The United States discovered the preparation of the DPRK for testing sea-based ICBMs

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The United States discovered the preparation of the DPRK for testing sea-based ICBMs

North Korea is likely to be preparing to test a sea-based medium-range intercontinental ballistic missile. This was stated by experts at the Washington Center for Strategic and International Studies.

American experts, having studied satellite images of the Shinpo shipyard on the east coast of the DPRK, came to the conclusion that the North Korean military is preparing for test launches of ICBMs from a submarine. As stated, the images revealed a vessel that can be used for testing submarine ballistic missiles (SLBMs). Most likely, experts say, the DPRK can prepare for tests of the Pukkynson-3 SLBM (Polar Star-3), but these conclusions have not yet been substantiated.



The pictures are suggestive, but do not give final conclusions about the preparations for the upcoming tests of the Pukkynson-3 SLBM

- said in a statement.

The North Korean submarine ballistic missile of the Pukkykson-3 type was first tested in early October 2019. According to the South Korean military, the launched rocket flew 450 km and reached an altitude of 910 km. The declared range of "Polar Star - 3" is 2000 km.

North Korea currently has a sea-based Pukkykson-1 ICBM with a range of 1250-1300 km. For the first time, the missile was successfully tested from a submarine in August 2016. For testing missiles, a diesel-electric submarine built in the DPRK, designated in the West as Sinpo-B, is used. The submarine has a total displacement of about 2000 tons and is equipped with one silo for ballistic missiles.

The standard carrier of the Pukkykson-3 missiles is likely to be a larger Sinpo-C-type diesel-electric missile submarine under construction in the DPRK at the Sinpo plant with a total displacement of about 3000 tons and three missile silos.
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  1. +5
    5 September 2020 09: 07
    Most likely, experts say ...

    however, these conclusions have not yet been supported by anything ...

    A curtain.
    The pictures are suggestive.

    Well, a joke, and only ...
    1. +1
      5 September 2020 09: 17
      Quote: Doccor18
      Well, a joke, and only ...

      ========
      As always: Highly likely.......
      1. +2
        5 September 2020 14: 26
        Quote: venik
        Quote: Doccor18
        Well, a joke, and only ...

        ========
        As always: Highly likely.......

        The main thing is that the Yankees' point does not relax. Let them, sitting on the toilet, turn their heads 360 degrees and think - where they can fly from. These "hegemons" have already got the whole world.
        1. 0
          5 September 2020 20: 08
          Quote: Piramidon
          The main thing is that the Yankees' point does not relax.

          ========
          good But we can well "provide" THIS !!! laughing
          -----
          Quote: Piramidon
          Let them, sitting on the toilet, turn their heads 360 degrees and think - where they can fly from.

          ========
          And not only "turn your head"! Also, to score .... (Sorry! I forgot how it is in Latin, well, in general - "sciatic muscle") more often in this "pose of an eagle" - it cramped !!!
          And that's for sure -
          Quote: Piramidon
          Already got these "hegemons"
          !! drinks
    2. +2
      5 September 2020 09: 31
      Quote: Doccor18
      Well anecdote, and nothing more.

      The striped-eared problem with agents ... in the DPRK. So they are guessing on the coffee grounds. And such a boat with thermonuclear warheads is a serious threat to the United States itself. Sailing to California ... and nothing to cover. They then build anti-submarine barriers against the Russians in the Atlantic ... although ours are also present in Kamchatka ...
      1. -1
        5 September 2020 09: 55
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        The striped-eared problem with agents ... in the DPRK. So they are guessing on the coffee grounds. And such a boat with thermonuclear warheads is a serious threat to the United States itself. Sailing to California ... and nothing to cover. They then build anti-submarine barriers against the Russians in the Atlantic ... although ours are also present in Kamchatka ...

        Zhen is good at scaring the Amers and our liberds ..)))))) They are already scared of the Russian threat, and then Eun is threatening laughing US AUGs will no longer be customized .. It's useless!

        So much for starving North Korea !!!!
        1. 0
          6 September 2020 15: 25
          Quote: Husit
          So much for starving North Korea !!!!

