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"Opportunity to contain Russia": the US commented on the B-52H flights over Ukraine

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The flights of a group of American strategic bombers B-52H in the airspace of Ukraine near Crimea have demonstrated the ability to contain Russia. This is stated in the statement of the US Air Force Command in Europe.


According to the statement, flights of American strategists over Ukraine near the Crimean peninsula were planned in advance as part of the temporary transfer of six B-52H strategic bombers to the UK. During the exercise, three B-52 Stratofortress from the 5th Bomber Wing from the Minot base, together with Ukrainian fighters, flew over the territory of Ukraine, as close as possible to the Russian borders.

The mission provided the partner with a valuable opportunity to practice in the air. In addition, the mission demonstrated how forward-deployed B-52 aircraft and crews contribute to collective security and provide the United States, NATO allies and partners with the ability to contain Russia.

- stated in the Air Force Command.

According to Western aviation resources, American B-52N bombers entered the airspace of Ukraine over the Volyn region from Poland, flying over the Rivne, Zhytomyr regions and Kiev. After that, flying over the Kherson and Melitopol regions north of the Crimea, the strategists circled for about an hour and a half in an ellipse northeast of Genichesk along the coast of the Sea of ​​Azov.

At the same time, four reconnaissance aircraft were in the air at once - the American RC-135W and P-8A Poseidon, and the British RC-135W and Sentinel R.1, tracking the actions of the Russian military.
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  1. mark1
    mark1 5 September 2020 08: 20 New
    11
    [quote] At the same time, four reconnaissance aircraft were in the air at once - the American RC-135W and P-8A Poseidon, and the British RC-135W and Sentinel R.1, tracking the actions of the Russian military. / Quote] It would not be bad if our systems REP broadcasted cartoons about the sailor Popeye to them on radar screens, But this is probably still in development
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 08: 23 New
      +2
      [quote = mark1] [quote] At the same time, there were four reconnaissance aircraft in the air at once - the American RC-135W and P-8A Poseidon, and the British RC-135W and Sentinel R.1, tracking the actions of the Russian military. / quote] Not bad it would be if our REP systems broadcast cartoons about the sailor Popeye to them on radar screens, But this is probably still in development [/ quote]
      Just shugan our them
      According to the center, on September 4, Russian airspace control over the neutral waters of the Black Sea detected three US Air Force B-52H strategic bombers approaching the Russian state border, TASS reports.

      “In order to prevent the US Air Force planes from violating Russian airspace, four Su-27 fighters and four Su-30 fighters were raised from the air defense forces of the Southern Military District into the air over the Black and Azov Seas,” the center said.

      Now we are waiting for screams, about the fact that ours again scare them "peaceful pilots"
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 09: 25 New
        +9
        Quote: FenH
        Now we are waiting for screams about the fact that ours are again scaring their "peaceful pilots"

        They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys. And soon there will be S-500. After they "jumped" on Belarus, the S-400 can stand there too. Together with the airbase. On which fighters ... Fly, "doves of peace" ... Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets ... wassat
        1. FenH
          FenH 5 September 2020 09: 30 New
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: FenH
          Now we are waiting for screams about the fact that ours are again scaring their "peaceful pilots"

          They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys. And soon there will be S-500. After they "jumped" on Belarus, the S-400 can stand there too. Together with the airbase. On which fighters ... Fly, "doves of peace" ... Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets ... wassat

          One minus, the location to change and equip, and put the inflators on the illuminated places hi
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 5 September 2020 09: 35 New
            +3
            Quote: FenH
            One minus, the location to change and equip, and put the inflators on the illuminated places

            So they are mobile, these divisions. I suppose they did not even work from their places of permanent deployment. We rolled out into the steppe for a hundred kilometers, and "shone" ... Or maybe they even raised the A-50. There he alone would have been enough. This whole circus. With horses.
          2. Temples
            Temples 5 September 2020 09: 37 New
            -3
            It is necessary to bring them down.
            Return Ukraine.
            They are all fucking there.
            How much will they play in the liberals?

            Russians are being killed.
            Burned.

            And they don't give a fuck.

            Now bombers are flying.

            Then they will bomb.

            They only understand the power.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 5 September 2020 17: 45 New
              +2
              Khramov, 9.37
              I know that they will throw dislikes on me, like you. But I'll tell you!

              In 2014, I and many people wrote about possible similar cases and situations. I am fully confident that Russia and the Supreme Commander will NOT surrender Ukraine and will NOT allow such an outrage: after all, there are only 500 kilometers from the Ukrainian border to Moscow! Handed over. Allowed. What remains now? Just watch and deliver notes of protest!

              And what kind of "containment" are the Americans talking about? This is an EXPRESS provocation and an act of aggression! I can imagine what screams would be heard if a link of Russian bombers from Cuba or Venezuela flew over the American borders !!!
          3. dorz
            dorz 5 September 2020 12: 15 New
            +1
            Opportunity to contain Russia ...

            The real threat is American submarines in the Barents Sea, and the flights of 70-year-old dinosaurs are in full view of distraction. sad
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 5 September 2020 09: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys.

          Where the air defense divisions are located, the Yankees know very well. Another thing is to open the system of state identification "friend or foe".
          And it's boring to work out training targets.

          Have you tried to work on "control goals"? It is much easier to fill up a bourgeois
          1. ancient
            ancient 5 September 2020 13: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: Tusv
            Where the air defense divisions are located, the Yankees know very well.

            I totally agree, that's just the main thing .. "not where" ... and most importantly .. "how" ... ie. complex reaction time wink and wanted to go "further", but here I read belay
            Quote: Tusv
            Another thing is to open the system of state identification "friend or foe".

            And quietly and slowly "I fall into a stupor" ........ this is how it is, how it is like this belay wassat ?
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 5 September 2020 14: 06 New
              +1
              Quote: ancient
              And quietly and slowly "I fall into a stupor" ........ this is how it is, how it is like this

              Yes, these "experts" are ready to comment on everything
              what they see. Because of their "comments" not immediately
              and you will notice something good.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 5 September 2020 14: 51 New
                0
                Quote: Bez 310
                Yes, these "experts" are ready to comment on everything

                In in. You did not serve in the air defense on the border, but your opinion is probably the most correct. A virtual minus for you, because I don’t put material values ​​in principle, unless you offend my country
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 5 September 2020 14: 38 New
              0
              Quote: ancient
              And quietly and slowly "I fall into a stupor" ........ this is how it is, how it is like this

              And what's not clear here. Orions Poseidons fly it is understandable - they are looking for submarines. And what does the RS-135 do every day? Does the air defense response time record? Then who is he, an extra? It detects the codes for study and decryption. The other options are ridiculous. Otherwise, Our pilots quite calmly allowed us to approach the 12 miles from the coast, prescribed by international law. Air defense is not Gai, take the right. But the air threat prevention system hi
              1. ancient
                ancient 5 September 2020 15: 14 New
                +2
                Quote: Tusv
                It detects the codes for study and decryption.

