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Who is cheaper to live with gas: comparison of gas prices in Russia and Ukraine

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Prime Minister of Ukraine Denis Shmygal announced that the gas price in the country will be the lowest in the past five years this year. But is it really so? Let's compare gas prices in the countries of the former USSR.


Liberalization of the Ukrainian gas market


The collapse of the Soviet state and the destruction of the unified Soviet economy put the countries that emerged in the post-Soviet space in an unequal position in terms of access to natural resources. Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan turned out to be raw material donors, supplying oil and gas, while Ukraine itself became only a consumer of energy resources supplied primarily from neighboring Russia.

Until August 1, 2020, the Ukrainian gas market was controlled by the state-owned company Naftogaz of Ukraine, and now it has opened up to household consumers who can choose their own gas supplier. Naturally, such a large-scale reform immediately led to an increase in prices on the gas market, but at the same time, the Ukrainian prime minister sees only positive consequences in the liberalization of the gas market: they say, it is not officials who will now form "corrupt prices", but businessmen - market prices.

However, the Ukrainian consumer is unlikely to feel hot from this, in the literal sense of the word. Gas prices remain high, and although at first the companies, which are just entering a new market, will try to attract customers by dumping, everything will return to normal soon. Does an ordinary Ukrainian citizen care about who profits from gas supplies: officials of a state corporation or entrepreneurs, perhaps not with Ukrainian citizenship?

Therefore, the premier's statement is difficult to assess unambiguously. On the one hand, of course, it is good that Kiev has tackled the long-overdue problem of reforming the gas industry, but on the other hand, it is very likely that in the end the liberalization of the gas market will only contribute to a further rise in gas prices. However, it is too early to rejoice: the situation with gas prices in Russia, unfortunately, is also not the best. Although Naftogaz promises an increase in gas prices by 30-40% already during 2020, and gas in Russia has grown by only 3% in price, every year a Russian can buy less gas, and a Ukrainian more and more - in relation to salaries rather than in absolute terms.

Who will buy how much gas in the ex-USSR


If we compare gas prices in the former USSR and in the world as a whole, we see that the population of Russia and Kazakhstan is in the best position. Here is the cheapest gas. The cost of 1000 cubic meters of gas in Russia in 2019 was $ 95, in Kazakhstan - $ 50. For comparison: in Belarus - already $ 151, and in Ukraine - $ 313. However, this figure is still better than in Moldova ($ 323), in Lithuania, where 1000 cubic meters of gas cost $ 467 last year, than in Estonia with $ 490 and Latvia with $ 520.


However, the low absolute cost of a cubic meter of gas in comparison with other countries is "compensated" by the amount that can be bought for an average salary. And here we see the true alignment: in 2019, a Kazakhstani could buy 7521 cubic meters of gas, a Russian - 6652, a Belarusian - 2936, an Estonian - 2591, a Lithuanian - 1721, a Moldovan - 1056, and a Ukrainian - only 1018.

The situation has changed over the year. Now a Ukrainian citizen can buy already 2345 cubic meters of gas - almost the same as an Estonian and even a Frenchman. In Kazakhstan, the availability of gas has also increased from 7521 to 8840 cubic meters of gas for an average salary, but Russia has significantly moved out: now a Russian can afford only 6505 cubic meters of gas instead of 6652 last year. So, against the background of Russia, the growth in gas availability in Ukraine is impressive. Especially if you remember that in 2017, just three years ago, a Ukrainian could buy only 796 cubic meters of gas for an average salary.

Thus, the Ukrainian prime minister really has something to calm down his fellow citizens, even if the situation will change in the future.
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 5 September 2020 11: 47
    +9
    There is no pipe, but I buy a balloon for 50 liters 2000 tenge, 357 rubles, I made heating on cylinders last year.
    1. apro
      apro 5 September 2020 11: 56
      10
      I work welded. Last year we took a balloon for 1200, this 1500 we live well.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 5 September 2020 12: 15
        +9
        50 liters for 1500 rubles?
        1. apro
          apro 5 September 2020 12: 20
          +5
          Shocked myself. Standard
        2. 7,62h54
          7,62h54 5 September 2020 13: 56
          +5
          The volume of the cylinder is 50 liters, but usually 40-42 liters are poured. It is supposed to leave free space.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 6 September 2020 14: 24
            -1
            Quote: 7,62x54
            The volume of the cylinder is 50 liters, but usually 40-42 liters are poured. It is supposed to leave free space.

            It's not mainstream methane, what are you comparing with?
        3. Stalllker
          Stalllker 5 September 2020 14: 37
          -1
          It is possible for 2000 rubles laughing if desired
      2. GTYCBJYTH2021
        GTYCBJYTH2021 5 September 2020 12: 20
        10
        Quote: apro
        I work welded. Last year we took a balloon for 1200, this 1500 we live well.

        What region do you live in? In mid-August, I changed a 50-liter cylinder at Gazpromneft-967 rubles ... Krasnoyarsk ...
        1. apro
          apro 5 September 2020 12: 21
          10
          Amur Region we have imported gas.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 5 September 2020 17: 15
            19
            Oleg hi, well, you are not Chinese. This was the pipe that was stretched to them, it is true, they are puffed up and cannot fill it, but the "friend of C" is already turning the "bro" around for her. They just "put" on you (as well as on everything in Zamkadye). "The President" said that the bridge to Hokkaido must be built - then you will immediately heal "like a human being", but this is not certain. winked
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 6 September 2020 12: 08
              +4
              So this is capitalism in the yard. They do what is beneficial, not what ordinary people need. Everything is trite. It is useless to scold the party and the government, the capitalists also sit there. Why is there no Russian space? Because there are also capitalists in Roskosmos, etc. No, there are no fools in the party and government, and there never will be. They just measure EVERYTHING with the benefit of the moment. This is the answer to ALL questions, why this is so, and not in the mind, for the long term and for the good of Russia.
              1. Mikhail Ya2
                Mikhail Ya2 7 September 2020 07: 44
                0
                So in the United States, capitalists are all too often, the same Musk, but space is moved. So maybe it's not the capitalists, but the people?
                1. Akuzenka
                  Akuzenka 9 September 2020 11: 51
                  +1
                  I will disappoint you. Musk fulfills a GOVERNMENT order in a private shop, funded by government money. Instead of Musk, it could have been anyone appointed. It's just that in America they reinsure themselves and make themselves a spacewalk. Read the history of America's space exploration. It's just that history repeats itself. And "ours" were either thrown into space, or profit is more important to them. Then they will catch up and start to catch up. If there is this future.
      3. Stalllker
        Stalllker 5 September 2020 14: 36
        -2
        You didn't buy this balloon from the state, but a private trader. Everyone wants to eat too
      4. Svarog
        Svarog 5 September 2020 14: 45
        +4
        Quote: apro
        I work welded. Last year we took a balloon for 1200, this 1500 we live well.

