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Forge of personnel for external management: where the ministers of defense of the countries of Eastern Europe studied

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A huge influence on the military and political elite has always been exerted by the country in which this elite once received education. After all, sooner or later students and cadets become ministers and generals. It is no coincidence that the USSR at one time welcomed national personnel from the developing countries of Asia and Africa with open arms.


In its turn. The United States also trained its agents of influence, accepting civilian and military youth from various countries to study. For example, the famous "School of the Americas" was a source of personnel for the armies, police and intelligence services of almost all Latin American countries.

When the socialist camp collapsed and the Soviet Union collapsed, one of the most important tasks for the United States was to form a new elite in the post-socialist countries that would be ready to serve Washington's interests. The American leadership did not trust the old cadres who received education, including in the USSR.

From the Baltics to Poland


In the Baltic countries, as well as in the United States itself, the military departments have long been headed by civilians. Their biographies are different, but almost all of them have a common point: they studied, trained, worked or were somehow connected with the United States or other Western countries.

Latvian Defense Minister Artis Pabriks is 54 years old. In his youth, he found the Soviet Union and even managed to serve in the Soviet Army, then graduated from the Faculty of History and Philosophy of the Latvian State University and left for the West in 1992: first he trained for five years in Denmark at the University of Aarhus, married a German woman Undine Bollow and went to the USA - also for an internship. Artis Pabriks returned to his native Latvia only in 1996.

Lithuanian Defense Minister Raimundas Karoblis is almost the same age as his Latvian counterpart: he was born in 1968, graduated from an ordinary Soviet school and the law faculty of Vilnius State University, after which he worked for a long time in the diplomatic department. In the West, however, Karoblis did not train, but his predecessor as minister in 2012-2016 and 2006-2008. trained at the University of Glasgow in the UK back in 1989.

The Estonian Defense Ministry is headed by Jüri Luik. He is also 54 years old, like his Latvian colleague, and by profession he is a journalist, a graduate of the still Soviet Tartu State University. Luik entered the civil service in 1991, at the age of 25, and at the age of 27 he became the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Estonia. In 2003-2007. Luik was the Estonian Ambassador to the United States, then in 2007-2012 - the Estonian representative to NATO. One of the predecessors of Luika Hannes Hanso, who headed the military department from 2015-2016, holds a BA in Political Science from the University of London.

Polish Minister of National Defense Mariusz Blaszczak was born in 1969 and graduated historical Faculty of Warsaw University, and an internship took place in Ireland. His predecessor Anthony Macerevich is much older than his colleagues - he is 72 years old. A graduate of Warsaw University, he studied the history of Latin American countries, and after the anti-Soviet turn, he became the country's interior minister.



And what about Georgia and Ukraine?


Ukraine is still the opposite of the Baltic countries: the defense ministers here are still predominantly from the military environment, and therefore with a Soviet military education. But studies and internships in the United States took place. The current head of the Ukrainian military department, 65-year-old Andriy Taran, graduated from the Kiev Higher Artillery Engineering of the Order of Lenin, the Red Banner School. CM. Kirov, then served in the Soviet Army. However, already in 1995-1996. we see such a line in his biography: studies in Washington at the US National Defense University and his graduation with a master's degree.

His predecessor, Andrei Zagorodnyuk, who was Minister of Defense in 2019-2020, is a civilian, but studied at Oxford. But Stepan Poltorak, now a retired army general, and in 2014-2019. - Minister of Defense, graduated from the Ordzhonikidze Higher Military Command School of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR named after S. M. Kirov and served in the Soviet and then Ukrainian internal troops.

The list of Georgian defense ministers trained in the West is impressive. Tina Hedasheli, 47, the current Minister of Defense, graduated from the Central European University, an English-language educational institution in Vienna, Austria, supported by George Soros.

Her predecessor, Mindia Janelidze, graduated from the Georgian State Security Academy in 2000, but trained in Washington under the US-Georgia security program. Dmitry Shashkin, the famous Russian Minister of Defense of Georgia, after graduating from the Faculty of Law at Tbilisi University, worked as a coordinator at the International Republican Institute of the United States, then headed by John McCain.

