Candidate for the post of head of the CDU in Germany: It is necessary to impose a moratorium on the construction of "SP-2"

The strange rhetoric of German politicians continues around the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. At the same time, all statements have recently been linked to the situation around the deteriorating health of Alexei Navalny.

Today, a statement on the fate of the SP-2 gas pipeline was made by Friedrich Merz, who is a representative of the CDU - Christian Democratic Union. He is aiming at the leaders of this party (ruling).

At the suggestion of Friedrich Merz, “it is necessary to freeze the construction of Nord Stream 2 for a two-year period.
Merz:

I propose to impose a moratorium on the construction of the SP-2 for a period of two years. The construction of the gas pipeline must be boycotted due to the fact that the Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was poisoned with military substance. You need to take a tough stance towards Moscow and demand an investigation and clarification of the situation.

According to Merz, he previously advocated the construction of a gas pipeline, but now, he claims, he was influenced by the "poisoning of Navalny."

Mr Merz:

The countries of Europe must react. This cannot be left unanswered.

Earlier in the German press there were regular publications in which it was stated about "additional facts of the detection of traces of poison in Navalny's body." Until now, Berlin has not provided any documentary evidence, without responding to a request from the Russian Prosecutor General's Office.

Against this background, it can be assumed that German politicians today decided to take part in a kind of "bride" before the United States: the more obvious the anti-Russian position is presented, the more they expect to please Washington and enlist its support.

It also became known that Belarus decided to publish a recording of a conversation between representatives of Germany and Poland, from which it becomes clear that the statements about Navalny's poisoning are falsifications.

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[Trapp1st]

that German politicians today decided to take part in a kind of "bride" in front of the United States

Does Germany end up with Merkel's departure? Or is there someone who is adequate? Is there anyone from Germany?

[RUnnm]

Do not hurry. Judging by the growth of ADGs in the Landstags and the rumbling of the ruling coalition with the choice of a successor to Merkel, the CDU / CSU / SPD will not live long.

[seregatara1969]

Winter is coming soon and gas will be back in price

[culinary]

Quote: seregatara1969

Winter is coming soon and gas will be back in price

Is not a fact. Last winter was warm. There is enough gas left. For this season, even the Ukrainians have pumped up to the eyeballs. It's not gonna go. It is necessary to look 3-4 years ahead. For us (users of the information space) this is unrealistic, but for analysts with more information, this is a daily job.
The foam will settle, and a long-term solution will cover the market, like the decade-old transit decision covered the Baltics. Although I suspect, from my gopher hill, This decision is twenty years old, no less.

[spectr]

Throwing, IMHO, is the most dangerous period. Decisions made during this period may depend on the phase of the moon.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Trapp1st

Does Germany end up with Merkel's departure? Or is there someone who is adequate? Is there anyone from Germany?

That's what elections are for, so as not to put objective rulers. And in general, after May 9, 1945, Germany did not start, there is only the occupied territory of the Third Reich.

[Husit]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Trapp1st

Does Germany end up with Merkel's departure? Or is there someone who is adequate? Is there anyone from Germany?

That's what elections are for, so as not to put objective rulers. And in general, after May 9, 1945, Germany did not start, there is only the occupied territory of the Third Reich.

For a long time this thought Vlad wanders .. The same is in Japan!
The USA and Israel are afraid to let Germany out of their tenacious paws and they are not in vain afraid!
You look at Germany and you always remember the famous anecdote about Stirlitz. intolerant of course, but we are so sorry ..

Always laughed to tears at this masterpiece anecdote !!!!!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Husit

Always laughed to tears at this masterpiece anecdote !!!!!

Don't be ridiculous, Vital ...

[Machito]

Merz: Need to apply ...

[Just Alexander]

Quote: Trapp1st

Or is there someone who is adequate?

Yes, they are all adequate after the end of their political career. Is the shredder not adequate now?

[Trapp1st]

Yes, they are all adequate after the end of their political career.