                Everything is clear ... you are not familiar with the order and "scheme of action" of the SRZO system bully
                In short, now "Everything and everything" works on all WORLD and KNOWN to all frequencies - 1030/1090 MHz wink but .. "order of parcels" (the work of the defendant) has ... several hundred BILLION combinations, bully which, in addition, also vary in time intervals. wassat
                Therefore, the "probable" enemy can even ... before the creation of a new universe .. try something there .. "open" in system C wink SRZO.
                Why only response time ... all frequencies, all communication and control channels, where, who and when and what includes ... the ranges ... well, etc. etc.
                Quote: Tusv
                Otherwise, Our pilots quite calmly allowed us to approach the 12 miles from the coast, prescribed by international law. Air defense is not Gai, take the right. But the air threat prevention system

                and this is generally ... "at no gate ...." wassat .. So at 50-100 km you can carry out the RER, but if at 22,5 km .... is it already a threat?
                Or maybe all the same it is already the territory of the Russian Federation?
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 5 September 2020 15: 28 New
                  -1
                  Quote: ancient
                  Everything is clear ... you are not familiar with the order and "scheme of action" of the SRZO system

                  That's where Copenhagen is not, so incompetent. Although they belonged to the artillery.
                  but .. "order of parcels" (the work of the defendant) has ... several hundred BILLION combinations,

                  And here the key is important and the Yankees are stubbornly looking for it.
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 5 September 2020 15: 40 New
                    0
                    Quote: ancient
                    and this is generally ... "in any gate ...." wassat .. So at 50-100 km you can carry out the RER, but if at 22,5 km .... is it already a threat?

                    Exaggerating the mister interlocutor. The most important target can vary as well as the communication frequencies. According to the electronic warfare source, the first missile will be
                    1. ancient
                      ancient 5 September 2020 15: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Exaggerating mister interlocutor

                      I state a fact! soldier
                      Quote: Tusv
                      The most important target can vary as well as the communication frequencies.

                      Absolutely true ... but that's not what we are talking about wink
                      Quote: Tusv
                      According to the electronic warfare source, the first missile will be

                      And not only ... for all means of RTO, RTS and RES in the same way. soldier
                      1. Tusv
                        Tusv 5 September 2020 15: 57 New
                        0
                        Quote: ancient
                        And not only ... for all means of RTO, RTS and RES in the same way.

                        These are ground stations, the paramilitaries do not hit them, even their own aircraft. Let us suppress the air and the Air Force personnel will fly there
                  2. ancient
                    ancient 5 September 2020 15: 50 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Tusv
                    And here the key is important and the Yankees are stubbornly looking for it.

                    The key is ... simple "numbers" ... the switch is put in the position that you have "specified" at a certain time, the switch is reset to a different position.
                    This "responder" chooses one of .. several hundred billion combinations of "burst signal" .......
                    So looking for a key .. is not even looking for a needle in a haystack, but looking for the order of "folding" the herbarium from different leaves in the autumn forest (and the leaves should be folded according to the number of veins and petals " wassat
                    Therefore, when the plane "boom" or with a large overload on the "fuck" lane or during an emergency exit or landing "at the enemy" you press the book. "Explosion", then .. "tongue" splits and many hundreds of billions fall out from there .. "stuff" .... you can try ... collect wassat wink soldier
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 5 September 2020 15: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: ancient
                      So looking for a key .. is not even looking for a needle in a haystack, but looking for the order of "folding" the herbarium from different leaves in the autumn forest (and the leaves should be folded according to the number of veins and petals "

                      Oh my God. They searched for Enigma, but it turns out that the herbarium was collected
                      1. ancient
                        ancient 5 September 2020 16: 24 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Tusv
                        They searched for Enigma, but it turns out that the herbarium was collected

                        Enigma, as it turned out .... easier ... since the "things" besides their "oh belay rendered "quantities, still different in size (and length and thickness) wassat bully wink
                      2. Tusv
                        Tusv 5 September 2020 16: 40 New
                        +1
                        Quote: ancient
                        Enigma, as it turned out ... easier ...

                        And here I am not Copenhagen, you have to ask the child, he is just for these things.
                        I'm Paramilitary ONLI. I do not see - I stupidly switch modes and "slander" on white and fluffy NATO pepelats on DCP I report
            3. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 5 September 2020 18: 46 New
              0
              Poseidon was flying drones hi
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 5 September 2020 10: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        They opened the air defense system.

        Because they flapped their ears in Ukraine in '14, so mattresses fly around our underbelly like at home.
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Belarus "jumped", can S-400 and stand there.

        Surely they will. But I think, rather not the S-400, but the Antey-4000, which has a declared radius of 380 km, and which is already exported.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 5 September 2020 12: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          .But I think, rather not the S-400, but the Antey-4000, which has a declared radius of 380 km, and which is already exported.

          Andrei hi The Antey-4000 is an export version of the S300B4, which is the military version of the S-400. And while Anthei 2500 is being exported
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 5 September 2020 12: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Tusv
            Andrei

            Vladimir hi
            Quote: Tusv
            Antey-4000 is an export version of С300В4

            I know. But I think that S-400s will not be delivered to Belarus, but rather Antey-4000 in the near future.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 5 September 2020 12: 15 New
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              But I think that S-400s will not be delivered to Belarus, but rather Antey-4000 in the near future.

              Well I do not know. The military version in the basic configuration will be more expensive
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 5 September 2020 13: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets.

        hi , Eugene.
        But IMHO this is a serious "statement" of the US and NATO. For the first time, strategic bombers appeared in the skies of the former Ukraine. And this is very dangerous because can become a permanent factor. Russia must somehow resolutely suppress this through diplomatic and military-defensive means. Our "wi-za-wi" are getting impudent every day and it is "fraught" - reminds the eve of the Second World War.
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon 5 September 2020 14: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Quote: FenH
        Now we are waiting for screams about the fact that ours are again scaring their "peaceful pilots"

        They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys. And soon there will be S-500. After they "jumped" on Belarus, the S-400 can stand there too. Together with the airbase. On which fighters ... Fly, "doves of peace" ... Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets ... wassat

        Very similar to the CIA operation with the South Korean Boeing 747 over Sakhalin in 1983. Then, too, the "passenger" was only a decoy for opening the air defense system. Now the adversaries have decided to use the B-52 in this role, in the hope that they will not shoot him down.
      5. RVAPatriot
        RVAPatriot 5 September 2020 23: 50 New
        -1
        Belarus...
  • Asad
    Asad 5 September 2020 08: 22 New
    +3
    I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?
    1. apro
      apro 5 September 2020 08: 31 New
      -25
      Quote: ASAD
      I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

      Will you have enough spirit?
      1. FenH
        FenH 5 September 2020 08: 36 New
        21
        Quote: apro

        Will you have enough spirit?

        Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you
        1. Husit
          Husit 5 September 2020 08: 42 New
          +9
          Quote: FenH
          Quote: apro

          Will you have enough spirit?

          Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you

          Such people in the 90s knelt down in front of the United States and took off their hats slavishly and wanted the whole of Russia to do this .. But thank God they woke up!
          Bastards will reach someday ..
        2. apro
          apro 5 September 2020 08: 43 New
          -30
          Quote: FenH
          Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you

          And when did the Russian Americans knock down? And the second question is, how will you explain to the right guys later? with whom do you keep the money?
          1. FenH
            FenH 5 September 2020 08: 47 New
            14
            Quote: apro
            Quote: FenH
            Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you

            And when did the Russian Americans shoot down?

            Last time in 1969
            Quote: apro
            And the second question is, how will you explain to the right guys later? with whom do you keep the money?