        Well .. every year it's getting better .. At this rate, soon gas / petrol will not be available at all .. There is no time for buildup ..
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 5 September 2020 17: 29
          12
          At this rate, gas / petrol will not be available to us at all.

          Ty, Vladimir hi, put a gas generator on your car, get a subscription for hiking in the forest for "free dead wood", and good luck! In "breakout"!




          PS And no thanks for the "life hack". bully
        2. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 6 September 2020 12: 09
          +3
          Why should slaves drive cars? They must break their caps on the roadside.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 September 2020 12: 02
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      There is no pipe, but I buy a balloon for 50 liters 2000 tenge, 357 rubles, I made heating on cylinders last year.

      And how much gas is consumed in winter in a month (if you use gas)?
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 5 September 2020 12: 12
        +9
        House 85 meters, built in 1964, lined with brick, plastic windows, 5-6 cylinders per month, depends on the temperature outside, very convenient, I liked it, turned it on, set the temperature and no worries, unlike coal and firewood.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 September 2020 12: 41
          +1
          Quote: Pessimist22
          House 85 meters, built in 1964, lined with brick, plastic windows, 5-6 cylinders per month,

          Tolerable 3 liters per square, one cylinder 4 euros, heating 25 euros per month. I have a building built at the beginning of the 20th century of 2500 sq.m., in January, a consumption of 4958 cubic meters paid 2500 euros, about 70 euros for a 50 meter office. And for the same apartment as your house 85 meters, I will pay 120 euros.
        2. Stalllker
          Stalllker 5 September 2020 14: 38
          -1
          It is more expensive to heat gas than coal, don't go to a fortuneteller here
    3. serge siberian
      serge siberian 5 September 2020 17: 01
      +4
      In Novosibirsk, I pay 27 rubles for a 480-liter cylinder, the budget does not allow the pipe. repeat
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 5 September 2020 19: 16
        +6
        Guys, the point is that in Kazakhstan they took up infrastructure a little earlier. The south is already all gasified. Now there is central Kazakhstan.
        Moreover, we have gas only in the west of the republic. But thanks to the laying of pipes from Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan to the PRC from us, we managed to supply gas to the south - the most densely populated regions of the country. Therefore, the north-east and east of the country remain in question. There is hope, there is talk, that the Russian gas pipeline to the PRC through Altai will be launched at the expense of Kazakhstan through us - then it will be solved with gasification of all regions. If not, then you yourself will have to somehow solve the issue.
        By the way, recently it was decided to transfer Astana, the CHPP to gas because of the ecology. The issue of Alma-Ata is being resolved.
  2. Sailor
    Sailor 5 September 2020 11: 54
    30
    For some reason, they forgot to mention gas-producing Turkmenistan where gas is a "freebie" for citizens, and our "beggar" Gazprom is our property, as the advertisement says, three skins are fought from the people, and by the way, in "falling apart" Ukraine at lower prices in stores, the average salary is higher in the most resource-rich country of Russia, into a paradox! PS Well, admirers of Putin and his cunning plans are waiting for cons.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 5 September 2020 12: 16
      +7
      There is no freebie there, you have outdated information.
      1. Sailor
        Sailor 5 September 2020 18: 01
        +5
        And at what price is there gas for the population?
    2. Brancodd
      Brancodd 5 September 2020 12: 17
      -15 qualifying.
      in "crumbling" Ukraine with lower prices in stores, the average salary is higher than in the richest country in resources of Russia, a paradox!
      This statement is not true.
      They plan that this year the average salary will be 13 gr (they are planning). This is 000 rubles. Now the average salary in Russia is 32 rubles.
      The approval of prices is the same, to put it mildly, not true.
      For example gasoline.
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 September 2020 14: 41
        14
        The average salary is now UAH 11800. This is 32000 rubles. And in Ukraine it is much closer to the real average than in Russia, there are no such scattered at times. Minimum RUB 13600, UAH 5000
        1. Gato
          Gato 5 September 2020 15: 09
          +8
          The average salary is now UAH 11800.

          In Ukraine? Not funny, this is the average salary in Kiev. And the very concept of the average salary is like in that joke: two women - one a prostitute, the other a virgin, and on average they are both b ..
          1. Avior
            Avior 5 September 2020 15: 20
            +6
            This anecdote rather characterizes the average salary in Russia.
            In Ukraine, there is no such spread both by region and by salary, everything is more or less even .. Minimum 5000, average 11800.
            In Kiev, the average is higher than in the country - 17000, but not at times, as in Russia, by region can be found.
            1. l7yzo
              l7yzo 5 September 2020 16: 45
              +4
              Look at the picture in general - the steps towards a pandemic in Ukraine were the same and in the same sequence as in the Russian Federation. The introduction of training and taxes on goods is about the same - it differs by location. I think that, how to say - there is only one conductor ...

              This is what I mean - and the salary for the parity of the ability to buy is the same. In Ukraine, there is a visa for work - which adds a couple of percent to the salary. And vegetable gardens. In the Russian Federation there are "come in large numbers" - who successfully knock down the growth of salary in the regions.
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 September 2020 17: 48
                +4
                I totally agree.
                We sit equally in the opera ...
            2. 27091965
              27091965 5 September 2020 18: 27
              +3
              Quote: Avior
              In Ukraine, there is no such spread both by region and by salary, everything is more or less even .. Minimum 5000, average 11800.


              At the former work there were many from Western Ukraine, shift, according to them, their salary is from 3000 to 8000 hryvnia. I think it is different everywhere, it all depends on the region.
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 September 2020 18: 32
                +2
                Either they are dumbfounded, or you have been talking to them for a long time.
                In Ukraine, the minimum is 5000 UAH.
                Average
                https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/2020/
                There is a map by areas
                1. 27091965
                  27091965 5 September 2020 18: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: Avior
                  Either they are dumbfounded, or you have been talking to them for a long time.


                  In January of this year, I quit in the summer, I think there is a tax evasion system everywhere. Our salary was also high, but throw away all the increments and it turns out to be not that high.
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 5 September 2020 18: 46
                    +2
                    They could not receive less than 4780.
                    It was the minimum wage. Now they have increased it.
                    1. 27091965
                      27091965 5 September 2020 18: 50
                      +1
                      Quote: Avior
                      They could not receive less than 4780.
                      It was the minimum wage. Now they have increased it.


                      I wrote what they said, but what is really known only to them.
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 5 September 2020 19: 07
                        +3
                        As a matter of fact - we know what the minimum wage is.
                        It means that they did not say everything, for example, they worked part-time or something else. Or for some reason they underestimated it, that's for sure only they know.
                    2. Armored beast
                      Armored beast 6 September 2020 14: 27
                      -3
                      And the fact that the minimum wage taxes in full + military duty. How many clean hands? Mathematician!
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 6 September 2020 14: 53
                        +3
                        do you think that salary taxes are not taken in Russia? yeah, schaz ...
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 5 September 2020 14: 49
        13
        Quote: Brancodd
        Now the average salary in Russia is 47 rubles.