          Apparently in the DPRK, not everyone is starving, as it once was in the late USSR ...
      2. +1
        5 September 2020 10: 32
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        And such a boat with thermonuclear warheads is a serious threat to the United States itself.

        What is the serious threat?)
        For the United States, this diving boat is visible at a glance, whether it dives or floats. If it does not reach the launch radius in the USA, it will be destroyed 10 times. Rather, it is a prototype for testing underwater missile launch technologies. And these technologies will be used when the DPRK has nuclear submarines, it is quite possible. And as a battleship, today's diesel-electric boat can theoretically be used against Japan and Korea. It is safe for the United States.
        1. -1
          5 September 2020 10: 43
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          What is the serious threat?)
          For the United States, this diving boat is visible at a glance, whether it dives or floats. It will not reach the launch radius in the USA, it will be destroyed 10 times

          Pray for the almighty striped ears? They called the diving boat yonder. What if the power reserve is enough for her to get close to the launch distance? Do you know the performance characteristics of these boats?
          Or so - American means - excellent? They have the best medicine in the world, the most democratic society, the most advanced freedom ...?
          1. 0
            5 September 2020 11: 20
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            What if the power reserve is enough for her to get close to the launch distance? Do you know the performance characteristics of these boats?

            I taught physics, unlike you. Name at least one DE boat which will have enough underwater speed without surfacing to recharge the battery at such a distance.
            You better not brag about your illiteracy.
            Just dishonor yourself.
            You got strength here, marshal (apparently for money and a stupid hat in the pack), but your brains and knowledge have not grown. hi
            And about American, this is the best I have not written anywhere.
            It is for this that your lies are my little minus to you.
            1. -2
              5 September 2020 11: 32
              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              And about American, this is the best I have not written anywhere.

              This diving boat will be destroyed ten times ... isn't that it? Americans call our diesels "black holes" obviously in vain? There is also no data about the cruising range of such boats. But, offhand, diesel went to the ocean and came back. There are probably 5-6 thousand kilometers. And Koreans will easily go on a one-way trip to punish the United States. Therefore, they will swim. Finding such a shell in the ocean will require a lot of effort and resources. If not caught in the straits, and she will go into the ocean ...
              And about personal hostility and impudence in handling - God is your judge ... Physics, as it is not surprising to you, I know for sure better than you. As well as many other things.
              1. -1
                5 September 2020 11: 46
                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                This diving boat will be destroyed ten times ... isn't that it?

                Well it really is. )
                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                Americans call our diesels "black holes" obviously in vain?

                Do not compare the DPRK boat with ours, and do not take everything that is said on RENT too close to your heart.)
                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                ? There is also no data about the cruising range of such boats. But, offhand, diesel went to the ocean and came back. There are probably 5-6 thousand kilometers.

                The cruising range and the time spent in the submerged position I meant. On the surface, it is just a boat visible in full view for radars and satellites. And even "one way" will not reach the end.
                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                Finding such a shell in the ocean will require a lot of effort and resources.

                Yes, there are no problems with this. As you only dilettante can reason.
                1. -4
                  5 September 2020 13: 18
                  Quote: Alexey Sommer
                  The cruising range and the time spent in the submerged position I meant. On the surface, it is just a boat visible in full view for radars and satellites. And even "one way" will not reach the end.

                  For covert movement under water and not consume the charge diesel boats have been using "snorkel" since WWII. If they are going to really attack, they will come up with something else. They are inventive.
                  1. -2
                    5 September 2020 14: 37
                    Quote: Mountain Shooter
                    For covert movement under water and not consume the charge diesel boats have been using "snorkel" since WWII.


                    I'm just amazed at your self-confidence and ignorance.
                    No shame, no knowledge. The most real ignorant.
                    Firstly, not a snorkel, but a snorkel. Secondly, when the snorkel is lifted above the water, it glows on the radar, like a finger on the forehead on the ocean surface.
                    So you have a complete disaster with erudition, and you show this in every message. The only thing with which everything is fine with you is apparently with the finger that you minus, those who disagree with you.
                    1. -4
                      5 September 2020 14: 48
                      You are amazingly ignorant.
                      ... Snorkel
                      Snorkel (German Schnorchel - breathing tube), snorkel, a device for operating the engine under water (RDP), a device for compressors (UDC) - a device on a submarine for intake of air necessary for the operation of an internal combustion engine under water ...