            I keep my money in a three-liter bank. And the air defense personnel are about the same. And how will you take your money from the Americans, this is of little interest to them and me
            1. apro
              apro 5 September 2020 08: 51 New
              -25
              Quote: FenH
              Last time in 1969

              Do not confuse yourself with Soviet ones. It does not turn out beautifully.
              Quote: FenH
              I keep my money in a three-liter bank

              So you do not solve such questions ...
              1. FenH
                FenH 5 September 2020 09: 04 New
                11
                Quote: apro
                Quote: FenH
                Last time in 1969

                Do not confuse yourself with the Soviet.

                You do not succeed when, after the collapse of the USSR, the Americans flew into the territory of Russia and were not shot down ?.
                Quote: FenH
                I keep my money in a three-liter bank

                Quote: apro
                So you do not solve such questions ...

                You need to read my comment carefully, I wrote to you that there is no money air defense calculation in foreign banks
              2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 5 September 2020 09: 10 New
                14
                Quote: apro
                and then how will you explain yourself to the right guys? with whom do you keep the money?

                So you don't solve such questions ..

                What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                Ask it to the right guys.
                Will the spirit be enough?
                1. apro
                  apro 5 September 2020 09: 12 New
                  -18
                  Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                  What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                  Ask it to the right guys.
                  Will the spirit be enough?

                  It's easier for the Soviets. For them, the Americans are enemies.
                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 5 September 2020 09: 21 New
                    +9
                    Quote: apro
                    It's easier for the Soviets. For them, the Americans are enemies.

                    Why does Russia still exist as an independent state, and not dismembered and plundered, if all the money of all Russian elites, including families, has long been "there"?
                  2. FenH
                    FenH 5 September 2020 10: 29 New
                    +1
                    Quote: apro
                    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                    What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                    Ask it to the right guys.
                    Will the spirit be enough?

                    It's easier for the Soviet. for them the Americans are enemies.

                    Especially the children and grandchildren of the GS, everyone moved to America
                    Sergey Khrushchev died June 18 at his home in Cranston, state Rhode Island.
                    1. apro
                      apro 5 September 2020 10: 34 New
                      -6
                      Quote: FenH
                      Quote: apro
                      Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                      What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                      Ask it to the right guys.
                      Will the spirit be enough?

                      It's easier for the Soviet. for them the Americans are enemies.

                      Especially the children and grandchildren of the GS, everyone moved to America
                      Sergey Khrushchev died June 18 at his home in Cranston, state Rhode Island.

                      Ordinary Russians. And have nothing to do with the Soviet.
                      1. FenH
                        FenH 5 September 2020 10: 38 New
                        +5
                        Quote: apro
                        Quote: FenH
                        Quote: apro
                        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                        What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                        Ask it to the right guys.
                        Will the spirit be enough?

                        It's easier for the Soviet. for them the Americans are enemies.

                        Especially the children and grandchildren of the GS, everyone moved to America
                        Sergey Khrushchev died June 18 at his home in Cranston, state Rhode Island.

                        Ordinary Russians. And to soviet have nothing to do.

                        Why did he become “usually Russian?” Whatever is Soviet, who was his dad, where did he get his education, where did he grow up?
                      2. apro
                        apro 5 September 2020 10: 39 New
                        -4
                        How I handed over the USSR passport ... when I betrayed ...
                      3. FenH
                        FenH 5 September 2020 10: 40 New
                        +3
                        Quote: apro
                        How I handed over the USSR passport .. when I betrayed .

                        What kind of passport do you have now?
                      4. apro
                        apro 5 September 2020 10: 41 New
                        -1
                        Why are you interested in?
                      5. FenH
                        FenH 5 September 2020 10: 43 New
                        +1
                        To verify your statement, which I have highlighted
                      6. apro
                        apro 5 September 2020 10: 53 New
                        -3
                        Russian passport.
                      7. FenH
                        FenH 5 September 2020 10: 55 New
                        +3
                        Quote: apro
                        Russian passport.

                        Then what side are you Soviet?
                        Quote: apro
                        How I handed over the USSR passport ... when I betrayed ...
                      8. apro
                        apro 5 September 2020 10: 59 New
                        -8
                        It's not for you to judge.
              3. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 24 New
                +1
                Quote: FenH
                What kind of passport do you have now?

                He's Israeli. Is it not clear from the show-off?
              4. FenH
                FenH 5 September 2020 13: 31 New
                0
                Most likely from the country 404, because he also does not breathe evenly towards Israel (maybe he was refused a residence permit)

              5. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 5 September 2020 13: 34 New
                +1
                The anecdote is actually harmless. I talked to him about the Israeli theme. So that he is a resident of the promised land.
              6. FenH
                FenH 5 September 2020 13: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: 30 vis
                The anecdote is actually harmless. I talked to him about the Israeli theme. So that he is a resident of the promised land.

                Confused, they are under the same icon on the avatar hi
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 5 September 2020 18: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: apro
    It's easier for the Soviets. For them, the Americans are enemies.

    Are they friends or masters for you? Where are you broadcasting from?
  • figwam
    figwam 5 September 2020 09: 18 New
    11
    Quote: apro
    Do not confuse yourself with Soviet ones. It does not turn out beautifully.

    Russia is the only legal successor of the USSR, you have renounced your past, but we have not.
    1. apro
      apro 5 September 2020 09: 20 New
      -23
      Quote: figvam
      Quote: apro
      Do not confuse yourself with Soviet ones. It does not turn out beautifully.

      Russia is the only legal successor of the USSR, you have renounced your past, but we have not.

      And in fact, can you confirm this? Or for a word of mouth ...
      1. figwam
        figwam 5 September 2020 09: 24 New
        16
        Quote: apro
        And in fact, can you confirm this? Or for a word of mouth ...

        What is there to confirm? Russia paid off all the financial debts of the USSR as a legal successor, all other republics remained in positive territory. Roughly speaking, 15 people took a loan, and gave one.
        1. apro
          apro 5 September 2020 09: 27 New
          -20
          And what about the continuity of politics, economic activity, military strategy, historical memory? I do not know that completely different states ... and if not antagonists ...
          1. figwam
            figwam 5 September 2020 09: 34 New
            +9
            Quote: apro
            And about the continuity of politics

            The policy of any state changes with the arrival of a new leader without changing the name of the country. The military strategy has remained the same, because the enemies are the same, the historical memory is at the same level, unlike your country.
          2. apro
            apro 5 September 2020 09: 40 New
            -13
            Quote: figvam
            historical memory at the same level in contrast to your country.

            Ie. Were the White Guards in the USSR the right guys? And the Nazi accomplice Mannerheim also had a sign? And Vilenin bonbu put it under the country, it was promoted in the USSR. And was there a frequent ownership of the means of production in the USSR?
            Interestingly you get it ....
          3. figwam
            figwam 5 September 2020 09: 55 New
            +5
            Quote: apro
            That is, the White Guards in the USSR were the right guys?

            No, they were pro-Western guys like Mannerheim and we remember that.
            Quote: apro
            and Vilenin planted a bonbu

            One politician criticizes another, what does continuity have to do with it?
            Quote: apro
            . and there was a frequent ownership of the means of production in the USSR?

            What does private property have to do with it? There was no property in China, now there is, and that modern China is not the legal successor of the previous China?
          4. apro
            apro 5 September 2020 10: 14 New
            -9
            Quote: figvam
            and we remember it

            I can hear it on TV screens, your president is talking about it ...
            Quote: figvam
            One politician criticizes another, what does continuity have to do with it?

