications.

              In the second I repeat once again that the "Snake" can be used only by approaching "for a pistol shot", close to 500 meters (TTX UR-77).
              You are not describing our terms. We are not in Syria, and it is not the barmaley against us, but the army ...
              1. Adam Khomich
                Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 13: 19 New
                -3
                Quote: Insurgent
                We are not in Syria, and it is not the barmaley against us, but the army ...

                For this purpose, there is a portable version for the DG!
              2. Nestor
                Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 29 New
                -2
                Hello "foe" laughing
                How do you like the wishes of the "local elder brothers", and are they expecting that we will grab each other's throats?
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 5 September 2020 14: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: Nestor
                  How do you like the wishes of the "local elder brothers", and are they expecting that we will grab each other's throats?

                  belay Isn't it your "visually viisko" in the 14th to bite its fangs into the Donbass?
                  1. Nestor
                    Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 37 New
                    -3
                    I'm talking about this moment in time, not about 14m
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 5 September 2020 14: 44 New
                      0
                      Quote: Nestor
                      I'm talking about this moment in time, not about 14m

                      In how what ... So, there under the Noises are your villagers-hlibopashtsi?

                      "To each other's throats"? And the Bandera occupier is not my friend No. .
                      1. Nestor
                        Nestor 5 September 2020 14: 51 New
                        0
                        Just like you have advanced "miners"
                        Firstly, it’s not for me with Bandera, secondly, I don’t make friends, and thirdly, the point of view of the opposite side is interesting
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 5 September 2020 14: 58 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Nestor
                        Just like you have advanced "miners"

                        Upset? laughing At the moment, just miners, collective farmers, welders, drivers, loaders, cops and the unemployed yes
                        Except only for the advisers, who do not understand what kind of wind has blown wink , and who are directly involved in serving on the front line, do not participate.
                        An advisor is an advisor yes

                        "Advanced" what ... When they are, you will feel yes
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 6 September 2020 03: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Insurgent
      And in general, its use for an indirect purpose was, if I am not mistaken during the storming of the Donetsk airport,
      Later, the Syrians in the same way kicked out the barmaley in the city quarters of Aleppo. And the video is available.
      So if there is a dense building and relatively closed positions, then I don't want to go! fellow yes
  • Outsider
    Outsider 5 September 2020 12: 28 New
    -6
    - Donetsk warned Kiev about striking the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with tactical nuclear weapons ... laughing lol
  • askort154
    askort154 5 September 2020 12: 35 New
    +5
    "Ensure the absence of personnel": Donetsk warned Kiev about striking at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    We have been waiting for this for a long time. All the "Minsk negotiations" initially showed their own, purely political verbiage. I believe, through the mouth of Pushilin, the Kremlin is making a message not only to Ukraine, but also to its "pimps". The accumulation of NATO troops in Poland and the Baltics, and the large-scale military exercises of the "Southern District" planned by Russia in September, make it clear to NATO that there will be no "new Minsk agreements".
    And your "psycho-sick" B-52 flights over Ukraine reinforce our conclusion that it is time to dot the "I" in DONBAS.
    If you do not want to fulfill the "Minsk agreements", Russia has a "B" plan.
    It's time to implement it. I think this autumn will be "special" not only with the elections in the United States, but also in Russia's decisive actions to restore its influence in the zone of its interests.
    There is nowhere to retreat - RUSSIA is behind. yes
  • fn34440
    fn34440 5 September 2020 12: 40 New
    +5
    “If bullies come to see you, the best way to discourage them is to show how big a stick you have in your hand” is an old Chinese saying.
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 5 September 2020 12: 40 New
    -3
    took an example from Iran, they also smacked at US bases warning. But Iran is its own boss and the DPR is not very ...
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 September 2020 13: 07 New
    +2
    The Armed Forces of the Donetsk People's Republic received an order to destroy the engineering structures of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the demarcation line in the area of ​​the Shumy settlement near Horlivka.
    I'm in favor, but ..... Seisas is a very advanced art detection system. OP. Wouldn't fall under the answer, but she will. And it would be nice to prepare air defense systems and prepare for counter-boreal combat .... reconnaissance UAVs should be allowed for several days, albeit with losses.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 5 September 2020 17: 24 New
      0
      With wolves to live like a wolf howl. I think they have foreseen such a trick from Ukraine. Yes, and opening fire on arteleria, there may be victims and this is a specific joint for which he will formally untie his hands (like Israel, for example). ...
    2. Avior
      Avior 5 September 2020 18: 02 New
      +2
      UAVs banned under the terms of the truce
  • Aeshken
    Aeshken 5 September 2020 13: 09 New
    +1
    They (the Ukrainian Armed Forces and others) see only weakness in such humane formulations! Although it may not be otherwise, the older brother does not allow you to act tough !?
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 5 September 2020 14: 17 New
    +1
    An interesting approach to business, of course, we'll see. Only they gave a lot of time, about four hours it would have been enough to carry off our legs, leaving everything in positions.
    1. Feliks m
      Feliks m 5 September 2020 14: 39 New
      0
      All the idle talk. The height or convenient location of the APU took. it is necessary to scare them so that they do not climb further.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 September 2020 15: 13 New
    -2
    Oh, a new war will begin there on Monday. Because Ukraine urgently needs blood in order to distract citizens from the current winter.
    1. Nestor
      Nestor 5 September 2020 18: 08 New
      +1
      And what about the end of the world in winter? !!
      1. Zomanus
        Zomanus 6 September 2020 14: 30 New
        0
        For citizens of Ukraine, yes.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 5 September 2020 17: 20 New
    0
    Oh nafig !!!! This is great! And what hasn't been done that way before?
  • BAI
    BAI 5 September 2020 18: 12 New
    +1
    Well done (bye). The main thing is to keep your promise.
  • Alt 22
    Alt 22 5 September 2020 19: 28 New
    0
    This is called - "and who did not hide - I'm not to blame")
  • mark_rod
    mark_rod 5 September 2020 21: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Glenni
    So what's stopping you? Take your weapon and go punish! What problems?

