"Opportunity to contain Russia": the US commented on the B-52H flights over Ukraine

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The flights of a group of American strategic bombers B-52H in the airspace of Ukraine near Crimea have demonstrated the ability to contain Russia. This is stated in the statement of the US Air Force Command in Europe.

According to the statement, flights of American strategists over Ukraine near the Crimean peninsula were planned in advance as part of the temporary transfer of six B-52H strategic bombers to the UK. During the exercise, three B-52 Stratofortress from the 5th Bomber Wing from the Minot base, together with Ukrainian fighters, flew over the territory of Ukraine, as close as possible to the Russian borders.



The mission provided the partner with a valuable opportunity to practice in the air. In addition, the mission demonstrated how forward-deployed B-52 aircraft and crews contribute to collective security and provide the United States, NATO allies and partners with the ability to contain Russia.

- stated in the Air Force Command.

According to Western aviation resources, American B-52N bombers entered the airspace of Ukraine over the Volyn region from Poland, flying over the Rivne, Zhytomyr regions and Kiev. After that, flying over the Kherson and Melitopol regions north of the Crimea, the strategists circled for about an hour and a half in an ellipse northeast of Genichesk along the coast of the Sea of ​​Azov.

At the same time, four reconnaissance aircraft were in the air at once - the American RC-135W and P-8A Poseidon, and the British RC-135W and Sentinel R.1, tracking the actions of the Russian military.
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    1. +11
      5 September 2020 08: 20
      [quote] At the same time, four reconnaissance aircraft were in the air at once - the American RC-135W and P-8A Poseidon, and the British RC-135W and Sentinel R.1, tracking the actions of the Russian military. / Quote] It would not be bad if our systems REP broadcasted cartoons about the sailor Popeye to them on radar screens, But this is probably still in development
      1. +2
        5 September 2020 08: 23
        [quote = mark1] [quote] At the same time, there were four reconnaissance aircraft in the air at once - the American RC-135W and P-8A Poseidon, and the British RC-135W and Sentinel R.1, tracking the actions of the Russian military. / quote] Not bad it would be if our REP systems broadcast cartoons about the sailor Popeye to them on radar screens, But this is probably still in development [/ quote]
        Just shugan our them
        According to the center, on September 4, Russian airspace control over the neutral waters of the Black Sea detected three US Air Force B-52H strategic bombers approaching the Russian state border, TASS reports.

        “In order to prevent the US Air Force planes from violating Russian airspace, four Su-27 fighters and four Su-30 fighters were raised from the air defense forces of the Southern Military District into the air over the Black and Azov Seas,” the center said.

        Now we are waiting for screams, about the fact that ours again scare them "peaceful pilots"
        1. +9
          5 September 2020 09: 25
          Quote: FenH
          Now we are waiting for screams about the fact that ours are again scaring their "peaceful pilots"

          They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys. And soon there will be S-500. After they "jumped" on Belarus, the S-400 can stand there too. Together with the airbase. On which fighters ... Fly, "doves of peace" ... Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets ... wassat
          1. 0
            5 September 2020 09: 30
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Quote: FenH
            Now we are waiting for screams about the fact that ours are again scaring their "peaceful pilots"

            They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys. And soon there will be S-500. After they "jumped" on Belarus, the S-400 can stand there too. Together with the airbase. On which fighters ... Fly, "doves of peace" ... Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets ... wassat

            One minus, the location to change and equip, and put the inflators on the illuminated places hi
            1. +3
              5 September 2020 09: 35
              Quote: FenH
              One minus, the location to change and equip, and put the inflators on the illuminated places

              So they are mobile, these divisions. I suppose they did not even work from their places of permanent deployment. We rolled out into the steppe for a hundred kilometers, and "shone" ... Or maybe they even raised the A-50. There he alone would have been enough. This whole circus. With horses.
            2. -3
              5 September 2020 09: 37
              It is necessary to bring them down.
              Return Ukraine.
              They are all fucking there.
              How much will they play in the liberals?

              Russians are being killed.
              Burned.

              And they don't give a fuck.

              Now bombers are flying.

              Then they will bomb.

              They only understand the power.
              1. +2
                5 September 2020 17: 45
                Khramov, 9.37
                I know that they will throw dislikes on me, like you. But I'll tell you!

                In 2014, I and many people wrote about possible similar cases and situations. I am fully confident that Russia and the Supreme Commander will NOT surrender Ukraine and will NOT allow such an outrage: after all, there are only 500 kilometers from the Ukrainian border to Moscow! Handed over. Allowed. What remains now? Just watch and deliver notes of protest!

                And what kind of "containment" are the Americans talking about? This is an EXPRESS provocation and an act of aggression! I can imagine what screams would be heard if a link of Russian bombers from Cuba or Venezuela flew over the American borders !!!
            3. +1
              5 September 2020 12: 15
              Opportunity to contain Russia ...

              The real threat is American submarines in the Barents Sea, and the flights of 70-year-old dinosaurs are in full view of distraction. sad
          2. 0
            5 September 2020 09: 51
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys.

            Where the air defense divisions are located, the Yankees know very well. Another thing is to open the system of state identification "friend or foe".
            And it's boring to work out training targets.

            Have you tried to work on "control goals"? It is much easier to fill up a bourgeois
            1. +1
              5 September 2020 13: 12
              Quote: Tusv
              Where the air defense divisions are located, the Yankees know very well.

              I totally agree, that's just the main thing .. "not where" ... and most importantly .. "how" ... ie. complex reaction time wink and wanted to go "further", but here I read belay
              Quote: Tusv
              Another thing is to open the system of state identification "friend or foe".

              And quietly and slowly "falling into a stupor" ........ this is how it is, how is it belay wassat ?
              1. +1
                5 September 2020 14: 06
                Quote: ancient
                And quietly and slowly "falling into a stupor" ........ this is how it is, how is it

                Yes, these "experts" are ready to comment on everything
                what they see. Because of their "comments" not immediately
                and you will notice something good.
                1. 0
                  5 September 2020 14: 51
                  Quote: Bez 310
                  Yes, these "experts" are ready to comment on everything

                  In in. You did not serve in the air defense on the border, but your opinion is probably the most correct. A virtual minus for you, because I don’t put material values ​​in principle, unless you offend my country
              2. 0
                5 September 2020 14: 38
                Quote: ancient
                And quietly and slowly "falling into a stupor" ........ this is how it is, how is it

                And what's not clear here. Orions Poseidons fly it is understandable - they are looking for submarines. And what does the RS-135 do every day? Does the air defense response time record? Then who is he, an extra? It detects the codes for study and decryption. The other options are ridiculous. Otherwise, Our pilots quite calmly allowed us to approach the 12 miles from the coast, prescribed by international law. Air defense is not Gai, take the right. But the air threat prevention system hi
                1. +2
                  5 September 2020 15: 14
                  Quote: Tusv
                  It detects the codes for study and decryption.

