With a lock and a stun gun. J. Fox carbines

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With a lock and a stun gun. J. Fox carbines

Fox's carbine, semi-automatic. Photo Gunbroker.com

Security weapons can be provided in different ways. One of the most original solutions was proposed by the American designer Gerard J. Fox in his line of carbines for pistol cartridges. These weapons, intended for the police, other structures and civilian shooters, had a set of fuses and even a combination lock.

From replicas to original


History J. Fox carbines date back to the mid-sixties. During this period, the Eagle Gun company, founded by Bill Ordner, developed several carbines for pistol cartridges. The Eagle products were based on the design of the M3 submachine gun, but outwardly resembled the Thompson and other well-known models. The production of carbines was ordered from a third-party enterprise.



In 1967, Meriden Firearms began selling Eagle products. Its head, Jerry Fox, began pushing for the development of new weapons with broader commercial prospects. The controversy continued for a couple of years, until in 1969 a fire broke out at the production of "Needles", which destroyed some of the resources and equipment. The prospects for cooperation were questionable.


View from the other side. Photo Gunbroker.com

Fox and Ordner did not give up and decided to resume production. They brought in businessman John Hoover and, with his help, founded a new company, Tri-C Corp. and started developing new weapons. This time it was planned to create a completely new sample, similar to the others only with applied ideas and solutions.

Carabiner for police


In 1971, J. Fox and colleagues completed the development of a new weapon in 1971 and immediately patented individual structural elements. Soon, a full-fledged prototype appeared under the obvious name Fox Carbine.

The project envisaged the creation of a carbine for a pistol cartridge specifically for law enforcement agencies. This purpose predetermined the presence of characteristic features - additional blocking of the trigger mechanism and auxiliary special equipment.


Close-up of a combination lock. Photo Thefirearmblog.com

The carbine was built according to a linear layout with an automatic mechanism based on a free shutter operating from a rear sear. The product had a breakable design with an upper receiver and a lower trigger casing. Some of the parts were made of aluminum. Provided for a fixed buttstock, forend and wood grip.

Fox Carbine could be built chambered for 9x19 mm Para or .45 ACP. Regardless of the ammunition, a replaceable rifled barrel with a total length of 16 7/8 inches (428 mm) with a muzzle brake was used. A barrel with a silent firing device installed on it was developed.

The free-shutter automation was based on the design of the Soviet PPSh. A massive rectangular shutter was used, behind which there was a reciprocating combat spring. At the rear wall of the receiver there was a polymer buffer for damping shocks. The shutter had a replaceable larva with a cup for two types of cartridges, which simplified production.

The trigger mechanism provided locking the shutter in the rear position before firing. Three fuses were provided at once. On the left side of the casing there was a safety-translator flag, and an automatic safety button was located on the rear of the pistol grip. In front of the trigger guard, a mechanical combination lock with three numbers was inserted into the casing. Number rings were displayed on the left side of the weapon.


Drawing from the patent - trigger locked with a lock

The coded and automatic safety catch used a common system of levers and locked the bolt in the rear position, preventing the release. It was assumed that the key on the handle would exclude accidental shots when falling, and the combination lock would not allow a stranger to use the weapon.

For the carbine, two options for trigger mechanisms were offered, one allowed only single fire, the second allowed bursts of fire. The necessary elements of the mechanism were made in the form of a removable block. According to the advertisement, the replacement took only 63 seconds.

The submachine gun was equipped with box magazines of different capacities. The magazine for the .45 ACP held 30 rounds, for the "Parabellum" - 32. The magazine was placed in the shaft in front of the combination lock and was fixed with a rear latch.

Open sights were placed on the barrel and box. Effective firing range - no more than 150-200 m. As an additional option, sight illumination means or a full-fledged night sight were offered.


USM is unlocked and can fire

Fox Carbine could be equipped with a removable wooden stock. At the same time, a special version of the butt was proposed, which expanded the capabilities of the weapon. This butt had a cavity for mounting the battery. With the help of a cable, a baton with an electric shock device was connected to it.