            One politician does not criticize. And completely rejecting the legacy of another is not criticism.
          5. figwam
            figwam 5 September 2020 11: 07 New
            +1
            Quote: apro
            I can hear it on TV screens.

            Do not watch TV.

            The Russian Federation - Russia, in particular, belongs to the modern successor states. As the successor of the territorial and property rights of the RSFSR, it is at the same time the successor of the Soviet Union in the framework of fulfilling obligations under the previously concluded bilateral and multilateral treaties of the USSR. In particular, Russia became a permanent member of the UN Security Council, the owner of all Soviet weapons of mass destruction, all the property and debts of the USSR abroad.

            The Russian Federation continues to exercise the rights and fulfill the obligations arising from the international treaties concluded by the USSR, and the government of the Russian Federation will perform, instead of the government of the USSR, the functions of the depositary under the relevant international treaties.
            - Note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, dated January 13, 1992
      2. FenH
        FenH 5 September 2020 09: 57 New
        -2
        [quote = apro]
        That is, were the White Guards in the USSR the right guys? [/ Quote]
        They were officers of Russia who remained true to their oath and there was a civil war, where brother went against brother. And the reason for this is the revolution
        [/ quote] and Nazi accomplice Mannerheim also had a sign? / quote]
        Mannerheim was a Russian officer who fought against Germany in World War I. He became an accomplice of the Nazis when Lenin began the collapse of the Russian Empire and released Finland
        [/ quote] and VILENIN Bonbu planted it under the country, it was promoted in the USSR / quote]
        Yes!
        [/ quote] and there was private ownership of the means of production in the USSR? [/ quote]
        The days of NEP in school did not pass. The same 90s, adjusted for the time. It's good that Stalin strangled it.
        [/ quote] I wonder if you get it .... [/ quote]
        History is generally an interesting subject
  • iouris
    iouris 5 September 2020 13: 31 New
    0
    Quote: figvam
    Russia is the only legal successor of the USSR

    So the USSR - this was "Russia".
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 5 September 2020 11: 25 New
    0
    Quote: apro
    how will you later

    Quote: apro
    not beautifully obtained.

    In the word "shower" they make three mistakes, but all the same ... fellow laughing
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 11: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Paranoid50
      Quote: apro
      how will you later

      Quote: apro
      not beautifully obtained.

      In the word "shower" they make three mistakes, but all the same ... fellow laughing

      A person has an extremely negative attitude towards Russians, so you can forgive for mistakes, he is not his own hi
  • Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 10: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: FenH
    Last time in 1969

    On 24 August 1976, a pair of F-100 "Super Saber" fighter-bombers of the Turkish Air Force invaded Soviet airspace. One of them was shot down by a Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 10: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Adam Khomich
      Quote: FenH
      Last time in 1969

      On 24 August 1976, a pair of F-100 "Super Saber" fighter-bombers of the Turkish Air Force invaded Soviet airspace. One of them was shot down by a Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.

      so they asked about the Americans, and not about NATO, so our air defense systems distinguished themselves in many places and cleaned the sky wink
      1. Adam Khomich
        Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 10: 20 New
        -1
        Quote: FenH
        so they asked about the Americans

        It is not known who was "driving" :-)
  • Peter is not the first
    Peter is not the first 5 September 2020 10: 23 New
    -1
    I keep my money in a three-liter bank, and the air defense personnel are about the same.

    In a three-liter? This is good, you and the "air defense personnel" are oligarchs by Russian standards. I only have 800 milliliters. :)
    But the general of the air defense, or rather his elderly parents or schoolchildren, may have money in a foreign bank, next to a villa on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico.
    1. FenH
      FenH 5 September 2020 10: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Peter is not the first
      I keep my money in a three-liter bank, and the air defense personnel are about the same.

      In a three-liter? This is good, you and the "air defense personnel" are oligarchs by Russian standards. I only have 800 milliliters. :)
      But the air defense general
      , or rather, his elderly parents or schoolchildren, money can lie in a foreign bank, next to a villa on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico.

      It's good that the calculations are not from the generals wink
      1. Peter is not the first
        Peter is not the first 5 September 2020 10: 28 New
        -1
        But without an order, air defense calculations will only be monitored. This has already taken place in the USSR with Matias Rust.
        1. FenH
          FenH 5 September 2020 10: 31 New
          0
          Quote: Peter is not the first
          But without an order, air defense calculations will only be monitored. This has already taken place in the USSR with Matias Rust.

          No one will track these, they will begin to extinguish them 20 kilometers from the state border.
  • Adam Khomich
    Adam Khomich 5 September 2020 10: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: apro
    And when did the Russian Americans shoot down?

    https://aif.ru/society/history/vozdushnaya_voyna_kak_sssr_unichtozhal_samolety_nato
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 5 September 2020 08: 48 New
    +2
    what does the spirit have to do with it? are you normal strategists carrying nuclear weapons cross the state border. this is generally a declaration of war can be considered. and not just shot down.
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 5 September 2020 10: 52 New
      -1
      Duc like B-1 recently violated the border in the east and no one declared war.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 5 September 2020 11: 38 New
        0
        what? I don’t remember that. with regard to war, there is a clear plan of action for these cases. pilots can describe in more detail here.
  • figwam
    figwam 5 September 2020 09: 04 New
    +8
    Quote: apro
    Will you have enough spirit?

    The spirit will not be enough to fly in)))
    1. apro
      apro 5 September 2020 09: 23 New
      -14
      Quote: figvam
      The spirit will not be enough to fly in)))

      So they flew in ... Americans from Russia are still raking out material values.
      1. figwam
        figwam 5 September 2020 09: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: apro
        material values ​​are still being razed from Russia.

        Valuables are shoveled from the outskirts, not from Russia.
        1. apro
          apro 5 September 2020 09: 41 New
          -9
          Quote: figvam
          Valuables are shoveled from the outskirts, not from Russia.

          Take an interest in the export of capital from Russia ..
          1. figwam
            figwam 5 September 2020 09: 57 New
            +5
            Quote: apro
            Take an interest in the export of capital from Russia ..

            Capital has always been exported and imported, this is how it works.
            1. apro
              apro 5 September 2020 10: 16 New
              -6
              Quote: figvam
              Capital has always been exported and imported, this is how it works.

              This is how the colonial economy works ...
              1. figwam
                figwam 5 September 2020 10: 51 New
                +1
                Quote: apro
                This is how the colonial economy works ...

                Colonial works like this)))

        2. Avior
          Avior 5 September 2020 10: 08 New
          -1
          What kind of values ​​are they scooped up?
          Sunflower seeds? No matter how others are seen ...
          1. figwam
            figwam 5 September 2020 10: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: Avior
            What kind of values ​​are they scooped up?

            And people are not raked out to work for the new Reich?
            Aren't they selling fertile lands?
            And the money is not taken out? Or has the outskirts become rich in the last 6 years?
            1. Avior
              Avior 5 September 2020 11: 43 New
              -3
              Are they taking out the land?
              Are people being shoveled out?
              You don't confuse anything for 80 years like this?
              Are Ukrainian hryvnias exported? Is that value too? smile
              What are you talking about?
              And about getting rich, of course not.
              But salaries are still growing.
              https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/ukraina/
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 5 September 2020 13: 31 New
                +1
                Quote: Avior
                But salaries are still growing.