It is worth noting that among the young generation of civil servants in the Baltic countries, and in Poland, and in Georgia, and, of course, in Ukraine, there are even more people who underwent training or internship in the United States and Great Britain than among the current high-ranking officials. The Americans and the British are training people that are reliable for themselves, capable of implementing all the directives of external administration.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 6 September 2020 15: 44 New
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    Well, yes, if you want influence, make acquaintances, connections, teach. But you can't teach anyone by force. If they prefer England and the United States, then ..... request
    1. apro
      apro 6 September 2020 16: 11 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      If England and the USA are preferred, then ...

      Or highly recommended ... by stakeholders.
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  2. Gato
    Gato 6 September 2020 17: 03 New
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    Well, yes, if you want influence, make acquaintances, connections, teach

    ... recruit bully
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 7 September 2020 06: 07 New
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      Quote: Gato
      Well, yes, if you want influence, make acquaintances, connections, teach

      ... recruit bully

      What are they minus for? said correctly, although the form can be specified, involve in cooperation, oh how!
  3. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 7 September 2020 08: 36 New
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    "If you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children" .... having brought up the children of your enemy, you deprive him of his heirs and successors. So if after that you destroy him, then there will be no one to take revenge on, if the enemy remains alive, then there will be no one to continue to feud with you and the enmity will subside by itself. Children of enemies will profess different values ​​and worship different ideals than their parents, which means will not defend the values ​​and ideals of their fathers.
  • apro
    apro 6 September 2020 16: 08 New
    +2
    What is the article about? How to sign your own crimes and loss of opportunities ... and how the opposite side took advantage of these opportunities ...
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 6 September 2020 16: 16 New
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    It's just that the United States is more attractive than Russia in general, and in the field of education in particular.

    Thus, there are 1,2 million foreign students in the United States, and 180 thousand in Russia. And those, mostly from the countries of the former USSR - from Central Asia and the Caucasus. And from far abroad those who do not have enough money for Western universities come to us to study. You can also find out how many Russians study in US universities and how many Americans study in Russian universities. I will assume that American students in Russia can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

    How to attract foreigners to study in Russia?

    A) Improve the quality of education. Easy to say, hard to do. I have thoughts on this, although this is not on the topic of the article.

    The quality of education grows, as a rule, when there is real competition between universities. Although this does not exclude the low quality of education in the same USA. In the United States, there is even a term "diploma factory" which refers to almost every third college or university. The bad universities in the United States are usually public institutions, apart from military and police schools. I had a chance to get to know the American university system quite closely.

    B) Improve living conditions in dormitories of Russian universities. First of all for foreigners. For an ordinary foreigner, the state of toilets and showers in Russian university hostels can lead to a heart attack. Our students, unfortunately, are already grabbing unrepaired rooms in dorms for 4-5 people. to the room.

    C) Especially for foreigners, significantly increase the number of budget-funded places for studying at universities with increased scholarships. Moreover, this must be done for applicants from countries that are of particular importance for Russia.

    This may meet with criticism from the Russians on the theme that we ourselves have nothing to eat, and then there is also budget money for foreigners. But note that most of the PRC leadership before Xi Qin Ping studied in the USSR and has a warm attitude towards Russia. And this attitude is worth a lot of money! During my travels, I sometimes met with high-ranking foreigners who studied in the USSR. This has sometimes helped in some situations, and can help Russia as a whole.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 6 September 2020 18: 07 New
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      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      The quality of education grows, as a rule, when there is real competition between universities.

      In general, pay for everything again. And this is against the backdrop of the sluggish impoverishment of employees during the gathering economic crisis around the world. Do you have any other recipes? This one won't work.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 7 September 2020 06: 18 New
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      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      It's just that the United States is more attractive than Russia in general, and in the field of education in particular.