        If the average salary is counted together with the salaries of Abramovich, Fridman, Usmanov, Potanin, Timchenko, Mordashov, Vekselberg, then, probably, yes, we will reach 47000 rubles. winked
        1. Brancodd
          Brancodd 5 September 2020 15: 11
          +3
          The characters you listed do not receive a salary and are not included in statistics.
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      3. vadivm59
        vadivm59 5 September 2020 19: 09
        10
        what do you mean !!! 47t.r. not tired of writing about "average t in the hospital"? I live in Siberia, I repeat, IN SIBERIA, salary 18 tons. I work at a boiler assembly plant. Not in the "horns and hooves" artel.
      4. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 6 September 2020 08: 28
        +4
        Quote: Brancodd
        The approval of prices is the same, to put it mildly, not true.

        The food is much cheaper there.
      5. 72jora72
        72jora72 7 September 2020 00: 09
        +1
        Now the average salary in Russia is 47 rubles.
        You yourself are not funny?
        1. Ruswolf
          Ruswolf 7 September 2020 13: 30
          0
          Quote: 72jora72
          Now the average salary in Russia is 47 rubles.
          You yourself are not funny?

          Yesterday they gave Rosstat data the average already 52 thousand! The ice has broken ... Who is more!
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 5 September 2020 12: 34
      -3
      the amount of consumption by the population of countries can first compare. tears three skins? we have some of the lowest gas prices in the world for the population. all numbers are freely available.
    4. Olgovich
      Olgovich 5 September 2020 12: 48
      -1
      Quote: Sailor
      in "crumbling" Ukraine with lower prices in stores, the average salary is higher than in the richest country in resources of Russia, a paradox!

      A deceitful "paradox": on the Ruin the wage is $ 358, in Russia - $ 728 (2019).

      The article is also funny: Ukrainians can buy today (and this is growth)
      2345 cubic meters of gas

      But nothing, the author, that in 2014 he could buy 4 m000?
      1. Revival
        Revival 5 September 2020 15: 21
        11
        It is completely biased to take the average "invented" salary.
        It is more objective to take the minimum wage.

        1) from January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in Ukraine is 4723 hryvnia ($ 199.35 or € 177.74).
        From September 1, 2020, the minimum wage is 5000 hryvnia ($ 180.76 or € 152.54).

        2) From January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in the Russian Federation is 12130 rubles. (Article 1 of the Federal Law of June 19.06.2000, 82 N 160,98-FZ). ($ 135,97 or € XNUMX).

        What a twist!
        In "beggar" Ukraine, which has fallen apart, there is more mortality than ours
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 5 September 2020 16: 06
          -13 qualifying.
          Quote: Revival
          It is more objective to take the minimum wage.

          This is with a fright?

          The average in Russia is TWO TIMES higher than the average in the Ruin.
          1. Revival
            Revival 5 September 2020 16: 24
            10
            Average salary is a manipulative value.
            And the minimum wage is objectively established by law.
            Or inconvenient, nothing to say?
            1. Brancodd
              Brancodd 5 September 2020 18: 33
              -4
              Dear Reduced Friend. Earlier in this thread, you put pressure on the average salary "in" Ukraine. When they dunked you a little, they began to convince everyone that the average salary does not matter ...
              1. Revival
                Revival 5 September 2020 20: 04
                +5
                Dear down-to-earth sow .... individual, read it again, if you can, of course, I was just initially against the average amorphous salaries !!!
                And I am writing from Moscow
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 6 September 2020 08: 47
              -8
              Quote: Revival
              Average salary is a manipulative value.

              What the bullshit? fool
              This is a calculated value based on the official. data.
              Quote: Revival
              And the minimum wage is objectively established by law.


              What is .... "objective"?fool And the middle one is "mythical"?
              Quote: Revival
              Or inconvenient, nothing to say?

              about the minimum wage receive a salary 4,6% employedx. Other 95,4% get MORE

              Got it, no?
              1. Revival
                Revival 6 September 2020 11: 10
                +8
                On the "average", who just did not speak out that it is announced in the region, but the residents of the region cannot find it.
                This is like unemployment, just the opposite, officially declared low, only registered on the stock exchange, but in real life it is much more, just for a beggarly allowance of 1500 rubles, and even with a thousand conditions and obstacles, no one is registered.
                So the official data is certainly a strong argument, but for the transfer of "evening ..".
                PS
                Do not impose on me your invented "official" reality, then who else will think that this is nonsense
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 6 September 2020 15: 49
                  -7
                  Quote: Revival
                  On the "average", who just did not speak out that it is announced in the region, but the residents of the region cannot find it.
                  This is like unemployment, just the opposite, officially declared low, only registered on the stock exchange, but in real life it is much more, just for a beggarly allowance of 1500 rubles, and even with a thousand conditions and obstacles, no one is registered.
                  So the official data is certainly a strong argument, but for the transfer of "evening ..".

                  Empty CHAT.

                  Once again, if it didn't come the first time: 4,6% of workers receive the minimum wage. All other 95,4% get MORE
                  Quote: Revival
                  Do not impose your fictional "official" reality on me

                  Who needs you? request
                  1. Revival
                    Revival 6 September 2020 21: 20
                    +4
                    I don’t need you at all, but you ought to be convincing in your thought to name what percentage gets the most average! And then on the steering wheel more mrot is already More than mrot, but there's little use
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 7 September 2020 09: 27
                      -3
                      Quote: Revival
                      but you ought to be convincing in your thought to name what percentage gets the highest average!

                      30% receive ABOVE average, 65% - ABOVE minimum wage up to average inclusive
                      Quote: Revival
                      And then on the steering wheel more mrot is already More than mrot, but there's little use

                      A ruble less?

                      PS I have NO goal to convince the unconvinced in principle.

                      And yes, they go to Russia from ruins to work, from Russia to Ruin-NOBODY
          2. 72jora72
            72jora72 7 September 2020 00: 13
            +4
            The average in Russia is TWO TIMES higher than the average in the Ruin
            You have Soloviev in your head .......
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 7 September 2020 09: 21
              -3
              Quote: 72jora72
              You have Soloviev in your head ...