                  Everything is clear ... you are not familiar with the order and "scheme of action" of the SRZO system bully
                  In short, now "Everything and everything" works on all WORLD and KNOWN to all frequencies - 1030/1090 MHz wink but .. "order of parcels" (the work of the defendant) has ... several hundred BILLION combinations, bully which, in addition, also vary in time intervals. wassat
                  Therefore, a "probable" enemy can at least ... before the creation of a new universe .. try something there .. "open" in system C wink SRZO.
                  Why only response time ... all frequencies, all communication and control channels, where, who and when and what includes ... the ranges ... well, etc. etc.
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Otherwise, Our pilots quite calmly allowed us to approach the 12 miles from the coast, prescribed by international law. Air defense is not Gai, take the right. But the air threat prevention system

                  and this is generally ... "at no gate ...." wassat .. So at 50-100 km you can carry out the RER, but if at 22,5 km .... is it already a threat?
                  Or maybe all the same it is already the territory of the Russian Federation?
                  1. -1
                    5 September 2020 15: 28
                    Quote: ancient
                    Everything is clear ... you are not familiar with the order and "scheme of action" of the SRZO system

                    That's where Copenhagen is not, so incompetent. Although they belonged to the artillery.
                    but .. "order of parcels" (the work of the defendant) has ... several hundred BILLION combinations,

                    And here the key is important and the Yankees are stubbornly looking for it.
                    1. 0
                      5 September 2020 15: 40
                      Quote: ancient
                      and this is generally ... "in any gate ...." wassat .. So at 50-100 km you can carry out the RER, but if at 22,5 km .... is it already a threat?

                      Exaggerating the mister interlocutor. The most important target can vary as well as the communication frequencies. According to the electronic warfare source, the first missile will be
                      1. +1
                        5 September 2020 15: 52
                        Quote: Tusv
                        Exaggerating mister interlocutor

                        I state a fact! soldier
                        Quote: Tusv
                        The most important target can vary as well as the communication frequencies.

                        Absolutely true ... but that's not what we are talking about wink
                        Quote: Tusv
                        According to the electronic warfare source, the first missile will be

                        And not only ... for all means of RTO, RTS and RES in the same way. soldier
                        1. 0
                          5 September 2020 15: 57
                          Quote: ancient
                          And not only ... for all means of RTO, RTS and RES in the same way.

                          These are ground stations, the paramilitaries do not hit them, even their own aircraft. Let us suppress the air and the Air Force personnel will fly there
                    2. +1
                      5 September 2020 15: 50
                      Quote: Tusv
                      And here the key is important and the Yankees are stubbornly looking for it.

                      The key is ... simple "numbers" ... the switch is put in the position that you have "specified" at a certain time, the switch is reset to a different position.
                      This "responder" chooses one of .. several hundred billion combinations of "burst signal" .......
                      So looking for a key .. is not even looking for a needle in a haystack, but looking for the order of "folding" a herbarium of different leaves in an autumn forest (and the leaves should be folded according to the number of veins and petals " wassat
                      Therefore, when the plane "boom" or with a large overload on the "fuck" lane or during an emergency exit or landing "at the enemy" you press the book. "Explosion", then .. "tongue" splits and many hundreds of billions fall out from there .. "stuff" .... you can try ... collect wassat wink soldier
                      1. +1
                        5 September 2020 15: 52
                        Quote: ancient
                        So looking for a key .. is not even looking for a needle in a haystack, but looking for the order of "folding" a herbarium of different leaves in an autumn forest (and the leaves should be folded according to the number of veins and petals "

                        Oh my God. They searched for Enigma, but it turns out that the herbarium was collected
                        1. +1
                          5 September 2020 16: 24
                          Quote: Tusv
                          They searched for Enigma, but it turns out that the herbarium was collected

                          Enigma, as it turned out .... easier ... since the "things" except their "oh belay rendered "quantities, still different in size (and length and thickness) wassat bully wink
                        2. +1
                          5 September 2020 16: 40
                          Quote: ancient
                          Enigma, as it turned out ... easier ...

                          And here I am not Copenhagen, you have to ask the child, he is just for these things.
                          I'm Paramilitary ONLI. I don’t see - I stupidly switch modes and "slander" on white and fluffy NATO pepelats on DCP I report
                2. 0
                  5 September 2020 18: 46
                  Poseidon was flying drones hi
          3. +4
            5 September 2020 10: 55
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            They opened the air defense system.

            Because they flapped their ears in Ukraine in '14, so mattresses fly around our underbelly like at home.
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Belarus "jumped", can S-400 and stand there.

            Surely they will. But I think, rather not the S-400, but the Antey-4000, which has a declared radius of 380 km, and which is already exported.
            1. +2
              5 September 2020 12: 02
              Quote: NEXUS
              .But I think, rather not the S-400, but the Antey-4000, which has a declared radius of 380 km, and which is already exported.

              Andrei hi The Antey-4000 is an export version of the S300B4, which is the military version of the S-400. And while Anthei 2500 is being exported
              1. +2
                5 September 2020 12: 09
                Quote: Tusv
                Andrei

                Vladimir hi
                Quote: Tusv
                Antey-4000 is an export version of С300В4

                I know. But I think that S-400s will not be delivered to Belarus, but rather Antey-4000 in the near future.
                1. +2
                  5 September 2020 12: 15
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  But I think that S-400s will not be delivered to Belarus, but rather Antey-4000 in the near future.

                  Well I do not know. The military version in the basic configuration will be more expensive
          4. 0
            5 September 2020 13: 29
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets.

            hi , Eugene.
            But IMHO this is a serious "statement" of the US and NATO. For the first time, strategic bombers appeared in the skies of the former Ukraine. And this is very dangerous because can become a permanent factor. Russia must somehow resolutely suppress this through diplomatic and military-defensive means. Our "wi-za-wi" are getting impudent every day and it is "fraught" - reminds the eve of the Second World War.
          5. 0
            5 September 2020 14: 04
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Quote: FenH
            Now we are waiting for screams about the fact that ours are again scaring their "peaceful pilots"

            They opened the air defense system. We wanted our people to "show" as much as possible, what is there in the stash. The S-400 is in stocks there, guys. And soon there will be S-500. After they "jumped" on Belarus, the S-400 can stand there too. Together with the airbase. On which fighters ... Fly, "doves of peace" ... Train our calculations. And it's boring to work out training targets ... wassat

            Very similar to the CIA operation with the South Korean Boeing 747 over Sakhalin in 1983. Then, too, the "passenger" was only a decoy for opening the air defense system. Now the adversaries have decided to use the B-52 in this role, in the hope that it will not be shot down.
          6. -1
            5 September 2020 23: 50
            Belarus...
    2. +3
      5 September 2020 08: 22
      I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?
      1. -25
        5 September 2020 08: 31
        Quote: ASAD
        I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

        Will you have enough spirit?
        1. +21
          5 September 2020 08: 36
          Quote: apro

          Will you have enough spirit?

          Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you
          1. +9
            5 September 2020 08: 42
            Quote: FenH
            Quote: apro

            Will you have enough spirit?

            Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you

            Such people in the 90s knelt down in front of the United States and took off their hats slavishly and wanted the whole of Russia to do this .. But thank God they woke up!
            Bastards will reach someday ..
          2. -30
            5 September 2020 08: 43
            Quote: FenH
            Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you

            And when did the Russian Americans knock down? And the second question is, how will you explain to the right guys later? with whom do you keep the money?
            1. +14
              5 September 2020 08: 47
              Quote: apro
              Quote: FenH
              Judging by your question, then you would not have enough. It's good that nothing depends on you

              And when did the Russian Americans shoot down?