                Yeah, they are growing, only the standard of living is falling. laughing laughing
                1. Avior
                  Avior 5 September 2020 14: 53 New
                  0
                  Yeah, real incomes are going up, but the level is going down. Sure.
                  You are telling this situation five years ago.
                  Let’s still how the communal apartment is growing, there is just in the next branch.
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 6 September 2020 14: 24 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Avior
                    You are telling this situation five years ago

                    ... I live in Ukraine, and I don't need to "blow in my ears". I see and feel the situation from the inside, and as they say on my own skin. Since the fall, gas prices have increased by no less than 40%. At 40 Karl. So, a trifle. For the third month, the deputies in the parliament have been arguing whether to raise pensions by 230 grams, this is a lot or a little. And so wherever you go. This is only in a material presentation, but about the "moral and spiritual", I generally keep quiet. Tin. Where did you get the information that "everything is fine" in Ukraine, I don't know. Probably from official Ukrainian sources. But if you believe them, then Ukraine has been living in paradise for a long time. But in paradise, as you know, Adam and Eve lived naked under a bush. So here the analogy with Ukraine is appropriate. And the fact that Ukraine is officially recognized as the poorest country in Europe, you probably have not heard.
                  2. Avior
                    Avior 6 September 2020 14: 46 New
                    0
                    you seem to have written that you left Ukraine. returned or what?
                    As for gas, there is a floating price in Ukraine, but even after this rise in price, gas will be twice as cheap as five years ago. And the salary during this time has tripled, which is the average, which is the minimum. Why did your level drop personally, I don't know - well, it happens.
                    and I did not write that everything is fine in Ukraine and that there is paradise.
                  3. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 6 September 2020 15: 12 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Avior
                    you seem to have written that you left Ukraine. returned or what?

                    First, he never wrote that he was leaving. I'll leave, that's for sure, I hope that not in the distant future, but as soon as possible. And secondly, once again. I don’t understand where you got this information regarding utility tariffs. There was no such thing that something would become cheaper in Ukraine (deputies and ministers with oligarchs will hang themselves). In a country that flies into the abyss and which lives on the principle of "everything for sale", prices for the population can only rise. This overseas buyers can make a discount on land, or still working infrastructure. From the population, you need to squeeze everything out. And then the population for sale. To Poland, or somewhere else that is already flourishing in full swing, under the guise of "visa-free" (for which it was allowed). I am generally silent about child trafficking, surrogacy is on the way. Sometimes I think for a long time what good has been done in "independent" Ukraine (especially over the past six years), and I do not find a single positive example. Absolutely. If there is still something good left, then this is a part of people who are adequate, but there are few of them, and every year, there are fewer.
                    And the salary during this time has tripled, which is the average, which is the minimum
                    And the dollar went up by three, and prices accordingly. And they crawl higher, and are not going to stop. And about three times the salary is not needed. Fell in two. Not minimal, but real, in terms of purchasing power.
                  4. Avior
                    Avior 6 September 2020 15: 23 New
                    0
                    uh huh. 21st century in the yard, tariffs are not a problem
                    Gas tariffs for the population
                    with 1.04.2015 on 30.04.2016

                    https://index.minfin.com.ua/tariff/gas/2015-04-01/
                    There was no such thing that something would be cheaper in Ukraine

                    smile
                  5. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 6 September 2020 15: 53 New
                    +1
                    What are you poking at me with officialdom. I pay for gas not according to "official" information from the Internet, but according to the payments I receive. It has never happened that the numbers in the accounts decreased, only increased. In Ukraine, it does not matter whether the price of gas falls or increases, in any case, the population will always pay more. This is the local law of the universe. If the population pays less, then someone at the top will not count billions, but in Ukraine, corruption is all right, do not worry, they will not let their own go. In addition, the IMF, whose Ukraine has long been in slavery for debts, requires a constant increase in prices for housing and communal services. Although I’m lying, there were a couple of months last year, in the summer, when, indeed, payments came with amounts slightly less than usual. I was very surprised then.
                  6. Avior
                    Avior 6 September 2020 22: 10 New
                    +1
                    In addition to the price, the amount of gas consumed is also included in the payment.
                    If you consume more, pay more.
                    A common practice everywhere.
                    If consumed as usual, recalculate.
  • Cube123
    Cube123 5 September 2020 08: 40 New
    0
    Quote: ASAD
    I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

    "NATO supported Turkey's version of the bomber's violation of Turkish airspace [20]. According to the BBC, from the data provided by the Turkish side, it follows that the shot down the plane was in Turkish airspace for about six seconds[13]. In an interview with NBC News and Reuters, representatives of the US Department of Defense, on condition of anonymity, said that, according to their information, the plane was attacked 2-3 seconds after entering Turkish airspace [28] and shot down by a Turkish missile over Syrian territory. [29] "

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D1%83-24_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 5 September 2020 08: 45 New
    -5
    Quote: ASAD
    I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

    Erdogan knocked down the Russian attack aircraft as soon as the shadow from the wing accidentally touched the border post.
    But that is a single attack aircraft, and these are two triples of strategists ...
  • venik
    venik 5 September 2020 09: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: ASAD
    I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

    ========
    As far as I know - immediately after crossing the state border (airspace) line, if he does not react on warnings about approaching the border and entering foreign airspace and at the same time continues to fly deep into the territory... Like so! hi
  • Tusv
    Tusv 5 September 2020 10: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: ASAD
    I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

    According to the old rules and it seems that they have not been canceled - we have every right to destroy 20 km to the border of a potential carrier of nuclear weapons. Other people are offered a choice: Lubricate the heels, get full board at the airfield Guba, go to a better world, if the Lord is near
    1. Bez 310
      Bez 310 5 September 2020 10: 26 New
      -3
      Quote: Tusv
      We have every right to destroy 20 km to the border of a potential carrier of nuclear weapons.

      Stop carrying heresy!
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 5 September 2020 10: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        Stop carrying heresy!

        The B-61 is by no means heresy, and now it is 70 km of planning. In our time, only 20 and believe me, the readiness to destroy the carrier 20 km from the border was not heretical hi
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 5 September 2020 10: 42 New
          -3
          Willingness to work on the offender, and the right to destroy -
          two big differences. Don't fool our brains!
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 5 September 2020 10: 48 New
            +1
            Did you also serve in the air defense guards on the border? So we had such a right. Another thing Sushki did not allow anyone closer than 70 km. And yes, the flyers have this rule. As before, they "unprofessionally" drive away any abomination from the border at this line. Although the bourgeois has the right, the international space. So we put a very decent bolt on the international space
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 5 September 2020 11: 53 New
              0
              It seems to me that you are delusional ...
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 5 September 2020 12: 08 New
                0
                But it seems to me that you are not a Paramilitary, since you do not know the rules of air defense
  • Charik
    Charik 5 September 2020 10: 44 New
    +1
    Shoot down by the rules laughing - by the rules of boxing or M1?
  • apro
    apro 5 September 2020 08: 23 New
    -12
    Well, what can we say about this ... the aviation of the CIS in the post-Soviet space, especially over the country. Of the so-called Russian world, is a great success of Russian politics.
    This is not a military threat, but a civilizational failure of Russia.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 5 September 2020 08: 27 New
      -8
      There was no time to engage in politics, money and assets were taken away and hidden from the people, this is the result.
      1. FenH
        FenH 5 September 2020 08: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Pessimist22
        here is the result.