                      At the same time, self-confident ... your poor subordinates, who, as you said, you have ...
                      1. -3
                        5 September 2020 14: 50
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C
                        What about radars?)
                      2. 0
                        5 September 2020 16: 40
                        Let's start with the fact that there is a US military base in Guam, which is about 3000 km from the DPRK. This is the most important basis for controlling the APR. I call the algorithm. The diesel-electric submarine goes out to sea hundreds of kilometers from the coast, makes a "dive", sneaks up to the line of strike weapons and makes a volley. That the Snorkel, that the Snorkhel, the names are correct, and even more correct the Snorkel (Schnorchel), if you do not chew on the Latin letters wassat ... Our boats, and even nuclear submarines sailing under a large ship, have worked out the mechanism for camouflaging a submarine with a civilian surface vessel. Therefore, it is not a problem to disguise the SnorKhel with a junk, longboat, etc. I’ll even tell you a secret, you can go from one junky, going on a snorkel, to another, or even the third, to go on a silent electric ship. Like a relay baton. The snorkel air intake itself can be made of radio-transparent material, with special coating, special geometry, etc. Is the stealth one-sided? In short, unlike you, American strategists are worried. The North Koreans have an opportunity to get to the launch line across the United States and even more so, on bases. 2000 km is a huge radius and it is unrealistic to reliably block this with ASW forces, even for the United States. They did not bring the leaky SOSUS to mind, but it was business to close the neck between Greenland, Iceland, the Faroe Islands and Great Britain (Scotland).
                      3. -1
                        5 September 2020 17: 17
                        There is justification in your words. Thank.
                      4. -3
                        5 September 2020 16: 44
                        Is it clear with the snorkel?
                        And now with the radar. If the snorkel is ordinary, made of steel, then a pipe sticking out of the sea can be seen, but much less than the boat itself. EPR is small there. And if you make this part of ... composite? Then, against the background of the waves, it will become hardly noticeable. I will repeat myself. A colossal water area, an unknown route ... When there is a death of ships or aircraft, the search for life rafts and wreckage is carried out for weeks, often without any result. Although the search area is known and limited.
                      5. -3
                        5 September 2020 17: 16
                        Quote: Mountain Shooter
                        Is it clear with the snorkel?

                        One could not fight back?) Did you bring dad?)
            2. 0
              6 September 2020 15: 28
              Quote: Alexey Sommer
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              What if the power reserve is enough for her to get close to the launch distance? Do you know the performance characteristics of these boats?

              I taught physics, unlike you. Name at least one DE boat which will have enough underwater speed without surfacing to recharge the battery at such a distance.
              You better not brag about your illiteracy.
              Just dishonor yourself.
              You got strength here, marshal (apparently for money and a stupid hat in the pack), but your brains and knowledge have not grown.

              K-n observe the chain of command, the "marshal" has more seniority than you ...
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        2. 0
          6 September 2020 01: 32
          North Koreans suddenly "learned" to build and create something that the USSR / USA had spent decades to create.
          So if the Kims "suddenly" have a normal submarine - a carrier of strategic weapons, I will not be very surprised. They are capable guys, but the kakly will sell them something, there would be something to sell.
    3. 0
      5 September 2020 10: 10
      Quote: Doccor18
      Well, a joke, and only ...

      Well, the opinion of American (British) experts has long been nothing but laughter.
  2. -8
    5 September 2020 09: 09
    How high did the rocket reach ?!
    910 ?!
    1. -7
      5 September 2020 09: 15
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      How high did the rocket reach ?!
      910 ?!

      There is a lot of stuff ... they write stuff ... Don't be surprised ... hi
    2. +7
      5 September 2020 09: 27
      The altitude of an ICBM flight at its apogee can reach 1,5 km. Basically, the flight altitude depends on the range of the rocket. hi Google will help you if you don't believe in words.
      1. +1
        5 September 2020 10: 01
        Quote: major071
        The altitude of an ICBM flight at its apogee can reach 1,5 km. Basically, the flight altitude depends on the range of the rocket. hi Google will help you if you don't believe in words.