              Last time in 1969
              Quote: apro
              And the second question is, how will you explain to the right guys later? with whom do you keep the money?

              I keep my money in a three-liter bank. And the air defense personnel are about the same. And how will you take your money from the Americans, this is of little interest to them and me
              1. -25
                5 September 2020 08: 51
                Quote: FenH
                Last time in 1969

                Do not confuse yourself with Soviet ones. It does not turn out beautifully.
                Quote: FenH
                I keep my money in a three-liter bank

                So you do not solve such questions ...
                1. +11
                  5 September 2020 09: 04
                  Quote: apro
                  Quote: FenH
                  Last time in 1969

                  Do not confuse yourself with the Soviet.

                  You do not succeed when, after the collapse of the USSR, the Americans flew into the territory of Russia and were not shot down ?.
                  Quote: FenH
                  I keep my money in a three-liter bank

                  Quote: apro
                  So you do not solve such questions ...

                  You need to read my comment carefully, I wrote to you that there is no money air defense calculation in foreign banks
                2. +14
                  5 September 2020 09: 10
                  Quote: apro
                  and then how will you explain yourself to the right guys? with whom do you keep the money?

                  So you don't solve such questions ..

                  What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                  Ask it to the right guys.
                  Will the spirit be enough?
                  1. -18
                    5 September 2020 09: 12
                    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                    Ask it to the right guys.
                    Will the spirit be enough?

                    It's easier for the Soviets. For them, the Americans are enemies.
                    1. +9
                      5 September 2020 09: 21
                      Quote: apro
                      It's easier for the Soviets. For them, the Americans are enemies.

                      Well, Russia still exists as an independent state, and not dismembered and plundered, if all the money of all Russian elites, including families, has long been "there"?
                    2. +1
                      5 September 2020 10: 29
                      Quote: apro
                      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                      Ask it to the right guys.
                      Will the spirit be enough?

                      It's easier for the Soviet. for them the Americans are enemies.

                      Especially the children and grandchildren of the GS, everyone moved to America
                      Sergey Khrushchev died June 18 at his home in Cranston, state Rhode Island.
                      1. -6
                        5 September 2020 10: 34
                        Quote: FenH
                        Quote: apro
                        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                        Ask it to the right guys.
                        Will the spirit be enough?

                        It's easier for the Soviet. for them the Americans are enemies.

                        Especially the children and grandchildren of the GS, everyone moved to America
                        Sergey Khrushchev died June 18 at his home in Cranston, state Rhode Island.

                        Ordinary Russians. And have nothing to do with the Soviet.
                        1. +5
                          5 September 2020 10: 38
                          Quote: apro
                          Quote: FenH
                          Quote: apro
                          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                          What then are you asking such a question here at VO?
                          Ask it to the right guys.
                          Will the spirit be enough?

                          It's easier for the Soviet. for them the Americans are enemies.

                          Especially the children and grandchildren of the GS, everyone moved to America
                          Sergey Khrushchev died June 18 at his home in Cranston, state Rhode Island.

                          Ordinary Russians. And to soviet have nothing to do.

                          Why did he become “usually Russian?” Whatever is Soviet, who was his dad, where did he get his education, where did he grow up?
                        2. -4
                          5 September 2020 10: 39
                          How I handed over the USSR passport ... when I betrayed ...
                        3. +3
                          5 September 2020 10: 40
                          Quote: apro
                          How I handed over the USSR passport .. when I betrayed ...

                          What kind of passport do you have now?
                        4. -1
                          5 September 2020 10: 41
                          Why are you interested in?
                        5. +1
                          5 September 2020 10: 43
                          To verify your statement, which I have highlighted
                        6. -3
                          5 September 2020 10: 53
                          Russian passport.
                        7. +3
                          5 September 2020 10: 55
                          Quote: apro
                          Russian passport.

                          Then what side are you Soviet?
                          Quote: apro
                          How I handed over the USSR passport ... when I betrayed ...
                        8. -8
                          5 September 2020 10: 59
                          It's not for you to judge.
                        9. +1
                          5 September 2020 13: 24
                          Quote: FenH
                          What kind of passport do you have now?

                          He's Israeli. Is it not clear from the show-off?
                        10. 0
                          5 September 2020 13: 31
                          Most likely from the country 404, because he also does not breathe evenly towards Israel (maybe he was refused a residence permit)

                        11. +1
                          5 September 2020 13: 34
                          The anecdote is actually harmless. I talked to him about the Israeli theme. So that he is a resident of the promised land.
                        12. +1
                          5 September 2020 13: 36
                          Quote: 30 vis
                          The anecdote is actually harmless. I talked to him about the Israeli theme. So that he is a resident of the promised land.

                          Confused, they are under the same icon on the avatar hi
                    3. +1
                      5 September 2020 18: 46
                      Quote: apro
                      It's easier for the Soviets. For them, the Americans are enemies.

                      Are they friends or masters for you? Where are you broadcasting from?
                3. +11
                  5 September 2020 09: 18
                  Quote: apro
                  Do not confuse yourself with Soviet ones. It does not turn out beautifully.

                  Russia is the only legal successor of the USSR, you have renounced your past, but we have not.
                  1. -23
                    5 September 2020 09: 20
                    Quote: figvam
                    Quote: apro
                    Do not confuse yourself with Soviet ones. It does not turn out beautifully.

                    Russia is the only legal successor of the USSR, you have renounced your past, but we have not.

                    And in fact, can you confirm this? Or for a word of mouth ...
                    1. +16
                      5 September 2020 09: 24
                      Quote: apro
                      And in fact, can you confirm this? Or for a word of mouth ...

                      What is there to confirm? Russia paid off all the financial debts of the USSR as a legal successor, all other republics remained in positive territory. Roughly speaking, 15 people took a loan, and gave one.
                      1. -20
                        5 September 2020 09: 27
                        And what about the continuity of politics, economic activity, military strategy, historical memory? I do not know that completely different states ... and if not antagonists ...
                        1. +9
                          5 September 2020 09: 34
                          Quote: apro
                          And about the continuity of politics

                          The policy of any state changes with the arrival of a new leader without changing the name of the country. The military strategy has remained the same, because the enemies are the same, the historical memory is at the same level, unlike your country.
                        2. -13
                          5 September 2020 09: 40
                          Quote: figvam
                          historical memory at the same level in contrast to your country.

                          Ie. Were the White Guards in the USSR the right guys? And the Nazi accomplice Mannerheim also had a sign? And Vilenin bonbu put it under the country, it was promoted in the USSR. And was there a frequent ownership of the means of production in the USSR?
                          Interestingly you get it ....
                        3. +5
                          5 September 2020 09: 55
                          Quote: apro
                          That is, the White Guards in the USSR were the right guys?

                          No, they were pro-Western guys like Mannerheim and we remember that.
                          Quote: apro
                          and Vilenin planted a bonbu

                          One politician criticizes another, what does continuity have to do with it?
                          Quote: apro
                          . and there was a frequent ownership of the means of production in the USSR?