      Nonsense, it's just that education in the USA is more promising, more than half the world under them, a place will be found. China is even more promising, but the difficulties of an unknown mentality and we are sinners with vague prospects.
      Quote: Aleksandr1971
      Improve the quality of education. Easy to say, hard to do

      Here, yes, seams. Restore the USSR university, but where to get the USSR student?
      Improve living conditions in the hostels of Russian universities.
      sure what you need? A foreign student will rent a greenhouse and a hut for two.
      During my travels, I sometimes met with high-ranking foreigners who studied in the USSR.
      In the USSR, Hungarians and Chinese lived in mixed rooms with ours for 4-5 people without any problems.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 September 2020 17: 08 New
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    Everything is logical ... if you want to manage, influence, prepare your staff and move them to the top. As old as the world.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 6 September 2020 19: 26 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      ... if you want to manage, influence, prepare your staff and move them to the top. As old as the world.

      Therefore, I would call the article Forge of personnel for external management: where the politicians of the newly-made "democracies" of Eastern Europe studied... They are in the politics of vassal countries - they were trained, “spud”, promoted, everything is logical.
      And the former SA officers were taught in all sorts of War Colleges - and they also looked closely, dumbfounded. And they taught not from mistrust of the level of training, but rather to see with whom on the way
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 September 2020 20: 01 New
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        Employment in the history of any colonial, solid state, empire and voila !!! Corps of pages and everything else like that! What did the parabatelites do with the heirs of the local rulers? They took them to their upbringing and TRAINED what they needed ..... old as the world.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 6 September 2020 23: 23 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          They took them to their upbringing and TRAINED what they needed ..... as old as the world.

          The problem is that the amers / the West has the opportunity to invest in this with a long-term view, and it works.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 September 2020 06: 53 New
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            There is more than one problem!
            In a single state, representatives of several serious trends in politics and so on can engage in the education of personnel! There is no longer a single line of the party, the state .... not for good!
    2. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 7 September 2020 06: 05 New
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      In ancient Rome, and then in Byzantium, it was often customary to take up royal children from vassal or allied states in order to fill them with their more developed culture and education. And in medieval England and France, the children of vassals were often brought up from the age of 7 at the court of the overlords.
      Russia has fewer vassals than the United States, and there is also less money for the education of foreign children.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 September 2020 06: 55 New
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        Quote: Aleksandr1971
        , and there is also less money for the education of foreign children

        This is exactly the thing that, with due skill and diligence, brings tremendous returns !!!
  • Aleksandr1971
    Aleksandr1971 6 September 2020 18: 28 New
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    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Quote: Aleksandr1971
    The quality of education grows, as a rule, when there is real competition between universities.

    In general, pay for everything again. And this is against the backdrop of the sluggish impoverishment of employees during the gathering economic crisis around the world. Do you have any other recipes? This one won't work.


    I have not written anywhere about the fact that you always have to pay for education. You think it out for me.
    Higher education is usually very expensive, so it is better to keep part of higher education on the state budget.
    But some part of higher education can be paid for by the students themselves and their parents. I sent my daughter to a private boarding school in Florida at the age of 15. And before that, she left Russia every year to learn English. She is now a student at a university in the United States. And I am glad about her success. Long before leaving school, I had to decide with her mother the question of a university for my daughter. It is clear that the state will not pay for her education. Although I would be glad to have at least partial compensation from the budget. For me, the costs are quite difficult. But I hope it pays off for her future success. All the best for children.
    1. andr327
      andr327 6 September 2020 19: 17 New
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      Thus, in the person of your daughter, we already have at least an agent of US influence. Sadness.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 6 September 2020 22: 55 New
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        Sorry to meddle in your conversation. It all depends on the parents, what they instilled in their child. At the 2014 Olympics, the head of the facility where I worked was a graduate of some Harvard. Father gave a second education in England. When they were recruiting leaders from the state, he applied. Was I was extremely surprised that he was appointed director. I had to leave the plant to my father, my father, after training, gave him such a not frail factory to manage and take a very problematic Olympic facility. I did it, we were the second to launch internationally. And I think I followed his career a little. , he had to go up the hill in the civil service. Thanks to him for the holiday atmosphere, which they tried to cheat on us later. On the last day of the competition, we arranged such a show with security. In room 7 by 15 there was nowhere for an apple to fall. They just threw a cry into the stands that ours on 50 ke are fighting only with the Norwegian. hi
        1. ugol2
          ugol2 7 September 2020 14: 21 New
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          Quote: tralflot1832
          the head of the facility on which I worked was a graduate of some Harvard.
          ... he had to go up the hill in the civil service