              OFFICIAL numbers in my head are better than some sawdust, yeah ...
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    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 September 2020 12: 58
      +6
      Quote: Sailor
      and by the way, in "falling apart" Ukraine, with lower prices in stores, the average salary is higher than in the richest country in resources of Russia,
      Last summer we went on a business trip to Prague on a minibus, and went through Lithuania, Belarus and not through Poland but Ukraine. We went to Uzhgorod and stayed for a day with my classmate in Mukachevo, where I was last before the collapse. I was just surprised, especially in Uzhgorod and the adjacent private sector.
      Let them minus, but I was struck by how people live
      1. Vladimir Demyanov
        Vladimir Demyanov 5 September 2020 14: 30
        15
        Yeah, I would have believed it if last year I hadn't bought potatoes at the market for the winter at 6 rubles, and at the Ukrainian bazaar now at 8; hryvnia, the cheapest. The pension is 3000 hryvnias, and heating 4160 with a heat meter, hot water supply has not been available since 2000, and the pipes have already been dismantled.
    7. Stalllker
      Stalllker 5 September 2020 14: 42
      +1
      How many people in Turkmenistan and how many in Russia ???? And how much gas pipeline will be required for free gas throughout Russia ??? Some wrong comparisons
    8. Revival
      Revival 5 September 2020 15: 34
      0
      And they "forgot" to mention that they take a fictitious average salary, and not an objective minimum wage, and then it turns out like this:

      1) from January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in Ukraine is 4723 hryvnia ($ 199.35 or € 177.74).
      From September 1, 2020, the minimum wage is 5000 hryvnia ($ 180.76 or € 152.54).

      2) From January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in the Russian Federation is 12130 rubles. (Article 1 of the Federal Law of June 19.06.2000, 82 N 160,98-FZ). ($ 135,97 or € XNUMX).

      In the "impoverished collapsing colony" "the minimum wage is higher than ...
      1. BAI
        BAI 5 September 2020 19: 21
        +4
        It is necessary to count not in absolute terms, but how much remains after satisfying vital needs: food, clothing, housing, medicine.
        1. Revival
          Revival 5 September 2020 20: 07
          +3
          I agree, we need to blur the question as much as possible.
          Only I didn’t see such a comparison, but the average salary and gas cubes invented from the ceiling right away ...

          But how did it happen that in the "crumbling colony of the West" in general, Mrot became more than ....?
          1. Armored beast
            Armored beast 6 September 2020 14: 23
            -2
            I got it with my moss! Do you live in Moscow? Live in Ukraine in the provinces for this morat, then we'll talk. Communal, travel, food, etc. By the way, taxes are also taxed with the mortality. Even a military gathering, have you heard of this? On hands clean 3500 hryvnias goes out. For 2 weeks we can be enough.
            1. Revival
              Revival 6 September 2020 21: 18
              +2
              Live in Russia for a mote, I think it won't be easier.
              Specifically, what did you want to say, zodran?
              I did not seem to defend the adequacy of the MRO, then that it is shameful both in our country and in Ukraine, this is indisputable
      2. Gertm
        Gertm 6 September 2020 10: 56
        -3
        Yes, only in different regions of the Russian Federation the minimum wage is different. In the Kemerovo region. for example 21 471 rubles So your calculations are not correct.
        1. Revival
          Revival 6 September 2020 11: 14
          +4
          Yes, and even higher in the north, although prices kill everyone, but why take into account such trifles
          1. Gertm
            Gertm 7 September 2020 14: 17
            0
            Yes, apparently you do not care what the minimum wage is.
            1. Revival
              Revival 7 September 2020 14: 24
              +1
              Well, as it were, the situation does not change from my attitude to the concept of mrot, mrot is a mrot
      3. olegff68
        olegff68 6 September 2020 21: 06
        -2
        I read it, laughed ...
        I report that the minimum wage is mainly used to calculate fines, taxes and duties, it has nothing to do with real income, so there is little joy because there is more minimum wage in Ukraine.
        There is such a concept - AVERAGE MEDIAN WAGE, and so it is closest to reality.
        The average median salary in Russia is about 35 thousand rubles.
        The average median salary in Ukraine is a little more than 7 thousand hryvnias BEFORE TAXES AND MILITARY DUTY PAYMENT, after payment - about 6 ...
        About cheap Ukrainian products - to kindergarten, they believe in fairy tales. Ukraine is the main buyer of Russian pork and poultry; potatoes are purchased from Belarus, etc. etc.
        1. Revival
          Revival 7 September 2020 14: 23
          0
          You’re also illiterate! But, at least we can explain the laughter
    9. siemens7774
      siemens7774 6 September 2020 12: 34
      0
      SailorChF, stop drinking seawater, it has a very bad effect on the brain. Recently I came from there from a business trip. You're lying.! In stores there, prices are 12-23% higher. Only soda like Pepsi and Cola are cheaper. Salaries are two to five times less for them. And for some reason, it is the Ukrainians who go to Russia to earn money and not vice versa.
  3. snake
    snake 5 September 2020 11: 59
    20
    If we compare gas prices in the former USSR and in the world as a whole, we see that the population of Russia and Kazakhstan is in the best position. Here is the cheapest gas.

    What a beauty! Whisper!
    Gazprom invoiced the Eternal Flame.
    An outrageous case occurred in the city of Rybinsk, Yaroslavl region. There, representatives of our “main national treasure,” that is, Gazprom, billed the city authorities with 140 thousand rubles. Thus, the gas monopolist wished to reimburse his "expenses" for the Eternal Flame, which was installed at the local memorial to those who fell for the freedom and independence of our Motherland.

    https://pravda-nn.ru/delonn/gazprom-vystavil-schyot-za-vechnyj-ogon/
    Gazprom - sales of dreams.
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 5 September 2020 12: 04
      21
      With our resources, this is wildness, to put it mildly ..
      1. snake
        snake 5 September 2020 12: 08
        24
        Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
        With our resources, it's wild

        With our officials and managers, this is common ...
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 5 September 2020 14: 46
          11
          Quote: serpent
          Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
          With our resources, it's wild

          With our officials and managers, this is common ...

          Wild routine ..
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 5 September 2020 17: 37
            18
            Wild routine ..

            Ordinary.
    2. BAI
      BAI 5 September 2020 19: 22
      0
      Gas costs money. Who Should Pay? Within the framework of the current legislation, of course.
      1. snake
        snake 5 September 2020 20: 19
        +8
        Gazprom could become a sponsor of this Eternal Flame. And honorable, and public relations "national treasure". Moreover, in comparison with the income of the local managers, these are mere pennies. But the hell was swimming there! Victory is one for all, and business is business.
        1. dSK
          dSK 5 September 2020 23: 45
          +3
          So, on the anniversary of the Victory, Gazprom announced that ALL "eternal fires" will be supplied with gas free of charge?
          1. snake
            snake 6 September 2020 12: 15
            +3
            Statements are one thing. But in reality - as always.
  4. iouris
    iouris 5 September 2020 12: 04
    +7
    Some abstract citizen in Ukraine can buy half as much gas. Glad, awesomely glad, for an abstract citizen of the Russian Federation.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 5 September 2020 12: 05
    +2
    With gas, a little expensive, without it VERY EXPENSIVE!
    And we have gas at home, and YOU?
    The other day I paid bills ..... for gas 56 rubles, but this is summer, of course. Heating is expensive and when the house is symphonic in all the cracks! But for electricity, in summer, twice as much as in winter !!! It's hot here, without saltpeter and refrigerators!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 September 2020 13: 10
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      The other day I paid bills ..... for gas 56 rubles, but this is summer, of course.