I meant acting politicians.

[Just Alexander]

I agree that it is more difficult with the current ones, because they are under the pressure of the United States, on which their careers depend.

[SRC P-15]

Candidate for the post of head of the CDU in Germany: It is necessary to impose a moratorium on the construction of "SP-2"

You, the candidate, will not be the head of the CDU! Huge money has been invested in Nord Stream 2, including those of German companies. They will try to make sure that their grandmothers are repulsed, and they will appoint their own man as the head of the party! So sometimes it is better to be silent than to speak!

[cniza]

Quote: SRC P-15

You, the candidate, will not be the head of the CDU! Huge money has been invested in Nord Stream 2, including those of German companies.

Apparently they haven't explained to him yet ...

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

So sometimes it is better to be silent than to speak!

Do you seriously think that he says what he wants?)
Everyone has already thought for him. He's just a talking puppet.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

Do you seriously think that he says what he wants?)

So much the worse for him!

[Alexey Sommer]

And what is worse for him?

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

And what is worse for him?

I could have gone to Merkel's place, but ... "my tongue is my enemy."

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

I could have gone to Merkel's place, but ... "my tongue is my enemy."

It's not his language! Why don't you take this version into understanding?
Maybe the financial elite should just block SP2. They are just looking for a reason.
SP2 costs 10 yards, and German exports to the US are disproportionately larger.
Catch it?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Alexey Sommer

SP2 costs 10 yards, and German exports to the US are disproportionately larger.
Catch it?

It is important in this bundle not how much SP2 costs, but how much it promises.

[Husit]

Quote: Just Alexander

Quote: Trapp1st

Or is there someone who is adequate?

Yes, they are all adequate after the end of their political career. Is the shredder not adequate now?

The exes in the west are usually thought out like this, it's really amazing and EVERYTHING is immediately drowned for Russia

[NF68]

They would not have found "poison" in Navalny's body, they would have come up with something else. The task has been set by curators from overseas and here all means are good

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NF68

They would not have found "poison" in Navalny's body, they would have come up with something else.

So there is no official statement, only nonsense. And Navalny is not in the Charite either; according to German data, he is in a Bundeswehr hospital.

[cniza]

Quote: NF68

They would not have found "poison" in Navalny's body, they would have come up with something else. The task has been set by curators from overseas and here all means are good

No, this is a planned operation and so far everything is working out ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: cniza

No, this is a planned operation and so far everything is working out ...

With the Skripals, the patch came out, but here it went smoothly.

[cniza]

They even with the Skripals are trying to pull the plot on this situation, and soon we will hear their conclusions ...

[Bad_gr]

Quote: NF68

Wouldn't have found "poison" in Navalny's body, they'd have come up with something else

So the poison was invented. And I won't be surprised if, after this hospital, the poison in Navalny's body is really found.

[RUnnm]

QED that's all why we needed a performance with Navalny's "poisoning".
We will see what Merkel decides.
But now I understand one thing - I really don't want Navalny to return to my country.
These ***** don't belong here.

[Trapp1st]

I really don't want Navalny to return

He is unlikely to ever return, they tried to kill him , they will not break the legend about Mordor, not the fact that in general he will remain alive, let's see what the curators decide to do with him, it's easier for them, of course, whatever he squeezes out, knows a lot.

[alexmach]

He is unlikely to ever return, they tried to kill him

At least something good in this news and will be a lesson for implacable pests.
And the gas pipeline would be good to complete and put into operation more quickly. Although, if the Germans bury this project, then it will be clear who is who, and the "partners" can safely prepare an answer for meanness.

[Doliva63]

Quote: alexmach

Although, if the Germans bury this project, then it will be clear who is who, and the "partners" can safely prepare an answer for meanness.

In general, gas is not sold to them, or what ?!

[alexmach]

In general, gas is not sold to them, or what ?! belay

This is called "To Evil Granny, Freeze Your Ears." But in case of a project failure, it is simply necessary to raise a response to the Germans. Real, understandable and impacting on their interests.