                          What does private property have to do with it? There was no property in China, now there is, and that modern China is not the legal successor of the previous China?
                        4. -9
                          5 September 2020 10: 14
                          Quote: figvam
                          and we remember it

                          I can hear it on TV screens, your president is talking about it ...
                          Quote: figvam
                          One politician criticizes another, what does continuity have to do with it?

                          One politician does not criticize. And completely rejecting the legacy of another is not criticism.
                        5. +1
                          5 September 2020 11: 07
                          Quote: apro
                          I can hear it on TV screens.

                          Do not watch TV.

                          The Russian Federation - Russia, in particular, belongs to the modern successor states. As the successor of the territorial and property rights of the RSFSR, it is at the same time the successor of the Soviet Union in the framework of fulfilling obligations under the previously concluded bilateral and multilateral treaties of the USSR. In particular, Russia became a permanent member of the UN Security Council, the owner of all Soviet weapons of mass destruction, all the property and debts of the USSR abroad.

                          The Russian Federation continues to exercise the rights and fulfill the obligations arising from the international treaties concluded by the USSR, and the government of the Russian Federation will perform, instead of the government of the USSR, the functions of the depositary under the relevant international treaties.
                          - Note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, dated January 13, 1992
                        6. -2
                          5 September 2020 09: 57
                          [quote = apro]
                          That is, were the White Guards in the USSR the right guys? [/ Quote]
                          They were officers of Russia who remained true to their oath and there was a civil war, where brother went against brother. And the reason for this is the revolution
                          [/ quote] and Nazi accomplice Mannerheim also had a sign? / quote]
                          Mannerheim was a Russian officer who fought against Germany in World War I. He became an accomplice of the Nazis when Lenin began the collapse of the Russian Empire and released Finland
                          [/ quote] and VILENIN Bonbu planted it under the country, it was promoted in the USSR / quote]
                          Yes!
                          [/ quote] and there was private ownership of the means of production in the USSR? [/ quote]
                          The days of NEP in school did not pass. The same 90s, adjusted for the time. It's good that Stalin strangled it.
                          [/ quote] I wonder if you get it .... [/ quote]
                          History is generally an interesting subject
                  2. 0
                    5 September 2020 13: 31
                    Quote: figvam
                    Russia is the only legal successor of the USSR

                    So the USSR - this was "Russia".
                4. 0
                  5 September 2020 11: 25
                  Quote: apro
                  how will you later

                  Quote: apro
                  not beautifully obtained.

                  In the word "shower" they make three mistakes, but all the same ... fellow laughing
                  1. 0
                    5 September 2020 11: 36
                    Quote: Paranoid50
                    Quote: apro
                    how will you later

                    Quote: apro
                    not beautifully obtained.

                    In the word "shower" they make three mistakes, but all the same ... fellow laughing

                    A person has an extremely negative attitude towards Russians, so you can forgive for mistakes, he is not his own hi
              2. +1
                5 September 2020 10: 09
                Quote: FenH
                Last time in 1969

                On 24 August 1976, a pair of F-100 "Super Saber" fighter-bombers of the Turkish Air Force invaded Soviet airspace. One of them was shot down by a Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.
                1. +1
                  5 September 2020 10: 13
                  Quote: Adam Khomich
                  Quote: FenH
                  Last time in 1969

                  On 24 August 1976, a pair of F-100 "Super Saber" fighter-bombers of the Turkish Air Force invaded Soviet airspace. One of them was shot down by a Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.

                  so they asked about the Americans, and not about NATO, so our air defense systems distinguished themselves in many places and cleaned the sky wink
                  1. -1
                    5 September 2020 10: 20
                    Quote: FenH
                    so they asked about the Americans

                    It is not known who was "driving" :-)
              3. -1
                5 September 2020 10: 23
                I keep my money in a three-liter bank, and the air defense personnel are about the same.

                In a three-liter? This is good, you and the "air defense personnel" are oligarchs by Russian standards. I only have 800 milliliters. :)
                But the general of the air defense, or rather his elderly parents or schoolchildren, may have money in a foreign bank, next to a villa on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico.
                1. +1
                  5 September 2020 10: 25
                  Quote: Peter is not the first
                  I keep my money in a three-liter bank, and the air defense personnel are about the same.

                  In a three-liter? This is good, you and the "air defense personnel" are oligarchs by Russian standards. I only have 800 milliliters. :)
                  But the air defense general
                  , or rather, his elderly parents or schoolchildren, money can lie in a foreign bank, next to a villa on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico.

                  It's good that the calculations are not from the generals wink
                  1. -1
                    5 September 2020 10: 28
                    But without an order, air defense calculations will only be monitored. This has already taken place in the USSR with Matias Rust.
                    1. 0
                      5 September 2020 10: 31
                      Quote: Peter is not the first
                      But without an order, air defense calculations will only be monitored. This has already taken place in the USSR with Matias Rust.

                      No one will track these, they will begin to extinguish them 20 kilometers from the state border.
            2. +1
              5 September 2020 10: 05
              Quote: apro
              And when did the Russian Americans shoot down?

              https://aif.ru/society/history/vozdushnaya_voyna_kak_sssr_unichtozhal_samolety_nato
        2. +2
          5 September 2020 08: 48
          what does the spirit have to do with it? are you normal strategists carrying nuclear weapons cross the state border. this is generally a declaration of war can be considered. and not just shot down.
          1. -1
            5 September 2020 10: 52
            Duc like B-1 recently violated the border in the east and no one declared war.
            1. 0
              5 September 2020 11: 38
              what? I don’t remember that. with regard to war, there is a clear plan of action for these cases. pilots can describe in more detail here.
        3. +8
          5 September 2020 09: 04
          Quote: apro
          Will you have enough spirit?

          The spirit will not be enough to fly in)))
          1. -14
            5 September 2020 09: 23
            Quote: figvam
            The spirit will not be enough to fly in)))

            So they flew in ... Americans from Russia are still raking out material values.
            1. +5
              5 September 2020 09: 40
              Quote: apro
              material values ​​are still being razed from Russia.

              Valuables are shoveled from the outskirts, not from Russia.
              1. -9
                5 September 2020 09: 41
                Quote: figvam
                Valuables are shoveled from the outskirts, not from Russia.

                Take an interest in the export of capital from Russia ..
                1. +5
                  5 September 2020 09: 57
                  Quote: apro
                  Take an interest in the export of capital from Russia ..

                  Capital has always been exported and imported, this is how it works.
                  1. -6
                    5 September 2020 10: 16
                    Quote: figvam
                    Capital has always been exported and imported, this is how it works.

                    This is how the colonial economy works ...
                    1. +1
                      5 September 2020 10: 51
                      Quote: apro
                      This is how the colonial economy works ...

                      Colonial works like this)))

              2. -1
                5 September 2020 10: 08
                What kind of values ​​are they scooped up?
                Sunflower seeds? No matter how others are seen ...
                1. +2
                  5 September 2020 10: 37
                  Quote: Avior
                  What kind of values ​​are they scooped up?

                  And people are not raked out to work for the new Reich?
                  Aren't they selling fertile lands?
                  And the money is not taken out? Or has the outskirts become rich in the last 6 years?
                  1. -3
                    5 September 2020 11: 43
                    Are they taking out the land?
                    Are people being shoveled out?
                    You don't confuse anything for 80 years like this?
                    Are Ukrainian hryvnias exported? Is that value too? smile
                    What are you talking about?
                    And about getting rich, of course not.
                    But salaries are still growing.
                    https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/ukraina/
                    1. +1
                      5 September 2020 13: 31
                      Quote: Avior
                      But salaries are still growing.