      If this is for a stove, then it is not enough, less than one euro. I paid 2500 euros for heating water in a building of 100 sq. M.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 5 September 2020 13: 34
        +3
        Stove and hot water supply! But my water heating system is complex, i.e. gas. boiler + intermediate boiler with electric heating, powered by a solar power plant !!! The sunny day is long, the power of 5 kW is enough for full heating of water 150 litas.
        I did everything myself (only the elements in the panel I bought) so sho paid off in 3 years.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 September 2020 14: 39
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          But my water heating system is complex, i.e. gas. boiler + intermediate boiler with electric heating, powered by a solar power plant !!!

          Very suitable for your region, but if with your own hands, then oh! Even here, where the summer is three months, and then they make tacos, and some even put a spiral windmill on private houses.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 5 September 2020 14: 48
            +2
            I also thought about such a windmill, you don't need to get a permit for it! But just with the wind we do not ah, I live under a cliff, covered from the wind ...
            Here is the solar station! The only limitation is, batteries are expensive and short-lived! The most important thing is boilers, water heating ... I'll think about it.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 5 September 2020 15: 20
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              The most important thing is boilers, water heating ... I'll think about it.

              The very thing, the Sun you have more than enough. The Turks have this all the time.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 5 September 2020 15: 27
                +3
                Initially, when designing, I made a mistake ... a 12V energy storage system. It is not very economical, it turned out not rational, the converters are less reliable, the wiring is a finger thick !!! I will redo it under 60V.
                Now the converters will have to be redone.
                The first time I did this, we learn from mistakes.
            2. Avior
              Avior 5 September 2020 16: 07
              +5
              Why such difficulties?

              smile
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 5 September 2020 16: 39
                +3
                Jacuzzi Time Machine !!!
                I have a summer pool, but the RIVER, Erik, the lake are nearby, all summer we go swimming and catch fish in the heat. On the bike for five minutes, slowly.
                I want to plant heating on solar energy, save on gas! While there is a small electric boiler, the heater has been installed, but the power of the Soler station is not enough. It is necessary to bring the power to 7 - 8 kW ... I bought the panel blocks, I need to mount and redo them at 60V, otherwise the wiring will be like a starter in a car and the batteries will pile up a lot more. Not a practical option.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 5 September 2020 16: 46
                  +4
                  Why do you need batteries at all? You will greatly increase the cost of both the installation and operation of it, then the batteries will have to be changed.
                  If there is a storage tank for hot water, then you can heat water directly from the battery. Provide only backup from the network just in case.
                  If you live in the south, there are direct water heaters from the sun, but in the cold I'm not sure they work.
                  It is much cheaper than your circuit.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 5 September 2020 17: 00
                    +2
                    I'm just overly prudent !!! Used to work with equipment of 1 cat. power supply.
                    Village, electricity is often lost, it happened up to 3 days !!!
                    Batteries for automation, power supply smar UPS. Due to power surges, failure of expensive electronics is not uncommon ... I don't have that, everything is stabilized.
                    When upgrading, I will divide consumers into categories, it makes no sense to feed an iron, a kettle from a stabilizer!
                    Everything is so with me, I did the project myself, for the first time, mistakes ... or rather, not rational, expensive, it worked!
                    For example, in the latrine for flushing, the water is DRINKING, and this, in my case, is a 4-stage water purification from a well .... expensive.
                    Well, it was not my profile, initially, I studied everything myself.
              2. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 7 September 2020 09: 44
                0
                Quote: Avior
                Why such difficulties?

                smile

                The turkey also thought he was swimming - until the water boiled. © smile
                1. Avior
                  Avior 7 September 2020 10: 03
                  +1
                  Common tourist attraction. Usually not brought to cooking smile
      2. BAI
        BAI 5 September 2020 19: 24
        +1
        I paid 2500 euros for heating water in a building of 100 sq. M.

        Build 10 sq m. The amounts will surprise you even more.
  6. Avior
    Avior 5 September 2020 12: 12
    -1
    That the author's numbers do not agree.
    The price of gas for the population in Ukraine is 3,24 UAH (8.7 rubles) per cubic meter.
    The average salary in Ukraine is 11800 (32 rubles).
    That is, you can now buy 3650 cubic meters for an average salary in Ukraine).
    And, if the author correctly wrote that in Ukraine in 2017 it was possible to buy for an average salary of 796 cubic meters, then the difference is very noticeable.
    1. Revival
      Revival 5 September 2020 15: 30
      +1
      1) from January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in Ukraine is 4723 hryvnia ($ 199.35 or € 177.74).
      From September 1, 2020, the minimum wage is 5000 hryvnia ($ 180.76 or € 152.54).

      2) From January 1, 2020, the minimum wage in the Russian Federation is 12130 rubles. (Article 1 of the Federal Law of June 19.06.2000, 82 N 160,98-FZ). ($ 135,97 or € XNUMX).
    2. boris epstein
      boris epstein 5 September 2020 16: 18
      +2
      To the tariff of 3,24, you need to add 12,667 (fixed figure) every month for gas transit and 10,64 for gas distribution. The distribution tariff is UAH 0,84 per cubic meter. We count the total for the summer. Suppose we used 10 cubic meters. UAH 32,4 for the gas itself, +12,667 for transit from Gorgaz to the sleeping area plus 0,84 * 10 = 8,40 for distribution. Total: 32,4 + 12,667 + 8,4 = 53,467. Average salary (average temperature in the hospital, okay) -11800.
      How much gas an average consumer can buy: 11800 divided by 53,5 is approximately equal to 226 cubic meters.
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 September 2020 16: 27
        +2
        Yeah. Most of the gas is consumed in winter, but you count by summer. smile
        You can also count 1 Cuba per month, it will be even more expensive.
        Why not just add UAH 264 per year for transportation and distribution? (11800-264) /3.24 = 3560 cubes.
        Moreover, you count as 10 cubes, and divide as one.
        1. boris epstein
          boris epstein 5 September 2020 17: 51
          +2
          Double-entry bookkeeping. Verkhovna Zrada thinks so too. And the tariff changes. In autumn-winter-spring it is more expensive, in summer it is cheaper. For June-July the tariff was first 2,54, then 2,95. Now 3,24. An increase in the tariff has been announced by another 40%. So be so kind as I’ll reveal to you a secret that only builders, IT specialists, railway workers, truckers, ministers, deputies and the president and the administration work for a full month. The rest are from 5 to 10 days a month. And city and suburban transport did not work at all during the epidemic. So 11800 average earnings are full lanterns.
          1. Avior
            Avior 5 September 2020 18: 36
            0
            With the quarantine, salaries fell.
            https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/average/ukraina/
            But then they got up
            I gave the last known one.
      2. Avior
        Avior 5 September 2020 17: 00
        0
        Great, you counted!
        Calculated for 10 cubes, but divide as for the price of one!
        Don't you work in the election commission? smile
        In fact, the fixed part had to be subtracted from the salary, it does not depend on the volume, and the rest should be divided by the price of 1 cubic meter.
        (11800-22): 3.24 = 3650 cubes.
        hi
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 5 September 2020 17: 50
          18
          Don't you work in the election commission?