[Just Alexander]

Quote: RUnnm

But now I understand one thing - I really don't want Navalny to return to my country.

I think he will not return to Russia. Fraught with consequences.
He is a pawn in someone else's game. And this game is lost.

[AML]

It's time to introduce a moratorium on the extension of contracts for the supply of gas and oil to Europe. Russia will definitely last 10 years without these receipts. But whether the European Union will hold out the big question. At least 500 gas will definitely kill the entire Western economy.

[Kronos]

Besides Russia, they now have someone to buy from.

[voyaka uh]

Oh, pips on your tongue! Get some more ...
They do not dare to apply sanctions on the export of oil products from Russia. This is an extreme measure. I hope it doesn't come to that ..

[dgonni]

Well, 10 years ago it would have had an effect. But in modern realities, it's like shooting yourself in both feet!
The oil market will be completely occupied by the Saudis and the states with the company. However, like the gas market, Qatar mattresses and Australia will not miss it either. Gazprom has already lost a third of the European market. Are you offering to give it up completely?
Considering 60% of budget revenues from petrochemistry, the country will probably last no more than a year.

[Sergey39]

Germany is frozen. The question is posed point-blank. Are you with us or against us again? Merkel is still silent, like a fish on ice.

[Karaul73]

What kind of attendants from Germany did Lukashenka eavesdrop on? If this is a provocation, then the FSB was simply obliged to promptly conduct an investigation and prove it. But what do we see? The Kremlin's demonstrative refusal to conduct an investigation. What does this tell us? That the zeroed one has completely lost touch with reality.

[Trapp1st]

What kind of attendants from Germany did Lukashenka eavesdrop on?

Not any, it's Lukashenka.

The Kremlin's demonstrative refusal to conduct an investigation.

The investigation about what?

[Odysseus]

Quote: Sentry73

The Kremlin's demonstrative refusal to conduct an investigation

They cannot do it.
1) The main thing during the investigation is not to get out on ourselves.
2) Putin cannot surrender the local oligarchic-bandit clans to the West. The question immediately arises: why is he so handsome here?
3) They also cannot carry out a formal investigation. This is not an internal Russian agenda or a communist. You can't just do nothing.

Quote: Sentry73

That the zeroed one has completely lost touch with reality.

Degradation there, of course, is strong. But here the point is different. They chose the lesser of evils. The logic is, for the "electorate" we will scream that these hands did not steal, and most importantly, they beat ours! This should work.
For the outside world to endure and speak, well, we let him go ...

[Mordvin 3]

The construction of the gas pipeline must be boycotted due to the fact that the Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was poisoned with military substance.

Well, that's it, and Lech ruined the chapel ...

[HMR333]

Let him turn off the gas for a week, let all supplies come to their senses at last and stop deliberately carrying nonsense!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: HMR333

Let them turn off the gas for a week

Hehe. For the sixth year now I have been watching Ukraine freeze without our gas. True, I woke up one day, and froze, the temperature was below zero in the apartment. And on TV they cheerfully broadcast about how we supply gas to Ukraine. Like - humanitarian aid.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Disconnect for a week and the maratorium will become a reality not for a couple of weeks, but for "plus infinity"!

[Quadro]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: HMR333

Let them turn off the gas for a week

Hehe. For the sixth year now I have been watching Ukraine freeze without our gas. True, I woke up one day, and froze, the temperature was below zero in the apartment. And on TV they cheerfully broadcast about how we supply gas to Ukraine. Like - humanitarian aid.

What the hell is this? Dill, as it were, buys our gas on the reverse and steals the one in transit. They really won't have gas - everyone will freeze. Well, to refute nonsense, if they don't freeze, then why did they have a showdown with housing and communal services in winter and forced the heating to turn on and burn the tires? Is it getting too hot?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Quadro

What nonsense is this?

Nonsense in your pants. And it was minus eight when the apples ripened in the Crimea.