        This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew
        1. apro
          apro 5 September 2020 08: 45 New
          -15
          Quote: FenH
          This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew

          Do not breed redness ... pzhlsta. Today the government is quite civilized. With common human values. They themselves must build a new Russia ...
          1. FenH
            FenH 5 September 2020 08: 52 New
            +5
            Quote: apro
            Quote: FenH
            This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew

            Do not breed redness ... pzhlsta. Today the government is quite civilized. With common human values. to build a new Russia...

            It is immediately clear that you have never built anything in your life. Any construction requires a foundation, in a specific case it is the history of the country. On what foundation are you going to build a "new Russia", if you even write your homeland with a small letter?
            1. apro
              apro 5 September 2020 08: 57 New
              -12
              Quote: FenH
              On what foundation are you going to build "new Russia"

              The old USSR suits me ...
              1. FenH
                FenH 5 September 2020 08: 59 New
                +6
                Quote: apro
                Quote: FenH
                On what foundation are you going to build "new Russia"

                The old USSR suits me ...

                And at this stage of history, no, why does Russia now need the dying out tribalts, Georgia?
                1. apro
                  apro 5 September 2020 09: 03 New
                  -12
                  Quote: FenH
                  Why does Russia now need the dying out tribalts, Georgia?

                  So the Russians are not particularly needed ... especially those who did not fit into the market.
                  1. FenH
                    FenH 5 September 2020 09: 07 New
                    +3
                    Quote: apro
                    Quote: FenH
                    Why does Russia now need the dying out tribalts, Georgia?

                    So the Russians are not particularly needed ... especially those who did not fit into the market.

                    Who doesn't need Russians, Russia?
                    1. apro
                      apro 5 September 2020 09: 09 New
                      -11
                      Quote: FenH
                      Who doesn't need Russians, Russia?

                      As you guessed ...
                      1. FenH
                        FenH 5 September 2020 09: 12 New
                        +5
                        Quote: apro
                        Quote: FenH
                        Who doesn't need Russians, Russia?

                        As you guessed ...

                        I will not comment on your nonsense
          2. businessv
            businessv 5 September 2020 11: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: apro
            Do not breed redness ... pzhlsta. Today the power is quite civilized. With universal values.

            And can you list the basic "universal" values ​​that you are talking about and which were not in the Union? Only without water and fiddling "pzhalsta"!
            1. apro
              apro 5 September 2020 11: 06 New
              -6
              Grandmothers decide everything.
              1. businessv
                businessv 5 September 2020 15: 13 New
                0
                Quote: apro
                Grandmothers decide everything.

                I thought so! You swim fine! hi
                1. apro
                  apro 5 September 2020 15: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: businessv
                  Quote: apro
                  Grandmothers decide everything.

                  I thought so! You swim fine! hi

                  And what's wrong? A capitalistic country of the 3rd world. What can it offer its population?
                  1. businessv
                    businessv 5 September 2020 19: 55 New
                    0
                    Quote: apro
                    And what's wrong? A capitalistic country of the 3rd world. What can it offer its population?

                    What country are you talking about? The feeling that you are still in school and, judging by the comments, are not very good at it. Russia owns the largest territories and resources in the world, hence all the fuss. But to you, I think, this does not mean anything. Post nonsense regularly. hi
        2. Husit
          Husit 5 September 2020 08: 51 New
          -1
          Quote: FenH
          Quote: Pessimist22
          here is the result.

          This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew

          It all started with Khrushch .. He took revenge on Stalin for his humiliation of the bastard It was not for nothing that Mao called him a colobarismist
          1. Pessimist22
            Pessimist22 5 September 2020 08: 57 New
            -1
            I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?
            1. apro
              apro 5 September 2020 09: 02 New
              -9
              Quote: Pessimist22
              I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?

              Pessimist. I have not heard that the IVS Stalin in the 30th year of Soviet power blamed the tsarist regime for something. They solved their problems themselves ...
              1. Husit
                Husit 5 September 2020 09: 27 New
                +2
                Quote: apro
                I have not heard that the IVS Stalin in the 30th year of Soviet power blamed the tsarist regime for something. They solved their problems themselves ...

                But this is a very good remark .. It was YOURSELF who decided the empire on its side, there was a complete blockade !!! Complete devastation after the civil war .. And from these wreckages the USSR was assembled! Here, organizational genius is needed, etc.
                That Stalin showed, well, not by democratic methods of course))))) But he left the country as a world power, social and technological developed .. Until now, we hold on to this steel foundation ..
            2. FenH
              FenH 5 September 2020 09: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: Pessimist22
              I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?

              The logic is simple, that in Ukraine the descendants of the nationalists released by Khrushchev are in power, you will find photographs of the "veterans" of una-unso yourself, for just how they were equated with the veterans of the Great Patriotic War
            3. Husit
              Husit 5 September 2020 09: 17 New
              +2
              Quote: Pessimist22
              I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?

              BRIEFLY Bandera released and gave the Crimea (exactly gave) to Ukraine !!!!!
              Here is the result !!!! And this is also

              This is how things are going .. I hope you understand me hi
    2. businessv
      businessv 5 September 2020 11: 10 New
      0
      Quote: apro
      This is not a military threat, but a civilizational failure of Russia.

      Did you realize that you had sprinkled it? In your opinion, Russia has a separate civilizational path from the rest of the world, obviously extraterrestrial ?! Cool! Have a psychologist had a long time? laughing
      1. apro
        apro 5 September 2020 11: 17 New
        -6
        Quote: businessv
        In your opinion, Russia is separate from the rest of the world,

        Each formation in a certain territory has its own path, its own methods, its own goal of expansion, otherwise extinction and disappearance from the map of history as a priest.
  • cniza
    cniza 5 September 2020 08: 37 New
    +6
    The flights of a group of American strategic bombers B-52H in the airspace of Ukraine near Crimea have demonstrated the ability to contain Russia. This is stated in the statement of the US Air Force Command in Europe.


    No, this is a direct threat ...
    1. Russ
      Russ 5 September 2020 08: 50 New
      +2
      No, this is a direct threat ...

      Come on ... they were showing off and quickly dumped to sit out, out of harm's way ...
      as part of the temporary transfer of six B-52H strategic bombers to the UK
      1. cniza
        cniza 5 September 2020 08: 52 New
        +3
        Here they showed off, and there, in the Pentagon, they poured cold sweat on, perfectly understanding how such games could end ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 5 September 2020 11: 47 New
          +1
          And there will be something to put pressure on the generals when the politicians decide / go crazy.
          1. cniza
            cniza 5 September 2020 12: 01 New
            +2
            I hope they understand what the consequences might be ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 5 September 2020 12: 26 New
              +1
              The hope for a sense of self-preservation is the last frontier .... however, maybe we DON'T KNOW something ???
              1. cniza
                cniza 5 September 2020 12: 30 New
                +2
                Quote: rocket757
                however, maybe we DO NOT KNOW something ???


                I thought about it, but it seems to me that this new generation does not know something, living in the virtual world and when they come to power, then everything can be ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 5 September 2020 13: 10 New
                  +1
                  I don’t want to guess, there is not enough information to make reasonable conclusions.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 5 September 2020 13: 27 New
                    +2
                    Not guessing is not a rewarding business, it just remains to wait a little ...
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 5 September 2020 13: 49 New
                      +1
                      This event, such a dumb br r r! If I can't wait, I WILL NOT BE upset!
    2. Husit
      Husit 5 September 2020 08: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      No, this is a direct threat ...