  7. Russ
    Russ 5 September 2020 12: 16
    -6
    ABOUT! They dug up the stumbling block ... and then there were tears in three streams ... crying
  8. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 5 September 2020 12: 34
    15
    I do not know how and where, but on Sakhalin, where gas is produced, where the largest liquefied gas plant in Russia, which is transported abroad by tankers, they decided to switch the electric power industry to gas. We bought boilers ... and the result ELECTRICITY HAS INCREASED IN PRICE! The reason is that maintenance of gas equipment is more expensive than boilers operating on coal or fuel oil. By the way, more than half of Sakhalin is not supplied with gas.
    1. Squelcher
      Squelcher 5 September 2020 12: 50
      -10 qualifying.
      So under light socialism, in the Khrushchev and Brezhnevkas on Sakhalin there were wood-burning columns (now the titans have installed them), if you want to wash, put wood-burning stoves to warm the water and wash. About the barracks that were demolished and demolished, instead of them they build new houses - a pump and amenities on the street.
      You live on Sakhalin, haven’t heard about the regional program GASIFICATION OF THE SAKHALIN REGION UNTIL 2010 AND FOR THE PERSPECTIVE UNTIL 2020? Was there such a program under the USSR?
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 5 September 2020 14: 52
        +8
        Quote: Squelcher
        You live on Sakhalin, haven’t heard about the regional program GASIFICATION OF THE SAKHALIN REGION UNTIL 2010 AND FOR THE PERSPECTIVE UNTIL 2020? Was there such a program under the USSR?

        Nobody will live there soon, and you about the programs ..
        1. Squelcher
          Squelcher 5 September 2020 15: 37
          -6
          Yes, they leave and buy apartments in Kaliningrad, St. Petersburg, Gelendzhik at home.
          Do you happen to be involved in propaganda? the graph was cut off like a decline "catastrophic" :), straight horror, but if a complete and honest picture?

          Communists like to "embellish" and then hysterics.
  9. AB
    AB 5 September 2020 13: 22
    11
    Yeah, again they show us how to live well in Russia. The author, so unobtrusively, prepares us for the next rise in price, referring to other countries. He probably feels that soon Gazprom will be given a kick from Europe, so he raises an unpopular topic. But if we argue in a simple way, according to the common people, then gas for the domestic needs of the population in Russia should be FREE. All costs due to snickering Gazprom and gas exports.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 5 September 2020 14: 56
      10
      Quote: AB
      population in Russia should be FREE. All costs due to snickering Gazprom and gas exports.

      Just like gasoline .. If we had gas with gasoline for free, well, or it would cost mere pennies, then this would lead to the development of all industries and any product would cost significantly less .. But such a task is not worth it ..
      1. Squelcher
        Squelcher 5 September 2020 23: 48
        -3
        In the USSR, gasoline cost 70 kopecks, the average salary was 120 rubles, very cheap gasoline ????, or were the communists fools?
        1. AB
          AB 6 September 2020 10: 31
          0
          70 kopecks? This is for 10 liters!
          Since 01.01.1969, A-66 gasoline cost 60 kopecks, A-72 cost 70 kopecks, A-76 cost 75 kopecks, AI-93 cost 95 kopecks, AI-98 cost 1 ruble. 5 kopecks, Aviation B-70 cost 1 rub. 20 kopecks, Fuel mixture 80 kopecks and Extra 1 rub. This is the cost of gasoline for 10 liters... Why 10? Because at the gas stations at that time there was a vacation not 1 liter, but 5 because. they were not automatic, but mechanical. Therefore, it was decided to set the cost of gasoline exactly for 10 liters.
          1. Squelcher
            Squelcher 6 September 2020 11: 11
            -5
            Said A tell B.
            As always, the communists deceived or did not keep their plan :).
            Then twice (in the 78th and 81st) prices increased exactly twice, and in this form they existed until the collapse of the USSR in December 91. That is, 10 liters of the 76th cost 3 rubles, and the 93rd - 4, excluding regional zones.
            1. AB
              AB 6 September 2020 19: 26
              0
              That is, 10 liters of the 76th cost 3 rubles, and the 93rd - 4, excluding regional belts.

              I’ll even say not B, but C. You contradict yourself. Where is 70 kopecks per liter?
              Salaries have also changed. If at 75-76 I received 130 plus a progressive, then already at 78, after the army, 160 plus a progressive, and from 82 from 200 to 270 rubles, and this is just a salary without a bonus. In the pension fund, every penny is taken into account.
              With gasoline, one must also take into account that gas stations were for State Transport and for private ones. At gas stations for the State Transport, fuel is only paid for coupons, but if you are familiar with refuellers, you can also pay for your own people. At 78, at a gas station for state cars, I filled in 1 liters of A-20 for 76 ruble. In 1979, the price of oil doubled from $ 14 to $ 31 a barrel. Naturally, gasoline has become more expensive. In 1986, the oil dropped by half. But by tradition, gasoline has risen in price again. Afghanistan ... We need money for the war.
              Such traditions continue in Russia to this day and will not be canceled. Our officials are always in poverty ... and show true concern for the population of Russia.
              1. Squelcher
                Squelcher 7 September 2020 11: 15
                -1
                Let's say in 82 you received 250r
                (you are a high-class specialist with work experience plus a happy owner of a car or motorcycle right after the army) I wonder how many happy residents of the USSR could afford their car or motorcycle.It is necessary to compare the number of cars per capita then and now, probably more in the USSR, and in unhappy modern Russia smaller?
                Gasoline in '82 the price is 76 th 3 r per 10 liters, therefore, in theory, you could afford to buy 833 liters of gasoline.
                I will not take my salary, you will not believe how much a high-class specialist can get on the labor market if you do not sit still.
                Next, 2019 is the average salary in Russia, 43000 (in my region the seller has such a salary), the price of gasoline is 45, totaling 955 liters. Plus modern cars and consume less.
                So where is gas more expensive?
                So the screaming comrades, about FREE and how it was good in the USSR, but now it's bad and everything has disappeared, to say the least.
                1. Ruswolf
                  Ruswolf 7 September 2020 13: 26
                  +1
                  I don't know where your data comes from, but in 1980, when a Muscovite bought my father, 76 bought 4 kopecks per liter.
                  Under the USSR, prices did not jump in decimal format. And in 1986, my average salary was 1000 rubles. per month.
                  1. Squelcher
                    Squelcher 7 September 2020 16: 07
                    -1
                    You have 1000tr, while others have 180 average and who received 120 and who 80
                    1980 gasoline 4 kopecks a liter, well, you need to fill it more modestly.
                    14 kopecks per liter was 76 yes, and in 1981 it was already 30 kopecks per liter. So count it.
                    1. Ruswolf
                      Ruswolf 7 September 2020 19: 06
                      -1
                      Something you get up to 100% of the twist per year. For this in the USSR, the tower was added.
                      Under the USSR, all prices were regulated and set by the state based on the 5-year plan. "Five-year-old" heard this. And another half of the population used vouchers for gasoline, which were issued at enterprises. and the peasants were good at cheating. And they used it themselves and distributed it to friends. Then almost no one was selling to anyone the principle was I helped you you will help me. So that was enough for everyone. the boys poured mopeds and motorcycles from hoses. there always a liter remained for sure (the hoses were not blown through and the workers did not run with anchors).
                      1. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 7 September 2020 23: 27
                        +1
                        It turns out that, according to you, widespread theft and fraud from socialist property at the household level flourished in the USSR? Probably from a good life?
                        The prices have doubled, and where are the plantings and executions? They raised the price and that's it, no one will dare to blather, they will also clap their hands on the desks. meeting.