[evgen1221]

In general, I will not be surprised if, with the change of power in the German region, sp2 will be covered by a short-term construction with mandatory payments of penalties by Russia.

[Mavrikiy]

Today, a statement on the fate of the SP-2 gas pipeline was made by Friedrich Merz, who is a representative of the CDU - Christian Democratic Union. He is aiming at the leaders of this party (ruling).

Merkel - come back, I will forgive everything!

[don-1500]

Here is the market for you, here is free competition for you. Pure protectionism and politics. Who else believes in the rosy dreams of the early 90s?

[Odysseus]

As expected, they beat "Cooperative Lake" for Navalny harshly. Throughout Russia, great is a propaganda howl and groan - yes Navalny had diabetes, pancreatitis, peritonitis, but he drank moonshine, but he was on a diet, but he is not a politician at all, and in general he was poisoned in Germany
You don't have time to laugh while watching the intensity of delirium.
The strongest thing is, of course, we will not open a case until it is clear what happened. But at the same time we demand that the Germans share with us the results of their investigation. But at the same time we are not sending any of the doctors / embassy to Navalny.
The reason for this surrealism is in the fork that Putin and Co.
1) It is impossible to hand over the brothers who poisoned Navalny. It turns out that the Kremlin does not control hazardous substances on its territory. And the main thing is a violation of the basic social contract - you rob Russia from below in exchange for loyalty. Therefore, Putin cannot surrender either Usmanov or Prigozhin. Or even the local Siberian mafia
2) Not to investigate anything and not to surrender is to receive sanctions and look like clowns with stories - you are all lying. Moreover, the final finishing off of the already dead SP-2 is still a flower. The West took a tough path finding a "newcomer" at Navalny. This is no less ridiculous than the behavior of the Russian authorities. And of course it is false. But it also has its own clear meaning - now they will beat for chemical weapons, and this is a legal reason for interfering in internal affairs.

[Georgievic]

You're really bad! 1) The Kremlin cannot control the use of household chemicals!

[Odysseus]

Quote: Georgievic

You're really bad! 1) The Kremlin cannot control the use of household chemicals!

Oh, this is a new version. Like, got poisoned, but with dichlorvos
I will add to the collection.

[Georgievic]

Add it! What "newbie"? From him the girlfriends of this shit would die like flies and all the passengers along with the crew! Funny to horror! And why are military experts, doctors, without any protection, dragging this half-wit in a plastic condom! Isn't it surprising that everything was resolved in a day? Come on, to hell with him, but how the brits and gandos, and that idiot Stoltenberg, got aroused as if they were sprinkled with dust! Doesn't say that everything was planned in advance?

[mark2]

Perhaps you consider yourself an intelligent and advanced liberal patriot. Navalny could be proud of you if he knew about your existence. Just give it up. Nobody, as you say, poisoned Olesha. He is not interesting to anyone here and does not represent, sorry, did not represent, however significant a threat. But he pocketed the grandmother, well, this is as usual in the ranks of bureaucrats and fighters for the rights of a particular person. So it merged according to the classical scheme. He staged the poisoning, the supporters were transported to Germany. We will not see him again.
As for gas in Germany, it remains to be seen what will happen next. Soon elections in Germany and autumn has come. Aggravation.

[Odysseus]

Quote: mark2

liberal patriot

Wrong address. With "liberal-patriotism" towards citizens Putin, Chubais and other Shoigu-Vekselberg.

Quote: mark2

He is not interesting to anyone here

That is, a person who was the leader of the 11-12 protests that triggered political reform, in 13-year-old took second place in Moscow with 27 percent (this is with full administrative control over the elections), after which he was not allowed to participate in any elections. what excuse, whose party was not registered either 8 or 9 times, about which the regime's propagandists were filming (materials are given by the FSB), every step of which is being watched, a person due to whom the whole world has been on the ears of no one for 3 weeks ?
Impressive version

Quote: mark2

He staged the poisoning, the supporters were transported to Germany.