The total length of the carbine for the police reached 910 mm, with the stock removed - 665 mm. Weapon weight with butt and without magazine - 3,5 kg. With an "automatic" trigger, a technical rate of fire of 675 rds / min was achieved.

Entering the market


In the early seventies, Tri-C began trying to find customers for the newest Fox Carbine. As originally planned, it was offered to various police departments and other security forces. As undoubted advantages, they were given rather high fighting qualities, the presence of a lock for blocking and the ability to install various accessories. Some organizations might be interested in a carbine with a built-in shock.


The trigger casing is separate from the weapon. Photo Gunbroker.com

The company received several small orders and started serial production. However, earnings turned out to be small, and Tri-C barely kept afloat. She coped with the recession of 1974-75, but already in 1976 a fire broke out in production. Further activities proved to be impossible.

Jerry Fox made a fresh attempt to start production. Literally in his own garage, he deployed FoxCo, which was able to produce a small batch of weapons and ship them to customers. Then they managed to get several new orders - weapons in a simplified configuration went to stores for sale to civilians. Income from new sales over time provided expansion of production and allowed an increase in production rates.

FoxCo collected Fox Carbine until 1980. During this time, approx. 1500-2000 weapons, although the exact number remains unknown. Known serial numbers for surviving Tri-C carbines range from 000001 to 000694. FoxCo began production with 050001; the latest known is 051250. A complete list of customers is not available and is likely lost.


Police carbine with a shock device. Photo Guns.com

Carbines are not for the police


The Fox Carbine had little success among police departments, but sold well in the civilian market. In the early eighties, it was decided to develop a new version of the weapon and expand production. To this end, FoxCo signed an agreement with the Dean Machine Company.

Based on Fox Carbine, a simplified TAC-1 product was developed that meets the requirements of the civilian market. It did not have an auto-fire, was not equipped with a silencer or a shocker, etc. In 1981 it was introduced to the market under the Demro brand. Soon, four modifications of this weapon appeared with different features and characteristics. In particular, some were positioned as full-fledged submachine guns. A set of three fuses, including a combination lock, was not used on all samples.

The original system of protection against unauthorized access received different ratings. Not all buyers considered a combination lock necessary, which often affected their choice when buying. Except for this node, the TAC-1 had no major differences from other products in its class on the market, not to mention decisive advantages.


TAC-1 civilian rifles, flyer. Photo Foxcarbine.com

In 1983, production had to be curtailed due to changes in legislation. There were new restrictions on blowback weapons and the commercial prospects of the TAC-1 were sharply reduced. Further release of the carbine was considered unprofitable.

Limited success


Only a few US law enforcement agencies have ordered Tri-C carbines in different configurations. There is information about the production of both simple weapons and those reinforced with electrical equipment. However, the total volume of production remained small and carbines were not widely used. The successes in the civilian market were better, but even here FoxCo and Demro did not become leaders.

Thus, the original design solutions predetermined the characteristic appearance of the promising model, but did not help it to advance in the market. Since then, various companies have repeatedly tried to create weapons with additional security means - and not a single such sample has become widespread. The main reason for this was almost always the lack of real advantages over samples without locks or other devices.
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  1. +7
    13 September 2020 07: 54
    A strange weapon for the originals.
    A primitive pistol grip, like their times of the early 20th century, and the rest too.
    ... based on the design of the M3 submachine gun,