        Major in Google and wiki write that the DPRK is the rest of the country and they eat weed from hunger .. laughing
        1. -3
          5 September 2020 11: 23
          Quote: Husit
          Google and Vika write that the DPRK is the rest of the country and they eat weed out of hunger ..

          Yes, they lie, of course.
          The DPRK is a developed country, people live there happily and prosperously.
          See for yourself.
          At the moment, the video has 14 522 657 (fourteen million five hundred twenty two thousand six hundred fifty seven) views:
          1. -2
            5 September 2020 13: 48
            Quote: A. Privalov
            At the moment, the video has 14 522 657

            laughing laughing laughing Normal number of organisms with clip thinking.
            There are indeed many of you, but this, again, is a normal situation.
            And yes, it would be boring without you, so thanks for being there. hi wassat
            1. 0
              6 September 2020 15: 43
              Quote: Paranoid50
              And yes, it would be boring without you,

              The working people of SAR and Palestine do not share your opinion ...
              thank you for being there

              Thank you must be said to the working people of the USSR ... but I think the working people of the SAR, Iran and Palestine will correct this misunderstanding ...
          2. +1
            5 September 2020 22: 02
            North Korea is a developed country
            Of course, the DPRK is not Israel, but many industries are surprisingly well developed (chemical, ferrous metallurgy, etc.)
        2. mvg
          +3
          5 September 2020 12: 29
          Major in Google and wiki write that the DPRK is the rest of the country and is eating weed from hunger

          Escho one iti .. individual on the site. How were you given birth? They certainly did not stand in line for brains. She, in turn, was too big for you. This post is not a single comment. I summed it up.
  3. +3
    5 September 2020 09: 14
    Work, brothers Koreans! good
    1. +1
      5 September 2020 09: 57
      Quote: El Dorado
      Work, brothers Koreans! good

      The main thing is not to overwork .. And purely defense!
  4. +1
    5 September 2020 09: 20
    Highley varnishes, highley varnishes, highley varnishes ... Pancake scouting.
    ...
    Or, perhaps, translation inaccuracies.
  5. -1
    5 September 2020 09: 24
    As stated in the UN, this season the DPRK received the worst harvest in the last ten years. Thus, the grain deficit amounted to 1,36 million tons, which is why the country's authorities decided to reduce the daily human diet from 380 grams to 310 grams. At the same time, it is noted that the diet can be reduced even more in the period from July to September.

    It's just right to test ICBMs ...
    "You are going the right way, comrades!" (C)
    1. +3
      5 September 2020 09: 58
      Quote: A. Privalov
      It's just right to test ICBMs ...
      "You are going the right way, comrades!" (C)

      And Iran is on the right path, Mr. Privalov! Why can't they do it like in the DPRK?
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 11: 01
        Quote: Husit
        And Iran is on the right path, Mr. Privalov! Why can't they do it like in the DPRK?

        Why not? Can.

        According to the Statistical Center of Iran, in July 2019, the average inflation over the past 12 months reached 40,4%. This is the highest level in 23 years. It is well above the 36,2% peak recorded in October 2013 before the nuclear deal.

        In the context of individual essential goods, the situation looks much worse than the average inflation rate. Back in February, the deputy director of the Iranian Statistics Center, Javad Huseynzadeh, cited the following data: a kilogram of mutton more than doubled in a year (from 490 thousand to 995 thousand riyals) with an average rise in food prices by 57,5%, and household appliances increased in price on average by 82%. In April, food and drinks became more expensive by 84,4% compared to April 2018, clothing and footwear increased in price by 57,8%, furniture and household items - by 80,1%, transport services - by 52,5% , gasoline has doubled in price, etc.

        This is all data from 2018 - 2019, but I don't think there has been any noticeable improvement in 2020.

        By the way, the official rate of the Iranian real to the US dollar is 42 reais per green, and on the black market now speculators give 000 Iranian reais for 1 US dollar, which is almost 139% more than in the New Year. This, by the way, is a landmark indicator.