Ahahahahahaha. That is, it was Navalny himself who staged his poisoning, which did not happen. And there was no coma, and all the Omsk doctors who pulled him out of the other world and "fought for his life and stabilized his condition for more than 24 hours" (I am quoting the official version of the Russian authorities) succumbed to the staging together with all the FSBs.
Congratulations. Of all the idiotic and stupidest versions that are possible, you have come up with the most idiotic and stupid one.
There is a suspicion that you are an insidious liberalist, because your messages are some kind of banter and trolling over the pro-Putin propaganda. For all their idiocy, they did not stoop to this.

[mark2]

3 weeks the whole world is on the ears of no one interested?

You have resulted in impressive achievements. He's not interesting. You yourself understand that the whole world is on its ears not because of Navalny. He's just an excuse. What problems are trying to solve, hiding behind Olesha, is it clear in the article, I think, written? These are supplies or not supplies of gas to Germany from Russia. So far, only gas. But they are already calling to repent for what still needs to be proved. And they cannot prove it.
The fact that the film was shot is good. The people found out what the authorities think about Navalny. conclusions will be made by everyone.
Have you followed? Rather looked after. The internal organs always look after those who have already once, and Navalny has been convicted more than once. Why don't you mention this?

that is, it was Navalny himself who staged his own poisoning, which did not happen. And there was no coma, and all the Omsk doctors who pulled him out of the other world and "fought for his life and stabilized his condition for more than 24 hours" (I am quoting the official version of the Russian authorities) succumbed to the staging together with all the FSBs.

How do you know all this? Did they tell you this? And why did you decide that he was poisoned by order of, say, one of those in power in Russia. Everything could be much more prosaic. After the "poisoning" of Olesha, the questions of gas, sanctions and other things are immediately raised. You need to look for someone who benefits. It was not profitable for the authorities here. they knew what would happen as it was. so why?
Maybe you think that he brought someone out into the open in his youtuberals? Yes, no one cares. only you do not care.
I believe that it has merged, you can believe otherwise. I am outside an expert in matters of faith.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Odyssey

The reason for this surrealism is in the fork that Putin and Co.
1) It is impossible to hand over the brothers who poisoned Navalny.

You're talking downhole nonsense

[Odysseus]

Quote: Cyril G ...

You're talking downhole nonsense

"For three days I have been chasing you to say how indifferent you are to me!"

[Cyril G ...]

Drink uzbagoitelny, you will not be flattened

[Reserve buildbat]

"I propose to impose a moratorium on the construction of SP-2 for a period of two years. The construction of the gas pipeline must be boycotted due to the fact that the Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a military substance. It is necessary to take a tough stance towards Moscow and demand an investigation and clarification of the situation. . "
And what if, in response, Moscow politely informs that gas supplies to Germany are only possible via SP-2?

[dgonni]

Qatar and mattresses will say senks! LNG terminals in Europe are barely half used.
At the moment in Europe the market is for the buyer and not the seller. So blackmail will not work, but will further aggravate the problems.

[Georgievic]

"... I propose to impose a moratorium on the construction of SP-2 for a period of two years ..." Hee-hee! And I propose to turn off SP-1 for the winter and "..European countries should react .." Well, they've pulled it up, haven't they?

[Doliva63]

Quote: Georgievic

"... I propose to impose a moratorium on the construction of SP-2 for a period of two years ..." Hee-hee! And I propose to turn off SP-1 for the winter and "..European countries should react .." Well, they've pulled it up, haven't they?

It’s not clear to me, what’s from the Gazprom JV? Do you trade stocks? I somehow give a fuck about both Gazprom and the "Countries of Europe". They have their own problems, I have my own, and they do not overlap. But they "pulled you up" - I wonder why?

[Karaul73]

Quote: AML

It's time to introduce a moratorium on the extension of contracts for the supply of gas and oil to Europe. Russia will definitely last 10 years without these receipts. But whether the European Union will hold out the big question. At least 500 gas will definitely kill the entire Western economy.