      That's right, Victor! And these things obviously do not fly with empty bombs .. So far you have to hooligan around them, but your nerves are at the limit ..
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 5 September 2020 08: 49 New
    0
    The Americans lie about "forward-based B-52 aircraft and crews contribute to collective security and provide the United States, NATO allies and partners with the ability to contain Russia." the Americans simply taught the crews to quickly change diapers, when the Russian avihuligans approached at flashes and dryings))) The role of hooligans in the exercises was performed by Ukrainian fighters))) And the reconnaissance planes watched so that the Ukrainians, due to inexperience, did not scare the amers to death)))
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 5 September 2020 08: 50 New
    +2
    Eight Russian fighters climbed to intercept 3 US strategic bombers over the Black Sea
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 5 September 2020 11: 01 New
      0
      Only now they did not fly not over the Black Sea, but near the Azov.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 5 September 2020 08: 51 New
    +3
    Opportunity to contain Russia ": the US commented on B-52H flights over Ukraine

    T-160 in the skies of Venezuela solely for the sake of the possibility of containing Colombia. Sounds silly? Stupid. And American sounds the same ..
  • Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 5 September 2020 08: 52 New
    -1
    Someone's only one cause .... "concern". There are many more "egg-pods" over the hill.
  • C-X
    C-X 5 September 2020 08: 56 New
    +3
    Some of the Soviet aces shot down 2 American planes - possibly Pokryshkin
    1. beeper
      beeper 5 September 2020 09: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: C-X
      Some of the Soviet aces shot down 2 American planes - possibly Pokryshkin

      hi Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub shot down a couple of presumptuous "Mustangs" in 1945, in the sky of Germany!
      And also in the skies of Korea?
    2. Gato
      Gato 5 September 2020 09: 35 New
      0
      They shot down a lot and without sentimentality.
      You can see it here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_with_the_of_foreign_aviation_about_the_USSR_(1946-1991)
  • Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 5 September 2020 09: 01 New
    0
    Keeping Russia close to its borders is great.
  • beeper
    beeper 5 September 2020 09: 01 New
    +3
    Eh, I heard this high-altitude hum of heavy jet aircraft (extremely rare now, after the "Malaysian" July 2014, in the Ukrainian sky), I was also very surprised at this event, I even wanted to look out on the street and see who the difficult one is carrying there ?! smile
    But I was too lazy to see what kind of "aircraft" were there (after all, the round dances of all kinds of transport and passenger Boeings, Airbuses and military "S-17" overhead I had seen enough over my head until the summer of 2014) - I did not know that these were "rare" -52 flew, I would prepare binoculars for such an occasion ... winked
  • Gato
    Gato 5 September 2020 09: 30 New
    -1
    What is the fuss about? Three ancient bombers flew from Britain to Ukraine? So even 70 years ago, B-17 flew near Poltava. Local slaves licked them under the tail? So it was not a surprise for anyone, it was good (for them) at least they did not crash.
    I think that the purpose of this raid was not so much to identify new air defense systems in the Crimea and Donbass region, but to frown towards Turkey.
    1. Zomanus
      Zomanus 5 September 2020 10: 10 New
      0
      Bombers and ours are quite ancient. Only now the weapon is not ancient. And now, not like during the Second World War, it is not necessary to fly into the enemy's territory. I flew up to my border, under the cover of my air defense, launched cruise missiles and all the rules.
      1. Gato
        Gato 5 September 2020 16: 00 New
        +1
        I flew up to my border, under the cover of my air defense, launched cruise missiles and all the rules.

        laughing
        If you can let the CD from your territory, then why load them on bombers? The carriers are used for this in order to minimize the flight time of the RC, even to the detriment of surprise. Well, and pull the nerves of the enemy in peacetime, where without it.
    2. businessv
      businessv 5 September 2020 10: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Gato
      I think that the purpose of this raid was not so much to identify new air defense systems in the Crimea and Donbass region, but to frown towards Turkey.

      IMHO, judging by the amount of intelligence of all types, the goal was precisely to identify the cumulative actions of our military.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 5 September 2020 09: 33 New
    +2
    Someone expected that minke whales would be there to observe something ??? do not strain, do not provoke?
    Empty hopes.
    1. cniza
      cniza 5 September 2020 12: 03 New
      +2
      The bad thing is elsewhere, in Ukraine they do what they want ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 September 2020 13: 05 New
        +1
        Normally, this area is now a GOAL!
        For those who can still think, this must be clearly and specifically designated !!! The games are over.
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 September 2020 13: 24 New
          +2
          This target with its nuclear power plants and our close presence is dangerous for us too ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 5 September 2020 13: 38 New
            +1
            At a critical moment, there will be no time ... either to lose EVERYTHING, or to smash the enemy wherever necessary!
            1. cniza
              cniza 5 September 2020 16: 12 New
              +2
              Hope this moment never comes ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 5 September 2020 16: 41 New
                +1
                About that and speech. There is no need to move from theoretical inventions to a practical plane.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 5 September 2020 17: 10 New
                  +3
                  There are too many people around who want to hurt people and make money on it ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 5 September 2020 18: 49 New
                    +1
                    There, and one Hollywood is enough for everyone!
        2. Bez 310
          Bez 310 5 September 2020 14: 09 New
          -1
          Quote: rocket757
          this territory is now PURPOSE!

          Well, tell me plainly - what territory, why is it NOW the goal, for whom?
          Why are you carrying some kind of blizzard?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 5 September 2020 14: 37 New
            0
            They turned to the wrong specialist, you are further down the corridor.
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 5 September 2020 09: 37 New
    +3
    The Americans clank with their rusty bits, rivets fall off the B-52, after all, this junk is more than half a century old. They were destroyed back in 1965 in Vietnam in batches, and now the 21st century is in the yard, and the modern air defense of Russia differs from what it was in 1965 as a Laser blaster from a flint gun.
    The USSR collapsed due to the mossiness of the Governing Party, in the current USA it is still more monstrous.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 5 September 2020 11: 43 New
      0
      The airplane is in two basic states - airworthy, and not airworthy!
      The bomber is SUMMER GOOD, it can fire a rocket, consider it UP!
      Everything, nothing else matters! Yes, he was here, he outlined a goal already at the place, by the fact of his presence!
      What other reasons are needed to send OUR bombers to the position of effective missile launch?
      This is not WAR yet, but this is a clear targeting!
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 5 September 2020 11: 59 New
        -1
        Quote: rocket757
        he was here, he outlined a goal already in place, in fact!

        How's that?
        Please explain what the conversation is about?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 5 September 2020 12: 24 New
          +1
          The aircraft enters the position, the flight program is adjusted according to the real location, the start button is pressed ... that's it, it starts.
          1. Bez 310
            Bez 310 5 September 2020 12: 27 New
            -1
            VONONOCHE ...
            And who "rushed", and where?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 5 September 2020 13: 06 New
              +1
              Yes, who where, we are in our paradise, and the rest ...
              1. Bez 310
                Bez 310 5 September 2020 14: 03 New
                -1
                I see, just rave ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 5 September 2020 14: 34 New
                  +2
                  What is the client, this form of communication. Receive, sign.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 5 September 2020 09: 39 New
    +1
    do they really think that it is safe to fly over Svidomo wassat
  • Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 5 September 2020 09: 53 New
    +3
    I'm starting to respect Khrushchev. He could knock on the podium with a slipper, he could provoke a missile crisis, he was considered a fool in the West. But they also feared him. They were afraid that they might commit an act, might use nuclear weapons. Now our leaders are neither afraid nor respected. On a good note, at the moment of crossing the Ukrainian border by a direct wire, warn that in half an hour the planes will be shot down and shot down if they do not leave. Otherwise, this policy of "toad jumping" by the United States will lead us to a national catastrophe such as "41 years". Today they fly with transponders, tomorrow without transponders, and the day after tomorrow with cruise missiles on board. I remember we openly stated that after the missile defense system was put on alert in Romania, we would destroy them with Iskander. So what? The missiles are already on alert, and we just stopped writing about it. We were counted long ago, all our reactions were counted, and they are slowly suffocating.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 5 September 2020 11: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Jurkovs
      But they also feared him. They were afraid that they might commit an act, might use nuclear weapons.