        So, as you can see, Iran has not yet reached the Korean handle, but it is also confidently walking the right path. hi
        1. +1
          5 September 2020 11: 26
          - went for bread
          1. +1
            5 September 2020 11: 31
            Quote: Charik
            - went for bread

            This is not Iran, but Zimbabwe, but also, nothing fun.
            1. 0
              5 September 2020 11: 32
              Afghanistan like, but no-Zimbabwe-read under the picture
        2. +2
          5 September 2020 14: 42
          Mr. Privalov, it seems Iran did not withdraw from the nuclear deal, which means that there are no complaints about Tehran.
          For $ 1 they give 139000 reais? Evidence that the state has a hard currency. And who broke the deal: the ayatola, the Iranian president, or the street money changer? I think there is nothing to blame Iran for this
          1. +1
            6 September 2020 07: 46
            Quote: Astra wild
            Mr. Privalov, it seems Iran did not withdraw from the nuclear deal, which means that there are no complaints about Tehran.
            For $ 1 they give 139000 reais? Evidence that the state has a hard currency. And who broke the deal: the ayatola, the Iranian president, or the street money changer? I think there is nothing to blame Iran for this

            Once again I read all my comments in this thread, but did not find any accusations of Iran. request
            However, if you have touched upon American claims and the US withdrawal from the deal, please listen to a couple of words on this topic.
            The United States has long argued that Iran is not fulfilling its obligations, moreover, it violates the main condition of the treaty - the termination of uranium enrichment.
            So, after a visit by IAEA inspectors to one of the two Iranian nuclear facilities, access to which, after many years of bickering and procrastination, was opened by Tehran, it turned out that the reserves of enriched uranium in Iran already exceed 2105 kg, which is approximately ten times more than stipulated by the 2015 "nuclear agreement". Naturally, the revealed facts cast doubt on the peaceful nature of Iran's nuclear program.
            US suspicions were confirmed. Who needs a contract that one of the parties stubbornly violates?
            I will not be surprised if the results of the IAEA reports open the eyes of the countries that have spoken in favor of lifting the embargo on Iran, with all that it implies. hi
  6. 0
    5 September 2020 09: 31
    So what? Someone should be straining about this?
    Okay, let them strain, maybe it will carry you faster.
    1. -1
      5 September 2020 09: 47
      It's enough that the states have tensed ... wink
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 10: 20
        They have this not a passing state, for a long time and it seems like a long time.
  7. +1
    5 September 2020 09: 35
    Are the DPRK's boats diesel?
    1. +2
      5 September 2020 09: 39
      Yes. There are no nuclear ones, but I think they are developing. VNEU, like ours, they do not have.
  8. +3
    5 September 2020 09: 55
    The United States discovered the preparation of the DPRK for testing sea-based ICBMs

    Somehow the American rhetoric was quickly blown away - "North Korea is enemy number 1", I no longer send 2 of my ASUs there, as it was under the "early" Trump, about 3 years ago.
    Now they have returned to the "old enemies" - Iran, Russia and absolutely "fresh" - China. To use against the DPRK - "power unprecedented in the world", Trump no longer threatens. And "Y-na" called him a great guy.
    I wonder what happened in reality?
    1. 0
      5 September 2020 10: 03

      askort154 (Alexander)
      Today, 09: 55
      +1
      The United States discovered the preparation of the DPRK for testing sea-based ICBMs

      Somehow the American rhetoric was quickly blown away - "North Korea is enemy number 1", I no longer send 2 of my ASUs there, as it was under the "early" Trump, about 3 years ago.
      Now they have returned to their "old enemies" - Iran, Russia and absolutely "fresh" China. Apply against the DPRK - "power unprecedented in the world", Trump is no longer threatening. And "Y-na" called him a great guy.
      Changing shoes in the air is Trump's best fun. wink
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 11: 35
        aszzz888 ..Changing shoes in the air is Trump's best fun.