                      2. Ruswolf
                        Ruswolf 10 September 2020 13: 59
                        -1
                        1. The conversation was about 76m, you provided coupons for 93
                        2. You yourself indicated the year 1980-81. Show coupons 1977-85 (Well, Yes! A little wrong ... I understand)
                        3. The price of the 1977 coupon is 1.05 for 10 ... and 1985 for 5 liters of 2 rubles (That is, the price has risen not IN ONE YEAR, as you squat on everyone's ears here, but in 8 YEARS
                        4. Well, coupons from different departments ... And in the absence of seals - proof - it is not at all possible to determine from one district (region) they are. If these were your coupons, then they would lie in place against the general background. (I bet + for the will to win. The entire Internet must have been dug up)

                        Lie dear and pull everything by the ears. Not honest.
                        We would have sat a little longer on the Internet, so at least they did not pierce with coupons. And if, before copying, they looked for years, and then read their comment again. Do not rush to put cons.
                        And about the theft - you blame it. Since the reporting was so imperfect that often gasoline remained. So I had to twist the speedometers and dump coupons. (It is no secret that auto tankers were dumped. Because under the USSR, the remaining surplus was as dangerous as the shortage.
                        I think the topic is closed.
                        You are not serious man. And in principle, you don't know the Soviet era. Just if from the Internet.
                      3. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 11 September 2020 14: 08
                        0
                        Coupons from the forum of antique dealers, did not say that these are my coupons, it is not difficult to find.
                        Prices, as I said, were raised for gasoline 2 times per 100 percent at 78 and 81 percent - no landings, everyone clapped their hands, read carefully and without hysteria.
                        Congratulations, you won, a truthful person with a salary of 1000 rubles, who buys gasoline for 4 kopecks (moreover, the price was not lower than 7.5 kopecks per liter, probably stolen).
                        I lived in Soviet times and I remember barracks with amenities on the street, and newspapers instead of toilet paper, even classmates who lived in carriages at the station (this is already the very peak of the USSR in 1987), and wood-burning water heaters in Khrushchev apartments are probably hot water a luxury for Soviet people, and teachers in the garden with a salary of 90 rubles (120 liters of gasoline), and sweet speeches that everything is better with us, but in fact they ran like the Papuans for Western clothes and equipment, and special rations and hospitals for the nomenclature, all according to George Orwell "Animal Farm "written in 1945, he looked into the water, so all the best to you.
                      4. Squelcher
                        Squelcher 12 September 2020 00: 32
                        0
                        Sealed up.
                        In 82, of course, the teacher could afford more as much as 300 liters of 76 gasoline, and as much as 225 liters of 93.
                        Awesomely cheap gasoline was in the USSR.
  • Today
    Today 5 September 2020 13: 23
    +9
    The cost of 1000 cubic meters of gas in Ukraine 313dollars, in Russia 95 However, the low, in comparison with other countries, the absolute cost of a cubic meter of gas is "compensated" by the amount that can be bought for an average salary. And here we see the true alignment: in 2019, a Russian could buy: 6652 cubic meter, Ukrainian 1018. Based on the average salary of a Ukrainian ~ 315 dollars a month, and a Russian ~ 625 dollars ??? lol 315 * 25 =7875 hryvnia.630 * 65 =40950 rubles... Average salary,
    40950 rubles
    itself is not funny ??? laughing
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 5 September 2020 13: 48
    +3
    ... let's calculate in kW, electricity and cubic meters of water. This will make the picture more complete.
  • Tiksi-3
    Tiksi-3 5 September 2020 13: 58
    +3
    in order to correctly compare prices, you need to upload photos of payment documents! everything is clear there, what is the price of the population))) ....
    1. Gato
      Gato 5 September 2020 15: 27
      +5
      If you take my word for it, then a month for a 2-room apartment. apartment in Kiev (3 people and 1 cat), I pay about UAH 3000, +/- UAH 200. - this is for the entire communal apartment, gas, electricity, water, etc. (except for the Internet and mobile communications)
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 5 September 2020 15: 36
        +7
        in Nizhny Novgorod, I pay for a kopeck piece (70 sq.m.) 8000 rubles without the Internet, includes gas, electricity, repair and maintenance, overhaul, water utility, garbage company, heat and power.
        1. Gato
          Gato 5 September 2020 15: 40
          +5
          It turns out almost the same.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 5 September 2020 16: 53
            18
            It turns out almost the same.

            Sergey, welcome! hi In Russia, in all fairness, it is more expensive. I pay for "three rubles" myself, and I know how much my friends pay in Kaluga, Tula, Ryazan, Orel and Kursk (I conducted a survey). The order of the sums one-to-one coincides with the data of Dmitry (Tiksi-3) according to N. Novgorod. ~ 8500 rubles and more, in winter, for 65 "squares", including Internet + TV, for 2-4 registered (actually living and, accordingly, consuming, including, HV, GW and electricity. For comparison, the maximum (all inclusive) payment of a relative for December 2019. "Odnushka", 45 squares, in Kiev. ~ 3700, if translated into rubles. At that time, there was a family of 4 people (now they bought "three rubles"), there were any disconnections there were NO resources (ice and lice were not covered). It turned out to be about 1,5 times cheaper by the square. Internet + TV - twice, with higher speed and the number of channels. Salaries, of course, are lower than in Moscow, but quite comparable, or higher than in Zamkadye.By the way, when looking for a homeowners' association, a janitor for a new building (standard plot) for $ 300 did not line up candidates.