          How wonderful!
          Now let's imagine that I am not the last one in one of the intelligence services in England or the United States.
          I know that from one of the countries officially recognized as the enemy, their students are studying with us.
          It is not necessary to have seven spans in the forehead, so as not to give an order to single out the most promising students from this environment, and secretly follow them.
          Speaking Russian to collect compromising evidence. Where someone crossed the road at a red light, where went to bed with the wrong girl, where he smoked weed ...
          All this in daddy and let it lie.
          And when the former student was an excellent student a year later, he “went for a promotion,” and became some kind of Deputy. minister, then the time will come to blow the dust off daddy, and show something to the newly-made official, and offer to cooperate a little ...

          As a scout, I did the wrong thing? Shouldn't have done it?
          Or is that how things are done?
      2. Aleksandr1971
        Aleksandr1971 7 September 2020 05: 06 New
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        This is apparently such a joke ?! Fun... what
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 6 September 2020 20: 31 New
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    ordinary mercantile traitors, in Russia we have a lot of them
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 6 September 2020 20: 36 New
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    The most important thing for them during the internship is to learn the phrases: We are at the forefront of defense against Russia. And if we make Russia angry, will you protect us from Russian people? We remember how they hit hard! fool
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 7 September 2020 05: 03 New
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      It's not your truth. I am sure that you have not trained in the USA. I am a lawyer by training. I have an internship at Georgetown University (Washington) and at the Vermont Law School. Don't think that everyone who has been abroad has become spies.
      During internships in American universities, they do not speak at all about other states as if there are no other states at all. During internships, foreign students in the United States get acquainted exclusively with American experience, mostly practical, and a little theory.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 7 September 2020 08: 55 New
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        I agree with you. I climbed abroad with what I started under the USSR. It all depends on the parents, what they gave you as a child. They instilled in me a love for the Motherland, to bite the throat of any adversary by the birch trees. Yesterday I wrote about a Harvard graduate, how he led the Olympic object.Only positive emotions. hi
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 6 September 2020 21: 15 New
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    For a long time already I have been promoting in the minds of citizens the simple idea that young people from the Russian Federation in these gravards and other schools of economics and management abroad are trained according to the originally changed program, that is, they are not teaching what they teach to the locals.
    1. Aleksandr1971
      Aleksandr1971 7 September 2020 05: 13 New
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      It doesn't take much intelligence to promote such a stupid idea. And you need intelligence in order to first get a good education, and then capitalize this education into success in life. My daughter is studying in the United States at a university where there are practically no Russians. Nobody gives her a specific program for the Russians. The university has a certain list of compulsory disciplines. Also, the student needs to independently choose a certain number of academic disciplines, which together give the required number of points (subject to successful development) for the corresponding academic year.

      I would like to see on this thread a really deep comment or statement on the merits of the topic of the article.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 7 September 2020 06: 21 New
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        That's because he studies with the locals, and, let it be you know, there were seminars specifically for teaching
        capital economy in the 90s, and abroad and foreign friends in the territory. Ali did not know or are playing the fool. Today the need has partly disappeared because the client understands the program perfectly and successfully implements it by adding a local flavor.
  • iouris
    iouris 7 September 2020 13: 26 New
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    RF is a "country of Eastern Europe".
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  • 1536
    1536 8 September 2020 06: 55 New
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    Yes, these are impossible to tame! Take from them their daily soup and ... nightly pleasures, and they will immediately grab your throat, teach them or not, and also where and how not to teach. In the United States, they know about this, and therefore they cook specially for them soup from waste and add to various perversions.