        And this is understandable, the original comedian in life, came to politics in his declining years. Therefore, sincerely and naively, he is trying to influence world politics, exclusively through the economy, driving it into one gate of the United States.
        He is not a political and military strategist, he is a successful showman of the 21st century, raised on dad's capital. Son of a billionaire! hi
  9. 0
    5 September 2020 14: 29
    "North Korea, most likely, is preparing for testing medium-range ICBMs" 1) I like the wording "most likely" it can be interpreted in two ways and yes and no. Once I watched an old film with the participation of Gurchenn, it seems, "Carnival Night" (a film older than me) and there I remember these words: "Is there life on, is there life on Mars. Science does not know this"
    So it is with the tests: if the tests are conducted, American intelligence: "we warned. We knew, but some doubted." If not: "We said" probably "
    2) I have no idea what the DPRK has, but logic dictates: if such a system exists, then it needs to be tested. And here the North Koreans have the right to do as they LIKE. They are a sovereign state and the United States recognizes this, and if so, then the question is settled
  10. +2
    5 September 2020 14: 33
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    And such a boat with thermonuclear warheads is a serious threat to the United States itself. Sailing to California ... and nothing to cover.

    First look at the performance characteristics of this boat, and then dream that the North Koreans will reach California. Unless only on the surface ...
  11. 0
    5 September 2020 14: 40
    SLBM "Pukkynson-3"
    For big American farts.
    1. +1
      6 September 2020 17: 04
      Quote: Trapp1st
      SLBM "Pukkynson-3"
      For big American farts.

      At Eurovision, many of the Asia-Pacific and CIS countries would vote for this children's ensemble ....
      1. +1
        6 September 2020 17: 06
        many of the Asia-Pacific and CIS countries would vote for this children's ensemble
        I would have gone with pleasure myself and listened. What nice and lovely children, the eye rejoices.
  12. +4
    5 September 2020 15: 53
    Quote: El Dorado
    Yes. There are no nuclear ones, but I think they are developing.

    For a start, they would have created a reactor for a nuclear power plant, and then "aimed" at an atomic boat

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    What if the power reserve is enough for her to get close to the launch distance?

    Not enough. Only on the surface can it theoretically reach the launch line across America. True, for this you need to get there ...

    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    How high did the rocket reach ?!
    910 ?!

    Yes, North Korean missiles are always launched along a high-altitude trajectory. they do not have the ability to control the launch along a normal trajectory. Theoretically, such a launch suggests that the maximum range is equal to two times the lift height. That is, the range is about 1800-2000 km. But this is theoretical. How the warhead will behave during a "normal" launch is unknown
    1. 0
      6 September 2020 17: 23
      Quote: Old26
      Quote: El Dorado
      Yes. There are no nuclear ones, but I think they are developing.

      For a start, they would have created a reactor for a nuclear power plant, and then "aimed" at an atomic boat
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What if the power reserve is enough for her to get close to the launch distance?

      Not enough. Only on the surface can it theoretically reach the launch line across America. True, for this you need to get there ...

      On the other hand, KPA submarines can always swim to the shores of Japan and plunge into Japanese nuclear power plants located on the coast, if there are fewer Japanese people, most of the Asia-Pacific countries, remembering the past, will only be happy about this, and the American military with the contaminated radiation of the Japanese islands will quickly dump. ...
      Generally
      Old26 (Vladimir)
      one must be more trusting both in the strength of the Juche and in the capabilities of the KPA ...
  13. +2
    5 September 2020 22: 53
    Quote: 72jora72
    Of course, the DPRK is not Israel, but many industries are surprisingly well developed (chemical, ferrous metallurgy, etc.)

    Not many. Chemical - yes, ferrous metallurgy - yes, mining - too. But such a fundamental industry as the aviation industry, which shows the level of the state - this industry is close to zero.
  14. +1
    6 September 2020 14: 58
    Quote: Doccor18
    Well, a joke, and only ...

    What is the anecdote? What conclusions are drawn from existing data? Right. Any information about the tests will have uncertainty until the tests pass.
    "Shinpo-B" in the base, other escort ships in the same place? Based on this, a conclusion is made about possible tests. Or you think that everything is done differently. Looked at the photo and immediately everything became clear ???
  15. 0
    6 September 2020 18: 04
    Some of our people left for North Korea in the 90s. The first Korean cars strongly resembled the P-27. And our boats were with three mines. So Koreans are on the beaten track. They would have to raise the range to at least 4500 km.

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