    Don't be smart!
  • Pavel Shadoyan
    Pavel Shadoyan 5 September 2020 22: 16 New
    0
    They want to stroke. We must get out of the iron zone. All the same. And do not come to this zone.
  • Bormental
    Bormental 5 September 2020 22: 48 New
    0
    I do not pretend to be the authorship of this idea, but, nevertheless, for three years I "gouge", wherever possible, just such a way of knocking out the Banderlog from the occupied territories. Methodically, on schedule ... True, I meant that the Russian army would do this remotely. If the army of Donbass is engaged, great, it means that you have saved up some silushki ... I wonder what they will handle, maybe "Solntsepek" - it would be great ...
  • venaly
    venaly 6 September 2020 00: 35 New
    0
    This is the only way with the chubaty ones. That they, that the entire "collective" West understands only the language of force.
  • German Titov
    German Titov 6 September 2020 09: 42 New
    0
    Boom watch and listen!
  • German Titov
    German Titov 6 September 2020 12: 37 New
    0
    Khan "truce! They announced that" they will shell Donetsk and Gorlovka. "Destroying" Mirnyak ". Sala stolen! Maimuny! Donbass is too tough for you. ".
  • Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 6 September 2020 15: 13 New
    0
    I understand, I share, I am also outraged ... but in vain.
    Minami bombard the attack directories and go ...
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 6 September 2020 17: 24 New
    0
    "In this regard, Donetsk decided to independently destroy the fortifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
    I think this is the correct line of leadership.
  • itis
    itis 6 September 2020 19: 07 New
    -1
    nothing will happen on monday. this is a "ping". the OSCE control group will be from Badun, the blow will be canceled. There is an excuse. something else will be discussed on Wednesday ..
    it's a pity.
  • Roman 4912
    Roman 4912 6 September 2020 22: 55 New
    0
    "Place, I have the honor to attack you! Defend yourself!" Is it so? Is there really a war there?
    I have never spoken about this ridiculous confrontation, but somehow it burst.