                      Yeah, they are growing, only the standard of living is falling. laughing laughing
                      1. 0
                        5 September 2020 14: 53
                        Yeah, real incomes are going up, but the level is going down. Sure.
                        You are telling this situation five years ago.
                        Let’s still how the communal apartment is growing, there is just in the next branch.
                        1. +1
                          6 September 2020 14: 24
                          Quote: Avior
                          You are telling this situation five years ago

                          ... I live in Ukraine, and I don't need to "blow in my ears". I see and feel the situation from the inside, and as they say on my own skin. Since the fall, gas prices have increased by no less than 40%. At 40 Karl. So, a trifle. For the third month, the deputies in the parliament have been arguing whether to raise pensions by 230 grams, this is a lot or a little. And so wherever you go. This is only in the material presentation, but about the "moral and spiritual", I generally keep quiet. Tin. Where did you get the information that "everything is fine" in Ukraine, I don't know. Probably from official Ukrainian sources. But if you believe them, then Ukraine has long been living in paradise. But in paradise, as you know, Adam and Eve lived naked under a bush. So here the analogy with Ukraine is appropriate. And the fact that Ukraine is officially recognized as the poorest country in Europe, you probably have not heard.
                        2. 0
                          6 September 2020 14: 46
                          you seem to have written that you left Ukraine. returned or what?
                          As for gas, there is a floating price in Ukraine, but even after this rise in price, gas will be twice as cheap as five years ago. And the salary during this time has tripled, which is the average, which is the minimum. Why did your level drop personally, I don't know - well, it happens.
                          and I did not write that everything is fine in Ukraine and that there is paradise.
                        3. +1
                          6 September 2020 15: 12
                          Quote: Avior
                          you seem to have written that you left Ukraine. returned or what?

                          First, he never wrote that he was leaving. I'll leave, that's for sure, I hope that not in the distant future, but as soon as possible. And secondly, once again. I don’t understand where you got this information regarding utility tariffs. There was no such thing that something would become cheaper in Ukraine (deputies and ministers with oligarchs will hang themselves). In a country that flies into the abyss and which lives on the principle of "everything for sale", prices for the population can only rise. This overseas buyers can make a discount on land, or still working infrastructure. From the population, you need to squeeze everything out. And then the population for sale. To Poland, or somewhere else that is already flourishing in full swing, under the guise of "visa-free" (for which it was allowed). I am generally silent about child trafficking, surrogacy is on the way. Sometimes I think for a long time what good has been done in "independent" Ukraine (especially over the past six years), and I do not find a single positive example. Absolutely. If there is still something good left, then this is a part of people who are adequate, but there are few of them, and every year, less and less.
                          And the salary during this time has tripled, which is the average, which is the minimum
                          And the dollar went up by three, and prices accordingly. And they crawl higher, and are not going to stop. And about three times the salary is not needed. Fell in two. Not minimal, but real, in terms of purchasing power.
                        4. 0
                          6 September 2020 15: 23
                          uh huh. 21st century in the yard, tariffs are not a problem
                          Gas tariffs for the population
                          with 1.04.2015 on 30.04.2016

                          https://index.minfin.com.ua/tariff/gas/2015-04-01/
                          There was no such thing that something would be cheaper in Ukraine

                          smile
                        5. +1
                          6 September 2020 15: 53
                          What are you poking at me with officialdom. I pay for gas not according to "official" information from the Internet, but according to the payments I receive. It has never happened that the numbers in the accounts decreased, only increased. In Ukraine, it does not matter whether the price of gas falls or increases, in any case, the population will always pay more. This is the local law of the universe. If the population pays less, then someone at the top will not count billions, but in Ukraine, corruption is all right, do not worry, they will not let go of theirs. In addition, the IMF, which has Ukraine, has long been in slavery for debts, requires a constant increase in prices for housing and communal services. Although I'm lying, there were a couple of months last year, in the summer, when, indeed, payments came with amounts slightly less than usual. I was very surprised then.
                        6. +1
                          6 September 2020 22: 10
                          In addition to the price, the amount of gas consumed is also included in the payment.
                          If you consume more, pay more.
                          A common practice everywhere.
                          If consumed as usual, recalculate.
      2. 0
        5 September 2020 08: 40
        Quote: ASAD
        I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

        "NATO supported Turkey's version of the bomber's violation of Turkish airspace [20]. According to the BBC, from the data provided by the Turkish side, it follows that the shot down the plane was in Turkish airspace for about six seconds[thirteen]. In an interview with NBC News and Reuters, representatives of the US Department of Defense, on condition of anonymity, said that, according to their information, the plane was attacked 13-2 seconds after entering Turkish airspace [3] and shot down by a Turkish missile over Syrian territory. [28] "

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D1%83-24_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B8
      3. -5
        5 September 2020 08: 45
        Quote: ASAD
        I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

        Erdogan knocked down the Russian attack aircraft as soon as the shadow from the wing accidentally touched the border post.
        But that is a single attack aircraft, and these are two triples of strategists ...
      4. +2
        5 September 2020 09: 34
        Quote: ASAD
        I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

        ========
        As far as I know - immediately after crossing the state border (airspace) line, if he does not react on warnings about approaching the border and entering foreign airspace and at the same time continues to fly deep into the territory... Like so! hi
      5. +1
        5 September 2020 10: 02
        Quote: ASAD
        I wonder how many kilometers the enemy must fly in order to shoot him down according to the rules?

        According to the old rules and it seems that they have not been canceled - we have every right to destroy 20 km to the border of a potential carrier of nuclear weapons. Other people are offered a choice: Lubricate the heels, get full board at the airfield Guba, go to a better world, if the Lord is near
        1. -3
          5 September 2020 10: 26
          Quote: Tusv
          We have every right to destroy 20 km to the border of a potential carrier of nuclear weapons.

          Stop carrying heresy!
          1. +2
            5 September 2020 10: 32
            Quote: Bez 310
            Stop carrying heresy!

            The B-61 is by no means heresy, and now it is 70 km of planning. In our time, only 20 and believe me, the readiness to destroy the carrier 20 km from the border was not heretical hi
            1. -3
              5 September 2020 10: 42
              Willingness to work on the offender, and the right to destroy -
              two big differences. Don't fool our brains!
              1. +1
                5 September 2020 10: 48
                Did you also serve in the air defense guards on the border? So we had such a right. Another thing Sushki did not allow anyone closer than 70 km. And yes, the flyers have this rule. As before, they "unprofessionally" drive away any abomination from the border at this line. Although the bourgeois has the right, international space. So we put a very decent bolt on the international space
                1. 0
                  5 September 2020 11: 53
                  It seems to me that you are delusional ...
                  1. 0
                    5 September 2020 12: 08
                    But it seems to me that you are not a Paramilitary, since you do not know the rules of air defense
      6. +1
        5 September 2020 10: 44
        Shoot down by the rules laughing - by the rules of boxing or M1?
    3. -12
      5 September 2020 08: 23
      Well, what can we say about this ... the aviation of the CIS in the post-Soviet space, especially over the country. Of the so-called Russian world, is a great success of Russian politics.
      This is not a military threat, but a civilizational failure of Russia.
      1. -8
        5 September 2020 08: 27
        There was no time to engage in politics, money and assets were taken away and hidden from the people, this is the result.
        1. +3
          5 September 2020 08: 39
          Quote: Pessimist22
          here is the result.