    From the design of the M3, it was possible to consider only the trigger. The drawing still shows a cylindrical shutter, although the photo with the trigger and the weapon in general clearly indicates a rectangular one, like the PPSh.
    It is not surprising that the police did not want to have a shocker with such a strange design with a power supply - it is inconvenient neither as a carbine, nor as a shocker, nor as a baton.
    It is not surprising that they did not have much success.
    Moreover, the developer was pursued by fires - now there is a fire, now here. smile
  2. 0
    13 September 2020 09: 54
    Wow. A very interesting article, I was especially surprised by the additional blocking of the trigger ... if you do not take into account the origin (country) of the weapon, the approach there is simply creative. And probably not far off the security system based on fingerprints from being used by unauthorized persons.
    1. +2
      13 September 2020 19: 34
      Imprints are difficult to implement, expensive and requires special electronics adapted to heavy use, so this is difficult to use on hand-held weapons, an ordinary mechanical key is much better - at least you need to make a chip into the cartridge primer and completely abandon a mechanical striker to start at least somehow work. This, by the way, is one of the reasons why the mechanical lock of the ignition system is still preserved in transport.
      True, hunters, for example, were very lucky that this carbine is little known and not very popular - otherwise the legislators, having gotten excited, would certainly have forced their entire economy to be equipped with codniks, and then the appetite would have flared up to the "black boxes" - modern electronics for the trigger is not suitable for recording who, what, where, when and where the jeepies shot with an online auto-report - it's more than enough.
  3. +2
    13 September 2020 13: 05
    The carbine was built according to a linear arrangement with an automatic mechanism based on a free shutter operating from a rear sear.

    And this in 1971, they used the p / p scheme of the beginning of the century, it is not surprising that the model did not find its buyer.
    The Eagle products were based on the design of the M3 submachine gun,


    The free-shutter automation was based on the design of the Soviet PPSh. A massive rectangular shutter was used ...


    It turns out that they were producing almost two different submachine guns? Some kind of crap. request
    1. +4
      13 September 2020 13: 51
      It turns out that they were producing almost two different submachine guns? Some kind of crap.
      No crap. It's just that the author got confused in his own verbiage.
      There were two different firms. The first, the Eagle Gun Company, was owned by Bill Ordner and produced the Eagle Mark I, Spitfire, Apache and Commando Carbine chambered for .45 ACP. Automation like the M3.
      The second, the Meriden Firearms, was owned by Gerard J. Fox, did not manufacture anything, it sold carbines to the Eagle Gun Company.

      In 1969, just as the joint business seemed to take off, the Eagle Gun Company in Pennsylvania burned down completely. The partners were unable to decide on the restoration. Ordner wanted to keep the lineup, Fox thought a different model was needed. As a result, the partners parted.
      Fox, together with John Hoover, forms the TRI-C Corporation. It was on this company that Fox Carbine appeared, very similar to the Eagle, but with automatic equipment like the PPSh 41, which Fox got acquainted with during the Second World War and which Fox considered the best PP.
      That is, these are two different types of weapons from two different companies, produced at different times.
      1. +2
        13 September 2020 13: 54
        Thank you, Victor! hi Everything finally became clear and understandable, and fell into place. But in general, somehow the people were not lucky there - they were constantly burning. request
        1. +4
          13 September 2020 13: 59
          Obviously they ignored the Fire Safety Rules for associations, enterprises and organizations of the Ministry of General Machine Building, or medium machine building.
          1. +4
            13 September 2020 14: 08
            They just didn't read our rules. And with ours you can smoke on fuels and lubricants, if you observe them strictly. smile
            1. +3
              13 September 2020 19: 17
              Someone ran over today's comment with minuses. Who is it that flatters?
              1. +2
                13 September 2020 19: 24
                Vic, I don't know. Someone has an obvious inferiority complex, misanthropy and stomach ulcers. Well, if it makes him even a little easier from the possibility of a little spoil - then to hell with him, sick.
  4. +2
    13 September 2020 21: 43
    Today there are many combination locks on the weapon bracket ...
    combination lock on the pistol
    combination lock on a bracket
    combination lock on the gun
    There are many simple key brace locks, but they are easy to open "without a key". You can make such a lock on the bracket for fingerprints, but it will cost more ...
  5. 0
    14 September 2020 17: 12
    Combination lock, like a suitcase.