      And I would use it !!! And no one would dare to pull him by the sleeve !!!
      And what about US with this NOW ???
      1. cniza
        cniza 5 September 2020 12: 07 New
        +2
        Now it's hard to talk about it, I think that Khrushchev could have given a command, but whether they had fulfilled it or not, there could have been many conditions ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 5 September 2020 13: 08 New
          +1
          We will not guess .... b would fly back, there is no doubt about that.
          1. cniza
            cniza 5 September 2020 13: 26 New
            +2
            There is no doubt about the answer, but in other cases ...
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  • jaroff
    jaroff 5 September 2020 10: 06 New
    +2
    After that, unambiguously, in our military doctrine, it is necessary to consider Ukraine as a potential enemy.
    1. Charik
      Charik 5 September 2020 10: 55 New
      +2
      So Ukraine has been fighting against us for a long time - haven't you heard
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 September 2020 10: 08 New
    +1
    Oops, but the predictions come true. In reality, in 202 the world will be finally ready for a new world one. Opposing alliances of countries will be created, the world economy will be transformed into an isolated economy of these alliances. Actually, what we see now with Chinese high-tech and telecommunications. And we have complete import substitution and food security. It is clear that international regulators like the UN and WHO are either sent into the distant erotic or are simply ignored.
  • Nestor
    Nestor 5 September 2020 10: 10 New
    +1
    UV author, there is no Melitopol region in Ukraine, correct
  • Nestor
    Nestor 5 September 2020 10: 27 New
    -4
    Why are you so frightened of ancient bomb carriers coming with the included transponder and carrying imitators ?!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 5 September 2020 10: 34 New
    0
    And to think what will happen if you try to "contain" your mind is not enough? It will not be possible to sit out overseas, as in the previous two wars. And the bunkers won't save.
  • businessv
    businessv 5 September 2020 10: 49 New
    +1
    The flights of a group of American strategic bombers B-52H in the airspace of Ukraine near Crimea have demonstrated the ability to contain Russia.
    As always, minke whales confuse everything. This gives Russia the opportunity to confirm what it constantly asserts: the United States is an aggressor using every opportunity to unleash a war for resources in the territories of foreign countries. Particularly attractive are countries that are as far as possible from the aggressor in the event of the use of nuclear weapons, rich in resources and surrounded by countries that are minions of minke whales, controlled by them and ready to fight to the last citizen. Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Georgia are ideal for this role and even themselves are asking for the role of a battering ram, although their puppet leadership is well aware that their countries are threatened with destruction, but the contract has been signed, the money has been received and it is necessary to follow the instructions of the Washington regional committee and hope that they - then, successful blowjobs, will have time to escape when the real mess begins.
  • Alexander Chirukhin
    Alexander Chirukhin 5 September 2020 11: 00 New
    +2
    Ukrainians won't knock them down with their Buks
    that would be cool
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 5 September 2020 11: 39 New
    0
    Already nuclear missile carriers drove the horror of ishe and intelligence is flying something they are planning 100% it is necessary for our strategists to fly on the border of the USA!
    1. Consul
      Consul 5 September 2020 16: 01 New
      +9
      Quote: opuonmed
      it is necessary for our strategists to fly on the border of the united states!

      So ours fly there ...
  • dgonni
    dgonni 5 September 2020 13: 22 New
    0
    And that a new region has appeared in Ukraine? There is Zaporizhzhya, but no Melitopol.
    But that is.
    I just like the great geostrateg. In 2013, no one, even in a nightmare, could see American strategists over the territory of Ukraine in the immediate vicinity of the borders of Russia.
    At the moment, this is already a reality. Three strategists on alert in the air are 36 ELCMs with a launch range of up to 2700 km! How many are there to large industrial centers from ganitsa then? What is the reaction time to a threat?
    The awful mnogohodovochka came out. -900 km of operational depth and a blood enemy along the entire southwestern border!
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 5 September 2020 13: 39 New
    0
    Melitopol regions
    They would also write the Berdichev region, or the Konotop region. laughing
    1. Armored beast
      Armored beast 5 September 2020 17: 06 New
      0
      And soon it will be so! Districts in regions are already being redrawn, and it will come to regions. Administrative-territorial (demon) redistribution.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 6 September 2020 14: 12 New
        0
        You may be right. Living in Ukraine, I am not surprised at anything. If some kind of stupidity is possible in the world, then it will undoubtedly be implemented on the territory of Ukraine.
  • Vladimir NN
    Vladimir NN 5 September 2020 15: 01 New
    0
    The task of the American military contingent in Europe is to involve the nuclear powers in the conflict in order to destroy the Eurasian continent.
    1. Consul
      Consul 5 September 2020 16: 00 New
      +9
      Quote: Vladimir NN
      The task of the American military contingent in Europe is

      marking the borders of the US colonies. No one in the world will go to a nuclear war. There are no suicides.
  • d.zhuk2010
    d.zhuk2010 5 September 2020 16: 10 New
    0
    What the hell is the Melitopol region? The author studied at the Higher School of Economics or what? Zaporozhye region Melitopol district.
    1. Armored beast
      Armored beast 5 September 2020 17: 12 New
      0
      "According to Western aviation sources ..." All questions on new areas to enty sources.
  • Old26
    Old26 5 September 2020 19: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: Jurkovs
    I'm starting to respect Khrushchev. He could knock on the podium with a slipper, could have provoked a missile crisis,

    Respect for the fact that, because of his own conceit, he almost put the country on the brink of a thermonuclear war, which we would have lost with a 100% guarantee? Oh well

    Quote: Alex_You
    Duc like B-1 recently violated the border in the east and no one declared war.

    In the Sea of ​​Okhotsk? Didn't break it. We flew in neutral waters ..
  • IC
    IC 6 September 2020 00: 02 New
    0
    The situation in Ukraine has changed long ago. Thanks to Russia's policy towards Ukraine in recent years, public opinion there has changed. Now, for many in Ukraine, the entry of ships of the United States and other NATO countries into the Black Sea, flights of military aircraft and joint exercises, arouses a sense of pride and approval in many people. They view these events as involvement with the leading world powers. Although from the outside it looks somewhat comical.
    Until 2014, this was not possible.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 9 September 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    Melitopol region?)))) Author needs to present a globe of Banderland))) so that he knows that there is such a regional center - Zaporozhye, in the Melitopol region. And so, yes - a complete loss of sovereignty. Banderland is not a country, but a territory where everyone who wants to do their dirty deeds.
  • zabr
    zabr 19 September 2020 14: 57 New
    0
    It is time to conduct a Aerospace Forces exercise to suppress the military infrastructure of Ukraine with the involvement of strategic aviation, so that not a single harem pants remain empty.