          This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew
          1. -15
            5 September 2020 08: 45
            Quote: FenH
            This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew

            Do not breed redness ... pzhlsta. Today the government is quite civilized. With common human values. They themselves must build a new Russia ...
            1. +5
              5 September 2020 08: 52
              Quote: apro
              Quote: FenH
              This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew

              Do not breed redness ... pzhlsta. Today the government is quite civilized. With common human values. to build a new Russia...

              It is immediately clear that you have never built anything in your life. Any construction requires a foundation, in a specific case it is the history of the country. On what foundation are you going to build a "new Russia", if you even write your homeland with a small letter?
              1. -12
                5 September 2020 08: 57
                Quote: FenH
                On what foundation are you going to build "new Russia"

                The old USSR suits me ...
                1. +6
                  5 September 2020 08: 59
                  Quote: apro
                  Quote: FenH
                  On what foundation are you going to build "new Russia"

                  The old USSR suits me ...

                  And at this stage of history, no, why does Russia now need the dying out tribalts, Georgia?
                  1. -12
                    5 September 2020 09: 03
                    Quote: FenH
                    Why does Russia now need the dying out tribalts, Georgia?

                    So the Russians are not particularly needed ... especially those who did not fit into the market.
                    1. +3
                      5 September 2020 09: 07
                      Quote: apro
                      Quote: FenH
                      Why does Russia now need the dying out tribalts, Georgia?

                      So the Russians are not particularly needed ... especially those who did not fit into the market.

                      Who doesn't need Russians, Russia?
                      1. -11
                        5 September 2020 09: 09
                        Quote: FenH
                        Who doesn't need Russians, Russia?

                        As you guessed ...
                        1. +5
                          5 September 2020 09: 12
                          Quote: apro
                          Quote: FenH
                          Who doesn't need Russians, Russia?

                          As you guessed ...

                          I will not comment on your nonsense
            2. +1
              5 September 2020 11: 03
              Quote: apro
              Do not breed redness ... pzhlsta. Today the power is quite civilized. With universal values.

              Can you list the basic "universal" values ​​that you are talking about and which were not in the Union? Only without water and fussing "pzhalsta"!
              1. -6
                5 September 2020 11: 06
                Grandmothers decide everything.
                1. 0
                  5 September 2020 15: 13
                  Quote: apro
                  Grandmothers decide everything.

                  I thought so! You swim fine! hi
                  1. 0
                    5 September 2020 15: 37
                    Quote: businessv
                    Quote: apro
                    Grandmothers decide everything.

                    I thought so! You swim fine! hi

                    And what's wrong? A capitalistic country of the 3rd world. What can it offer its population?
                    1. 0
                      5 September 2020 19: 55
                      Quote: apro
                      And what's wrong? A capitalistic country of the 3rd world. What can it offer its population?

                      What country are you talking about? The feeling that you are still in school and, judging by the comments, are not very good at it. Russia owns the largest territories and resources in the world, hence all the fuss. But to you, I think, this does not mean anything. Post nonsense regularly. hi
          2. -1
            5 September 2020 08: 51
            Quote: FenH
            Quote: Pessimist22
            here is the result.

            This is the result of Khrushch’s amnesty. On the shit that he released, it grew

            It all started with Khrushch .. He took revenge on Stalin for his humiliation of the bastard It was not for nothing that Mao called him a colobarismist
            1. -1
              5 September 2020 08: 57
              I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?
              1. -9
                5 September 2020 09: 02
                Quote: Pessimist22
                I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?

                Pessimist. I have not heard that the IVS Stalin in the 30th year of Soviet power blamed the tsarist regime for something. They solved their problems themselves ...
                1. +2
                  5 September 2020 09: 27
                  Quote: apro
                  I have not heard that the IVS Stalin in the 30th year of Soviet power blamed the tsarist regime for something. They solved their problems themselves ...

                  But this is a very good remark .. It was YOURSELF who decided the empire on its side, there was a complete blockade !!! Complete devastation after the civil war .. And from these wreckages the USSR was assembled! Here, organizational genius is needed, etc.
                  That Stalin showed, well, not by democratic methods of course))))) But he left the country as a world power, social and technological developed .. Until now, we hold on to this steel foundation ..
              2. +1
                5 September 2020 09: 10
                Quote: Pessimist22
                I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?

                The logic is simple, that in Ukraine the descendants of the nationalists released by Khrushchev are in power, you will find photographs of the "veterans" of una-unso yourself, just for how they were equated with the veterans of the Great Patriotic War
              3. +2
                5 September 2020 09: 17
                Quote: Pessimist22
                I cannot understand the logic, Khrushchev was GS from 56 to 64, but it is to blame that Yankees strategists fly over Ukraine, can you briefly explain?

                BRIEFLY Bandera released and gave the Crimea (exactly gave) to Ukraine !!!!!
                Here is the result !!!! And this is also

                This is how things are going .. I hope you understand me hi
      2. 0
        5 September 2020 11: 10
        Quote: apro
        This is not a military threat, but a civilizational failure of Russia.

        Did you realize that you had sprinkled it? In your opinion, Russia has a separate civilizational path from the rest of the world, obviously extraterrestrial ?! Cool! Have a psychologist had a long time? laughing
        1. -6
          5 September 2020 11: 17
          Quote: businessv
          In your opinion, Russia is separate from the rest of the world,

          Each formation in a certain territory has its own path, its own methods, its own goal of expansion, otherwise extinction and disappearance from the map of history as a priest.
    4. +6
      5 September 2020 08: 37
      The flights of a group of American strategic bombers B-52H in the airspace of Ukraine near Crimea have demonstrated the ability to contain Russia. This is stated in the statement of the US Air Force Command in Europe.


      No, this is a direct threat ...
      1. +2
        5 September 2020 08: 50
        No, this is a direct threat ...

        Come on ... they were showing off and quickly dumped to sit out, out of harm's way ...
        as part of the temporary transfer of six B-52H strategic bombers to the UK
        1. +3
          5 September 2020 08: 52
          Here they showed off, and there, in the Pentagon, they poured cold sweat on, perfectly understanding how such games could end ...
          1. +1
            5 September 2020 11: 47
            And there will be something to put pressure on the generals when the politicians decide / go crazy.
            1. +2
              5 September 2020 12: 01
              I hope they understand what the consequences might be ...
              1. +1
                5 September 2020 12: 26
                The hope for a sense of self-preservation is the last frontier .... however, maybe we DON'T KNOW something ???
                1. +2
                  5 September 2020 12: 30
                  Quote: rocket757
                  however, maybe we DO NOT KNOW something ???