            Therefore, local "urya-liars" can jump as much as they like, yell # vyvsevreti and go to the "foul-smelling slurry" in the lingering expectation that "the Ukrainians are about to freeze". Already the seventh year has been, as they, feigned half-trio, all "get rich with a thought."
            1. Brancodd
              Brancodd 6 September 2020 00: 12
              0
              According to the latest data published on the official website of NJSC Naftogaz Ukraine, the debt of utilities that receive gas from Naftogaz on the so-called preferential terms (in accordance with the regulation on the PSO) amounted to UAH 3 billion as of March 68,2. , or $ 2,68 billion.

              Read more: https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20200312/1026993040.html
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 6 September 2020 00: 41
                13
                So what is next? They will "shake" the well-trodden "stitch" through the arbitration of some small country "Gazprom", and we, the Russians, meekly pay off the bills of the "national heritage". Polpotinsk Russia is a generous soul! Only not for their own citizens, who are not involved in "rowing", of course.
          2. Brancodd
            Brancodd 5 September 2020 18: 48
            +2
            Yes, it is, given that electricity tariffs are almost the same. The operation of the NPP allows keeping a relatively low tariff for the population. But what is the peculiarity here - the power units of nuclear power plants in Ukraine are operated without the construction of replacement ones. It is impossible to renew indefinitely. 10-15 years and there will be only one block at Khmelnitskaya and one at Zaporozhye out of 14 working. According to the most conservative estimates, the USSR's investments in the nuclear power industry of Ukraine (15 units) amounted to 75 billion EUR in current prices.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 6 September 2020 00: 45
              14
              According to the most conservative estimates, the USSR's investments in the nuclear energy of Ukraine (15 units) amounted to 75 billion EUR in current prices.

              The "President" said that we didn’t do anything except galoshes. Speak! winked
  • Vladimir Demyanov
    Vladimir Demyanov 5 September 2020 14: 14
    +1
    Complete lies. I pay for gas both in Russia (my house) and in a Ukrainian apartment. And there and there - according to the counter.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 5 September 2020 14: 32
    +4
    It is probably more correct to compare the number of gasified private houses. I don’t know how in Ukraine, but in Russia it is very expensive to connect main gas. Because of this, even in capital cities, they are heated with solid fuel.
    1. Avior
      Avior 5 September 2020 15: 32
      +6
      Ukraine has been very gasified for a long time.
      Initially, after all, gas in Ukraine was produced for the European part of the USSR, then the deposits were depleted - they went to Siberia, so gasification in Ukraine is at a high level.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 5 September 2020 15: 39
        +4
        For 30 years of independence, it was possible to turn to face people, but no, they stand back to us, everyone looks to the West.
        1. dog of war
          dog of war 6 September 2020 15: 05
          +6
          Maybe this is because in the West the standard of living is better and the West does not call Ukrainians x .... lamas, horses, chubats, Sumerians, that Ukraine is an invented state, that there is no Ukrainian language? Or maybe the State Department's liver is to blame for everything? Who knows.
  • Rubi0
    Rubi0 5 September 2020 14: 44
    0
    The market is the market, in the Russian Federation the current can be a little cheaper due to transportation.
  • Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 5 September 2020 14: 56
    +4
    It is even better to vote for "We are eating Russia." With these guys the state of the country is like a sledding downhill. All the time down to the shouts "Oh, how good it is to live in Russia!"
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 5 September 2020 15: 58
    +3
    The situation has changed over the year. Now a Ukrainian citizen can already buy 2345 cubic meters of gas - almost the same as an Estonian or even a Frenchman.

    Thus, the Ukrainian prime minister really has something to calm down his fellow citizens, even if the situation will change in the future.



    It is not the inhabitants of Ukraine who have begun to earn more, but gas has fallen in price due to the warm winter, now frosts will hit and the availability of gas for the population will sharply fall again.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 September 2020 20: 25
    0
    Sochi 3 months at 1000 cubic meters in winter at 6.61 rubles per cubic meter Seichvs maximum 50 cubic meters hi
  • Edvid
    Edvid 6 September 2020 01: 03
    +1
    Quote: Squelcher
    In the USSR, gasoline cost 70 kopecks, the average salary was 120 rubles, very cheap gasoline ????, or were the communists fools?

    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////
    In 1979. I refueled my "six-VAZ 2006", gasoline A93 at 20 kopecks / liter. Eighties - 40 kopecks / liter.
  • Anyuta Glorious
    Anyuta Glorious 6 September 2020 02: 24
    +1
    I live in Tashkent. 1000 cubic meters of natural gas costs $ 40. According to the average salary, you can buy 5 cubic meters of gas per month. The trouble is that not everyone gets an average salary.
  • Vdi73
    Vdi73 6 September 2020 04: 29
    +1
    In oil and gas production in Russia, selling energy resources for export in such volumes, prices inside the country should be competitive and the last barn in Mukhoska should be gasified. What do we have? Prices are rising, although they are falling everywhere.
  • Armored beast
    Armored beast 6 September 2020 15: 50
    -1
    Quote: Avior
    They could not receive less than 4780.
    It was the minimum wage. Now they have increased it.

    So it turns out to be less, and much less. I have a rate of 2020, the rest is a surcharge to the minimum, minus taxes. Net 3700. This is the arithmetic.
  • Alexey Kurtov
    Alexey Kurtov 6 September 2020 21: 11
    -1
    Ukraine could distribute stolen gas for free.
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 7 September 2020 00: 05
    +2
    The situation has changed over the year. Now a Ukrainian citizen can already purchase 2345 cubic meters of gas
    but Russia has perceptibly moved out: now the Russian can afford only 6505 cubic meters of gas instead of 6652 last year.
    Nonsense, Soloviev tells us every day that Ukraine is about to fall apart, and the Darkest, on the contrary, claims that we live better and better every day, and incomes are growing by almost 12% per month.
  • Dedok
    Dedok 7 September 2020 08: 54
    0
    Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021

    What region do you live in? In mid-August, I changed a 50-liter cylinder at Gazpromneft-967 rubles ... Krasnoyarsk ...


    Novgorod, cylinder 25 liters - 547
  • baza1
    baza1 8 September 2020 11: 19
    0
    The author cited Ukraine as an example, but I have doubts that he understands the situation there.
    Provided the right to choose a supplier. Which one? Or do you think there are three branches of gas pipes passing?
    Reduced gas price. But now there are 2 receipts: one for gas, and the second for transporting the gas itself to the house, and another office is engaged in this. And if you add one with the other, then the price tag will be higher than before.
  • Bessik
    Bessik 10 September 2020 12: 26
    0
    Article for Peremoga Chubatykh