Yes, very soon there will be those who will supply it to Europe. Gazprom's revenue this year has already dropped dramatically.

[aleksr2005]

So this Merz is an American henchman! What's so surprising about his proposal!)

[parusnik]

I would say bluntly, Germany does not need SP-2 ... some kind of stupidity ... it will not be needed for two years, and then it will be needed ... He lobbies, someone's interests, and to justify lobbying, Navalny dragged in ... Business , nothing personal...

[Quadro]

The German business will quickly explain to him that his place is at the side of the bucket and that he shouldn't have been talking about it.

[cniza]

It also became known that Belarus decided to publish a recording of a conversation between representatives of Germany and Poland, from which it becomes clear that the statements about Navalny's poisoning are falsifications.

Is it worth publishing for now, let them cook and rage ...

[Brancodd]

Khodorkovsky, Navalny,…. Who is the next tow truck from Berlin?

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Nord Stream 2 project is an economic project, it should be completed, it should not be linked to the Navalny case, and it should not depend on US sanctions. This was announced today, August 28, by German Chancellor Angela Merkel at a press conference in Berlin.

“Our opinion is that Nord Stream 2 should be completed,” she said. “I consider it inappropriate to link this economic project with the Navalny case. And we are against US extraterritorial sanctions.” "In any case, we have always said that we must remain with Russia in negotiations. There are many international topics, for example, if we think about Syria, about Libya, where Russia, going beyond bilateral relations, is a geostrategic player with whom we must remain in negotiations." - pointed out the chancellor.

"The goal, as before, is to have good relations with Russia. Russia is a huge country with a long and great culture, and this stress curve (...) Will obviously accompany us in the coming months," Merkel added. If she finishes it, she will sit next to Schroeder on the board of the State Enterprise for retirement times) So her interest is normal, I think)

[Gennady Fomkin]

A question to deeply disrespectful Maiko and Angela: "WHERE ARE THREATS AND SANCTIONS AGAINST SAUDI ARABIA FOR HASHOGGI?"  Lavrov, instead of concern, should invite the German ambassador to the Foreign Ministry and kick the German in the head with a stool and then kick the lifeless body under the cameras for about five minutes

[Alsur]

Quote: Sentry73

What kind of attendants from Germany did Lukashenka eavesdrop on? If this is a provocation, then the FSB was simply obliged to promptly conduct an investigation and prove it. But what do we see? The Kremlin's demonstrative refusal to conduct an investigation. What does this tell us? That the zeroed one has completely lost touch with reality.

Understand that since 2018 there has been no justice, and therefore no investigation. Now the right field is ruled by "highley like".
Note, even Germany does not conduct an investigation, in Germany the same is used "highlighted".
Even if we carry out an investigation and confirm the conclusions of our doctors, this absolutely will not change anything and we will not be able to prove anything to anyone. It will be declared "highley like" Putin is to blame and that's it.

[From Tomsk]

If the EU abandons Nord Stream 2, neither Italy nor Gazprom's other customers in Central and Eastern Europe will lose, since they will simply continue to take gas from Baumgarten as before, where it will continue to flow through Ukraine ... Indeed, in December 2019, Moscow, which was unable to complete the construction of either the gas pipeline in the Baltic Sea or the second string of the Turkish Stream, had to conclude an agreement with Kiev for 5 years on the continuation of Ukrainian transit.

[AML]

Sure, not a problem. There is an agreed volume, let them get it. And they themselves will vyzhrut or Ukraine, too, will get something second, but everyone will definitely not have enough. Anyway, covid now. Everyone got sick and force majeure, so you can and quite officially send. And something tells me that the covid in another week will dissolve in Europe

[Viktor Sergeev]

I wonder how much he received from the USA? How they want to hit their economy and turn Russia to the East.

[Avior]

Now there is Panorama, where they promised to voice the negotiations on Navalny
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