                  I thought about it, but it seems to me that this new generation does not know something, living in the virtual world and when they come to power, then everything can be ...
                  1. +1
                    5 September 2020 13: 10
                    I don’t want to guess, there is not enough information to make reasonable conclusions.
                    1. +2
                      5 September 2020 13: 27
                      Not guessing is not a rewarding business, it just remains to wait a little ...
                      1. +1
                        5 September 2020 13: 49
                        This event, such a dumb br r r! If I can't wait, I WILL NOT BE upset!
      2. +1
        5 September 2020 08: 54
        Quote: cniza
        No, this is a direct threat ...

        That's right, Victor! And these things obviously do not fly with empty bombs .. So far you have to hooligan around them, but your nerves are at the limit ..
    5. 0
      5 September 2020 08: 49
      The Americans lie about "forward-based B-52 aircraft and crews contribute to collective security and provide the United States, NATO allies and partners with the ability to contain Russia." the Americans simply taught the crews to quickly change diapers, when the Russian avihuligans approached at flashes and dryings))) The role of hooligans in the exercises was performed by Ukrainian fighters))) And the reconnaissance planes watched so that the Ukrainians, due to inexperience, did not scare the amers to death)))
    6. +2
      5 September 2020 08: 50
      Eight Russian fighters climbed to intercept 3 US strategic bombers over the Black Sea
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 11: 01
        Only now they did not fly not over the Black Sea, but near the Azov.
    7. +3
      5 September 2020 08: 51
      Opportunity to contain Russia ": the US commented on B-52H flights over Ukraine

      T-160 in the skies of Venezuela solely for the sake of the possibility of containing Colombia. Sounds silly? Stupid. And American sounds the same ..
    8. -1
      5 September 2020 08: 52
      Someone's only one cause .... "concern". There are many more "egg-pods" over the hill.
    9. C-X
      +3
      5 September 2020 08: 56
      Some of the Soviet aces shot down 2 American planes - possibly Pokryshkin
      1. +2
        5 September 2020 09: 10
        Quote: C-X
        Some of the Soviet aces shot down 2 American planes - possibly Pokryshkin

        hi Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub shot down a couple of presumptuous "Mustangs" in 1945, in the sky of Germany!
        And also in the skies of Korea?
      2. Cat
        0
        5 September 2020 09: 35
        They shot down a lot and without sentimentality.
        You can see it here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_with_the_of_foreign_aviation_about_the_USSR_(1946-1991)
    10. 0
      5 September 2020 09: 01
      Keeping Russia close to its borders is great.
    11. +3
      5 September 2020 09: 01
      Eh, I heard this high-altitude hum of heavy jet aircraft (extremely rare now, after the "Malaysian" July 2014, in the Ukrainian sky), I was also very surprised at this event, I even wanted to look out on the street and see who the difficult one is carrying there ?! smile
      But I was too lazy to see what kind of "aircraft" were there (after all, the round dances of all kinds of transport and passenger Boeings, Airbuses and military "S-17" overhead I had seen enough over my head until the summer of 2014) - I did not know that these were "rare" -52 flew, I would prepare binoculars for such an occasion ... winked
    12. Cat
      -1
      5 September 2020 09: 30
      What is the fuss about? Three ancient bombers flew from Britain to Ukraine? So even 70 years ago, B-17 flew near Poltava. Local slaves licked them under the tail? So it was not a surprise for anyone, it was good (for them) at least they did not crash.
      I think that the purpose of this raid was not so much to identify new air defense systems in the Crimea and Donbass region, but to frown towards Turkey.
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 10: 10
        Bombers and ours are quite ancient. Only now the weapon is not ancient. And now, not like during the Second World War, it is not necessary to fly into the enemy's territory. I flew up to my border, under the cover of my air defense, launched cruise missiles and all the rules.
        1. Cat
          +1
          5 September 2020 16: 00
          I flew up to my border, under the cover of my air defense, launched cruise missiles and all the rules.

          laughing
          If you can let the CD from your territory, then why load them on bombers? The carriers are used for this in order to minimize the flight time of the RC, even to the detriment of surprise. Well, and pull the nerves of the enemy in peacetime, where without it.
      2. +1
        5 September 2020 10: 54
        Quote: Gato
        I think that the purpose of this raid was not so much to identify new air defense systems in the Crimea and Donbass region, but to frown towards Turkey.

        IMHO, judging by the amount of intelligence of all types, the goal was precisely to identify the cumulative actions of our military.
    13. +2
      5 September 2020 09: 33
      Someone expected that minke whales would be there to observe something ??? do not strain, do not provoke?
      Empty hopes.
      1. +2
        5 September 2020 12: 03
        The bad thing is elsewhere, in Ukraine they do what they want ...
        1. +1
          5 September 2020 13: 05
          Normally, this area is now a GOAL!
          For those who can still think, this must be clearly and specifically designated !!! The games are over.
          1. +2
            5 September 2020 13: 24
            This target with its nuclear power plants and our close presence is dangerous for us too ...
            1. +1
              5 September 2020 13: 38
              At a critical moment, there will be no time ... either to lose EVERYTHING, or to smash the enemy wherever necessary!
              1. +2
                5 September 2020 16: 12
                Hope this moment never comes ...
                1. +1
                  5 September 2020 16: 41
                  About that and speech. There is no need to move from theoretical inventions to a practical plane.
                  1. +3
                    5 September 2020 17: 10
                    There are too many people around who want to hurt people and make money on it ...
                    1. +1
                      5 September 2020 18: 49
                      There, and one Hollywood is enough for everyone!
          2. -1
            5 September 2020 14: 09
            Quote: rocket757
            this territory is now PURPOSE!

            Well, tell me plainly - what territory, why is it NOW the goal, for whom?
            Why are you carrying some kind of blizzard?
            1. 0
              5 September 2020 14: 37
              They turned to the wrong specialist, you are further down the corridor.
    14. +3
      5 September 2020 09: 37
      The Americans clank with their rusty bits, rivets fall off the B-52, after all, this junk is more than half a century old. They were destroyed back in 1965 in Vietnam in batches, and now the 21st century is in the yard, and the modern air defense of Russia differs from what it was in 1965 as a Laser blaster from a flint gun.
      The USSR collapsed due to the mossiness of the Governing Party, in the current USA it is still more monstrous.
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 11: 43
        The airplane is in two basic states - airworthy, and not airworthy!
        The bomber is SUMMER GOOD, it can fire a rocket, consider it UP!
        Everything, nothing else matters! Yes, he was here, he outlined a goal already at the place, by the fact of his presence!
        What other reasons are needed to send OUR bombers to the position of effective missile launch?
        This is not WAR yet, but this is a clear targeting!
        1. -1
          5 September 2020 11: 59
          Quote: rocket757
          he was here, he outlined a goal already in place, in fact!

          How's that?
          Please explain what the conversation is about?
          1. +1
            5 September 2020 12: 24
            The aircraft enters the position, the flight program is adjusted according to the real location, the start button is pressed ... that's it, it starts.
            1. -1
              5 September 2020 12: 27
              VONONOCHE ...
              And who "rushed", and where?
              1. +1
                5 September 2020 13: 06
                Yes, who where, we are in our paradise, and the rest ...
                1. -1
                  5 September 2020 14: 03
                  I see, just rave ...
                  1. +2
                    5 September 2020 14: 34
                    What is the client, this form of communication. Receive, sign.
    15. +1
      5 September 2020 09: 39
      do they really think that it is safe to fly over Svidomo wassat
    16. +3
      5 September 2020 09: 53
      I'm starting to respect Khrushchev. He could knock on the podium with a slipper, he could provoke a missile crisis, he was considered a fool in the West. But they also feared him. They were afraid that they might commit an act, might use nuclear weapons. Now our leaders are neither afraid nor respected. On a good note, at the moment of crossing the Ukrainian border by a direct wire, warn that in half an hour the planes will be shot down and shot down if they do not leave. Otherwise, this policy of "toad jumping" by the United States will lead us to a national catastrophe such as "41 years". Today they fly with transponders, tomorrow without transponders, and the day after tomorrow with cruise missiles on board. I remember we openly stated that after the missile defense system was put on alert in Romania, we would destroy them with Iskander. So what? The missiles are already on alert, and we just stopped writing about it. We were counted long ago, all our reactions were counted, and they are slowly suffocating.
      1. +1
        5 September 2020 11: 45
        Quote: Jurkovs
        But they also feared him. They were afraid that they might commit an act, might use nuclear weapons.

        And I would use it !!! And no one would dare to pull him by the sleeve !!!
        And what about US with this NOW ???
        1. +2
          5 September 2020 12: 07
          Now it's hard to talk about it, I think that Khrushchev could have given a command, but whether they had fulfilled it or not, there could have been many conditions ...
          1. +1
            5 September 2020 13: 08
            We will not guess .... b would fly back, there is no doubt about that.
            1. +2
              5 September 2020 13: 26
              There is no doubt about the answer, but in other cases ...
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    18. +2
      5 September 2020 10: 06
      After that, unambiguously, in our military doctrine, it is necessary to consider Ukraine as a potential enemy.
      1. +2
        5 September 2020 10: 55
        So Ukraine has been fighting against us for a long time - haven't you heard
    19. +1
      5 September 2020 10: 08
      Oops, but the predictions come true. In reality, in 202 the world will be finally ready for a new world one. Opposing alliances of countries will be created, the world economy will be transformed into an isolated economy of these alliances. Actually, what we see now with Chinese high-tech and telecommunications. And we have complete import substitution and food security. It is clear that international regulators like the UN and WHO are either sent into the distant erotic or are simply ignored.
    20. +1
      5 September 2020 10: 10
      UV author, there is no Melitopol region in Ukraine, correct
    21. -4
      5 September 2020 10: 27
      Why are you so frightened of ancient bomb carriers coming with the included transponder and carrying imitators ?!
    22. 0
      5 September 2020 10: 34
      And to think what will happen if you try to "contain" your mind is not enough? It will not be possible to sit out overseas, as in the previous two wars. And the bunkers won't save.
    23. +1
      5 September 2020 10: 49
      The flights of a group of American strategic bombers B-52H in the airspace of Ukraine near Crimea have demonstrated the ability to contain Russia.
      As always, minke whales confuse everything. This gives Russia the opportunity to confirm what it constantly asserts: the United States is an aggressor using every opportunity to unleash a war for resources in the territories of foreign countries. Particularly attractive are countries that are as far as possible from the aggressor in the event of the use of nuclear weapons, rich in resources and surrounded by countries that are minions of minke whales, controlled by them and ready to fight to the last citizen. Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Georgia are ideal for this role and even themselves are asking for the role of a battering ram, although their puppet leadership is well aware that their countries are threatened with destruction, but the contract has been signed, the money has been received and it is necessary to follow the instructions of the Washington regional committee and hope that they - then, successful blowjobs, will have time to escape when the real mess begins.
    24. +2
      5 September 2020 11: 00
      Ukrainians won't knock them down with their Buks
      that would be cool
    25. 0
      5 September 2020 11: 39
      Already nuclear missile carriers drove the horror of ishe and intelligence is flying something they are planning 100% it is necessary for our strategists to fly on the border of the USA!
      1. +9
        5 September 2020 16: 01
        Quote: opuonmed
        it is necessary for our strategists to fly on the border of the united states!

        So ours fly there ...
    26. 0
      5 September 2020 13: 22
      And that a new region has appeared in Ukraine? There is Zaporizhzhya, but no Melitopol.
      But that is.
      I just like the great geostrateg. In 2013, no one, even in a nightmare, could see American strategists over the territory of Ukraine in the immediate vicinity of the borders of Russia.
      At the moment, this is already a reality. Three strategists on alert in the air are 36 ELCMs with a launch range of up to 2700 km! How many are there to large industrial centers from ganitsa then? What is the reaction time to a threat?
      The awful mnogohodovochka came out. -900 km of operational depth and a blood enemy along the entire southwestern border!
    27. 0
      5 September 2020 13: 39
      Melitopol regions
      They would also write the Berdichev region, or the Konotop region. laughing
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 17: 06
        And soon it will be so! Districts in regions are already being redrawn, and it will come to regions. Administrative-territorial (demon) redistribution.
        1. 0
          6 September 2020 14: 12
          You may be right. Living in Ukraine, I am not surprised at anything. If some kind of stupidity is possible in the world, then it will undoubtedly be implemented on the territory of Ukraine.
    28. 0
      5 September 2020 15: 01
      The task of the American military contingent in Europe is to involve the nuclear powers in the conflict in order to destroy the Eurasian continent.
      1. +9
        5 September 2020 16: 00
        Quote: Vladimir NN
        The task of the American military contingent in Europe is

        marking the borders of the US colonies. No one in the world will go to a nuclear war. There are no suicides.
    29. 0
      5 September 2020 16: 10
      What the hell is the Melitopol region? The author studied at the Higher School of Economics or what? Zaporozhye region Melitopol district.
      1. 0
        5 September 2020 17: 12
        "According to Western aviation sources ..." All questions on new areas to enty sources.
    30. +2
      5 September 2020 19: 55
      Quote: Jurkovs
      I'm starting to respect Khrushchev. He could knock on the podium with a slipper, could have provoked a missile crisis,

      Respect for the fact that, because of his own conceit, he almost put the country on the brink of a thermonuclear war, which we would have lost with a 100% guarantee? Oh well

      Quote: Alex_You
      Duc like B-1 recently violated the border in the east and no one declared war.

      In the Sea of ​​Okhotsk? Didn't break it. We flew in neutral waters ..
    31. IC
      0
      6 September 2020 00: 02
      The situation in Ukraine has changed long ago. Thanks to Russia's policy towards Ukraine in recent years, public opinion there has changed. Now, for many in Ukraine, the entry of ships of the United States and other NATO countries into the Black Sea, flights of military aircraft and joint exercises, arouses a sense of pride and approval in many people. They view these events as involvement with the leading world powers. Although from the outside it looks somewhat comical.
      Until 2014, this was not possible.
    32. 0
      9 September 2020 15: 32
      Melitopol region?)))) Author needs to present a globe of Banderland))) so that he knows that there is such a regional center - Zaporozhye, in the Melitopol region. And so, yes - a complete loss of sovereignty. Banderland is not a country, but a territory where everyone who wants to do their dirty deeds.
    33. 0
      19 September 2020 14: 57
      It is time to conduct a Aerospace Forces exercise to suppress the military infrastructure of Ukraine with the involvement of strategic aviation, so that not a single harem pants remain empty.

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